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From what I recall the Paris attack was planned in Syria. Presumably this order was primarily a preventative measure.SouthamObserver said:
How many Americans have been killed by Syrian immigrants since 9/11, or those from any of the other six countries affected by the ban?Tim_B said:
9/11 was just one act. There have been many more terrorist acts worldwide since then, very few of which had Saudi or Egyptian folks involved.Scott_P said:
Not reallyTim_B said:Everyone seems to be calling this a 'muslim ban'. It's not - it's a ban on folks from countries which foment the most terrorists,
None of the 9/11 terrorists came from any of these countries, did they?0 -
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This is a political gesture for his right wing base. That is all.Tim_B said:
From what I recall the Paris attack was planned in Syria. Presumably this order was primarily a preventative measure.SouthamObserver said:
How many Americans have been killed by Syrian immigrants since 9/11, or those from any of the other six countries affected by the ban?Tim_B said:
9/11 was just one act. There have been many more terrorist acts worldwide since then, very few of which had Saudi or Egyptian folks involved.Scott_P said:
Not reallyTim_B said:Everyone seems to be calling this a 'muslim ban'. It's not - it's a ban on folks from countries which foment the most terrorists,
None of the 9/11 terrorists came from any of these countries, did they?0 -
Mohamed Khadir innocent! Alexandre Bissonette is the Mosque murderer according to reports0
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Yes, with reflection you are probably right. £2 on him at 85 sorts out that potential hole. Thanks.BudG said:
I think Juppe would end up running. His denial that he would run is only to be expected, anything less would be seen as putting pressure on Fillon and possibly pre-judging the issue.rottenborough said:This tweet made me put a wild £2 on Sarkozy:
Marie Le Conte @youngvulgarian 2h2 hours ago
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What happens if Fillon ends up having to drop out? Well-liked candidate Juppé has already said he wouldn't run as second choice, so...Sarko?
At 180 on BF. Definitely a wild flutter, but if 2016 is like 2017...DYOR.
His Party would want a candidate who would have the best chance for success and he was not only the runner-up in the Primary, ahead of Sarkozy but was also riding high in the polls up until the time of his exclusion.0 -
Presumably the narrative will change somewhat after tomorrow evening at 8pm EST, when Trump announces his Supreme Court pick - will it be Gorsuch or Hardiman? Trump's sister is on the same bench as Hardiman.0
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I see we're posting old snippets on here.... I've just changed PC and found I took one in my 'post it note' thingy in outlook... can't remember why exactly... was it that I thought someone was counting chickens at the time???
15/4/15 22.35 NickPalmer • Posts: 4,554
LAB - 35% (-) CON - 34% (+1) UKIP - 13% (-) LDEM - 8% (-) GRN - 5% (-)
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He is fulfilling a campaign promise, and it has broad support. Hardly a gesture.Jonathan said:
This is a political gesture for his right wing base. That is all.Tim_B said:
From what I recall the Paris attack was planned in Syria. Presumably this order was primarily a preventative measure.SouthamObserver said:
How many Americans have been killed by Syrian immigrants since 9/11, or those from any of the other six countries affected by the ban?Tim_B said:
9/11 was just one act. There have been many more terrorist acts worldwide since then, very few of which had Saudi or Egyptian folks involved.Scott_P said:
Not reallyTim_B said:Everyone seems to be calling this a 'muslim ban'. It's not - it's a ban on folks from countries which foment the most terrorists,
None of the 9/11 terrorists came from any of these countries, did they?0 -
Trump exempts the Five Eyes Security Alliance members.SeanT said:lol!
The Anglosphere lives
https://twitter.com/Peston/status/826112830244081664
It's clear where free trade is going to end up as well.0 -
There was never much doubt on that one.chestnut said:
Trump exempts the Five Eyes Security Alliance members.SeanT said:lol!
The Anglosphere lives
https://twitter.com/Peston/status/826112830244081664
It's clear where free trade is going to end up as well.0 -
A political move, not one with any actual effectiveness in reducing deaths in the US.Tim_B said:
He is fulfilling a campaign promise, and it has broad support. Hardly a gesture.Jonathan said:
This is a political gesture for his right wing base. That is all.Tim_B said:
From what I recall the Paris attack was planned in Syria. Presumably this order was primarily a preventative measure.SouthamObserver said:
How many Americans have been killed by Syrian immigrants since 9/11, or those from any of the other six countries affected by the ban?Tim_B said:
9/11 was just one act. There have been many more terrorist acts worldwide since then, very few of which had Saudi or Egyptian folks involved.Scott_P said:
Not reallyTim_B said:Everyone seems to be calling this a 'muslim ban'. It's not - it's a ban on folks from countries which foment the most terrorists,
None of the 9/11 terrorists came from any of these countries, did they?0 -
LOL, sorry. I do not mean to cause you nor anyone else consternation about their French betting books. Tis just my opinion, which may be right or wrong.Pulpstar said:
Jesus every time you post I feel like the grim reaper of doom is trying to pull my French book apart.BudG said:
I think Juppe would end up running. His denial that he would run is only to be expected, anything less would be seen as putting pressure on Fillon and possibly pre-judging the issue.rottenborough said:This tweet made me put a wild £2 on Sarkozy:
Marie Le Conte @youngvulgarian 2h2 hours ago
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What happens if Fillon ends up having to drop out? Well-liked candidate Juppé has already said he wouldn't run as second choice, so...Sarko?
