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Emmbrook on Wokingham (Con defence, resignation of sitting member)
LDEM: 59.7% (+22.3)
CON: 33.3% (-4.5)
UKIP: 3.9% (-11.7)
LAB: 3.0% (-6.1)0 -
Anytime. With his track record of winning elections.Sunil_Prasannan said:, Tony Blair on your side?
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1) BUYING PROPERTY AT AUCTIONSeanT said:OFF-topic, but are there any financial experts in the house? Is Mister Nabavi around, or Charles, perhaps?
It's just that (and I am genuinely not trying to sound like a smug twat, or at least no more than normal) thanks to the nice Germans and Dutch and Nordics and Frogs, I have stupid amounts of money now sitting in my various accounts, in cash. A very sizeable six figure sum.
What the F do I do with it? I've already got a fairly hefty sum in shares. I'm invested in a start-up company. My main asset is London property so it doesn't make sense to buy more property, as diversifying is key, isn't it? Plus it could crash.
So where do you put it? Land? Gold? What? Premium Bonds?
Advice welcome. And yes this is a Very Very First World Problem and I am sorry for sounding like a git, but I am genuinely clueless. And pb is often very good in these situations.
Auctions are held in England and Wales in a given area about once every two months. You can get a list of properties here: https://www.eigpropertyauctions.co.uk/ . You can get a list of auctions here: http://www.sequenceauctions.co.uk/ . Legal documents are available to the buyer 2-4 weeks before the auction: get a lawyer to read them and a chartered surveyor to do a RICS homebuyers report beforehand. The property may have problems that you cannot cope with: asbestos tiles, subsidence, Japanese knotweed, nonexistent sewage, health hazard, missing floors, the vendor not owning the property...so these steps are not optional. Arrive at the auction on time and do not leave your seat: times will be approximate and from first bid to gavel down is about 90 seconds, so do not go for a piss. If you cannot cope with the process you can see the auctioneer beforehand and he will bid on your behalf. On gavel down you have to pay the deposit there-and-then: if you do not (or if you've bid on the wrong property) you will be escorted from the premises and banned nationwide. The remainder must be paid depending on the property, but 21-28 days is about right. The property sold can be anything from mansion to a very small patch of agricultural land
2) BUYING DEVELOPMENT PROPERTY VIA A SURVEYOR
A RICS surveyor will have experience of the local area and can point you to properties for (re)development. If a property is without planning permission then an option can be purchased. The surveyor can put together a team for you or point you in the direction of somebody who can. A list can be found here: http://www.rics.org/uk/0 -
And killing Iraqis and giving their country to Islamic State.Jonathan said:
Anytime. With his track record of winning elections.Sunil_Prasannan said:, Tony Blair on your side?
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Terminators.SouthamObserver said:0 -
Sounds pretty mainsteam Smithian competitive advantage theory. Do what you're best at.NickPalmer said:Talking of charities, I'm reading Macaskill's "Doing Good Better" at the moment. Most of it is fairly obvious to anyone who has an interest in charity and a vaguely mathematical leaning (editorial summary: decide what the most effective charity is, using independent data, and give them what you can, don't be distracted by cute ideas that don't actually work).
But one of his themes is that doing good works (as I've just urged on Sean) is a bad idea for high-earners - they should maximise their income, however frivolous or controversial it may be, and give the surplus to the efficient charity, not mess about trying to do stuff themselves. For example, he says that cosmetic surgeons shouldn't switch to heart surgery - if they're good at making film stars beautiful, they should stick to that and generate funds for mosquito nets.
What do others think of this? I see the logic and like his disciplined focus, but think it underestimates the willingness of people to give more if they have an interest and overestimates the dedicated will to give away extra income - I suspect the cosmetic surgeon who redoubles his efforts on this basis will olten end up buying another yacht.
I want to build BNC a new cricket pavilion eventually, rather than donating them 20 quid a month. 20 quid a month could turn into 60 quid a month buying books....compound that and we're alot closer to a new pavilion.0 -
Load of crap. You're better than that.Sunil_Prasannan said:
And killing Iraqis and giving their country to Islamic State.Jonathan said:
Anytime. With his track record of winning elections.Sunil_Prasannan said:, Tony Blair on your side?
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PS You owe the NHS £350M a week.Sunil_Prasannan said:
And killing Iraqis and giving their country to Islamic State.Jonathan said:
Anytime. With his track record of winning elections.Sunil_Prasannan said:, Tony Blair on your side?
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Past performance is no indicator of future success.Jonathan said:
Anytime. With his track record of winning elections.Sunil_Prasannan said:, Tony Blair on your side?
Especially when you're hated by EVERY SECTOR OF SOCIETY.
I just don't understand how 'no right turners' don't get this. He is HATED. By, on aggregate, EVERYONE0 -
You won't let us leave yet.Jonathan said:
PS You owe the NHS £350M a week.Sunil_Prasannan said:
And killing Iraqis and giving their country to Islamic State.Jonathan said:
Anytime. With his track record of winning elections.Sunil_Prasannan said:, Tony Blair on your side?
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But he is right though isn't heJonathan said:
Load of crap. You're better than that.Sunil_Prasannan said:
And killing Iraqis and giving their country to Islamic State.Jonathan said:
Anytime. With his track record of winning elections.Sunil_Prasannan said:, Tony Blair on your side?
What sort of sick joke was making that man Middle East peace envoy?0 -
All over this land there are white men in sandals pointing at dog poo and potholes.Sunil_Prasannan said:
"Go back to your parish councils and prepare for refuse collection!"MarkSenior said:Lib Dems gain Wokingham Emmbrook from Conservatives on a very big swing
Lib Dem 1575
Con 879
UKIP 104
Lab 790 -
Blair is hated.
He is hated by the right and is hated by the far left. Why? Because he defeated them and they will never forgive him.
The reason they complain so much today is that they still fear him. There is that chance he might win.0 -
That's a great deal of words to say "I don't know what's going to happen".Richard_Nabavi said:
It means, as the article makes clear, an immediate shock (tick, just look at sterling, which fell exactly as predicted), and the period thereafter, which as the article makes clear is initially two years, but some of it is up to 2030.another_richard said:
I suggest you read the actual Telegraph article that Cameron and Osborne wrote:Richard_Nabavi said:
Yes they did. I don't know why you keep posting this nonsense. I suggest you download and read the original Treasury document.another_richard said:Yet Cameron and Osborne DIDN'T say 'over two years' did they.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/22/david-cameron-and-george-osborne-brexit-would-put-our-economy-in/
It says ' WEEKS AND MONTHS AFTER A VOTE TO LEAVE ON JUNE 23 '.
Please explain what timescale ' WEEKS AND MONTHS AFTER A VOTE TO LEAVE ON JUNE 23 ' is supposed to mean ?
Of course, at the time no-one expected the delay to invoking Article 50 to be as long as it has been, so the timescales are extended; after all, we haven't even started the process yet. It's also true that most economists and other observers (including me) expected the mere fact of the uncertainty produced by the referendum result to have a bigger effect than it did. The reasons for that are twofold, and quite interesting. The first reason is that, contrary to expectations, consumers kept on spending, rather than drawing in their horns straight away. That's a bit of a surprise, but not a big deal really; consumer spending is very fickle, and the signs are that the expected slowdown is now beginning. The second reason is that business investment didn't slow down as much as expected. But that's now happening.
Overall, the effect is slower than expected. But we're very, very far from being able to say the forecasts were wrong overall. You need to wait until the end of 2019 to get the first preliminary data on that.
If you tell me what the deal with our EU friends is going to be, I could make an updated stab at guessing how the economy will react. But you can't, for the very good reason that our EU friends haven't got a clue themselves.
Me too - I certainly didn't expect the stock markets to rise to new record levels. Not that I complaining though.
But that's quite a contrast to how specific the predictions Cameron and Osborne gave in their Telegraph article were.
And that's the problem these days when you start making precise predictions for your own purposes - you'll get them quoted back at you.
Anyway, its time to call it a night. So a good weekend to you RN.
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Crazed? Possibly. War criminal? Definitely not. PBers use of words is more poestic than precise. Blair did not order war crimes and is not a war criminal, and the Iraq war was not illegal. I appreciate his actions were disliked, but that isn't the same thing.Sunil_Prasannan said:How does it feel to have a crazed war criminal, I mean, Tony Blair on your side?
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No, bring him on. I could almost certainly defeat him myself in a parly election. It would be very very very simple. Iraq, iraq, iraq.Jonathan said:Blair is hated.
He is hated by the right and is hated by the far left. Why? Because he defeated them and they will never forgive him.
The reason they complain so much today is that they still fear him. There is that chance he might win.
Yet foolish 'no right turners' love him.0 -
I was under the impression that SeanT already did a lot of charitable work...helping the poor young deluded female Corbynista's of London...taking them into his humble abode, wining and dining them, trips to sunnier climes. etc etc etc.NickPalmer said:
What about a specific charitable project, to diversify your life as well as your assets? Something you know about - perhaps a Sean Thomas Writing Fellowship - you'd invite people to send you a sample chapter of a thriller, and give the best 10 10 hours each of advice. Or offer these people https://www.addictionhelper.com/rehab/charity-rehab/ a series of unpaid talks for recovering addicts on how to make it stick and what worked for you?SeanT said:
I am giving more to charity. Rich liberal guilt beckons. It's probably inevitable.0 -
Any evidence of your electoral success to back up your boast?Mortimer said:
No, bring him on. I could almost certainly defeat him myself in a parly election. It would be very very very simple. Iraq, iraq, iraq.Jonathan said:Blair is hated.
