The above should indicate a HIllary lead of 4 nationally, but we have polls this week ranging from a Trump lead of 1 to a Hillary lead of 13.
Thankfully my average daily tracking poll is keeping it's head together at a Hillary lead of 5.5% , Trump is going up but very slowly for the past week.
The burkini is offensive as an idea and on the eyes.
Why shouldn't people be allowed to wear what they want?
Sure; ban covering the face in schools, or in banks, or court, etc.
But it's not the job of the government to tell the citizens what they should or should not wear.
Seems to me from what I understand that the Ataturk generally had the right idea (although it was only after revolution 1970s that it was made across genders). No place for this stuff in courts, government, schools, etc, but if you want to do that in your own personal life go ahead.
Seems to have been a very forceful and visionary man, Ataturk, though it seems like Turkey is moving away from that vision all the time.
Chicago university tells generation snowflake to bugger off. Hopefully the Ivy League and California colleges follow suit.
These kids are in for a shock when they get to the real world. The local radio here has been running a story on a survey of graduates entering the job market this Autumn.
Apparently, the biggest factor in deciding where to work is apparently work/life balance, even more so than the salary. For graduate trainee jobs!
If some snowflake asked me that in an interview they'd get a reply along the lines that work and life will be balanced, we won't be asking more than 50% of the hours in a week from them! Before politely placing their CV in the round filing cabinet under the desk.
They also don't seem to understand that the employers choose them, rather than the other way around!
Surely it works both ways for many jobs. If you have a skill that is in demand or show good potential, then it's likely that you'll be able to choose from a number of job offers. I've been in that situation in the past, and I certainly wouldn't have chosen to work for a boss with your attitude!
What in-demand skills does a graduate trainee have?
For someone with genuinely in-demand skills, I agree with you entirely!
You have no right not to be offended; isn't that what we all said when there was the Mohammed cartoons?
Yes indeed. One of the most important rules I think, though it seems increasingly unpopular, to the point even if taking offence is objectively unreasonable or an extreme minority position, the possibility trumps all else.
Even if cultural forces make it a much harder choice to defy certain things, in this country people still have that choice if they really want it, or may want it one day. Taking away their choice, like taking away people's choice to be idiots (and protecting them from the consequences of their own stupidity) would surely be an overreaction. There are good reasons to take away that choice in official public settings, courts etc, but on the beach?
Indeed. This is about banning a tool of oppression.
Since @FeersumEnjineeya is so keen with parallels how would you feel about a gang of men in loinclitgs and shackled walking through the street. Even if they insisted it was free will.
Isn't it a "tool of oppression" for you to determine what women are allow to wear?
On the latter I'm not as familiar as you with the dress code in Soho or some of TSE's parties ....
Chicago university tells generation snowflake to bugger off. Hopefully the Ivy League and California colleges follow suit.
These kids are in for a shock when they get to the real world. The local radio here has been running a story on a survey of graduates entering the job market this Autumn.
Apparently, the biggest factor in deciding where to work is apparently work/life balance, even more so than the salary. For graduate trainee jobs!
If some snowflake asked me that in an interview they'd get a reply along the lines that work and life will be balanced, we won't be asking more than 50% of the hours in a week from them! Before politely placing their CV in the round filing cabinet under the desk.
They also don't seem to understand that the employers choose them, rather than the other way around!
Surely it works both ways for many jobs. If you have a skill that is in demand or show good potential, then it's likely that you'll be able to choose from a number of job offers. I've been in that situation in the past, and I certainly wouldn't have chosen to work for a boss with your attitude!
What in-demand skills does a graduate trainee have?
For someone with genuinely in-demand skills, I agree with you entirely!
creativity, problem-solving, experimentation, out-of-the-box thinking - it goes on. Skills are not the same as experience or knowledge.
Michael Fabricant Meanwhile, I learn from @patrick_kidd that #Corbyn was once the Secretary of the All Party Parliamentary Cheese Group. #respect
That's literally the first thing that makes me warm to Corbyn. Should have been the parliamentary cheese board.
Take away the position of responsibility which grates on him, don't bring up certain triggering topics, and frankly Corbyn's little eccentricities, hobbies and mild manners make it seem like he'd be easy to get on with.
The burkini is offensive as an idea and on the eyes.
Why shouldn't people be allowed to wear what they want?
Sure; ban covering the face in schools, or in banks, or court, etc.
But it's not the job of the government to tell the citizens what they should or should not wear.
Seems to me from what I understand that the Ataturk generally had the right idea (although it was only after revolution 1970s that it was made across genders). No place for this stuff in courts, government, schools, etc, but if you want to do that in your own personal life go ahead.
Seems to have been a very forceful and visionary man, Ataturk, though it seems like Turkey is moving away from that vision all the time.
Ataturk also banned the Fez for the same reason as the hijab, which I believe was itself a replacement for the turban. Goodness knows what he would have made of Madness.