At 180 on BF. Definitely a wild flutter, but if 2016 is like 2017...DYOR.
His Party would want a candidate who would have the best chance for success and he was not only the runner-up in the Primary, ahead of Sarkozy but was also riding high in the polls up until the time of his exclusion.0 -
Charlie Hebdo have their finger on the 'button'!
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vvvhina ?chestnut said:
Trump exempts the Five Eyes Security Alliance members.SeanT said:lol!
The Anglosphere lives
https://twitter.com/Peston/status/826112830244081664
It's clear where free trade is going to end up as well.0 -
As I say, based on 2016, there's no reason to assume all sorts of wild stuff might yet happen. I'm trying to stay green on all comers. Won't win more than a few quid if favourite Fillon wins, but otherwise will be pretty good.Pulpstar said:
Jesus every time you post I feel like the grim reaper of doom is trying to pull my French book apart.BudG said:
I think Juppe would end up running. His denial that he would run is only to be expected, anything less would be seen as putting pressure on Fillon and possibly pre-judging the issue.rottenborough said:This tweet made me put a wild £2 on Sarkozy:
Marie Le Conte @youngvulgarian 2h2 hours ago
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What happens if Fillon ends up having to drop out? Well-liked candidate Juppé has already said he wouldn't run as second choice, so...Sarko?
At 180 on BF. Definitely a wild flutter, but if 2016 is like 2017...DYOR.
His Party would want a candidate who would have the best chance for success and he was not only the runner-up in the Primary, ahead of Sarkozy but was also riding high in the polls up until the time of his exclusion.0 -
Enda Kenny is so much more impressive and articulate on relations with the US than Theresa May.0
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Most of them in America had one very clear link - the USA. Most of the recent terrorist attacks were committed by US citizens born in the US.Tim_B said:
9/11 was just one act. There have been many more terrorist acts worldwide since then, very few of which had Saudi or Egyptian folks involved.Scott_P said:
Not reallyTim_B said:Everyone seems to be calling this a 'muslim ban'. It's not - it's a ban on folks from countries which foment the most terrorists,
None of the 9/11 terrorists came from any of these countries, did they?0 -
To be fair David Cameron was compared unfavourably with Neville Chamberlain countless times on here.John_M said:
And it's full marks for you for another fine example of screaming metropolitan hyperbole. Bravo.AlastairMeeks said:Leavers spend the whole of 2016 drawing wildly irrational comparisons with the Second World War and now in 2017 we're supposed to believe that those types of references are so over?
Full marks for hypocrisy for the foaming Europhobes.
Coming back from a visit to a country with an insane far right leader with a sort of deal to the cheers of the Mail seems a far better comparison.0 -
@faisalislam: Irish PM has chosen to answer WH visit question by also expressing his disagreement with Trump ban0
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Ooops! My mistake -the suspension covers 7 countries, not 6. I forgot the gentle folk of Yemen.0
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Actually I doubt that that is right. As far as we can see from the chaotic early days of the Trump presidency, it seems to me that he is genuine and sincere, i.e. he really does believe that the US has taken a whole bunch of missteps and it's up to him to reverse them.Jonathan said:This is a political gesture for his right wing base. That is all.
If I'm right, it isn't necessarily good news, of course. Rather the opposite, I fear.0 -
Ed Miliband is very articulate.0
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Hi William – not a dig but are you still happy that Trump won the US election?williamglenn said:Enda Kenny is so much more impressive and articulate on relations with the US than Theresa May.
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Most of the attackers were French or Belgian.Tim_B said:
From what I recall the Paris attack was planned in Syria. Presumably this order was primarily a preventative measure.SouthamObserver said:
How many Americans have been killed by Syrian immigrants since 9/11, or those from any of the other six countries affected by the ban?Tim_B said:
9/11 was just one act. There have been many more terrorist acts worldwide since then, very few of which had Saudi or Egyptian folks involved.Scott_P said:
Not reallyTim_B said:Everyone seems to be calling this a 'muslim ban'. It's not - it's a ban on folks from countries which foment the most terrorists,
None of the 9/11 terrorists came from any of these countries, did they?
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rofl.Scrapheap_as_was said:I see we're posting old snippets on here.... I've just changed PC and found I took one in my 'post it note' thingy in outlook... can't remember why exactly... was it that I thought someone was counting chickens at the time???
15/4/15 22.35 NickPalmer • Posts: 4,554
LAB - 35% (-) CON - 34% (+1) UKIP - 13% (-) LDEM - 8% (-) GRN - 5% (-)
Manifesto surge, eh?0 -
Who is voting?FrancisUrquhart said:
Surprised the number in favour is that high.SouthamObserver said:Sky poll also finds that 49% are opposed to Trump-style ban of Moslems entering the UK; 34% in favour.
How many would change their minds if offered a completely identical 'Obama-style' ban?
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@SkyNewsBreak: Washington State attorney general Bob Ferguson says he will file lawsuit in federal court against Trump over his immigration executive order0
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Urm....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnbNGCq6TjUGallowgate said:Ed Miliband is very articulate.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ed_Miliband_bacon_sandwich.jpgGallowgate said:Ed Miliband is very articulate.
