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The Lochs (Non Party Independent defence) on Fife
Result of council at last election (2012): Labour 35, Scottish National Party 26, Liberal Democrats 10, Conservatives 3, Independents 3, Non Party Independent 1 (No Overall Control, Labour short by 5)
Result of ward at last election (2012) :
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First like the Tories.
Where has the rumour about Rees-Mogg being tipped as future speaker come from?0 -
This debate is just so much lolz0
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Labour's choice is the devil or the deep blue sea0
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From the Telegraph
The Information Commissioner's Office yesterday said it was probing Virgin Trains's decision to release the CCTV amid claims they may have broken data protection rules.
Anyone want to guess what data protection rules have been broken?0 -
O/T:
Things not going to plan for West Ham in the UEFA league:
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I'd let TSE choose the shoes ....RobD said:
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Sorry I am late to the thread, I was making jam.0
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This is the only by-election in the country? Then at least throw up a surprise, The Lochs.0
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I'd never read the rumour until tonight, but I can see it making some sense. He's been described as the youngest dinosaur in parliament, and after a 'reforming' speaker (part of which may have been good, but part of which involved trying to recruit someone patently unsuitable for the job of Clerk on the basis that they wouldn't agree to split the role) an old fashioned sort might be attractive, he seems reasonably bright and has a sense of humour, and is known to be his own man.MP_SE said:First like the Tories.
Where has the rumour about Rees-Mogg being tipped as future speaker come from?0 -
Following Labour Leadership hustings in Scotland this evening - Lots of 'progressive' types on my Twitter who were very pro-Corbyn are now cross that he's not wanting to talk to the SNP (I'm not sure the SNP wanted to talk to him, to be fair to them).
(Also, Kezia Dugdale was described in glowing terms by Owen Smith and the assembled crowd laughed. Poor Kez. Expect Alex Rowley/Anas Sarwar to start a leadership challenge as soon as the other unseemliness is over).0 -
You might think that, I couldn't possibly comment. ASK ME A QUESTION ON THE NHS DAMN YOU...MarkHopkins said:0 -
About time too, it's no coincidence the quality of speakers has declined in tandem with the dress code.GIN1138 said:
Rees-Mogg would be a fun Speaker. I bet he'd return to the full "regalia" including the Wig and tights, LOL!MP_SE said:First like the Tories.
Where has the rumour about Rees-Mogg being tipped as future speaker come from?
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He's definitely not ram-packed.MarkHopkins said:0 -
Man, 21, who 'battered Muslim preacher to death' is shown performing 'ISIS salute' as he drapes extremists' flag over Rochdale road sign
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3758367/Pictured-Man-21-battered-Muslim-preacher-death-shown-performing-ISIS-salute-drapes-extremists-flag-Rochdale-road-sign-doctored-say-WAR-ZONE.html0 -
I'll leave it to a lawyer, but I'd argue showing Corbyn up as a liar was in the public interest.RobD said:From the Telegraph
The Information Commissioner's Office yesterday said it was probing Virgin Trains's decision to release the CCTV amid claims they may have broken data protection rules.
Anyone want to guess what data protection rules have been broken?0 -
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Boothroyd was great though!dodrade said:
About time too, it's no coincidence the quality of speakers has declined in tandem with the dress code.GIN1138 said:
Rees-Mogg would be a fun Speaker. I bet he'd return to the full "regalia" including the Wig and tights, LOL!MP_SE said:First like the Tories.
Where has the rumour about Rees-Mogg being tipped as future speaker come from?0 -
AND START TALKING ABOUT PARISH COUNCILS!FrancisUrquhart said:
You might think that, I couldn't possibly comment. ASK ME A QUESTION ON THE NHS DAMN YOU...MarkHopkins said:0 -
I know our system has peculiarities, inanities, and is also open to abuse, but stuff like that really makes it seem so stupid at times.Alistair said:So have we done the whole Republicans failed to correctly file paperwork so Trump isn't on the ballot in Minnesota? But now he is due to rule bending/ignoring.
