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    MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 37,610

    MaxPB said:

    Can I just say The Grand Tour is the dog's dangly bits

    In Ultra-HD, it is just wow.

    I want a drive around the Ebola-dome

    It is terrific.
    Saving it for my new 4K TV. Delivery in 5 weeks!
    Have you got decent broadband coverage?

    The minimum speed to stream 4k is 25 Mbps.

    Thank god for Infinity 2.
    It will be in Zurich, I'm getting Cablecom fibre which is 500mb down!
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    MaxPB said:

    MaxPB said:

    Can I just say The Grand Tour is the dog's dangly bits

    In Ultra-HD, it is just wow.

    I want a drive around the Ebola-dome

    It is terrific.
    Saving it for my new 4K TV. Delivery in 5 weeks!
    Have you got decent broadband coverage?

    The minimum speed to stream 4k is 25 Mbps.

    Thank god for Infinity 2.
    It will be in Zurich, I'm getting Cablecom fibre which is 500mb down!
    Show off.
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    MaxPB said:

    Can I just say The Grand Tour is the dog's dangly bits

    In Ultra-HD, it is just wow.

    I want a drive around the Ebola-dome

    It is terrific.
    Saving it for my new 4K TV. Delivery in 5 weeks!
    Wow. You really are in the money right now!

    I'm about to order a new Jaguar.
    Entry level 4K TVs now aren't that expensive now, you can pick them up for less than £400 now
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    SandpitSandpit Posts: 49,927
    MaxPB said:

    MaxPB said:

    Can I just say The Grand Tour is the dog's dangly bits

    In Ultra-HD, it is just wow.

    I want a drive around the Ebola-dome

    It is terrific.
    Saving it for my new 4K TV. Delivery in 5 weeks!
    Have you got decent broadband coverage?

    The minimum speed to stream 4k is 25 Mbps.

    Thank god for Infinity 2.
    It will be in Zurich, I'm getting Cablecom fibre which is 500mb down!
    Nice! :+1:
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    Moses_Moses_ Posts: 4,865

    O/T - Paging any Spanish speakers on PB

    I've just found out there's a Spanish football player who plays for Malaga called Juankar.

    So how the hell do I pronounce Juankar?

    Hwan-car - close but no cigar.

    I did meet a bloke called Hank Wank at a conference in the US once. Like Trump he was oblivious to his surname's real meaning.

    I met a German delegate at a Trade show in London called Herman Wank. My fave though still remains a Chinese Techincian I met in Singapore called Hoo Suk Bum.

    I guess some of our names might have similar issues for them?
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    rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 54,052
    MaxPB said:

    MaxPB said:

    Can I just say The Grand Tour is the dog's dangly bits

    In Ultra-HD, it is just wow.

    I want a drive around the Ebola-dome

    It is terrific.
    Saving it for my new 4K TV. Delivery in 5 weeks!
    Have you got decent broadband coverage?

    The minimum speed to stream 4k is 25 Mbps.

    Thank god for Infinity 2.
    It will be in Zurich, I'm getting Cablecom fibre which is 500mb down!
    Now we've been acquired by a Swiss firm, I'll be in Zurich a fair amount. I'll ping you when I'm next there.
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    MaxPB said:

    Can I just say The Grand Tour is the dog's dangly bits

    In Ultra-HD, it is just wow.

    I want a drive around the Ebola-dome

    It is terrific.
    Saving it for my new 4K TV. Delivery in 5 weeks!
    Wow. You really are in the money right now!

    I'm about to order a new Jaguar.
    Entry level 4K TVs now aren't that expensive now, you can pick them up for less than £400 now
    Are they? Thought they were around about £1,500-£2,000.

    At least, that's the impression John Lewis gave me.
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    Can I just say The Grand Tour is the dog's dangly bits

    In Ultra-HD, it is just wow.

    I want a drive around the Ebola-dome

    But what about its being too filimic, with too much hubris? ;-)
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    MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 37,610

    MaxPB said:

    Can I just say The Grand Tour is the dog's dangly bits

    In Ultra-HD, it is just wow.

    I want a drive around the Ebola-dome

    It is terrific.
    Saving it for my new 4K TV. Delivery in 5 weeks!
    Wow. You really are in the money right now!

    I'm about to order a new Jaguar.
    I just completed the sale of my Shepherds Bush flat, I ended up with 2.5x my purchase price from 2013. Plus I'm getting a truly massive pay rise in January when I start my new job. I'm feeling a bit SeanT like, just without the impulse to sleep with women half my age (especially given it would be illegal).
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    MaxPB said:

    Can I just say The Grand Tour is the dog's dangly bits

    In Ultra-HD, it is just wow.

    I want a drive around the Ebola-dome

    It is terrific.
    Saving it for my new 4K TV. Delivery in 5 weeks!
    Wow. You really are in the money right now!

    I'm about to order a new Jaguar.
    Entry level 4K TVs now aren't that expensive now, you can pick them up for less than £400 now
    Are they? Thought they were around about £1,500-£2,000.

    At least, that's the impression John Lewis gave me.
    The top end ones are.

    Here's one for £399.

    http://www.johnlewis.com/samsung-ue40ku6020-hdr-4k-ultra-hd-smart-tv-40-with-freeview-hd-playstation-now-purcolour/p3078184
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    Can I just say The Grand Tour is the dog's dangly bits

    In Ultra-HD, it is just wow.

    I want a drive around the Ebola-dome

    But what about its being too filimic, with too much hubris? ;-)
    I would say it's slightly grander than Top Gear, but also more international and a bit less British. I'm sure that's no accident.
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    ydoethurydoethur Posts: 67,334
    edited November 2016
    Magnificent.

    Edit - bloody hell, he looks more knackered than a teacher after an OFSTED inspection.
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    Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669
    Jonathan said:

    Can I just say The Grand Tour is the dog's dangly bits

    In Ultra-HD, it is just wow.

    I want a drive around the Ebola-dome

    It is terrific.
    Verdict here was not as good as Top Gear in its prime, but better than the Evans effort.
    As i said on here before I think some of the UK-US comedy was a bit labored, and "The American" sucked big time.

    But as the first episode of a new show it was very good. The chemistry is as good as ever and when they settle in they'll be fine.

    I seem to be in the minority in not being too impressed with the new track.
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    MaxPB said:

    MaxPB said:

    Can I just say The Grand Tour is the dog's dangly bits

    In Ultra-HD, it is just wow.

    I want a drive around the Ebola-dome

    It is terrific.
    Saving it for my new 4K TV. Delivery in 5 weeks!
    Wow. You really are in the money right now!

    I'm about to order a new Jaguar.
    I just completed the sale of my Shepherds Bush flat, I ended up with 2.5x my purchase price from 2013. Plus I'm getting a truly massive pay rise in January when I start my new job. I'm feeling a bit SeanT like, just without the impulse to sleep with women half my age (especially given it would be illegal).
    ;-)

    Good luck to you. You've done well.

    Right, off to catch Planet Earth.
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    Can I just say The Grand Tour is the dog's dangly bits

    In Ultra-HD, it is just wow.

    I want a drive around the Ebola-dome

    But what about its being too filimic, with too much hubris? ;-)
    I saw that review, I was like, have you not heard of Smart TVs.
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    brokenwheelbrokenwheel Posts: 3,352
    Interesting, might be a battle for second? Based on results 2913 polling stations, another 8015 to go.

    https://twitter.com/LePoint/status/800427495849947136
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,291
    edited November 2016

    Can I just say The Grand Tour is the dog's dangly bits

    In Ultra-HD, it is just wow.

    I want a drive around the Ebola-dome

    But what about its being too filimic, with too much hubris? ;-)
    I saw that review, I was like, have you not heard of Smart TVs.
    Just because iPlayer doesn't even do proper HD....and us weebles are all forced to watch these streaming services exclusively on our tiny smartphones.
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    MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 37,610
    edited November 2016
    rcs1000 said:

    MaxPB said:

    MaxPB said:

    Can I just say The Grand Tour is the dog's dangly bits

    In Ultra-HD, it is just wow.