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You are just not used to MP's working . The usual troughers are in the bar supping subsidised champers. SNP show what real MP's should be doing.tlg86 said:Just watching the Commons on BBC Parliament and it strikes me that there are a disproportionate number of SNP members asking questions. I guess they have nothing better to do as I guess they don't have that much constituency work to do. If you have a problem, you'd go to your MSP.
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Shame he's riding the wrong horse, stuck there mid-Atlantic.williamglenn said:Enda Kenny is so much more impressive and articulate on relations with the US than Theresa May.
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It certainly seems odd criticising MPs for, er, asking questions in parliament.malcolmg said:
You are just not used to MP's working . The usual troughers are in the bar supping subsidised champers. SNP show what real MP's should be doing.tlg86 said:Just watching the Commons on BBC Parliament and it strikes me that there are a disproportionate number of SNP members asking questions. I guess they have nothing better to do as I guess they don't have that much constituency work to do. If you have a problem, you'd go to your MSP.
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Today commenting on the USA. "This is the European Union and in the European Union we do not discriminate on the basis of nationality, race or religion," said the spokesman, Margaritis Schinas.rural_voter said:
R4 reports Verhofstadt as saying Trump is as much a threat as radical Islam. I think/hope that's OTT but I know which bloc I'd rather be allied with. We're headed from the frying pan into the fire.Roger said:
RN.not_on_fire said:
It's not just a visa ban, it's also denial of entry to those with valid visas. And some have been detained for long periods without access to a lawyer.Richard_Nabavi said:
US policies are always a matter for debate in the UK, and we always march hand-in-hand with them on most major issues. That doesn't mean that the UK government should be so presumptuous as to try to tell a democratically-elected president of the US, no matter how vulgar and simplistic he is, that he shouldn't implement a campaign promise on which he was elected and which, we are told, doesn't affect British citizens.SouthamObserver said:Of course it is our business - what Trump does has a direct affect on us and perceptions of us. We march hand-in-hand with him, after all. The Prime Minister wants to lead the world in partnership with him. She has put the UK's eggs in the US's basket. She has made US policies a matter for debate in the UK.
In any case, the reaction is ludicrous. Perhaps people like Yvette Cooper and Ed Miliband really do think Trump has introduced a ban on Muslims. There's much fake news about, and perhaps they've fallen for it.
For the avoidance of doubt, I'm not defending Trump' policy. I'm defending his right to be an idiot, within the bounds of US and international law, since he is, for better or worse, the democratically-elected president. Comparisons with the 1930s are completely bonkers. So far he has put in place a 90-day ban on the granting of visas to citizens of a few countries. He hasn't bombed anyone, or set up an internment camp in Guantanamo Bay to which people are sent without trial, as Blair's bestest friend did.
I'm not defending Trump policy.....
I'd be interested to know what you'd have written if you were. The problem with Tories and I include Blair is that their morality is very much second to expediency and it always has been.
This is the same EU that has numerous directives which actively discriminate against third country nationals who are not from an EU country…
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Not much to go on regarding the motive in Quebec. There has been some professional-grade disinfo in this story - not that that's unusual with such an event. Bissonnette doesn't sound like he took the pledge to al-Baghdadi. Calling 911?
Everyone knows the Daily Mail is crap, but how does REUTERS come to report a fake version of a Canadian MP's tweet as if it were accurate?0 -
Be good if Nadhim Zahawi just stood up and said
"Look I've got a fucking holiday booked taking the kids to Disneyland, can we sort this out sharpish?!"0 -
Great speech from Zahawi0
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You are just not used to MP's working . The usual troughers are in the bar supping subsidised champers. SNP show what real MP's should be doing.tlg86 said:Just watching the Commons on BBC Parliament and it strikes me that there are a disproportionate number of SNP members asking questions. I guess they have nothing better to do as I guess they don't have that much constituency work to do. If you have a problem, you'd go to your MSP.
UK bombs have made sure not many of them left to want to visit the US.Tim_B said:Ooops! My mistake -the suspension covers 7 countries, not 6. I forgot the gentle folk of Yemen.
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A perfect example of why the frothers should leave well alone. Some of the posts on here from earlier are real keepers.Dromedary said:Not much to go on regarding the motive in Quebec. There has been some professional-grade disinfo in this story - not that that's unusual with such an event. Bissonnette doesn't sound like he took the pledge to al-Baghdadi. Calling 911?
But the PB Frothers never, ever learn.0 -
Tbf Paddy Kenny would be more impressive than Saint Theresa.williamglenn said:Enda Kenny is so much more impressive and articulate on relations with the US than Theresa May.
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tim, is that you?Jobabob said:
A perfect example of why the frothers should leave well alone. Some of the posts on here from earlier are real keepers.Dromedary said:Not much to go on regarding the motive in Quebec. There has been some professional-grade disinfo in this story - not that that's unusual with such an event. Bissonnette doesn't sound like he took the pledge to al-Baghdadi. Calling 911?
But the PB Frothers never, ever learn.0 -
Shame Tim has left – was one of the best posters on the site.Sunil_Prasannan said:
tim, is that you?Jobabob said:
A perfect example of why the frothers should leave well alone. Some of the posts on here from earlier are real keepers.Dromedary said:Not much to go on regarding the motive in Quebec. There has been some professional-grade disinfo in this story - not that that's unusual with such an event. Bissonnette doesn't sound like he took the pledge to al-Baghdadi. Calling 911?