LOL at Labour - G4S will not provide security services at conference.
That leaves a company who will not recognise a union or Momentum Red Guards loooool
"Labour has been left humiliated after being forced to ask a security company it had pledged to boycott to help police its annual conference - only to be rejected."
Jeremy Corbyn for PM @JeremyCorbyn4PM 5m5 minutes ago What’s your reason for backing Jeremy for leader? Share your thoughts and we’ll share your posts.
Chicago university tells generation snowflake to bugger off. Hopefully the Ivy League and California colleges follow suit.
These kids are in for a shock when they get to the real world. The local radio here has been running a story on a survey of graduates entering the job market this Autumn.
Apparently, the biggest factor in deciding where to work is apparently work/life balance, even more so than the salary. For graduate trainee jobs!
If some snowflake asked me that in an interview they'd get a reply along the lines that work and life will be balanced, we won't be asking more than 50% of the hours in a week from them! Before politely placing their CV in the round filing cabinet under the desk.
They also don't seem to understand that the employers choose them, rather than the other way around!
Surely it works both ways for many jobs. If you have a skill that is in demand or show good potential, then it's likely that you'll be able to choose from a number of job offers. I've been in that situation in the past, and I certainly wouldn't have chosen to work for a boss with your attitude!
@ Sandpit Suggest you read Drive by Daniel Pink. In jobs requiring non-routine tasks, such as creativity and problem-solving, companies that give employees autonomy (over hours, tasks, methods and team mates) - which includes setting a good work/life balance - fair far better than those who are controlling, requiring particular hours be kept or too closely monitoring work methods.
Given these are graduates, hopefully they are entering the information economy rather than doing grunt work. If so, they are perhaps onto something that we old codgers have missed - to our own and our companies' detriment.
I'll put it on the reading list, but the original point stands about a bunch of entitled graduates who think the world owes them a living and no-one has ever challenged them in any sphere.
Jeremy Corbyn for PM @JeremyCorbyn4PM 5m5 minutes ago What’s your reason for backing Jeremy for leader? Share your thoughts and we’ll share your posts.
LOL at Labour - G4S will not provide security services at conference.
That leaves a company who will not recognise a union or Momentum Red Guards loooool
"Labour has been left humiliated after being forced to ask a security company it had pledged to boycott to help police its annual conference - only to be rejected."
It leaves the party without a security provider and facing the possibility of cancelling the conference or calling the police in to help at great expense, because of an ongoing row with the only other provider in the running, Showsec.
That's easy then - call in the police to do it at great expense, the coffers must be pretty high with these pay your way leadership contests.
Ellie Mae O'Hagan @MissEllieMae 35m35 minutes ago My prediction is Corbyn will win again with a bigger majority.
As someone who has been phoning around this week on behalf of the Smith campaign this week, that is the one outcome I would definitely rule out. There are just too many switchers from Corbyn in 2015 to conclude otherwise.
LOL at Labour - G4S will not provide security services at conference.
That leaves a company who will not recognise a union or Momentum Red Guards loooool
"Labour has been left humiliated after being forced to ask a security company it had pledged to boycott to help police its annual conference - only to be rejected."
It leaves the party without a security provider and facing the possibility of cancelling the conference or calling the police in to help at great expense, because of an ongoing row with the only other provider in the running, Showsec.
That's easy then - call in the police to do it at great expense, the coffers must be pretty high with these pay your way leadership contests.
For those of you who remember I was a eurosceptic remainer and became a firm Brexiteer at 5.30 am on the Friday after the referendum I have only just realised that my first call for Brexit news is now the Daily Express. How about that then !!
For those of you who remember I was a eurosceptic remainer and became a firm Brexiteer at 5.30 am on the Friday after the referendum I have only just realised that my first call for Brexit news is now the Daily Express. How about that then !!
Oh my God, we have created a monster. In certain cases, it is permitted to read the Mail. The Express? Never.
LOL at Labour - G4S will not provide security services at conference.
That leaves a company who will not recognise a union or Momentum Red Guards loooool
"Labour has been left humiliated after being forced to ask a security company it had pledged to boycott to help police its annual conference - only to be rejected."
It leaves the party without a security provider and facing the possibility of cancelling the conference or calling the police in to help at great expense, because of an ongoing row with the only other provider in the running, Showsec.
That's easy then - call in the police to do it at great expense, the coffers must be pretty high with these pay your way leadership contests.
Merseyside cops have told them No.
Poor form Telegraph not including that detail.
In that case, go ahead with Showsec - I think the party can handle one union, even a big one, causing a stink.
LOL at Labour - G4S will not provide security services at conference.
That leaves a company who will not recognise a union or Momentum Red Guards loooool
"Labour has been left humiliated after being forced to ask a security company it had pledged to boycott to help police its annual conference - only to be rejected."
