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  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    Sandpit said:

    Would you agree, as a clinician, that the arbitrary 4 hour target can have a negative impact on other aspects of care?

    It seems to me - watching from afar - that it's something the politicians and managers want to talk about, so the priorities on the grind are skewed towards meeting the target rather than prioritisation by absolute clinical need.
    There is risk of that, or to continue my canary in a coalmine analogy, giving the canary oxygen does not help the miners!
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 55,179

    It is strongly correlated, for example in this very large Australian study:

    https://www.mja.com.au/journal/2016/204/9/national-emergency-access-target-neat-and-4-hour-rule-time-review-target

    I suspect that it is correlation rather than causation, with both measures being different ways of measuring the strain on a system. The 4 hr target is the canary in a coalmine.
    Thanks. As I said, really interesting.
  • Cambridge University Tory student who taunted a freezing homeless person by setting fire to a £20 note in front of him.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4208432/Cambridge-student-sets-fire-20-note-homeless-person.html

    Many students do things they regret whilst drunk. I just find the focus on the homeless or poor distasteful. Putting a penis in a pigs head is one thing, taunting a vulnerable individual down on their luck is just lower than low.

    Given the family link, is he a Cambridge University Nat Tory? ;)
  • RogerRoger Posts: 20,447
    Ishmael_Z said:

    Except there aren't any losers, because absolutely no one that we know of has ever wanted Trump to be invited to address Parliament in the first place. I suppose there is an outside chance that he had got wind of a conspiracy to make such an invitation and thought he would get his retaliation in first, but I highly doubt it because it would be utterly insane to want Trump to do this. The reality is that Bercow is a fantasist, and this is him being John Hampden (or Walter Mitty facing the firing squad).
    Or perhaps he just felt he wanted to make it known that we our parliament unlike our government was not going to cravenly roll over in front of this vulgarian's inappropriate behaviour. Quite an effective hit to nothing and a gesture that will be noted and appreciated by most of our allies and one which should stand us in good stead for our future relationships
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 55,179

    Given the family link, is he a Cambridge University Nat Tory? ;)
    I was looking for an "n". That will do.
  • DavidL said:

    I just don't know what she did. She was very pretty, sexy, clearly knew how to have a very good time, overindulged in drugs, damaged her health and died all too early. I have no desire to speak ill of the dead at all but she was a star at the sort of parties I (and 99% of the population) am never going to be invited to. Other than that, I don't know why she was famous.
    You have to go back a couple of decades to appreciate the media fascination with ‘IT’ girls. They were, as Evelyn Waugh once described those of another era, ‘the bright young things’, famous for being famous and in the case of TPT, terribly well connected.
  • Any ETA for the vote on the Speaker?

    Not before Monday 20th, the House has risen for the half-term recess.
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    kle4 said:

    Richard Plunkett-Ernle-Erle-Drax
    These days you have to look at the number of middle names (three in total is optimal, with more than that being vulgar).

    For instance I am Charles [mother's Irish family surname] (son of) [father's first name] [father's family name]
  • Mr. Quidder, ah. Thanks, although that's a long wait. Probably harms rather than hinders the Speaker as it gives what I'd guess is a relatively small opposition (ahem) time to try and increase its strength.

    Anyway, must be off.
  • CD13CD13 Posts: 6,378
    Mr Meeks,

    "There are two positions, both partisan. It would be perverse to choose the position of the minority."

    Sorry, didn't you choose Remain?

    You're entitled to choose what you will, and now that the deed is done, I hope we will see the usual even-tempered Mr Antifrank back.
  • The_TaxmanThe_Taxman Posts: 2,979
    edited February 2017
    DavidL said:

    I was looking for an "n". That will do.
    This one is definitely a Tory as he is a Cllr: He said Diane Abbott looked like an Ape!

