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Trump does seem to be more serious and even a bit nervous. This is his first big press conference and good question by Laura K0
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If you had to choose anyone to stand next to to make yourself look good it would be Donald Trump. I've never seen her look more in command. Like Princess Di with Del Boy0
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Fine don't take it personally. I think everyone of the 17 million is an idiot. You can't help it many of you were duped, misled and tricked.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Insults confirm my commentsChris_A said:
No just pointing out the entirely foreseeable consequence to the idiots.Big_G_NorthWales said:Those who want to remain on this forum seem to be getting more desperate and extreme in their comments and doom and gloom
I think there may be a place for a remain grief counsellor to help their peace of mind0 -
Have you started early on the gin this evening Sean?SeanT said:Trump is actually being sane and almost.... lucid.
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Satirical news, but funny all the same: http://realnewsrightnow.com/2017/01/president-trump-orders-execution-five-turkeys-pardoned-obama/0
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I donated to the Remain cause, yes.Ishmael_Z said:
If the consequences of brexit were so foreseeable to you and so disastrous, then either you spent every spare hour you had in the weeks before the vote knocking on doors and manning phone lines to get the In vote out, or you are a complacent blowhard. Which?Chris_A said:
No just pointing out the entirely foreseeable consequence to the idiots.Big_G_NorthWales said:Those who want to remain on this forum seem to be getting more desperate and extreme in their comments and doom and gloom
I think there may be a place for a remain grief counsellor to help their peace of mind0 -
I am by nature a positive person and am confident that we can make a success of leaving and for Scotland too as I would want nothing lessmalcolmg said:
Conversely G it is your goodself that is getting more euphoric.Big_G_NorthWales said:Those who want to remain on this forum seem to be getting more desperate and extreme in their comments and doom and gloom
I think there may be a place for a remain grief counsellor to help their peace of mind0 -
Wondering what May will do to relax later. Gin and tonic probably won't cut it.0
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But I voted remainChris_A said:
Fine don't take it personally. I think everyone of the 17 million is an idiot. You can't help it many of you were duped, misled and tricked.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Insults confirm my commentsChris_A said:
No just pointing out the entirely foreseeable consequence to the idiots.Big_G_NorthWales said:Those who want to remain on this forum seem to be getting more desperate and extreme in their comments and doom and gloom
I think there may be a place for a remain grief counsellor to help their peace of mind0 -
So far this press conference is actually pretty okay.0
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Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear.Chris_A said:
Fine don't take it personally. I think everyone of the 17 million is an idiot. You can't help it many of you were duped, misled and tricked.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Insults confirm my commentsChris_A said:
No just pointing out the entirely foreseeable consequence to the idiots.Big_G_NorthWales said:Those who want to remain on this forum seem to be getting more desperate and extreme in their comments and doom and gloom
I think there may be a place for a remain grief counsellor to help their peace of mind0 -
Buy some really, really expensive shoes!Jonathan said:Wondering what May will do to relax later. Gin and tonic probably won't cut it.