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Have the Lib Dems been doing well at those too? titters...kle4 said:
AND START TALKING ABOUT PARISH COUNCILS!FrancisUrquhart said:
You might think that, I couldn't possibly comment. ASK ME A QUESTION ON THE NHS DAMN YOU...MarkHopkins said:
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There was a previous by election in this ward in May this year . It was an easy Labour hold
Lab 2042 SNP 753 UKIP 162 Con 143
The deceased Independent was the last of the Fife Communists , Willie Clarke although since Party Registration he has stood and been elected as an Independent
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In 2012 Romney failed to qualify for the ballot in Washington and Obama in Texas.kle4 said:
I know our system has peculiarities, inanities, and is also open to abuse, but stuff like that really makes it seem so stupid at times.Alistair said:So have we done the whole Republicans failed to correctly file paperwork so Trump isn't on the ballot in Minnesota? But now he is due to rule bending/ignoring.
The rules where ignored back then.0 -
Only from an identifiable third party. Pics of Corbyn who had already put his side of the story in the public domain is fair game and in the public interest. Train is a private rather than public place.RobD said:From the Telegraph
The Information Commissioner's Office yesterday said it was probing Virgin Trains's decision to release the CCTV amid claims they may have broken data protection rules.
Anyone want to guess what data protection rules have been broken?0 -
Fife Communists ?MarkSenior said:There was a previous by election in this ward in May this year . It was an easy Labour hold
Lab 2042 SNP 753 UKIP 162 Con 143
The deceased Independent was the last of the Fife Communists , Willie Clarke although since Party Registration he has stood and been elected as an Independent0 -
There were many elected in the 1960/1970s in the Fife mining villagesSpeedy said:
Fife Communists ?MarkSenior said:There was a previous by election in this ward in May this year . It was an easy Labour hold
Lab 2042 SNP 753 UKIP 162 Con 143
The deceased Independent was the last of the Fife Communists , Willie Clarke although since Party Registration he has stood and been elected as an Independent0 -
https://twitter.com/joncstone/status/768878114390810629
Another summing up of the performance of the turd sandwich.0 -
They're mostly ex-Goldman bankers with a sense of humour.Speedy said:
Fife Communists ?MarkSenior said:There was a previous by election in this ward in May this year . It was an easy Labour hold
Lab 2042 SNP 753 UKIP 162 Con 143
The deceased Independent was the last of the Fife Communists , Willie Clarke although since Party Registration he has stood and been elected as an Independent0 -
watch bbc two now.0
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I quite like this:
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rather have the epileptic fits then facial disfigurement tbh.0
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West Ham's performance tonight was sub optimal for our coefficient.0
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Racism against hairy people!
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Did West Ham lose.. What larks.tlg86 said:West Ham's performance tonight was sub optimal for our coefficient.
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Well if Trump 'wins' Minnesota then he should already have won the election.kle4 said:
I know our system has peculiarities, inanities, and is also open to abuse, but stuff like that really makes it seem so stupid at times.Alistair said:So have we done the whole Republicans failed to correctly file paperwork so Trump isn't on the ballot in Minnesota? But now he is due to rule bending/ignoring.
Last post on 538 is Clinton +6 in Michigan - again a state that if Trump wins it will nearly be a landslide.0 -
Oh well there's always the PremiershipAndyJS said:O/T:
Things not going to plan for West Ham in the UEFA league:
https://www.betfair.com/exchange/football/event?id=27891816
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Goddammit PB, stop being so you.0
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Virgin will get off on public interest grounds.RobD said:From the Telegraph
The Information Commissioner's Office yesterday said it was probing Virgin Trains's decision to release the CCTV amid claims they may have broken data protection rules.