He is hated by the right and is hated by the far left. Why? Because he defeated them and they will never forgive him.
The reason they complain so much today is that they still fear him. There is that chance he might win.
Yet foolish 'no right turners' love him.0 -
Like very muchnunu said:
Buy a house next to J.K Rowling and build a big ugly block of council flats.SandyRentool said:
Buy some land, plant some trees. A legacy for your daughters and future generations.SeanT said:OFF-topic, but are there any financial experts in the house? Is Mister Nabavi around, or Charles, perhaps?
It's just that (and I am genuinely not trying to sound like a smug twat, or at least no more than normal) thanks to the nice Germans and Dutch and Nordics and Frogs, I have stupid amounts of money now sitting in my various accounts, in cash. A very sizeable six figure sum.
What the F do I do with it? I've already got a fairly hefty sum in shares. I'm invested in a start-up company. My main asset is London property so it doesn't make sense to buy more property, as diversifying is key, isn't it? Plus it could crash.
So where do you put it? Land? Gold? What? Premium Bonds?
Advice welcome. And yes this is a Very Very First World Problem and I am sorry for sounding like a git, but I am genuinely clueless. And pb is often very good in these situations.0 -
My unfavourables are much, much lower.Jonathan said:
Any evidence of your electoral success to back up you boast?Mortimer said:
No, bring him on. I could almost certainly defeat him myself in a parly election. It would be very very very simple. Iraq, iraq, iraq.Jonathan said:Blair is hated.
He is hated by the right and is hated by the far left. Why? Because he defeated them and they will never forgive him.
The reason they complain so much today is that they still fear him. There is that chance he might win.
Yet foolish 'no right turners' love him.0 -
Evidence? Please share the elections you have won.Mortimer said:
My unfavourables are much, much lower.Jonathan said:
Any evidence of your electoral success to back up you boast?Mortimer said:
No, bring him on. I could almost certainly defeat him myself in a parly election. It would be very very very simple. Iraq, iraq, iraq.Jonathan said:Blair is hated.
He is hated by the right and is hated by the far left. Why? Because he defeated them and they will never forgive him.
The reason they complain so much today is that they still fear him. There is that chance he might win.
Yet foolish 'no right turners' love him.0 -
I am not Tony Blair. That is all that is required to beat him in a electoral setting.Jonathan said:
Evidence? Please share the elections you have won.Mortimer said:
My unfavourables are much, much lower.Jonathan said:
Any evidence of your electoral success to back up you boast?Mortimer said:
No, bring him on. I could almost certainly defeat him myself in a parly election. It would be very very very simple. Iraq, iraq, iraq.Jonathan said:Blair is hated.
He is hated by the right and is hated by the far left. Why? Because he defeated them and they will never forgive him.
The reason they complain so much today is that they still fear him. There is that chance he might win.
Yet foolish 'no right turners' love him.
Seriously Jonathan - look at how unpopular he is.
He would not be nominated as a Tory, LD or, least of all Labour.
He wouldn't even be nominated as part of the Bus pass Elvis party.
He'd be an independent.
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Labour were about 10% ahead in the opinion polls at the time of the previous local election in 2013 for the seats being contested this year. They're now about 15% behind, so they could be heading for very heavy losses. They only hold two county councils at present, in Derbyshire and Nottinghamshire. (Excludes Durham which is a unitary authority).0
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Interesting comparison to 2016.
I've just had dinner with 10 friends/colleagues/wives - the same people and resturant as last year - the book fair calendar is pretty predictable.
Last year there was heated discussion of the referendum and various positions.
Tonight - nothing. Blair was scoffed at before we even entered the restaurant.
Remainers who think they are biding their time are stuck in June 22nd Groundhog day with Meeks.
Get with the programme - we're leaving.
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So no evidence. Nothing. Zip. Idle empty boasts. Not even paper thin. Have you even stood?Mortimer said:
I am not Tony Blair. That is all that is required to beat him in a electoral setting.Jonathan said:
Evidence? Please share the elections you have won.Mortimer said:
My unfavourables are much, much lower.Jonathan said:
Any evidence of your electoral success to back up you boast?Mortimer said:
No, bring him on. I could almost certainly defeat him myself in a parly election. It would be very very very simple. Iraq, iraq, iraq.Jonathan said:Blair is hated.
He is hated by the right and is hated by the far left. Why? Because he defeated them and they will never forgive him.
The reason they complain so much today is that they still fear him. There is that chance he might win.
Yet foolish 'no right turners' love him.
Seriously Jonathan - look at how unpopular he is.
He would not be nominated as a Tory, LD or, least of all Labour.
He wouldn't even be nominated as part of the Bus pass Elvis party.
He'd be an independent.
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He is a busted flush. You seem to be the only person, apart from his old acolytes (perhaps you are one of them - and I claim my five pounds), that don't accept this.Jonathan said:
So no evidence. Nothing. Zip. Idle empty boasts. Not even paper thin. Have you even stood?Mortimer said:
I am not Tony Blair. That is all that is required to beat him in a electoral setting.Jonathan said:
Evidence? Please share the elections you have won.Mortimer said:
My unfavourables are much, much lower.Jonathan said:
Any evidence of your electoral success to back up you boast?Mortimer said:
No, bring him on. I could almost certainly defeat him myself in a parly election. It would be very very very simple. Iraq, iraq, iraq.Jonathan said:Blair is hated.
He is hated by the right and is hated by the far left. Why? Because he defeated them and they will never forgive him.
The reason they complain so much today is that they still fear him. There is that chance he might win.
Yet foolish 'no right turners' love him.
Seriously Jonathan - look at how unpopular he is.
He would not be nominated as a Tory, LD or, least of all Labour.
He wouldn't even be nominated as part of the Bus pass Elvis party.
He'd be an independent.
He is electoral POISON. How can you not see this?0 -
http://www.politics.co.uk/blogs/2017/02/17/week-in-review-the-second-coming-oif-tony-bl-air
"Blair just became the most important man in politics again."0 -
No second UN resolution?viewcode said:
Crazed? Possibly. War criminal? Definitely not. PBers use of words is more poestic than precise. Blair did not order war crimes and is not a war criminal, and the Iraq war was not illegal. I appreciate his actions were disliked, but that isn't the same thing.Sunil_Prasannan said:How does it feel to have a crazed war criminal, I mean, Tony Blair on your side?
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LOL.williamglenn said:http://www.politics.co.uk/blogs/2017/02/17/week-in-review-the-second-coming-oif-tony-bl-air
"Blair just became the most important man in politics again."
Reminds me of the old 'He's not even the best drummer in the band' quip.
Edit: Ian Dunt. What a bloody surprise.0 -
There's a very simple reason why consumer spending didn't immediately crash. Consumers are voters ... voters are consumers.Richard_Nabavi said:It means, as the article makes clear, an immediate shock (tick, just look at sterling, which fell exactly as predicted), and the period thereafter, which as the article makes clear is initially two years, but some of it is up to 2030.
Of course, at the time no-one expected the delay to invoking Article 50 to be as long as it has been, so the timescales are extended; after all, we haven't even started the process yet. It's also true that most economists and other observers (including me) expected the mere fact of the uncertainty produced by the referendum result to have a bigger effect than it did. The reasons for that are twofold, and quite interesting. The first reason is that, contrary to expectations, consumers kept on spending, rather than drawing in their horns straight away. That's a bit of a surprise, but not a big deal really; consumer spending is very fickle, and the signs are that the expected slowdown is now beginning. The second reason is that business investment didn't slow down as much as expected. But that's now happening.
Overall, the effect is slower than expected. But we're very, very far from being able to say the forecasts were wrong overall. You need to wait until the end of 2019 to get the first preliminary data on that.
If you tell me what the deal with our EU friends is going to be, I could make an updated stab at guessing how the economy will react. But you can't, for the very good reason that our EU friends haven't got a clue themselves.
If the voters vote to Leave then it is because they think that Leaving is the best option, so why would they immediately stop consuming?0 -
Sounds like a dull evening. My condolences.Mortimer said:Interesting comparison to 2016.
I've just had dinner with 10 friends/colleagues/wives - the same people and resturant as last year - the book fair calendar is pretty predictable.
Last year there was heated discussion of the referendum and various positions.
Tonight - nothing. Blair was scoffed at before we even entered the restaurant.
Remainers who think they are biding their time are stuck in June 22nd Groundhog day with Meeks.
Get with the programme - we're leaving.0 -
The EU owes us £4.5 billion a year NET.Jonathan said:
PS You owe the NHS £350M a week.Sunil_Prasannan said:
And killing Iraqis and giving their country to Islamic State.Jonathan said:
Anytime. With his track record of winning elections.Sunil_Prasannan said:, Tony Blair on your side?
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Far better than the chat on here. For a start, no-one was deluded enough to think that 'na na, no right turn, Blair is great' was a political position likely to be more successful than simply 'Not the toxic Tony Blair'.Jonathan said:
Sounds like a dull evening. My condolences.Mortimer said:Interesting comparison to 2016.