It leaves the party without a security provider and facing the possibility of cancelling the conference or calling the police in to help at great expense, because of an ongoing row with the only other provider in the running, Showsec.
That's easy then - call in the police to do it at great expense, the coffers must be pretty high with these pay your way leadership contests.
Merseyside cops have told them No.
Poor form Telegraph not including that detail.
In that case, go ahead with Showsec - I think the party can handle one union, even a big one, causing a stink.
It only popped up on Twitter later - see upthread for Elgot tweets
Ellie Mae O'Hagan @MissEllieMae 35m35 minutes ago My prediction is Corbyn will win again with a bigger majority.
As someone who has been phoning around this week on behalf of the Smith campaign this week, that is the one outcome I would definitely rule out. There are just too many switchers from Corbyn in 2015 to conclude otherwise.
For those of you who remember I was a eurosceptic remainer and became a firm Brexiteer at 5.30 am on the Friday after the referendum I have only just realised that my first call for Brexit news is now the Daily Express. How about that then !!
Oh my God, we have created a monster. In certain cases, it is permitted to read the Mail. The Express? Never.
I have always read the mail and have it delivered daily. The mail and I have become somewhat reconciled since the referendum
Chicago university tells generation snowflake to bugger off. Hopefully the Ivy League and California colleges follow suit.
These kids are in for a shock when they get to the real world. The local radio here has been running a story on a survey of graduates entering the job market this Autumn.
Apparently, the biggest factor in deciding where to work is apparently work/life balance, even more so than the salary. For graduate trainee jobs!
If some snowflake asked me that in an interview they'd get a reply along the lines that work and life will be balanced, we won't be asking more than 50% of the hours in a week from them! Before politely placing their CV in the round filing cabinet under the desk.
They also don't seem to understand that the employers choose them, rather than the other way around!
Surely it works both ways for many jobs. If you have a skill that is in demand or show good potential, then it's likely that you'll be able to choose from a number of job offers. I've been in that situation in the past, and I certainly wouldn't have chosen to work for a boss with your attitude!
What in-demand skills does a graduate trainee have?
For someone with genuinely in-demand skills, I agree with you entirely!
creativity, problem-solving, experimentation, out-of-the-box thinking - it goes on. Skills are not the same as experience or knowledge.
I'd consider myself a reasonable manager, interested in development and training of his team, making sure to give praise, take ideas from the team etc.
But if interviewing for a graduate trainee for which I'd received 100 applications, I'd weed out any 21 year old interviewee asking questions like how many hours a week they would be expected to work *as their most important consideration*
Ellie Mae O'Hagan @MissEllieMae 35m35 minutes ago My prediction is Corbyn will win again with a bigger majority.
As someone who has been phoning around this week on behalf of the Smith campaign this week, that is the one outcome I would definitely rule out. There are just too many switchers from Corbyn in 2015 to conclude otherwise.
The only internal info I got was from someone working at Smith's phonebanks in London a month ago, back then they had Corbyn 60, Smith 25.
Since then Smith has had a dire campaign and a series of pretty bad debate performances, so logically that has not shrunk.
For those of you who remember I was a eurosceptic remainer and became a firm Brexiteer at 5.30 am on the Friday after the referendum I have only just realised that my first call for Brexit news is now the Daily Express. How about that then !!
How do you now feel about the "advice" you read which persuaded you to vote for REMAIN? For me it was the threat of interest rate rises that gave me second thoughts prior to voting - but I still voted LEAVE. I now regard Carney as a political tool and not an independent expert.
For those of you who remember I was a eurosceptic remainer and became a firm Brexiteer at 5.30 am on the Friday after the referendum I have only just realised that my first call for Brexit news is now the Daily Express. How about that then !!
Oh my God, we have created a monster. In certain cases, it is permitted to read the Mail. The Express? Never.
I have always read the mail and have it delivered daily. The mail and I have become somewhat reconciled since the referendum
The papers have the thinnest of grasps when it comes to the reality of Brexit. I'd urge you to move on with your life and enjoy North Wales to the fullest. Brexit will chunter on in the background without us peering over its shoulder.
For those of you who remember I was a eurosceptic remainer and became a firm Brexiteer at 5.30 am on the Friday after the referendum I have only just realised that my first call for Brexit news is now the Daily Express. How about that then !!
How do you now feel about the "advice" you read which persuaded you to vote for REMAIN? For me it was the threat of interest rate rises that gave me second thoughts prior to voting - but I still voted LEAVE. I now regard Carney as a political tool and not an independent expert.
Since when are senior civil servants NOT political tools ?
For those of you who remember I was a eurosceptic remainer and became a firm Brexiteer at 5.30 am on the Friday after the referendum I have only just realised that my first call for Brexit news is now the Daily Express. How about that then !!