Anyone want to guess what data protection rules have been broken?0 -
I didn't want to be too obvious nowdugarbandier said:0 -
I dont agree. I think Trump can win without Michigan, but winning Michigan does nto imply a landslide. It will go blue before California and New England.weejonnie said:
Well if Trump 'wins' Minnesota then he should already have won the election.kle4 said:
I know our system has peculiarities, inanities, and is also open to abuse, but stuff like that really makes it seem so stupid at times.Alistair said:So have we done the whole Republicans failed to correctly file paperwork so Trump isn't on the ballot in Minnesota? But now he is due to rule bending/ignoring.
Last post on 538 is Clinton +6 in Michigan - again a state that if Trump wins it will nearly be a landslide.0 -
Corbyn and his bag take up two seats on a Virgin Train, and he can't find his ticket when the inspector comes round:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3758167/Happy-Jeremy-Corbyn-smiles-DEFINITELY-getting-seat-Virgin-train-wake-bitter-row-Sir-Richard-Branson.html0 -
"his bag"...that no way to talk about the wife aka the invisible woman.AndyJS said:Corbyn and his bag take up two seats on a Virgin Train, and he can't find his ticket when the inspector comes round:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3758167/Happy-Jeremy-Corbyn-smiles-DEFINITELY-getting-seat-Virgin-train-wake-bitter-row-Sir-Richard-Branson.html0 -
Anyone got a picture/link to Boris/Vote Leave promising to send the £350m a week to the NHS instead.
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Just watching this awful footage of masked, armed and aggressive people smugglers blocking motorways on Calais. Why the hell are the French not doing anything. If this was happening in Kent they would be tasered, surely?0
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http://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/1/590x/secondary/Boris-Johnson-574738.jpgTheScreamingEagles said:Anyone got a picture/link to Boris/Vote Leave promising to send the £350m a week to the NHS instead.
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The French approach has been the same for years...just hoping it goes away. Ignorant illegal immigrants that they know where they are, they know they are breaking the law etc etc etc & they do nothing.Mortimer said:Just watching this awful footage of masked, armed and aggressive people smugglers blocking motorways on Calais. Why the hell are the French not doing anything. If this was happening in Kent they would be tweeted, surely?
I label all those in the jungle as illegal immigrants because they have repeatedly been offered the opportunity to claim asylum and they reject it.0 -
ThanksSimonStClare said:
http://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/1/590x/secondary/Boris-Johnson-574738.jpgTheScreamingEagles said:Anyone got a picture/link to Boris/Vote Leave promising to send the £350m a week to the NHS instead.
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Disgusting. We should send a strongly worded letter/gunboat...FrancisUrquhart said:
The French approach has been the same for years...just hoping it goes away.Mortimer said:Just watching this awful footage of masked, armed and aggressive people smugglers blocking motorways on Calais. Why the hell are the French not doing anything. If this was happening in Kent they would be tweeted, surely?
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Wel I wish the guardian \ bbc that bang on about mistreatment & appalling conditions in the jungle laid the blame squarely with the individuals & the French government rather than constantly claiming the UK government are a disgrace.Mortimer said:
Disgusting. We should send a strongly worded letter/gunboat...FrancisUrquhart said:
The French approach has been the same for years...just hoping it goes away.Mortimer said:Just watching this awful footage of masked, armed and aggressive people smugglers blocking motorways on Calais. Why the hell are the French not doing anything. If this was happening in Kent they would be tweeted, surely?
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@Mortimer, FrancisUrquat: It's funny isn't it: Switzerland has open borders, zero unemployment, and the world's highest wages.
It also has essentially zero illegal immigration.