    I want a drive around the Ebola-dome

    It is terrific.
    Saving it for my new 4K TV. Delivery in 5 weeks!
    Have you got decent broadband coverage?

    The minimum speed to stream 4k is 25 Mbps.

    Thank god for Infinity 2.
    It will be in Zurich, I'm getting Cablecom fibre which is 500mb down!
    Now we've been acquired by a Swiss firm, I'll be in Zurich a fair amount. I'll ping you when I'm next there.
    :smile:
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    MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 37,610

    MaxPB said:

    MaxPB said:

    Can I just say The Grand Tour is the dog's dangly bits

    In Ultra-HD, it is just wow.

    I want a drive around the Ebola-dome

    It is terrific.
    Saving it for my new 4K TV. Delivery in 5 weeks!
    Have you got decent broadband coverage?

    The minimum speed to stream 4k is 25 Mbps.

    Thank god for Infinity 2.
    It will be in Zurich, I'm getting Cablecom fibre which is 500mb down!
    Show off.
    As I said, I'm channelling my inner SeanT!
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    rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 54,052

    Interesting, might be a battle for second? Based on results 2913 polling stations, another 8015 to go.

    https://twitter.com/LePoint/status/800427495849947136

    If these numbers are correct, it's 95% sure it'll be Fillon.
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    SandpitSandpit Posts: 49,927
    MaxPB said:

    MaxPB said:

    Can I just say The Grand Tour is the dog's dangly bits

    In Ultra-HD, it is just wow.

    I want a drive around the Ebola-dome

    It is terrific.
    Saving it for my new 4K TV. Delivery in 5 weeks!
    Wow. You really are in the money right now!

    I'm about to order a new Jaguar.
    I just completed the sale of my Shepherds Bush flat, I ended up with 2.5x my purchase price from 2013. Plus I'm getting a truly massive pay rise in January when I start my new job. I'm feeling a bit SeanT like, just without the impulse to sleep with women half my age (especially given it would be illegal).
    Did you paint the walls of your flat with gold leaf or something? That's just bonkers inflation!
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    Sandpit said:

    MaxPB said:

    MaxPB said:

    Can I just say The Grand Tour is the dog's dangly bits

    In Ultra-HD, it is just wow.

    I want a drive around the Ebola-dome

    It is terrific.
    Saving it for my new 4K TV. Delivery in 5 weeks!
    Wow. You really are in the money right now!

    I'm about to order a new Jaguar.
    I just completed the sale of my Shepherds Bush flat, I ended up with 2.5x my purchase price from 2013. Plus I'm getting a truly massive pay rise in January when I start my new job. I'm feeling a bit SeanT like, just without the impulse to sleep with women half my age (especially given it would be illegal).
    Did you paint the walls of your flat with gold leaf or something? That's just bonkers inflation!
    I blame Brexit ;-)
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    Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669

    MaxPB said:

    Can I just say The Grand Tour is the dog's dangly bits

    In Ultra-HD, it is just wow.

    I want a drive around the Ebola-dome

    It is terrific.
    Saving it for my new 4K TV. Delivery in 5 weeks!
    Wow. You really are in the money right now!

    I'm about to order a new Jaguar.
    Entry level 4K TVs now aren't that expensive now, you can pick them up for less than £400 now
    Are they? Thought they were around about £1,500-£2,000.

    At least, that's the impression John Lewis gave me.
    The top end ones are.

    Here's one for £399.

    http://www.johnlewis.com/samsung-ue40ku6020-hdr-4k-ultra-hd-smart-tv-40-with-freeview-hd-playstation-now-purcolour/p3078184
    If you're going 4k you need at least a 60" to appreciate how good it is.
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    Can I just say The Grand Tour is the dog's dangly bits

    In Ultra-HD, it is just wow.

    I want a drive around the Ebola-dome

    But what about its being too filimic, with too much hubris? ;-)
    I saw that review, I was like, have you not heard of Smart TVs.
    Just because iPlayer doesn't even do proper HD....and us weebles are all forced to watch these streaming services exclusively on our tiny smartphones.
    I read somewhere the BBC have no plans for 4K, big mistake.

    Buying big fuck off TVs, as my friend put it, is one of my indulgences.

    I'd rather wait a few days to watch it on my TV than watch it straight away.
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    chestnutchestnut Posts: 7,341
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    ydoethurydoethur Posts: 67,334
    If you have bets on anyone other than Murray being SPOTY, I rather suspect that you have lost your money.
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    MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,299

    Interesting, might be a battle for second? Based on results 2913 polling stations, another 8015 to go.

    https://twitter.com/LePoint/status/800427495849947136

    Is there a reason for the light blue / dark blue split?

    Does it represent different wings of the party?
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    MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 37,610
    Sandpit said:

    MaxPB said:

    MaxPB said:

    Can I just say The Grand Tour is the dog's dangly bits

    In Ultra-HD, it is just wow.

    I want a drive around the Ebola-dome

    It is terrific.
    Saving it for my new 4K TV. Delivery in 5 weeks!
    Wow. You really are in the money right now!

    I'm about to order a new Jaguar.
    I just completed the sale of my Shepherds Bush flat, I ended up with 2.5x my purchase price from 2013. Plus I'm getting a truly massive pay rise in January when I start my new job. I'm feeling a bit SeanT like, just without the impulse to sleep with women half my age (especially given it would be illegal).
    Did you paint the walls of your flat with gold leaf or something? That's just bonkers inflation!
    I just got very lucky when I bought in 2013. Ended up buying a share of freehold which is pretty rare for flats in the area. We also invested in building out the attic which was undeveloped when I bought it which added significant value. The area also got a huge amount of uplift over the last three years.

    Essentially it was just luck. I think I'm selling at the very top of the market for the area and I'm selling this share of freehold, rather than a lease which means it's in higher demand.
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    SandpitSandpit Posts: 49,927
    Dear Faisal,
    Rebase your x-axis to 28 days and look again, unless you're reporting history rather than news.
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,291
    edited November 2016

    Can I just say The Grand Tour is the dog's dangly bits

    In Ultra-HD, it is just wow.

    I want a drive around the Ebola-dome

    But what about its being too filimic, with too much hubris? ;-)
    I saw that review, I was like, have you not heard of Smart TVs.
    Just because iPlayer doesn't even do proper HD....and us weebles are all forced to watch these streaming services exclusively on our tiny smartphones.
    I read somewhere the BBC have no plans for 4K, big mistake.

    Buying big fuck off TVs, as my friend put it, is one of my indulgences.

    I'd rather wait a few days to watch it on my TV than watch it straight away.
    They are being very stupid if they aren't gearing up for 4k. My TV, my laptop, my monitors, all 4k. BT Sport have introduced 4k, as have Sky. Its not like 3D where it is a weird optional extra that some people might go for and turned out to be a flop. Its here, its used in the film industry, Netflix are making their best programming in 4k, as are Amazon Prime, etc etc etc, its not going away.
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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,137
    Tim_B said:

    Can I just say The Grand Tour is the dog's dangly bits

    In Ultra-HD, it is just wow.

    I want a drive around the Ebola-dome

    as far as I can tell, the 'ebola drome' is on the Science Museum site at Wroughton.

    what did you think of -

    a) "The American"

    b) some of the US vs UK comedic lines seeming a bit labored, mainly the 'stick', bonnet and RAF
    The dead celebrities fell flat.

    Literally.

    But otherwise, just like they'd never been away.
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    MaxPB said:

    Sandpit said:

    MaxPB said:

    MaxPB said:

    Can I just say The Grand Tour is the dog's dangly bits

    In Ultra-HD, it is just wow.

    I want a drive around the Ebola-dome

    It is terrific.
    Saving it for my new 4K TV. Delivery in 5 weeks!
    Wow. You really are in the money right now!

