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Sandpit said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Sandpit said:

Scott_P said:

@BBCJonSopel: Extraordinary. Sen Blumenthal says Judge #Gorsuch explicitly wanted his concerns about @realDonaldTrump attacks on judiciary made public

Is there a market on Gorsuch being confirmed, then overturning Trump's ban (and maybe some other stuff) ?

Judges have always complained about politicians, and vice Versace.

The GOP in the Senate are more than happy with Gorsuch as an SC nominee, is it actually possible for his nomination to be rescinded at this stage?

Vice Versace is an awesome typo

Indeed so. Damn you, iPad autocorrect.

It is the most frustrating about owning an iPad/iPhone, their auto-correct doesn't seem to recognise Latin as a language.

Alanbrooke said:

Beverley_C said:

PlatoSaid said:

How racist

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-02-09/paris-to-build-barrier-around-eiffel-tower-to-counter-terrorism

Racist????

I grew up in Belfast when the whole city centre was ringed by a barrier to counter terrorism. There was nothing racist about it, they searched everybody. We were all treated with equal suspicion.

the seventies

oh happy days

hoax bombscares during exam time was another favourite

We should ban Irish visitors to mainland Britain until our country's representatives can figure out what the hell is going on.

Ishmael_Z said:

Beverley_C said:

TheWhiteRabbit said:

BevC - people would agree, if only they had the time to stop and think. Cucumbers are fifty pence for heavens' sake.

Indeed

--- Mushroom soup for two ---

250g chestnut mushrooms £1
100g onion 10p (ish)
sprig of Thyme 10p ish
one clove garlic 1p
nob of butter

Cost £1.21 (ish), defo less than £1.50 for two people, 20 mins inc prep


Use a medium size pot (15 - 20cm across)

Fry the garlic and onions in the butter until golden. Chop the mushrooms quite small and add to the onions and garlic and mix well. Add the thyme and just cover the whole lot with boiling water and leave to simmer for 10 to 15 minutes.

Blend with a hand blender until smooth and add salt and pepper to suit your taste. If you need to thicken it then mix 1 tsp of cornflour with one tbsp of water and stir into the soup.

Handmade soup always seems to me not worth the effort. I once made tomato soup; it took what felt like 48 hours, and was indistinguishable from Heinz.

Mrs Sandpit does make an awesome chicken soup. But it does have half a kilo of chicken in it for a litre of soup

Beverley_C said:

Casino_Royale said:

The problem is not the price of the ingredients, it's the can't-be-arsed, don't-know-how attitude.

Laziness is expensive.

Casino_Royale said:

And possibly don't-have-the-kitchen-equipment as well.

One pot. One knife. One blender. If you chop fine enough you can skip the hand blender.

Casino_Royale said:

You need families and social networks that can teach you to cook, pick up the skills, and dispel some of the fears.

School lessons, guides, brownies, scouts, Youtube, cookbooks... knowing how to feed yourself should be part of everyone's education.

Casino_Royale said:

On top of all of that is motivation: many people get stuck because they can't be motivated to move, work, cook, learn or exercise for anything or anyone unless it delivers them instant gratification.

True enough. I am certainly motivated by salty, fatty, mostly orange, MSG, microwave food - motivated to avoid it.

I don't think you're the problem Beverley!

It might be old-fashioned and socially conservative to say so but, Iike so many things, it starts with family and one's wider social network, strong communities and a strong civic society.

Sean_F said:

Beverley_C said:

Ishmael_Z said:

Handmade soup always seems to me not worth the effort. I once made tomato soup; it took what felt like 48 hours, and was indistinguishable from Heinz.

That's tomatoes for you... why do you think I used mushrooms in the recipe?

If you're willing to do your own preparation and cooking, you can indeed eat well quite cheaply.

HelloFresh is the answer.

Albeit, a slightly pricey one.

TOPPING said:

Charles said:

TheWhiteRabbit said:

rottenborough said:

from pt on agriculture:

Robotics will shortly do away with the need for manual labour on the land. At least for arable and vegetable. Herding cows and sheep may take a while longer.

It's a fair way away. It's going to be hugely capital intensive. Existing farm machinery is in total £1m+ and we're talking doubling or tripling that.

Also consumer don't like damaged fruit, and it's tough to make robotic pickers (especially for soft fruits) that don't damage the crop. You could automatic harvesters and other equipment, but not sure the saving will be huge as you'd need to manually drive them from field to field.

