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Nice to know - the media blew a gasket when Trump wasn't asked about Flynn at his joint press conference with Trudeau.PlatoSaid said:Joel B Pollack
Beyond ridiculous. @CNN claims the mainstream media asks good questions at presidential pressers. Reminder: https://t.co/0PRssauoJl0 -
Indeed.felix said:
A gradual rise in interest rates over the next 2 years would be a very healthy sign of a truly recovering economy.Richard_Nabavi said:
Certainly, in my circle we're doing our bit!Patrick said:You seem to have a view of pensioners as poor old people. They're rich! (On average). What % of supercars are bought by the over 60? Alot. Who is buying cruises and running the heating on full? Who overspends on christmas presents? Who bets on politics? Who goes to theatre? Who drinks champagne? I'd contend that much of the exuberant spending in our consumption heavy economic model is spent by those pesky oldies and all their wonga.
It's like the patient has recovered from a heart attack but is still being kept on life-support - Which in itself is not without consequences for the patient.
Good point.welshowl said:
The other part in all of this, is the devastating effect low interest rates have on pensions, with both companies and individuals having to "defensively save" (liquidity trap I believe it's called?) to build ever bigger funds to compensate for such measly returns. That is also a huge drag on demand.0 -
Total health spending ought to rise to around 11% of GDP, not the current 9% or so that we have now. That would match France/Germany.
At the same time the billions need to be looked after in the NHS - ye but its only overspending by 20 million here, 10 million there; the blind costs £800 to procure because we need to tick a hundred boxes with it. All that sort of crap needs to be cut out, Lansley's reforms just added cost for no real benefit so far as I can work out. As for Brown and the GP settlement/legacy PFI nonsense he's left us with. Well.
More joined up thinking between homes and the NHS to get people to the appropriate place (Out of a bed, into a halfway house or w/e)
But on top of all that it could do with more cash. We're aging as a population and although by definition you can never have a perfect public health service (Demand is infinite) it is not in the state I think as commonly portrayed and some extra billions SPENT THE RIGHT WAY would definitely help.
The right have a point that alot of the cash is pissed up the wall, and the left that there isn't enough of it.
I think both are correct. Sort the spending and increase the spending.0 -
I worked in Gateshead for 20 years - people from Newcastle would NEVER cross any of the five bridges to work or shop in Gateshead.CarlottaVance said:
Not in my experience of living there for 15 years. Now back to your Focus Group of One.....Jobabob said:
WRONG. My wife is a Geordie, from Gateshead. She says she is from Newcastle. I know the area well. You are talking about a small parochial group.CarlottaVance said:
The 'people who insist' are, in my experience, 'the people of Gateshead'.......easiest way to wind them up is to refer to 'the Newcastle Millennium Bridge' or 'The Sage Newcastle'.....OldKingCole said:
Mr Bob, it's some years since I lived in the area, but there was a distinct difference between the two towns. And not just the Tyne!Jobabob said:
That just demonstrates how parochial an area it is. Reminds me of people who insist that Gateshead is an entirely separate town to Newcastle when it is palpably a suburb in the same city, whatever the local administrators say. These petty obsessions hold cities back – Manchester and London have the right idea – merge and govern. Size matters.tlg86 said:
If I lived in Newcastle-under-Lyme, I'd be offended if someone said I lived in Stoke!isam said:Remember how much we all like a Stoke housing technicality...
https://twitter.com/asabenn/status/8314162747900518400 -
Mr. Rex, in 2,000 years time, the civilised will still be referring to the Second Punic War, and the tedious will still be referring to a campaign bus
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Lock him up for violating The Logan Act.Pulpstar said:Trump is doing fine. Flynn engaged in international diplomacy as a private citizen by his own admission so had to go.
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Trump or Flynn ?TheScreamingEagles said:
Lock him up for violating The Logan Act.Pulpstar said:Trump is doing fine. Flynn engaged in international diplomacy as a private citizen by his own admission so had to go.
Flynn I see. He could well be tried for that.0 -
heySouthamObserver said:Do I take it that the liberal media just don't get how Trump has run rings round them once again by being forced to dump his National Security Adviser after just three weeks? I note that he has brilliantly managed to drop his approval rating down to 40% as well. The bloke is a genius.
you joined Corbyns party
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The latter for sure, Trump ? Depends if Flynn was acting under orders from Trump.Pulpstar said:
Trump or Flynn ?TheScreamingEagles said:
Lock him up for violating The Logan Act.Pulpstar said:Trump is doing fine. Flynn engaged in international diplomacy as a private citizen by his own admission so had to go.
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There is a car bumper sticker that goes as follows "This car might be old and slow, but its paid for and in front of yours". Trump might observe the same applies to being POTUSSouthamObserver said:Do I take it that the liberal media just don't get how Trump has run rings round them once again by being forced to dump his National Security Adviser after just three weeks? I note that he has brilliantly managed to drop his approval rating down to 40% as well. The bloke is a genius.
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The Romans won. Suck it up.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Rex, in 2,000 years time, the civilised will still be referring to the Second Punic War, and the tedious will still be referring to a campaign bus
Edit: just to bring things down to the same level as the arguments about the bus!0 -
betting markets, not stock markets. I've no idea how they're regulated but the sentence doesn't make sense. If they carried out private polling predicting a Leave vote then they would have bet on Leave. And vice versa, presumably, albeit it might have been "inside" knowledge (good luck with proving that in court).Charles said:
The amount of money required to skew markets and send false signals to rivals is small compared to the amounts to be madeTOPPING said:
For what?Charles said:
Because if that is why they were doing it they could be locked up.Essexit said:In his last blog post on the referendum, Cummings suggests that the betting markets may have been skewed by hedge funds. He doesn't have hard evidence, but points out the following:
- Betting markets have become more important as a way of predicting results
- He knows that some funds had private polling pointing to a Leave win
- The amount of money required to skew markets and send false signals to rivals is small compared to the amounts to be made y
With all that in mind, why wouldn't they do it?
Sounds like classic market abuse to me
What false signals would they have sent to rivals? Adding in their weekly performance update a bit about how they expected Remain to win?
Edit: I see @Pulpstar got there first.0 -
Mr. Rex, it was rigged. Flaminius was so stupid. What a loser! Led his army to total annihilation. Sad!0
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Trump was told by the DoJ that Flynn was a liability weeks ago.Pulpstar said:Trump is doing fine. Flynn engaged in international diplomacy as a private citizen by his own admission so had to go.
http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/319361-doj-warned-wh-on-flynn-report
I wonder what else he has been told and has ignored.
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Only on here. After the next GE the public won't give a cr@p, either the tories got kicked out in which case they got their just desserts, or they got re-elected in which case the public decided that the suggestion we might considering spending 350m on the NHS wasnt enough to elect someone else.Carolus_Rex said:Jesus. Are we still going to be having this same bloody argument in 2021?
What a depressing thought.0 -
But UKIP think I am great!Alanbrooke said:
heySouthamObserver said:Do I take it that the liberal media just don't get how Trump has run rings round them once again by being forced to dump his National Security Adviser after just three weeks? I note that he has brilliantly managed to drop his approval rating down to 40% as well. The bloke is a genius.
you joined Corbyns party
people in glasshouses etc
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Labour were told Corbyn was a liability 2 years ago, he's still thereSouthamObserver said:
Trump was told by the DoJ that Flynn was a liability weeks ago.Pulpstar said:Trump is doing fine. Flynn engaged in international diplomacy as a private citizen by his own admission so had to go.
http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/319361-doj-warned-wh-on-flynn-report
I wonder what else he has been told and has ignored.0 -
@CarlottaVance
Surely you mean my focus group of hundreds? My wife's massive family all live in Gateshead, I visit regularly, and I lived in the region myself for several years. There are always going to be some parochial types (that's across the park from me, there be dragons) but the truth is cities grow and expand over time. Manchester, London and Liverpool realise this – hence why they have wisely merged into combined authorities and are governed by a strategic mayor. More fool Newcastle for not taking the opportunity.0 -
Mr Eagles will be along shortly to say something similar about Zama, I've no doubt.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Rex, it was rigged. Flaminius was so stupid. What a loser! Led his army to total annihilation. Sad!