    I'm about to order a new Jaguar.
    I just completed the sale of my Shepherds Bush flat, I ended up with 2.5x my purchase price from 2013. Plus I'm getting a truly massive pay rise in January when I start my new job. I'm feeling a bit SeanT like, just without the impulse to sleep with women half my age (especially given it would be illegal).
    Did you paint the walls of your flat with gold leaf or something? That's just bonkers inflation!
    I just got very lucky when I bought in 2013. Ended up buying a share of freehold which is pretty rare for flats in the area. We also invested in building out the attic which was undeveloped when I bought it which added significant value. The area also got a huge amount of uplift over the last three years.

    Essentially it was just luck. I think I'm selling at the very top of the market for the area and I'm selling this share of freehold, rather than a lease which means it's in higher demand.
    I got lucky too. Back in 2000, I had just finished university, accepted a job in London, I was about to rent, then my Mother said I shouldn't rent, I should buy a house, my Father took out my mortgage for me, and I sent him my 'rent money'

    When I moved up north and sold the place in 2006 I timed it right.
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    tlg86tlg86 Posts: 25,195
    ydoethur said:

    If you have bets on anyone other than Murray being SPOTY, I rather suspect that you have lost your money.

    Nah, not over yet. I hope.
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    SandpitSandpit Posts: 49,927
    MaxPB said:

    Sandpit said:

    MaxPB said:

    MaxPB said:

    Can I just say The Grand Tour is the dog's dangly bits

    In Ultra-HD, it is just wow.

    I want a drive around the Ebola-dome

    It is terrific.
    Saving it for my new 4K TV. Delivery in 5 weeks!
    Wow. You really are in the money right now!

    I'm about to order a new Jaguar.
    I just completed the sale of my Shepherds Bush flat, I ended up with 2.5x my purchase price from 2013. Plus I'm getting a truly massive pay rise in January when I start my new job. I'm feeling a bit SeanT like, just without the impulse to sleep with women half my age (especially given it would be illegal).
    Did you paint the walls of your flat with gold leaf or something? That's just bonkers inflation!
    I just got very lucky when I bought in 2013. Ended up buying a share of freehold which is pretty rare for flats in the area. We also invested in building out the attic which was undeveloped when I bought it which added significant value. The area also got a huge amount of uplift over the last three years.

    Essentially it was just luck. I think I'm selling at the very top of the market for the area and I'm selling this share of freehold, rather than a lease which means it's in higher demand.
    Well that's some mighty good luck then! I think my place in southern England has gone up about 20% in the same time.
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    JonathanJonathan Posts: 20,902

    Tim_B said:

    Can I just say The Grand Tour is the dog's dangly bits

    In Ultra-HD, it is just wow.

    I want a drive around the Ebola-dome

    as far as I can tell, the 'ebola drome' is on the Science Museum site at Wroughton.

    what did you think of -

    a) "The American"

    b) some of the US vs UK comedic lines seeming a bit labored, mainly the 'stick', bonnet and RAF
    The dead celebrities fell flat.

    Literally.

    But otherwise, just like they'd never been away.
    TG was getting tired before Clarkson hit someone.

    It will be interesting to see if they can do something fresh here.

    I suspect not.
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    Can I just say The Grand Tour is the dog's dangly bits

    In Ultra-HD, it is just wow.

    I want a drive around the Ebola-dome

    But what about its being too filimic, with too much hubris? ;-)
    I saw that review, I was like, have you not heard of Smart TVs.
    Just because iPlayer doesn't even do proper HD....and us weebles are all forced to watch these streaming services exclusively on our tiny smartphones.
    I read somewhere the BBC have no plans for 4K, big mistake.

    Buying big fuck off TVs, as my friend put it, is one of my indulgences.

    I'd rather wait a few days to watch it on my TV than watch it straight away.
    They are being very stupid if they aren't gearing up for 4k. My TV, my laptop, my monitors, all 4k. BT Sport have introduced 4k, as have Sky. Its not like 3D where it is a weird optional extra that some people might go for and turned out to be a flop. Its here, its used in the film industry, Netflix are making their best programming in 4k, as are Amazon Prime, etc etc etc, its not going away.
    They've filmed Earth II in 4k, but that's for international audiences.
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    Jonathan said:

    Tim_B said:

    Can I just say The Grand Tour is the dog's dangly bits

    In Ultra-HD, it is just wow.

    I want a drive around the Ebola-dome

    as far as I can tell, the 'ebola drome' is on the Science Museum site at Wroughton.

    what did you think of -

    a) "The American"

    b) some of the US vs UK comedic lines seeming a bit labored, mainly the 'stick', bonnet and RAF
    The dead celebrities fell flat.

    Literally.

    But otherwise, just like they'd never been away.
    TG was getting tired before Clarkson hit someone.

    It will be interesting to see if they can do something fresh here.

    I suspect not.
    I don't know some of the funniest stuff (that ambulance race) was in the last series
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,291
    edited November 2016

    Can I just say The Grand Tour is the dog's dangly bits

    In Ultra-HD, it is just wow.

    I want a drive around the Ebola-dome

    But what about its being too filimic, with too much hubris? ;-)
    I saw that review, I was like, have you not heard of Smart TVs.
    Just because iPlayer doesn't even do proper HD....and us weebles are all forced to watch these streaming services exclusively on our tiny smartphones.
    I read somewhere the BBC have no plans for 4K, big mistake.

    Buying big fuck off TVs, as my friend put it, is one of my indulgences.

    I'd rather wait a few days to watch it on my TV than watch it straight away.
    They are being very stupid if they aren't gearing up for 4k. My TV, my laptop, my monitors, all 4k. BT Sport have introduced 4k, as have Sky. Its not like 3D where it is a weird optional extra that some people might go for and turned out to be a flop. Its here, its used in the film industry, Netflix are making their best programming in 4k, as are Amazon Prime, etc etc etc, its not going away.
    They've filmed Earth II in 4k, but that's for international audiences.
    As I have said repeatedly, despite lots of people lauding iPlayer, it is a bag of shit....not the programming, the actual technology.
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    williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 48,116
    https://twitter.com/gillesverdez/status/800430842636107777

    Another polling failure. What does that say about the polling for the big one?
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    Jonathan said:

    Tim_B said:

    Can I just say The Grand Tour is the dog's dangly bits

    In Ultra-HD, it is just wow.

    I want a drive around the Ebola-dome

    as far as I can tell, the 'ebola drome' is on the Science Museum site at Wroughton.

    what did you think of -

    a) "The American"

    b) some of the US vs UK comedic lines seeming a bit labored, mainly the 'stick', bonnet and RAF
    The dead celebrities fell flat.

    Literally.

    But otherwise, just like they'd never been away.
    TG was getting tired before Clarkson hit someone.

    It will be interesting to see if they can do something fresh here.

    I suspect not.
    The first thing I noticed about the Grand Tour you can tell it had a lot more budget than Top Gear.

    I think that will allow them to keep on doing something fresh
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    williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 48,116
    edited November 2016

    Can I just say The Grand Tour is the dog's dangly bits

    In Ultra-HD, it is just wow.

    I want a drive around the Ebola-dome

    But what about its being too filimic, with too much hubris? ;-)
    I saw that review, I was like, have you not heard of Smart TVs.
    Just because iPlayer doesn't even do proper HD....and us weebles are all forced to watch these streaming services exclusively on our tiny smartphones.
    I read somewhere the BBC have no plans for 4K, big mistake.

    Buying big fuck off TVs, as my friend put it, is one of my indulgences.