But the PB Frothers never, ever learn.0 -
I believe everybodies favourite white house spokesman is up now..0
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Has Downing Street found the committee that does not exist , the one that invited Trump for state visit, yet.0
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Fucking arseholes. Insecure, naive arseholes with their funny "I bet he's called Geoff" comments,Jobabob said:
A perfect example of why the frothers should leave well alone. Some of the posts on here from earlier are real keepers.Dromedary said:Not much to go on regarding the motive in Quebec. There has been some professional-grade disinfo in this story - not that that's unusual with such an event. Bissonnette doesn't sound like he took the pledge to al-Baghdadi. Calling 911?
But the PB Frothers never, ever learn.0 -
Latest Dom Cummings blog on how the referendum was won - includes analysis of the odds over time.
https://dominiccummings.files.wordpress.com/2017/01/20170130-referendum-22-numbers.pdf
Remember this was the campaign disparaged daily on here by shrieking retweeters - turns out they knew what they were doing all along.
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Yes, quite. Mike should sticky link this thread so at least they can be given fair warning next time (it will probably make no difference, alas).TOPPING said:
Fucking arseholes. Insecure, naive arseholes with their funny "I bet he's called Geoff" comments,Jobabob said:
A perfect example of why the frothers should leave well alone. Some of the posts on here from earlier are real keepers.Dromedary said:Not much to go on regarding the motive in Quebec. There has been some professional-grade disinfo in this story - not that that's unusual with such an event. Bissonnette doesn't sound like he took the pledge to al-Baghdadi. Calling 911?
But the PB Frothers never, ever learn.0 -
Multiculturalism working it's magic yet againTOPPING said:
Fucking arseholes. Insecure, naive arseholes with their funny "I bet he's called Geoff" comments,Jobabob said:
A perfect example of why the frothers should leave well alone. Some of the posts on here from earlier are real keepers.Dromedary said:Not much to go on regarding the motive in Quebec. There has been some professional-grade disinfo in this story - not that that's unusual with such an event. Bissonnette doesn't sound like he took the pledge to al-Baghdadi. Calling 911?
But the PB Frothers never, ever learn.0 -
That's no way to talk about the German authorities.TOPPING said:
Fucking arseholes. Insecure, naive arseholes with their funny "I bet he's called Geoff" comments,Jobabob said:
A perfect example of why the frothers should leave well alone. Some of the posts on here from earlier are real keepers.Dromedary said:Not much to go on regarding the motive in Quebec. There has been some professional-grade disinfo in this story - not that that's unusual with such an event. Bissonnette doesn't sound like he took the pledge to al-Baghdadi. Calling 911?
But the PB Frothers never, ever learn.0 -
I think we all knew what they were doing.TGOHF said:Latest Dom Cummings blog on how the referendum was won - includes analysis of the odds over time.
https://dominiccummings.files.wordpress.com/2017/01/20170130-referendum-22-numbers.pdf
Remember this was the campaign disparaged daily on here by shrieking retweeters - turns out they knew what they were doing all along.0 -
What happens at the end of an emergency debate0
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I'm still optimistic but nervous about a few of the potential ways things could develop.Jobabob said:
Hi William – not a dig but are you still happy that Trump won the US election?williamglenn said:Enda Kenny is so much more impressive and articulate on relations with the US than Theresa May.
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always playing the man, Malc. SNP hate the English as a nation as much as Trump hates the terrorists from Yemen. Hypocrites.malcolmg said:
Says a bellendDixie said:SNP in Commons talking as the racist bigots that they are. Picking thier nationality as their superiority. Same as Nazis and Orweillian 1984.
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If Labour and Tory they all rush in from the bar and ask the few party attendees who got short straw, how they are supposed to vote.Big_G_NorthWales said:What happens at the end of an emergency debate
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Ed Miliband might be fucking it up for Britain all over again as he did in 2013.0
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Matt Gootwin gets special treatment from Cummings... ooooft.0
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His country have a long line of terrorists wanting to enter the USA, so he would.williamglenn said:Enda Kenny is so much more impressive and articulate on relations with the US than Theresa May.
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Absolute hogwash, what kind of cretin supports a moron that calls MP's racist bigots for doing their job. The idiot needs help and sounds like you are not far behind.Dixie said:
always playing the man, Malc. SNP hate the English as a nation as much as Trump hates the terrorists from Yemen. Hypocrites.malcolmg said:
Says a bellendDixie said:SNP in Commons talking as the racist bigots that they are. Picking thier nationality as their superiority. Same as Nazis and Orweillian 1984.
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? Bit strong?TOPPING said:
Fucking arseholes. Insecure, naive arseholes with their funny "I bet he's called Geoff" comments,Jobabob said:
A perfect example of why the frothers should leave well alone. Some of the posts on here from earlier are real keepers.Dromedary said:Not much to go on regarding the motive in Quebec. There has been some professional-grade disinfo in this story - not that that's unusual with such an event. Bissonnette doesn't sound like he took the pledge to al-Baghdadi. Calling 911?
But the PB Frothers never, ever learn.0 -
Cummings clearly has some deeply personal beef with Matthew Goodwin.TGOHF said:Matt Gootwin gets special treatment from Cummings... ooooft.