I've just had dinner with 10 friends/colleagues/wives - the same people and resturant as last year - the book fair calendar is pretty predictable.
Last year there was heated discussion of the referendum and various positions.
Tonight - nothing. Blair was scoffed at before we even entered the restaurant.
Remainers who think they are biding their time are stuck in June 22nd Groundhog day with Meeks.
Get with the programme - we're leaving.
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Search your feelings, Jonathan. You will know it to be true.Jonathan said:
Load of crap. You're better than that.Sunil_Prasannan said:
And killing Iraqis and giving their country to Islamic State.Jonathan said:
Anytime. With his track record of winning elections.Sunil_Prasannan said:, Tony Blair on your side?
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I know now why you REMOAN, but it is something that I cannot do.viewcode said:
Terminators.SouthamObserver said:0 -
You said you would beat the most successful election winner since 1945. You must be awesome. No. Beyond awesome. And yet you keep your success quiet. Why?Mortimer said:
He is a busted flush. You seem to be the only person, apart from his old acolytes (perhaps you are one of them - and I claim my five pounds), that don't accept this.Jonathan said:
So no evidence. Nothing. Zip. Idle empty boasts. Not even paper thin. Have you even stood?Mortimer said:
I am not Tony Blair. That is all that is required to beat him in a electoral setting.Jonathan said:
Evidence? Please share the elections you have won.Mortimer said:
My unfavourables are much, much lower.Jonathan said:
Any evidence of your electoral success to back up you boast?Mortimer said:
No, bring him on. I could almost certainly defeat him myself in a parly election. It would be very very very simple. Iraq, iraq, iraq.Jonathan said:Blair is hated.
He is hated by the right and is hated by the far left. Why? Because he defeated them and they will never forgive him.
The reason they complain so much today is that they still fear him. There is that chance he might win.
Yet foolish 'no right turners' love him.
Seriously Jonathan - look at how unpopular he is.
He would not be nominated as a Tory, LD or, least of all Labour.
He wouldn't even be nominated as part of the Bus pass Elvis party.
He'd be an independent.
He is electoral POISON. How can you not see this?0 -
Even Trump can win elections.Jonathan said:
You said you would beat the most successful election winner since 1945. You must be awesome. No. Beyond awesome. And yet you keep your success quiet. Why?Mortimer said:
He is a busted flush. You seem to be the only person, apart from his old acolytes (perhaps you are one of them - and I claim my five pounds), that don't accept this.Jonathan said:
So no evidence. Nothing. Zip. Idle empty boasts. Not even paper thin. Have you even stood?Mortimer said:
I am not Tony Blair. That is all that is required to beat him in a electoral setting.Jonathan said:
Evidence? Please share the elections you have won.Mortimer said:
My unfavourables are much, much lower.Jonathan said:
Any evidence of your electoral success to back up you boast?Mortimer said:
No, bring him on. I could almost certainly defeat him myself in a parly election. It would be very very very simple. Iraq, iraq, iraq.Jonathan said:Blair is hated.
He is hated by the right and is hated by the far left. Why? Because he defeated them and they will never forgive him.
The reason they complain so much today is that they still fear him. There is that chance he might win.
Yet foolish 'no right turners' love him.
Seriously Jonathan - look at how unpopular he is.
He would not be nominated as a Tory, LD or, least of all Labour.
He wouldn't even be nominated as part of the Bus pass Elvis party.
He'd be an independent.
He is electoral POISON. How can you not see this?0 -
You're not really engaging with the issue here. Why would anyone vote for electoral poison like Blair?Jonathan said:
You said you would beat the most successful election winner since 1945. You must be awesome. No. Beyond awesome. And yet you keep your success quiet. Why?Mortimer said:
He is a busted flush. You seem to be the only person, apart from his old acolytes (perhaps you are one of them - and I claim my five pounds), that don't accept this.Jonathan said:
So no evidence. Nothing. Zip. Idle empty boasts. Not even paper thin. Have you even stood?Mortimer said:
I am not Tony Blair. That is all that is required to beat him in a electoral setting.Jonathan said:
Evidence? Please share the elections you have won.Mortimer said:
My unfavourables are much, much lower.Jonathan said:
Any evidence of your electoral success to back up you boast?Mortimer said:
No, bring him on. I could almost certainly defeat him myself in a parly election. It would be very very very simple. Iraq, iraq, iraq.Jonathan said:Blair is hated.
He is hated by the right and is hated by the far left. Why? Because he defeated them and they will never forgive him.
The reason they complain so much today is that they still fear him. There is that chance he might win.
Yet foolish 'no right turners' love him.
Seriously Jonathan - look at how unpopular he is.
He would not be nominated as a Tory, LD or, least of all Labour.
He wouldn't even be nominated as part of the Bus pass Elvis party.
He'd be an independent.
He is electoral POISON. How can you not see this?0 -
Someone who was once a successful election winner.Jonathan said:
You said you would beat the most successful election winner since 1945. You must be awesome. No. Beyond awesome. And yet you keep your success quiet. Why?Mortimer said:
He is a busted flush. You seem to be the only person, apart from his old acolytes (perhaps you are one of them - and I claim my five pounds), that don't accept this.Jonathan said:
So no evidence. Nothing. Zip. Idle empty boasts. Not even paper thin. Have you even stood?Mortimer said:
I am not Tony Blair. That is all that is required to beat him in a electoral setting.Jonathan said:
Evidence? Please share the elections you have won.Mortimer said:
My unfavourables are much, much lower.Jonathan said:
Any evidence of your electoral success to back up you boast?Mortimer said:
No, bring him on. I could almost certainly defeat him myself in a parly election. It would be very very very simple. Iraq, iraq, iraq.Jonathan said:Blair is hated.
He is hated by the right and is hated by the far left. Why? Because he defeated them and they will never forgive him.
The reason they complain so much today is that they still fear him. There is that chance he might win.
Yet foolish 'no right turners' love him.
Seriously Jonathan - look at how unpopular he is.
He would not be nominated as a Tory, LD or, least of all Labour.
He wouldn't even be nominated as part of the Bus pass Elvis party.
He'd be an independent.
He is electoral POISON. How can you not see this?
What was the approval ratings when Bambi was winning elections and what is it now?0 -
Trump has nothing on Mortimer.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Even Trump can win elections.Jonathan said:
You said you would beat the most successful election winner since 1945. You must be awesome. No. Beyond awesome. And yet you keep your success quiet. Why?Mortimer said:
He is a busted flush. You seem to be the only person, apart from his old acolytes (perhaps you are one of them - and I claim my five pounds), that don't accept this.Jonathan said:
So no evidence. Nothing. Zip. Idle empty boasts. Not even paper thin. Have you even stood?Mortimer said:
I am not Tony Blair. That is all that is required to beat him in a electoral setting.Jonathan said:
Evidence? Please share the elections you have won.Mortimer said:
My unfavourables are much, much lower.Jonathan said:
Any evidence of your electoral success to back up you boast?Mortimer said:
No, bring him on. I could almost certainly defeat him myself in a parly election. It would be very very very simple. Iraq, iraq, iraq.Jonathan said:Blair is hated.
He is hated by the right and is hated by the far left. Why? Because he defeated them and they will never forgive him.
The reason they complain so much today is that they still fear him. There is that chance he might win.
Yet foolish 'no right turners' love him.
Seriously Jonathan - look at how unpopular he is.
He would not be nominated as a Tory, LD or, least of all Labour.
He wouldn't even be nominated as part of the Bus pass Elvis party.
He'd be an independent.
He is electoral POISON. How can you not see this?0 -
Hasta la Leaver, baby...Sunil_Prasannan said:
I know now why you REMOAN, but it is something that I cannot do.viewcode said:
Terminators.SouthamObserver said:
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You said you would beat him and yet you offer no credentials. Most odd.Mortimer said:
You're not really engaging with the issue here. Why would anyone vote for electoral poison like Blair?Jonathan said:
You said you would beat the most successful election winner since 1945. You must be awesome. No. Beyond awesome. And yet you keep your success quiet. Why?Mortimer said:
He is a busted flush. You seem to be the only person, apart from his old acolytes (perhaps you are one of them - and I claim my five pounds), that don't accept this.Jonathan said:
So no evidence. Nothing. Zip. Idle empty boasts. Not even paper thin. Have you even stood?Mortimer said:
I am not Tony Blair. That is all that is required to beat him in a electoral setting.Jonathan said:
Evidence? Please share the elections you have won.Mortimer said:
My unfavourables are much, much lower.Jonathan said:
Any evidence of your electoral success to back up you boast?Mortimer said:
No, bring him on. I could almost certainly defeat him myself in a parly election. It would be very very very simple. Iraq, iraq, iraq.Jonathan said:Blair is hated.
He is hated by the right and is hated by the far left. Why? Because he defeated them and they will never forgive him.
The reason they complain so much today is that they still fear him. There is that chance he might win.
Yet foolish 'no right turners' love him.
Seriously Jonathan - look at how unpopular he is.
He would not be nominated as a Tory, LD or, least of all Labour.
He wouldn't even be nominated as part of the Bus pass Elvis party.
He'd be an independent.