Personally I find all this Second Punic War stuff a bit new-fangled. I'm waiting for a thread to get hijacked by a discussion of whether Ramses II or Muwatalli II was the real victor at Kadesh.0 -
Er, yes - and he is totally irrelevant. Unfortunately, Trump isn't.Alanbrooke said:
Labour were told Corbyn was a liability 2 years ago, he's still thereSouthamObserver said:
Trump was told by the DoJ that Flynn was a liability weeks ago.Pulpstar said:Trump is doing fine. Flynn engaged in international diplomacy as a private citizen by his own admission so had to go.
http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/319361-doj-warned-wh-on-flynn-report
I wonder what else he has been told and has ignored.
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2020 is less than three years away. A short time for a huge spike.GIN1138 said:
Well of course you wouldn't hike rates from pretty much 0% to 2.5% overnight.Jobabob said:
Yes, but you have to examine what the market will bear. It won't bear such a large hike without a severe impact on aggregate demand.GIN1138 said:
Well, I didn't say increase it to 3% I said increase it to 2-3%. 3% would be at the far upper level.Jobabob said:
That is the rate than most mortgagees are paying on their mortgages now. If you increase the base rate to 3% you are looking at mortgages at something around 6-7%. Result - massive slump in aggregate demand from exactly the group of people that keep the economy moving.GIN1138 said:
So we just indefinitely keep rates around where they was when the economy suffered its heart attack in 2008?Jobabob said:
Hopefully not. Most of Gen X are mortgaged to the hilt and raises in interest rates are a surefire way to depress aggregate demand. Many more people are borrowers or parents of borrowers than are savers without any mortgaged children.GIN1138 said:So now that inflation is *finally* getting back towards trend, any chance that interest rates might begin to move upwards to a more sensible level?
My Mother put £15,000 into an ISA with a floating rate last year (we figured rates couldn't go lower so no point having a fixed rate) and what happened? BoE, against what Boy George had been promising before the referendum, cut the rate again lol.
They interest she's earning on her ISA is just derisory.
Surely an inflation rate of around 2-3% and an interest rate of around 2-3% is what we should be aiming for as a sign that the economy is back to a long term sensible situation?
So lets say we meet in the middle and aim for an interest rate of 2.5% I really think a sensible, healthy economy should be able to cope with an interest rate of 2.5%.
That would still be a lot lower than the interest rates through most of my life up to 2008 - Including during most of the last Labour government until the final two years - When rates were at 5-6% on average.
If they did it I'd expect it to happen slowly over a couple of years.
Lets say by 2020, 2% inflation. 2.5% interest rate with tax maintained at a sensible level and bobs your uncle - We're back to normal.
Interesting that the PB-Savers-Without-Mortgaged-Children favour a huge hike in interest rates.
Thankfully for the rest of the country the Monetary Policy Committee beg to differ.0 -
I'm ahead of the curve then. I don't give a cr@p already.AlsoIndigo said:
Only on here. After the next GE the public won't give a cr@p, either the tories got kicked out in which case they got their just desserts, or they got re-elected in which case the public decided that the suggestion we might considering spending 350m on the NHS wasnt enough to elect someone else.Carolus_Rex said:Jesus. Are we still going to be having this same bloody argument in 2021?
What a depressing thought.0 -
May be they are smarter than me, but if they are betting Remain then I don't see how they make money on the betting markets for leave winning... the only way @Essexit 's post makes sense is if they are making money else where - on forex or the stock markets. Forex probably the easiest.TOPPING said:
betting markets, not stock markets. I've no idea how they're regulated but the sentence doesn't make sense. If they carried out private polling predicting a Leave vote then they would have bet on Leave. And vice versa, presumably, albeit it might have been "inside" knowledge (good luck with proving that in court).Charles said:
The amount of money required to skew markets and send false signals to rivals is small compared to the amounts to be madeTOPPING said:
For what?Charles said:
Because if that is why they were doing it they could be locked up.Essexit said:In his last blog post on the referendum, Cummings suggests that the betting markets may have been skewed by hedge funds. He doesn't have hard evidence, but points out the following:
- Betting markets have become more important as a way of predicting results
- He knows that some funds had private polling pointing to a Leave win
- The amount of money required to skew markets and send false signals to rivals is small compared to the amounts to be made y
With all that in mind, why wouldn't they do it?
Sounds like classic market abuse to me
What false signals would they have sent to rivals? Adding in their weekly performance update a bit about how they expected Remain to win?
Edit: I see @Pulpstar got there first.
But this is a fairly pointless discussion about how you interpret someone else's post...0 -
Stephen Bush says Labour may hold on in Copeland:
http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/elections/2017/02/who-will-win-copeland-election0 -
SouthamObserver said:
Do I take it that the liberal media just don't get how Trump has run rings round them once again by being forced to dump his National Security Adviser after just three weeks? I note that he has brilliantly managed to drop his approval rating down to 40% as well. The bloke is a genius.
Yes his genius and besting of the media was there for all to see when he a) created a toothless executive order that invoked the rejection of the judiciary and b) managed to be snapped breaking security protocol by signing official documents with the Japanese PM in an open air restaurant, thus invoking widespread derision from the rest of the world. He really is an absolute Don, the Donald.0 -
I could spend a working day pointing this out - but it changes few minds. Haters, hate.weejonnie said:
Nice to know - the media blew a gasket when Trump wasn't asked about Flynn at his joint press conference with Trudeau.PlatoSaid said:Joel B Pollack
Beyond ridiculous. @CNN claims the mainstream media asks good questions at presidential pressers. Reminder: https://t.co/0PRssauoJl
Bill and Obama said exactly the same stuff about walls, immigration etc - it's all on YouTube - but the liberals can't cope with it and convince themselves it never happened.
Now it's all FASCIST HITLER NAZI.
Pathetic.0 -
Could Trump be vulnerable for his stint as Scottish Business Ambassador 2006-15?TheScreamingEagles said:
The latter for sure, Trump ? Depends if Flynn was acting under orders from Trump.Pulpstar said:
Trump or Flynn ?TheScreamingEagles said:
Lock him up for violating The Logan Act.Pulpstar said:Trump is doing fine. Flynn engaged in international diplomacy as a private citizen by his own admission so had to go.
I know it was a Jack McConnell appointment, but he lasted through all of Salmond and a fair bit of Sturgeon. If I were the SNP I'd be pretty bloody embarrassed about that.0 -
Sunil's Great British Railway Journeys - 2017 Edition. Rail routes that Sunil has done for the first time - excludes journeys taken to reach said routes. Other routes were done for the first time in previous calendar years.HurstLlama said:In really big news today, the Settle to Carlisle railway is reintroducing scheduled services pulled by a steam locomotive. Huzzah!
The good doctor Sunil will no doubt be packing his bags for a journey North as we speak, and Mr. Jessup will be penning a post as to why this is a massive retrograde step, will do nothing to increase capacity and only the technology of the mid-twentieth century can get us through the 21st century.
Already off to a cracking start this year
This time last week I was actually at Skipton, but only did the electric train from Leeds.