How do you now feel about the "advice" you read which persuaded you to vote for REMAIN? For me it was the threat of interest rate rises that gave me second thoughts prior to voting - but I still voted LEAVE. I now regard Carney as a political tool and not an independent expert.
An interest rate rise was what I wanted! I spoke to my uncle last night and he's chuffed to buggery. We're leaving the EU and his tracker mortgage has come down 0.25%... not that Mr Meeks would approve!
For those of you who remember I was a eurosceptic remainer and became a firm Brexiteer at 5.30 am on the Friday after the referendum I have only just realised that my first call for Brexit news is now the Daily Express. How about that then !!
How do you now feel about the "advice" you read which persuaded you to vote for REMAIN? For me it was the threat of interest rate rises that gave me second thoughts prior to voting - but I still voted LEAVE. I now regard Carney as a political tool and not an independent expert.
Since when are senior civil servants NOT political tools ?
When they have integrity and respect for their office.
For those of you who remember I was a eurosceptic remainer and became a firm Brexiteer at 5.30 am on the Friday after the referendum I have only just realised that my first call for Brexit news is now the Daily Express. How about that then !!
How do you now feel about the "advice" you read which persuaded you to vote for REMAIN? For me it was the threat of interest rate rises that gave me second thoughts prior to voting - but I still voted LEAVE. I now regard Carney as a political tool and not an independent expert.
Since when are senior civil servants NOT political tools ?
When they have integrity and respect for their office.
Chicago university tells generation snowflake to bugger off. Hopefully the Ivy League and California colleges follow suit.
These kids are in for a shock when they get to the real world. The local radio here has been running a story on a survey of graduates entering the job market this Autumn.
Apparently, the biggest factor in deciding where to work is apparently work/life balance, even more so than the salary. For graduate trainee jobs!
If some snowflake asked me that in an interview they'd get a reply along the lines that work and life will be balanced, we won't be asking more than 50% of the hours in a week from them! Before politely placing their CV in the round filing cabinet under the desk.
They also don't seem to understand that the employers choose them, rather than the other way around!
Surely it works both ways for many jobs. If you have a skill that is in demand or show good potential, then it's likely that you'll be able to choose from a number of job offers. I've been in that situation in the past, and I certainly wouldn't have chosen to work for a boss with your attitude!
@ Sandpit Suggest you read Drive by Daniel Pink. In jobs requiring non-routine tasks, such as creativity and problem-solving, companies that give employees autonomy (over hours, tasks, methods and team mates) - which includes setting a good work/life balance - fair far better than those who are controlling, requiring particular hours be kept or too closely monitoring work methods.
Given these are graduates, hopefully they are entering the information economy rather than doing grunt work. If so, they are perhaps onto something that we old codgers have missed - to our own and our companies' detriment.
I'll put it on the reading list, but the original point stands about a bunch of entitled graduates who think the world owes them a living and no-one has ever challenged them in any sphere.
I once had a guy turn up late for an interview and he cheerfully told me he was sorry " but was sorting out some travel arrangements for a trip with a friend" (said friend worked for my employer)
He then made clear his number one priority was getting business trips.
A new online tool called Back In My Day has launched The site shows how prices have changed over the years across the UK In 1970s London a house cost £4,378, while a litre of fuel came in at 7p
Jeremy Corbyn for PM @JeremyCorbyn4PM 5m5 minutes ago What’s your reason for backing Jeremy for leader? Share your thoughts and we’ll share your posts.
For those of you who remember I was a eurosceptic remainer and became a firm Brexiteer at 5.30 am on the Friday after the referendum I have only just realised that my first call for Brexit news is now the Daily Express. How about that then !!
How do you now feel about the "advice" you read which persuaded you to vote for REMAIN? For me it was the threat of interest rate rises that gave me second thoughts prior to voting - but I still voted LEAVE. I now regard Carney as a political tool and not an independent expert.
Since when are senior civil servants NOT political tools ?
When they have integrity and respect for their office.
So civil servants not doing the bidding of democratically elected politicians is a good thing, except when they're in Brussels?
For those of you who remember I was a eurosceptic remainer and became a firm Brexiteer at 5.30 am on the Friday after the referendum I have only just realised that my first call for Brexit news is now the Daily Express. How about that then !!
How do you now feel about the "advice" you read which persuaded you to vote for REMAIN? For me it was the threat of interest rate rises that gave me second thoughts prior to voting - but I still voted LEAVE. I now regard Carney as a political tool and not an independent expert.
I had hoped that further negotiations would take place and that leaving would be premature. The concern on exchange rates also played a part but with hindsight the drop in sterling's value has positives though it cost me quite a bit more for my holiday in Italy.
We stayed within a few miles of Perugia and this weeks earthquake is tragic and very real to us as we explored those lovely Umbrian hilltop villages just three weeks ago
Ellie Mae O'Hagan @MissEllieMae 35m35 minutes ago My prediction is Corbyn will win again with a bigger majority.