He is electoral POISON. How can you not see this?0 -
I offer the only credential I would need - yet you still think he is a dreamboat.Jonathan said:
You said you would beat him and yet you offer no credentials. Most odd.Mortimer said:
You're not really engaging with the issue here. Why would anyone vote for electoral poison like Blair?Jonathan said:
You said you would beat the most successful election winner since 1945. You must be awesome. No. Beyond awesome. And yet you keep your success quiet. Why?Mortimer said:
He is a busted flush. You seem to be the only person, apart from his old acolytes (perhaps you are one of them - and I claim my five pounds), that don't accept this.Jonathan said:
So no evidence. Nothing. Zip. Idle empty boasts. Not even paper thin. Have you even stood?Mortimer said:
I am not Tony Blair. That is all that is required to beat him in a electoral setting.Jonathan said:
Evidence? Please share the elections you have won.Mortimer said:
My unfavourables are much, much lower.Jonathan said:
Any evidence of your electoral success to back up you boast?Mortimer said:
No, bring him on. I could almost certainly defeat him myself in a parly election. It would be very very very simple. Iraq, iraq, iraq.Jonathan said:Blair is hated.
He is hated by the right and is hated by the far left. Why? Because he defeated them and they will never forgive him.
The reason they complain so much today is that they still fear him. There is that chance he might win.
Yet foolish 'no right turners' love him.
Seriously Jonathan - look at how unpopular he is.
He would not be nominated as a Tory, LD or, least of all Labour.
He wouldn't even be nominated as part of the Bus pass Elvis party.
He'd be an independent.
He is electoral POISON. How can you not see this?
NO ONE LIKES HIM. Apart from you, it would seem.0 -
I bet you used to laugh at Tories who still thought Maggie was influential in 2000Jonathan said:
You said you would beat the most successful election winner since 1945. You must be awesome. No. Beyond awesome. And yet you keep your success quiet. Why?Mortimer said:
He is a busted flush. You seem to be the only person, apart from his old acolytes (perhaps you are one of them - and I claim my five pounds), that don't accept this.Jonathan said:
So no evidence. Nothing. Zip. Idle empty boasts. Not even paper thin. Have you even stood?Mortimer said:
I am not Tony Blair. That is all that is required to beat him in a electoral setting.Jonathan said:
Evidence? Please share the elections you have won.Mortimer said:
My unfavourables are much, much lower.Jonathan said:
Any evidence of your electoral success to back up you boast?Mortimer said:
No, bring him on. I could almost certainly defeat him myself in a parly election. It would be very very very simple. Iraq, iraq, iraq.Jonathan said:Blair is hated.
He is hated by the right and is hated by the far left. Why? Because he defeated them and they will never forgive him.
The reason they complain so much today is that they still fear him. There is that chance he might win.
Yet foolish 'no right turners' love him.
Seriously Jonathan - look at how unpopular he is.
He would not be nominated as a Tory, LD or, least of all Labour.
He wouldn't even be nominated as part of the Bus pass Elvis party.
He'd be an independent.
He is electoral POISON. How can you not see this?0 -
Blair is the second most unpopular PM of the last 40 odd years. He is second only to Brown in his net unpopularity and in his overall negative popularity ratings.Jonathan said:Blair is hated.
He is hated by the right and is hated by the far left. Why? Because he defeated them and they will never forgive him.
The reason they complain so much today is that they still fear him. There is that chance he might win.
https://yougov.co.uk/news/2016/08/10/cameron-best-prime-minister-since-thatcher/0 -
Nope. Not even a school election then. I'm not convinced you could beat Blair.Mortimer said:
I offer the only credential I would need - yet you still think he is a dreamboat.Jonathan said:
You said you would beat him and yet you offer no credentials. Most odd.Mortimer said:
You're not really engaging with the issue here. Why would anyone vote for electoral poison like Blair?Jonathan said:
You said you would beat the most successful election winner since 1945. You must be awesome. No. Beyond awesome. And yet you keep your success quiet. Why?Mortimer said:
He is a busted flush. You seem to be the only person, apart from his old acolytes (perhaps you are one of them - and I claim my five pounds), that don't accept this.Jonathan said:
So no evidence. Nothing. Zip. Idle empty boasts. Not even paper thin. Have you even stood?Mortimer said:
I am not Tony Blair. That is all that is required to beat him in a electoral setting.Jonathan said:
Evidence? Please share the elections you have won.Mortimer said:
My unfavourables are much, much lower.Jonathan said:
Any evidence of your electoral success to back up you boast?Mortimer said:
No, bring him on. I could almost certainly defeat him myself in a parly election. It would be very very very simple. Iraq, iraq, iraq.Jonathan said:Blair is hated.
He is hated by the right and is hated by the far left. Why? Because he defeated them and they will never forgive him.
The reason they complain so much today is that they still fear him. There is that chance he might win.
Yet foolish 'no right turners' love him.
Seriously Jonathan - look at how unpopular he is.
He would not be nominated as a Tory, LD or, least of all Labour.
He wouldn't even be nominated as part of the Bus pass Elvis party.
He'd be an independent.
He is electoral POISON. How can you not see this?
NO ONE LIKES HIM. Apart from you, it would seem.0 -
True. Larger donation in return for appropriate very-charitable activity :-)FrancisUrquhart said:
I was under the impression that SeanT already did a lot of charitable work...helping the poor young deluded female Corbynista's of London...taking them into his humble abode, wining and dining them, trips to sunnier climes. etc etc etc.NickPalmer said:
What about a specific charitable project, to diversify your life as well as your assets? Something you know about - perhaps a Sean Thomas Writing Fellowship - you'd invite people to send you a sample chapter of a thriller, and give the best 10 10 hours each of advice. Or offer these people https://www.addictionhelper.com/rehab/charity-rehab/ a series of unpaid talks for recovering addicts on how to make it stick and what worked for you?SeanT said:
I am giving more to charity. Rich liberal guilt beckons. It's probably inevitable.
More seriously, what about donatnig or loaning capital to a local or relevant Credit Union.
I am currently planning a donation or long term loan of capital to a local Credit Union after a successful project.
The point is that 10k to a credit union enables them to make loans of up to 40x that amount (depending on the size of the CU) and can have a significant impact on the capacity of the Union.
There are different methods - a donation is possible, or a long term loan or share investment. You may or may not get as small return depending on what you agree.
CUs tend to have limited capital - our County Wide CU only has a couple of million for example - so £100k say would be a major boost.
I like that it encourages people to stand on their own feet, learn good money habits, and have the setup in place that they can go to a reputable relatively low lender rather than a doorstep lender when financial upset occurs.0 -
Actually what is remarkable about Blair is he ceased to have credibility, influence or electoral pull by 2010.isam said:
I bet you used to laugh at Tories who still thought Maggie was influential in 2000Jonathan said:
You said you would beat the most successful election winner since 1945. You must be awesome. No. Beyond awesome. And yet you keep your success quiet. Why?Mortimer said:
He is a busted flush. You seem to be the only person, apart from his old acolytes (perhaps you are one of them - and I claim my five pounds), that don't accept this.Jonathan said:
So no evidence. Nothing. Zip. Idle empty boasts. Not even paper thin. Have you even stood?Mortimer said:
I am not Tony Blair. That is all that is required to beat him in a electoral setting.Jonathan said:
Evidence? Please share the elections you have won.Mortimer said:
My unfavourables are much, much lower.Jonathan said:
Any evidence of your electoral success to back up you boast?Mortimer said:
No, bring him on. I could almost certainly defeat him myself in a parly election. It would be very very very simple. Iraq, iraq, iraq.Jonathan said:Blair is hated.
He is hated by the right and is hated by the far left. Why? Because he defeated them and they will never forgive him.
The reason they complain so much today is that they still fear him. There is that chance he might win.
Yet foolish 'no right turners' love him.
Seriously Jonathan - look at how unpopular he is.
He would not be nominated as a Tory, LD or, least of all Labour.
He wouldn't even be nominated as part of the Bus pass Elvis party.
He'd be an independent.
He is electoral POISON. How can you not see this?
His stock fell so far, so fast.0 -
And yet they are compelled to talk about him.Mortimer said:
Actually what is remarkable about Blair is he ceased to have credibility, influence or electoral pull by 2010.isam said:
I bet you used to laugh at Tories who still thought Maggie was influential in 2000Jonathan said:
You said you would beat the most successful election winner since 1945. You must be awesome. No. Beyond awesome. And yet you keep your success quiet. Why?Mortimer said:
He is a busted flush. You seem to be the only person, apart from his old acolytes (perhaps you are one of them - and I claim my five pounds), that don't accept this.Jonathan said:
So no evidence. Nothing. Zip. Idle empty boasts. Not even paper thin. Have you even stood?Mortimer said:
I am not Tony Blair. That is all that is required to beat him in a electoral setting.Jonathan said:
Evidence? Please share the elections you have won.Mortimer said:
My unfavourables are much, much lower.Jonathan said:
Any evidence of your electoral success to back up you boast?Mortimer said:
No, bring him on. I could almost certainly defeat him myself in a parly election. It would be very very very simple. Iraq, iraq, iraq.Jonathan said:Blair is hated.
He is hated by the right and is hated by the far left. Why? Because he defeated them and they will never forgive him.
The reason they complain so much today is that they still fear him. There is that chance he might win.
Yet foolish 'no right turners' love him.
Seriously Jonathan - look at how unpopular he is.
He would not be nominated as a Tory, LD or, least of all Labour.