Who's to say what a good looking carrot looks like.

The EU?

Ishmael_Z said:

Casino_Royale said:

AlastairMeeks said:

TheWhiteRabbit said:

AlastairMeeks said:

Continuing the discussion about Brexit and agriculture:

https://www.ft.com/content/e22c9d5c-e95c-11e6-893c-082c54a7f539

Good news for the workers:

"Farms and food producers are having to compete harder for a shrinking pool of workers. One poultry farmer said he had raised wages by 15 per cent. Pete Taylor, operations director at recruitment firm Encore Personnel, which supplies labour to the food industry, is laying on minibuses to bring in staff to pick and process food in Spalding, Lincolnshire, from the wider surrounding area.

“Over Christmas, one company said that out of 500 workers on one particular shift, they were about 200 short,” he said. “It’s the aftermath panic of Brexit, and people are running for the hills. They’re certainly not running for the Fens, which is where we need them.” "

However, on the subject of not-at-all-xenophobic Britain:

"Nick Houghton, managing director of a food manufacturing company in Nottingham, relies on EU staff to fill 75 per cent of his workforce and complains that the atmosphere has become increasingly hostile.

“Staff have said to me they don’t talk on the phone on the bus any more because they don’t want people to hear them speaking Polish. That’s despicable in my view,” he said.

Mr Houghton scoffs when asked why he can’t find local workers to fill the gaps. “There isn’t a pool of unemployed workers sitting there waiting for the EU workers to go back, ready and able to take up these jobs,” he said."

I'm not surprised, there are so many parts of the arable industry addicted to cheap, seasonal labour.

There are so many UK consumers addicted to cheap food prices.

If we leave the EU and CAP, we'll get those from global food imports.

The problem may be UK consumers expecting *British* farm produce to be ultra cheap.

In reality, in the long-term, it will move into value-added, higher-end products and maize/corn/basic root veg will be a niche organic market in the UK, and not a mass one.

Organic is 1.4% of the uk food and drink market (and grew 4.9% in 2015)

https://www.soilassociation.org/certification/market-research-and-data/the-organic-market-report/

It's nice to think it will continue to grow, but as you say it's niche and destined to stay that way.

Because it's effing expensive.

TOPPING said:

Casino_Royale said:

Beverley_C said:

Casino_Royale said:

The problem is not the price of the ingredients, it's the can't-be-arsed, don't-know-how attitude.

Laziness is expensive.

Casino_Royale said:

And possibly don't-have-the-kitchen-equipment as well.

One pot. One knife. One blender. If you chop fine enough you can skip the hand blender.

Casino_Royale said:

You need families and social networks that can teach you to cook, pick up the skills, and dispel some of the fears.

School lessons, guides, brownies, scouts, Youtube, cookbooks... knowing how to feed yourself should be part of everyone's education.

Casino_Royale said:

On top of all of that is motivation: many people get stuck because they can't be motivated to move, work, cook, learn or exercise for anything or anyone unless it delivers them instant gratification.

True enough. I am certainly motivated by salty, fatty, mostly orange, MSG, microwave food - motivated to avoid it.

I don't think you're the problem Beverley!

It might be old-fashioned and socially conservative to say so but, Iike so many things, it starts with family and one's wider social network, strong communities and a strong civic society.

Sounds like the type of communities that some on here are all for banning from the UK.

Lost me..

TheScreamingEagles said:

I wonder if Gove is going to quit being an MP and become editor of The Times

ttps://twitter.com/HenryJFoy/status/829698044568489986

Not if he is scooped by the FT on his own interview with Trump.

AlastairMeeks said:

TOPPING said:

AlastairMeeks said:

Beverley_C said:

TheWhiteRabbit said:

BevC - people would agree, if only they had the time to stop and think. Cucumbers are fifty pence for heavens' sake.

Indeed

--- Mushroom soup for two ---

250g chestnut mushrooms £1
100g onion 10p (ish)
sprig of Thyme 10p ish
one clove garlic 1p
nob of butter

Cost £1.21 (ish), defo less than £1.50 for two people, 20 mins inc prep


Use a medium size pot (15 - 20cm across)

Fry the garlic and onions in the butter until golden. Chop the mushrooms quite small and add to the onions and garlic and mix well. Add the thyme and just cover the whole lot with boiling water and leave to simmer for 10 to 15 minutes.

