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Sorry, Sandy, but who or what is this "Nick Griffin"?SandyRentool said:Hollande v Le Pen = Corbyn v Nick Griffin
I would like to think under those circumstances British voters would opt for Jezza.
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Trading block? I thought your side wanted to recreate the Raj, in which case it's probably a positive development.rcs1000 said:
Does this affect the plans to recreate the former British Empire as a trading bloc?nunu said:You guys know this is all a side show right? India and Pakistan are on the verge of another war.......
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Dr. Prasannan, it's a mythical crime, megafauna theft of a half-eagle, half-lion.0
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Decent turnout, maybe not as much as the polls were predicting but still relatively good. In theory that is good for Juppe, though does depend where exactly is turning out.Mortimer said:Very shallow market, but Juppe appears to be tightening again on BF?
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What's the record for winning the league and then getting relegated? Blackburn did it in 4 years.foxinsoxuk said:
Could be worse. I have backed Leicester for relegation. We are looking woeful. Zieler is hopeless in goal and our only decent midfielder is knackered. We are not going to be attractive to signings in Jan, and Mahrez and Slimani are off to the AFCON.Sunil_Prasannan said:
I'm officially fearful for West Ham's chances this seasonScrapheap_as_was said:Can a boro player please wind up Costa asap... he is on 4 yellows
The highs and lows of following Citeh!0 -
Following Leicester is certainly that. I expected to see us relegated again at some point, just not so soon!Morris_Dancer said:Dr. Foxinsox, better a rollercoaster heartbeat than a plateau.
The odds on a loss to Brugge and Boro are quite good, though as an optomist I have gone draw no bet on them.
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Without checking, the Marseille must be close to holding that title. One year from winning the title to relegation.Philip_Thompson said:
What's the record for winning the league and then getting relegated? Blackburn did it in 4 years.foxinsoxuk said:
Could be worse. I have backed Leicester for relegation. We are looking woeful. Zieler is hopeless in goal and our only decent midfielder is knackered. We are not going to be attractive to signings in Jan, and Mahrez and Slimani are off to the AFCON.Sunil_Prasannan said:
I'm officially fearful for West Ham's chances this seasonScrapheap_as_was said:Can a boro player please wind up Costa asap... he is on 4 yellows
The highs and lows of following Citeh!
Though that was due to a bribery scandal.0 -
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I think France is ripe for a revolt against the establishment. However, that revolt will not be Le Pen. Apart from the Far-Right stuff, she and her party are just another part of the establishment. Though the establishment tries to to pretend (as does she) that this is not so.
She cannot win unless an utter, utter hopeless fool makes it to the last round with her.
A genuine surprise candidate could easily pop up, though.
Interesting thought : Obama was the rebellion candidate once - stormed the heights of the Democratic party to take the crown from Hillary.... As was Bill Clinton, back in his day (to a certain extent). Note that both candidates got there by *talking* about those left behind...0 -
Can I just say The Grand Tour is the dog's dangly bits
In Ultra-HD, it is just wow.
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Nick Griffin is a virulent racist, and coincidentally a strong supporter of LeaveSunil_Prasannan said:
Sorry, Sandy, but who or what is this "Nick Griffin"?SandyRentool said:Hollande v Le Pen = Corbyn v Nick Griffin
I would like to think under those circumstances British voters would opt for Jezza.0 -
It is very good indeed. Top Gear was overdue a revamp.TheScreamingEagles said:Can I just say The Grand Tour is the dog's dangly bits
In Ultra-HD, it is just wow.
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Anyone who wants to buy me one of those 4K Amazon sticks for Christmas is more than welcome, and a year of fibre of courseTheScreamingEagles said:Can I just say The Grand Tour is the dog's dangly bits
In Ultra-HD, it is just wow.
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Never heard of him!TheScreamingEagles said:
Nick Griffin is a virulent racist, and coincidentally a strong supporter of LeaveSunil_Prasannan said:
Sorry, Sandy, but who or what is this "Nick Griffin"?SandyRentool said:Hollande v Le Pen = Corbyn v Nick Griffin
I would like to think under those circumstances British voters would opt for Jezza.0 -
Man City achieved this by being relegated after winning the top flight in the 1930's I believeTheScreamingEagles said:
Without checking, the Marseille must be close to holding that title. One year from winning the title to relegation.Philip_Thompson said:
What's the record for winning the league and then getting relegated? Blackburn did it in 4 years.foxinsoxuk said:
Could be worse. I have backed Leicester for relegation. We are looking woeful. Zieler is hopeless in goal and our only decent midfielder is knackered. We are not going to be attractive to signings in Jan, and Mahrez and Slimani are off to the AFCON.Sunil_Prasannan said:
I'm officially fearful for West Ham's chances this seasonScrapheap_as_was said:Can a boro player please wind up Costa asap... he is on 4 yellows
The highs and lows of following Citeh!
Though that was due to a bribery scandal.