January: Doncaster to Hull via Selby, Chester to Warrington Bank Quay, Warrington Bank Quay to Newton-le-Willows, Bermondsey Dive-under (London Bridge to New Cross Gate), Hayes & Harlington "new" bay platform, Heathrow Airport junction new layout (slow tracks).
February: Sheffield to Lincoln, Swinton (Yorks.) to Fitzwilliam, Leeds to York, Doncaster to Cleethorpes, Heathrow Airport junction new layout (fast tracks), Guide Bridge to Rose Hill, Leeds to Skipton, Deansgate to Leyland, Preston to Blackpool North, Blackpool Tramway (Fleetwood Ferry to Starr Gate), Manchester Victoria to Mirfield via Brighouse, Leeds to Sowerby Bridge via Bradford Interchange, Manchester Victoria to Stalybridge, Manchester Victoria to Southport, Wigan Wallgate to Kirkby. Chinley to Ashburys (Manchester).0 -
Nope.Ishmael_Z said:
Could Trump be vulnerable for his stint as Scottish Business Ambassador 2006-15?TheScreamingEagles said:
The latter for sure, Trump ? Depends if Flynn was acting under orders from Trump.Pulpstar said:
Trump or Flynn ?TheScreamingEagles said:
Lock him up for violating The Logan Act.Pulpstar said:Trump is doing fine. Flynn engaged in international diplomacy as a private citizen by his own admission so had to go.
I know it was a Jack McConnell appointment, but he lasted through all of Salmond and a fair bit of Sturgeon. If I were the SNP I'd be pretty bloody embarrassed about that.0 -
Mr. Rex, Ramses.
On the basis he's the only one I've heard of. I do know he lived so long all his children died before him, and when he did die everyone had forgotten how the ceremony of making a new pharaoh was meant to go.0 -
Clearly a usage of the word "Genius" I was not previously aware of.....SouthamObserver said:Do I take it that the liberal media just don't get how Trump has run rings round them once again by being forced to dump his National Security Adviser after just three weeks? I note that he has brilliantly managed to drop his approval rating down to 40% as well. The bloke is a genius.
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I think you can afford to stop virtue-signalling on this one. The likelihood of nuclear war in the next four years is, oooh, ten times what it would have been under Hillary. The world therefore divides clearly into those who are anti-Trump, and those in imperative need of straitjackets and thorazine.Jobabob said:SouthamObserver said:Do I take it that the liberal media just don't get how Trump has run rings round them once again by being forced to dump his National Security Adviser after just three weeks? I note that he has brilliantly managed to drop his approval rating down to 40% as well. The bloke is a genius.
Yes his genius and besting of the media was there for all to see when he a) created a toothless executive order that invoked the rejection of the judiciary and b) managed to be snapped breaking security protocol by signing official documents with the Japanese PM in an open air restaurant, thus invoking widespread derision from the rest of the world. He really is an absolute Don, the Donald.0 -
What's that got to do with Trump being asked about Flynn?PlatoSaid said:
I could spend a working day pointing this out - but it changes few minds. Haters, hate.weejonnie said:
Nice to know - the media blew a gasket when Trump wasn't asked about Flynn at his joint press conference with Trudeau.PlatoSaid said:Joel B Pollack
Beyond ridiculous. @CNN claims the mainstream media asks good questions at presidential pressers. Reminder: https://t.co/0PRssauoJl
Bill and Obama said exactly the same stuff about walls, immigration etc - it's all on YouTube - but the liberals can't cope with it and convince themselves it never happened.
Now it's all FASCIST HITLER NAZI.
Pathetic.
"Mr Flynn is said to have misled officials about his call with Russia's ambassador before his own appointment.
It is illegal for private citizens to conduct US diplomacy."
Surely that would be an expected and valid subject to question him on?0 -
Stick it on general taxation and call it "The £350m Brexit Bonus". People keep saying "Put more money into the NHS". Who could possibly complain?Pulpstar said:Total health spending ought to rise to around 11% of GDP, not the current 9% or so that we have now. That would match France/Germany.
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I suspect it is A HUNDRED times more likely! It has moved from 0.001% to 0.1%Ishmael_Z said:
I think you can afford to stop virtue-signalling on this one. The likelihood of nuclear war in the next four years is, oooh, ten times what it would have been under Hillary. The world therefore divides clearly into those who are anti-Trump, and those in imperative need of straitjackets and thorazine.Jobabob said:SouthamObserver said:Do I take it that the liberal media just don't get how Trump has run rings round them once again by being forced to dump his National Security Adviser after just three weeks? I note that he has brilliantly managed to drop his approval rating down to 40% as well. The bloke is a genius.
Yes his genius and besting of the media was there for all to see when he a) created a toothless executive order that invoked the rejection of the judiciary and b) managed to be snapped breaking security protocol by signing official documents with the Japanese PM in an open air restaurant, thus invoking widespread derision from the rest of the world. He really is an absolute Don, the Donald.0 -
The Dear Leader (Yes that one)'s brother has just come to an unfortunate end in Malaysia.Charles said:
I suspect it is A HUNDRED times more likely! It has moved from 0.001% to 0.1%Ishmael_Z said:
I think you can afford to stop virtue-signalling on this one. The likelihood of nuclear war in the next four years is, oooh, ten times what it would have been under Hillary. The world therefore divides clearly into those who are anti-Trump, and those in imperative need of straitjackets and thorazine.Jobabob said:SouthamObserver said:Do I take it that the liberal media just don't get how Trump has run rings round them once again by being forced to dump his National Security Adviser after just three weeks? I note that he has brilliantly managed to drop his approval rating down to 40% as well. The bloke is a genius.
Yes his genius and besting of the media was there for all to see when he a) created a toothless executive order that invoked the rejection of the judiciary and b) managed to be snapped breaking security protocol by signing official documents with the Japanese PM in an open air restaurant, thus invoking widespread derision from the rest of the world. He really is an absolute Don, the Donald.0 -
I enjoyed you signalling what you consider to be your no bullshit, straight talking virtues there.Ishmael_Z said:
I think you can afford to stop virtue-signalling on this one. The likelihood of nuclear war in the next four years is, oooh, ten times what it would have been under Hillary. The world therefore divides clearly into those who are anti-Trump, and those in imperative need of straitjackets and thorazine.Jobabob said:SouthamObserver said:Do I take it that the liberal media just don't get how Trump has run rings round them once again by being forced to dump his National Security Adviser after just three weeks? I note that he has brilliantly managed to drop his approval rating down to 40% as well. The bloke is a genius.
Yes his genius and besting of the media was there for all to see when he a) created a toothless executive order that invoked the rejection of the judiciary and b) managed to be snapped breaking security protocol by signing official documents with the Japanese PM in an open air restaurant, thus invoking widespread derision from the rest of the world. He really is an absolute Don, the Donald.
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Although I understand that since he tried to go to Disneyland he was out of favour in Heavenly-Paradise-on-Earth (aka Pyongyang)Pulpstar said:
The Dear Leader (Yes that one)'s brother has just come to an unfortunate end in Malaysia.Charles said:
I suspect it is A HUNDRED times more likely! It has moved from 0.001% to 0.1%Ishmael_Z said:
I think you can afford to stop virtue-signalling on this one. The likelihood of nuclear war in the next four years is, oooh, ten times what it would have been under Hillary. The world therefore divides clearly into those who are anti-Trump, and those in imperative need of straitjackets and thorazine.Jobabob said:SouthamObserver said:Do I take it that the liberal media just don't get how Trump has run rings round them once again by being forced to dump his National Security Adviser after just three weeks? I note that he has brilliantly managed to drop his approval rating down to 40% as well. The bloke is a genius.
