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I think with stretched public finances a rail link plus toll road makes sense.Mortimer said:
Both would be great.MaxPB said:
Seems rather pointless to me, a fast rail link (30 minute direct journey) makes a lot more sense to me.Mortimer said:
Maybe we're talking about different things. He specifically mentioned express way:MaxPB said:
Isn't it refurbishment of the Varsity Line? Makes more sense than a road.Mortimer said:
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/oxford-to-cambridge-expressway-strategic-study-interim-report
Ox to Cam is a right trek either way at the moment.0 -
Oooh, Hammond abolishing the Autumn Statement and budget moving to Autumn ow0
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Are employee share purchase schemes from gross salary under threat ?TheScreamingEagles said:I don't like Philip Hammond, these tax on perks is very unfair
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There are a lot of events between now and next May, but absent a big external shock, I just don't see the way she can move the FN score from 29-30% where it has been for three years up north of 40%.Dromedary said:
Yes indeed. I think she needs to sell the line that if you want Frexit, then vote for her in the first round, and she needs to get a big score in the first round, if not a majority than maybe 45%+. To be in with a big chance she will probably need to be at least close to 40% in the polls. But a lot can happen in a week, and if she can nail her colours on to it somehow... The "Arab question" looms.rcs1000 said:
Unlikely because the FN is very transfer unfriendly. Look at the French Departmental elections last year (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_departmental_elections,_2015). Despite being the leading party in the opinion polls for them, they ended up with just 62 seats out of 3,000, because in the second round that got hammered everywhere.Dromedary said:French National Front performance in presidential (PR), regional (RE) and European parliamentary (EP) elections this century:
PR 2002a 17% (2nd)
PR 2002b 18%
RE 2004 15% (3rd)
EP 2004 10% (4th)
PR 2007a 10% (4th)
EP 2009 6% (6th)
RE 2010 11% (3rd)
Jan 2011 Marine takes over
PR 2012 18% (3rd)
EP 2014 25% (1st)
RE 2015 28% (1st)
Can she make PR2017 into a warmup for Frexit?
Figures for UKIP in general elections and European parliamentary elections:
GE
2001 1.5%
2005 2.2%
2010 3.1%
2015 12.6%
EP
1994 1.0%
1999 6.7%
2004 16.1%
2009 16.6%
2014 27.5%
(Brexit referendum 2016 51.9% Leave)
I want to put this in context for a second.
The Communist Party got 1.3% of the vote in the first round, one twentieth of what the FN got. But the Communists ended up with twice the number of seats. Les Republicains supporters voted Communist in the second round rather than FN.
I would also point of that the Front National is polling exactly the same now as it was then; i.e c.30%.
To my mind, her best chance is if she is facing the five dwarves in the first round: Melenchon, Bayrou, Fillon, Macron and a Socialist, and all of them end up in the mid-teens, potentially resulting in Le Pen vs Melenchon.
I suspect more likely is that Bayrou drops out, endorses Macron, and he ends up in the low 20s, ahead of Fillon in the high teens. I can see a lot of Socialist and Left Front voters plumping for Macron to avoid a Fillon vs Le Pen run-off.0 -
I think he’s referring to the main infrastructure which is presently fibre/copper and stickytape.DecrepitJohnL said:Hammond knows less about the interwebs than Corbyn shock: "My ambition is for the UK to be a world leader in 5G. That means a full-fibre network"
5G is wireless, not fibre.0 -
Oh good. We never did need it.TheScreamingEagles said:Oooh, Hammond abolishing the Autumn Statement.
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Hammond abolishes Autumn Statement making it an Autumn Budget0
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Abolishing the Autumn Statement.
Autumn 2017 will be an Autumn Budget.
Spring 2018 - a Spring Statement instead of the Budget!
Much hilarity in the House.....0 -
Hurrah! No more autumn statements.
Edit: Autumn budget. Good move.0 -
We're getting Autumn budget and spring statements from Autumn 2017MaxPB said:
Oh good. We never did need it.TheScreamingEagles said:Oooh, Hammond abolishing the Autumn Statement.
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@EdConwaySky: Hang on. Basically the Budget will now happen in the Autumn. The Autumn Statement will happen in the Spring.0
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DecrepitJohnL knows less than Hammond shock. If not fibre what provides the backend to 5G in your eyes - fairy dust?DecrepitJohnL said:Hammond knows less about the interwebs than Corbyn shock: "My ambition is for the UK to be a world leader in 5G. That means a full-fibre network"
5G is wireless, not fibre.0 -
I dare say it will need some electricity as well. Desirable as a full-fibre network might be, it has damn all to do with 5G.MaxPB said:
The backbone would have to run off a fibre network because 5G doesn't have as good coverage as 4G or 3G.DecrepitJohnL said:Hammond knows less about the interwebs than Corbyn shock: "My ambition is for the UK to be a world leader in 5G. That means a full-fibre network"
5G is wireless, not fibre.0 -
He's moving the budget from spring to autumn. Not cool, Phillip. Not cool at all.0
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He was only the second person in 50 years to be rejected by the Senate Judiciary Committee for a federal judge position. He was rejected because of concerns over his ability to offer impartial judgements in cases involving African-Americans.PlatoSaid said:
I'm very well aware of it. That's the thing about being on the unfashionable side - we have to read rather than smear. Go on - tell me what horrors Sessions has in the cupboard are. Not innuendo or smears - just provable facts.SouthamObserver said:
Hmmm - surprisingly you seem not to be fully aware of Jeff Session's record. Whoever would have thought it?PlatoSaid said:
IIRC there are about 8000 KKK members in the USA. From a population of 325m.MP_SE said:
If you significant.SouthamObserver said:
Hillary was a very poor candidate. People vote for a variety of reasons. But that does not stop Trump being a racebaiter, I'm afraid. There is a reason why he was endorsed by the KKK.PlatoSaid said:
[SouthamObserver said:
snipMaxPB said:
The only way to win in the future is to change minds and listen to those who are suffering. Trump is not the cause, he is a symptom. That he has chosen to align himself with unsavoury and some downright racists is beyond lamentable, but as I said no use in fighting yesterday's battles. Especially using the same tactics that lost. Using language like deplorables, racist and other liberal go to phrases has, IMO, lead to Trump as much as economic decline. The same is true here for all of those Northern industrial towns that backed Brexit.SouthamObserver said:snip
Fighting tomorrow's battles against the same opponents will require new tactics and much more humility than Clinton's camp showed.