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G's head is so far up Trumps erchie that I think he needs oxygenmalcolmg said:
Conversely G it is your goodself that is getting more euphoric.Big_G_NorthWales said:Those who want to remain on this forum seem to be getting more desperate and extreme in their comments and doom and gloom
I think there may be a place for a remain grief counsellor to help their peace of mind0 -
Have you yet accepted that the referendum was advisory, or is it your view that the Supreme Court got it wrong?ThreeQuidder said:
Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear.Chris_A said:
Fine don't take it personally. I think everyone of the 17 million is an idiot. You can't help it many of you were duped, misled and tricked.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Insults confirm my commentsChris_A said:
No just pointing out the entirely foreseeable consequence to the idiots.Big_G_NorthWales said:Those who want to remain on this forum seem to be getting more desperate and extreme in their comments and doom and gloom
I think there may be a place for a remain grief counsellor to help their peace of mind0 -
Ms. Apocalypse, what are you making of May's performance?0
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Do you seriously believe that? Really? You think the Leavers on here were duped, misled and tricked?Chris_A said:
Fine don't take it personally. I think everyone of the 17 million is an idiot. You can't help it many of you were duped, misled and tricked.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Insults confirm my commentsChris_A said:
No just pointing out the entirely foreseeable consequence to the idiots.Big_G_NorthWales said:Those who want to remain on this forum seem to be getting more desperate and extreme in their comments and doom and gloom
I think there may be a place for a remain grief counsellor to help their peace of mind0 -
Some needs to ask the Farage ambassador question0
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Enough of them, yes absolutely.John_M said:
Do you seriously believe that? Really? You think the Leavers on here were duped, misled and tricked?Chris_A said:
Fine don't take it personally. I think everyone of the 17 million is an idiot. You can't help it many of you were duped, misled and tricked.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Insults confirm my commentsChris_A said:
No just pointing out the entirely foreseeable consequence to the idiots.Big_G_NorthWales said:Those who want to remain on this forum seem to be getting more desperate and extreme in their comments and doom and gloom
I think there may be a place for a remain grief counsellor to help their peace of mind0 -
Sorry but this is garbage yet again. If you don't have medical insurance when you travel in Europe then you are a fool. Moreover long before Blair tried to do anything to Jury trials it was being pursued by the EU as part of their Corpus Juris project to unify all EU law under one code.rural_voter said:
No, but on balance it seems profoundly negative. Over 40 years, a lot of good legislation was imposed on us by the EU, e.g. the drinking water directive, the data protection directive. Meanwhile, Whitehall (i.e., the executive, overseen very badly by a parliament elected by FPTP) variously sought to abolish jury trial (Blair), created a regressive local government taxation system out of the wreckage of the poll tax (Thatcher), etc.SeanT said:
No, if you chop a leg off, you get nothing back. You've lost a leg. is all.Jonathan said:
More akin to chopping a leg off.SeanT said:
There will be damage. Again, consider it akin to childbirth. Anticipate drooping, stretchmarks, piles, pain and enervating tedium. But, a child.Richard_Nabavi said:
Yes, but membership of, and the physical location of, those types of institution are exactly the kinds of issue over which minor EU27 players will see that they have veto power which can be put to good pork-barrelling use. We, and the EU as a whole, could easily suffer considerable collateral damage.rcs1000 said:Yeah, but the EU wants our money, and it'd be cheaper for both of us to cut a deal.
Do you seriously believe there are NO upsides to taking back all our laws, government, rules, and democracy? To making our MPs responsible for EVERYTHING they do to us?
It's ridic to say this is all negative - "an amputation".
We don't yet know the cost of setting up UK government offices to do the work done for us by the EU for the net payment of £8 bn per year or so. It includes, e.g. writing and policing anti-trust legislation against companies like Google, Amazon, etc. Not cheap. Lots more to do besides.
Plus my European Health Insurance Card will no longer work and I'll need to take out medical insurance when I travel on the continent. As I did 20-40 years ago befpore the EHIC.0 -
Do not be silly - Trump is not for me but Theresa May is and is a great credit to the nationRoger said:
G's head is so far up Trumps erchie that I think he needs oxygenmalcolmg said:
Conversely G it is your goodself that is getting more euphoric.Big_G_NorthWales said:Those who want to remain on this forum seem to be getting more desperate and extreme in their comments and doom and gloom
I think there may be a place for a remain grief counsellor to help their peace of mind0 -
Certainly much better than thinking glass is empty all the time.Big_G_NorthWales said:
I am by nature a positive person and am confident that we can make a success of leaving and for Scotland too as I would want nothing lessmalcolmg said:
Conversely G it is your goodself that is getting more euphoric.Big_G_NorthWales said:Those who want to remain on this forum seem to be getting more desperate and extreme in their comments and doom and gloom
I think there may be a place for a remain grief counsellor to help their peace of mind0 -
It that case I salute your indefatigable optimism. It'll be needed.Big_G_NorthWales said:
But I voted remainChris_A said:
Fine don't take it personally. I think everyone of the 17 million is an idiot. You can't help it many of you were duped, misled and tricked.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Insults confirm my commentsChris_A said:
No just pointing out the entirely foreseeable consequence to the idiots.Big_G_NorthWales said:Those who want to remain on this forum seem to be getting more desperate and extreme in their comments and doom and gloom
I think there may be a place for a remain grief counsellor to help their peace of mind0 -
Some of them were doing the duping, misleading and tricking...John_M said:Do you seriously believe that? Really? You think the Leavers on here were duped, misled and tricked?