Blend with a hand blender until smooth and add salt and pepper to suit your taste. If you need to thicken it then mix 1 tsp of cornflour with one tbsp of water and stir into the soup.

My other half is very into soup-making at the moment. He needs assistance with some of the prepping so I am getting some hands-on experience too.

His most recent effort is celeriac and apple, and very nice it is too.

Most recipes these days go swimmingly until it comes to the "take a pinch of southernwood..." moment then you give up and resolve to buy only M&S Supa-Redi-Dinner experiences from there on in.

That's where my other half excels. He's got a natural gift for herbing and spicing.

I don't understand it at all and he can't understand why I don't find it easy.

You need one of these:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B004FGMZCQ/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1

Casino_Royale said:

TOPPING said:

Casino_Royale said:

Beverley_C said:

Casino_Royale said:

The problem is not the price of the ingredients, it's the can't-be-arsed, don't-know-how attitude.

Laziness is expensive.

Casino_Royale said:

And possibly don't-have-the-kitchen-equipment as well.

One pot. One knife. One blender. If you chop fine enough you can skip the hand blender.

Casino_Royale said:

You need families and social networks that can teach you to cook, pick up the skills, and dispel some of the fears.

School lessons, guides, brownies, scouts, Youtube, cookbooks... knowing how to feed yourself should be part of everyone's education.

Casino_Royale said:

On top of all of that is motivation: many people get stuck because they can't be motivated to move, work, cook, learn or exercise for anything or anyone unless it delivers them instant gratification.

True enough. I am certainly motivated by salty, fatty, mostly orange, MSG, microwave food - motivated to avoid it.

I don't think you're the problem Beverley!

It might be old-fashioned and socially conservative to say so but, Iike so many things, it starts with family and one's wider social network, strong communities and a strong civic society.

Sounds like the type of communities that some on here are all for banning from the UK.

Lost me..

Well immigrant communities generally display many if not all of the characteristics you just listed as important (for soup-making in that instance).

TheWhiteRabbit said:

AlastairMeeks said:

Continuing the discussion about Brexit and agriculture:

https://www.ft.com/content/e22c9d5c-e95c-11e6-893c-082c54a7f539

Good news for the workers:

"Farms and food producers are having to compete harder for a shrinking pool of workers. One poultry farmer said he had raised wages by 15 per cent. Pete Taylor, operations director at recruitment firm Encore Personnel, which supplies labour to the food industry, is laying on minibuses to bring in staff to pick and process food in Spalding, Lincolnshire, from the wider surrounding area.

“Over Christmas, one company said that out of 500 workers on one particular shift, they were about 200 short,” he said. “It’s the aftermath panic of Brexit, and people are running for the hills. They’re certainly not running for the Fens, which is where we need them.” "

However, on the subject of not-at-all-xenophobic Britain:

"Nick Houghton, managing director of a food manufacturing company in Nottingham, relies on EU staff to fill 75 per cent of his workforce and complains that the atmosphere has become increasingly hostile.

“Staff have said to me they don’t talk on the phone on the bus any more because they don’t want people to hear them speaking Polish. That’s despicable in my view,” he said.

Mr Houghton scoffs when asked why he can’t find local workers to fill the gaps. “There isn’t a pool of unemployed workers sitting there waiting for the EU workers to go back, ready and able to take up these jobs,” he said."

I'm not surprised, there are so many parts of the arable industry addicted to cheap, seasonal labour and to the fact that their workforces lingua franca is not English.

If it's over Christmas, they are probably working on poultry processing, which is a notoriously unpleasant job. (One of my friends runs a large poultry company - the first thing he does when any investment banker comes begging for business is take them on a tour of a facility. Surprising how many of them never come back...

Casino_Royale said:

Sean_F said:

Beverley_C said:

Ishmael_Z said:

Handmade soup always seems to me not worth the effort. I once made tomato soup; it took what felt like 48 hours, and was indistinguishable from Heinz.

That's tomatoes for you... why do you think I used mushrooms in the recipe?

If you're willing to do your own preparation and cooking, you can indeed eat well quite cheaply.

HelloFresh is the answer.

Albeit, a slightly pricey one.

Hello Fresh is very good, but you can prepare decent meals far more cheaply than that. Things like chicken livers in tomato sauce, soups, chicken or pork fried rice, pasta can all be prepared cheaply.

Mr. Eagles, four letters would be more appropriate than six.

*sighs* Some people are just wretched.

