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.@timfarron : Jeremy Corbyn has ceased to be Leader of the Opposition to become cheerleader in chief for the Conservative Brexit government”
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It is going excellently, given the events of today, just imagine how much fun a six week long general election campaign with Jeremy Corbyn front and centre will be.
https://twitter.com/steve_hawkes/status/8187481738502144010 -
Second like Labour, if they get lucky.0
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Farron is silly.0
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FPT:
This morning's interview's seem somewhat 'brave' of Mr Corbyn, as Sir Humphrey might once have said.
Not half as brave as @williamglen though, in calling @SeanT's £10k bet. Hope he didn't have too much whisky last night, but at least one can say he is prepared to put his money where his mouth is! Good luck to the pair of you, PB at its finest
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Indeed. Does he want Labour to get a grip and replace Corbyn?Jonathan said:Farron is silly.
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Mr. Jonathan, he is. But lucky to have Corbyn as Labour's leader.0
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Looks like the Labour party might lose its only tabloid supporter.
Mirror Group Newspapers in merger talks with Dirty Desmond's Express Newspapers
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/jan/09/trinity-mirror-in-merger-talks-with-express-newspapers?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter0 -
So Corbyn has annoyed the lefties and Guardianistas on freedom of movement, and the free marketeers and premier league football fans by calling for wage caps.
What's his plan for lunchtime?0 -
What is this - an actual position from Quiet Man Farron?!0
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Worst thing about this is that I'd definitely lose my Khan and Balls bets.
#savejeremy0 -
FPT:tlg86 said:
Presumably this will be followed by a round of 32. So essentially they've turned the current tournament into a knock out competition with more extra time and penalties. An utter disgrace.weejonnie said:
We have 8 groups of 4 at the moment? Total matches = 8*6 = 48malcolmg said:
Will be a tedious affair , extra weeks of meaningless dribble of some diddy teams getting humped and then a week of real football at the end. Will rake inmore cash though so the troughers in FIFA will be rubbing their hands.Slackbladder said:
More African and Asian countries probably.Philip_Thompson said:
So it will be for nations like Australia then.malcolmg said:
No chance , it is only 2 extra for Europe so we will still be miles away.TheScreamingEagles said:Looks like Scotland might actually qualify for a football world cup now
https://twitter.com/SkySportsNewsHQ/status/818754296892235777
16 groups of 3 becomes (I think) : 16 * 3 = 480 -
Who is this Tim Fallon that keeps getting mentioned in the Thread Headers?0
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English patriotism is on the rise at the expense of a sense of British identity, with voters in England increasingly likely to describe themselves as solely English, according to research.
The studyfound that almost a fifth of people describe themselves as English not British, up 5% from 2015, with more than a third of those surveyed describing themselves as either solely English or more English than British.
The YouGov data showed that the number of people who described themselves solely as British fell in 2016 from a year earlier. Last year just 18% of those surveyed said they felt only British or more British than English.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jan/10/english-patriotism-on-the-rise-research-shows?CMP=share_btn_tw0 -
You mean Fillonisam said:Who is this Tim Fallon that keeps getting mentioned in the Thread Headers?
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To announce he's use the flag of England as bog roll?tpfkar said:So Corbyn has annoyed the lefties and Guardianistas on freedom of movement, and the free marketeers and premier league football fans by calling for wage caps.
What's his plan for lunchtime?0 -
Hmm - very generous of Shadsy, I've just taken the 4-5 Corbyn 2019 or later here.0
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Disappointingly, SPIN are no longer doing markets on days in tenure for political leaders (I asked a while back with reference to Theresa May as Prime Minister). Today would definitely be a day to sell Jeremy Corbyn. He might well have brought his departure date forward by years today.0
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Publicity Shy Paddy Power have a market on Corbyn's exit date.
I'm too tired to work out if there's a potential arb or value here.
http://www.paddypower.com/bet/politics/other-politics/uk-politics?ev_oc_grp_ids=26028890 -
Mr. Eagles, unsurprising. A natural reaction to ever more power flowing to everywhere Not-England through devolution and the kickback against multi-culturalism.
Be nice if we got an English Parliament, but I can't see it happening anytime soon.0 -
The thing which will trigger corbyn going is dire local election results, so time to look at whats coming up this and next May?0
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I don't understand this whole issue with national identity.TheScreamingEagles said:English patriotism is on the rise at the expense of a sense of British identity, with voters in England increasingly likely to describe themselves as solely English, according to research.
The studyfound that almost a fifth of people describe themselves as English not British, up 5% from 2015, with more than a third of those surveyed describing themselves as either solely English or more English than British.