    I'd rather wait a few days to watch it on my TV than watch it straight away.
    They are being very stupid if they aren't gearing up for 4k. My TV, my laptop, my monitors, all 4k. BT Sport have introduced 4k, as have Sky. Its not like 3D where it is a weird optional extra that some people might go for and turned out to be a flop. Its here, its used in the film industry, Netflix are making their best programming in 4k, as are Amazon Prime, etc etc etc, its not going away.
    They've filmed Earth II in 4k, but that's for international audiences.
    As I have said repeatedly, despite lots of people lauding iPlayer, it is a bag of shit....not the programming, the actual technology.
    It's just complacency. It was good for its time and the BBC thought they'd 'done' digital.
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    ydoethurydoethur Posts: 67,334
    edited November 2016
    tlg86 said:

    ydoethur said:

    If you have bets on anyone other than Murray being SPOTY, I rather suspect that you have lost your money.

    Nah, not over yet. I hope.
    Australian and French Open runner-up

    Wimbledon champion

    Olympic gold

    ATP Finals champion

    World No. 1.

    Three of them in Britain.

    Name me someone else who's got that kind of record.

    Currently at 1/2 and I think those odds are generous. 2nd favourite Alistair Brownlee at 5-1.
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    MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 37,610

    MaxPB said:

    Sandpit said:

    MaxPB said:

    MaxPB said:

    Can I just say The Grand Tour is the dog's dangly bits

    In Ultra-HD, it is just wow.

    I want a drive around the Ebola-dome

    It is terrific.
    Saving it for my new 4K TV. Delivery in 5 weeks!
    Wow. You really are in the money right now!

    I'm about to order a new Jaguar.
    I just completed the sale of my Shepherds Bush flat, I ended up with 2.5x my purchase price from 2013. Plus I'm getting a truly massive pay rise in January when I start my new job. I'm feeling a bit SeanT like, just without the impulse to sleep with women half my age (especially given it would be illegal).
    Did you paint the walls of your flat with gold leaf or something? That's just bonkers inflation!
    I just got very lucky when I bought in 2013. Ended up buying a share of freehold which is pretty rare for flats in the area. We also invested in building out the attic which was undeveloped when I bought it which added significant value. The area also got a huge amount of uplift over the last three years.

    Essentially it was just luck. I think I'm selling at the very top of the market for the area and I'm selling this share of freehold, rather than a lease which means it's in higher demand.
    I got lucky too. Back in 2000, I had just finished university, accepted a job in London, I was about to rent, then my Mother said I shouldn't rent, I should buy a house, my Father took out my mortgage for me, and I sent him my 'rent money'

    When I moved up north and sold the place in 2006 I timed it right.
    I got pretty much the same advice when my gf and I decided to move in together, my mum said don't waste money on renting and paying off someone else's mortgage. I basically spent every last pound I had, overstretched myself, lied to the bank a bit and got a huge mortgage at a barely affordable rate. But in the end it has worked out for me better than I could have ever imagined. I think Asians all have an aversion to renting, for good reason.
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,291
    edited November 2016
    I agree old Top Gear was felling tired too often. There were too many episodes that felt forced and phoned in. But then we got new Top Gear and it was f##king horrendous, even the worst episodes of old Top Gear was stellar in comparison.

    Perhaps Clarkson lamping the producer was the best for him and the audiences. By all accounts his life was a mess and the shows weren't up to the high standards.

    The BBC probably best to pack Top Gear (as is) in, it just looks like a piss poor imitation now. The two blokes on the spin off show was decent doing the more motoring focused stuff though.
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    JonathanJonathan Posts: 20,902

    Jonathan said:

    Tim_B said:

    Can I just say The Grand Tour is the dog's dangly bits

    In Ultra-HD, it is just wow.

    I want a drive around the Ebola-dome

    as far as I can tell, the 'ebola drome' is on the Science Museum site at Wroughton.

    what did you think of -

    a) "The American"

    b) some of the US vs UK comedic lines seeming a bit labored, mainly the 'stick', bonnet and RAF
    The dead celebrities fell flat.

    Literally.

    But otherwise, just like they'd never been away.
    TG was getting tired before Clarkson hit someone.

    It will be interesting to see if they can do something fresh here.

    I suspect not.
    The first thing I noticed about the Grand Tour you can tell it had a lot more budget than Top Gear.

    I think that will allow them to keep on doing something fresh
    Chucking money at will get them somewhere, but at what cost? Part of the charm of Top Gear was their low budget ingenuity. Keeping that will be tough, but not impossible.

    The GT is a bit like Elvis in Vegas.
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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,137
    edited November 2016
    Yay! Giant River Otters!

    Seen them....

    Edit: Ooh - jaguars!

    Seen them too....
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    Can I just say The Grand Tour is the dog's dangly bits

    In Ultra-HD, it is just wow.

    I want a drive around the Ebola-dome

    But what about its being too filimic, with too much hubris? ;-)
    I saw that review, I was like, have you not heard of Smart TVs.
    Just because iPlayer doesn't even do proper HD....and us weebles are all forced to watch these streaming services exclusively on our tiny smartphones.
    I read somewhere the BBC have no plans for 4K, big mistake.

    Buying big fuck off TVs, as my friend put it, is one of my indulgences.

    I'd rather wait a few days to watch it on my TV than watch it straight away.
    They are being very stupid if they aren't gearing up for 4k. My TV, my laptop, my monitors, all 4k. BT Sport have introduced 4k, as have Sky. Its not like 3D where it is a weird optional extra that some people might go for and turned out to be a flop. Its here, its used in the film industry, Netflix are making their best programming in 4k, as are Amazon Prime, etc etc etc, its not going away.
    They've filmed Earth II in 4k, but that's for international audiences.
    As I have said repeatedly, despite lots of people lauding iPlayer, it is a bag of shit....not the programming, the actual technology.
    It's just complacency. It was good for its time and the BBC thought they'd 'done' digital.
    It wasn't even good for the time. The pirates had better tech, I kid you not.
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    JonathanJonathan Posts: 20,902

    Can I just say The Grand Tour is the dog's dangly bits

    In Ultra-HD, it is just wow.

    I want a drive around the Ebola-dome

    But what about its being too filimic, with too much hubris? ;-)
    I saw that review, I was like, have you not heard of Smart TVs.
    Just because iPlayer doesn't even do proper HD....and us weebles are all forced to watch these streaming services exclusively on our tiny smartphones.
    I read somewhere the BBC have no plans for 4K, big mistake.

    Buying big fuck off TVs, as my friend put it, is one of my indulgences.

    I'd rather wait a few days to watch it on my TV than watch it straight away.
    They are being very stupid if they aren't gearing up for 4k. My TV, my laptop, my monitors, all 4k. BT Sport have introduced 4k, as have Sky. Its not like 3D where it is a weird optional extra that some people might go for and turned out to be a flop. Its here, its used in the film industry, Netflix are making their best programming in 4k, as are Amazon Prime, etc etc etc, its not going away.
    They've filmed Earth II in 4k, but that's for international audiences.
    As I have said repeatedly, despite lots of people lauding iPlayer, it is a bag of shit....not the programming, the actual technology.
    It's just complacency. It was good for its time and the BBC thought they'd 'done' digital.
    It wasn't even good for the time. The pirates had better tech, I kid you not.
    Nah. Iplayer scaled. The new players piggy back on the technical and legal work the corporation did with the ISPs.
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    JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 39,057

    Can I just say The Grand Tour is the dog's dangly bits

    In Ultra-HD, it is just wow.

    I want a drive around the Ebola-dome

    But what about its being too filimic, with too much hubris? ;-)
    I saw that review, I was like, have you not heard of Smart TVs.
    Just because iPlayer doesn't even do proper HD....and us weebles are all forced to watch these streaming services exclusively on our tiny smartphones.
    I read somewhere the BBC have no plans for 4K, big mistake.

    Buying big fuck off TVs, as my friend put it, is one of my indulgences.

    I'd rather wait a few days to watch it on my TV than watch it straight away.
    I'm not sure about the BBC:
    http://advanced-television.com/2016/06/27/bbc-readies-for-uhdhdr-transmissions/

    Though I imagine that bandwidth for 4k on terrestrial transmission would suck up the data available on the multiplexes. I'm also unsure if there have been broadcast standards defined for it yet (though I've been out of that part of the industry for yonks, and I've not been following it).