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O/T - It must be that time of year again!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/11/20/winter-wonderland-attraction-branded-a-rip-off-and-shambles-afte/0 -
fIbre?? i'll be dead before it gets to my laneFreggles said:
Anyone who wants to buy me one of those 4K Amazon sticks for Christmas is more than welcome, and a year of fibre of courseTheScreamingEagles said:Can I just say The Grand Tour is the dog's dangly bits
In Ultra-HD, it is just wow.
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You mean you don't like self-righteous lefties?rcs1000 said:
Hollande is currently polling behind (1) Le Pen, (2) the Les Republicains candidate, (3) Macron, (4) Melenchon, and (5) Bayrou.MaxPB said:
Hollande vs Le Pen would be the same as Hillary vs Donald. Shit vs shit.SandyRentool said:
....and would prefer a Fascist to Hollande.rcs1000 said:
I don't think that's true at all. Les Republicans supporters just hate Hollande.SandyRentool said:So in France, Socialists would prefer a Republican to Le Pen, but Republicans would prefer Le Pen to a Socialist. Says it all.
He's sixth. He has about as much chance in facing Le Pen in the second round as I have of dating Emma Watson*.
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Is Emma Watson left-wing? I've not paid much attention but a quick check of Twitter finds a lot of stuff on feminism, but the Prime Minister might agree with most of that.Charles said:
You mean you don't like self-righteous lefties?rcs1000 said:
Hollande is currently polling behind (1) Le Pen, (2) the Les Republicains candidate, (3) Macron, (4) Melenchon, and (5) Bayrou.MaxPB said:
Hollande vs Le Pen would be the same as Hillary vs Donald. Shit vs shit.SandyRentool said:
....and would prefer a Fascist to Hollande.rcs1000 said:
I don't think that's true at all. Les Republicans supporters just hate Hollande.SandyRentool said:So in France, Socialists would prefer a Republican to Le Pen, but Republicans would prefer Le Pen to a Socialist. Says it all.
He's sixth. He has about as much chance in facing Le Pen in the second round as I have of dating Emma Watson*.
* She's not my type.0 -
Fibre? Roughage is more up my streetSquareRoot said:
fIbre?? i'll be dead before it gets to my laneFreggles said:
Anyone who wants to buy me one of those 4K Amazon sticks for Christmas is more than welcome, and a year of fibre of courseTheScreamingEagles said:Can I just say The Grand Tour is the dog's dangly bits
In Ultra-HD, it is just wow.
I want a drive around the Ebola-dome
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Standard sleb stuff. Not particularly deep, but even more irritating for that. I don't really care what position people adopt so long as it is internally consistent and derived from first principles.DecrepitJohnL said:
Is Emma Watson left-wing? I've not paid much attention but a quick check of Twitter finds a lot of stuff on feminism, but the Prime Minister might agree with most of that.Charles said:
You mean you don't like self-righteous lefties?rcs1000 said:
Hollande is currently polling behind (1) Le Pen, (2) the Les Republicains candidate, (3) Macron, (4) Melenchon, and (5) Bayrou.MaxPB said:
Hollande vs Le Pen would be the same as Hillary vs Donald. Shit vs shit.SandyRentool said:
....and would prefer a Fascist to Hollande.rcs1000 said:
I don't think that's true at all. Les Republicans supporters just hate Hollande.SandyRentool said:So in France, Socialists would prefer a Republican to Le Pen, but Republicans would prefer Le Pen to a Socialist. Says it all.
He's sixth. He has about as much chance in facing Le Pen in the second round as I have of dating Emma Watson*.
* She's not my type.0 -
This ATP final certainly living up to its billing so far.
And win or lose, how nice to see Djokovic hold his hand up for that fluke on the net. What a gentleman.0 -
https://twitter.com/BFMTV/status/800411699832619009
Good for Juppé or Fillon, bad for the dwarf.0 -
Timescales for the counting, anyone?0
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I'm not sure we can draw too many conclusions just yet...brokenwheel said:https://twitter.com/BFMTV/status/800411699832619009
Good for Juppé or Fillon, bad for the dwarf.0 -
British Tennis superhero Andy Murray wins first set against Djokovic 6-3!-1
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But the Scottish alter ego has just missed three break pointsSunil_Prasannan said:British Tennis superhero Andy Murray wins first set against Djokovic 6-3!
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I love the way that right wingers attack well-off lefty actors for their incoherently expressed beliefs, but stay silent about the views espoused by privileged white supremacists appointed to senior positions by Donald Trump.0
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First numbers are beginning to filter through from individual French provinces, confirm Juppe and Fillon on c. 30% apiece, and Sarkozy in the low to mid 20s.0
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Perhaps and judging by another tweet it looks like a small sample; but if it's true then it's a significantly higher Left vote and lower Centre-Right than polling was showing.0
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But the Briton surges back to break through!