I think they're both good.0 -
I remember my dear Scottish Father in Law saying that the Scots do not hate the English as he said they were impoverished as much as the Scots but it was the English aristocracy that were the problem. I should say I was very close to him, he was an outstanding Scottish fisherman with wonderful stories of the fishing and the folk and he was a very committed christianDixie said:
always playing the man, Malc. SNP hate the English as a nation as much as Trump hates the terrorists from Yemen. Hypocrites.malcolmg said:
Says a bellendDixie said:SNP in Commons talking as the racist bigots that they are. Picking thier nationality as their superiority. Same as Nazis and Orweillian 1984.
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Says the hypocritical numpty who has just called 54 mps racist bigots.Dixie said:
always playing the man, Malc. SNP hate the English as a nation as much as Trump hates the terrorists from Yemen. Hypocrites.malcolmg said:
Says a bellendDixie said:SNP in Commons talking as the racist bigots that they are. Picking thier nationality as their superiority. Same as Nazis and Orweillian 1984.
Tbh if you were the specific representative of your nation, I'd find it very difficult not to feel superior. I can only hope my better nature would kick in.0 -
Good answermalcolmg said:
If Labour and Tory they all rush in from the bar and ask the few party attendees who got short straw, how they are supposed to vote.Big_G_NorthWales said:What happens at the end of an emergency debate
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precisely. What the Left don't understand.Dromedary said:
Corbyn refers to "the petition supporting my calls"! He doesn't quite grasp the concept of "valid visa" either.Scott_P said:(snip)
Why didn't Trump do this the grown-up way and have the acting Secretary of State call in the ambassadors and inform them that the US would no longer allow entry to their citizens?
The answer is that he wants to be a tough bully; he wants a fair-sized proportion of the US population thinking that refugees being denied entry because they're "possible turrurists" or "Moooslims" - no more wimpish, snowflaky, politically correct, cucky "caring" about the interests of these non-white foreigners - is the greatest thing they've ever heard. It's like watching the wrestling but for real, and no "librulz" are gonna tell them what they should and shouldn't think, etc. You can imagine them going "YEAH! GO TRUMP!" when they watch the TV. This is why. There was no imminent danger from any of the people who had already been issued with visas - no new intelligence.0 -
Spicer trying the angry teacher approach, but comes off a nervous agency one thrown in to teach the worse class in the school.0
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Professional campaigners more astute than cut and paste artists shock....TGOHF said:Latest Dom Cummings blog on how the referendum was won - includes analysis of the odds over time.
https://dominiccummings.files.wordpress.com/2017/01/20170130-referendum-22-numbers.pdf
Remember this was the campaign disparaged daily on here by shrieking retweeters - turns out they knew what they were doing all along.0 -
Trudeau called it as terrorism. He's stuck with that now!TOPPING said:
Fucking arseholes. Insecure, naive arseholes with their funny "I bet he's called Geoff" comments,Jobabob said:
A perfect example of why the frothers should leave well alone. Some of the posts on here from earlier are real keepers.Dromedary said:Not much to go on regarding the motive in Quebec. There has been some professional-grade disinfo in this story - not that that's unusual with such an event. Bissonnette doesn't sound like he took the pledge to al-Baghdadi. Calling 911?
But the PB Frothers never, ever learn.
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Indeed. Liberal media are unbelievably out of touch.Tim_B said:
He is fulfilling a campaign promise, and it has broad support. Hardly a gesture.Jonathan said:
This is a political gesture for his right wing base. That is all.Tim_B said:
From what I recall the Paris attack was planned in Syria. Presumably this order was primarily a preventative measure.SouthamObserver said:
How many Americans have been killed by Syrian immigrants since 9/11, or those from any of the other six countries affected by the ban?Tim_B said:
9/11 was just one act. There have been many more terrorist acts worldwide since then, very few of which had Saudi or Egyptian folks involved.Scott_P said:
Not reallyTim_B said:Everyone seems to be calling this a 'muslim ban'. It's not - it's a ban on folks from countries which foment the most terrorists,
None of the 9/11 terrorists came from any of these countries, did they?0 -
The propagation of the idea that one particular demographic is responsible for one particular crime is pernicious.Casino_Royale said:
? Bit strong?TOPPING said:
Fucking arseholes. Insecure, naive arseholes with their funny "I bet he's called Geoff" comments,Jobabob said:
A perfect example of why the frothers should leave well alone. Some of the posts on here from earlier are real keepers.Dromedary said:Not much to go on regarding the motive in Quebec. There has been some professional-grade disinfo in this story - not that that's unusual with such an event. Bissonnette doesn't sound like he took the pledge to al-Baghdadi. Calling 911?
But the PB Frothers never, ever learn.
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When the target is a mosque it makes it more unlikely I'd sayTOPPING said:
The propagation of the idea that one particular demographic is responsible for one particular crime is pernicious.Casino_Royale said:
? Bit strong?TOPPING said:
Fucking arseholes. Insecure, naive arseholes with their funny "I bet he's called Geoff" comments,Jobabob said:
A perfect example of why the frothers should leave well alone. Some of the posts on here from earlier are real keepers.Dromedary said:Not much to go on regarding the motive in Quebec. There has been some professional-grade disinfo in this story - not that that's unusual with such an event. Bissonnette doesn't sound like he took the pledge to al-Baghdadi. Calling 911?