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/02/09/diane-abbott-tells-brexit-minister-f-attempts-kiss-commons-bar/
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,022
    edited February 2017

    There is risk of that, or to continue my canary in a coalmine analogy, giving the canary oxygen does not help the miners!
    LOL, in my 'almost midnight' state I have a vision of a small bird wearing an O2 mask ;)

    Unfortunately these things are rather complicated in the real world, and involve a lot of people. One can only hope that things continue to work out for the best on the ground, as things get discussed at higher levels about the future.
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    DavidL said:

    Is it? That's interesting because my perception is that the 4 hour target had been largely plucked out of the air by a politician in the last Labour government based more on what could be aimed for and what people would accept. If I am wrong in that it would be interesting to see the evidence.

    The success of the NHS generally, and your trust in particular, in overcoming MRSA type superbugs which at one point were going to kill us all seems to me one of the bigger successes of the NHS in recent years. And much underplayed.
    Preventable hospital-acquired infections are one of the most important metrics in my view
  • Meanwhile, Ed Miliband continues to keep himself busy:

    https://twitter.com/ed_miliband/status/829760433661833216
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    DavidL said:

    I just don't know what she did. She was very pretty, sexy, clearly knew how to have a very good time, overindulged in drugs, damaged her health and died all too early. I have no desire to speak ill of the dead at all but she was a star at the sort of parties I (and 99% of the population) am never going to be invited to. Other than that, I don't know why she was famous.
    My Mum once asked Paris Hilton's Dad what she did. He was not happy...
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,022
    Charles said:

    My Mum once asked Paris Hilton's Dad what she did. He was not happy...
    Didn't she star in a 'movie'? I'm sure her parents were very proud of her.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1_Night_in_Paris
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 79,224
    Charles said:

    My Mum once asked Paris Hilton's Dad what she did. He was not happy...
    Succesful 'movie' career.
  • Michael Savage ‏@michaelsavage 10m10 minutes ago

    Jon Trickett axed as Labour campaigns co-ordinator. What does that say about expectations for the by-elections coming in Copeland and Stoke?
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 30,807
    DavidL said:

    I just don't know what she did. She was very pretty, sexy, clearly knew how to have a very good time, overindulged in drugs, damaged her health and died all too early. I have no desire to speak ill of the dead at all but she was a star at the sort of parties I (and 99% of the population) am never going to be invited to. Other than that, I don't know why she was famous.
    She originally found fame by being photographed kissing Prince Charles (old family friends). At the time she came to prominence, the press wanted posh totty 'it girls'. Right person, right time.
  • RogerRoger Posts: 20,447
    Th Telegraph has spent the last 10 months relentlessly trying to prove that Europe without Britain is going to Hell in a handcart. Quite why when it was the UK's choice-we weren't expelled-is hard to fathom. Something in the right wing psyche means anything other than their way must be the wrong way.

    Reading some of the character assassinations of Barack Obama and even his wife on right wing sites even though he's retired is something to behold
  • maaarshmaaarsh Posts: 3,592
    Would there be a by-election or do the people of Buckingham get a Labour MP for 3 years?
  • JobabobJobabob Posts: 3,807
    The whole point of It Girls was that they were famous for being famous.

    Sad about Tara. She always struck me as a hell of a lot of fun and very likeable. RIP.
  • Chris_AChris_A Posts: 1,237
    Charles said:

    These days you have to look at the number of middle names (three in total is optimal, with more than that being vulgar).

    For instance I am Charles [mother's Irish family surname] (son of) [father's first name] [father's family name]
    The Anstuther-Gough-Calthorpes own quite a bit of land in this part of the world.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 76,695
    Trumpland:
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/18/jack-kingston-school-lunch_n_4467711.html
    Rep. Jack Kingston Proposes That Poor Students Sweep Floors In Exchange For Lunch
  • JobabobJobabob Posts: 3,807

    Meanwhile, Ed Miliband continues to keep himself busy:

    https://twitter.com/ed_miliband/status/829760433661833216

    Far be it from me to suggest you are talking up your own book Alastair!