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as far as I can tell, the 'ebola drome' is on the Science Museum site at Wroughton.TheScreamingEagles said:Can I just say The Grand Tour is the dog's dangly bits
In Ultra-HD, it is just wow.
I want a drive around the Ebola-dome
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a) "The American"
b) some of the US vs UK comedic lines seeming a bit labored, mainly the 'stick', bonnet and RAF0 -
And? Plenty of nasties have allied themselves with both sides. I see Blair is aligning himself as the de facto leader of Team Remain. How unpalatable is that.TheScreamingEagles said:
Nick Griffin is a virulent racist, and coincidentally a strong supporter of LeaveSunil_Prasannan said:
Sorry, Sandy, but who or what is this "Nick Griffin"?SandyRentool said:Hollande v Le Pen = Corbyn v Nick Griffin
I would like to think under those circumstances British voters would opt for Jezza.0 -
If the Odexa numbers are true, and it's a respected polling company, then it's Fillon vs Juppe next week. You have to reckon Fillon is the favourite here.brokenwheel said:Perhaps, and juging by another tweet it looks like a small sample; if it's true then it's a significantly higher Left vote and lower Centre-Right than polling was showing.
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I think that part of the problem is that a lot of the time with 'lefty' celebrities they're not saying what they think, but what they think will sound good to their chosen demographic at the next party. Therefore, they sometimes give the impression of being incoherent.SouthamObserver said:I love the way that right wingers attack well-off lefty actors for their incoherently expressed beliefs, but stay silent about the views espoused by privileged white supremacists appointed to senior positions by Donald Trump.
Meanwhile, Pence's views (for example) may be repellent but are hardly incoherent. They clearly are his views, and he doesn't care what anyone thinks of him apart apparently from the cast of Hamilton.0 -
So IF the polls are correct Fillon will be the next French President.0
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He gets more Sarko switchers, presumably?rcs1000 said:
If the Odexa numbers are true, and it's a respected polling company, then it's Fillon vs Juppe next week. You have to reckon Fillon is the favourite here.brokenwheel said:Perhaps, and juging by another tweet it looks like a small sample; if it's true then it's a significantly higher Left vote and lower Centre-Right than polling was showing.
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Oh, I think several them are happy to (pishpoorly) defend those views.SouthamObserver said:I love the way that right wingers attack well-off lefty actors for their incoherently expressed beliefs, but stay silent about the views espoused by privileged white supremacists appointed to senior positions by Donald Trump.
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Because he thinks he can win without benefit of luck? Or wants to, at least? Or perhaps because he and the man leading 1-0 and 2-0 is an old friend and he genuinely felt a bit guilty about it?Nigelb said:
I'm with Fighting Talk's Greg Brady; why would you apologise for net cords ?ydoethur said:This ATP final certainly living up to its billing so far.
And win or lose, how nice to see Djokovic hold his hand up for that fluke on the net. What a gentleman.
"You're not sorry ! "0 -
I did not realise M. Fillon's wife is Welsh. I wonder if her family voted Leave.0
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I was reminded today that less than 50 years ago inter-racial marriage illegal in a third of the US states. What is gobsmacking though is that support for interracial marriage only became a majority position in the mid 1990s!SouthamObserver said:I love the way that right wingers attack well-off lefty actors for their incoherently expressed beliefs, but stay silent about the views espoused by privileged white supremacists appointed to senior positions by Donald Trump.
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Just imagine how the avalanche of posts on PB if Jeremy Corbyn had appointed someone with the history of Steve Bannon.Theuniondivvie said:
Oh, I think several them are happy to (pishpoorly) defend those views.SouthamObserver said:I love the way that right wingers attack well-off lefty actors for their incoherently expressed beliefs, but stay silent about the views espoused by privileged white supremacists appointed to senior positions by Donald Trump.
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Balance of probabilities is in favour, given where she's from.SouthamObserver said:I did not realise M. Fillon's wife is Welsh. I wonder if her family voted Leave.
I did my teaching training round there and there was lots of unhappiness at the closure of a local steelworks. People (wrongly, as it happens) blamed Europe and Westminster for it.0 -
Yes, albeit the gap is relatively small. Thursday's poll, which had 31% Juppe, 30% Fillon, 28% Sarkozy for the first round, had 50/50 for the second. Fillon is outperforming, so I'd expect him to win 53-47 or so. Still, while he's definitely favourite, it's by no means a cert.Mortimer said:
He gets more Sarko switchers, presumably?rcs1000 said:
If the Odexa numbers are true, and it's a respected polling company, then it's Fillon vs Juppe next week. You have to reckon Fillon is the favourite here.brokenwheel said:Perhaps, and juging by another tweet it looks like a small sample; if it's true then it's a significantly higher Left vote and lower Centre-Right than polling was showing.
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I've been winding up lefties I know by saying that the worst thing about Trump is that he wants to cut taxes and increase public spending. For some reason, my friends don't agree.SouthamObserver said:I love the way that right wingers attack well-off lefty actors for their incoherently expressed beliefs, but stay silent about the views espoused by privileged white supremacists appointed to senior positions by Donald Trump.