Why? Because the incentives have been setup to make being an illegal immigrant extremely unattractive. I particularly like the way that - if you're an illegal, and you shop the guy who's employing you, he goes to prison and you get residency. Brilliant: it basically outsources enforcement to illegal immigrants who are incentivised to report citizen transgressors. And you will go to jail if you employ an illegal immigrant.0 -
It would be a good start. But presumably less satisfying than handwringing...FrancisUrquhart said:
Wel I wish the guardian \ bbc that bang on about mistreatment & appalling conditions in the jungle laid the blame squarely with the individuals & the French government rather than constantly claiming the UK government are a disgrace.Mortimer said:
Disgusting. We should send a strongly worded letter/gunboat...FrancisUrquhart said:
The French approach has been the same for years...just hoping it goes away.Mortimer said:Just watching this awful footage of masked, armed and aggressive people smugglers blocking motorways on Calais. Why the hell are the French not doing anything. If this was happening in Kent they would be tweeted, surely?
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In this country you get a hate campaign against you if you even play ball with the authorities if they find you unwittingly employ illegal immigrants.rcs1000 said:@Mortimer, FrancisUrquat: It's funny isn't it: Switzerland has open borders, zero unemployment, and the world's highest wages.
It also has essentially zero illegal immigration.
Why? Because the incentives have been setup to make being an illegal immigrant extremely unattractive. I particularly like the way that - if you're an illegal, and you shop the guy who's employing you, he goes to prison and you get residency. Brilliant: it basically outsources enforcement to illegal immigrants who are incentivised to report citizen transgressors. And you will go to jail if you employ an illegal immigrant.0 -
Hear, hear.rcs1000 said:@Mortimer, FrancisUrquat: It's funny isn't it: Switzerland has open borders, zero unemployment, and the world's highest wages.
It also has essentially zero illegal immigration.
Why? Because the incentives have been setup to make being an illegal immigrant extremely unattractive. I particularly like the way that - if you're an illegal, and you shop the guy who's employing you, he goes to prison and you get residency. Brilliant: it basically outsources enforcement to illegal immigrants who are incentivised to report citizen transgressors. And you will go to jail if you employ an illegal immigrant.
But I fear changing our rules would still not work whilst the French police basically allow the pas de Calais to be almost lawless come nightfall..0 -
Well quite. It's a French problem in France, not anything to do with the UK other than the disruption caused to the cross-Channel traffic by the inability of the French govt to sort out the problem.FrancisUrquhart said:
Wel I wish the guardian \ bbc that bang on about mistreatment & appalling conditions in the jungle laid the blame squarely with the individuals & the French government rather than constantly claiming the UK government are a disgrace.Mortimer said:
Disgusting. We should send a strongly worded letter/gunboat...FrancisUrquhart said:
The French approach has been the same for years...just hoping it goes away.Mortimer said:Just watching this awful footage of masked, armed and aggressive people smugglers blocking motorways on Calais. Why the hell are the French not doing anything. If this was happening in Kent they would be tweeted, surely?
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Nigel is a tool.0
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Hillary Clinton goes on the attack against Farage who she says 'stoked anti-immigrant sentiments" to win June's Brexit referendum.
"Farage has called for a ban on the children of legal immigrants from public schools and health services," she continued, "has said women are quote 'worth less' than men, and supports scrapping laws that prevent employers from discriminating based on race - that's who Trump wants by his side."
"Farage has appeared regularly on Russian propaganda programmes," she added.
"Now he's standing on the same stage as the Republican nominee."
Farage responds "Mrs Clinton was "running scared".
"Her attacks on me are completely baseless," he said. "She sounds rather like Bob Geldof and can't accept Brexit.
"Perhaps Mrs Clinton should spend more time speaking to normal, working people in her country than trying to attack me using dodgy half-quotes."
http://news.sky.com/story/hillary-clinton-links-donald-trump-with-alt-right-movement-10551709?dcmp=snt-sf-twitter
Looks like someone has hit a nerve
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Watching a hilariously OTT Brit Horror film "Evil Aliens" on Horror Channel
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Switzerland does have a very high rate of legal immigration though, with over twenty % of the population born elsewhere. I think only Australia is higher - and another country that we are encouraged to model our policies on.rcs1000 said:@Mortimer, FrancisUrquat: It's funny isn't it: Switzerland has open borders, zero unemployment, and the world's highest wages.
It also has essentially zero illegal immigration.