The YouGov data showed that the number of people who described themselves solely as British fell in 2016 from a year earlier. Last year just 18% of those surveyed said they felt only British or more British than English.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jan/10/english-patriotism-on-the-rise-research-shows?CMP=share_btn_tw
I was born English and will die English. I don't see I had much choice in the matter, given my Mother had the poor taste to give birth to me into terribly unfashionable Burton-on-Trent.0 -
We don't need an English Parliament.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Eagles, unsurprising. A natural reaction to ever more power flowing to everywhere Not-England through devolution and the kickback against multi-culturalism.
Be nice if we got an English Parliament, but I can't see it happening anytime soon.0 -
I reckon those YouGov/Wales poll might also be a tipping point too, I can actually see the Tories being ahead of Labour in both Wales & Scotland at the next general election (in votes, but not seats)AlastairMeeks said:Disappointingly, SPIN are no longer doing markets on days in tenure for political leaders (I asked a while back with reference to Theresa May as Prime Minister). Today would definitely be a day to sell Jeremy Corbyn. He might well have brought his departure date forward by years today.
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Being English is a state of mind, not what your passport says.John_M said:
I don't understand this whole issue with national identity.TheScreamingEagles said:English patriotism is on the rise at the expense of a sense of British identity, with voters in England increasingly likely to describe themselves as solely English, according to research.
The studyfound that almost a fifth of people describe themselves as English not British, up 5% from 2015, with more than a third of those surveyed describing themselves as either solely English or more English than British.
The YouGov data showed that the number of people who described themselves solely as British fell in 2016 from a year earlier. Last year just 18% of those surveyed said they felt only British or more British than English.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jan/10/english-patriotism-on-the-rise-research-shows?CMP=share_btn_tw
I was born English and will die English. I don't see I had much choice in the matter, given my Mother had the poor taste to give birth to me into terribly unfashionable Burton-on-Trent.0 -
Have I gone mad or is that an 84% book? If so there might be a smidgen of value in backing them all!!TheScreamingEagles said:Publicity Shy Paddy Power have a market on Corbyn's exit date.
I'm too tired to work out if there's a potential arb or value here.
http://www.paddypower.com/bet/politics/other-politics/uk-politics?ev_oc_grp_ids=2602889
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weejonnie said:
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We have 8 groups of 4 at the moment? Total matches = 8*6 = 48
16 groups of 3 becomes (I think) : 16 * 3 = 48
I stand corrected, however it will just be as boring as ever with one team per group instead of two going through. It is quantity over quality for the sake of it. Why not just dump qualifying and have them all play in the finals. It is a money making exercise just the same.0 -
That was last year.TheScreamingEagles said:
To announce he's use the flag of England as bog roll?tpfkar said:So Corbyn has annoyed the lefties and Guardianistas on freedom of movement, and the free marketeers and premier league football fans by calling for wage caps.
What's his plan for lunchtime?
14% best pm rating was it? how long before sub 10%0 -
Labour delaying the Copeland by-election until May 4th, and still losing it, would be a nightmare for Corbyn.Slackbladder said:The thing which will trigger corbyn going is dire local election results, so time to look at whats coming up this and next May?
Tories are already delivering leaflets in the area with Corbyn's many quotes about nuclear energy and weaponry, in announcing his resignation early Jamie Reed has given his party's opponents a head start in campaigning.0 -
Leader of the Opposition, 2025-2030?isam said:Who is this Tim Fallon that keeps getting mentioned in the Thread Headers?
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@bbclaurak: Corbyn tells me plans to reduce exploitation in work place will 'probably' reduce immigration but he still doesn't think levels are too high0
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"If Jeremy had 2 brains,,,,,,," LOLTheScreamingEagles said:It is going excellently, given the events of today, just imagine how much fun a six week long general election campaign with Jeremy Corbyn front and centre will be.
https://twitter.com/steve_hawkes/status/8187481738502144010 -
Couple of text messages from middle-class Labour supporter friends this morning..
The thing they're most annoyed about is the maximum salary cap. They've cottoned on to it *very* quickly.0 -
We already have a de facto English parliamentTheScreamingEagles said:
We don't need an English Parliament.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Eagles, unsurprising. A natural reaction to ever more power flowing to everywhere Not-England through devolution and the kickback against multi-culturalism.
Be nice if we got an English Parliament, but I can't see it happening anytime soon.0 -
@jessicaelgot: Corbyn says comparisons to Trump are "more than slightly bizarre"
@youngvulgarian: YOUR OWN TEAM BRIEFED THAT OUT JEREMY, YOUR OWN TEAM twitter.com/jessicaelgot/s…0 -
ROFLTheScreamingEagles said:Publicity Shy Paddy Power have a market on Corbyn's exit date.
I'm too tired to work out if there's a potential arb or value here.
http://www.paddypower.com/bet/politics/other-politics/uk-politics?ev_oc_grp_ids=2602889
It is an 84% book by itself.