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There are probably more people who are into black dwarf disabled sex porn.
Anyone who uses this pathetic group of sad losers as a yardstick for anything deserves derision.
That Sessions from decades ago either.
Sessions got segregation abolished in many Alabama schools, campaigned successfully for the death penalty of a Klansman re murder of black teen and advocated for Rosa Parks.
Still, let's not let facts get in the way of a good smear. PBers who claim to be keen on facts, aren't so keen on those that don't fit their prejudices.
Good grief.
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No opportunity now for a March pre-election giveaway?0
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I'm warming to the guy.david_herdson said:
- Prosecuting HillaryPlatoSaid said:
What has he reneged on so far?david_herdson said:
Do you think he'll win in 2020, and if so, why?PlatoSaid said:
Carry on believing what suits you, Hillary lost. I could expend pixels listing her failings too.SouthamObserver said:
He's clearly smart. He is also a crook, a sexual predator, a friend to white supremacists and anti-semites, a mocker of the disabled and a liar. In your world, that is not a problem. You like him for it. But other people don't. You are just going to have to accept that and live with it. Not everyone snuggles up to race-baiters.PlatoSaid said:
Glad you reposted that - I honestly can't understand how smart people here can't see it. It smacks me in the face everytime he does it.
Every tweet is designed to distract/dead cat/create a trap/troll/cause an emotional response.
And yet 90% of Leftists and NeverTrumpers fall straight into outrage/call him stupid.
Their entire reaction is predicated on their evidence free comfort blanket that a billionaire property developer/14 series reality star [how many last that long?]/non-politico killed off 16 professional rivals and now POTUS Elect ...is a nitwit.
Yeah, right. It's all some weird thing that's entirely unconnected with his talent for connecting with people/business nous over 70yrs. And they think they're smarter sat in the chairs of their cubicles - good grief.
Personally, I expect him to lose spectacularly. I wouldn't be overly surprised if he's not even nominated if he goes on reneging on campaign promises as he has this last fortnight.
- Paris Climate deal withdrawal
- The Wall (or it not necessarily being a wall)
- Repealing Obamacare
To name a few.0 -
Quick, reverse ferret!MaxPB said:
Oh good. We never did need it.TheScreamingEagles said:Oooh, Hammond abolishing the Autumn Statement.
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No it will not - should listen to the full explanationScott_P said:@EdConwaySky: Hang on. Basically the Budget will now happen in the Autumn. The Autumn Statement will happen in the Spring.
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Except in 2017...MarqueeMark said:No opportunity now for a March pre-election giveaway?
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5G will not be possible without a proper fibre backbone network to handle the data.DecrepitJohnL said:
I dare say it will need some electricity as well. Desirable as a full-fibre network might be, it has damn all to do with 5G.MaxPB said:
The backbone would have to run off a fibre network because 5G doesn't have as good coverage as 4G or 3G.DecrepitJohnL said:Hammond knows less about the interwebs than Corbyn shock: "My ambition is for the UK to be a world leader in 5G. That means a full-fibre network"
5G is wireless, not fibre.0 -
£1.4 billion investment will deliver 40,000 new homes?
That's £35,000 per house - AFAIK current support rate limits (in Scotland at least) are £42,000 per new council-built housing unit, £63,000 if Housing Association sourced.
Does anyone have the equivalent E&W stat?0 -
That was a rabbit-free zone, I think.0
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Golly, David - you're a very sophisticated chap and coming out with this?david_herdson said:
- Prosecuting HillaryPlatoSaid said:
What has he reneged on so far?david_herdson said:
Do you think he'll win in 2020, and if so, why?PlatoSaid said:
Carry on believing what suits you, Hillary lost. I could expend pixels listing her failings too.SouthamObserver said:
He's clearly smart. He is also a crook, a sexual predator, a friend to white supremacists and anti-semites, a mocker of the disabled and a liar. In your world, that is not a problem. You like him for it. But other people don't. You are just going to have to accept that and live with it. Not everyone snuggles up to race-baiters.PlatoSaid said:
Glad you reposted that - I honestly can't understand how smart people here can't see it. It smacks me in the face everytime he does it.
Every tweet is designed to distract/dead cat/create a trap/troll/cause an emotional response.
And yet 90% of Leftists and NeverTrumpers fall straight into outrage/call him stupid.
Their entire reaction is predicated on their evidence free comfort blanket that a billionaire property developer/14 series reality star [how many last that long?]/non-politico killed off 16 professional rivals and now POTUS Elect ...is a nitwit.
Yeah, right. It's all some weird thing that's entirely unconnected with his talent for connecting with people/business nous over 70yrs. And they think they're smarter sat in the chairs of their cubicles - good grief.
Personally, I expect him to lose spectacularly. I wouldn't be overly surprised if he's not even nominated if he goes on reneging on campaign promises as he has this last fortnight.
- Paris Climate deal withdrawal
- The Wall (or it not necessarily being a wall)
- Repealing Obamacare
To name a few.
- His AG once apptd will decide on a Special Prosecutor - he can't do it as it's not been within POTUS powers since pre Watergate. You know that.