Why? Because the incentives have been setup to make being an illegal immigrant extremely unattractive. I particularly like the way that - if you're an illegal, and you shop the guy who's employing you, he goes to prison and you get residency. Brilliant: it basically outsources enforcement to illegal immigrants who are incentivised to report citizen transgressors. And you will go to jail if you employ an illegal immigrant.
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I agree. And you'd struggle to find someone more pro-immigration than me.foxinsoxuk said:
Switzerland does have a very high rate of legal immigration though, with over twenty % of the population born elsewhere. I think only Australia is higher - and another country that we are encouraged to model our policies on.rcs1000 said:@Mortimer, FrancisUrquat: It's funny isn't it: Switzerland has open borders, zero unemployment, and the world's highest wages.
It also has essentially zero illegal immigration.
Why? Because the incentives have been setup to make being an illegal immigrant extremely unattractive. I particularly like the way that - if you're an illegal, and you shop the guy who's employing you, he goes to prison and you get residency. Brilliant: it basically outsources enforcement to illegal immigrants who are incentivised to report citizen transgressors. And you will go to jail if you employ an illegal immigrant.
But I also think that everyone should obey the rules. Respecting the law should be the default option.0 -
Switzerland is a tiddler. The Australian immigration system is like the US medical system - often misunderstood by Brits. The UK has a complex economy. It requires a complex immigration system.foxinsoxuk said:
Switzerland does have a very high rate of legal immigration though, with over twenty % of the population born elsewhere. I think only Australia is higher - and another country that we are encouraged to model our policies on.rcs1000 said:@Mortimer, FrancisUrquat: It's funny isn't it: Switzerland has open borders, zero unemployment, and the world's highest wages.
It also has essentially zero illegal immigration.
Why? Because the incentives have been setup to make being an illegal immigrant extremely unattractive. I particularly like the way that - if you're an illegal, and you shop the guy who's employing you, he goes to prison and you get residency. Brilliant: it basically outsources enforcement to illegal immigrants who are incentivised to report citizen transgressors. And you will go to jail if you employ an illegal immigrant.0 -
Serious Question PBers:
I'm flying to Australia on Saturday morning (and back on Wednesday). I need video game, book, and movie recommendations for the flight.
There are a couple of books about ancient Rome, plus Stephen King's The Green Mile on my list. But I need suggestions, guys.0 -
Mulholland drive ;-)rcs1000 said:Serious Question PBers:
I'm flying to Australia on Saturday morning (and back on Wednesday). I need video game, book, and movie recommendations for the flight.
There are a couple of books about ancient Rome, plus Stephen King's The Green Mile on my list. But I need suggestions, guys.
The Prestige is a very under rated movie imo. It seemed to pass a lot of people by.0 -
"Margaret" is on True Movies 1 (channel 321). It's beautifully cast, although I still think Patricia Hodge should have played Thatcher instead of Lindsay Duncan, and Kevin McNally is brilliant as Ken Clarke...well actually everybody is good in it. It improves with age.Sunil_Prasannan said:Watching a hilariously OTT Brit Horror film "Evil Aliens" on Horror Channel
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Seen Halt and Catch Fire? 3rd season just out..rcs1000 said:Serious Question PBers:
I'm flying to Australia on Saturday morning (and back on Wednesday). I need video game, book, and movie recommendations for the flight.
There are a couple of books about ancient Rome, plus Stephen King's The Green Mile on my list. But I need suggestions, guys.0 -
Films: Deadpool, Zootopia, Mad Max (Sorry, I'm relentlessly low-brow on film). Books, apart from Stiglitz, I'm mostly re-reading classics from my bookshelf - Flashman and the Great Game, Accelerando, Red Storm Rising, Reamde.rcs1000 said:Serious Question PBers:
I'm flying to Australia on Saturday morning (and back on Wednesday). I need video game, book, and movie recommendations for the flight.