As someone who has been phoning around this week on behalf of the Smith campaign this week, that is the one outcome I would definitely rule out. There are just too many switchers from Corbyn in 2015 to conclude otherwise.
Oh, interesting. Tighter than BF's current 6/1 ?
I don't know how representative my list is, because almost everyone I've spoken to on it seems to have voted also in 2015 so it seems unduly light on new sign ups, but I'm picking up a noticeable trend away from Corbyn when people say how they voted in 2015, with few going the other way, even allowing for a bit of bias in the responses.
There is also a YouGov poll on the Labour leadership in preparation, which if it was not a private poll will be out within the next two days and possibly sooner.
For those of you who remember I was a eurosceptic remainer and became a firm Brexiteer at 5.30 am on the Friday after the referendum I have only just realised that my first call for Brexit news is now the Daily Express. How about that then !!
How do you now feel about the "advice" you read which persuaded you to vote for REMAIN? For me it was the threat of interest rate rises that gave me second thoughts prior to voting - but I still voted LEAVE. I now regard Carney as a political tool and not an independent expert.
Since when are senior civil servants NOT political tools ?
When they have integrity and respect for their office.
So civil servants not doing the bidding of democratically elected politicians is a good thing, except when they're in Brussels?
Carney holds an office where he should be the "independent Governor of the Bank of England". He is not a civil servant to be told what to do by the Chancellor. He has a few targets that we know such as the 2% inflation target - and he then has to explain if/when that target is exceeded by a set margin.
Ellie Mae O'Hagan @MissEllieMae 35m35 minutes ago My prediction is Corbyn will win again with a bigger majority.
As someone who has been phoning around this week on behalf of the Smith campaign this week, that is the one outcome I would definitely rule out. There are just too many switchers from Corbyn in 2015 to conclude otherwise.
The only internal info I got was from someone working at Smith's phonebanks in London a month ago, back then they had Corbyn 60, Smith 25.
Since then Smith has had a dire campaign and a series of pretty bad debate performances, so logically that has not shrunk.
For those of you who remember I was a eurosceptic remainer and became a firm Brexiteer at 5.30 am on the Friday after the referendum I have only just realised that my first call for Brexit news is now the Daily Express. How about that then !!
Oh my God, we have created a monster. In certain cases, it is permitted to read the Mail. The Express? Never.
I have always read the mail and have it delivered daily. The mail and I have become somewhat reconciled since the referendum
The papers have the thinnest of grasps when it comes to the reality of Brexit. I'd urge you to move on with your life and enjoy North Wales to the fullest. Brexit will chunter on in the background without us peering over its shoulder.
We have enjoyed North Wales for over 50 years and my great grandparents were born not far from us. Driving into Llandudno today was just as fabulous as anywhere with it's two Ormes and Victorian Seafront Hotels. I urge anyone who has not visited Llandudno to treat yourself to experiencing the joy of a lovely Holiday Town with the Mountains of Snowdonia only half an hour away.
As for Brexit it will happen in some form and remainer's need to accept the vote
A new online tool called Back In My Day has launched The site shows how prices have changed over the years across the UK In 1970s London a house cost £4,378, while a litre of fuel came in at 7p
In 1970s London surely there was an awful lot of inflation about. What I find most disconcerting about watching The Sweeney is not the boozing or violence, or the casual sexism and occasional racism, it is that no-one wears a seatbelt.
For those of you who remember I was a eurosceptic remainer and became a firm Brexiteer at 5.30 am on the Friday after the referendum I have only just realised that my first call for Brexit news is now the Daily Express. How about that then !!
Oh my God, we have created a monster. In certain cases, it is permitted to read the Mail. The Express? Never.
I have always read the mail and have it delivered daily. The mail and I have become somewhat reconciled since the referendum
The papers have the thinnest of grasps when it comes to the reality of Brexit. I'd urge you to move on with your life and enjoy North Wales to the fullest. Brexit will chunter on in the background without us peering over its shoulder.
We have enjoyed North Wales for over 50 years and my great grandparents were born not far from us. Driving into Llandudno today was just as fabulous as anywhere with it's two Ormes and Victorian Seafront Hotels. I urge anyone who has not visited Llandudno to treat yourself to experiencing the joy of a lovely Holiday Town with the Mountains of Snowdonia only half an hour away.
As for Brexit it will happen in some form and remainer's need to accept the vote
Jeremy Corbyn for PM @JeremyCorbyn4PM 5m5 minutes ago What’s your reason for backing Jeremy for leader? Share your thoughts and we’ll share your posts.
Oh, don't tempt me...
His great media management team?
The only reason for backing Corbyn is that Smith has shown himself to be even worse, And vice versa.