- I haven't seen anything about Paris chatter wise - I get hundreds of US Trump tweets a day so clearly missed this somehow.
- The Wall isn't about bricks like China or East Germany - it's what's appropriate for the terrain vs risk. So a 15ft fence or a solid barrier or drones/CCTV watching 500miles in the desert as required. No one but anti-Trump literalists thinks he's building a la Hadrian. We both know that.
- The pre-existing conditions and kids up to 26yrs old were in the original GOP motions that never got a look in re the ACA given Obama did an Exec Order. Another none issue.
I'm genuinely surprised that you've suggested such nonsense.0 -
No, plan isMarqueeMark said:No opportunity now for a March pre-election giveaway?
March 2017 budget
November 2017 budget
March 2018 Spring statement
November 2018 budget
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Furious gluing-together of betting slips!Tissue_Price said:
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Not sure, I suspect it might be once we see the detail.TGOHF said:
Are employee share purchase schemes from gross salary under threat ?TheScreamingEagles said:I don't like Philip Hammond, these tax on perks is very unfair
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It is precisely a key part of 5G and prior networks were copper based rather than fibre. If prior networks didn't use electricity then this one using it would be noteworthy.DecrepitJohnL said:
I dare say it will need some electricity as well. Desirable as a full-fibre network might be, it has damn all to do with 5G.MaxPB said:
The backbone would have to run off a fibre network because 5G doesn't have as good coverage as 4G or 3G.DecrepitJohnL said:Hammond knows less about the interwebs than Corbyn shock: "My ambition is for the UK to be a world leader in 5G. That means a full-fibre network"
5G is wireless, not fibre.0 -
Nah, we don't need two statements and having the main one half way through the financial year seems a bit odd.Tissue_Price said:
Quick, reverse ferret!MaxPB said:
Oh good. We never did need it.TheScreamingEagles said:Oooh, Hammond abolishing the Autumn Statement.
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Hammond can do rabbits/dead cats then.0
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Unless much worse than expected borrowing requirements counts as a "rabbit"Richard_Nabavi said:That was a rabbit-free zone, I think.
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Already bored with Labour's response0
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Suspect the future might be paying bonuses into pension schemes as they are exempt.TheScreamingEagles said:
Not sure, I suspect it might be once we see the detail.TGOHF said:
Are employee share purchase schemes from gross salary under threat ?TheScreamingEagles said:I don't like Philip Hammond, these tax on perks is very unfair
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Moving the budget will earn a lot of column inches within the Westminster bubble. A free rabbit.Richard_Nabavi said:That was a rabbit-free zone, I think.
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Poor old McDonnell - BBC and Sky not covering his response0
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President of South Korea has just resigned.0
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Wow - what in Hammond's statement pissed him off that much?timmo said:President of South Korea has just resigned.
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It's on BBC2Big_G_NorthWales said:Poor old McDonnell - BBC and Sky not covering his response
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Fibre yes; full fibre no. And the 5G part of 5G is still wireless.Philip_Thompson said:
It is precisely a key part of 5G and prior networks were copper based rather than fibre. If prior networks didn't use electricity then this one using it would be noteworthy.DecrepitJohnL said:
I dare say it will need some electricity as well. Desirable as a full-fibre network might be, it has damn all to do with 5G.MaxPB said:
The backbone would have to run off a fibre network because 5G doesn't have as good coverage as 4G or 3G.DecrepitJohnL said:Hammond knows less about the interwebs than Corbyn shock: "My ambition is for the UK to be a world leader in 5G. That means a full-fibre network"
5G is wireless, not fibre.0 -
Right - so in the 80s they rejected him - and what about since then? Nothing. Piffle smearing. You've confirmed that you're a useful idiot that's been reduced to shouting Waycist on cue.SouthamObserver said:
He was only the second person in 50 years to be rejected by the Senate Judiciary Committee for a federal judge position. He was rejected because of concerns over his ability to offer impartial judgements in cases involving African-Americans.PlatoSaid said:
I'm very well aware of it. That's the thing about being on the unfashionable side - we have to read rather than smear. Go on - tell me what horrors Sessions has in the cupboard are. Not innuendo or smears - just provable facts.SouthamObserver said:
Hmmm - surprisingly you seem not to be fully aware of Jeff Session's record. Whoever would have thought it?PlatoSaid said:
IIRC there are about 8000 KKK members in the USA. From a population of 325m.MP_SE said:
If you significant.SouthamObserver said:
Hillary was a very poor candidate. People vote for a variety of reasons. But that does not stop Trump being a racebaiter, I'm afraid. There is a reason why he was endorsed by the KKK.PlatoSaid said:
[SouthamObserver said:
snipMaxPB said:
The only way to win in the future is to change minds and listen to those who are suffering. Trump is not the cause, he is a symptom. That he has chosen to align himself with unsavoury and some downright racists is beyond lamentable, but as I said no use in fighting yesterday's battles. Especially using the same tactics that lost. Using language like deplorables, racist and other liberal go to phrases has, IMO, lead to Trump as much as economic decline. The same is true here for all of those Northern industrial towns that backed Brexit.SouthamObserver said:snip
Fighting tomorrow's battles against the same opponents will require new tactics and much more humility than Clinton's camp showed.
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There are probably more people who are into black dwarf disabled sex porn.
Anyone who uses this pathetic group of sad losers as a yardstick for anything deserves derision.
That Sessions from decades ago either.
Sessions got segregation abolished in many Alabama schools, campaigned successfully for the death penalty of a Klansman re murder of black teen and advocated for Rosa Parks.
Still, let's not let facts get in the way of a good smear. PBers who claim to be keen on facts, aren't so keen on those that don't fit their prejudices.