Yes his genius and besting of the media was there for all to see when he a) created a toothless executive order that invoked the rejection of the judiciary and b) managed to be snapped breaking security protocol by signing official documents with the Japanese PM in an open air restaurant, thus invoking widespread derision from the rest of the world. He really is an absolute Don, the Donald.0 -
I've met him. Or more precisely I have seen his mummified corpse in Cairo.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Rex, Ramses.
On the basis he's the only one I've heard of. I do know he lived so long all his children died before him, and when he did die everyone had forgotten how the ceremony of making a new pharaoh was meant to go.
One thing about him is, that poem Ozymandias is about him - there's a fallen down statue of him in Egyptian Thebes (Luxor) - and the poem is therefore complete bollocks, because you still can't walk 100 yards in Egypt without coming across yet another 100x life size statue of the bastard.0 -
What with Flynn resigning just hours after the Washington Post published its story on him and the warnings given to Trump it's almost as if it was that which prompted him to go. Surely not.Jobabob said:SouthamObserver said:Do I take it that the liberal media just don't get how Trump has run rings round them once again by being forced to dump his National Security Adviser after just three weeks? I note that he has brilliantly managed to drop his approval rating down to 40% as well. The bloke is a genius.
Yes his genius and besting of the media was there for all to see when he a) created a toothless executive order that invoked the rejection of the judiciary and b) managed to be snapped breaking security protocol by signing official documents with the Japanese PM in an open air restaurant, thus invoking widespread derision from the rest of the world. He really is an absolute Don, the Donald.
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Your post would have been great had you avoided using the puerile patois of rightwing internet warriors.Ishmael_Z said:
I think you can afford to stop virtue-signalling on this one. The likelihood of nuclear war in the next four years is, oooh, ten times what it would have been under Hillary. The world therefore divides clearly into those who are anti-Trump, and those in imperative need of straitjackets and thorazine.Jobabob said:SouthamObserver said:Do I take it that the liberal media just don't get how Trump has run rings round them once again by being forced to dump his National Security Adviser after just three weeks? I note that he has brilliantly managed to drop his approval rating down to 40% as well. The bloke is a genius.
Yes his genius and besting of the media was there for all to see when he a) created a toothless executive order that invoked the rejection of the judiciary and b) managed to be snapped breaking security protocol by signing official documents with the Japanese PM in an open air restaurant, thus invoking widespread derision from the rest of the world. He really is an absolute Don, the Donald.0 -
Mind you, as I sit out my final hours glowing in the dark there will be a small part of me saying "in your face, Hillary".SouthamObserver said:
I enjoyed you signalling what you consider to be your no bullshit, straight talking virtues there.Ishmael_Z said:
I think you can afford to stop virtue-signalling on this one. The likelihood of nuclear war in the next four years is, oooh, ten times what it would have been under Hillary. The world therefore divides clearly into those who are anti-Trump, and those in imperative need of straitjackets and thorazine.Jobabob said:SouthamObserver said:Do I take it that the liberal media just don't get how Trump has run rings round them once again by being forced to dump his National Security Adviser after just three weeks? I note that he has brilliantly managed to drop his approval rating down to 40% as well. The bloke is a genius.
Yes his genius and besting of the media was there for all to see when he a) created a toothless executive order that invoked the rejection of the judiciary and b) managed to be snapped breaking security protocol by signing official documents with the Japanese PM in an open air restaurant, thus invoking widespread derision from the rest of the world. He really is an absolute Don, the Donald.0 -
The likelihood of nuclear war with Russia is less than with Hillary but the likelihood of nuclear war with China is higher under TrumpIshmael_Z said:
I think you can afford to stop virtue-signalling on this one. The likelihood of nuclear war in the next four years is, oooh, ten times what it would have been under Hillary. The world therefore divides clearly into those who are anti-Trump, and those in imperative need of straitjackets and thorazine.Jobabob said:SouthamObserver said:Do I take it that the liberal media just don't get how Trump has run rings round them once again by being forced to dump his National Security Adviser after just three weeks? I note that he has brilliantly managed to drop his approval rating down to 40% as well. The bloke is a genius.
Yes his genius and besting of the media was there for all to see when he a) created a toothless executive order that invoked the rejection of the judiciary and b) managed to be snapped breaking security protocol by signing official documents with the Japanese PM in an open air restaurant, thus invoking widespread derision from the rest of the world. He really is an absolute Don, the Donald.0 -
And more fake news - it's getting absurd now.
I saw this supposed twitter account and immediately thought fake. An ITV journalist retweeted cobblers from Rogue White House as a potential source. They've lost their minds
Gabriel Malor
NYTimes has removed the portion including tweets from an unverified account purporting to be Flynn. This is the perfect mistake for 2017. https://t.co/ioGgAzVTfe0 -
Ronseal-virtues-signalling?SouthamObserver said:
I enjoyed you signalling what you consider to be your no bullshit, straight talking virtues there.Ishmael_Z said:
I think you can afford to stop virtue-signalling on this one. The likelihood of nuclear war in the next four years is, oooh, ten times what it would have been under Hillary. The world therefore divides clearly into those who are anti-Trump, and those in imperative need of straitjackets and thorazine.Jobabob said:SouthamObserver said:Do I take it that the liberal media just don't get how Trump has run rings round them once again by being forced to dump his National Security Adviser after just three weeks? I note that he has brilliantly managed to drop his approval rating down to 40% as well. The bloke is a genius.
Yes his genius and besting of the media was there for all to see when he a) created a toothless executive order that invoked the rejection of the judiciary and b) managed to be snapped breaking security protocol by signing official documents with the Japanese PM in an open air restaurant, thus invoking widespread derision from the rest of the world. He really is an absolute Don, the Donald.0 -
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I don't think China would retaliatory strike the USA if Trump was to melt Pyongyang.HYUFD said:
The likelihood of nuclear war with Russia is less than with Hillary but the likelihood of nuclear war with China is higher under TrumpIshmael_Z said:
I think you can afford to stop virtue-signalling on this one. The likelihood of nuclear war in the next four years is, oooh, ten times what it would have been under Hillary. The world therefore divides clearly into those who are anti-Trump, and those in imperative need of straitjackets and thorazine.Jobabob said:SouthamObserver said:Do I take it that the liberal media just don't get how Trump has run rings round them once again by being forced to dump his National Security Adviser after just three weeks? I note that he has brilliantly managed to drop his approval rating down to 40% as well. The bloke is a genius.
Yes his genius and besting of the media was there for all to see when he a) created a toothless executive order that invoked the rejection of the judiciary and b) managed to be snapped breaking security protocol by signing official documents with the Japanese PM in an open air restaurant, thus invoking widespread derision from the rest of the world. He really is an absolute Don, the Donald.
North Korea are seriously pushing it at the moment with their missile tests towards Japan, it is getting towards the point where a first strike by the USA could be well justified.0 -
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A lucky coincidence for the MSM.SouthamObserver said:
What with Flynn resigning just hours after the Washington Post published its story on him and the warnings given to Trump it's almost as if it was that which prompted him to go. Surely not.Jobabob said:SouthamObserver said:Do I take it that the liberal media just don't get how Trump has run rings round them once again by being forced to dump his National Security Adviser after just three weeks? I note that he has brilliantly managed to drop his approval rating down to 40% as well. The bloke is a genius.