34 0.029
26 0.038
17 0.059
13 0.077
1.57 0.63
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Any value?!Pulpstar said:
ROFLTheScreamingEagles said:Publicity Shy Paddy Power have a market on Corbyn's exit date.
I'm too tired to work out if there's a potential arb or value here.
http://www.paddypower.com/bet/politics/other-politics/uk-politics?ev_oc_grp_ids=2602889
It is an 84% book by itself.
Are they the worst prices in the history of bookmaking or am I missing something?? @Tissue_Price ???0 -
I think we have to entertain the idea that Corbyn has been set up here [by Milne & McDonnell, presumably].
Cui bono?0 -
Dunno I've just backed them all with the profit on the 4-7.isam said:
Any value?Pulpstar said:
ROFLTheScreamingEagles said:Publicity Shy Paddy Power have a market on Corbyn's exit date.
I'm too tired to work out if there's a potential arb or value here.
http://www.paddypower.com/bet/politics/other-politics/uk-politics?ev_oc_grp_ids=2602889
It is an 84% book by itself.0 -
Diane Abbott and Richard Burgon.Tissue_Price said:I think we have to entertain the idea that Corbyn has been set up here [by Milne & McDonnell, presumably].
Cui bono?0 -
DO they settle on 1 January 2018 or will they wait?Pulpstar said:
ROFLTheScreamingEagles said:Publicity Shy Paddy Power have a market on Corbyn's exit date.
I'm too tired to work out if there's a potential arb or value here.
http://www.paddypower.com/bet/politics/other-politics/uk-politics?ev_oc_grp_ids=2602889
It is an 84% book by itself.
34 0.029
26 0.038
17 0.059
13 0.077
1.57 0.63
0.840 -
Ha, that's funny, shame I cant get on with them from the sandpit.Pulpstar said:
ROFLTheScreamingEagles said:Publicity Shy Paddy Power have a market on Corbyn's exit date.
I'm too tired to work out if there's a potential arb or value here.
http://www.paddypower.com/bet/politics/other-politics/uk-politics?ev_oc_grp_ids=2602889
It is an 84% book by itself.
34 0.029
26 0.038
17 0.059
13 0.077
1.57 0.63
0.84
I guess if I send someone to a shop to bet on all the possibilities, they'll probably smell a rat and ruin it for everyone else. Good luck to everyone else filling their boots!0 -
The only issue is that over-broke books are pretty palpable. God knows what they're doing.isam said:
Any value?!Pulpstar said:
ROFLTheScreamingEagles said:Publicity Shy Paddy Power have a market on Corbyn's exit date.
I'm too tired to work out if there's a potential arb or value here.
http://www.paddypower.com/bet/politics/other-politics/uk-politics?ev_oc_grp_ids=2602889
It is an 84% book by itself.
Are they the worst prices in the history of bookmaking or am I missing something?? @Tissue_Price ???0 -
Fallon being the champion of unlimited immigration perhaps puts a cap on his potential % support and geographically limits any potential gains.
I guess when your MPs can fit in a transit van then that probably isn't limiting your ambition that much...0 -
Some say Corbyn's younger brother Jeff works on Paddy Power's odds.0
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Sean, Did you manage to agree a frame on your £10K bet.SeanT said:
He's managing to turn a potentially attractive new policy into a negative.Scott_P said:@bbclaurak: Corbyn tells me plans to reduce exploitation in work place will 'probably' reduce immigration but he still doesn't think levels are too high
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He won't be there. One of the most significant comments last year was McCluskey saying that Corbyn will have to consider his options if the poll ratings don't improve. Tories have convinced themselves he will still be there because they want him to still be there.TheScreamingEagles said:It is going excellently, given the events of today, just imagine how much fun a six week long general election campaign with Jeremy Corbyn front and centre will be.
https://twitter.com/steve_hawkes/status/818748173850214401
I don't think a Tory majority in 2020 is nailed on and have bet accordingly. Brexit turning sour, May dithering, Lib Dems picking up 20 or 30 seats in South & South West and Labour with a new leader comfortably holding its own seats and even picking up a few.0 -
Mr. T, I think that's possible. However, worth noting that Labour dithered and faffed so much that when they had late doubts about Miliband, they'd run out of road. Obviously, they're more openly antagonistic towards Corbyn, but the deed still needs t be done.0
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The 4-7 makes a 100% book with Ladbrokes though, so that isn't a palp by any stretch.Tissue_Price said:
The only issue is that over-broke books are pretty palpable. God knows what they're doing.isam said:
Any value?!Pulpstar said:
ROFLTheScreamingEagles said:Publicity Shy Paddy Power have a market on Corbyn's exit date.
I'm too tired to work out if there's a potential arb or value here.
http://www.paddypower.com/bet/politics/other-politics/uk-politics?ev_oc_grp_ids=2602889
It is an 84% book by itself.