But the PB Frothers never, ever learn.
There is a balance between understanding the threat of radical Islam and the vilifying of a whole people.0 -
" Betting markets on the referendum and Trump showed no useful information. "TGOHF said:Matt Gootwin gets special treatment from Cummings... ooooft.
" they, and others in a similar position, had a strong incentive to game betting markets to increase their chances of large gains from inside knowledge"
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It really does sicken you when you hear morons like this pushing their pathetic lies. The Scottish people and the SNP do not and have never taken such a position , quite the opposite. You get a few morons like this on both sides of the border, they are to be pitied.Big_G_NorthWales said:
I remember my dear Scottish Father in Law saying that the Scots do not hate the English as he said they were impoverished as much as the Scots but it was the English aristocracy that were the problem. I should say I was very close to him, he was an outstanding Scottish fisherman with wonderful stories of the fishing and the folk and he was a very committed christianDixie said:
always playing the man, Malc. SNP hate the English as a nation as much as Trump hates the terrorists from Yemen. Hypocrites.malcolmg said:
Says a bellendDixie said:SNP in Commons talking as the racist bigots that they are. Picking thier nationality as their superiority. Same as Nazis and Orweillian 1984.
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It is terrorism.Theuniondivvie said:
Trudeau called it as terrorism. He's stuck with that now!TOPPING said:
Fucking arseholes. Insecure, naive arseholes with their funny "I bet he's called Geoff" comments,Jobabob said:
A perfect example of why the frothers should leave well alone. Some of the posts on here from earlier are real keepers.Dromedary said:Not much to go on regarding the motive in Quebec. There has been some professional-grade disinfo in this story - not that that's unusual with such an event. Bissonnette doesn't sound like he took the pledge to al-Baghdadi. Calling 911?
But the PB Frothers never, ever learn.
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Makes what more unlikely?isam said:
When the target is a mosque it makes it more unlikely I'd sayTOPPING said:
The propagation of the idea that one particular demographic is responsible for one particular crime is pernicious.Casino_Royale said:
? Bit strong?TOPPING said:
Fucking arseholes. Insecure, naive arseholes with their funny "I bet he's called Geoff" comments,Jobabob said:
A perfect example of why the frothers should leave well alone. Some of the posts on here from earlier are real keepers.Dromedary said:Not much to go on regarding the motive in Quebec. There has been some professional-grade disinfo in this story - not that that's unusual with such an event. Bissonnette doesn't sound like he took the pledge to al-Baghdadi. Calling 911?
But the PB Frothers never, ever learn.
There is a balance between understanding the threat of radical Islam and the vilifying of a whole people.0 -
Interesting.SouthamObserver said:Sky poll also finds that 49% are opposed to Trump-style ban of Moslems entering the UK; 34% in favour.
Also find it rather odd that PB is attempting to characterise the opposition to Trump's ban as 'extreme'. The debate in the HoC tonight was put forward by not only by Ed Miliband, but also by Nadhim Zahawi. The tone of many MPs on the centre-left was also reflected by several Conservative MPs on twitter, particularly in support of Nadhim Zahawi. Sarah Wollaston is only one example.
Some people only this site are really playing themselves if they truly believe that strong, strong opposition to this ban is limited to loony lefties.
Also re this ban going down well in the US - really? There are huge protests across several American cities. Trump's approval rating continues to decline; gallup reported today he broke the records in having a 51% disapproval rating within only eight days into his Presidency. It seems that rather than it only being the left that oppose Donald Trump, many Americans across the political spectrum seem to have a poor opinion of him, and his conduct as President of the United States.0 -
I agree.TOPPING said:
The propagation of the idea that one particular demographic is responsible for one particular crime is pernicious.Casino_Royale said:
? Bit strong?TOPPING said:
Fucking arseholes. Insecure, naive arseholes with their funny "I bet he's called Geoff" comments,Jobabob said:
A perfect example of why the frothers should leave well alone. Some of the posts on here from earlier are real keepers.Dromedary said:Not much to go on regarding the motive in Quebec. There has been some professional-grade disinfo in this story - not that that's unusual with such an event. Bissonnette doesn't sound like he took the pledge to al-Baghdadi. Calling 911?
But the PB Frothers never, ever learn.
There is a balance between understanding the threat of radical Islam and the vilifying of a whole people.
You just seemed disproportionately angry and out of character.0 -
Not quite sure what point you're making.Theuniondivvie said:
Trudeau called it as terrorism. He's stuck with that now!TOPPING said:
Fucking arseholes. Insecure, naive arseholes with their funny "I bet he's called Geoff" comments,Jobabob said:
A perfect example of why the frothers should leave well alone. Some of the posts on here from earlier are real keepers.Dromedary said:Not much to go on regarding the motive in Quebec. There has been some professional-grade disinfo in this story - not that that's unusual with such an event. Bissonnette doesn't sound like he took the pledge to al-Baghdadi. Calling 911?
But the PB Frothers never, ever learn.
Oh.