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I know you pay in the majority of EU countries but you should get the same terms as someone from that country would get. At least, that's what friends told me - he's English, she's a German citizen and they're very widely-travelled.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Voter, you should have such insurance when travelling in the EU anyway.
The health card only means you're not meant to be discriminated against, but if a member state only has minimal or no free healthcare, that's what you get.0 -
I think so far May is handling this 'situation' really well. I like her speech yesterday: especially her words on Russia, NATO etc. If she continues on this path I think fears (that I certainly had) that she would cosy up to Trump will be eased.Morris_Dancer said:Ms. Apocalypse, what are you making of May's performance?
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Ah, the "donation in lieu" card, the last refuge of the apathetic scoundrel. I hope you realise this is all your fault.Chris_A said:
I donated to the Remain cause, yes.Ishmael_Z said:
If the consequences of brexit were so foreseeable to you and so disastrous, then either you spent every spare hour you had in the weeks before the vote knocking on doors and manning phone lines to get the In vote out, or you are a complacent blowhard. Which?Chris_A said:
No just pointing out the entirely foreseeable consequence to the idiots.Big_G_NorthWales said:Those who want to remain on this forum seem to be getting more desperate and extreme in their comments and doom and gloom
I think there may be a place for a remain grief counsellor to help their peace of mind0 -
Loved the Nato trap by May, going to be difficult for him now to keep to his previous stance on it.0
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Mr. Voter, yes, that's my understanding too (not a traveller much but I did write about this sort of thing in the past). I would still advocate insurance anyway. In some countries you could end up with a hefty bill (for example, if you need an air ambulance).0
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Roger , that is harshRoger said:
G's head is so far up Trumps erchie that I think he needs oxygenmalcolmg said:
Conversely G it is your goodself that is getting more euphoric.Big_G_NorthWales said:Those who want to remain on this forum seem to be getting more desperate and extreme in their comments and doom and gloom
I think there may be a place for a remain grief counsellor to help their peace of mind0 -
Some will be disappointed it didn't have any fireworksSeanT said:YAY
He didn't goose her, or call the Queen a skank....
All slightly boring, and amiable, and exactly what they both wanted.0 -
Or humiliating for May when he does.jonny83 said:Loved the Nato trap by May, going to be difficult for him now to keep to his previous stance on it.
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Ms. Apocalypse, cheers. Not watching the conference myself (doing a spot of work) but it's useful to get the view of someone neither pro-May nor fanatically against.0
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My spidey sense is that the reason he's seeing May is that he wants to do some militarily against ISIS.0
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Thanks Malc - it was unacceptable - no one who follows me can say I support Trumpmalcolmg said:
Roger , that is harshRoger said:
G's head is so far up Trumps erchie that I think he needs oxygenmalcolmg said:
Conversely G it is your goodself that is getting more euphoric.Big_G_NorthWales said:Those who want to remain on this forum seem to be getting more desperate and extreme in their comments and doom and gloom
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I think they both need each other at presentJonathan said:My spidey sense is that the reason he's seeing May is that he wants to do some militarily against ISIS.
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Fillon could be in a bit more trouble... It's emerged that he also employed two of his children while they were students.0
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Ive just finished a wall in my garden and sent the bill to the Mexican Government,
Also invoiced them for sume patio furniture0 -
In other news, is there anyone left in the Labour party who hasn't been in the shadow cabinet?
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Ok, we need to recalibrate
Chasing through a kitchen is no longer the most demeaning thing a British PM has done to try and get a US president to like them...0 -
Trump makes John Prescott seem lucid.SeanT said:Trump is actually being sane and almost.... lucid.
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that would be Cameron letting Obama bitchslap him in front of both nationsScott_P said:Ok, we need to recalibrate
Chasing through a kitchen is no longer the most demeaning thing a British PM has done to try and get a US president to like them...0 -
May seems to have achieved what she set out to do on trade, NATO and torture.-1
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Mr. P, what's May done?