Good grief.0 -
Hopefully McDonnell will have a prop to liven it up.Blue_rog said:Already bored with Labour's response
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Good to see the white supremacist assassin of Jo Cox get a life means life sentence. The bravery she showed that day was truly remarkable. I hope that at some stage knowing that she died a hero will give her family a degree of comfort.0
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As I understand it, the budget (currently in the Spring) sets out the tax and welfare regime, total revenues and total expenditures, while the Autumn statement determines what the revenues get spent on. As the budget and expenditure statement are obviously linked, it makes sense to bring the two together.Mortimer said:Hurrah! No more autumn statements.
Edit: Autumn budget. Good move.0 -
Nobody watches news on BBC do they.Blue_rog said:
It's on BBC2Big_G_NorthWales said:Poor old McDonnell - BBC and Sky not covering his response
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When he was British ambassador to Israel, Matthew Gould attended the opening of the Leeds hasbara centre. Meanwhile the current Israeli ambassador to Britain, Mark Regev, used in practice to run the BBC news coverage whenever the Israelis were conducting mass slaughter against civilians in Gaza.Dromedary said:
Quite ironic given JFK's father's performance as US ambassador in London and how he got the well-deserved order of the boot in 1940.PlatoSaid said:Awww - that'd be JFK
Harry Cole
This is ace from @BBCJLandale - https://t.co/o0eWCFw0Gi In 1961 a President Elect lobbied for his choice of UK ambassador after NYC meeting https://t.co/rqn3EI0vXn
A president-elect of one country who pushes publicly for his favoured person to become another country's ambassador in his own country really doesn't understand stuff. Donald "I want, so why can't I get" Trump.
The line that "there's no vacancy" is very soft. It should be "Britain chooses its own ambassadors". Without consulting the host countries. Well, except if the host country is the Holy See or Israel.
Could you imagine the British ambassador to Russia being guest of honour at the opening of a Russian "troll army" centre in Britain? Or the BBC has just heard that Soviet troops have invaded Afghanistan, so we're handing over now to the Soviet army's communications chief for 90% of the following news item?0 -
"Scandalous!" booms McDonnell.
Barely a murmur from the Labour ranks.0 -
I presume he's going to a "proper" prison?SouthamObserver said:Good to see the white supremacist assassin of Jo Cox get a life means life sentence. The bravery she showed that day was truly remarkable. I hope that at some stage knowing that she died a hero will give her family a degree of comfort.
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Hear, hear.SouthamObserver said:Good to see the white supremacist assassin of Jo Cox get a life means life sentence. The bravery she showed that day was truly remarkable. I hope that at some stage knowing that she died a hero will give her family a degree of comfort.
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Right, I'm off to watch S2 of Lucifer and Grand Tour. Looking forward to an afternoon of great entertainment...0
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Bercow threatened all the backbench MPsMarqueeMark said:"Scandalous!" booms McDonnell.
Barely a murmur from the Labour ranks.
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Thirded.Tissue_Price said:
Hear, hear.SouthamObserver said:Good to see the white supremacist assassin of Jo Cox get a life means life sentence. The bravery she showed that day was truly remarkable. I hope that at some stage knowing that she died a hero will give her family a degree of comfort.
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It will require a minimum of 100Gbps per node, which is significantly more than what BT have been installing. The only way 5G works is if each node works as a cell which needs huge fibre requirements. 5G won't work without a serious fibre network. I think this is part of why Vodafone have begun to invest in their own fibre and why the synergies for EE and BT were so huge.DecrepitJohnL said:
Fibre yes; full fibre no. And the 5G part of 5G is still wireless.Philip_Thompson said:
It is precisely a key part of 5G and prior networks were copper based rather than fibre. If prior networks didn't use electricity then this one using it would be noteworthy.DecrepitJohnL said:
I dare say it will need some electricity as well. Desirable as a full-fibre network might be, it has damn all to do with 5G.MaxPB said:
The backbone would have to run off a fibre network because 5G doesn't have as good coverage as 4G or 3G.DecrepitJohnL said:Hammond knows less about the interwebs than Corbyn shock: "My ambition is for the UK to be a world leader in 5G. That means a full-fibre network"
5G is wireless, not fibre.0 -
Well said.SouthamObserver said:Good to see the white supremacist assassin of Jo Cox get a life means life sentence. The bravery she showed that day was truly remarkable. I hope that at some stage knowing that she died a hero will give her family a degree of comfort.
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He is terribly boring and uninspiring. Labour MP's must be in despairMarqueeMark said:"Scandalous!" booms McDonnell.
Barely a murmur from the Labour ranks.0 -
The UK's national news brands rated in order of trust: from the BBC down to the Daily StarBig_G_NorthWales said:
Nobody watches news on BBC do they.Blue_rog said:
It's on BBC2Big_G_NorthWales said:Poor old McDonnell - BBC and Sky not covering his response
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+1SouthamObserver said:Good to see the white supremacist assassin of Jo Cox get a life means life sentence. The bravery she showed that day was truly remarkable. I hope that at some stage knowing that she died a hero will give her family a degree of comfort.
Glad they aee throwing away the key as well.0 -
For the record, that means the 18.5 you can get on Macron is a FANTASTIC bet.rcs1000 said:There are a lot of events between now and next May, but absent a big external shock, I just don't see the way she can move the FN score from 29-30% where it has been for three years up north of 40%.
To my mind, her best chance is if she is facing the five dwarves in the first round: Melenchon, Bayrou, Fillon, Macron and a Socialist, and all of them end up in the mid-teens, potentially resulting in Le Pen vs Melenchon.