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Not sure about that. Plenty of tight wingers on here, on Guido and elsewhere have - quite rightly - called out Corbyn over anti-semitism. But on the white supremacists who surround Trump there has been silence.ydoethur said:
I think that part of the problem is that a lot of the time with 'lefty' celebrities they're not saying what they think, but what they think will sound good to their chosen demographic at the next party. Therefore, they sometimes give the impression of being incoherent.SouthamObserver said:I love the way that right wingers attack well-off lefty actors for their incoherently expressed beliefs, but stay silent about the views espoused by privileged white supremacists appointed to senior positions by Donald Trump.
Meanwhile, Pence's views (for example) may be repellent but are hardly incoherent. They clearly are his views, and he doesn't care what anyone thinks of him apart apparently from the cast of Hamilton.
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We're no better in some respects.Alistair said:
I was reminded today that less than 50 years ago inter-racial marriage illegal in a third of the US states. What is gobsmacking though is that support for interracial marriage only became a majority position in the mid 1990s!SouthamObserver said:I love the way that right wingers attack well-off lefty actors for their incoherently expressed beliefs, but stay silent about the views espoused by privileged white supremacists appointed to senior positions by Donald Trump.
Just to think in parts of the UK homosexuality was illegal a little over thirty years ago.0 -
yeah don't go to bed yet....rcs1000 said:
I'm not sure we can draw too many conclusions just yet...brokenwheel said:https://twitter.com/BFMTV/status/800411699832619009
Good for Juppé or Fillon, bad for the dwarf.0 -
Don't throw away those Sarkozy betslips yet...
https://twitter.com/epiciermilitant/status/8004121085087907840 -
De jure, but not de facto perhaps?TheScreamingEagles said:
We're no better in some respects.Alistair said:
I was reminded today that less than 50 years ago inter-racial marriage illegal in a third of the US states. What is gobsmacking though is that support for interracial marriage only became a majority position in the mid 1990s!SouthamObserver said:I love the way that right wingers attack well-off lefty actors for their incoherently expressed beliefs, but stay silent about the views espoused by privileged white supremacists appointed to senior positions by Donald Trump.
Just to think in parts of the UK homosexuality was illegal a little over thirty years ago.0 -
Maybe they won't need a second round.rcs1000 said:0 -
She's from Abergavenny. Monmouthshire voted v v narrowly Remain.ydoethur said:
Balance of probabilities is in favour, given where she's from.SouthamObserver said:I did not realise M. Fillon's wife is Welsh. I wonder if her family voted Leave.
I did my teaching training round there and there was lots of unhappiness at the closure of a local steelworks. People (wrongly, as it happens) blamed Europe and Westminster for it.0 -
I'm more impressed that the US appears to have elected a giant orange snowflake, calling for 'safe spaces' for right wing politicians in the theatre...SouthamObserver said:I love the way that right wingers attack well-off lefty actors for their incoherently expressed beliefs, but stay silent about the views espoused by privileged white supremacists appointed to senior positions by Donald Trump.
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Someone just sent me this:SouthamObserver said:I love the way that right wingers attack well-off lefty actors for their incoherently expressed beliefs, but stay silent about the views espoused by privileged white supremacists appointed to senior positions by Donald Trump.
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Clearly there are some posters on here who positively enjoy and sympathise with the white supremacist racebaiters, but I don't think most do. Yet as far as I can tell only MaxPB has unequivocally condemned Trump's embrace of racism (apologies to others who have). The silence of others is baffling and, quite frankly, rather shameful.Theuniondivvie said:
Oh, I think several them are happy to (pishpoorly) defend those views.SouthamObserver said:I love the way that right wingers attack well-off lefty actors for their incoherently expressed beliefs, but stay silent about the views espoused by privileged white supremacists appointed to senior positions by Donald Trump.
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Ironically it was down to that well known gay icon, Margaret Thatcher, who decriminalised homosexuality in Scotland and Northern Ireland.RobD said:
De jure, but not de facto perhaps?TheScreamingEagles said:
We're no better in some respects.Alistair said:
I was reminded today that less than 50 years ago inter-racial marriage illegal in a third of the US states. What is gobsmacking though is that support for interracial marriage only became a majority position in the mid 1990s!SouthamObserver said:I love the way that right wingers attack well-off lefty actors for their incoherently expressed beliefs, but stay silent about the views espoused by privileged white supremacists appointed to senior positions by Donald Trump.
Just to think in parts of the UK homosexuality was illegal a little over thirty years ago.