Are they the worst prices in the history of bookmaking or am I missing something?? @Tissue_Price ???0 -
Seant's, by a long way. I think that a 2019 departure is at least a 70% chance.Pulpstar said:
Which side of the bet would you rather be on btw ?david_herdson said:Further to my suggestion of terms for the bet between Seant and williamglenn, I've tried to refine it further. Would the following be acceptable:
Brexit is the process of the UK withdrawing from its membership of the EU. It shall be complete when the following criteria are all met:
1. The UK government has served notice of its intention to withdraw from the EU under Article 50(2) of the TEU.
2. No revocation of the notification detailed in (1) shall have been given by the UK and accepted by the EU.
3. The exit date, as defined in Article 50(3) of the TEU, shall have passed i.e. at least one of the following sub-criteria shall have been met:
a. Two years shall have elapsed from the notification in (1) without a withdrawal agreement as defined in Article 50(3) being agreed, or
b. A withdrawal agreement between the EU and the UK shall have been agreed and the date on which that agreement takes effect shall have passed.
4. No agreement shall have been reached by which the UK retains continuous membership of the EU at the conclusion of the withdrawal process, due to the UK agreeing a new membership with the EU to begin at the moment the old membership expires.0 -
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Paddy has tied up with Betfair though, so its probably the same geniuses that were sorting the US POTUS turnout market pricing up the books.0
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He'll be there because there is no formal mechanism to remove him. They tried, remember? Even if the unions were to threaten to remove or reduce funding, Corbyn could attempt a direct appeal for finance via his cultists.OllyT said:
He won't be there. One of the most significant comments last year was McCluskey saying that Corbyn will have to consider his options if the poll ratings don't improve. Tories have convinced themselves he will still be there because they want him to still be there.TheScreamingEagles said:It is going excellently, given the events of today, just imagine how much fun a six week long general election campaign with Jeremy Corbyn front and centre will be.
https://twitter.com/steve_hawkes/status/818748173850214401
I don't think a Tory majority in 2020 is nailed on and have bet accordingly. Brexit turning sour, May dithering, Lib Dems picking up 20 or 30 seats in South & South West and Labour with a new leader comfortably holding its own seats and even picking up a few.
I do agree about the dangers of hubris. A Tory majority should be nailed on, but the Conservatives are perfectly capable of shooting themselves in both feet.
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we demand to know Mrs May, and you must first get it approved by the PB Parliament or we'll take you to courtSeanT said:
Not yet. Negotiations continue. Won't give a running commentary. Etc....malcolmg said:
Sean, Did you manage to agree a frame on your £10K bet.SeanT said:
He's managing to turn a potentially attractive new policy into a negative.Scott_P said:@bbclaurak: Corbyn tells me plans to reduce exploitation in work place will 'probably' reduce immigration but he still doesn't think levels are too high
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My piece for Sunday lists the only things that will stop Brexit happening, they aredavid_herdson said:
Seant's, by a long way. I think that a 2019 departure is at least a 70% chance.Pulpstar said:
Which side of the bet would you rather be on btw ?david_herdson said:Further to my suggestion of terms for the bet between Seant and williamglenn, I've tried to refine it further. Would the following be acceptable:
Brexit is the process of the UK withdrawing from its membership of the EU. It shall be complete when the following criteria are all met:
1. The UK government has served notice of its intention to withdraw from the EU under Article 50(2) of the TEU.
2. No revocation of the notification detailed in (1) shall have been given by the UK and accepted by the EU.
3. The exit date, as defined in Article 50(3) of the TEU, shall have passed i.e. at least one of the following sub-criteria shall have been met:
a. Two years shall have elapsed from the notification in (1) without a withdrawal agreement as defined in Article 50(3) being agreed, or
b. A withdrawal agreement between the EU and the UK shall have been agreed and the date on which that agreement takes effect shall have passed.
4. No agreement shall have been reached by which the UK retains continuous membership of the EU at the conclusion of the withdrawal process, due to the UK agreeing a new membership with the EU to begin at the moment the old membership expires.
1) A financial crash on a par with the great depression
2) World War III
3) A global pandemic
4) A zombie apocalypse
5) The rapture
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Corbyn is there until he decides he's had enough of the job, I guess the question is will he go once the polls drop below 20% and hundreds of councillors are losing seats, or will he hang on until the election in 2019 or 2020. Personally I think the latter.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. T, I think that's possible. However, worth noting that Labour dithered and faffed so much that when they had late doubts about Miliband, they'd run out of road. Obviously, they're more openly antagonistic towards Corbyn, but the deed still needs t be done.