Mr. M, I have the wildest crowds. So wild, they love my words. They love being on the winning team.

Morris_Dancer said:

Mr. Eagles, four letters would be more appropriate than six.

*sighs* Some people are just wretched.

Mr. M, I have the wildest crowds. So wild, they love my words. They love being on the winning team.

If he's not on your list to blasted into the heart of the sun....

Mr. Observer, it's not a good situation. The recent milk experiment does suggest there's public desire to spend a little more to help support farmers. I wonder if something more could be done along those lines (particularly offline, farmers clubbing together to sell produce more directly).

Russia has bombed Turkish forces in Syria, killing 3.

Mr. Glenn, well, the situation was in danger of looking like it might stabilise...

Charles said:

TheWhiteRabbit said:

AlastairMeeks said:

Continuing the discussion about Brexit and agriculture:

https://www.ft.com/content/e22c9d5c-e95c-11e6-893c-082c54a7f539

Good news for the workers:

"Farms and food producers are having to compete harder for a shrinking pool of workers. One poultry farmer said he had raised wages by 15 per cent. Pete Taylor, operations director at recruitment firm Encore Personnel, which supplies labour to the food industry, is laying on minibuses to bring in staff to pick and process food in Spalding, Lincolnshire, from the wider surrounding area.

“Over Christmas, one company said that out of 500 workers on one particular shift, they were about 200 short,” he said. “It’s the aftermath panic of Brexit, and people are running for the hills. They’re certainly not running for the Fens, which is where we need them.” "

However, on the subject of not-at-all-xenophobic Britain:

"Nick Houghton, managing director of a food manufacturing company in Nottingham, relies on EU staff to fill 75 per cent of his workforce and complains that the atmosphere has become increasingly hostile.

“Staff have said to me they don’t talk on the phone on the bus any more because they don’t want people to hear them speaking Polish. That’s despicable in my view,” he said.

Mr Houghton scoffs when asked why he can’t find local workers to fill the gaps. “There isn’t a pool of unemployed workers sitting there waiting for the EU workers to go back, ready and able to take up these jobs,” he said."

I'm not surprised, there are so many parts of the arable industry addicted to cheap, seasonal labour and to the fact that their workforces lingua franca is not English.

If it's over Christmas, they are probably working on poultry processing, which is a notoriously unpleasant job. (One of my friends runs a large poultry company - the first thing he does when any investment banker comes begging for business is take them on a tour of a facility. Surprising how many of them never come back...

Charles

If I remember you mentioned the Hailshams a few days ago.

I note that Charlotte Hogg, daughter of the current Viscount is to be a deputy governor of the Bank of England.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/charlotte-hogg-appointed-new-deputy-governor-markets-and-banking

That family is certainly part of the British establishment!

PlatoSaid said:

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/444741/jonathan-chait-book-obama-audacity-review-ben-domenech

"This is an author’s nightmare: to spend years building the momentum of an idea for a book, researching and writing said book, consulting on key points with friends and associates, dealing with agents and editors and all the rigors of the publishing process — only to have your book arrive just as its central thesis is dashed against the sharp rocks of reality...

The complaint being that the author is refuting *left-wing* attacks on Obama, and wrote that Trump was preferable to Rubio and Cruz?

Theuniondivvie said:

weejonnie said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

Even Trump can't save Tw@tter....

The social networking service reported a loss of $167m (£133m) in the final three months of 2016, as against $90m in the same period a year earlier.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-38920856

And then twitter goes and alienates 25% of its users. Maybe the liberals will eventually realise that opening their mouths and pouring forth vitriol now has consequences.

Chortle.

https://twitter.com/laudreport/status/827513421587431425

https://twitter.com/richardhine/status/829513758800232448

In december its stock price reached 61.49 - it is now 45.15 - and falling back.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=nordstrom+share+price&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-ab&gfe_rd=cr&ei=04mcWOmTF83W8gegwK6IDQ

Folks, don't listen to Scott_P. What he says is fake news.

Everyone knows I have the best artillery. My guns are so big. Lib Dems jealous of my man-cannon. Sad!

Off-topic:

Dutch elections to be hand-counted after security of electronic systems thrown into doubt.

http://www.osnews.com/story/29647/Fearful_of_hacking_Dutch_will_count_ballots_by_hand

Morris_Dancer said:

Mr. Observer, it's not a good situation. The recent milk experiment does suggest there's public desire to spend a little more to help support farmers. I wonder if something more could be done along those lines (particularly offline, farmers clubbing together to sell produce more directly).

http://enjoymilk.co.uk/

Mr. Llama, saw that on your Twitter feed.