Those backward Celts needed civilising by us Tories.0 -
Thanks. My French political knowledge is pretty much confined to the odd discussion on hols. Everyone laughed at the idea of Sarko or Hollande getting anywhere near the presidency.... Which is little help for the betting.rcs1000 said:
Yes, albeit the gap is relatively small. Thursday's poll, which had 31% Juppe, 30% Fillon, 28% Sarkozy for the first round, had 50/50 for the second. Fillon is outperforming, so I'd expect him to win 53-47 or so. Still, while he's definitely favourite, it's by no means a cert.Mortimer said:
He gets more Sarko switchers, presumably?rcs1000 said:
If the Odexa numbers are true, and it's a respected polling company, then it's Fillon vs Juppe next week. You have to reckon Fillon is the favourite here.brokenwheel said:Perhaps, and juging by another tweet it looks like a small sample; if it's true then it's a significantly higher Left vote and lower Centre-Right than polling was showing.
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Yes. It is often... interesting... where celebritie.... er.... start thinking (if you can call it that) ... about such things and fall off the map. Glen Hoddle comes to mind. Essentially I have very little trust in the liberalism of the rote learning form.ydoethur said:
I think that part of the problem is that a lot of the time with 'lefty' celebrities they're not saying what they think, but what they think will sound good to their chosen demographic at the next party. Therefore, they sometimes give the impression of being incoherent.SouthamObserver said:I love the way that right wingers attack well-off lefty actors for their incoherently expressed beliefs, but stay silent about the views espoused by privileged white supremacists appointed to senior positions by Donald Trump.
Meanwhile, Pence's views (for example) may be repellent but are hardly incoherent. They clearly are his views, and he doesn't care what anyone thinks of him apart apparently from the cast of Hamilton.
Pence doesn't seem to care about what the cast of Hamilton thinks of him, incidentally. That was Trump. The people whose opinion he cares about are on the (very) right wing of the Republican party.0 -
That wasn't my point. But in view of that quite brilliant typo (at least, I presume it was, and not a comment on SeanT!) I'll just savour the moment and let it go!SouthamObserver said:
Not sure about that. Plenty of tight wingers on here, on Guido and elsewhere have - quite rightly - called out Corbyn over anti-semitism. But on the white supremacists who surround Trump there has been silence.ydoethur said:
I think that part of the problem is that a lot of the time with 'lefty' celebrities they're not saying what they think, but what they think will sound good to their chosen demographic at the next party. Therefore, they sometimes give the impression of being incoherent.SouthamObserver said:I love the way that right wingers attack well-off lefty actors for their incoherently expressed beliefs, but stay silent about the views espoused by privileged white supremacists appointed to senior positions by Donald Trump.
Meanwhile, Pence's views (for example) may be repellent but are hardly incoherent. They clearly are his views, and he doesn't care what anyone thinks of him apart apparently from the cast of Hamilton.
Another fantastic game from Murray. On the brink of No.1 status, and what a way to do it if he manages it.0 -
That's a wrongfact.TheScreamingEagles said:
Ironically it was down to that well known gay icon, Margaret Thatcher, who decriminalised homosexuality in Scotland and Northern Ireland.RobD said:
De jure, but not de facto perhaps?TheScreamingEagles said:
We're no better in some respects.Alistair said:
I was reminded today that less than 50 years ago inter-racial marriage illegal in a third of the US states. What is gobsmacking though is that support for interracial marriage only became a majority position in the mid 1990s!SouthamObserver said:I love the way that right wingers attack well-off lefty actors for their incoherently expressed beliefs, but stay silent about the views espoused by privileged white supremacists appointed to senior positions by Donald Trump.
Just to think in parts of the UK homosexuality was illegal a little over thirty years ago.
Those backward Celts needed civilising by us Tories.0 -
Which bit is wrong?Malmesbury said:
That's a wrongfact.TheScreamingEagles said:
Ironically it was down to that well known gay icon, Margaret Thatcher, who decriminalised homosexuality in Scotland and Northern Ireland.RobD said:
De jure, but not de facto perhaps?TheScreamingEagles said:
We're no better in some respects.Alistair said:
I was reminded today that less than 50 years ago inter-racial marriage illegal in a third of the US states. What is gobsmacking though is that support for interracial marriage only became a majority position in the mid 1990s!SouthamObserver said:I love the way that right wingers attack well-off lefty actors for their incoherently expressed beliefs, but stay silent about the views espoused by privileged white supremacists appointed to senior positions by Donald Trump.
Just to think in parts of the UK homosexuality was illegal a little over thirty years ago.
Those backward Celts needed civilising by us Tories.0 -
Oh for pete's sake, you're still on this?SouthamObserver said:
Clearly there are some posters on here who positively enjoy and sympathise with the white supremacist racebaiters, but I don't think most do. Yet as far as I can tell only MaxPB has unequivocally condemned Trump's embrace of racism (apologies to others who have). The silence of others is baffling and, quite frankly, rather shameful.Theuniondivvie said:
Oh, I think several them are happy to (pishpoorly) defend those views.SouthamObserver said:I love the way that right wingers attack well-off lefty actors for their incoherently expressed beliefs, but stay silent about the views espoused by privileged white supremacists appointed to senior positions by Donald Trump.