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Not sure I follow all the technicalities here, but Paddy is a singles only bet. Otherwise what an earner.Pulpstar said:
The 4-7 makes a 100% book with Ladbrokes though, so that isn't a palp by any stretch.Tissue_Price said:
The only issue is that over-broke books are pretty palpable. God knows what they're doing.isam said:
Any value?!Pulpstar said:
ROFLTheScreamingEagles said:Publicity Shy Paddy Power have a market on Corbyn's exit date.
I'm too tired to work out if there's a potential arb or value here.
http://www.paddypower.com/bet/politics/other-politics/uk-politics?ev_oc_grp_ids=2602889
It is an 84% book by itself.
Are they the worst prices in the history of bookmaking or am I missing something?? @Tissue_Price ???0 -
Casino_Royale said:
Couple of text messages from middle-class Labour supporter friends this morning..
The thing they're most annoyed about is the maximum salary cap. They've cottoned on to it *very* quickly.
Corbyn really is stupid. If he'd targeted those top executives in publicly quoted companies who are taking the p*** with their salaries, he would get support. Talking about entertainers like footballers (who are liked, if overpaid) and general max salaries will just push people away.
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Not a story that is commonly told:
https://twitter.com/conortdarcy/status/818752903276097536
I expect this chart will have to make a few reappearances, given that it conflicts with the narrative of many on here.0 -
You have forgotten the Diane Abbot factor :-)OllyT said:
He won't be there. One of the most significant comments last year was McCluskey saying that Corbyn will have to consider his options if the poll ratings don't improve. Tories have convinced themselves he will still be there because they want him to still be there.TheScreamingEagles said:It is going excellently, given the events of today, just imagine how much fun a six week long general election campaign with Jeremy Corbyn front and centre will be.
https://twitter.com/steve_hawkes/status/818748173850214401
I don't think a Tory majority in 2020 is nailed on and have bet accordingly. Brexit turning sour, May dithering, Lib Dems picking up 20 or 30 seats in South & South West and Labour with a new leader comfortably holding its own seats and even picking up a few.0 -
Lol, I turn sky news on to see jahadi jez proposing a wage cap. Aside from it being idiotic, That is Charlotte church type celebs off the list of jez supporters.
And with brilliant news management knocked the anti-immigration move out of the headlines.0 -
You do realise that your bet has ensured the one thing you expressed a desire not to happen on PB.SeanT said:
He's managing to turn a potentially attractive new policy into a negative.Scott_P said:@bbclaurak: Corbyn tells me plans to reduce exploitation in work place will 'probably' reduce immigration but he still doesn't think levels are too high
Constant, and I mean constant discussion of the EU and whether we will, are about to, or just did leave it.
Edit: Hurrah!0 -
My national identity is extremely strong as an emotion. I'm guessing it comes from my teachers mostly in the late 70s/early 80s who were mostly ex-colonial types - they were very proud of our history/had lived all over the world and gave us first hand personal accounts of life in Africa, the Caribbean, India et al.John_M said:
I don't understand this whole issue with national identity.TheScreamingEagles said:English patriotism is on the rise at the expense of a sense of British identity, with voters in England increasingly likely to describe themselves as solely English, according to research.
The studyfound that almost a fifth of people describe themselves as English not British, up 5% from 2015, with more than a third of those surveyed describing themselves as either solely English or more English than British.
The YouGov data showed that the number of people who described themselves solely as British fell in 2016 from a year earlier. Last year just 18% of those surveyed said they felt only British or more British than English.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jan/10/english-patriotism-on-the-rise-research-shows?CMP=share_btn_tw
I was born English and will die English. I don't see I had much choice in the matter, given my Mother had the poor taste to give birth to me into terribly unfashionable Burton-on-Trent.0 -
My tax bills would support that analysis.AlastairMeeks said:Not a story that is commonly told:
https://twitter.com/conortdarcy/status/818752903276097536
I expect this chart will have to make a few reappearances, given that it conflicts with the narrative of many on here.0 -
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Surely Jezza's Luvvies will just become even more hypocritical, complaining loudly and publicly about inequality and supporting the wage cap, while keeping their own millions offshore or in trusts?FrancisUrquhart said:Lol, I turn sky news on to see jahadi jez proposing a wage cap. Aside from it being idiotic, That is Charlotte church type celebs off the list of jez supporters.
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What does "disposable" income actually mean. Is that before or after food and/or rent, bills etc ?AlastairMeeks said:Not a story that is commonly told:
https://twitter.com/conortdarcy/status/818752903276097536
I expect this chart will have to make a few reappearances, given that it conflicts with the narrative of many on here.0 -
Even better. Hunt has been saved on the NHS 'wrong type of patients' in A&E front.FrancisUrquhart said:Lol, I turn sky news on to see jahadi jez proposing a wage cap. Aside from it being idiotic, That is Charlotte church type celebs off the list of jez supporters.