There are a couple of books about ancient Rome, plus Stephen King's The Green Mile on my list. But I need suggestions, guys.0 -
Ohh good call...season 2 definitely.Mortimer said:
Seen Halt and Catch Fire? 3rd season just out..rcs1000 said:Serious Question PBers:
I'm flying to Australia on Saturday morning (and back on Wednesday). I need video game, book, and movie recommendations for the flight.
There are a couple of books about ancient Rome, plus Stephen King's The Green Mile on my list. But I need suggestions, guys.0 -
Yes, and I was interested to see that some European politicians have recently been to Nauru to visit the australian facility there:rcs1000 said:
I agree. And you'd struggle to find someone more pro-immigration than me.foxinsoxuk said:
Switzerland does have a very high rate of legal immigration though, with over twenty % of the population born elsewhere. I think only Australia is higher - and another country that we are encouraged to model our policies on.rcs1000 said:@Mortimer, FrancisUrquat: It's funny isn't it: Switzerland has open borders, zero unemployment, and the world's highest wages.
It also has essentially zero illegal immigration.
Why? Because the incentives have been setup to make being an illegal immigrant extremely unattractive. I particularly like the way that - if you're an illegal, and you shop the guy who's employing you, he goes to prison and you get residency. Brilliant: it basically outsources enforcement to illegal immigrants who are incentivised to report citizen transgressors. And you will go to jail if you employ an illegal immigrant.
But I also think that everyone should obey the rules. Respecting the law should be the default option.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/37171750?client=ms-android-hms-tef-gb
There needs to be zero toleration of illegal immigration, and deportation/detention enforcement for overstayers if we want the rules to be obeyed.0 -
Pan's Labyrinth next....viewcode said:
"Margaret" is on True Movies 1 (channel 321). It's beautifully cast, although I still think Patricia Hodge should have played Thatcher instead of Lindsay Duncan, and Kevin McNally is brilliant as Ken Clarke...well actually everybody is good in it. It improves with age.Sunil_Prasannan said:Watching a hilariously OTT Brit Horror film "Evil Aliens" on Horror Channel
Not for the faint hearted0 -
I refer you to the conversation of last week...rcs1000 said:Serious Question PBers:
I'm flying to Australia on Saturday morning (and back on Wednesday). I need video game, book, and movie recommendations for the flight.
There are a couple of books about ancient Rome, plus Stephen King's The Green Mile on my list. But I need suggestions, guys.
Max Hastings: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Max-Hastings/e/B001I9RQMM
Niall Ferguson: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Niall-Ferguson/e/B000APQ8G0
Anthony Beevor: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Antony-Beevor/e/B000APGKKE0 -
Once Upon a Time in America - Sergio Leone crime moviercs1000 said:Serious Question PBers:
I'm flying to Australia on Saturday morning (and back on Wednesday). I need video game, book, and movie recommendations for the flight.
There are a couple of books about ancient Rome, plus Stephen King's The Green Mile on my list. But I need suggestions, guys.
Chinatown - Neo noir mystery movie
LA Confidential - Neo noir crime movie0 -
I said 'nearly' - If California goes red then the USA MSM will go into melt-down. I'll reduce it to "very comfortable win".TheWhiteRabbit said:
I dont agree. I think Trump can win without Michigan, but winning Michigan does nto imply a landslide. It will go blue before California and New England.weejonnie said:
Well if Trump 'wins' Minnesota then he should already have won the election.kle4 said:
I know our system has peculiarities, inanities, and is also open to abuse, but stuff like that really makes it seem so stupid at times.Alistair said:So have we done the whole Republicans failed to correctly file paperwork so Trump isn't on the ballot in Minnesota? But now he is due to rule bending/ignoring.
Last post on 538 is Clinton +6 in Michigan - again a state that if Trump wins it will nearly be a landslide.0 -
I've read most of the things written by those three!viewcode said:
I refer you to the conversation of last week...rcs1000 said:Serious Question PBers:
I'm flying to Australia on Saturday morning (and back on Wednesday). I need video game, book, and movie recommendations for the flight.