I suspect more likely is that Bayrou drops out, endorses Macron, and he ends up in the low 20s, ahead of Fillon in the high teens. I can see a lot of Socialist and Left Front voters plumping for Macron to avoid a Fillon vs Le Pen run-off.0 -
Says someone who observed Democrats formed the KKK in the 1860s. :-DPlatoSaid said:
Right - so in the 80s they rejected him - and what about since then? Nothing. Piffle smearing. You've confirmed that you're a useful idiot that's been reduced to shouting Waycist on cue.SouthamObserver said:
He was only the second person in 50 years to be rejected by the Senate Judiciary Committee for a federal judge position. He was rejected because of concerns over his ability to offer impartial judgements in cases involving African-Americans.PlatoSaid said:
I'm very well aware of it. That's the thing about being on the unfashionable side - we have to read rather than smear. Go on - tell me what horrors Sessions has in the cupboard are. Not innuendo or smears - just provable facts.SouthamObserver said:
Hmmm - surprisingly you seem not to be fully aware of Jeff Session's record. Whoever would have thought it?PlatoSaid said:
IIRC there are about 8000 KKK members in the USA. From a population of 325m.MP_SE said:
If you significant.SouthamObserver said:
Hillary was a very poor candidate. People vote for a variety of reasons. But that does not stop Trump being a racebaiter, I'm afraid. There is a reason why he was endorsed by the KKK.PlatoSaid said:
[SouthamObserver said:
snipMaxPB said:
The backed Brexit.SouthamObserver said:snip
Fighting tomorrow's battles against the same opponents will require new tactics and much more humility than Clinton's camp showed.
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There are probably more people who are into black dwarf disabled sex porn.
Anyone who uses this pathetic group of sad losers as a yardstick for anything deserves derision.
That Sessions from decades ago either.
Sessions got segregation abolished in many Alabama schools, campaigned successfully for the death penalty of a Klansman re murder of black teen and advocated for Rosa Parks.
Still, let's not let facts get in the way of a good smear. PBers who claim to be keen on facts, aren't so keen on those that don't fit their prejudices.
Good grief.
You asked for facts. I gave you facts. You don't like the facts. That's your problem, not mine.
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This 'Osborne the master strategist' meme refuses to die. What he is is a good networker, which is probably how he get his position and how he ended up in the embarrassing situation of being on a millionaire's yacht with Peter Mandelson.
Osborne was a poor Chancellor (never hitting his fairly unambitious targets), an unconvincing campaigner, and his precious Northern Powerhouse is only happening now he's on the backbenches.0 -
@DuncanWeldon: OBR estimate that Brexit - as opposed to other changes & policy decisions - adds a cumulative £68bn to borrowing.0
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"Anna Lehmann
Angela Merkel’s time is up. She shouldn’t stand for a fourth term
It’s tempting to look to Germany’s chancellor as a beacon of stability in turbulent times. But it would be in Europe’s interests if she stepped aside"
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/nov/23/angela-merkel-fourth-term-germany-europe0 -
1. I know that but it's what he pledged all the same. He didn't row back on it until elected. That counts as a promise in my book. Check the quote from the debate.PlatoSaid said:
Golly, David - you're a very sophisticated chap and coming out with this?david_herdson said:
- Prosecuting HillaryPlatoSaid said:
What has he reneged on so far?david_herdson said:
Do you think he'll win in 2020, and if so, why?PlatoSaid said:
Carry on believing what suits you, Hillary lost. I could expend pixels listing her failings too.SouthamObserver said:
He's clearly smart. He is also a crook, a sexual predator, a friend to white supremacists and anti-semites, a mocker of the disabled and a liar. In your world, that is not a problem. You like him for it. But other people don't. You are just going to have to accept that and live with it. Not everyone snuggles up to race-baiters.
Personally, I expect him to lose spectacularly. I wouldn't be overly surprised if he's not even nominated if he goes on reneging on campaign promises as he has this last fortnight.
- Paris Climate deal withdrawal
- The Wall (or it not necessarily being a wall)
- Repealing Obamacare
To name a few.
1. His AG once apptd will decide on a Special Prosecutor - he can't do it as it's not been within POTUS powers since pre Watergate. You know that.
2. I haven't seen anything about Paris chatter wise - I get hundreds of US Trump tweets a day so clearly missed this somehow.
3. The Wall isn't about bricks like China or East Germany - it's what's appropriate for the terrain vs risk. So a 15ft fence or a solid barrier or drones/CCTV watching 500miles in the desert as required. No one but anti-Trump literalists thinks he's building a la Hadrian. We both know that.
4. The pre-existing conditions and kids up to 26yrs old were in the original GOP motions that never got a look in re the ACA given Obama did an Exec Order. Another none issue.
I'm genuinely surprised that you've suggested such nonsense.
2. He said he'd withdraw; now he has an 'open mind' about it.
3. Drones and CCTV are not a wall. Again, revisit what he was saying in his rallies. He promised a wall (and that Mexico would pay - and no, he can't deliver on that too but then we both knew it at the time).
4. He said he'd repeal it; he's now looking to 'amend' it.
You can argue details about all these but as Rove said, once you're arguing details, you're losing; you can argue that the current policies are more sensible than the campaign pledges - I would - but they're broken promises all the same.0 -
Just noticed the NLW rise. £7.20 to £7.50, a rise of 4.2%, very nice for low paid workers. That puts the government on track for £9/h by 2020/21.0
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Can't disagree with that!SouthamObserver said:Good to see the white supremacist assassin of Jo Cox get a life means life sentence. The bravery she showed that day was truly remarkable. I hope that at some stage knowing that she died a hero will give her family a degree of comfort.
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There should be direct services between Oxford and London Marylebone commencing next month. Chiltern Railways already reached so-called "Oxford Parkway" last November.Blue_rog said:Didn't realise that there were plans for a 'super connection' between Oxford and Cambridge
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She doesn't need to. She needs to move her personal score up which is a different matter.rcs1000 said:There are a lot of events between now and next May, but absent a big external shock, I just don't see the way she can move the FN score from 29-30% where it has been for three years up north of 40%.