Jobabob said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Sandpit said:

Scott_P said:

@BBCJonSopel: Extraordinary. Sen Blumenthal says Judge #Gorsuch explicitly wanted his concerns about @realDonaldTrump attacks on judiciary made public

Is there a market on Gorsuch being confirmed, then overturning Trump's ban (and maybe some other stuff) ?

Judges have always complained about politicians, and vice Versace.

The GOP in the Senate are more than happy with Gorsuch as an SC nominee, is it actually possible for his nomination to be rescinded at this stage?

Vice Versace is an awesome typo

Sandpit was Chanelling Clive Lewis with that one. Dior your own research!

LOL

TheWhiteRabbit said:

RoyalBlue said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

What a tosser.

Exclusive: Cambridge student in white tie burns cash in front of homeless person. He was a member of the Conservative Association at the time

http://thetab.com/uk/cambridge/2017/02/09/exclusive-cambridge-student-white-tie-burns-cash-front-homeless-person-88773

That used to be (and probably still is) part of the initiation for the Bullingdon Club.

Hopefully he'll be expelled from the party and association for life.

I hated the Bullingdon - and Brasenose's knock-off - with all my heart. More than anythign else with which I have had personal contact.

I would go as far as to say my university's equivalent, their associated hangers on and that portion of public school types who operated a kind of apartheid (separate bars, separate subjects, wilful ignorance of life beyond their kind) and the correlation between those who ran the student conservatives and precisely those people who set themselves as most separate, colours my view to this day of how the Conservative party can never truly represent or understand me, wherever it positions itself on the left/right spectrum. And far more so than growing up in a Labour heartland in the 80s ever did.

Yes, it is something of a visceral class thing, but there you have it.

https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/829719789790695425

Richard_Nabavi said:

Clive Lewis has published his resignation letter, complete with the authentic spelling mistakes you'd expect from someone tipped as a future Labour leader:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/blog/live/2017/feb/09/corbyn-dismisses-claims-he-has-set-date-for-resigning-as-fake-news-politics-live

13:41

Didn't the BBC sack him for being a crap journalist?

https://twitter.com/ft/status/829699245607354368

Gove didn't mention that part...

weejonnie said:

Theuniondivvie said:

weejonnie said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

Even Trump can't save Tw@tter....

The social networking service reported a loss of $167m (£133m) in the final three months of 2016, as against $90m in the same period a year earlier.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-38920856

And then twitter goes and alienates 25% of its users. Maybe the liberals will eventually realise that opening their mouths and pouring forth vitriol now has consequences.

Chortle.

https://twitter.com/laudreport/status/827513421587431425

https://twitter.com/richardhine/status/829513758800232448

In december its stock price reached 61.49 - it is now 45.15 - and falling back.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=nordstrom+share+price&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-ab&gfe_rd=cr&ei=04mcWOmTF83W8gegwK6IDQ

Is this what the President of the United States should do with his time?

isam said:

Richard_Nabavi said:

Clive Lewis has published his resignation letter, complete with the authentic spelling mistakes you'd expect from someone tipped as a future Labour leader:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/blog/live/2017/feb/09/corbyn-dismisses-claims-he-has-set-date-for-resigning-as-fake-news-politics-live

13:41

Didn't the BBC sack him for being a crap journalist?

Nooooo...its was because the BBC are a load of racists*.

* According to Clive.

FrancisUrquhart said:

isam said:

Richard_Nabavi said:

Clive Lewis has published his resignation letter, complete with the authentic spelling mistakes you'd expect from someone tipped as a future Labour leader:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/blog/live/2017/feb/09/corbyn-dismisses-claims-he-has-set-date-for-resigning-as-fake-news-politics-live

13:41

Didn't the BBC sack him for being a crap journalist?

Nooooo...its was because the BBC are a load of racists*.

* According to Clive.

Not sure the BBC did sack him, did they?

SouthamObserver said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

isam said:

Richard_Nabavi said:

Clive Lewis has published his resignation letter, complete with the authentic spelling mistakes you'd expect from someone tipped as a future Labour leader:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/blog/live/2017/feb/09/corbyn-dismisses-claims-he-has-set-date-for-resigning-as-fake-news-politics-live

13:41

Didn't the BBC sack him for being a crap journalist?