    No reason they couldn't deliver on iPlayer via cable, though.
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    williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 48,116
    I would expect Juppé to drop out on these numbers.
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    MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 37,610
    Jonathan said:

    Can I just say The Grand Tour is the dog's dangly bits

    In Ultra-HD, it is just wow.

    I want a drive around the Ebola-dome

    But what about its being too filimic, with too much hubris? ;-)
    I saw that review, I was like, have you not heard of Smart TVs.
    Just because iPlayer doesn't even do proper HD....and us weebles are all forced to watch these streaming services exclusively on our tiny smartphones.
    I read somewhere the BBC have no plans for 4K, big mistake.

    Buying big fuck off TVs, as my friend put it, is one of my indulgences.

    I'd rather wait a few days to watch it on my TV than watch it straight away.
    They are being very stupid if they aren't gearing up for 4k. My TV, my laptop, my monitors, all 4k. BT Sport have introduced 4k, as have Sky. Its not like 3D where it is a weird optional extra that some people might go for and turned out to be a flop. Its here, its used in the film industry, Netflix are making their best programming in 4k, as are Amazon Prime, etc etc etc, its not going away.
    They've filmed Earth II in 4k, but that's for international audiences.
    As I have said repeatedly, despite lots of people lauding iPlayer, it is a bag of shit....not the programming, the actual technology.
    It's just complacency. It was good for its time and the BBC thought they'd 'done' digital.
    It wasn't even good for the time. The pirates had better tech, I kid you not.
    Nah. Iplayer scaled. The new players piggy back on the technical and legal work the corporation did with the ISPs.
    No, iPlayer doesn't buffer at all. It's complete shit.
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    Jonathan said:

    Can I just say The Grand Tour is the dog's dangly bits

    In Ultra-HD, it is just wow.

    I want a drive around the Ebola-dome

    But what about its being too filimic, with too much hubris? ;-)
    I saw that review, I was like, have you not heard of Smart TVs.
    Just because iPlayer doesn't even do proper HD....and us weebles are all forced to watch these streaming services exclusively on our tiny smartphones.
    I read somewhere the BBC have no plans for 4K, big mistake.

    Buying big fuck off TVs, as my friend put it, is one of my indulgences.

    I'd rather wait a few days to watch it on my TV than watch it straight away.
    They are being very stupid if they aren't gearing up for 4k. My TV, my laptop, my monitors, all 4k. BT Sport have introduced 4k, as have Sky. Its not like 3D where it is a weird optional extra that some people might go for and turned out to be a flop. Its here, its used in the film industry, Netflix are making their best programming in 4k, as are Amazon Prime, etc etc etc, its not going away.
    They've filmed Earth II in 4k, but that's for international audiences.
    As I have said repeatedly, despite lots of people lauding iPlayer, it is a bag of shit....not the programming, the actual technology.
    It's just complacency. It was good for its time and the BBC thought they'd 'done' digital.
    It wasn't even good for the time. The pirates had better tech, I kid you not.
    Nah. Iplayer scaled. The new players piggy back on the technical and legal work the corporation did with the ISPs.
    You tell yourself that, but it isn't true on lots of aspects not just no full HD.
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    JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 39,057
    Jonathan said:

    Can I just say The Grand Tour is the dog's dangly bits

    In Ultra-HD, it is just wow.

    I want a drive around the Ebola-dome

    But what about its being too filimic, with too much hubris? ;-)
    I saw that review, I was like, have you not heard of Smart TVs.
    Just because iPlayer doesn't even do proper HD....and us weebles are all forced to watch these streaming services exclusively on our tiny smartphones.
    I read somewhere the BBC have no plans for 4K, big mistake.

    Buying big fuck off TVs, as my friend put it, is one of my indulgences.

    I'd rather wait a few days to watch it on my TV than watch it straight away.
    They are being very stupid if they aren't gearing up for 4k. My TV, my laptop, my monitors, all 4k. BT Sport have introduced 4k, as have Sky. Its not like 3D where it is a weird optional extra that some people might go for and turned out to be a flop. Its here, its used in the film industry, Netflix are making their best programming in 4k, as are Amazon Prime, etc etc etc, its not going away.
    They've filmed Earth II in 4k, but that's for international audiences.
    As I have said repeatedly, despite lots of people lauding iPlayer, it is a bag of shit....not the programming, the actual technology.
    It's just complacency. It was good for its time and the BBC thought they'd 'done' digital.
    It wasn't even good for the time. The pirates had better tech, I kid you not.
    Nah. Iplayer scaled. The new players piggy back on the technical and legal work the corporation did with the ISPs.
    I've worked with some BBC technical bods in the past on projects. They're excellent, and have developed great tech. If they get the managerial backing they can do amazing stuff (or if they skunkworks it).
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    MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 37,610

    Can I just say The Grand Tour is the dog's dangly bits

    In Ultra-HD, it is just wow.

    I want a drive around the Ebola-dome

    But what about its being too filimic, with too much hubris? ;-)
    I saw that review, I was like, have you not heard of Smart TVs.
    Just because iPlayer doesn't even do proper HD....and us weebles are all forced to watch these streaming services exclusively on our tiny smartphones.
    I read somewhere the BBC have no plans for 4K, big mistake.

    Buying big fuck off TVs, as my friend put it, is one of my indulgences.

    I'd rather wait a few days to watch it on my TV than watch it straight away.
    I'm not sure about the BBC:
    http://advanced-television.com/2016/06/27/bbc-readies-for-uhdhdr-transmissions/

    Though I imagine that bandwidth for 4k on terrestrial transmission would suck up the data available on the multiplexes. I'm also unsure if there have been broadcast standards defined for it yet (though I've been out of that part of the industry for yonks, and I've not been following it).

    No reason they couldn't deliver on iPlayer via cable, though.
    There is no DVB-T standard for 4K yet, 4k Blu-ray uses HEVC at 100Mbps, terrestrial 4k would need at least 30-40Mbps for live TV, 25-30Mbps for pre-recorded content.
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    brokenwheelbrokenwheel Posts: 3,352
    MikeL said:


    Is there a reason for the light blue / dark blue split?

    Does it represent different wings of the party?

    No, not really. Can't see a particular reason.

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    rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 54,052

    I would expect Juppé to drop out on these numbers.

    Definitely
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,291
    edited November 2016

    Jonathan said:

    Can I just say The Grand Tour is the dog's dangly bits

    In Ultra-HD, it is just wow.

    I want a drive around the Ebola-dome

    But what about its being too filimic, with too much hubris? ;-)
    I saw that review, I was like, have you not heard of Smart TVs.
    Just because iPlayer doesn't even do proper HD....and us weebles are all forced to watch these streaming services exclusively on our tiny smartphones.
    I read somewhere the BBC have no plans for 4K, big mistake.

    Buying big fuck off TVs, as my friend put it, is one of my indulgences.

    I'd rather wait a few days to watch it on my TV than watch it straight away.
    They are being very stupid if they aren't gearing up for 4k. My TV, my laptop, my monitors, all 4k. BT Sport have introduced 4k, as have Sky. Its not like 3D where it is a weird optional extra that some people might go for and turned out to be a flop. Its here, its used in the film industry, Netflix are making their best programming in 4k, as are Amazon Prime, etc etc etc, its not going away.
    They've filmed Earth II in 4k, but that's for international audiences.
    As I have said repeatedly, despite lots of people lauding iPlayer, it is a bag of shit....not the programming, the actual technology.
    It's just complacency. It was good for its time and the BBC thought they'd 'done' digital.
    It wasn't even good for the time. The pirates had better tech, I kid you not.
    Nah. Iplayer scaled. The new players piggy back on the technical and legal work the corporation did with the ISPs.
    I've worked with some BBC technical bods in the past on projects. They're excellent, and have developed great tech. If they get the managerial backing they can do amazing stuff (or if they skunkworks it).
    Like the £100 million digital media project that they had to abandon after trying to reinvent the wheel when they could have just brought a solution of the shelf?
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    Can I just say The Grand Tour is the dog's dangly bits

    In Ultra-HD, it is just wow.