Mr. Glenn, super. Allez Macron!0 -
You're an Ulsterman. Call it a peace wall and you can get it paid for by the rest of us without anyone using the f word.Alanbrooke said:Ive just finished a wall in my garden and sent the bill to the Mexican Government,
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will you also fund my peace Aston Martin ?AlastairMeeks said:
You're an Ulsterman. Call it a peace wall and you can get it paid for by the rest of us without anyone using the f word.Alanbrooke said:Ive just finished a wall in my garden and sent the bill to the Mexican Government,
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Well, that could have been worse.
Trump meeting Gordon Brown for example.
I think we have gotten used to an era of very slick meet-and-greet politicians - Reagan, Clinton, Dubya, Obama, Blair, Cameron - all seemed very much at ease in these situations from the get go. Trump and May, still feeling their way.0 -
Yeah, it was a difficult gig and she seems to have handled it as well as it could be handled.David_Evershed said:May seems to have achieved what she set out to do on trade, NATO and torture.
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My general election winnings were swiped by an Ulsterman for his new vehicle, so worryingly there is precedent for that.Alanbrooke said:
will you also fund my peace Aston Martin ?AlastairMeeks said:
You're an Ulsterman. Call it a peace wall and you can get it paid for by the rest of us without anyone using the f word.Alanbrooke said:Ive just finished a wall in my garden and sent the bill to the Mexican Government,
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Not true at all, on the showing of this press conf.David_Evershed said:
Trump makes John Prescott seem lucid.SeanT said:Trump is actually being sane and almost.... lucid.
I thought the rescue of T May from having to opine about Mexico was very deft..0 -
Name one thing that is agreed and signed up to rather than lots of waffle and hot air. You are off your rocker.David_Evershed said:May seems to have achieved what she set out to do on trade, NATO and torture.
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It's like a jadahi jez PMQs, if it isn't a total clusterf##k that is what counts as a success!The_Apocalypse said:So far this press conference is actually pretty okay.
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Tomorrow's news cycle will be dominated by Trump dropping sanctions on Russia which will only make it visible to the world how little May's opinion counts.David_Evershed said:May seems to have achieved what she set out to do on trade, NATO and torture.
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Hypothetically, if Jeremy Corbyn were run over by a canary tomorrow, who would be the next Labour leader? Who would the erstwhile Corbyn supporters coalesce around?0
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http://www.lesoir.be/1427029/article/actualite/france/2017-01-27/fillon-employe-deux-ses-enfants-alors-qu-ils-etaient-encore-etudiants
Suggestion is Fillon paid his children for legal work, prior to qualification as lawyers.0 -
Predictable clap trapwilliamglenn said:
Tomorrow's news cycle will be dominated by Trump dropping sanctions on Russia which will only make it visible to the world how little May's opinion counts.David_Evershed said:May seems to have achieved what she set out to do on trade, NATO and torture.
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"We were the junior partner in 1940 when we were fighting the Nazis."Alanbrooke said:
that would be Cameron letting Obama bitchslap him in front of both nationsScott_P said:Ok, we need to recalibrate
Chasing through a kitchen is no longer the most demeaning thing a British PM has done to try and get a US president to like them...0 -
Mikhail Gorbachev says 'it looks like the world is preparing for war'
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/mikhail-gorbachev-ussr-last-soviet-premier-russia-world-prepare-war-syria-donald-trump-middle-east-a7548646.html
I think Gorbachev could be right, certainly Trump might start something by accident i.e. through a trade war with China rapidly escalating into a real military conflict. On the other side of the coin Russia are desperate to end sanctions and so he might be just saying this to create mood music that enables any arms agreement to be sold to the Russian public. I think Russia are in an unsustainable position where they will either have to invade and pillage or cut defence spending.0 -
MarqueeMark said:
Well, that could have been worse.
Trump meeting Gordon Brown for example.
I think we have gotten used to an era of very slick meet-and-greet politicians - Reagan, Clinton, Dubya, Obama, Blair, Cameron - all seemed very much at ease in these situations from the get go. Trump and May, still feeling their way.