And with brilliant news management knocked the anti-immigration move out of the headlines.0 -
@wallaceme: The Government might be having a bad week if the Opposition wasn't run with all the poise of a drunk rhino in a ball pool.0
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Mike - Do you honestly think Labour will be better served competing with the Lib Dems to be continuity Remain instead of accepting the referendum result and providing their vision of Leave?
Didn't the vast majority of "middle England" Tory/Lab marginal constituencies back Leave?
Seems that any Labour leader (even one infinitely more plausible than Corbyn) is caught between a rock and a hard place of either giving a gift to Farron or a gift to May. Given that Labour oppose the Tories more than they oppose the Lib Dems a gift to Farron seems to be the right and inevitable decision.-1 -
Even if it has traction as an idea. Why the hell do it today, when NHS (the one good thing you have in your pocket) is across most newspapers?MarkHopkins said:Casino_Royale said:Couple of text messages from middle-class Labour supporter friends this morning..
The thing they're most annoyed about is the maximum salary cap. They've cottoned on to it *very* quickly.
Corbyn really is stupid. If he'd targeted those top executives in publicly quoted companies who are taking the p*** with their salaries, he would get support. Talking about entertainers like footballers (who are liked, if overpaid) and general max salaries will just push people away.0 -
Rhinoist.Scott_P said:@wallaceme: The Government might be having a bad week if the Opposition wasn't run with all the poise of a drunk rhino in a ball pool.
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That's a great graph, showing the positive impact of increased income tax allowances and minimum wage increases is higher than the negative impact of tax credit withdrawal.AlastairMeeks said:Not a story that is commonly told:
https://twitter.com/conortdarcy/status/818752903276097536
I expect this chart will have to make a few reappearances, given that it conflicts with the narrative of many on here.
Credit to George Osborne!0 -
Good point...who could forget labours celebrity poster boy at the last GE & his families hypocrisy over tax.Sandpit said:
Surely Jezza's Luvvies will just become even more hypocritical, complaining about inequality and supporting the wage cap, while keeping their own millions offshore or in trusts?FrancisUrquhart said:Lol, I turn sky news on to see jahadi jez proposing a wage cap. Aside from it being idiotic, That is Charlotte church type celebs off the list of jez supporters.
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I don't understand the furore of the suggestion that "non-urgent" patients may not be seen in A&E in four hours. It was always my thought that A&E was for urgent cases only and that non-urgent cases should go to their GP or a pharmacy or whatever else is appropriate.rottenborough said:
Even better. Hunt has been saved on the NHS 'wrong type of patients' in A&E front.FrancisUrquhart said:Lol, I turn sky news on to see jahadi jez proposing a wage cap. Aside from it being idiotic, That is Charlotte church type celebs off the list of jez supporters.
And with brilliant news management knocked the anti-immigration move out of the headlines.
So why not just say if you go to A&E with a non-urgent issue you will be sent home with instructions to see the right person rather than seen in more than four hours?0 -
looks like shes been on a heavy night outTheScreamingEagles said:0 -
Bet she wishes Boris had driven her home nowAlanbrooke said:
looks like shes been on a heavy night outTheScreamingEagles said:0 -
It really is most entertaining. To everyone who isn't on fat cat banker millions - it's a straight tax on success.FrancisUrquhart said:Lol, I turn sky news on to see jahadi jez proposing a wage cap. Aside from it being idiotic, That is Charlotte church type celebs off the list of jez supporters.
And with brilliant news management knocked the anti-immigration move out of the headlines.
I'm sure Benedict Cumberbatch or Michael Sheen or rich business Labour donors love it as much as Vince's Mansion Tax constituents.0 -
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Post Office close&franchise further 37 Crown offices,losing around 300 staff,and will cut 127 financial specialists, price of privatisation
Does she realise the Post Office is still in state hands?!0 -
It's a perfectly valid strategy and the message has the benefit of being unambiguous vs Lab/Cons all over the place on it.Philip_Thompson said:Mike - Do you honestly think Labour will be better served competing with the Lib Dems to be continuity Remain instead of accepting the referendum result and providing their vision of Leave?
Didn't the vast majority of "middle England" Tory/Lab marginal constituencies back Leave?
Seems that any Labour leader (even one infinitely more plausible than Corbyn) is caught between a rock and a hard place of either giving a gift to Farron or a gift to May. Given that Labour oppose the Tories more than they oppose the Lib Dems a gift to Farron seems to be the right and inevitable decision.0 -
Not sure I get that. Why is baselined to 1977 when the chart starts at 2007?AlastairMeeks said:Not a story that is commonly told:
https://twitter.com/conortdarcy/status/818752903276097536
I expect this chart will have to make a few reappearances, given that it conflicts with the narrative of many on here.