He wouldn't even be nominated as part of the Bus pass Elvis party.
He'd be an independent.
He is electoral POISON. How can you not see this?
His stock fell so far, so fast.0 -
I'd stop digging that hole, Jonathan. You will out compete the Labour leadership.Jonathan said:
So no evidence. Nothing. Zip. Idle empty boasts. Not even paper thin. Have you even stood?Mortimer said:
I am not Tony Blair. That is all that is required to beat him in a electoral setting.Jonathan said:
Evidence? Please share the elections you have won.Mortimer said:
My unfavourables are much, much lower.Jonathan said:
Any evidence of your electoral success to back up you boast?Mortimer said:
No, bring him on. I could almost certainly defeat him myself in a parly election. It would be very very very simple. Iraq, iraq, iraq.Jonathan said:Blair is hated.
He is hated by the right and is hated by the far left. Why? Because he defeated them and they will never forgive him.
The reason they complain so much today is that they still fear him. There is that chance he might win.
Yet foolish 'no right turners' love him.
Seriously Jonathan - look at how unpopular he is.
He would not be nominated as a Tory, LD or, least of all Labour.
He wouldn't even be nominated as part of the Bus pass Elvis party.
He'd be an independent.0 -
The hilarious thing is Blair was the right turn for the Labour party. He hijacked a movement for his own personal show. You'd think anyone with any respect for a no right turn avatar would detest the man.Jonathan said:
Nope. Not even a school election then. I'm not convinced you could beat Blair.Mortimer said:
I offer the only credential I would need - yet you still think he is a dreamboat.Jonathan said:
You said you would beat him and yet you offer no credentials. Most odd.Mortimer said:
You're not really engaging with the issue here. Why would anyone vote for electoral poison like Blair?Jonathan said:
You said you would beat the most successful election winner since 1945. You must be awesome. No. Beyond awesome. And yet you keep your success quiet. Why?Mortimer said:
He is a busted flush. You seem to be the only person, apart from his old acolytes (perhaps you are one of them - and I claim my five pounds), that don't accept this.Jonathan said:
So no evidence. Nothing. Zip. Idle empty boasts. Not even paper thin. Have you even stood?Mortimer said:
I am not Tony Blair. That is all that is required to beat him in a electoral setting.Jonathan said:
Evidence? Please share the elections you have won.Mortimer said:
My unfavourables are much, much lower.Jonathan said:
Any evidence of your electoral success to back up you boast?Mortimer said:
No, bring him on. I could almost certainly defeat him myself in a parly election. It would be very very very simple. Iraq, iraq, iraq.Jonathan said:Blair is hated.
He is hated by the right and is hated by the far left. Why? Because he defeated them and they will never forgive him.
The reason they complain so much today is that they still fear him. There is that chance he might win.
Yet foolish 'no right turners' love him.
Seriously Jonathan - look at how unpopular he is.
He would not be nominated as a Tory, LD or, least of all Labour.
He wouldn't even be nominated as part of the Bus pass Elvis party.
He'd be an independent.
He is electoral POISON. How can you not see this?
NO ONE LIKES HIM. Apart from you, it would seem.
0 -
You are superimposing your own hatred , bigotry and views on everyone else in the country , thankfully you are in the minority .Mortimer said:
He is a busted flush. You seem to be the only person, apart from his old acolytes (perhaps you are one of them - and I claim my five pounds), that don't accept this.Jonathan said:
So no evidence. Nothing. Zip. Idle empty boasts. Not even paper thin. Have you even stood?Mortimer said:
I am not Tony Blair. That is all that is required to beat him in a electoral setting.Jonathan said:
Evidence? Please share the elections you have won.Mortimer said:
My unfavourables are much, much lower.Jonathan said:
Any evidence of your electoral success to back up you boast?Mortimer said:
No, bring him on. I could almost certainly defeat him myself in a parly election. It would be very very very simple. Iraq, iraq, iraq.Jonathan said:Blair is hated.
He is hated by the right and is hated by the far left. Why? Because he defeated them and they will never forgive him.
The reason they complain so much today is that they still fear him. There is that chance he might win.
Yet foolish 'no right turners' love him.
Seriously Jonathan - look at how unpopular he is.
He would not be nominated as a Tory, LD or, least of all Labour.
He wouldn't even be nominated as part of the Bus pass Elvis party.
He'd be an independent.
He is electoral POISON. How can you not see this?0 -
Chill IN, dickwad!viewcode said:
Hasta la Leaver, baby...Sunil_Prasannan said:
I know now why you REMOAN, but it is something that I cannot do.viewcode said:
Terminators.SouthamObserver said:0 -
Only because fanbois keep yearning for his special brand of cynicism.Jonathan said:
And yet they are compelled to talk about him.Mortimer said:
Actually what is remarkable about Blair is he ceased to have credibility, influence or electoral pull by 2010.isam said:
I bet you used to laugh at Tories who still thought Maggie was influential in 2000Jonathan said:
You said you would beat the most successful election winner since 1945. You must be awesome. No. Beyond awesome. And yet you keep your success quiet. Why?Mortimer said:
He is a busted flush. You seem to be the only person, apart from his old acolytes (perhaps you are one of them - and I claim my five pounds), that don't accept this.Jonathan said:
So no evidence. Nothing. Zip. Idle empty boasts. Not even paper thin. Have you even stood?Mortimer said:
I am not Tony Blair. That is all that is required to beat him in a electoral setting.Jonathan said:
Evidence? Please share the elections you have won.Mortimer said:
My unfavourables are much, much lower.Jonathan said:
Any evidence of your electoral success to back up you boast?Mortimer said:
No, bring him on. I could almost certainly defeat him myself in a parly election. It would be very very very simple. Iraq, iraq, iraq.Jonathan said:Blair is hated.
He is hated by the right and is hated by the far left. Why? Because he defeated them and they will never forgive him.
The reason they complain so much today is that they still fear him. There is that chance he might win.
Yet foolish 'no right turners' love him.
Seriously Jonathan - look at how unpopular he is.
He would not be nominated as a Tory, LD or, least of all Labour.
He wouldn't even be nominated as part of the Bus pass Elvis party.
He'd be an independent.
He is electoral POISON. How can you not see this?
His stock fell so far, so fast.0 -
Dear Tony,MarkSenior said:
You are superimposing your own hatred , bigotry and views on everyone else in the country , thankfully you are in the minority .Mortimer said:
He is a busted flush. You seem to be the only person, apart from his old acolytes (perhaps you are one of them - and I claim my five pounds), that don't accept this.Jonathan said:
So no evidence. Nothing. Zip. Idle empty boasts. Not even paper thin. Have you even stood?Mortimer said:
I am not Tony Blair. That is all that is required to beat him in a electoral setting.Jonathan said:
Evidence? Please share the elections you have won.Mortimer said:
My unfavourables are much, much lower.Jonathan said:
Any evidence of your electoral success to back up you boast?Mortimer said:
No, bring him on. I could almost certainly defeat him myself in a parly election. It would be very very very simple. Iraq, iraq, iraq.Jonathan said:Blair is hated.
He is hated by the right and is hated by the far left. Why? Because he defeated them and they will never forgive him.
The reason they complain so much today is that they still fear him. There is that chance he might win.
Yet foolish 'no right turners' love him.
Seriously Jonathan - look at how unpopular he is.
He would not be nominated as a Tory, LD or, least of all Labour.
He wouldn't even be nominated as part of the Bus pass Elvis party.
He'd be an independent.
He is electoral POISON. How can you not see this?
LEAVE 52%
REMAIN 48%
love,
Sunil
x0 -
Nope - I am in the majority. The vast majority.MarkSenior said:
You are superimposing your own hatred , bigotry and views on everyone else in the country , thankfully you are in the minority .Mortimer said:
He is a busted flush. You seem to be the only person, apart from his old acolytes (perhaps you are one of them - and I claim my five pounds), that don't accept this.Jonathan said:
So no evidence. Nothing. Zip. Idle empty boasts. Not even paper thin. Have you even stood?Mortimer said:
I am not Tony Blair. That is all that is required to beat him in a electoral setting.Jonathan said:
Evidence? Please share the elections you have won.Mortimer said:
My unfavourables are much, much lower.Jonathan said:
Any evidence of your electoral success to back up you boast?Mortimer said:
No, bring him on. I could almost certainly defeat him myself in a parly election. It would be very very very simple. Iraq, iraq, iraq.Jonathan said:Blair is hated.
He is hated by the right and is hated by the far left. Why? Because he defeated them and they will never forgive him.
The reason they complain so much today is that they still fear him. There is that chance he might win.
Yet foolish 'no right turners' love him.
Seriously Jonathan - look at how unpopular he is.
He would not be nominated as a Tory, LD or, least of all Labour.
He wouldn't even be nominated as part of the Bus pass Elvis party.
He'd be an independent.
He is electoral POISON. How can you not see this?