For those of you who remember I was a eurosceptic remainer and became a firm Brexiteer at 5.30 am on the Friday after the referendum I have only just realised that my first call for Brexit news is now the Daily Express. How about that then !!
How do you now feel about the "advice" you read which persuaded you to vote for REMAIN? For me it was the threat of interest rate rises that gave me second thoughts prior to voting - but I still voted LEAVE. I now regard Carney as a political tool and not an independent expert.
An interest rate rise was what I wanted! I spoke to my uncle last night and he's chuffed to buggery. We're leaving the EU and his tracker mortgage has come down 0.25%... not that Mr Meeks would approve!
Yes George Osborne promised ( actually he was threatening - how I laughed at that "threat") me the Pound would drop ( it has a bit - great), and interest rates would rise. I'm still waiting for the second bit given Carney's taken leave of his senses and cut them. Half a loaf.
Leicester and Spurs have lucked in with the Champions League draw.
Winning the League helps get into pot a.
Arsenal should try it sometime ;-)
Ouch! Actually we did quite well too. Off to Porto, Brugge and wonderful, wonderful Copenhagen?
I shall see what I can do. Fox jr is keen to go to Europe. The Copenhagen home game kicks off 4 hours after I land at Stanstead from a trip. Could be a bit tight.
The others suit my rota well, I don't know how easy away tickets will be to acquire.
For those of you who remember I was a eurosceptic remainer and became a firm Brexiteer at 5.30 am on the Friday after the referendum I have only just realised that my first call for Brexit news is now the Daily Express. How about that then !!
Oh my God, we have created a monster. In certain cases, it is permitted to read the Mail. The Express? Never.
I have always read the mail and have it delivered daily. The mail and I have become somewhat reconciled since the referendum
The papers have the thinnest of grasps when it comes to the reality of Brexit. I'd urge you to move on with your life and enjoy North Wales to the fullest. Brexit will chunter on in the background without us peering over its shoulder.
We have enjoyed North Wales for over 50 years and my great grandparents were born not far from us. Driving into Llandudno today was just as fabulous as anywhere with it's two Ormes and Victorian Seafront Hotels. I urge anyone who has not visited Llandudno to treat yourself to experiencing the joy of a lovely Holiday Town with the Mountains of Snowdonia only half an hour away.
As for Brexit it will happen in some form and remainer's need to accept the vote
Leicester and Spurs have lucked in with the Champions League draw.
Winning the League helps get into pot a.
Arsenal should try it sometime ;-)
Ouch! Actually we did quite well too. Off to Porto, Brugge and wonderful, wonderful Copenhagen?
I shall see what I can do. Fox jr is keen to go to Europe. The Copenhagen home game kicks off 4 hours after I land at Stanstead from a trip. Could be a bit tight.
The others suit my rota well, I don't know how easy away tickets will be to acquire.
Good luck with getting tickets, Leicester certainly deserve it. As a Liverpool fan, I'd confidently say that nothing beats the atmosphere of a European night's football, although sadly my team have been crap at qualifying recently and I've been abroad too much to attend.
Leicester and Spurs have lucked in with the Champions League draw.
Winning the League helps get into pot a.
Arsenal should try it sometime ;-)
Ouch! Actually we did quite well too. Off to Porto, Brugge and wonderful, wonderful Copenhagen?
I shall see what I can do. Fox jr is keen to go to Europe. The Copenhagen home game kicks off 4 hours after I land at Stanstead from a trip. Could be a bit tight.
The others suit my rota well, I don't know how easy away tickets will be to acquire.
Why font you just change your return and go via Copenhagen instead? Assuming it's low cost airline given stansted the write off shouldn't be too bad?
Aren't they supposed to all be good little Europeans? That nice Mr Drunker said the other day that borders are bad and immigration is good.
Don't know how his Luxembourg would've set up all those nice advantageous banking and tax arrangements, that had his French and German neighbours hot footing it over the err border with all that lovely lolly to enrich said pumpernickel principality without there having been a set of international frontiers extant? Or am I missing something?
Douglas Carswell has been trolled heavily by Kippers today after mocking Farage for meeting Trump. If UKIP is to have a future it will rely on there being a soft BREXIT which will allow it to campaign on a firm 'end all free movement, leave the single market' ticket, there is no future for Carswell's brand of libertarian, relaxed about immigration politics in UKIP, unless he forms a new Libertarian Party (perhaps with Hannan) the most likely outcome is for Carswell to rejoin the Tories, especially now the UK is leaving the EU and the leadership is Cameron free
A new online tool called Back In My Day has launched The site shows how prices have changed over the years across the UK In 1970s London a house cost £4,378, while a litre of fuel came in at 7p
Interesting new data today showing Poland has overtaken India as the most common non-UK nation of birth for people living in Britain. Overall 13% of the population is now foreign born, rising to 37% in London.