Even if it's a typo it does undermine confidence in the data.0 -
I thought Brexit was The Rapture.TheScreamingEagles said:
My piece for Sunday lists the only things that will stop Brexit happening, they aredavid_herdson said:
Seant's, by a long way. I think that a 2019 departure is at least a 70% chance.Pulpstar said:
Which side of the bet would you rather be on btw ?david_herdson said:Further to my suggestion of terms for the bet between Seant and williamglenn, I've tried to refine it further. Would the following be acceptable:
Brexit is the process of the UK withdrawing from its membership of the EU. It shall be complete when the following criteria are all met:
1. The UK government has served notice of its intention to withdraw from the EU under Article 50(2) of the TEU.
2. No revocation of the notification detailed in (1) shall have been given by the UK and accepted by the EU.
3. The exit date, as defined in Article 50(3) of the TEU, shall have passed i.e. at least one of the following sub-criteria shall have been met:
a. Two years shall have elapsed from the notification in (1) without a withdrawal agreement as defined in Article 50(3) being agreed, or
b. A withdrawal agreement between the EU and the UK shall have been agreed and the date on which that agreement takes effect shall have passed.
4. No agreement shall have been reached by which the UK retains continuous membership of the EU at the conclusion of the withdrawal process, due to the UK agreeing a new membership with the EU to begin at the moment the old membership expires.
1) A financial crash on a par with the great depression
2) World War III
3) A global pandemic
4) A zombie apocalypse
5) The rapture
6) A Carrington event0 -
Well the last 24hrs of jez reboot has gone down like a doorstep visit from Nigel farage with my jezzas supporting "friends" on social media.0
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Depends on your viewpoint, Brexit is the The Book of Revelation for some.rcs1000 said:
I thought Brexit was The Rapture.TheScreamingEagles said:
My piece for Sunday lists the only things that will stop Brexit happening, they aredavid_herdson said:
Seant's, by a long way. I think that a 2019 departure is at least a 70% chance.Pulpstar said:
Which side of the bet would you rather be on btw ?david_herdson said:Further to my suggestion of terms for the bet between Seant and williamglenn, I've tried to refine it further. Would the following be acceptable:
Brexit is the process of the UK withdrawing from its membership of the EU. It shall be complete when the following criteria are all met:
1. The UK government has served notice of its intention to withdraw from the EU under Article 50(2) of the TEU.
2. No revocation of the notification detailed in (1) shall have been given by the UK and accepted by the EU.
3. The exit date, as defined in Article 50(3) of the TEU, shall have passed i.e. at least one of the following sub-criteria shall have been met:
a. Two years shall have elapsed from the notification in (1) without a withdrawal agreement as defined in Article 50(3) being agreed, or
b. A withdrawal agreement between the EU and the UK shall have been agreed and the date on which that agreement takes effect shall have passed.
4. No agreement shall have been reached by which the UK retains continuous membership of the EU at the conclusion of the withdrawal process, due to the UK agreeing a new membership with the EU to begin at the moment the old membership expires.
1) A financial crash on a par with the great depression
2) World War III
3) A global pandemic
4) A zombie apocalypse
5) The rapture
6) A Carrington event0 -
Ah yes, but havent all those luvvies got tax accountants so that only the little people payPlatoSaid said:
It really is most entertaining. To everyone who isn't on fat cat banker millions - it's a straight tax on success.FrancisUrquhart said:Lol, I turn sky news on to see jahadi jez proposing a wage cap. Aside from it being idiotic, That is Charlotte church type celebs off the list of jez supporters.
And with brilliant news management knocked the anti-immigration move out of the headlines.
I'm sure Benedict Cumberbatch or Michael Sheen or rich business Labour donors love it as much as Vince's Mansion Tax constituents.
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Link says it all...
https://order-order.com/2017/01/10/mosley-im-no-longer-fascist-im-now-labour-member/0 -
The true test will be if they actually pay taxes here.SeanT said:Snapchat to set up their new international HQ in London. "Despite Brexit"
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/jan/10/snapchat-snap-inc-international-hub-uk0 -
Perfectly sensible imho. Problem is, how to operate such a system? GPs in the A&E who triage?Philip_Thompson said:
I don't understand the furore of the suggestion that "non-urgent" patients may not be seen in A&E in four hours. It was always my thought that A&E was for urgent cases only and that non-urgent cases should go to their GP or a pharmacy or whatever else is appropriate.rottenborough said:
Even better. Hunt has been saved on the NHS 'wrong type of patients' in A&E front.FrancisUrquhart said:Lol, I turn sky news on to see jahadi jez proposing a wage cap. Aside from it being idiotic, That is Charlotte church type celebs off the list of jez supporters.
And with brilliant news management knocked the anti-immigration move out of the headlines.
So why not just say if you go to A&E with a non-urgent issue you will be sent home with instructions to see the right person rather than seen in more than four hours?