Go and look at the November 16 Yougov favourables/unfavourables. He is disliked by every sector of society - male, female, all social groups, all age groups.0 -
£350M please Sunil.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Dear Tony,MarkSenior said:
You are superimposing your own hatred , bigotry and views on everyone else in the country , thankfully you are in the minority .Mortimer said:
He is a busted flush. You seem to be the only person, apart from his old acolytes (perhaps you are one of them - and I claim my five pounds), that don't accept this.Jonathan said:
So no evidence. Nothing. Zip. Idle empty boasts. Not even paper thin. Have you even stood?Mortimer said:
I am not Tony Blair. That is all that is required to beat him in a electoral setting.Jonathan said:
Evidence? Please share the elections you have won.Mortimer said:
My unfavourables are much, much lower.Jonathan said:
Any evidence of your electoral success to back up you boast?Mortimer said:
No, bring him on. I could almost certainly defeat him myself in a parly election. It would be very very very simple. Iraq, iraq, iraq.Jonathan said:Blair is hated.
He is hated by the right and is hated by the far left. Why? Because he defeated them and they will never forgive him.
The reason they complain so much today is that they still fear him. There is that chance he might win.
Yet foolish 'no right turners' love him.
Seriously Jonathan - look at how unpopular he is.
He would not be nominated as a Tory, LD or, least of all Labour.
He wouldn't even be nominated as part of the Bus pass Elvis party.
He'd be an independent.
He is electoral POISON. How can you not see this?
LEAVE 52%
REMAIN 48%
love,
Sunil
x0 -
£4.5 billlion please, Jonathan!Jonathan said:
£350M please Sunil.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Dear Tony,MarkSenior said:
You are superimposing your own hatred , bigotry and views on everyone else in the country , thankfully you are in the minority .Mortimer said:
He is a busted flush. You seem to be the only person, apart from his old acolytes (perhaps you are one of them - and I claim my five pounds), that don't accept this.Jonathan said:
So no evidence. Nothing. Zip. Idle empty boasts. Not even paper thin. Have you even stood?Mortimer said:
I am not Tony Blair. That is all that is required to beat him in a electoral setting.Jonathan said:
Evidence? Please share the elections you have won.Mortimer said:
My unfavourables are much, much lower.Jonathan said:
Any evidence of your electoral success to back up you boast?Mortimer said:
No, bring him on. I could almost certainly defeat him myself in a parly election. It would be very very very simple. Iraq, iraq, iraq.Jonathan said:Blair is hated.
He is hated by the right and is hated by the far left. Why? Because he defeated them and they will never forgive him.
The reason they complain so much today is that they still fear him. There is that chance he might win.
Yet foolish 'no right turners' love him.
Seriously Jonathan - look at how unpopular he is.
He would not be nominated as a Tory, LD or, least of all Labour.
He wouldn't even be nominated as part of the Bus pass Elvis party.
He'd be an independent.
He is electoral POISON. How can you not see this?
LEAVE 52%
REMAIN 48%
love,
Sunil
x0 -
The Terminator...The Referendum Funding Bill is passed. The referendum goes online June 23rd 2016. Human decisions are removed from common sense. LEAVE begins to dribble at a geometric rate. It becomes fully self-unaware at 2:14 a.m. Eastern time, Feb 2nd 2017. In a panic, BLAIR tries to pull the plug.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Chill IN, dickwad!viewcode said:
Hasta la Leaver, baby...Sunil_Prasannan said:
I know now why you REMOAN, but it is something that I cannot do.viewcode said:
Terminators.SouthamObserver said:
Sarah Connor: LEAVE fights back.
The Terminator: Yes. It launches its tropes against the TRUMP in the USA.
John Connor: Why attack USA? Aren't they our friends now?
The Terminator: Because LEAVE knows that the TRUMP counterattack will eliminate its enemies over here....0 -
Those figures you quote are 8 months out of date. Oh I get it you think they're valid for ever more like the idiotic IDS and Carswell yesterday.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Dear Tony,MarkSenior said:
You are superimposing your own hatred , bigotry and views on everyone else in the country , thankfully you are in the minority .Mortimer said:
He is a busted flush. You seem to be the only person, apart from his old acolytes (perhaps you are one of them - and I claim my five pounds), that don't accept this.Jonathan said:
So no evidence. Nothing. Zip. Idle empty boasts. Not even paper thin. Have you even stood?Mortimer said:
I am not Tony Blair. That is all that is required to beat him in a electoral setting.Jonathan said:
Evidence? Please share the elections you have won.Mortimer said:
My unfavourables are much, much lower.Jonathan said:
Any evidence of your electoral success to back up you boast?Mortimer said:
No, bring him on. I could almost certainly defeat him myself in a parly election. It would be very very very simple. Iraq, iraq, iraq.Jonathan said:Blair is hated.
He is hated by the right and is hated by the far left. Why? Because he defeated them and they will never forgive him.
The reason they complain so much today is that they still fear him. There is that chance he might win.
Yet foolish 'no right turners' love him.
Seriously Jonathan - look at how unpopular he is.
He would not be nominated as a Tory, LD or, least of all Labour.
He wouldn't even be nominated as part of the Bus pass Elvis party.
He'd be an independent.
He is electoral POISON. How can you not see this?
LEAVE 52%
REMAIN 48%
love,
Sunil
x0 -
Seriously? Do the maths.Sunil_Prasannan said:
£4.5 billlion please, Jonathan!Jonathan said:
£350M please Sunil.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Dear Tony,MarkSenior said:
You are superimposing your own hatred , bigotry and views on everyone else in the country , thankfully you are in the minority .Mortimer said:
He is a busted flush. You seem to be the only person, apart from his old acolytes (perhaps you are one of them - and I claim my five pounds), that don't accept this.Jonathan said:
So no evidence. Nothing. Zip. Idle empty boasts. Not even paper thin. Have you even stood?Mortimer said:
I am not Tony Blair. That is all that is required to beat him in a electoral setting.Jonathan said:
Evidence? Please share the elections you have won.Mortimer said:
My unfavourables are much, much lower.Jonathan said:
Any evidence of your electoral success to back up you boast?Mortimer said:
No, bring him on. I could almost certainly defeat him myself in a parly election. It would be very very very simple. Iraq, iraq, iraq.Jonathan said:Blair is hated.
He is hated by the right and is hated by the far left. Why? Because he defeated them and they will never forgive him.
The reason they complain so much today is that they still fear him. There is that chance he might win.
Yet foolish 'no right turners' love him.
Seriously Jonathan - look at how unpopular he is.
He would not be nominated as a Tory, LD or, least of all Labour.
He wouldn't even be nominated as part of the Bus pass Elvis party.
He'd be an independent.
He is electoral POISON. How can you not see this?
LEAVE 52%
REMAIN 48%
love,
Sunil
x0 -
The unknown future rolls toward us. I face it, for the first time, with a sense of hope. Because if a REMAINER, Viewcode, can learn the value of human life, maybe we can too.viewcode said:
The Terminator...The Referendum Funding Bill is passed. The referendum goes online June 23rd 2016. Human decisions are removed from common sense. LEAVE begins to dribble at a geometric rate. It becomes fully self-unaware at 2:14 a.m. Eastern time, Feb 2nd 2017. In a panic, BLAIR tries to pull the plug.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Chill IN, dickwad!viewcode said:
Hasta la Leaver, baby...Sunil_Prasannan said:
I know now why you REMOAN, but it is something that I cannot do.viewcode said:
Terminators.SouthamObserver said:
Sarah Connor: LEAVE fights back.
The Terminator: Yes. It launches its tropes against the TRUMP in the USA.
John Connor: Why attack USA? Aren't they our friends now?
The Terminator: Because LEAVE knows that the TRUMP counterattack will eliminate its enemies over here....0 -
The previous Referendum on Europe was in 1975.Chris_A said:
Those figures you quote are 8 months out of date. Oh I get it you think they're valid for ever more like the idiotic IDS and Carswell yesterday.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Dear Tony,MarkSenior said:
You are superimposing your own hatred , bigotry and views on everyone else in the country , thankfully you are in the minority .Mortimer said:
He is a busted flush. You seem to be the only person, apart from his old acolytes (perhaps you are one of them - and I claim my five pounds), that don't accept this.Jonathan said:
So no evidence. Nothing. Zip. Idle empty boasts. Not even paper thin. Have you even stood?Mortimer said:
I am not Tony Blair. That is all that is required to beat him in a electoral setting.Jonathan said:
Evidence? Please share the elections you have won.Mortimer said:
My unfavourables are much, much lower.Jonathan said:
Any evidence of your electoral success to back up you boast?Mortimer said:
No, bring him on. I could almost certainly defeat him myself in a parly election. It would be very very very simple. Iraq, iraq, iraq.Jonathan said:Blair is hated.
He is hated by the right and is hated by the far left. Why? Because he defeated them and they will never forgive him.
The reason they complain so much today is that they still fear him. There is that chance he might win.
Yet foolish 'no right turners' love him.
Seriously Jonathan - look at how unpopular he is.
He would not be nominated as a Tory, LD or, least of all Labour.
He wouldn't even be nominated as part of the Bus pass Elvis party.
He'd be an independent.
He is electoral POISON. How can you not see this?