Yes his genius and besting of the media was there for all to see when he a) created a toothless executive order that invoked the rejection of the judiciary and b) managed to be snapped breaking security protocol by signing official documents with the Japanese PM in an open air restaurant, thus invoking widespread derision from the rest of the world. He really is an absolute Don, the Donald.0 -
Virtue signalling (v): The act of disagreeing with a PB Leaver on politicalbetting.comBeverley_C said:Virtue signalling (v): The act of popping someone's belief bubble by pointing out the patently obvious
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If I'm thinking a first strike by the USA could be justified then imagine what is going through "Mad Dog"'s head. I wouldn't book a trip to North Korea any time soon !0
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Tensions might rise again though over TaiwanPulpstar said:
I don't think China would retaliatory strike the USA if Trump was to melt Pyongyang.HYUFD said:
The likelihood of nuclear war with Russia is less than with Hillary but the likelihood of nuclear war with China is higher under TrumpIshmael_Z said:
I think you can afford to stop virtue-signalling on this one. The likelihood of nuclear war in the next four years is, oooh, ten times what it would have been under Hillary. The world therefore divides clearly into those who are anti-Trump, and those in imperative need of straitjackets and thorazine.Jobabob said:SouthamObserver said:Do I take it that the liberal media just don't get how Trump has run rings round them once again by being forced to dump his National Security Adviser after just three weeks? I note that he has brilliantly managed to drop his approval rating down to 40% as well. The bloke is a genius.
Yes his genius and besting of the media was there for all to see when he a) created a toothless executive order that invoked the rejection of the judiciary and b) managed to be snapped breaking security protocol by signing official documents with the Japanese PM in an open air restaurant, thus invoking widespread derision from the rest of the world. He really is an absolute Don, the Donald.
North Korea are seriously pushing it at the moment with their missile tests towards Japan, it is getting towards the point where a first strike by the USA could be well justified.0 -
"See, I'm not a monster. I'm just ahead of the curve!" - The Joker, in The Dark Knight (2008).Carolus_Rex said:
I'm ahead of the curve then. I don't give a cr@p already.AlsoIndigo said:
Only on here. After the next GE the public won't give a cr@p, either the tories got kicked out in which case they got their just desserts, or they got re-elected in which case the public decided that the suggestion we might considering spending 350m on the NHS wasnt enough to elect someone else.Carolus_Rex said:Jesus. Are we still going to be having this same bloody argument in 2021?
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A slightly more nuanced positionJobabob said:
Virtue signalling (v): The act of disagreeing with a PB Leaver on politicalbetting.comBeverley_C said:Virtue signalling (v): The act of popping someone's belief bubble by pointing out the patently obvious
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I think China and the USA would de-escalate before it became a nuclear war though. The Chinese aren't stupid, the problem for that region is that North Korea most definitely is stupid.HYUFD said:
Tensions might rise again though over TaiwanPulpstar said:
I don't think China would retaliatory strike the USA if Trump was to melt Pyongyang.HYUFD said:
The likelihood of nuclear war with Russia is less than with Hillary but the likelihood of nuclear war with China is higher under TrumpIshmael_Z said:
I think you can afford to stop virtue-signalling on this one. The likelihood of nuclear war in the next four years is, oooh, ten times what it would have been under Hillary. The world therefore divides clearly into those who are anti-Trump, and those in imperative need of straitjackets and thorazine.Jobabob said:SouthamObserver said:Do I take it that the liberal media just don't get how Trump has run rings round them once again by being forced to dump his National Security Adviser after just three weeks? I note that he has brilliantly managed to drop his approval rating down to 40% as well. The bloke is a genius.
Yes his genius and besting of the media was there for all to see when he a) created a toothless executive order that invoked the rejection of the judiciary and b) managed to be snapped breaking security protocol by signing official documents with the Japanese PM in an open air restaurant, thus invoking widespread derision from the rest of the world. He really is an absolute Don, the Donald.
North Korea are seriously pushing it at the moment with their missile tests towards Japan, it is getting towards the point where a first strike by the USA could be well justified.0 -
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A slightly more nuanced positionJobabob said:
Virtue signalling (v): The act of disagreeing with a PB Leaver on politicalbetting.comBeverley_C said:Virtue signalling (v): The act of popping someone's belief bubble by pointing out the patently obvious
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Voting REMAIN in last year's referendum is the epitome of virtue signalling in this virtue signalling world of oursJobabob said:
Virtue signalling (v): The act of disagreeing with a PB Leaver on politicalbetting.comBeverley_C said:Virtue signalling (v): The act of popping someone's belief bubble by pointing out the patently obvious
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How to wind up the left: agree with them about something. It's like the "Gentleman doesn't want to 'aggle" bit in Life of Brian.0
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Here's your chance to have your say:
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2017/feb/13/how-did-the-global-womens-marches-affect-you
Somehow, I don't think 'Not in the slightest bit' is the answer they're fishing for.0 -
They may well. By-elections are an excellent, largely cost-free opportunity to kick the government. They're also an opportunity to kick others. However, that 'cost-free' point may be critical. There is no risk to Sellafield if Labour win because the Tories will still be in government. Labour's negative campaign, by contrast, has more meaning for the obvious reason that the Conservatives can do something about local health services, and can make a decision this year.SouthamObserver said:Stephen Bush says Labour may hold on in Copeland:
http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/elections/2017/02/who-will-win-copeland-election
That dynamic wouldn't carry over to a general election and in a GE, I'd expect a Con win in Copeland if Corbyn remains Labour leader. But this isn't a general election and while it might be fun for some to kick Labour given the state they're in, there's more value to kicking the Tories.0 -
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You would hope so. If North Korea sent a missile to Japan the Trump administration would certainly respond forcefully I agreePulpstar said:
I think China and the USA would de-escalate before it became a nuclear war though. The Chinese aren't stupid, the problem for that region is that North Korea most definitely is stupid.HYUFD said:
Tensions might rise again though over TaiwanPulpstar said:
I don't think China would retaliatory strike the USA if Trump was to melt Pyongyang.HYUFD said:
The likelihood of nuclear war with Russia is less than with Hillary but the likelihood of nuclear war with China is higher under TrumpIshmael_Z said:
I think you can afford to stop virtue-signalling on this one. The likelihood of nuclear war in the next four years is, oooh, ten times what it would have been under Hillary. The world therefore divides clearly into those who are anti-Trump, and those in imperative need of straitjackets and thorazine.Jobabob said:SouthamObserver said:Do I take it that the liberal media just don't get how Trump has run rings round them once again by being forced to dump his National Security Adviser after just three weeks? I note that he has brilliantly managed to drop his approval rating down to 40% as well. The bloke is a genius.
Yes his genius and besting of the media was there for all to see when he a) created a toothless executive order that invoked the rejection of the judiciary and b) managed to be snapped breaking security protocol by signing official documents with the Japanese PM in an open air restaurant, thus invoking widespread derision from the rest of the world. He really is an absolute Don, the Donald.
North Korea are seriously pushing it at the moment with their missile tests towards Japan, it is getting towards the point where a first strike by the USA could be well justified.0 -
And if you make it as far as Abu Simbel there are three of them, a hell of a lot more than life sized.Ishmael_Z said:
I've met him. Or more precisely I have seen his mummified corpse in Cairo.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Rex, Ramses.
On the basis he's the only one I've heard of. I do know he lived so long all his children died before him, and when he did die everyone had forgotten how the ceremony of making a new pharaoh was meant to go.
One thing about him is, that poem Ozymandias is about him - there's a fallen down statue of him in Egyptian Thebes (Luxor) - and the poem is therefore complete bollocks, because you still can't walk 100 yards in Egypt without coming across yet another 100x life size statue of the bastard.