May was sure footed. Trump less so.0 -
Trump meeting the queen and phhhhhillllipppph will be fun!0
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Certainly, Cameron was out of his mind when he invited Obama to lecture the UK on how to vote. I voted Remain but I do wonder if Obama intervening as he did probably swung it for Leave. Nobody likes a foreigner telling you what to do.Alanbrooke said:
that would be Cameron letting Obama bitchslap him in front of both nationsScott_P said:Ok, we need to recalibrate
Chasing through a kitchen is no longer the most demeaning thing a British PM has done to try and get a US president to like them...0 -
CNN reporting that May has persuaded Trump on Nato and giving her credit for it. And that is CNN0
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I had no idea he was still alive. As against that I met Norman Scott just before Christmas, which goes to show that people last longer than you think they do.The_Taxman said:Mikhail Gorbachev says 'it looks like the world is preparing for war'
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/mikhail-gorbachev-ussr-last-soviet-premier-russia-world-prepare-war-syria-donald-trump-middle-east-a7548646.html
I think Gorbachev could be right, certainly Trump might start something by accident i.e. through a trade war with China rapidly escalating into a real military conflict. On the other side of the coin Russia are desperate to end sanctions and so he might be just saying this to create mood music that enables any arms agreement to be sold to the Russian public. I think Russia are in an unsustainable position where they will either have to invade and pillage or cut defence spending.0 -
They are getting desperateAlanbrooke said:0 -
Yes, but I do genuinely think that she's being premature. She's aligned herself with the wing of the Republicans who want to rein Trump in and turn him into a 'normal' US President but I don't think they will succeed.SeanT said:
Are you terrified that TMay being a success might cement Brexit into place, even more? I'm guessing that's your motivation.williamglenn said:
Tomorrow's news cycle will be dominated by Trump dropping sanctions on Russia which will only make it visible to the world how little May's opinion counts.David_Evershed said:May seems to have achieved what she set out to do on trade, NATO and torture.
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Phil & Don playing Political Incorrectness Top Trumps?FrancisUrquhart said:Trump meeting the queen and phhhhhillllipppph will be fun!
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So long as Germany in particular starts spending 2% I think !Big_G_NorthWales said:CNN reporting that May has persuaded Trump on Nato and giving her credit for it. And that is CNN
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I think it was the belief that the whole of the UK had the same worship complex for Obama that the establishment and media does, where this genius Nobel.prize winner coild do no wrong.The_Taxman said:
Certainly, Cameron was out of his mind when he invited Obama to lecture the UK on how to vote. I voted Remain but I do wonder if Obama intervening as he did probably swung it for Leave. Nobody likes a foreigner telling you what to do.Alanbrooke said:
that would be Cameron letting Obama bitchslap him in front of both nationsScott_P said:Ok, we need to recalibrate
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Glad it wasn't just me who drew that conclusion. Trump could indeed be a transformative President - he is tearing up the old rule book of the US's place in the world and how it sees itself. My guess for the future is that he will secure some very big wins through to the medium term but hubris will, as hubris always does, will mean that he will overreach himself at some point and probably disastrously so. But on what?SeanT said:Trump did fine there. He was actually quite funny in places.
Intriguing.
Never seen anything like it in over 40 years observing politics. What's that Chinese curse?0 -
There you are William, something that you can legitimately campaign for.Alanbrooke said:0 -
I don't think he'll do it that fast. Why would he? He's protectionist; he'll quietly quite like the sanctions. Getting rid of them immediately would seem to confirm over-cosiness and the Russians would think him a walkover.williamglenn said:
Tomorrow's news cycle will be dominated by Trump dropping sanctions on Russia which will only make it visible to the world how little May's opinion counts.David_Evershed said:May seems to have achieved what she set out to do on trade, NATO and torture.
I think he'll want to co-operate militarily in Syria, get some results, change the complexion of things, then gradually reduce the sanctions.0 -
I thought it was a bit patronising. She can speak for herself - and she did.Ishmael_Z said:
Not true at all, on the showing of this press conf.David_Evershed said:
Trump makes John Prescott seem lucid.SeanT said:Trump is actually being sane and almost.... lucid.