A new online tool called Back In My Day has launched The site shows how prices have changed over the years across the UK In 1970s London a house cost £4,378, while a litre of fuel came in at 7p
No doubt even then people complained how high the prices were * cries*.
Question is what have been the qualitative gains. A "£20k" ( at 2016 prices) in the 1940's was a Morris Minor it's now something like a Focus or a Golf.
A new online tool called Back In My Day has launched The site shows how prices have changed over the years across the UK In 1970s London a house cost £4,378, while a litre of fuel came in at 7p
In 1970s London surely there was an awful lot of inflation about. What I find most disconcerting about watching The Sweeney is not the boozing or violence, or the casual sexism and occasional racism, it is that no-one wears a seatbelt.
After a crash, the last place you wanted to be in a 60/70s car was inside it. Seat belt legislation failed in the HoP three times because of that.
LOL at Labour - G4S will not provide security services at conference.
That leaves a company who will not recognise a union or Momentum Red Guards loooool
"Labour has been left humiliated after being forced to ask a security company it had pledged to boycott to help police its annual conference - only to be rejected."
It leaves the party without a security provider and facing the possibility of cancelling the conference or calling the police in to help at great expense, because of an ongoing row with the only other provider in the running, Showsec.
That's easy then - call in the police to do it at great expense, the coffers must be pretty high with these pay your way leadership contests.
Merseyside cops have told them No.
Poor form Telegraph not including that detail.
In that case, go ahead with Showsec - I think the party can handle one union, even a big one, causing a stink.
This is the Labour Party conference we are talking about. All a union has to do to stop it is start a picket line at every entrance.
A new online tool called Back In My Day has launched The site shows how prices have changed over the years across the UK In 1970s London a house cost £4,378, while a litre of fuel came in at 7p
No doubt even then people complained how high the prices were * cries*.
It was a popular folk theory at the time that inflation was caused by decimalisation, which meant people no longer understood how much they were being charged.
A new online tool called Back In My Day has launched The site shows how prices have changed over the years across the UK In 1970s London a house cost £4,378, while a litre of fuel came in at 7p
A new online tool called Back In My Day has launched The site shows how prices have changed over the years across the UK In 1970s London a house cost £4,378, while a litre of fuel came in at 7p
No doubt even then people complained how high the prices were * cries*.
Inflation was 24.5% in 1975. What a time to be alive! This was the boomers secret weapon for home ownership. Buy a house with a colossal mortage, eat cat food three times a week for a year, then pay off the mortgage with your latest pay cheque. I exaggerate slightly, for effect.
A new online tool called Back In My Day has launched The site shows how prices have changed over the years across the UK In 1970s London a house cost £4,378, while a litre of fuel came in at 7p
No doubt even then people complained how high the prices were * cries*.
It was a popular folk theory at the time that inflation was caused by decimalisation, which meant people no longer understood how much they were being charged.
My dad says that the day before the change a cup of tea in the cafe near his work cost 3 old pence. After the change a cup of tea cost 3 new pence.
A new online tool called Back In My Day has launched The site shows how prices have changed over the years across the UK In 1970s London a house cost £4,378, while a litre of fuel came in at 7p
No doubt even then people complained how high the prices were * cries*.
It was a popular folk theory at the time that inflation was caused by decimalisation, which meant people no longer understood how much they were being charged.
Decriminalization if what? I wonder what we will look back on now and say that was just a myth.
A new online tool called Back In My Day has launched The site shows how prices have changed over the years across the UK In 1970s London a house cost £4,378, while a litre of fuel came in at 7p
No doubt even then people complained how high the prices were * cries*.
That site is not producing results that bear any resemblance to the reality that I remember. For example it says that in 1971 the average cost of a house in London was £4,741. I fact in the early seventies property boom a very average 3 bedroom terrace by Wandsworth Town Station (not in any way a select area then) would change hands for £17-19,000.
God knows where they are getting their numbers from.
A new online tool called Back In My Day has launched The site shows how prices have changed over the years across the UK In 1970s London a house cost £4,378, while a litre of fuel came in at 7p
No doubt even then people complained how high the prices were * cries*.
It was a popular folk theory at the time that inflation was caused by decimalisation, which meant people no longer understood how much they were being charged.
Decriminalization if what? I wonder what we will look back on now and say that was just a myth.
For those of you who remember I was a eurosceptic remainer and became a firm Brexiteer at 5.30 am on the Friday after the referendum I have only just realised that my first call for Brexit news is now the Daily Express. How about that then !!
Oh my God, we have created a monster. In certain cases, it is permitted to read the Mail. The Express? Never.
I have always read the mail and have it delivered daily. The mail and I have become somewhat reconciled since the referendum
The papers have the thinnest of grasps when it comes to the reality of Brexit. I'd urge you to move on with your life and enjoy North Wales to the fullest. Brexit will chunter on in the background without us peering over its shoulder.