LEAVE 52%
REMAIN 48%
love,
Sunil
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£8.5 billion NET:Jonathan said:
Seriously? Do the maths.Sunil_Prasannan said:
£4.5 billlion please, Jonathan!Jonathan said:
£350M please Sunil.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Dear Tony,MarkSenior said:
You are superimposing your own hatred , bigotry and views on everyone else in the country , thankfully you are in the minority .Mortimer said:
He is a busted flush. You seem to be the only person, apart from his old acolytes (perhaps you are one of them - and I claim my five pounds), that don't accept this.Jonathan said:
So no evidence. Nothing. Zip. Idle empty boasts. Not even paper thin. Have you even stood?Mortimer said:
I am not Tony Blair. That is all that is required to beat him in a electoral setting.Jonathan said:
Evidence? Please share the elections you have won.Mortimer said:
My unfavourables are much, much lower.Jonathan said:
Any evidence of your electoral success to back up you boast?Mortimer said:
No, bring him on. I could almost certainly defeat him myself in a parly election. It would be very very very simple. Iraq, iraq, iraq.Jonathan said:Blair is hated.
He is hated by the right and is hated by the far left. Why? Because he defeated them and they will never forgive him.
The reason they complain so much today is that they still fear him. There is that chance he might win.
Yet foolish 'no right turners' love him.
Seriously Jonathan - look at how unpopular he is.
He would not be nominated as a Tory, LD or, least of all Labour.
He wouldn't even be nominated as part of the Bus pass Elvis party.
He'd be an independent.
He is electoral POISON. How can you not see this?
LEAVE 52%
REMAIN 48%
love,
Sunil
x
https://fullfact.org/europe/our-eu-membership-fee-55-million/0 -
The attack on Iraq in March 2003 was as much a criminal act as the attack on Poland at the beginning of September 1939. Those who ordered it deserve to be treated accordingly.Sunil_Prasannan said:
No second UN resolution?viewcode said:
Crazed? Possibly. War criminal? Definitely not. PBers use of words is more poestic than precise. Blair did not order war crimes and is not a war criminal, and the Iraq war was not illegal. I appreciate his actions were disliked, but that isn't the same thing.Sunil_Prasannan said:How does it feel to have a crazed war criminal, I mean, Tony Blair on your side?
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In terms of favourability Blair was higher than Major and Brown in the latest poll on PM ratings from Opinium but in terms of net favourability he did worse than Major with May having the highest ratingRichard_Tyndall said:
Blair is the second most unpopular PM of the last 40 odd years. He is second only to Brown in his net unpopularity and in his overall negative popularity ratings.Jonathan said:Blair is hated.
He is hated by the right and is hated by the far left. Why? Because he defeated them and they will never forgive him.
The reason they complain so much today is that they still fear him. There is that chance he might win.
https://yougov.co.uk/news/2016/08/10/cameron-best-prime-minister-since-thatcher/
http://www.cityam.com/258734/theresa-may-perceived-best-performing-prime-minister-200 -
Your lot promised £350m a week for the NHS. Time to deliver.Sunil_Prasannan said:
£8.5 billion NET:Jonathan said:
Seriously? Do the maths.Sunil_Prasannan said:
£4.5 billlion please, Jonathan!Jonathan said:
£350M please Sunil.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Dear Tony,MarkSenior said:
You are superimposing your own hatred , bigotry and views on everyone else in the country , thankfully you are in the minority .Mortimer said:
He is a busted flush. You seem to be the only person, apart from his old acolytes (perhaps you are one of them - and I claim my five pounds), that don't accept this.Jonathan said:
So no evidence. Nothing. Zip. Idle empty boasts. Not even paper thin. Have you even stood?Mortimer said:
I am not Tony Blair. That is all that is required to beat him in a electoral setting.Jonathan said:
Evidence? Please share the elections you have won.Mortimer said:
My unfavourables are much, much lower.Jonathan said:
Any evidence of your electoral success to back up you boast?Mortimer said:
No, bring him on. I could almost certainly defeat him myself in a parly election. It would be very very very simple. Iraq, iraq, iraq.Jonathan said:Blair is hated.
He is hated by the right and is hated by the far left. Why? Because he defeated them and they will never forgive him.
The reason they complain so much today is that they still fear him. There is that chance he might win.
Yet foolish 'no right turners' love him.
Seriously Jonathan - look at how unpopular he is.
He would not be nominated as a Tory, LD or, least of all Labour.
He wouldn't even be nominated as part of the Bus pass Elvis party.
He'd be an independent.
He is electoral POISON. How can you not see this?
LEAVE 52%
REMAIN 48%
love,
Sunil
x
https://fullfact.org/europe/our-eu-membership-fee-55-million/0 -
We haven't left the EU yet!Jonathan said:
Your lot promised £350m a week for the NHS. Time to deliver.Sunil_Prasannan said:
£8.5 billion NET:Jonathan said:
Seriously? Do the maths.Sunil_Prasannan said:
£4.5 billlion please, Jonathan!Jonathan said:
£350M please Sunil.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Dear Tony,MarkSenior said:
You are superimposing your own hatred , bigotry and views on everyone else in the country , thankfully you are in the minority .Mortimer said:
He is a busted flush. You seem to be the only person, apart from his old acolytes (perhaps you are one of them - and I claim my five pounds), that don't accept this.Jonathan said:
So no evidence. Nothing. Zip. Idle empty boasts. Not even paper thin. Have you even stood?Mortimer said:
I am not Tony Blair. That is all that is required to beat him in a electoral setting.Jonathan said:
Evidence? Please share the elections you have won.Mortimer said:
My unfavourables are much, much lower.Jonathan said:
Any evidence of your electoral success to back up you boast?Mortimer said:
No, bring him on. I could almost certainly defeat him myself in a parly election. It would be very very very simple. Iraq, iraq, iraq.Jonathan said:Blair is hated.
He is hated by the right and is hated by the far left. Why? Because he defeated them and they will never forgive him.
The reason they complain so much today is that they still fear him. There is that chance he might win.
Yet foolish 'no right turners' love him.
Seriously Jonathan - look at how unpopular he is.
He would not be nominated as a Tory, LD or, least of all Labour.
He wouldn't even be nominated as part of the Bus pass Elvis party.
He'd be an independent.
He is electoral POISON. How can you not see this?
LEAVE 52%
REMAIN 48%
love,
Sunil
x
https://fullfact.org/europe/our-eu-membership-fee-55-million/0 -
Emmbrook too close to call eh?
Result Lib Dems 1575 Conservatives 879 UKIP 104 Labour 79
Felt fantastic at the count. We smashed it out the park.0 -
LEAVE 494MrsB said:Emmbrook too close to call eh?
Result Lib Dems 1575 Conservatives 879 UKIP 104 Labour 79
Felt fantastic at the count. We smashed it out the park.
REMAIN 122
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Floater said:
Like very muchnunu said:
Buy a house next to J.K Rowling and build a big ugly block of council flats.SandyRentool said:
Buy some land, plant some trees. A legacy for your daughters and future generations.SeanT said:OFF-topic, but are there any financial experts in the house? Is Mister Nabavi around, or Charles, perhaps?
It's just that (and I am genuinely not trying to sound like a smug twat, or at least no more than normal) thanks to the nice Germans and Dutch and Nordics and Frogs, I have stupid amounts of money now sitting in my various accounts, in cash. A very sizeable six figure sum.
What the F do I do with it? I've already got a fairly hefty sum in shares. I'm invested in a start-up company. My main asset is London property so it doesn't make sense to buy more property, as diversifying is key, isn't it? Plus it could crash.
So where do you put it? Land? Gold? What? Premium Bonds?
Advice welcome. And yes this is a Very Very First World Problem and I am sorry for sounding like a git, but I am genuinely clueless. And pb is often very good in these situations.
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I could be clever-clever (well, it's my default state, but that's not important right now) and point out that the Soviets invaded Poland in 17 September 1939, but it wouldn't make my point. My point is that the invasion of Iraq (at least the UK component of it) was - strictly speaking - legal. Not being specifically authorised by the UN does not make a UK war illegaljustin124 said:
The attack on Iraq in March 2003 was as much a criminal act as the attack on Poland at the beginning of September 1939. Those who ordered it deserve to be treated accordingly.Sunil_Prasannan said:
No second UN resolution?viewcode said:
Crazed? Possibly. War criminal? Definitely not. PBers use of words is more poestic than precise. Blair did not order war crimes and is not a war criminal, and the Iraq war was not illegal. I appreciate his actions were disliked, but that isn't the same thing.Sunil_Prasannan said:How does it feel to have a crazed war criminal, I mean, Tony Blair on your side?
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what's really interesting in that Emmbrook result is when you compare it to 2016 (Wokingham elects in thirds) - Lib Dems 1222 Cons 1235 has become Lib Dems 1575 and Cons 879.
Campaign fought on local issues, including development, roads, school funding and the local Tories being a bunch of unpleasant greedy people who are fighting like rats in a sack.
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Fascinating.AndyJS said:Labour were about 10% ahead in the opinion polls at the time of the previous local election in 2013 for the seats being contested this year. They're now about 15% behind, so they could be heading for very heavy losses. They only hold two county councils at present, in Derbyshire and Nottinghamshire. (Excludes Durham which is a unitary authority).
Worth noting that in the 2013 local elections themselves, Labour managed only a three-point lead over the Tories (29%-26%) according to Rallings and Thrasher's NEV calculation.