There was a consultant A&E guy on TV last night, saying that they had spent 20 years trying to educate the public not to come to A&E if not urgent and it has failed utterly, so something new has to be tried.0 -
See also the UK entry here:AlastairMeeks said:Not a story that is commonly told:
twitter.com/conortdarcy/status/818752903276097536
I expect this chart will have to make a few reappearances, given that it conflicts with the narrative of many on here.
https://twitter.com/janzilinsky/status/8168806330457210890 -
Well his father (grandfather?) was a Labour MP for a while, before getting disgruntled with lack of progress iirc.FrancisUrquhart said:0 -
Have to become profitable first...haven't they just had to raise a load more money?rcs1000 said:
The true test will be if they actually pay taxes here.SeanT said:Snapchat to set up their new international HQ in London. "Despite Brexit"
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/jan/10/snapchat-snap-inc-international-hub-uk0 -
Which bit of reboot has gone badly?FrancisUrquhart said:Well the last 24hrs of jez reboot has gone down like a doorstep visit from Nigel farage with my jezzas supporting "friends" on social media.
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It maybe the 'End of Times' to othersTheScreamingEagles said:
Depends on your viewpoint, Brexit is the The Book of Revelation for some.rcs1000 said:
I thought Brexit was The Rapture.TheScreamingEagles said:
My piece for Sunday lists the only things that will stop Brexit happening, they aredavid_herdson said:
Seant's, by a long way. I think that a 2019 departure is at least a 70% chance.Pulpstar said:
Which side of the bet would you rather be on btw ?david_herdson said:Further to my suggestion of terms for the bet between Seant and williamglenn, I've tried to refine it further. Would the following be acceptable:
Brexit is the process of the UK withdrawing from its membership of the EU. It shall be complete when the following criteria are all met:
1. The UK government has served notice of its intention to withdraw from the EU under Article 50(2) of the TEU.
2. No revocation of the notification detailed in (1) shall have been given by the UK and accepted by the EU.
3. The exit date, as defined in Article 50(3) of the TEU, shall have passed i.e. at least one of the following sub-criteria shall have been met:
a. Two years shall have elapsed from the notification in (1) without a withdrawal agreement as defined in Article 50(3) being agreed, or
b. A withdrawal agreement between the EU and the UK shall have been agreed and the date on which that agreement takes effect shall have passed.
4. No agreement shall have been reached by which the UK retains continuous membership of the EU at the conclusion of the withdrawal process, due to the UK agreeing a new membership with the EU to begin at the moment the old membership expires.
1) A financial crash on a par with the great depression
2) World War III
3) A global pandemic
4) A zombie apocalypse
5) The rapture
6) A Carrington event
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Interestingly the top 1% have done well - the other 19% of the top quintile (who probably think of themselves as middle earners) much less soCasino_Royale said:
Not sure I get that. Why is baselined to 1977 when the chart starts at 2007?AlastairMeeks said:Not a story that is commonly told:
https://twitter.com/conortdarcy/status/818752903276097536
I expect this chart will have to make a few reappearances, given that it conflicts with the narrative of many on here.
Even if it's a typo it does undermine confidence in the data.0 -
Someone should ask him if it's reasonable that a high profile member of a political party should be responsible for funding the press regulator?FrancisUrquhart said:0 -
Basically if you lay out £84 on that Paddy Power market, you are guaranteed to win £16 whatever happens.rottenborough said:
Not sure I follow all the technicalities here, but Paddy is a singles only bet. Otherwise what an earner.Pulpstar said:
The 4-7 makes a 100% book with Ladbrokes though, so that isn't a palp by any stretch.Tissue_Price said:
The only issue is that over-broke books are pretty palpable. God knows what they're doing.isam said:
Any value?!Pulpstar said:
ROFLTheScreamingEagles said:Publicity Shy Paddy Power have a market on Corbyn's exit date.
I'm too tired to work out if there's a potential arb or value here.
http://www.paddypower.com/bet/politics/other-politics/uk-politics?ev_oc_grp_ids=2602889
It is an 84% book by itself.
Are they the worst prices in the history of bookmaking or am I missing something?? @Tissue_Price ???
The most obvious value bet in the history of bookmaking, impossible to miss. The equivalent of someone offering 11/8 Heads 11/8 Tails on the toss of a coin0 -
Here's a full chart up to 2014/2015, over the longer term the picture isn't as rosy as the previous image implies.Casino_Royale said:
Not sure I get that. Why is baselined to 1977 when the chart starts at 2007?AlastairMeeks said:Not a story that is commonly told:
https://twitter.com/conortdarcy/status/818752903276097536
I expect this chart will have to make a few reappearances, given that it conflicts with the narrative of many on here.
Even if it's a typo it does undermine confidence in the data.0