We're on a betting forum. The need to signal anything here is zero.0 -
Favourite anecdote on the subject;Malmesbury said:
Yes. It is often... interesting... where celebritie.... er.... start thinking (if you can call it that) ... about such things and fall off the map. Glen Hoddle comes to mind. Essentially I have very little trust in the liberalism of the rote learning form.ydoethur said:
I think that part of the problem is that a lot of the time with 'lefty' celebrities they're not saying what they think, but what they think will sound good to their chosen demographic at the next party. Therefore, they sometimes give the impression of being incoherent.SouthamObserver said:I love the way that right wingers attack well-off lefty actors for their incoherently expressed beliefs, but stay silent about the views espoused by privileged white supremacists appointed to senior positions by Donald Trump.
Meanwhile, Pence's views (for example) may be repellent but are hardly incoherent. They clearly are his views, and he doesn't care what anyone thinks of him apart apparently from the cast of Hamilton.
Pence doesn't seem to care about what the cast of Hamilton thinks of him, incidentally. That was Trump. The people whose opinion he cares about are on the (very) right wing of the Republican party.
Bono is giving a concert. He pauses, goes to the front and starts clapping his hands.
'Every time I clap my hands,' he intones, 'a child in Africa dies.'
And a member of the audience shouts immediately;
'Well stop fooking clapping then!'0 -
Murray really doing well here. Two holds away from surely the second biggest win of his career.
Edit - and barely have I typed that before he is break point down and puts a volley long. Oops.0 -
O/T - Paging any Spanish speakers on PB
I've just found out there's a Spanish football player who plays for Malaga called Juankar.
So how the hell do I pronounce Juankar?0 -
It's pronounced exactly how you'd like it to be!TheScreamingEagles said:O/T - Paging any Spanish speakers on PB
I've just found out there's a Spanish football player who plays for Malaga called Juankar.
So how the hell do I pronounce Juankar?0 -
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@TSE - Is this where you were last night?
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More to the point, can we use his name as the new nickname for another Juncker?TheScreamingEagles said:O/T - Paging any Spanish speakers on PB
I've just found out there's a Spanish football player who plays for Malaga called Juankar.
So how the hell do I pronounce Juankar?0 -
Exactly how you think. What's his first name?TheScreamingEagles said:O/T - Paging any Spanish speakers on PB
I've just found out there's a Spanish football player who plays for Malaga called Juankar.
So how the hell do I pronounce Juankar?
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Nope, there were few muppets out there climaxing whenever their favourite was on.Sandpit said:@TSE - Is this where you were last night?
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ydoethur said:
Favourite anecdote on the subject;Malmesbury said:
Yes. It is often... interesting... where celebritie.... er.... start thinking (if you can call it that) ... about such things and fall off the map. Glen Hoddle comes to mind. Essentially I have very little trust in the liberalism of the rote learning form.ydoethur said:
:SouthamObserver said:
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Pence doesn't seem to care about what the cast of Hamilton thinks of him, incidentally. That was Trump. The people whose opinion he cares about are on the (very) right wing of the Republican party.
Bono is giving a concert. He pauses, goes to the front and starts clapping his hands.
'Every time I clap my hands,' he intones, 'a child in Africa dies.'
And a member of the audience shouts immediately;
'Well stop fooking clapping then!'
No, the fact that Margaret Thatcher actually decriminalised homosexuality in Scotland and Northern Ireland is true (I seem to recall).TheScreamingEagles said:
Which bit is wrong?Malmesbury said:
That's a wrongfact.TheScreamingEagles said:
Ironically it was down to that well known gay icon, Margaret Thatcher, who decriminalised homosexuality in Scotland and Northern Ireland.RobD said:
De jure, but not de facto perhaps?TheScreamingEagles said:
We're no better in some respects.Alistair said:
I was reminded today that less than 50 years ago inter-racial marriage illegal in a third of the US states. What is gobsmacking though is that support for interracial marriage only became a majority position in the mid 1990s!SouthamObserver said:I love the way that right wingers attack well-off lefty actors for their incoherently expressed beliefs, but stay silent about the views espoused by privileged white supremacists appointed to senior positions by Donald Trump.
Just to think in parts of the UK homosexuality was illegal a little over thirty years ago.
Those backward Celts needed civilising by us Tories.
However, saying it is a wrongfact - a fact that insults or upsets a minority. I was actually told that at a sensitivity seminar thing via work a long while back - with reference to this issue. The word "wrongfact" was actually used...
6 hours of my life that was filled with a carnival of comedy of the richest kind. If I had 0.01% of the talent of Monty Python.. what I could have done with that....0 -
ED BALLS THROUGH0
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Ah yes.Malmesbury said:ydoethur said:
Favourite anecdote on the subject;Malmesbury said:
Yes. It is often... interesting... where celebritie.... er.... start thinking (if you can call it that) ... about such things and fall off the map. Glen Hoddle comes to mind. Essentially I have very little trust in the liberalism of the rote learning form.ydoethur said:
:SouthamObserver said:
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Pence doesn't seem to care about what the cast of Hamilton thinks of him, incidentally. That was Trump. The people whose opinion he cares about are on the (very) right wing of the Republican party.