There are a couple of books about ancient Rome, plus Stephen King's The Green Mile on my list. But I need suggestions, guys.
Max Hastings: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Max-Hastings/e/B001I9RQMM
Niall Ferguson: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Niall-Ferguson/e/B000APQ8G0
Anthony Beevor: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Antony-Beevor/e/B000APGKKE
Although I've not read Ferguson's Kissinger biography. Thanks.0 -
On immigration:
This week I was interviewing candidates for some of the vacancies in our junior doctor rotations left by Hunt's bodged contract.
There were some good candidates. None were UK or EU graduates, and all were dusky and Muslim. About half were legal to employ as on dependent spouse visas of postgraduate students, the other half will need tier 2 visas to take up their jobs.
It will be interesting to see if the government decides to turn these down to meet its immigration targets.0 -
Thank you. Downloading now.FrancisUrquhart said:
Mulholland drive ;-)rcs1000 said:Serious Question PBers:
I'm flying to Australia on Saturday morning (and back on Wednesday). I need video game, book, and movie recommendations for the flight.
There are a couple of books about ancient Rome, plus Stephen King's The Green Mile on my list. But I need suggestions, guys.
The Prestige is a very under rated movie imo. It seemed to pass a lot of people by.0 -
If we can identify Footballers under the age of 17 due to bone growth, why can't we identify Somalian '13 year olds' who are 6' tall?foxinsoxuk said:
Yes, and I was interested to see that some European politicians have recently been to Nauru to visit the australian facility there:rcs1000 said:
I agree. And you'd struggle to find someone more pro-immigration than me.foxinsoxuk said:
Switzerland does have a very high rate of legal immigration though, with over twenty % of the population born elsewhere. I think only Australia is higher - and another country that we are encouraged to model our policies on.rcs1000 said:@Mortimer, FrancisUrquat: It's funny isn't it: Switzerland has open borders, zero unemployment, and the world's highest wages.
It also has essentially zero illegal immigration.
Why? Because the incentives have been setup to make being an illegal immigrant extremely unattractive. I particularly like the way that - if you're an illegal, and you shop the guy who's employing you, he goes to prison and you get residency. Brilliant: it basically outsources enforcement to illegal immigrants who are incentivised to report citizen transgressors. And you will go to jail if you employ an illegal immigrant.
But I also think that everyone should obey the rules. Respecting the law should be the default option.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/37171750?client=ms-android-hms-tef-gb
There needs to be zero toleration of illegal immigration, and deportation/detention enforcement for overstayers if we want the rules to be obeyed.0 -
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Deadpool is awesome, I've watched it twice already. I've also been forced to watch Zootopia with the children.John_M said:
Films: Deadpool, Zootopia, Mad Max (Sorry, I'm relentlessly low-brow on film). Books, apart from Stiglitz, I'm mostly re-reading classics from my bookshelf - Flashman and the Great Game, Accelerando, Red Storm Rising, Reamde.rcs1000 said:Serious Question PBers:
I'm flying to Australia on Saturday morning (and back on Wednesday). I need video game, book, and movie recommendations for the flight.
There are a couple of books about ancient Rome, plus Stephen King's The Green Mile on my list. But I need suggestions, guys.
Mad Max: an excellent idea.
And I love all the early Tom Clancy's and have read them all.
Question: what was the last decent Clancy? Executive Orders?0 -
I have not. Good idea.Mortimer said:
Seen Halt and Catch Fire? 3rd season just out..rcs1000 said:Serious Question PBers:
I'm flying to Australia on Saturday morning (and back on Wednesday). I need video game, book, and movie recommendations for the flight.