He had a bigger ego than Trump. Though possibly not as big as Bercow.0 -
As a lifelong admirer of Ron and Maggie's battle against the Kremlin, it makes me weep that Owen Jones, with some legitimacy,can now hijack that noblest of causes on behalf of the British far Left:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/feb/14/michael-flynn-vladimir-putin-populist-right-europe
This must be how the old socialists of yore felt, when so many of their number went grovelling to Stalin.0 -
A spoof Trumpite poster attacking fake news is a meta-spoof! Bravo!PlatoSaid said:And more fake news - it's getting absurd now.
I saw this supposed twitter account and immediately thought fake. An ITV journalist retweeted cobblers from Rogue White House as a potential source. They've lost their minds
Gabriel Malor
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Would "yer what?" do?Richard_Nabavi said:Here's your chance to have your say:
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2017/feb/13/how-did-the-global-womens-marches-affect-you
Somehow, I don't think 'Not in the slightest bit' is the answer they're fishing for.0 -
It's a lot more likely than that. 0.1% implies one nuclear war every 4000 years. I'd suggest that North Korea's actions alone run a much greater risk than that (not to mention the other nuclear powers).Charles said:
I suspect it is A HUNDRED times more likely! It has moved from 0.001% to 0.1%Ishmael_Z said:
I think you can afford to stop virtue-signalling on this one. The likelihood of nuclear war in the next four years is, oooh, ten times what it would have been under Hillary. The world therefore divides clearly into those who are anti-Trump, and those in imperative need of straitjackets and thorazine.Jobabob said:SouthamObserver said:Do I take it that the liberal media just don't get how Trump has run rings round them once again by being forced to dump his National Security Adviser after just three weeks? I note that he has brilliantly managed to drop his approval rating down to 40% as well. The bloke is a genius.
Yes his genius and besting of the media was there for all to see when he a) created a toothless executive order that invoked the rejection of the judiciary and b) managed to be snapped breaking security protocol by signing official documents with the Japanese PM in an open air restaurant, thus invoking widespread derision from the rest of the world. He really is an absolute Don, the Donald.0 -
From the phoning I have done Copeland is neck and neck, even if Labour win their majority will be down. It will be Brexit and nuclear power v the NHSdavid_herdson said:
They may well. By-elections are an excellent, largely cost-free opportunity to kick the government. They're also an opportunity to kick others. However, that 'cost-free' point may be critical. There is no risk to Sellafield if Labour win because the Tories will still be in government. Labour's negative campaign, by contrast, has more meaning for the obvious reason that the Conservatives can do something about local health services, and can make a decision this year.SouthamObserver said:Stephen Bush says Labour may hold on in Copeland:
http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/elections/2017/02/who-will-win-copeland-election
That dynamic wouldn't carry over to a general election and in a GE, I'd expect a Con win in Copeland if Corbyn remains Labour leader. But this isn't a general election and while it might be fun for some to kick Labour given the state they're in, there's more value to kicking the Tories.0 -
The original statue supposedly bears an inscription which is approximates to "King of Kings am I, Ozymandias. If anyone would know how great I am and where I lie, let him surpass one of my works." Shelley was probably commenting these pretensions and how little there was left to show of it, presumably he never visited EgyptIshmael_Z said:
I've met him. Or more precisely I have seen his mummified corpse in Cairo.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Rex, Ramses.
On the basis he's the only one I've heard of. I do know he lived so long all his children died before him, and when he did die everyone had forgotten how the ceremony of making a new pharaoh was meant to go.
One thing about him is, that poem Ozymandias is about him - there's a fallen down statue of him in Egyptian Thebes (Luxor) - and the poem is therefore complete bollocks, because you still can't walk 100 yards in Egypt without coming across yet another 100x life size statue of the bastard. 0 -
Haven't you already agreed with the left in noting how the Nazis were keen to come together with and help their Jewish citizens leave Germany. Before Hitler went a bit mad, of course, that is.Ishmael_Z said:How to wind up the left: agree with them about something. It's like the "Gentleman doesn't want to 'aggle" bit in Life of Brian.
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Don't think so - until PRK gets nukes themselves.david_herdson said:
It's a lot more likely than that. 0.1% implies one nuclear war every 4000 years. I'd suggest that North Korea's actions alone run a much greater risk than that (not to mention the other nuclear powers).Charles said:
I suspect it is A HUNDRED times more likely! It has moved from 0.001% to 0.1%Ishmael_Z said:
I think you can afford to stop virtue-signalling on this one. The likelihood of nuclear war in the next four years is, oooh, ten times what it would have been under Hillary. The world therefore divides clearly into those who are anti-Trump, and those in imperative need of straitjackets and thorazine.Jobabob said:SouthamObserver said:Do I take it that the liberal media just don't get how Trump has run rings round them once again by being forced to dump his National Security Adviser after just three weeks? I note that he has brilliantly managed to drop his approval rating down to 40% as well. The bloke is a genius.
Yes his genius and besting of the media was there for all to see when he a) created a toothless executive order that invoked the rejection of the judiciary and b) managed to be snapped breaking security protocol by signing official documents with the Japanese PM in an open air restaurant, thus invoking widespread derision from the rest of the world. He really is an absolute Don, the Donald.
At the moment China will roll them over in 48 hours if there is any serious risk of thinks spiraling out of control.
If PRK gets nukes (and the capability to deliver them) then all bets are off...0 -
On which subject, how many survivors are there of those who attended the last British coronation in person? It's a good job it was all televised.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Rex, Ramses.
On the basis he's the only one I've heard of. I do know he lived so long all his children died before him, and when he did die everyone had forgotten how the ceremony of making a new pharaoh was meant to go.0 -
https://twitter.com/thatdutchperson/status/827283588752171008Ishmael_Z said:
Mind you, as I sit out my final hours glowing in the dark there will be a small part of me saying "in your face, Hillary".SouthamObserver said:
I enjoyed you signalling what you consider to be your no bullshit, straight talking virtues there.Ishmael_Z said:
I think you can afford to stop virtue-signalling on this one. The likelihood of nuclear war in the next four years is, oooh, ten times what it would have been under Hillary. The world therefore divides clearly into those who are anti-Trump, and those in imperative need of straitjackets and thorazine.Jobabob said:SouthamObserver said:Do I take it that the liberal media just don't get how Trump has run rings round them once again by being forced to dump his National Security Adviser after just three weeks? I note that he has brilliantly managed to drop his approval rating down to 40% as well. The bloke is a genius.
Yes his genius and besting of the media was there for all to see when he a) created a toothless executive order that invoked the rejection of the judiciary and b) managed to be snapped breaking security protocol by signing official documents with the Japanese PM in an open air restaurant, thus invoking widespread derision from the rest of the world. He really is an absolute Don, the Donald.0 -
PB Tory 'virtue signalling' is proving that Merkel is the anti-Christ because she took in refugees. When this left normal people scratching their heads they then set about proving that the refugees were 1. criminal 2. rapists 3 sexual molesters 4. adults pretending to be children. All of which proved that they weren't heartless bastards but people with a heart who cared about the Germans.Jobabob said:
Virtue signalling (v): The act of disagreeing with a PB Leaver on politicalbetting.comBeverley_C said:Virtue signalling (v): The act of popping someone's belief bubble by pointing out the patently obvious
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Just got matched backing the Lib Dems at 70 on Betfair
If the people who think they are a 30% chance mean it, there can be no way they are 70. I can only decipher they don't really mean it0 -
Say what you like about the crazy North Koreans but they certainly come up with ingenius ways of bumping people off don't they?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/02/14/kim-jong-uns-older-brother-killed-north-korean-spies-poison1/0 -
The PB subtitles that you can't switch off are back I see0
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VIRTUE SIGNALLING! VIRTUE SIGNALLING! DO NOT MISS OUT! GET SOME LURVLY VIRTUE SIGNALLING HERE!!!!Sunil_Prasannan said:
Voting REMAIN in last year's referendum is the epitome of virtue signalling in this virtue signalling world of oursJobabob said:
Virtue signalling (v): The act of disagreeing with a PB Leaver on politicalbetting.comBeverley_C said:Virtue signalling (v): The act of popping someone's belief bubble by pointing out the patently obvious
No Sunil - Voting REMAIN was the epitome of common sense. One does not get better trading with one's biggest markets by telling them to get lost!