Bono is giving a concert. He pauses, goes to the front and starts clapping his hands.
'Every time I clap my hands,' he intones, 'a child in Africa dies.'
And a member of the audience shouts immediately;
'Well stop fooking clapping then!'
No, the fact that Margaret Thatcher actually decriminalised homosexuality in Scotland and Northern Ireland is true (I seem to recall).TheScreamingEagles said:
Which bit is wrong?Malmesbury said:
That's a wrongfact.TheScreamingEagles said:
Ironically it was down to that well known gay icon, Margaret Thatcher, who decriminalised homosexuality in Scotland and Northern Ireland.RobD said:
De jure, but not de facto perhaps?TheScreamingEagles said:
We're no better in some respects.Alistair said:
I was reminded today that less than 50 years ago inter-racial marriage illegal in a third of the US states. What is gobsmacking though is that support for interracial marriage only became a majority position in the mid 1990s!SouthamObserver said:I love the way that right wingers attack well-off lefty actors for their incoherently expressed beliefs, but stay silent about the views espoused by privileged white supremacists appointed to senior positions by Donald Trump.
Just to think in parts of the UK homosexuality was illegal a little over thirty years ago.
Those backward Celts needed civilising by us Tories.
However, saying it is a wrongfact - a fact that insults or upsets a minority. I was actually told that at a sensitivity seminar thing via work a long while back - with reference to this issue. The word "wrongfact" was actually used...
6 hours of my life that was filled with a carnival of comedy of the richest kind. If I had 0.01% of the talent of Monty Python.. what I could have done with that....0 -
Are you saying Balls has penetrated, TSE?TheScreamingEagles said:ED BALLS THROUGH
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an underpants failure?TheScreamingEagles said:ED BALLS THROUGH
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Hwan-car - close but no cigar.TheScreamingEagles said:O/T - Paging any Spanish speakers on PB
I've just found out there's a Spanish football player who plays for Malaga called Juankar.
So how the hell do I pronounce Juankar?
I did meet a bloke called Hank Wank at a conference in the US once. Like Trump he was oblivious to his surname's real meaning.
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It is terrific.TheScreamingEagles said:Can I just say The Grand Tour is the dog's dangly bits
In Ultra-HD, it is just wow.
I want a drive around the Ebola-dome0 -
Juppe now approaching crossover with Le Pen.
I was about to say he might be value, and then I caught up with Robert's tweet of the poll count.0 -
First glitter balls, now flaming balls? 0
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A few years ago in America, I met an American family with the surname Wanker.SouthamObserver said:
Hwan-car - close but no cigar.TheScreamingEagles said:O/T - Paging any Spanish speakers on PB
I've just found out there's a Spanish football player who plays for Malaga called Juankar.
So how the hell do I pronounce Juankar?
I did meet a bloke called Hank Wank at a conference in the US once. Like Trump he was oblivious to his surname's real meaning.
They had no idea, I told them to come to the UK....0 -
I know a chap called Dick Koch (rhymes with sock).SouthamObserver said:
Hwan-car - close but no cigar.TheScreamingEagles said:O/T - Paging any Spanish speakers on PB
I've just found out there's a Spanish football player who plays for Malaga called Juankar.
So how the hell do I pronounce Juankar?
I did meet a bloke called Hank Wank at a conference in the US once. Like Trump he was oblivious to his surname's real meaning.0 -
If you want a really unfortunate name:SouthamObserver said:
Hwan-car - close but no cigar.TheScreamingEagles said:O/T - Paging any Spanish speakers on PB
I've just found out there's a Spanish football player who plays for Malaga called Juankar.
So how the hell do I pronounce Juankar?
I did meet a bloke called Hank Wank at a conference in the US once. Like Trump he was oblivious to his surname's real meaning.
http://www.lettersofnote.com/2009/10/we-all-feel-like-that-now-and-then.html0 -
In Tim Shipman's excellent definitive new book on Brexit, he argues that Tony Blair is the Godfather of Brexit.perdix said:FPT - Tony Blair and his ilk are responsible for the UK voting to leave the EU.
Letting rip on immigration in 2004 was one factor, but, if he'd allowed a vote on the Lisbon Treaty, we'd have likely voted "no", and the EU and our relationship with it would have taken a different direction.
And we'd never be where we are now.0 -
Verdict here was not as good as Top Gear in its prime, but better than the Evans effort.Casino_Royale said:
It is terrific.TheScreamingEagles said:Can I just say The Grand Tour is the dog's dangly bits
In Ultra-HD, it is just wow.