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We salute your indefatigability, Sir!TheScreamingEagles said:
As the chap who edited PB on the evening of GE 2015, Brexit, and the US Presidential election 2016, you'll notice my threads I called a Tory majority, a Leave victory, and Trump as POTUS well before Betfair and the mainstream media.Scott_P said:
Indeed. As noted earlier, once PBers "knew" the market was wrong, killings were madeSouthamObserver said:I think most of us did, but collectively we probably made more on Brexit.
I still think a Tory majority at nearly 2/1 on Betfair after Nuneaton was a reflection of punters watching the likes of the BBC/ITV/Sky News and listening to the talking heads.0 -
When does that apply from? Is Minimum Wage for younger ages changing?MaxPB said:Just noticed the NLW rise. £7.20 to £7.50, a rise of 4.2%, very nice for low paid workers. That puts the government on track for £9/h by 2020/21.
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Also worth noting that since the election he has settled the Trump university case when previously he said it was groundless and that he would fight it all the way.david_herdson said:
1. I know that but it's what he pledged all the same. He didn't row back on it until elected. That counts as a promise in my book. Check the quote from the debate.PlatoSaid said:
Golly, David - you're a very sophisticated chap and coming out with this?david_herdson said:
- Prosecuting HillaryPlatoSaid said:
What has he reneged on so far?david_herdson said:
Do you think he'll win in 2020, and if so, why?PlatoSaid said:
Carry on believing what suits you, Hillary lost. I could expend pixels listing her failings too.SouthamObserver said:
He's p to race-baiters.
Personally, I expect him to lose spectacularly. I wouldn't be overly surprised if he's not even nominated if he goes on reneging on campaign promises as he has this last fortnight.
- Paris Climate deal withdrawal
- The Wall (or it not necessarily being a wall)
- Repealing Obamacare
To name a few.
1. His AG once apptd will decide on a Special Prosecutor - he can't do it as it's not been within POTUS powers since pre Watergate. You know that.
2. I haven't seen anything about Paris chatter wise - I get hundreds of US Trump tweets a day so clearly missed this somehow.
3. The Wall that.
4. The pre-existing conditions and kids up to 26yrs old were in the original GOP motions that never got a look in re the ACA given Obama did an Exec Order. Another none issue.
I'm genuinely surprised that you've suggested such nonsense.
2. He said he'd withdraw; now he has an 'open mind' about it.
3. Drones and CCTV are not a wall. Again, revisit what he was saying in his rallies. He promised a wall (and that Mexico would pay - and no, he can't deliver on that too but then we both knew it at the time).
4. He said he'd repeal it; he's now looking to 'amend' it.
You can argue details about all these but as Rove said, once you're arguing details, you're losing; you can argue that the current policies are more sensible than the campaign pledges - I would - but they're broken promises all the same.
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Time to hold your breath once again:
https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2016/11/spacex-rockets-december-return/0 -
The 900-mile barrier between East Germany and West Germany consisted of both fence and wall.PlatoSaid said:- The Wall isn't about bricks like China or East Germany - it's what's appropriate for the terrain vs risk. So a 15ft fence or a solid barrier or drones/CCTV watching 500miles in the desert as required. No one but anti-Trump literalists thinks he's building a la Hadrian.
Just a quick mention for the currently operative walls in Belfast and Palestine.
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Trump has also appointed Bannon, Sessions and Kobach.
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April, no idea yet for under 24s.Philip_Thompson said:
When does that apply from? Is Minimum Wage for younger ages changing?MaxPB said:Just noticed the NLW rise. £7.20 to £7.50, a rise of 4.2%, very nice for low paid workers. That puts the government on track for £9/h by 2020/21.
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Cambridge had better spies, unless this chap turns up something new on the Oxford spy ring.TheScreamingEagles said:
It is the only way of improving Oxford, by learning from the awesomeness of Cambridge.Blue_rog said:Didn't realise that there were plans for a 'super connection' between Oxford and Cambridge
http://www.cherwell.org/2016/09/27/oxford-spy-ring/
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Actually, weren't there 17,410,742 of us Brexiteers?Scott_P said:@BethRigby: The three #Brexiteers - Davis, Johnson, Fox - nowhere near Hammond for #PMQs & #AS. "No accident" texts one MP to me
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Another thing Re: Trump
Watch him put the final nail into the Bush coffin when he (Or the House) gets round to the "29 pages" of the 9-11 report.0 -
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A January to December year would be awful for accountants and lawyers everywhere, working through Xmas an NY. A reason to introduce it for some, I guess!matt said:
If the tax year aligned with the calendar year as a follow-on to that, I'd be interested. That would be properly useful.MaxPB said:He's moving the budget from spring to autumn. Not cool, Phillip. Not cool at all.
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Beth Rigby, Faisal Islam and many other broadcast journalists do not accept the referendum vote and their reporting doesn't even attempt to hide itSunil_Prasannan said:
Actually, weren't there 17,410,742 of us Brexiteers?Scott_P said:@BethRigby: The three #Brexiteers - Davis, Johnson, Fox - nowhere near Hammond for #PMQs & #AS. "No accident" texts one MP to me
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The US tax year is JAn-Dec and they seem to do just fine, despite almost everyone having to do a tax returnMaxPB said:
A January to December year would be awful for accountants and lawyers everywhere, working through Xmas an NY. A reason to introduce it for some, I guess!matt said:
If the tax year aligned with the calendar year as a follow-on to that, I'd be interested. That would be properly useful.MaxPB said:He's moving the budget from spring to autumn. Not cool, Phillip. Not cool at all.
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No such thing as PAYE in the US ?not_on_fire said:
The US tax year is JAn-Dec and they seem to do just fine, despite almost everyone having to do a tax returnMaxPB said:
A January to December year would be awful for accountants and lawyers everywhere, working through Xmas an NY. A reason to introduce it for some, I guess!matt said:
If the tax year aligned with the calendar year as a follow-on to that, I'd be interested. That would be properly useful.MaxPB said:He's moving the budget from spring to autumn. Not cool, Phillip. Not cool at all.