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No, they were trying to expel them, not help them; but in the special case of expulsion where the specific aim was to send them to Palestine, their intention could be called (extremely unhelpfully, as I said at the time) Zionist. And Hitler was mad from the start, he expressly advocated genocide of the Jews as early as Mein Kampf (1925).TOPPING said:
Haven't you already agreed with the left in noting how the Nazis were keen to come together with and help their Jewish citizens leave Germany. Before Hitler went a bit mad, of course, that is.Ishmael_Z said:How to wind up the left: agree with them about something. It's like the "Gentleman doesn't want to 'aggle" bit in Life of Brian.
So I don't see what your point is.0 -
No, they're not stupid; they're reckless. It's a different thing.Pulpstar said:
I think China and the USA would de-escalate before it became a nuclear war though. The Chinese aren't stupid, the problem for that region is that North Korea most definitely is stupid.HYUFD said:
Tensions might rise again though over TaiwanPulpstar said:
I don't think China would retaliatory strike the USA if Trump was to melt Pyongyang.HYUFD said:
The likelihood of nuclear war with Russia is less than with Hillary but the likelihood of nuclear war with China is higher under TrumpIshmael_Z said:
I think you can afford to stop virtue-signalling on this one. The likelihood of nuclear war in the next four years is, oooh, ten times what it would have been under Hillary. The world therefore divides clearly into those who are anti-Trump, and those in imperative need of straitjackets and thorazine.Jobabob said:SouthamObserver said:Do I take it that the liberal media just don't get how Trump has run rings round them once again by being forced to dump his National Security Adviser after just three weeks? I note that he has brilliantly managed to drop his approval rating down to 40% as well. The bloke is a genius.
Yes his genius and besting of the media was there for all to see when he a) created a toothless executive order that invoked the rejection of the judiciary and b) managed to be snapped breaking security protocol by signing official documents with the Japanese PM in an open air restaurant, thus invoking widespread derision from the rest of the world. He really is an absolute Don, the Donald.
North Korea are seriously pushing it at the moment with their missile tests towards Japan, it is getting towards the point where a first strike by the USA could be well justified.0 -
In the event of nuclear war which of TSE and OGH is the designated survivor in the PB nuclear bunker?david_herdson said:
It's a lot more likely than that. 0.1% implies one nuclear war every 4000 years. I'd suggest that North Korea's actions alone run a much greater risk than that (not to mention the other nuclear powers).Charles said:
I suspect it is A HUNDRED times more likely! It has moved from 0.001% to 0.1%Ishmael_Z said:
I think you can afford to stop virtue-signalling on this one. The likelihood of nuclear war in the next four years is, oooh, ten times what it would have been under Hillary. The world therefore divides clearly into those who are anti-Trump, and those in imperative need of straitjackets and thorazine.Jobabob said:SouthamObserver said:Do I take it that the liberal media just don't get how Trump has run rings round them once again by being forced to dump his National Security Adviser after just three weeks? I note that he has brilliantly managed to drop his approval rating down to 40% as well. The bloke is a genius.
Yes his genius and besting of the media was there for all to see when he a) created a toothless executive order that invoked the rejection of the judiciary and b) managed to be snapped breaking security protocol by signing official documents with the Japanese PM in an open air restaurant, thus invoking widespread derision from the rest of the world. He really is an absolute Don, the Donald.0 -
Seems some lefties don't agreeBeverley_C said:Virtue signalling (v): The act of popping someone's belief bubble by pointing out the patently obvious
http://www.newstatesman.com/helen-lewis/2015/07/echo-chamber-social-media-luring-left-cosy-delusion-and-dangerous-insularity0 -
What is going to be the impact on the Copeland by-election from the Toshiba troubles? They are the majority owner of the proposed nuclear powersite at Moorside and they are looking to dispose of their interests.
Will we see some Government action over the next few days to facilitate a solution, perhaps bringing in a South Korean nuclear company?0 -
Someone earlier in this thread. Said they were on at 40s and thought it was 30% chancePulpstar said:
Blimey, who has given them a 30% chance ?isam said:Just got matched backing the Lib Dems at 70 on Betfair
If the people who think they are a 30% chance mean it, there can be no way they are 70. I can only decipher they don't really mean it
I think it is maybe 3% or so.
Probably the person who laid me 70!!!0 -
I doubt they are a 30 percent chance. Pretty sure that with a very low turnout that 70 is a humongous price.isam said:Just got matched backing the Lib Dems at 70 on Betfair
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They have atomic bombs because they've tested them. Whether they're capable of being fitted to a missile is unknown. That they're not full H-bombs is beside the point: they'd still do devastating damage to S Korea before the US and/or China put an end to it - and it'd still be a nuclear exchange.Charles said:
Don't think so - until PRK gets nukes themselves.david_herdson said:
It's a lot more likely than that. 0.1% implies one nuclear war every 4000 years. I'd suggest that North Korea's actions alone run a much greater risk than that (not to mention the other nuclear powers).Charles said:
I suspect it is A HUNDRED times more likely! It has moved from 0.001% to 0.1%Ishmael_Z said:
I think you can afford to stop virtue-signalling on this one. The likelihood of nuclear war in the next four years is, oooh, ten times what it would have been under Hillary. The world therefore divides clearly into those who are anti-Trump, and those in imperative need of straitjackets and thorazine.Jobabob said:SouthamObserver said:Do I take it that the liberal media just don't get how Trump has run rings round them once again by being forced to dump his National Security Adviser after just three weeks? I note that he has brilliantly managed to drop his approval rating down to 40% as well. The bloke is a genius.
Yes his genius and besting of the media was there for all to see when he a) created a toothless executive order that invoked the rejection of the judiciary and b) managed to be snapped breaking security protocol by signing official documents with the Japanese PM in an open air restaurant, thus invoking widespread derision from the rest of the world. He really is an absolute Don, the Donald.
At the moment China will roll them over in 48 hours if there is any serious risk of thinks spiraling out of control.