    (Meanwhile I note that Ed is calling for an inquiry - okay, revisiting one)
  • Beverley_CBeverley_C Posts: 6,256
    Nigelb said:

    Trumpland:
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/18/jack-kingston-school-lunch_n_4467711.html
    Rep. Jack Kingston Proposes That Poor Students Sweep Floors In Exchange For Lunch

    I am not a defender of Trump or the US... but that article is 4 years old
  • JobabobJobabob Posts: 3,807
    This outrage over Bercow. Is this where we are supposed to suggest people are clambering on the outrage bus and virtue signalling? Let the lefties know!
  • Nigelb said:

    Trumpland:
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/18/jack-kingston-school-lunch_n_4467711.html
    Rep. Jack Kingston Proposes That Poor Students Sweep Floors In Exchange For Lunch

    It's hard to argue with his spokesman's statement: “It is sad that trying to have a productive conversation about instilling a strong work ethic in the next generation of Americans so quickly devolves into the usual name-calling partisan hysteria."

    But it's a dumb idea on the face of it. From someone who endorsed Ted Cruz.
  • FloaterFloater Posts: 14,207
    RobD said:

    Did he have to have a public position on the matter?
    No, he did not. The man is a narcissistic muppet with small man syndrome.
  • Beverley_CBeverley_C Posts: 6,256

    It's hard to argue with his spokesman's statement: “It is sad that trying to have a productive conversation about instilling a strong work ethic in the next generation of Americans so quickly devolves into the usual name-calling partisan hysteria."

    But it's a dumb idea on the face of it. From someone who endorsed Ted Cruz.
    It is a dumb idea, but anyone who endorses Ted Cruz cannot be the sharpest knife in the drawer.
  • Beverley_CBeverley_C Posts: 6,256
    Jobabob said:

    The whole point of It Girls was that they were famous for being famous.

    Sad about Tara. She always struck me as a hell of a lot of fun and very likeable. RIP.

    I am an IT girl. I have worked in IT for far too long and I am definitely not famous. :)
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,937
    Roger said:

    Th Telegraph has spent the last 10 months relentlessly trying to prove that Europe without Britain is going to Hell in a handcart. Quite why when it was the UK's choice-we weren't expelled-is hard to fathom. Something in the right wing psyche means anything other than their way must be the wrong way.

    Reading some of the character assassinations of Barack Obama and even his wife on right wing sites even though he's retired is something to behold
    Quite! And there is no evidence the centre is collapsing in France. Le Pen has remained relatively stable in the polls whilst her rivals have ebbed and flowed. The Telegraph has gone seriously downhill in the last year or so.
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    scotslass said:

    The Scots NHS is performing better than England in the key measurements. Current A@E performance England 82 per cent , current Scottish performance 93 per cent. Most fundamental is sustainability. English Trusts are mired in debt, Scottish Boards have comparatively minor issues.

    Because Scotland has £1700 more per head to spend thanks to Barnett?
  • chestnutchestnut Posts: 7,341
    edited February 2017
    In the last 40 years the Scottish population has barely increased. Meanwhile, there are 10 million extra people in England.

    The 300,000 that keep coming every year are overwhelmingly coming to England as well.

    That is bound to have a specific impact on England. More resources need to be given to it.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 54,196
    DavidL said:

    I have not seen any evidence that an address to Parliament was even discussed before Bercow's outburst. A state visit does not necessarily include such an event. Lord Fowler was pretty clear the question had not even arisen.
    IIRC correctly, on the basis of past state visits, the invitation for the visit comes first, then the various events are scheduled (or not as the case may be). It isn't a package holiday,
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,784
    edited February 2017

    IIRC correctly, on the basis of past state visits, the invitation for the visit comes first, then the various events are scheduled (or not as the case may be). It isn't a package holiday,
    I wonder if he'll get an invitaion to address the Scottish Parliament ?
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