Nooooo...its was because the BBC are a load of racists*.

* According to Clive.

Not sure the BBC did sack him, did they?

Sorry you are right. They didn't promote him because he was crap, and he said it was because he was black

Maybe Regional BBC News try to reflect their audience. My regional news is BBC London and they seem to do that pretty well, intentionally or not.

EastEnders, on the other hand, is the most racist programme on tv in terms of accurately reflecting the local population

SimonStClare said:

Awkward...

BBC - President Vladimir Putin has apologised after a Russian air strike accidentally killed three Turkish soldiers in northern Syria, Turkey says.

Those Russians have long memories ...

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Sky and BBC on an all day marathon of disaster that is the NHS. Journalist feading doctors with inviting and helpful suggestions and every statistic indicating the end of the NHS.

There are serious problems in the NHS and in particular with the lack of joined up thinking with Social care but I fail to see how it is helped by journalists and cameras being use to distract staff working and generally getting in their way.

Interesting that the NHS does not feature in the 10 most popular stories on the BBC web page.

The MSM are running the risk of making the NHS a 'switch off' story and doing the opposite of what they are trying to achieve. They must cover NHS issues but day after day they only have the one story and it is almost always the catastrophe that is the English NHS, rather than the Welsh and Scots NHS which are worse

Every time they say "NHS" without saying "in England" should result in a fine to the broadcaster.

TheScreamingEagles said:

I wonder if Gove is going to quit being an MP and become editor of The Times

https://twitter.com/HenryJFoy/status/829698044568489986

Given his column is an immediate scroll past, one hopes not.

@helenpidd: To Labour supporters who still think Jeremy Corbyn is an electoral asset: come to Copeland.

Big_G_NorthWales said:

They must cover NHS issues but day after day they only have the one story and it is almost always the catastrophe that is the English NHS, rather than the Welsh and Scots NHS which are worse

You should probably get in touch with your pro brexit, anti independence, life-long SNP member in-law for some on the the ground info. Or just go to the BBC.

'It comes as official NHS figures for December show that 86.2% of A&E patients in England were dealt with in under four hours.
December A&E figures for Scotland are much higher at 92.6% while Wales and Northern Ireland's figures are lower than England's.'

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-38907492

Theuniondivvie said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

They must cover NHS issues but day after day they only have the one story and it is almost always the catastrophe that is the English NHS, rather than the Welsh and Scots NHS which are worse

You should probably get in touch with your pro brexit, anti independence, life-long SNP member in-law for some on the the ground info.

'It comes as official NHS figures for December show that 86.2% of A&E patients in England were dealt with in under four hours.
December A&E figures for Scotland are much higher at 92.6% while Wales and Northern Ireland's figures are lower than England's.'

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-38907492

All NHS's are under serious strain and need a new cross party consensus to apply joined up innovative thinking and the merging of social care.

By the way see Nicola is failing again, this time on education. Time she did her day job instead of living on fantasy islsnd

logical_song said:

weejonnie said:

Theuniondivvie said:

weejonnie said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

Even Trump can't save Tw@tter....

The social networking service reported a loss of $167m (£133m) in the final three months of 2016, as against $90m in the same period a year earlier.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-38920856

Chortle.

https://twitter.com/laudreport/status/827513421587431425

https://twitter.com/richardhine/status/829513758800232448

In december its stock price reached 61.49 - it is now 45.15 - and falling back.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=nordstrom+share+price&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-ab&gfe_rd=cr&ei=04mcWOmTF83W8gegwK6IDQ

Is this what the President of the United States should do with his time?

What he does with his time is his own concern - and if the American people thinks he has been abusing it then they can kick him out in 2020.

PS - if you want to know who to boycott then http://www.ethicalconsumer.org/boycotts/boycottslist.aspx has a list - but I think you won't find any companies that the right are boycotting there - they are mainly anti-Israel related boycotts..

here is a list of companies that trump opponents are boycotting.