If PRK gets nukes (and the capability to deliver them) then all bets are off...0 -
Choose life, choose a blog, choose a Korea. Choose a step-family. Choose a f*cking big Twitter hashtag, choose energy-efficient washing machines, hybrid cars, the latest smart-phones and MP3 players. Choose good Bake-off recipes, choose organic produce, and mental health insurance. Choose the Help-to-Buy Scheme. Choose a matchbox-sized flat in central London. Choose your Facebook friends. Choose a budget flight on Ryanair and the meagre amount of luggage they let you take on board. Choose a snazzy shell-suit from Primark in a range of f*cking fabrics. Choose cordless DIY tools and wondering who the f*ck Andrew Marr's guests are on Sunday mornings. Choose sitting on that couch watching mind-numbing, spirit-crushing Reality TV shows, stuffing f*cking take-away food you ordered by mobile app. Choose rotting away at the end of it all, pissing your last in a badly-run old-people's home, nothing more than an embarrassment to the selfish, f*cked up social justice warriors you spawned to replace yourselves. Choose your future. Choose life... But why would I want to do a thing like that? I chose not to choose life. I chose somethin' else. And the reasons? There are no reasons. Who needs reasons when you've got Politicalbetting.com!Pulpstar said:
I think China and the USA would de-escalate before it became a nuclear war though. The Chinese aren't stupid, the problem for that region is that North Korea most definitely is stupid.HYUFD said:
Tensions might rise again though over TaiwanPulpstar said:
I don't think China would retaliatory strike the USA if Trump was to melt Pyongyang.HYUFD said:
The likelihood of nuclear war with Russia is less than with Hillary but the likelihood of nuclear war with China is higher under TrumpIshmael_Z said:
I think you can afford to stop virtue-signalling on this one. The likelihood of nuclear war in the next four years is, oooh, ten times what it would have been under Hillary. The world therefore divides clearly into those who are anti-Trump, and those in imperative need of straitjackets and thorazine.Jobabob said:SouthamObserver said:Do I take it that the liberal media just don't get how Trump has run rings round them once again by being forced to dump his National Security Adviser after just three weeks? I note that he has brilliantly managed to drop his approval rating down to 40% as well. The bloke is a genius.
North Korea are seriously pushing it at the moment with their missile tests towards Japan, it is getting towards the point where a first strike by the USA could be well justified.0 -
I wouldn't say "definitely"; They've been playing the Crazy Fearsome Cripple Gambit successfully, and they wisely got themselves nuclear weapons in time to avoid going the way of Saddam and Gaddafi. They probably rational and deterrable, but you can't quite be sure.Pulpstar said:
I think China and the USA would de-escalate before it became a nuclear war though. The Chinese aren't stupid, the problem for that region is that North Korea most definitely is stupid.0 -
Whichever gets there first, of course.HYUFD said:In the event of nuclear war which of TSE and OGH is the designated survivor in the PB nuclear bunker?
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Its just possible that 52% of the public didn't consider the short term economy to be the most important thing in their lives, even considering the bullshit of the treasury report and punishment budget. Yelling at them that their actions don't make economic sense wont get you very far.Beverley_C said:No Sunil - Voting REMAIN was the epitome of common sense. One does not get better trading with one's biggest markets by telling them to get lost!
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3% is still near-enough double the 69/1 that isam got.Pulpstar said:
Blimey, who has given them a 30% chance ?isam said:Just got matched backing the Lib Dems at 70 on Betfair
If the people who think they are a 30% chance mean it, there can be no way they are 70. I can only decipher they don't really mean it
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70 is a great price. I've had a pints worth earlier at 55midwinter said:
I doubt they are a 30 percent chance. Pretty sure that with a very low turnout that 70 is a humongous price.isam said:Just got matched backing the Lib Dems at 70 on Betfair
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Well, it usually started with a bit of incest, I believe.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Rex, Ramses.
On the basis he's the only one I've heard of. I do know he lived so long all his children died before him, and when he did die everyone had forgotten how the ceremony of making a new pharaoh was meant to go.
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Abu Simbel is beyond comprehension, until you see it. Moving it was even more amazing.Carolus_Rex said:
And if you make it as far as Abu Simbel there are three of them, a hell of a lot more than life sized.Ishmael_Z said:
I've met him. Or more precisely I have seen his mummified corpse in Cairo.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Rex, Ramses.
On the basis he's the only one I've heard of. I do know he lived so long all his children died before him, and when he did die everyone had forgotten how the ceremony of making a new pharaoh was meant to go.
One thing about him is, that poem Ozymandias is about him - there's a fallen down statue of him in Egyptian Thebes (Luxor) - and the poem is therefore complete bollocks, because you still can't walk 100 yards in Egypt without coming across yet another 100x life size statue of the bastard.
He had a bigger ego than Trump. Though possibly not as big as Bercow.
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The Stoke by-election is the ultimate race to the bottom. Maybe the Yellow Peril will indeed come through the middle!Scott_P said:0 -
Recklessness is a form of stupidity.david_herdson said:
No, they're not stupid; they're reckless. It's a different thing.Pulpstar said:
I think China and the USA would de-escalate before it became a nuclear war though. The Chinese aren't stupid, the problem for that region is that North Korea most definitely is stupid.HYUFD said:
Tensions might rise again though over TaiwanPulpstar said:
I don't think China would retaliatory strike the USA if Trump was to melt Pyongyang.HYUFD said:
The likelihood of nuclear war with Russia is less than with Hillary but the likelihood of nuclear war with China is higher under TrumpIshmael_Z said:
I think you can afford to stop virtue-signalling on this one. The likelihood of nuclear war in the next four years is, oooh, ten times what it would have been under Hillary. The world therefore divides clearly into those who are anti-Trump, and those in imperative need of straitjackets and thorazine.Jobabob said:SouthamObserver said:Do I take it that the liberal media just don't get how Trump has run rings round them once again by being forced to dump his National Security Adviser after just three weeks? I note that he has brilliantly managed to drop his approval rating down to 40% as well. The bloke is a genius.
Yes his genius and besting of the media was there for all to see when he a) created a toothless executive order that invoked the rejection of the judiciary and b) managed to be snapped breaking security protocol by signing official documents with the Japanese PM in an open air restaurant, thus invoking widespread derision from the rest of the world. He really is an absolute Don, the Donald.
North Korea are seriously pushing it at the moment with their missile tests towards Japan, it is getting towards the point where a first strike by the USA could be well justified.0 -
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Whichever gets there first, of course.HYUFD said:In the event of nuclear war which of TSE and OGH is the designated survivor in the PB nuclear bunker?
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China are the ones holding North Korea back from using nukes, not the US. The US deters them from launching a conventional attack on South Korea.david_herdson said:
They have atomic bombs because they've tested them. Whether they're capable of being fitted to a missile is unknown. That they're not full H-bombs is beside the point: they'd still do devastating damage to S Korea before the US and/or China put an end to it - and it'd still be a nuclear exchange.Charles said:
Don't think so - until PRK gets nukes themselves.david_herdson said:
It's a lot more likely than that. 0.1% implies one nuclear war every 4000 years. I'd suggest that North Korea's actions alone run a much greater risk than that (not to mention the other nuclear powers).Charles said:
I suspect it is A HUNDRED times more likely! It has moved from 0.001% to 0.1%Ishmael_Z said:
I think you can afford to stop virtue-signalling on this one. The likelihood of nuclear war in the next four years is, oooh, ten times what it would have been under Hillary. The world therefore divides clearly into those who are anti-Trump, and those in imperative need of straitjackets and thorazine.Jobabob said:SouthamObserver said:Do I take it that the liberal media just don't get how Trump has run rings round them once again by being forced to dump his National Security Adviser after just three weeks? I note that he has brilliantly managed to drop his approval rating down to 40% as well. The bloke is a genius.
Yes his genius and besting of the media was there for all to see when he a) created a toothless executive order that invoked the rejection of the judiciary and b) managed to be snapped breaking security protocol by signing official documents with the Japanese PM in an open air restaurant, thus invoking widespread derision from the rest of the world. He really is an absolute Don, the Donald.
At the moment China will roll them over in 48 hours if there is any serious risk of thinks spiraling out of control.
If PRK gets nukes (and the capability to deliver them) then all bets are off...
If PRK were ever so reckless as to try that I expect China would very quickly sort it out, even if they have little love for South Korea.
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I think that not enough people yet think it is winnable for the Lib Dems to come through to win, at least at the moment, but on the ground I do hear that "the signs are encouraging".Jobabob said:
The Stoke by-election is the ultimate race to the bottom. Maybe the Yellow Peril will indeed come through the middle!Scott_P said:0