There are a couple of books about ancient Rome, plus Stephen King's The Green Mile on my list. But I need suggestions, guys.0 -
Seconded on The Prestige. One of my favourites. Edge of Tomorrow also springs to mind, very under rated. Tom Cruise and Emily Blunt. Oh, and Sicario, best thriller of 2015 imo.FrancisUrquhart said:
Mulholland drive ;-)rcs1000 said:Serious Question PBers:
I'm flying to Australia on Saturday morning (and back on Wednesday). I need video game, book, and movie recommendations for the flight.
There are a couple of books about ancient Rome, plus Stephen King's The Green Mile on my list. But I need suggestions, guys.
The Prestige is a very under rated movie imo. It seemed to pass a lot of people by.0 -
We actually can't ...they recently found a load of Nigerian footballers were older than they said based on these scans ...now I am sure most of them were, the one problem was they identified one who had been born and lived whole life in US & absolutely no doubt they were the age they claime, but the scan based test said he was much older .weejonnie said:
If we can identify Footballers under the age of 17 due to bone growth, why can't we identify Somalian '13 year olds' who are 6' tall?foxinsoxuk said:
Yes, and I was interested to see that some European politicians have recently been to Nauru to visit the australian facility there:rcs1000 said:
I agree. And you'd struggle to find someone more pro-immigration than me.foxinsoxuk said:
Switzerland does have a very high rate of legal immigration though, with over twenty % of the population born elsewhere. I think only Australia is higher - and another country that we are encouraged to model our policies on.rcs1000 said:@Mortimer, FrancisUrquat: It's funny isn't it: Switzerland has open borders, zero unemployment, and the world's highest wages.
It also has essentially zero illegal immigration.
Why? Because the incentives have been setup to make being an illegal immigrant extremely unattractive. I particularly like the way that - if you're an illegal, and you shop the guy who's employing you, he goes to prison and you get residency. Brilliant: it basically outsources enforcement to illegal immigrants who are incentivised to report citizen transgressors. And you will go to jail if you employ an illegal immigrant.
But I also think that everyone should obey the rules. Respecting the law should be the default option.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/37171750?client=ms-android-hms-tef-gb
There needs to be zero toleration of illegal immigration, and deportation/detention enforcement for overstayers if we want the rules to be obeyed.0 -
Cos that would be racist, innit?weejonnie said:
If we can identify Footballers under the age of 17 due to bone growth, why can't we identify Somalian '13 year olds' who are 6' tall?foxinsoxuk said:
Yes, and I was interested to see that some European politicians have recently been to Nauru to visit the australian facility there:rcs1000 said:
I agree. And you'd struggle to find someone more pro-immigration than me.foxinsoxuk said:
Switzerland does have a very high rate of legal immigration though, with over twenty % of the population born elsewhere. I think only Australia is higher - and another country that we are encouraged to model our policies on.rcs1000 said:@Mortimer, FrancisUrquat: It's funny isn't it: Switzerland has open borders, zero unemployment, and the world's highest wages.
It also has essentially zero illegal immigration.
Why? Because the incentives have been setup to make being an illegal immigrant extremely unattractive. I particularly like the way that - if you're an illegal, and you shop the guy who's employing you, he goes to prison and you get residency. Brilliant: it basically outsources enforcement to illegal immigrants who are incentivised to report citizen transgressors. And you will go to jail if you employ an illegal immigrant.
But I also think that everyone should obey the rules. Respecting the law should be the default option.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/37171750?client=ms-android-hms-tef-gb
There needs to be zero toleration of illegal immigration, and deportation/detention enforcement for overstayers if we want the rules to be obeyed.0 -
All excellent suggestions, albeit things I've seen beforeMP_SE said:
Once Upon a Time in America - Sergio Leone crime moviercs1000 said:Serious Question PBers:
I'm flying to Australia on Saturday morning (and back on Wednesday). I need video game, book, and movie recommendations for the flight.
There are a couple of books about ancient Rome, plus Stephen King's The Green Mile on my list. But I need suggestions, guys.
Chinatown - Neo noir mystery movie
LA Confidential - Neo noir crime movie
(Which tells you our tastes are similar.)0