I want a drive around the Ebola-dome0 -
The Scottish attitude to homosexuality went through a spectacularly rapid change. When the age of consent was lowered to 18 across mainland UK in 1994 the Scottish police forces said they were going to treat it as 16.TheScreamingEagles said:
We're no better in some respects.Alistair said:
I was reminded today that less than 50 years ago inter-racial marriage illegal in a third of the US states. What is gobsmacking though is that support for interracial marriage only became a majority position in the mid 1990s!SouthamObserver said:I love the way that right wingers attack well-off lefty actors for their incoherently expressed beliefs, but stay silent about the views espoused by privileged white supremacists appointed to senior positions by Donald Trump.
Just to think in parts of the UK homosexuality was illegal a little over thirty years ago.0 -
Zut alors!TheScreamingEagles said:ED BALLS THROUGH
and who came second Fillon?0 -
Wankers are hardly new, so let's give them a big hand (sorry).....TheScreamingEagles said:
A few years ago in America, I met an American family with the surname Wanker.SouthamObserver said:
Hwan-car - close but no cigar.TheScreamingEagles said:O/T - Paging any Spanish speakers on PB
I've just found out there's a Spanish football player who plays for Malaga called Juankar.
So how the hell do I pronounce Juankar?
I did meet a bloke called Hank Wank at a conference in the US once. Like Trump he was oblivious to his surname's real meaning.
They had no idea, I told them to come to the UK....
https://www.houseofnames.com/wanker-family-crest0 -
Hoo-ankar.TheScreamingEagles said:O/T - Paging any Spanish speakers on PB
I've just found out there's a Spanish football player who plays for Malaga called Juankar.
So how the hell do I pronounce Juankar?0 -
I do wonder who'd win in a George Osborne/Francois Hollande run-off.MaxPB said:
Hollande vs Le Pen would be the same as Hillary vs Donald. Shit vs shit.SandyRentool said:
....and would prefer a Fascist to Hollande.rcs1000 said:
I don't think that's true at all. Les Republicans supporters just hate Hollande.SandyRentool said:So in France, Socialists would prefer a Republican to Le Pen, but Republicans would prefer Le Pen to a Socialist. Says it all.
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Saving it for my new 4K TV. Delivery in 5 weeks!Casino_Royale said:
It is terrific.TheScreamingEagles said:Can I just say The Grand Tour is the dog's dangly bits
In Ultra-HD, it is just wow.
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It is good enough to give the show staying power, certainly.Jonathan said:
Verdict here was not as good as Top Gear in its prime, but better than the Evans effort.Casino_Royale said:
It is terrific.TheScreamingEagles said:Can I just say The Grand Tour is the dog's dangly bits
In Ultra-HD, it is just wow.
I want a drive around the Ebola-dome0 -
Have you got decent broadband coverage?MaxPB said:
Saving it for my new 4K TV. Delivery in 5 weeks!Casino_Royale said:
It is terrific.TheScreamingEagles said:Can I just say The Grand Tour is the dog's dangly bits
In Ultra-HD, it is just wow.
I want a drive around the Ebola-dome
The minimum speed to stream 4k is 25 Mbps.
Thank god for Infinity 2.0 -
That's very good.ydoethur said:
If you want a really unfortunate name:SouthamObserver said:
Hwan-car - close but no cigar.TheScreamingEagles said:O/T - Paging any Spanish speakers on PB
I've just found out there's a Spanish football player who plays for Malaga called Juankar.
So how the hell do I pronounce Juankar?
I did meet a bloke called Hank Wank at a conference in the US once. Like Trump he was oblivious to his surname's real meaning.
http://www.lettersofnote.com/2009/10/we-all-feel-like-that-now-and-then.html
In 1998 the England football team World Cup song video was censored by the BBC as one of the scenes showed half a dozen German footballers, all with the name Kuntz on the back of their jerseys.
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It usually is. In a little over 20 years the Tory party went from being the party of Section 28 to the party of same sex marriage.Alistair said:
The Scottish attitude to homosexuality went through a spectacularly rapid change. When the age of consent was lowered to 18 across mainland UK in 1994 the Scottish police forces said they were going to treat it as 16.TheScreamingEagles said:
We're no better in some respects.Alistair said:
I was reminded today that less than 50 years ago inter-racial marriage illegal in a third of the US states. What is gobsmacking though is that support for interracial marriage only became a majority position in the mid 1990s!SouthamObserver said:I love the way that right wingers attack well-off lefty actors for their incoherently expressed beliefs, but stay silent about the views espoused by privileged white supremacists appointed to senior positions by Donald Trump.
Just to think in parts of the UK homosexuality was illegal a little over thirty years ago.0 -
Wow. You really are in the money right now!MaxPB said:
Saving it for my new 4K TV. Delivery in 5 weeks!Casino_Royale said:
It is terrific.TheScreamingEagles said:Can I just say The Grand Tour is the dog's dangly bits
In Ultra-HD, it is just wow.
I want a drive around the Ebola-dome
I'm about to order a new Jaguar.0