We have enjoyed North Wales for over 50 years and my great grandparents were born not far from us. Driving into Llandudno today was just as fabulous as anywhere with it's two Ormes and Victorian Seafront Hotels. I urge anyone who has not visited Llandudno to treat yourself to experiencing the joy of a lovely Holiday Town with the Mountains of Snowdonia only half an hour away.
As for Brexit it will happen in some form and remainer's need to accept the vote
I want to do the Great Orme Tramway.
I was in Llandudno two weeks ago. It might be my favourite coastal town in the UK. Absolutely lovely.
A new online tool called Back In My Day has launched The site shows how prices have changed over the years across the UK In 1970s London a house cost £4,378, while a litre of fuel came in at 7p
No doubt even then people complained how high the prices were * cries*.
It was a popular folk theory at the time that inflation was caused by decimalisation, which meant people no longer understood how much they were being charged.
Decriminalization if what? I wonder what we will look back on now and say that was just a myth.
Decimalisation: we switched from pounds, shillings and pence to decimal money. I blame the Common Market.
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The above should indicate a HIllary lead of 4 nationally, but we have polls this week ranging from a Trump lead of 1 to a Hillary lead of 13.
Thankfully my average daily tracking poll is keeping it's head together at a Hillary lead of 5.5% , Trump is going up but very slowly for the past week.
Seven people died laughing, and the tape has been banned in every country except North Korea, who use it to torture dissidents.
For someone with genuinely in-demand skills, I agree with you entirely!
Edited extra bit: besides, morris dancers are renowned for our svelte figures.
Even if cultural forces make it a much harder choice to defy certain things, in this country people still have that choice if they really want it, or may want it one day. Taking away their choice, like taking away people's choice to be idiots (and protecting them from the consequences of their own stupidity) would surely be an overreaction. There are good reasons to take away that choice in official public settings, courts etc, but on the beach?
My prediction is Corbyn will win again with a bigger majority.
Except when I do it. )
These oriental gyrations cannot match the virtuous glory of the morris dance!
https://www.quora.com/Turkey-country-Is-it-true-that-people-were-executed-purely-for-wearing-a-fez
That leaves a company who will not recognise a union or Momentum Red Guards loooool
Anyway, I'm off.
Heart of stone etc
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/08/25/labour-left-humiliated-after-g4s-turns-down-last-ditch-plea-to-p/
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Oh, don't tempt me...
Total equality? Apart from the poor english - so everyone would be equal? How exactly is this to be engineered?
Corbyn will be somewhere in the 60's.
Because Owen Smith is a turd sandwich.
Arsenal should try it sometime ;-)
That's easy then - call in the police to do it at great expense, the coffers must be pretty high with these pay your way leadership contests.
I approve and will vote accordingly.
In that case, go ahead with Showsec - I think the party can handle one union, even a big one, causing a stink.
But if interviewing for a graduate trainee for which I'd received 100 applications, I'd weed out any 21 year old interviewee asking questions like how many hours a week they would be expected to work *as their most important consideration*
Since then Smith has had a dire campaign and a series of pretty bad debate performances, so logically that has not shrunk.
For me it was the threat of interest rate rises that gave me second thoughts prior to voting - but I still voted LEAVE. I now regard Carney as a political tool and not an independent expert.
He then made clear his number one priority was getting business trips.
He didn't get the job.
A new online tool called Back In My Day has launched
The site shows how prices have changed over the years across the UK
In 1970s London a house cost £4,378, while a litre of fuel came in at 7p
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3755339/How-did-things-cost-young.html
We stayed within a few miles of Perugia and this weeks earthquake is tragic and very real to us as we explored those lovely Umbrian hilltop villages just three weeks ago
There is also a YouGov poll on the Labour leadership in preparation, which if it was not a private poll will be out within the next two days and possibly sooner.
As for Brexit it will happen in some form and remainer's need to accept the vote
Owen Smith: "Jeremy Corbyn called a Conservative Party MP a lunatic in 1992." Corbyn: "I'd rather we got on with discussing politics."
Europeans are divided on what determines national identity https://t.co/hts1DKJhCf https://t.co/paOZm3qwUd
Still voted out. Still glad I did.
The others suit my rota well, I don't know how easy away tickets will be to acquire.
There is also a strong correlation between areas with an above average population of foreign born and those which voted Remain in EUref and areas with a below average population of foreign born and those which voted Leave. Westminster is 50% foreign born for example, Islington 37%, Runneymede 18% and Manchester 26%. Merthyr Tydfil by contrast is just 5% foreign born, Sunderland 5%, Nuneaton 7% and Havering 11%
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37183733
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/populationandmigration/internationalmigration/bulletins/ukpopulationbycountryofbirthandnationality/august2016
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/jeremy-corbyn-snubbed-by-mps-in-poll-to-find-most-impressive-politician-a3329361.html
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God knows where they are getting their numbers from.