Opening fire on people in a place of worship is obviously terrorism.0 -
Bloody hell it must be bad if we're having to rely on Ramussen numbers!AndyJS said:Rasumussen finds Americans support Trump's travel ban by 57% to 33%:
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/immigration/january_2017/most_support_temporary_ban_on_newcomers_from_terrorist_havens0 -
Just a rumour but still (apologies if already posted);
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/455fe294-e66f-11e6-a93a-4fa396e7e4ed0 -
Not that out of touch according to the sky pollDixie said:
Indeed. Liberal media are unbelievably out of touch.Tim_B said:
He is fulfilling a campaign promise, and it has broad support. Hardly a gesture.Jonathan said:
This is a political gesture for his right wing base. That is all.Tim_B said:
From what I recall the Paris attack was planned in Syria. Presumably this order was primarily a preventative measure.SouthamObserver said:
How many Americans have been killed by Syrian immigrants since 9/11, or those from any of the other six countries affected by the ban?Tim_B said:
9/11 was just one act. There have been many more terrorist acts worldwide since then, very few of which had Saudi or Egyptian folks involved.Scott_P said:
Not reallyTim_B said:Everyone seems to be calling this a 'muslim ban'. It's not - it's a ban on folks from countries which foment the most terrorists,
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Yep, I know that.TOPPING said:
It is terrorism.Theuniondivvie said:
Trudeau called it as terrorism. He's stuck with that now!TOPPING said:
Fucking arseholes. Insecure, naive arseholes with their funny "I bet he's called Geoff" comments,Jobabob said:
A perfect example of why the frothers should leave well alone. Some of the posts on here from earlier are real keepers.Dromedary said:Not much to go on regarding the motive in Quebec. There has been some professional-grade disinfo in this story - not that that's unusual with such an event. Bissonnette doesn't sound like he took the pledge to al-Baghdadi. Calling 911?
But the PB Frothers never, ever learn.
Oh.
The original implication was that Trudeau almost immediately identifying it as terrorism would mean that once it turned out to be Muslims wot done it there couldn't be any 'mental illness' backtracking.0 -
Old liesHaroldO said:Just a rumour but still (apologies if already posted);
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/455fe294-e66f-11e6-a93a-4fa396e7e4ed0 -
Rasmussen had Hillary ahead by 2% nationally in its final poll in November, it got the popular vote spot on. I also doubt the numbers would be much different here outside of inner London and the big university citiesThe_Apocalypse said:
Bloody hell it must be bad if we're having to rely on Ramussen numbers!AndyJS said:Rasumussen finds Americans support Trump's travel ban by 57% to 33%:
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/immigration/january_2017/most_support_temporary_ban_on_newcomers_from_terrorist_havens0 -
Just had it up to here with a full day of it. I didn't respond at the time because I refused to do things (pre-judge) I dislike in others.Casino_Royale said:
I agree.TOPPING said:
The propagation of the idea that one particular demographic is responsible for one particular crime is pernicious.Casino_Royale said:
? Bit strong?TOPPING said:
Fucking arseholes. Insecure, naive arseholes with their funny "I bet he's called Geoff" comments,Jobabob said:
A perfect example of why the frothers should leave well alone. Some of the posts on here from earlier are real keepers.Dromedary said:Not much to go on regarding the motive in Quebec. There has been some professional-grade disinfo in this story - not that that's unusual with such an event. Bissonnette doesn't sound like he took the pledge to al-Baghdadi. Calling 911?
But the PB Frothers never, ever learn.
There is a balance between understanding the threat of radical Islam and the vilifying of a whole people.
You just seemed disproportionately angry and out of character.0 -
I had a primary school teacher just like him.FrancisUrquhart said:Spicer trying the angry teacher approach, but comes off a nervous agency one thrown in to teach the worse class in the school.
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One poll doesn't make Ramussen a reliable pollster overall. Several other polls also showed Clinton winning the popular vote as well. Ramussen is telling us Trump has a 59% approval rating while every other pollster is telling us otherwise.HYUFD said:
Rasmussen had Hillary ahead by 2% nationally in its final poll in November, it got the popular vote spot on. I also doubt the numbers would be much different here outside of inner London and the big university citiesThe_Apocalypse said:
Bloody hell it must be bad if we're having to rely on Ramussen numbers!AndyJS said:Rasumussen finds Americans support Trump's travel ban by 57% to 33%:
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/immigration/january_2017/most_support_temporary_ban_on_newcomers_from_terrorist_havens
EDIT: The Sky poll is showing that 49% oppose Trump's policy.0 -
Old? It's from this morning. Didn't realise it had been discredited.malcolmg said:
Old liesHaroldO said:Just a rumour but still (apologies if already posted);
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/455fe294-e66f-11e6-a93a-4fa396e7e4ed0 -
Trump's playing them all for suckers.The_Apocalypse said:
Interesting.SouthamObserver said:Sky poll also finds that 49% are opposed to Trump-style ban of Moslems entering the UK; 34% in favour.
Also find it rather odd that PB is attempting to characterise the opposition to Trump's ban as 'extreme'. The debate in the HoC tonight was put forward by not only by Ed Miliband, but also by Nadhim Zahawi. The tone of many MPs on the centre-left was also reflected by several Conservative MPs on twitter, particularly in support of Nadhim Zahawi. Sarah Wollaston is only one example.
Some people only this site are really playing themselves if they truly believe that strong, strong opposition to this ban is limited to loony lefties.