I thought the rescue of T May from having to opine about Mexico was very deft..0 -
Chris A,Chris_A said:
Fine don't take it personally. I think everyone of the 17 million is an idiot. You can't help it many of you were duped, misled and tricked.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Insults confirm my commentsChris_A said:
No just pointing out the entirely foreseeable consequence to the idiots.Big_G_NorthWales said:Those who want to remain on this forum seem to be getting more desperate and extreme in their comments and doom and gloom
I think there may be a place for a remain grief counsellor to help their peace of mind
Given your assertion of omniscience - knowing as you do, the minds of seventeen million Leave voters - perhaps you could turn your attention to the minds of the Remain voters, and enlighten us mere mortals on the number of Remain voters that paid attention to the Treasury, IMF, BofE, etc predictions that the UK would go into recession immediately after the 23 June vote, and how many of them were duped, mislead and tricked by these Remain lies?0 -
I think the bar was low and she hopped over it well done her. Interesting Trump's comments about torture. He really is a mass of contradictions it's going to be a white knuckle ride that's for sure.
But what did Tezza achieve apart from nothing (in a positive sense)? She has met POTUS, they forged a relationship (v important, no doubt cf Yo Blair) but I don't see what else was achieved. The heavy lifting will be done by civil servants.
It's interesting that the UK is so on tenterhooks about life right now that a non-cataclysmic press conference by the PM with another head of state is hailed as a triumph.0 -
Stone cladding the wall.JohnO said:
Glad it wasn't just me who drew that conclusion. Trump could indeed be a transformative President - he is tearing up the old rule book of the US's place in the world and how it sees itself. My guess for the future is that he will secure some very big wins through to the medium term but hubris will, as hubris always does, will mean that he will overreach himself at some point and probably disastrously so. But on what?SeanT said:Trump did fine there. He was actually quite funny in places.
Intriguing.
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Theresa May is as much in favour of that as is TrumpPulpstar said:
So long as Germany in particular starts spending 2% I think !Big_G_NorthWales said:CNN reporting that May has persuaded Trump on Nato and giving her credit for it. And that is CNN
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Trump still can't stop himself from lying though. He wasn't at Turnberry on 22nd June. He only arrived in Scotland and the 23rd and visited there on the 24th.0
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Macron !dr_spyn said:http://www.lesoir.be/1427029/article/actualite/france/2017-01-27/fillon-employe-deux-ses-enfants-alors-qu-ils-etaient-encore-etudiants
Suggestion is Fillon paid his children for legal work, prior to qualification as lawyers.0 -
The Donald might twig that all British power consorts are Philips.isam said:
Phil & Don playing Political Incorrectness Top Trumps?FrancisUrquhart said:Trump meeting the queen and phhhhhillllipppph will be fun!
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Mr. Taxman, I agree on Obama. It was also interesting to compare the differing responses of the two sides (and neutrals) here after the 'back of the queue' comment.0
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It is not the UK on tenterhooks it is the EU and many countries worldwideTOPPING said:I think the bar was low and she hopped over it well done her. Interesting Trump's comments about torture. He really is a mass of contradictions it's going to be a white knuckle ride that's for sure.
But what did Tezza achieve apart from nothing (in a positive sense)? She has met POTUS, they forged a relationship (v important, no doubt cf Yo Blair) but I don't see what else was achieved. The heavy lifting will be done by civil servants.
It's interesting that the UK is so on tenterhooks about life right now that a non-cataclysmic press conference by the PM with another head of state is hailed as a triumph.0 -
I don't think he'll do it completely yet, just the post-election ones that Obama signed. I think Putin will make some gesture in return.Luckyguy1983 said:
I don't think he'll do it that fast. Why would he? He's protectionist; he'll quietly quite like the sanctions. Getting rid of them immediately would seem to confirm over-cosiness and the Russians would think him a walkover.williamglenn said:
Tomorrow's news cycle will be dominated by Trump dropping sanctions on Russia which will only make it visible to the world how little May's opinion counts.David_Evershed said:May seems to have achieved what she set out to do on trade, NATO and torture.
The leader of the pro-Russian 'Lugansk People's Republic' in eastern Ukraine died suddenly in Moscow today due to a heart attack, which I'm sure was absolutely not suspicious in any way...0 -
A killer point. If he has not resigned by this time tomorrow, impeachment is nailed on. Bet accordingly.Chris_A said:Trump still can't stop himself from lying though. He wasn't at Turnberry on 22nd June. He only arrived in Scotland and the 23rd and visited there on the 24th.