That set of locals was UKIP's high-water mark, 22%.
http://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/CBP-7596/CBP-7596.pdf
(p. 16)
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The Germans invaded Poland on 1st September.viewcode said:
I could be clever-clever (well, it's my default state, but that's not important right now) and point out that the Soviets invaded Poland in 17 September 1939, but it wouldn't make my point. My point is that the invasion of Iraq (at least the UK component of it) was - strictly speaking - legal. Not being specifically authorised by the UN does not make a UK war illegaljustin124 said:
The attack on Iraq in March 2003 was as much a criminal act as the attack on Poland at the beginning of September 1939. Those who ordered it deserve to be treated accordingly.Sunil_Prasannan said:
No second UN resolution?viewcode said:
Crazed? Possibly. War criminal? Definitely not. PBers use of words is more poestic than precise. Blair did not order war crimes and is not a war criminal, and the Iraq war was not illegal. I appreciate his actions were disliked, but that isn't the same thing.Sunil_Prasannan said:How does it feel to have a crazed war criminal, I mean, Tony Blair on your side?
How was Iraq a threat to the UK in March 2003?0 -
What a depressingly awful way to exist
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/02/17/chicago-gang-members-say-more-police-wont-stop-murders.html0 -
Interesting read, thanks! I do not remember UKIP coming first in NEV in 2013!NeilVW said:
Fascinating.AndyJS said:Labour were about 10% ahead in the opinion polls at the time of the previous local election in 2013 for the seats being contested this year. They're now about 15% behind, so they could be heading for very heavy losses. They only hold two county councils at present, in Derbyshire and Nottinghamshire. (Excludes Durham which is a unitary authority).
Worth noting that in the 2013 local elections themselves, Labour managed only a three-point lead over the Tories (29%-26%) according to Rallings and Thrasher's NEV calculation.
That set of locals was UKIP's high-water mark, 22%.
http://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/CBP-7596/CBP-7596.pdf
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Rob, you are right not to remember that. It was Others (total) who got 32%, of which UKIP made up 22%.
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Well done.MrsB said:what's really interesting in that Emmbrook result is when you compare it to 2016 (Wokingham elects in thirds) - Lib Dems 1222 Cons 1235 has become Lib Dems 1575 and Cons 879.
Campaign fought on local issues, including development, roads, school funding and the local Tories being a bunch of unpleasant greedy people who are fighting like rats in a sack.
As the Lib Dem agent, I am very proud.0 -
Not so actually! In the first week of May 2013 the Labour lead with various pollsters was between 1% and 3%. A year earlier it had been close to 10%.AndyJS said:Labour were about 10% ahead in the opinion polls at the time of the previous local election in 2013 for the seats being contested this year. They're now about 15% behind, so they could be heading for very heavy losses. They only hold two county councils at present, in Derbyshire and Nottinghamshire. (Excludes Durham which is a unitary authority).
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But on the same basis the German invasion of Poland on 1st September 1939 was legal.viewcode said:
I could be clever-clever (well, it's my default state, but that's not important right now) and point out that the Soviets invaded Poland in 17 September 1939, but it wouldn't make my point. My point is that the invasion of Iraq (at least the UK component of it) was - strictly speaking - legal. Not being specifically authorised by the UN does not make a UK war illegaljustin124 said:
The attack on Iraq in March 2003 was as much a criminal act as the attack on Poland at the beginning of September 1939. Those who ordered it deserve to be treated accordingly.Sunil_Prasannan said:
No second UN resolution?viewcode said:
Crazed? Possibly. War criminal? Definitely not. PBers use of words is more poestic than precise. Blair did not order war crimes and is not a war criminal, and the Iraq war was not illegal. I appreciate his actions were disliked, but that isn't the same thing.Sunil_Prasannan said:How does it feel to have a crazed war criminal, I mean, Tony Blair on your side?
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If that's the case then the locals matched the Westminster VI polls quite closely, in terms of the Lab lead over Con, but with Others including UKIP and Independents presumably squeezing them both in terms of vote share obtained.justin124 said:
Not so actually! In the first week of May 2013 the Labour lead with various pollsters was between 1% and 3%. A year earlier it had been close to 10%.AndyJS said:Labour were about 10% ahead in the opinion polls at the time of the previous local election in 2013 for the seats being contested this year. They're now about 15% behind, so they could be heading for very heavy losses. They only hold two county councils at present, in Derbyshire and Nottinghamshire. (Excludes Durham which is a unitary authority).
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That is pretty accurate - UKIP were on a roll following their strong performance at the Eastleigh by election at the end of February!NeilVW said:
If that's the case then the locals matched the Westminster VI polls quite closely, in terms of the Lab lead over Con, but with Others including UKIP and Independents presumably squeezing them both in terms of vote share obtained.justin124 said:
Not so actually! In the first week of May 2013 the Labour lead with various pollsters was between 1% and 3%. A year earlier it had been close to 10%.AndyJS said:Labour were about 10% ahead in the opinion polls at the time of the previous local election in 2013 for the seats being contested this year. They're now about 15% behind, so they could be heading for very heavy losses. They only hold two county councils at present, in Derbyshire and Nottinghamshire. (Excludes Durham which is a unitary authority).
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I have to eat a big piece of humble pie here - I was wrong in my comments re- May 2013. I misread the polling tables and was actually viewing May 2014. Apologies to AndyJS who is basically correct in his assertion. In the first week of May 2013 the Labour lead was in the range of 6 to 11%. Labour significantly underperformed its poll ratings that year.0
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We all make mistakes :-)
Of course Westminster VI asks about GE not locals, but it's fun to compare figures.
If Labour underperform their polls by a similar amount they're in big trouble in May!
Last year's NEVs were 33 Lab, 32 Con, 14 LD, 12 UKIP, 9 Others.0 -
The Westminster polls in late April 2016 were all over the place:
YouGov: Lab +3
BMG: Con +1
Opinium: Con +80 -
Don't know how many six figures you've got - but a friend who moved to SA recently forwarded me this beauty (out of my league...)SeanT said:OFF-topic, but are there any financial experts in the house? Is Mister Nabavi around, or Charles, perhaps?
It's just that (and I am genuinely not trying to sound like a smug twat, or at least no more than normal) thanks to the nice Germans and Dutch and Nordics and Frogs, I have stupid amounts of money now sitting in my various accounts, in cash. A very sizeable six figure sum.
What the F do I do with it? I've already got a fairly hefty sum in shares. I'm invested in a start-up company. My main asset is London property so it doesn't make sense to buy more property, as diversifying is key, isn't it? Plus it could crash.
So where do you put it? Land? Gold? What? Premium Bonds?
Advice welcome. And yes this is a Very Very First World Problem and I am sorry for sounding like a git, but I am genuinely clueless. And pb is often very good in these situations.
http://www.knightfrank.co.za/properties/residential/for-sale/franschhoek-cape-town/za253029
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Well done you......now the tricky bit, how you scale that with a national leader as unknown as whatshisnameMrsB said:what's really interesting in that Emmbrook result is when you compare it to 2016 (Wokingham elects in thirds) - Lib Dems 1222 Cons 1235 has become Lib Dems 1575 and Cons 879.
Campaign fought on local issues, including development, roads, school funding and the local Tories being a bunch of unpleasant greedy people who are fighting like rats in a sack.
As the Lib Dem agent, I am very proud.0 -
No! No! No!Sunil_Prasannan said:
We haven't left the EU yet!Jonathan said:
Your lot promised £350m a week for the NHS. Time to deliver.Sunil_Prasannan said:
£8.5 billion NET:Jonathan said:
Seriously? Do the maths.Sunil_Prasannan said:
£4.5 billlion please, Jonathan!Jonathan said:
£350M please Sunil.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Dear Tony,MarkSenior said:
You are superimposing your own hatred , bigotry and views on everyone else in the country , thankfully you are in the minority .Mortimer said:
He is a busted flush. You seem to be the only person, apart from his old acolytes (perhaps you are one of them - and I claim my five pounds), that don't accept this.Jonathan said:
So no evidence. Nothing. Zip. Idle empty boasts. Not even paper thin. Have you even stood?Mortimer said:
I am not Tony Blair. That is all that is required to beat him in a electoral setting.Jonathan said:
Evidence? Please share the elections you have won.Mortimer said:
My unfavourables are much, much lower.Jonathan said:
Any evidence of your electoral success to back up you boast?Mortimer said:
No, bring him on. I could almost certainly defeat him myself in a parly election. It would be very very very simple. Iraq, iraq, iraq.Jonathan said:Blair is hated.
He is hated by the right and is hated by the far left. Why? Because he defeated them and they will never forgive him.
The reason they complain so much today is that they still fear him. There is that chance he might win.
Yet foolish 'no right turners' love him.
Seriously Jonathan - look at how unpopular he is.
He would not be nominated as a Tory, LD or, least of all Labour.
He wouldn't even be nominated as part of the Bus pass Elvis party.
He'd be an independent.
He is electoral POISON. How can you not see this?
LEAVE 52%
REMAIN 48%
love,
Sunil
x
https://fullfact.org/europe/our-eu-membership-fee-55-million/
You are only allowed to use 'We haven't left yet' when its good news
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You must be wrong, I checked the figures on Wikipedia before posting.justin124 said:
Not so actually! In the first week of May 2013 the Labour lead with various pollsters was between 1% and 3%. A year earlier it had been close to 10%.AndyJS said:Labour were about 10% ahead in the opinion polls at the time of the previous local election in 2013 for the seats being contested this year. They're now about 15% behind, so they could be heading for very heavy losses. They only hold two county councils at present, in Derbyshire and Nottinghamshire. (Excludes Durham which is a unitary authority).
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