    I want a drive around the Ebola-dome

    But what about its being too filimic, with too much hubris? ;-)
    I saw that review, I was like, have you not heard of Smart TVs.
    Just because iPlayer doesn't even do proper HD....and us weebles are all forced to watch these streaming services exclusively on our tiny smartphones.
    I read somewhere the BBC have no plans for 4K, big mistake.

    Buying big fuck off TVs, as my friend put it, is one of my indulgences.

    I'd rather wait a few days to watch it on my TV than watch it straight away.
    I'm not sure about the BBC:
    http://advanced-television.com/2016/06/27/bbc-readies-for-uhdhdr-transmissions/

    Though I imagine that bandwidth for 4k on terrestrial transmission would suck up the data available on the multiplexes. I'm also unsure if there have been broadcast standards defined for it yet (though I've been out of that part of the industry for yonks, and I've not been following it).

    No reason they couldn't deliver on iPlayer via cable, though.
    When HD launched in the U.K. the BBC were at the forefront of that.

    Now when 4K came to the U.K. they are well behind Sky, Netflix, Amazon, and BT.
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,291
    edited November 2016

    Can I just say The Grand Tour is the dog's dangly bits

    In Ultra-HD, it is just wow.

    I want a drive around the Ebola-dome

    But what about its being too filimic, with too much hubris? ;-)
    I saw that review, I was like, have you not heard of Smart TVs.
    Just because iPlayer doesn't even do proper HD....and us weebles are all forced to watch these streaming services exclusively on our tiny smartphones.
    I read somewhere the BBC have no plans for 4K, big mistake.

    Buying big fuck off TVs, as my friend put it, is one of my indulgences.

    I'd rather wait a few days to watch it on my TV than watch it straight away.
    I'm not sure about the BBC:
    http://advanced-television.com/2016/06/27/bbc-readies-for-uhdhdr-transmissions/

    Though I imagine that bandwidth for 4k on terrestrial transmission would suck up the data available on the multiplexes. I'm also unsure if there have been broadcast standards defined for it yet (though I've been out of that part of the industry for yonks, and I've not been following it).

    No reason they couldn't deliver on iPlayer via cable, though.
    When HD launched in the U.K. the BBC were at the forefront of that.

    Now when 4K came to the U.K. they are well behind Sky, Netflix, Amazon, and BT.
    I don't think that is true. Sky offered had HD channels for a year before BBC.
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    JonathanJonathan Posts: 20,902

    Can I just say The Grand Tour is the dog's dangly bits

    In Ultra-HD, it is just wow.

    I want a drive around the Ebola-dome

    But what about its being too filimic, with too much hubris? ;-)
    I saw that review, I was like, have you not heard of Smart TVs.
    Just because iPlayer doesn't even do proper HD....and us weebles are all forced to watch these streaming services exclusively on our tiny smartphones.
    I read somewhere the BBC have no plans for 4K, big mistake.

    Buying big fuck off TVs, as my friend put it, is one of my indulgences.

    I'd rather wait a few days to watch it on my TV than watch it straight away.
    I'm not sure about the BBC:
    http://advanced-television.com/2016/06/27/bbc-readies-for-uhdhdr-transmissions/

    Though I imagine that bandwidth for 4k on terrestrial transmission would suck up the data available on the multiplexes. I'm also unsure if there have been broadcast standards defined for it yet (though I've been out of that part of the industry for yonks, and I've not been following it).

    No reason they couldn't deliver on iPlayer via cable, though.
    When HD launched in the U.K. the BBC were at the forefront of that.

    Now when 4K came to the U.K. they are well behind Sky, Netflix, Amazon, and BT.
    Tory government cuts licence fee.
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    RobDRobD Posts: 58,985
    edited November 2016

    Can I just say The Grand Tour is the dog's dangly bits

    In Ultra-HD, it is just wow.

    I want a drive around the Ebola-dome

    But what about its being too filimic, with too much hubris? ;-)
    I saw that review, I was like, have you not heard of Smart TVs.
    Just because iPlayer doesn't even do proper HD....and us weebles are all forced to watch these streaming services exclusively on our tiny smartphones.
    I read somewhere the BBC have no plans for 4K, big mistake.

    Buying big fuck off TVs, as my friend put it, is one of my indulgences.

    I'd rather wait a few days to watch it on my TV than watch it straight away.
    I'm not sure about the BBC:
    http://advanced-television.com/2016/06/27/bbc-readies-for-uhdhdr-transmissions/

    Though I imagine that bandwidth for 4k on terrestrial transmission would suck up the data available on the multiplexes. I'm also unsure if there have been broadcast standards defined for it yet (though I've been out of that part of the industry for yonks, and I've not been following it).

    No reason they couldn't deliver on iPlayer via cable, though.
    When HD launched in the U.K. the BBC were at the forefront of that.

    Now when 4K came to the U.K. they are well behind Sky, Netflix, Amazon, and BT.
    I don't think that is true. Sky had had HD channels for a while.
    The BBC HD channel started in 2006, same year as Sky actually!
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,291
    edited November 2016
    RobD said:

    Can I just say The Grand Tour is the dog's dangly bits

    In Ultra-HD, it is just wow.

    I want a drive around the Ebola-dome

    But what about its being too filimic, with too much hubris? ;-)
    I saw that review, I was like, have you not heard of Smart TVs.
    Just because iPlayer doesn't even do proper HD....and us weebles are all forced to watch these streaming services exclusively on our tiny smartphones.
    I read somewhere the BBC have no plans for 4K, big mistake.

    Buying big fuck off TVs, as my friend put it, is one of my indulgences.

    I'd rather wait a few days to watch it on my TV than watch it straight away.
    I'm not sure about the BBC:
    http://advanced-television.com/2016/06/27/bbc-readies-for-uhdhdr-transmissions/

    Though I imagine that bandwidth for 4k on terrestrial transmission would suck up the data available on the multiplexes. I'm also unsure if there have been broadcast standards defined for it yet (though I've been out of that part of the industry for yonks, and I've not been following it).

    No reason they couldn't deliver on iPlayer via cable, though.
    When HD launched in the U.K. the BBC were at the forefront of that.

    Now when 4K came to the U.K. they are well behind Sky, Netflix, Amazon, and BT.
    I don't think that is true. Sky had had HD channels for a while.
    The BBC HD channel started in 2006.
    As a test. Didn't launch properly until end of 2007. Sky had rolled HD during 2006 and were doing all their major sports in it.
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    Can I just say The Grand Tour is the dog's dangly bits

    In Ultra-HD, it is just wow.

    I want a drive around the Ebola-dome

    But what about its being too filimic, with too much hubris? ;-)
    I saw that review, I was like, have you not heard of Smart TVs.
    Just because iPlayer doesn't even do proper HD....and us weebles are all forced to watch these streaming services exclusively on our tiny smartphones.
    I read somewhere the BBC have no plans for 4K, big mistake.

    Buying big fuck off TVs, as my friend put it, is one of my indulgences.

    I'd rather wait a few days to watch it on my TV than watch it straight away.
    I'm not sure about the BBC:
    http://advanced-television.com/2016/06/27/bbc-readies-for-uhdhdr-transmissions/

    Though I imagine that bandwidth for 4k on terrestrial transmission would suck up the data available on the multiplexes. I'm also unsure if there have been broadcast standards defined for it yet (though I've been out of that part of the industry for yonks, and I've not been following it).

    No reason they couldn't deliver on iPlayer via cable, though.
    When HD launched in the U.K. the BBC were at the forefront of that.