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There are NO WALLS in the UK, surely not!Dromedary said:
The 900-mile barrier between East Germany and West Germany consisted of both fence and wall.PlatoSaid said:- The Wall isn't about bricks like China or East Germany - it's what's appropriate for the terrain vs risk. So a 15ft fence or a solid barrier or drones/CCTV watching 500miles in the desert as required. No one but anti-Trump literalists thinks he's building a la Hadrian.
Just a quick mention for the currently operative walls in Belfast and Palestine.0 -
We paid the EU £8.5 billion NET in 2015.Scott_P said:0 -
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To be fair anybody fighting a court case is going to say it's groundless and they will fight all the way - right up until they settle. That's just how it's done.SouthamObserver said:
Also worth noting that since the election he has settled the Trump university case when previously he said it was groundless and that he would fight it all the way.david_herdson said:
1. I know that but it's what he pledged all the same. He didn't row back on it until elected. That counts as a promise in my book. Check the quote from the debate.PlatoSaid said:
Golly, David - you're a very sophisticated chap and coming out with this?david_herdson said:
- Prosecuting HillaryPlatoSaid said:
What has he reneged on so far?david_herdson said:
Do you think he'll win in 2020, and if so, why?PlatoSaid said:
Carry on believing what suits you, Hillary lost. I could expend pixels listing her failings too.SouthamObserver said:
He's p to race-baiters.
Personally, I expect him to lose spectacularly. I wouldn't be overly surprised if he's not even nominated if he goes on reneging on campaign promises as he has this last fortnight.
- Paris Climate deal withdrawal
- The Wall (or it not necessarily being a wall)
- Repealing Obamacare
To name a few.
1. His AG once apptd will decide on a Special Prosecutor - he can't do it as it's not been within POTUS powers since pre Watergate. You know that.
2. I haven't seen anything about Paris chatter wise - I get hundreds of US Trump tweets a day so clearly missed this somehow.
3. The Wall that.
4. The pre-existing conditions and kids up to 26yrs old were in the original GOP motions that never got a look in re the ACA given Obama did an Exec Order. Another none issue.
I'm genuinely surprised that you've suggested such nonsense.
2. He said he'd withdraw; now he has an 'open mind' about it.
3. Drones and CCTV are not a wall. Again, revisit what he was saying in his rallies. He promised a wall (and that Mexico would pay - and no, he can't deliver on that too but then we both knew it at the time).
4. He said he'd repeal it; he's now looking to 'amend' it.
You can argue details about all these but as Rove said, once you're arguing details, you're losing; you can argue that the current policies are more sensible than the campaign pledges - I would - but they're broken promises all the same.0 -
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The tax year can match the calender year without the return due date being over Christmas.not_on_fire said:
The US tax year is JAn-Dec and they seem to do just fine, despite almost everyone having to do a tax returnMaxPB said:
A January to December year would be awful for accountants and lawyers everywhere, working through Xmas an NY. A reason to introduce it for some, I guess!matt said:
If the tax year aligned with the calendar year as a follow-on to that, I'd be interested. That would be properly useful.MaxPB said:He's moving the budget from spring to autumn. Not cool, Phillip. Not cool at all.
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david_herdson said:
1. I know that but it's what he pledged all the same. He didn't row back on it until elected. That counts as a promise in my book. Check the quote from the debate.PlatoSaid said:
Golly, David - you're a very sophisticated chap and coming out with this?david_herdson said:
- Prosecuting HillaryPlatoSaid said:
What has he reneged on so far?david_herdson said:
Do you think he'll win in 2020, and if so, why?PlatoSaid said:
Carry on believing what suits you, Hillary lost. I could expend pixels listing her failings too.SouthamObserver said:
He's clearly smart. He is also a crook, a sexual predator, a friend to white supremacists and anti-semites, a mocker of the disabled and a liar. In your world, that is not a problem. You like him for it. But other people don't. You are just going to have to accept that and live with it. Not everyone snuggles up to race-baiters.
Personally, I expect him to lose spectacularly. I wouldn't be overly surprised if he's not even nominated if he goes on reneging on campaign promises as he has this last fortnight.
- Paris Climate deal withdrawal
- The Wall (or it not necessarily being a wall)
- Repealing Obamacare
To name a few.
1. His AG once apptd will decide on a Special Prosecutor - he can't do it as it's not been within POTUS powers since pre Watergate. You know that.
2. I haven't seen anything about Paris chatter wise - I get hundreds of US Trump tweets a day so clearly missed this somehow.
3. The Wall isn't about bricks like China or East Germany - it's what's appropriate for the terrain vs risk. So a 15ft fence or a solid barrier or drones/CCTV watching 500miles in the desert as required. No one but anti-Trump literalists thinks he's building a la Hadrian. We both know that.
4. The pre-existing conditions and kids up to 26yrs old were in the original GOP motions that never got a look in re the ACA given Obama did an Exec Order. Another none issue.
I'm genuinely surprised that you've suggested such nonsense.
2. He said he'd withdraw; now he has an 'open mind' about it.
3. Drones and CCTV are not a wall. Again, revisit what he was saying in his rallies. He promised a wall (and that Mexico would pay - and no, he can't deliver on that too but then we both knew it at the time).
4. He said he'd repeal it; he's now looking to 'amend' it.
You can argue details about all these but as Rove said, once you're arguing details, you're losing; you can argue that the current policies are more sensible than the campaign pledges - I would - but they're broken promises all the same.
Don't forget publically disavowing Plato's alt-Right friends as well.