Also re this ban going down well in the US - really? There are huge protests across several American cities. Trump's approval rating continues to decline; gallup reported today he broke the records in having a 51% disapproval rating within only eight days into his Presidency. It seems that rather than it only being the left that oppose Donald Trump, many Americans across the political spectrum seem to have a poor opinion of him, and his conduct as President of the United States.
He hits them with some new indignation every day
Can anyone remember what last weeks gasps of incredulity were ?
The protests cant keep up with the pace. SCOTUS next this week, stand by for self righteous wailing
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Are they not the gold standard after 2016?The_Apocalypse said:
Bloody hell it must be bad if we're having to rely on Ramussen numbers!AndyJS said:Rasumussen finds Americans support Trump's travel ban by 57% to 33%:
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/immigration/january_2017/most_support_temporary_ban_on_newcomers_from_terrorist_havens
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If it's true she is a chump for not getting on this as an issue ASAP.Theuniondivvie said:The fucks are clustering.
https://twitter.com/LesleyRiddoch/status/826144403135791105
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Expect The report doesnt say that. In fact it specifically says they didn't know the details. only that trump was intending to put in place some sort of ban on refugees.Theuniondivvie said:The fucks are clustering.
https://twitter.com/LesleyRiddoch/status/8261444031357911050 -
I am opposed to the ban and the crass way it has been introduced. It is to be hoped the judiciary and sensible republicans can mitigate it. However it was Trump's policy and we need to see US polls on how the US are reacting.The_Apocalypse said:
Interesting.SouthamObserver said:Sky poll also finds that 49% are opposed to Trump-style ban of Moslems entering the UK; 34% in favour.
Also find it rather odd that PB is attempting to characterise the opposition to Trump's ban as 'extreme'. The debate in the HoC tonight was put forward by not only by Ed Miliband, but also by Nadhim Zahawi. The tone of many MPs on the centre-left was also reflected by several Conservative MPs on twitter, particularly in support of Nadhim Zahawi. Sarah Wollaston is only one example.
Some people only this site are really playing themselves if they truly believe that strong, strong opposition to this ban is limited to loony lefties.
Also re this ban going down well in the US - really? There are huge protests across several American cities. Trump's approval rating continues to decline; gallup reported today he broke the records in having a 51% disapproval rating within only eight days into his Presidency. It seems that rather than it only being the left that oppose Donald Trump, many Americans across the political spectrum seem to have a poor opinion of him, and his conduct as President of the United States.
There is a need not to give a knee jerk reaction and to pursue council with those close to Trump. We have managed to at least obtain a hearing and it would not be in our interests to prejeudice that understanding, as much as it would give us great pleasure to do so0 -
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They are as bad as him to be fairdr_spyn said:https://twitter.com/juliamacfarlane/status/826142731332366336
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The only who is getting played is Trump. For someone who sees himself as a man of the people, it looks like many of the American people are turning against him. And, looking at his twitter it's clearly getting under his skin.Alanbrooke said:
Trump's playing them all for suckers.The_Apocalypse said:
Interesting.SouthamObserver said:Sky poll also finds that 49% are opposed to Trump-style ban of Moslems entering the UK; 34% in favour.
Also find it rather odd that PB is attempting to characterise the opposition to Trump's ban as 'extreme'. The debate in the HoC tonight was put forward by not only by Ed Miliband, but also by Nadhim Zahawi. The tone of many MPs on the centre-left was also reflected by several Conservative MPs on twitter, particularly in support of Nadhim Zahawi. Sarah Wollaston is only one example.
Some people only this site are really playing themselves if they truly believe that strong, strong opposition to this ban is limited to loony lefties.
Also re this ban going down well in the US - really? There are huge protests across several American cities. Trump's approval rating continues to decline; gallup reported today he broke the records in having a 51% disapproval rating within only eight days into his Presidency. It seems that rather than it only being the left that oppose Donald Trump, many Americans across the political spectrum seem to have a poor opinion of him, and his conduct as President of the United States.
He hits them with some new indignation every day
Can anyone remember what last weeks gasps of incredulity were ?
The protests cant keep up with the pace. SCOTUS next this week, stand by for self righteous wailing
I also think that this mobilisation of the left is actually good thing. The Left for a long time has lacked direction and purpose. Perhaps Trump will spur them on to rectify that. I probably won't like the SCOTUS appointment. Is voicing opposition to something mean that someone is self righteously wailing? Really?
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We all pre judge. It's how we're made.TOPPING said:
Just had it up to here with a full day of it. I didn't respond at the time because I refused to do things (pre-judge) I dislike in others.Casino_Royale said:
I agree.TOPPING said:
The propagation of the idea that one particular demographic is responsible for one particular crime is pernicious.Casino_Royale said:
? Bit strong?TOPPING said:
Fucking arseholes. Insecure, naive arseholes with their funny "I bet he's called Geoff" comments,Jobabob said:
A perfect example of why the frothers should leave well alone. Some of the posts on here from earlier are real keepers.Dromedary said:Not much to go on regarding the motive in Quebec. There has been some professional-grade disinfo in this story - not that that's unusual with such an event. Bissonnette doesn't sound like he took the pledge to al-Baghdadi. Calling 911?
But the PB Frothers never, ever learn.
There is a balance between understanding the threat of radical Islam and the vilifying of a whole people.
You just seemed disproportionately angry and out of character.0