    Now when 4K came to the U.K. they are well behind Sky, Netflix, Amazon, and BT.
    I don't think that is true. Sky had had HD channels for a while.
    BBC Hd came out at the same time in 2006

    I got Sky HD the day it came out. I remember watching the 2006 World Cup matches on it
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    williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 48,116
    Bruno Le Maire calls on people to back Fillon.
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    MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,299
    Charley Hull wins the LPGA Tour Championship - her first win in the US.
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    MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 37,610
    Jonathan said:

    Can I just say The Grand Tour is the dog's dangly bits

    In Ultra-HD, it is just wow.

    I want a drive around the Ebola-dome

    But what about its being too filimic, with too much hubris? ;-)
    I saw that review, I was like, have you not heard of Smart TVs.
    Just because iPlayer doesn't even do proper HD....and us weebles are all forced to watch these streaming services exclusively on our tiny smartphones.
    I read somewhere the BBC have no plans for 4K, big mistake.

    Buying big fuck off TVs, as my friend put it, is one of my indulgences.

    I'd rather wait a few days to watch it on my TV than watch it straight away.
    I'm not sure about the BBC:
    http://advanced-television.com/2016/06/27/bbc-readies-for-uhdhdr-transmissions/

    Though I imagine that bandwidth for 4k on terrestrial transmission would suck up the data available on the multiplexes. I'm also unsure if there have been broadcast standards defined for it yet (though I've been out of that part of the industry for yonks, and I've not been following it).

    No reason they couldn't deliver on iPlayer via cable, though.
    When HD launched in the U.K. the BBC were at the forefront of that.

    Now when 4K came to the U.K. they are well behind Sky, Netflix, Amazon, and BT.
    Tory government cuts licence fee.
    That has become the defence for everything now. The BBC could just sack the whole bloody diversity division and invest in technology. Though I think their biggest problem is that there is no DVB-T standard for 4K. They should begin broadcasting 4K on Sky, iPlayer and Freesat as soon as possible. Even just a BBC 4K channel which only turns on for 4K simulcasts where possible (Planet Earth 2, The Crown when it comes to the BBC in a couple of years).
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    MarkHopkinsMarkHopkins Posts: 5,584

    4K? Huh. That's nothing. My ZX81 had 16K.

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    ydoethur said:

    If you have bets on anyone other than Murray being SPOTY, I rather suspect that you have lost your money.

    Some of us went large on muzza at better than evens...
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    tlg86tlg86 Posts: 25,195

    ydoethur said:

    If you have bets on anyone other than Murray being SPOTY, I rather suspect that you have lost your money.

    Some of us went large on muzza at better than evens...
    I'm still counting the BBC going all PC and doing all they can to get Laura over the line.
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,291
    edited November 2016
    MaxPB said:



    That has become the defence for everything now. The BBC could just sack the whole bloody diversity division and invest in technology. Though I think their biggest problem is that there is no DVB-T standard for 4K. They should begin broadcasting 4K on Sky, iPlayer and Freesat as soon as possible. Even just a BBC 4K channel which only turns on for 4K simulcasts where possible (Planet Earth 2, The Crown when it comes to the BBC in a couple of years).

    The problem is not just the cost of the bloat, it is like turning the titanic. It took them 2 years to decide to get rid of BBC3, then not get rid really and spend money on a new logo.

    £100 million wasted on a digital media system, they kept pumping money into it despite it being a disaster and being told they could just buy this tech off the shelf far far cheaper.

    The relocation to Salford, the running multiple news teams that do the same job, the same for sports reporting (although I have noticed they are getting better at that, making presenters do stuff across multiple channels / stations).

    The likes of Sky will cut a channel in a heartbeat if it isn't working. If you do the presenting on Sky Sports say the cricket, you have to do the promo, the intro, the review show, the Sky Sports News bits, messing with the tech...
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    MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 37,610

    MaxPB said:

    Jonathan said:

    Can I just say The Grand Tour is the dog's dangly bits

    In Ultra-HD, it is just wow.

    I want a drive around the Ebola-dome

    But what about its being too filimic, with too much hubris? ;-)
    I saw that review, I was like, have you not heard of Smart TVs.
    Just because iPlayer doesn't even do proper HD....and us weebles are all forced to watch these streaming services exclusively on our tiny smartphones.
    I read somewhere the BBC have no plans for 4K, big mistake.

    Buying big fuck off TVs, as my friend put it, is one of my indulgences.

    I'd rather wait a few days to watch it on my TV than watch it straight away.
    I'm not sure about the BBC:
    http://advanced-television.com/2016/06/27/bbc-readies-for-uhdhdr-transmissions/

    Though I imagine that bandwidth for 4k on terrestrial transmission would suck up the data available on the multiplexes. I'm also unsure if there have been broadcast standards defined for it yet (though I've been out of that part of the industry for yonks, and I've not been following it).

    No reason they couldn't deliver on iPlayer via cable, though.
    When HD launched in the U.K. the BBC were at the forefront of that.

    Now when 4K came to the U.K. they are well behind Sky, Netflix, Amazon, and BT.
    Tory government cuts licence fee.
    That has become the defence for everything now. The BBC could just sack the whole bloody diversity division and invest in technology. Though I think their biggest problem is that there is no DVB-T standard for 4K. They should begin broadcasting 4K on Sky, iPlayer and Freesat as soon as possible. Even just a BBC 4K channel which only turns on for 4K simulcasts where possible (Planet Earth 2, The Crown when it comes to the BBC in a couple of years).
    The problem is not just the cost of the bloat, it is like turning the titanic. It took them 2 years to decide to get rid of BBC3, then not get rid really and spend money on a new logo.

    £100 million wasted on a digital media system, they kept pumping money into it despite it being a disaster and being told they could just buy this tech off the shelf far far cheaper.

    The likes of Sky will cut a channel in a heartbeat if it isn't working.
    Look at how they rebranded and refocused Sky 3. Absolutely ruthless.
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    tlg86 said:

    ydoethur said:

    If you have bets on anyone other than Murray being SPOTY, I rather suspect that you have lost your money.

    Some of us went large on muzza at better than evens...
    I'm still counting the BBC going all PC and doing all they can to get Laura over the line.
    I'm on team Laura.
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    williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 48,116
    edited November 2016
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    JonathanJonathan Posts: 20,902
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    Am I shallow for wanting Sarkozy to win because that means we'd got more Carla Bruni?
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    williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 48,116
    edited November 2016
    Jonathan said:
    That'll teach me to read the date!

    2012: Sarkozy finishes politics
    2016: Politics finishes Sarkozy
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    williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 48,116

    Am I shallow for wanting Sarkozy to win because that means we'd got more Carla Bruni?

    And to think she gave Trump the brush off. Could have been FLOTUS.
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    MortimerMortimer Posts: 13,951
    Jonathan said:

    Can I just say The Grand Tour is the dog's dangly bits

    In Ultra-HD, it is just wow.

    I want a drive around the Ebola-dome

    But what about its being too filimic, with too much hubris? ;-)
    I saw that review, I was like, have you not heard of Smart TVs.
    Just because iPlayer doesn't even do proper HD....and us weebles are all forced to watch these streaming services exclusively on our tiny smartphones.
    I read somewhere the BBC have no plans for 4K, big mistake.

    Buying big fuck off TVs, as my friend put it, is one of my indulgences.

    I'd rather wait a few days to watch it on my TV than watch it straight away.
    I'm not sure about the BBC:
    http://advanced-television.com/2016/06/27/bbc-readies-for-uhdhdr-transmissions/

    Though I imagine that bandwidth for 4k on terrestrial transmission would suck up the data available on the multiplexes. I'm also unsure if there have been broadcast standards defined for it yet (though I've been out of that part of the industry for yonks, and I've not been following it).

    No reason they couldn't deliver on iPlayer via cable, though.
    When HD launched in the U.K. the BBC were at the forefront of that.

    Now when 4K came to the U.K. they are well behind Sky, Netflix, Amazon, and BT.
    Tory government cuts licence fee.
    Always us nasty Tories, eh?