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So has Richard Branson given any further comments on stock market movements, the predicted financial meltdown and recession or the mystery cancelled deal which cost 3,000 jobs ?
' He told Good Morning Britain: “This country is going to go into recession, two of the worst days ever, banks being pounded means they’re not going to lend money and we’re going to go into recession.
He added: “It is not fine, we’re heading towards a disaster and in business, if you realise you’ve made a bad decision, you change it.”
Sir Richard revealed that his businesses had lost a third of their value since the leave vote.
He also claims he was about to do a "very big" business deal which would have supplied 3,000 jobs that has now had to be cancelled.
He added: “When Brexiters told the public that people were exaggerating that there would be a financial meltdown, I think it’s been proven that we’re not exaggerating." '
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/were-heading-towards-a-disaster-richard-branson-calls-for-second-eu-referendum-a3282651.html0 -
It's PB and Twitter that are on tenterhooks, two of the least representative fora in the UK. Most people will be completely oblivious, as usual. We are not normal.TOPPING said:I think the bar was low and she hopped over it well done her. Interesting Trump's comments about torture. He really is a mass of contradictions it's going to be a white knuckle ride that's for sure.
But what did Tezza achieve apart from nothing (in a positive sense)? She has met POTUS, they forged a relationship (v important, no doubt cf Yo Blair) but I don't see what else was achieved. The heavy lifting will be done by civil servants.
It's interesting that the UK is so on tenterhooks about life right now that a non-cataclysmic press conference by the PM with another head of state is hailed as a triumph.0 -
Nothing wrong with that as long as they did the legal work and didn't claim to be qualified lawyers.dr_spyn said:http://www.lesoir.be/1427029/article/actualite/france/2017-01-27/fillon-employe-deux-ses-enfants-alors-qu-ils-etaient-encore-etudiants
Suggestion is Fillon paid his children for legal work, prior to qualification as lawyers.
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Aren't we the opinion-formers, though?John_M said:
It's PB and Twitter that are on tenterhooks, two of the least representative fora in the UK. Most people will be completely oblivious, as usual.TOPPING said:I think the bar was low and she hopped over it well done her. Interesting Trump's comments about torture. He really is a mass of contradictions it's going to be a white knuckle ride that's for sure.
But what did Tezza achieve apart from nothing (in a positive sense)? She has met POTUS, they forged a relationship (v important, no doubt cf Yo Blair) but I don't see what else was achieved. The heavy lifting will be done by civil servants.
It's interesting that the UK is so on tenterhooks about life right now that a non-cataclysmic press conference by the PM with another head of state is hailed as a triumph.0 -
You might be Topping, dear old thing. I am a complete nobody.TOPPING said:
Aren't we the opinion-formers, hough?John_M said:
It's PB and Twitter that are on tenterhooks, two of the least representative fora in the UK. Most people will be completely oblivious, as usual.TOPPING said:I think the bar was low and she hopped over it well done her. Interesting Trump's comments about torture. He really is a mass of contradictions it's going to be a white knuckle ride that's for sure.
But what did Tezza achieve apart from nothing (in a positive sense)? She has met POTUS, they forged a relationship (v important, no doubt cf Yo Blair) but I don't see what else was achieved. The heavy lifting will be done by civil servants.
It's interesting that the UK is so on tenterhooks about life right now that a non-cataclysmic press conference by the PM with another head of state is hailed as a triumph.0 -
Yep. for example, on our future queen:FrancisUrquhart said:Trump meeting the queen and phhhhhillllipppph will be fun!
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/2477578670321172480 -
Mail covering Fillon - from earlier this evening.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/reuters/article-4165000/Fillons-French-presidential-bid-hurt-probe-wifes-work.html0 -
Lol.... awkward...foxinsoxuk said:
Yep. for example, on our future queen:FrancisUrquhart said:Trump meeting the queen and phhhhhillllipppph will be fun!
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There was a brilliant sketch on Mock the Week where Phillip met Sarkozy. He says...
" Have you seen the programme wifeswap"0