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no shit Sherlock.. Pound falls heavily =increased import costs..Scott_P said:0 -
There are - and Mr WHIPPY, LYONS MAID, BEN & JERRY etc....Sunil_Prasannan said:
There are NO WALLS in the UK, surely not!Dromedary said:
The 900-mile barrier between East Germany and West Germany consisted of both fence and wall.PlatoSaid said:- The Wall isn't about bricks like China or East Germany - it's what's appropriate for the terrain vs risk. So a 15ft fence or a solid barrier or drones/CCTV watching 500miles in the desert as required. No one but anti-Trump literalists thinks he's building a la Hadrian.
Just a quick mention for the currently operative walls in Belfast and Palestine.
In the Middle East two brands have sub-offices "Walls of Jericho" and "Lyons of Judea"0 -
@SamCoatesTimes: There's quite a bit of extra tax in this budget. Additional taxes peak in 2019/20 - the run-up to the election0
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and he said he never settles...another broken promise.SouthamObserver said:
Also worth noting that since the election he has settled the Trump university case when previously he said it was groundless and that he would fight it all the way.david_herdson said:
1. I know that but it's what he pledged all the same. He didn't row back on it until elected. That counts as a promise in my book. Check the quote from the debate.PlatoSaid said:
Golly, David - you're a very sophisticated chap and coming out with this?david_herdson said:
- Prosecuting HillaryPlatoSaid said:
What has he reneged on so far?david_herdson said:
Do you think he'll win in 2020, and if so, why?PlatoSaid said:
Carry on believing what suits you, Hillary lost. I could expend pixels listing her failings too.SouthamObserver said:
He's p to race-baiters.
Personally, I expect him to lose spectacularly. I wouldn't be overly surprised if he's not even nominated if he goes on reneging on campaign promises as he has this last fortnight.
- Paris Climate deal withdrawal
- The Wall (or it not necessarily being a wall)
- Repealing Obamacare
To name a few.
1. His AG once apptd will decide on a Special Prosecutor - he can't do it as it's not been within POTUS powers since pre Watergate. You know that.
2. I haven't seen anything about Paris chatter wise - I get hundreds of US Trump tweets a day so clearly missed this somehow.
3. The Wall that.
4. The pre-existing conditions and kids up to 26yrs old were in the original GOP motions that never got a look in re the ACA given Obama did an Exec Order. Another none issue.
I'm genuinely surprised that you've suggested such nonsense.
2. He said he'd withdraw; now he has an 'open mind' about it.
3. Drones and CCTV are not a wall. Again, revisit what he was saying in his rallies. He promised a wall (and that Mexico would pay - and no, he can't deliver on that too but then we both knew it at the time).
4. He said he'd repeal it; he's now looking to 'amend' it.
You can argue details about all these but as Rove said, once you're arguing details, you're losing; you can argue that the current policies are more sensible than the campaign pledges - I would - but they're broken promises all the same.0 -
foxinsoxuk said:
The tax year can match the calender year without the return due date being over Christmas.not_on_fire said:
The US tax year is JAn-Dec and they seem to do just fine, despite almost everyone having to do a tax returnMaxPB said:
A January to December year would be awful for accountants and lawyers everywhere, working through Xmas an NY. A reason to introduce it for some, I guess!matt said:
If the tax year aligned with the calendar year as a follow-on to that, I'd be interested. That would be properly useful.MaxPB said:He's moving the budget from spring to autumn. Not cool, Phillip. Not cool at all.
Indeed, the deadline for tax returns is in April the following year so no need for anyone to work over Xmas. I doubt anyone currently rushes out their tax return on 7th April (unless HMRC owes them money!)
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Just wait until he decides:not_on_fire said:david_herdson said:
1. I know that but it's what he pledged all the same. He didn't row back on it until elected. That counts as a promise in my book. Check the quote from the debate.PlatoSaid said:
Golly, David - you're a very sophisticated chap and coming out with this?david_herdson said:
- Prosecuting HillaryPlatoSaid said:
What has he reneged on so far?david_herdson said:
Do you think he'll win in 2020, and if so, why?PlatoSaid said:
Carry on believing what suits you, Hillary lost. I could expend pixels listing her failings too.SouthamObserver said:
He's clearly smart. He is also a crook, a sexual predator, a friend to white supremacists and anti-semites, a mocker of the disabled and a liar. In your world, that is not a problem. You like him for it. But other people don't. You are just going to have to accept that and live with it. Not everyone snuggles up to race-baiters.
Personally, I expect him to lose spectacularly. I wouldn't be overly surprised if he's not even nominated if he goes on reneging on campaign promises as he has this last fortnight.
- Paris Climate deal withdrawal
- The Wall (or it not necessarily being a wall)
- Repealing Obamacare
To name a few.
1. His AG once apptd will decide on a Special Prosecutor
I'm genuinely surprised that you've suggested such nonsense.
2. He said he'd withdraw; now he has an 'open mind' about it.
3. Drones and CCTV are not a wall. Again, revisit what he was saying in his rallies. He promised a wall (and that Mexico would pay - and no, he can't deliver on that too but then we both knew it at the time).
4. He said he'd repeal it; he's now looking to 'amend' it.
You can argue details about all these but as Rove said, once you're arguing details, you're losing; you can argue that the current policies are more sensible than the campaign pledges - I would - but they're broken promises all the same.
Don't forget publically disavowing Plato's alt-Right friends as well.
1) Don't drain the swamp, hold a swamp party.
and
2) changes the slogan to Make America Grotty Again.
Though to be fair, Trump reneging on promises quickly and shamelessly is probably the smart thing to do. He has closed the deal already.0 -
Ouch. Nice put down to Flip Flop Burnham about cap ex vs day to day spending.0
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he's stopping doggy exports.MarqueeMark said:
Wow - what in Hammond's statement pissed him off that much?timmo said:President of South Korea has just resigned.
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