Nordstrom’s
TJ Maxx
Stein Mart
Trump Golf Courses
Trump Hotels
Dillard’s
Neiman Marcus
DSW
Hudson Bay
Macy’s
Lord & Taylor
Marshalls
Bed, Bath & Beyond
Bloomingdale’s
Blue Fly
6 p.m.com
Belk.com
Bon-Ton
Century 21 Department Store
Burlington Coat Factory
Carson’s
DSW
HSN
Jet

And a list that trump supporters are encouraged to boycott


Pepsico
MACY'S
Amazon - owned by Jeff Bezos
The NFL - this is a big one but has been requested multiple times. Any opposition?
GrubHub (CEO is a total cuck) and their subsidiary, Seamless
OREOS (moved production to Mexico)
CARRIER Air Conditioning (moved production to Mexico)
Moz
Dreamworks
Netflix - spreads propaganda for Al Qaeda
Lifeway Foods - CEO Julie Smolyansky trashed President Trump.
PacketSled *
ConAgra - they're closing up and moving to MEXICO
Comet Ping Pong, Besta Pizza, Terasol, Politics and Prose and Beyond Borders - see r/pizzagate
Required mention: social media such as Facebook, Google, Twitter, Imgur, YouTube - all censored pro-Trump stuff. If you use these to post pro-Trump stuff, weigh the benefits. Trump did use SM to win the election.
Disney - they're cucked and many are clamoring for them to be added.
Ben & Jerry's for supporting BLM
Starbucks (by popular demand)
Dell

(Looks bad for Macy's)
I assume Nordstrom's will be transferred over to the supporters list from the opponents list.

weejonnie said:

What he does with his time is his own concern - and if the American people thinks he has been abusing it then they can kick him out in 2020.

The concern is what he is doing on what is not "his own time". He tweeted about Nordstrom during what his official schedule said was a National Security briefing

Mr P,

"To Labour supporters who still think Jeremy Corbyn is an electoral asset: come to Copeland."

Surely he's played a blinder for Stoke, though. Pushing through Brexit should scupper Ukip and guarantee a Labour hold?

@faisalislam: LabLords leader Baroness Smith: "Lords, as always, will challenge/scrutinise legislation put before us; if necessary will pass amendments"..

@faisalislam: B. Smith: "we will not be cowed by threats of abolition or flooding place with 100s of new Tory Peers. stakes too high & we'll do our duty.”

weejonnie said:

logical_song said:

weejonnie said:

Theuniondivvie said:

weejonnie said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

In december its stock price reached 61.49 - it is now 45.15 - and falling back.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=nordstrom+share+price&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-ab&gfe_rd=cr&ei=04mcWOmTF83W8gegwK6IDQ

Is this what the President of the United States should do with his time?

What he does with his time is his own concern - and if the American people thinks he has been abusing it then they can kick him out in 2020.

PS - if you want to know who to boycott then http://www.ethicalconsumer.org/boycotts/boycottslist.aspx has a list - but I think you won't find any companies that the right are boycotting there - they are mainly anti-Israel related boycotts..

here is a list of companies that trump opponents are boycotting.

Nordstrom’s
TJ Maxx
Stein Mart
Trump Golf Courses
Trump Hotels
Dillard’s
Neiman Marcus
DSW
Hudson Bay
Macy’s
Lord & Taylor
Marshalls
Bed, Bath & Beyond
Bloomingdale’s
Blue Fly
6 p.m.com
Belk.com
Bon-Ton
Century 21 Department Store
Burlington Coat Factory
Carson’s
DSW
HSN
Jet

And a list that trump supporters are encouraged to boycott


Pepsico
MACY'S
Amazon - owned by Jeff Bezos
The NFL - this is a big one but has been requested multiple times. Any opposition?
GrubHub (CEO is a total cuck) and their subsidiary, Seamless
OREOS (moved production to Mexico)
CARRIER Air Conditioning (moved production to Mexico)
Moz
Dreamworks
Netflix - spreads propaganda for Al Qaeda
Lifeway Foods - CEO Julie Smolyansky trashed President Trump.
PacketSled *
ConAgra - they're closing up and moving to MEXICO
Comet Ping Pong, Besta Pizza, Terasol, Politics and Prose and Beyond Borders - see r/pizzagate
Required mention: social media such as Facebook, Google, Twitter, Imgur, YouTube - all censored pro-Trump stuff. If you use these to post pro-Trump stuff, weigh the benefits. Trump did use SM to win the election.
Disney - they're cucked and many are clamoring for them to be added.
Ben & Jerry's for supporting BLM
Starbucks (by popular demand)
Dell

(Looks bad for Macy's)
I assume Nordstrom's will be transferred over to the supporters list from the opponents list.

Some people, possibly quite a few, have way too much time on their hands.