    Crying Wolf doesn't work any more....

    It is the annual NHS crisis that I feel for this year. Knocked off the front pages by other issues.
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    Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 25,509

    Still buzzing

    Did you see my post from this earlier on this morning about how I met a Spurs legend last night?
    did he give you a smack?
    I got a glare.

    Why would Jamie Redknapp glare at me when I complimented his wife's dance last night by saying to him 'I thought your wife was literally on fire on the dance floor tonight'
    Irritating and all too common misuse of the word 'literally'?
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    MikeKMikeK Posts: 9,053
    Good Evening all. I've been otherwise engaged.

    But funnily I had a bet on Fillon, placed yesterday, so I have a smile on my face.

    Thats to in a row I've won. First trump, now Fillon. Who's next?
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    Still buzzing

    Did you see my post from this earlier on this morning about how I met a Spurs legend last night?
    did he give you a smack?
    I got a glare.

    Why would Jamie Redknapp glare at me when I complimented his wife's dance last night by saying to him 'I thought your wife was literally on fire on the dance floor tonight'
    Irritating and all too common misuse of the word 'literally'?
    http://www.parryphernalia.com/?page_id=1019
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    JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 39,057

    I've worked with some BBC technical bods in the past on projects. They're excellent, and have developed great tech. If they get the managerial backing they can do amazing stuff (or if they skunkworks it).

    Like the £100 million digital media project that they had to abandon after trying to reinvent the wheel when they could have just brought a solution of the shelf?
    I didn't say they were perfect. ;)

    Didn't ?Siemens? (or ?Fujitsu?) also have trouble with the same project? It'd be interesting to read up on exactly went wrong - I'm presuming mismanagement rather than hard technical issues.

    But seriously: the BBC tech bods I've worked with have been excellent.
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,966
    Well well more shit polling.
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    foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    edited November 2016
    MikeK said:

    Good Evening all. I've been otherwise engaged.

    But funnily I had a bet on Fillon, placed yesterday, so I have a smile on my face.

    Thats to in a row I've won. First trump, now Fillon. Who's next?

    It was a good tip. I got on too, despite knowing nothing about him. Only a plastic drinking voucher though.
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    Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 25,509

    Still buzzing

    Did you see my post from this earlier on this morning about how I met a Spurs legend last night?
    did he give you a smack?
    I got a glare.

    Why would Jamie Redknapp glare at me when I complimented his wife's dance last night by saying to him 'I thought your wife was literally on fire on the dance floor tonight'
    Irritating and all too common misuse of the word 'literally'?
    http://www.parryphernalia.com/?page_id=1019
    Haha - what a brilliant website.
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    foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    Pulpstar said:

    Well well more shit polling.

    Shy Fillonistas?
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    SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100

    Pulpstar said:

    Well well more shit polling.

    Shy Fillonistas?
    Momentum probably:

    https://twitter.com/BFMTV/status/800441373476339712

    Actually Fillon is the only one of the top 3 who hasn't been investigated or convicted of fraud.
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    foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548

    Still buzzing

    Did you see my post from this earlier on this morning about how I met a Spurs legend last night?
    did he give you a smack?
    I got a glare.

    Why would Jamie Redknapp glare at me when I complimented his wife's dance last night by saying to him 'I thought your wife was literally on fire on the dance floor tonight'
    Irritating and all too common misuse of the word 'literally'?
    http://www.parryphernalia.com/?page_id=1019
    Haha - what a brilliant website.
    It is literally the dogs bollocks.
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    GeoffMGeoffM Posts: 6,071
    Speedy said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Well well more shit polling.

    Shy Fillonistas?
    Momentum probably:

    twitter.com/BFMTV/status/800441373476339712

    Actually Fillon is the only one of the top 3 who hasn't been investigated or convicted of fraud.
    It's bound to be only a matter of time.

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    MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 37,610

    I've worked with some BBC technical bods in the past on projects. They're excellent, and have developed great tech. If they get the managerial backing they can do amazing stuff (or if they skunkworks it).

    Like the £100 million digital media project that they had to abandon after trying to reinvent the wheel when they could have just brought a solution of the shelf?
    I didn't say they were perfect. ;)

    Didn't ?Siemens? (or ?Fujitsu?) also have trouble with the same project? It'd be interesting to read up on exactly went wrong - I'm presuming mismanagement rather than hard technical issues.

    But seriously: the BBC tech bods I've worked with have been excellent.
    The problem isn't and has never been the tech teams or even the production teams. It's the dead hand of management that chokes everything creative at the BBC. How does HBO produce world class TV on less than half the annual budget? How does Netflix commission the best global shows? How does Amazon TV end up being able to fund tentpoles like TGT?

    They all run a massively tight ship. The BBC could dump all of their daytime shit and just show repeats of older shows instead and invest the savings in top end drama and documentaries like Netflix.
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    Speedy said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Well well more shit polling.

    Shy Fillonistas?
    Momentum probably:

    https://twitter.com/BFMTV/status/800441373476339712

    Actually Fillon is the only one of the top 3 who hasn't been investigated or convicted of fraud.
    Yet?
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    Jonathan said:
    That'll teach me to read the date!

    2012: Sarkozy finishes politics
    2016: Politics finishes Sarkozy
    Lol!
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    SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    GeoffM said:

    Speedy said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Well well more shit polling.

    Shy Fillonistas?
    Momentum probably:

    twitter.com/BFMTV/status/800441373476339712

    Actually Fillon is the only one of the top 3 who hasn't been investigated or convicted of fraud.
    It's bound to be only a matter of time.

    Could be, France hasn't got a President who hasn't troubled the authorities since De Gaulle.

    But it's entirely logical that between a convicted fraudster and a proven failure the French went for the 3rd option.
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    I've worked with some BBC technical bods in the past on projects. They're excellent, and have developed great tech. If they get the managerial backing they can do amazing stuff (or if they skunkworks it).

    Like the £100 million digital media project that they had to abandon after trying to reinvent the wheel when they could have just brought a solution of the shelf?
    I didn't say they were perfect. ;)

    Didn't ?Siemens? (or ?Fujitsu?) also have trouble with the same project? It'd be interesting to read up on exactly went wrong - I'm presuming mismanagement rather than hard technical issues.

    But seriously: the BBC tech bods I've worked with have been excellent.
    PM'ed you.
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    Pulpstar said:

    Well well more shit polling.

    Horses might be the new thing.

    My wife did better on the horses than me at Ascot yesterday, by a country mile. Picked three straight winners in a row, awing some serious punters next to her equipped with the racing post in the process, and won a very tidy chunk that payed for a delicious 3-course Sunday lunch with wine at a gastro pub today.
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    JonathanJonathan Posts: 20,902
    MaxPB said:

    I've worked with some BBC technical bods in the past on projects. They're excellent, and have developed great tech. If they get the managerial backing they can do amazing stuff (or if they skunkworks it).

    Like the £100 million digital media project that they had to abandon after trying to reinvent the wheel when they could have just brought a solution of the shelf?
    I didn't say they were perfect. ;)

    Didn't ?Siemens? (or ?Fujitsu?) also have trouble with the same project? It'd be interesting to read up on exactly went wrong - I'm presuming mismanagement rather than hard technical issues.

    But seriously: the BBC tech bods I've worked with have been excellent.
    The problem isn't and has never been the tech teams or even the production teams. It's the dead hand of management that chokes everything creative at the BBC. How does HBO produce world class TV on less than half the annual budget? How does Netflix commission the best global shows? How does Amazon TV end up being able to fund tentpoles like TGT?

    They all run a massively tight ship. The BBC could dump all of their daytime shit and just show repeats of older shows instead and invest the savings in top end drama and documentaries like Netflix.
    The scope of Netflix, HBO and Amazon video is just different to the BBC. Netflix doesn't run a local radio station in the Western Isles or a Burmese language News operation.
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