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When Farage quit the UKIP leadership many were speculating that this was not the last we would see him flying the UKIP flag and there’ve been hints that this is the case.
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In an interview on Russia Today suggested that he in fact might return as UKIP leader if Brexit is not delivered as he would like.
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The cult (sic) of Farage
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UKIP MEP Jonathan Arnott says he is withdrawing from the race to be the party's next leader because the best he could hope for would be second place.
Mr Arnott, who represents the North East of England, said there was "no prize for a silver medal".
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37084410
I hate to kick a man when he's down, but there is a prize for silver medal, it's the medal0 -
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Hardly a firstTheScreamingEagles said:The
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And is Farage growing a porn star 'tasche?0
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What is it about right wing populists and Russia?
"In an interview on Russia Today suggested that he in fact might return as UKIP leader"0 -
I think it is the repressed latent homosexuality that attracts them to Putin.logical_song said:What is it about right wing populists and Russia?
"In an interview on Russia Today suggested that he in fact might return as UKIP leader"
I mean, when he rides bare chested on that horse, you can't help but swoon.0 -
Nige probably does need to come back. Though with Woolfe's electoral law transgression and the rather obvious trick of getting himself ruled out on a technicality because he doesn't REALLY want the job then there looks to be no future beyond Nigel. And that is a massive problem for UKIP.0
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That tie is a breach of the Geneva Convention.0
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fpt @ taffy
Presumably the latter [better battery storage] brings solar more into the energy mix. But there is still the issue of efficient transport of solar - the best sources are not particularly close to the bigger conurbations.
In the US, Musk, through Solar City, is trying to really push the house-top solar market.0 -
Ok, I'll have to take your word for it.TheScreamingEagles said:
I think it is the repressed latent homosexuality that attracts them to Putin.logical_song said:What is it about right wing populists and Russia?
"In an interview on Russia Today suggested that he in fact might return as UKIP leader"
I mean, when he rides bare chested on that horse, you can't help but swoon.
By the way, it took me some minutes flicking through channels on an hotel TV before I realised that there was something oddly biased about the news channel with a discreet 'RT' in the corner.0 -
Being the leader of UKIP is very much like making love to a beautiful woman0
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Wouldn't a fourth spell as leader mean a third return to the post?0
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"In an interview on Russia Today"
Maybe the moustache is an attempt to go for a full 'Stalin'.0 -
I am bored of Farage. Why can't he just retire and let someone else do crazy.0
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The fourth return was when he came back to Earth in the first place.david_herdson said:Wouldn't a fourth spell as leader mean a third return to the post?
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I thought that tache was a photoshop job, but he's really grown one. That is superb!!0
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Are you a new ball or second new ball person?david_herdson said:Wouldn't a fourth spell as leader mean a third return to the post?
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It's always been "The new ball". The first has become the old ball!tlg86 said:
Are you a new ball or second new ball person?david_herdson said:Wouldn't a fourth spell as leader mean a third return to the post?
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I think Nigel’s tash looks rather smart and distinguished, in a Roderick Spode kinda of way…0
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I hope it gets a bit bushier. A sort of WW1 army officer's job would suit Farage quite well methinks.SouthamObserver said:I thought that tache was a photoshop job, but he's really grown one. That is superb!!
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Hasn't labour taken on that role en-masse?Jonathan said:I am bored of Farage. Why can't he just retire and let someone else do crazy.
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But the old ball was the new ball at the start of the innings.Sandpit said:
It's always been "The new ball". The first has become the old ball!tlg86 said:
Are you a new ball or second new ball person?david_herdson said:Wouldn't a fourth spell as leader mean a third return to the post?
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He's clearly going for this look:Patrick said:
I hope it gets a bit bushier. A sort of WW1 army officer's job would suit Farage quite well methinks.SouthamObserver said:I thought that tache was a photoshop job, but he's really grown one. That is superb!!
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I was hoping for more of a General Melchett!williamglenn said:
He's clearly going for this look:Patrick said:
I hope it gets a bit bushier. A sort of WW1 army officer's job would suit Farage quite well methinks.SouthamObserver said:I thought that tache was a photoshop job, but he's really grown one. That is superb!!
Mandelbum's tache is thin and wispy and a bit gay if you ask me.0 -
Martin Baxter: A Labour split helps no-one except the Tories
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/08/15/the-numbers-dont-lie-splitting-would-be-catastrophic-for-labour/
"In almost all the scenarios, the combined Labour parties win fewer seats than they did at the last general election. Only if overall Labour support increases by 20 per cent do they even equal their 2015 performance. And in all cases, the Conservatives remain the largest party in parliament and are almost certainly in government."0 -
Writing for the Huffington Post, Robert Kuttner believes that Republican officials have kept leaking the idea that DonaldTrump will quit, and that the most likely replacement is Paul Ryan. He may have a point: Ryan's "A Better Way" could be refashioned quite quickly into a presidential campaign platform.
Unfortunately he doesn't discuss the other possible replacements, simply saying that "The also-rans in the Republican primaries are all too bloodied and blemished" and that "Ryan stayed above the fray". Is he Ryan's agent or what? Unlike John Kasich and Ted Cruz, Ryan has endorsed Trump. I don't think that rules him out, but still.
If Trump is going to quit, then the later he does it the more likely it is that his replacement will be Mike Pence. Problems that a replacement will experience in "getting on to the ballots" have been exaggerated.
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Yes, but you can get a third (or second) new ball.Sandpit said:
It's always been "The new ball". The first has become the old ball!tlg86 said:
Are you a new ball or second new ball person?david_herdson said:Wouldn't a fourth spell as leader mean a third return to the post?
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I thought JackW's ARSE was Britain's leading site (heh) for the scientific prediction of election results.Sandpit said:Martin Baxter: A Labour split helps no-one except the Tories
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/08/15/the-numbers-dont-lie-splitting-would-be-catastrophic-for-labour/
"In almost all the scenarios, the combined Labour parties win fewer seats than they did at the last general election. Only if overall Labour support increases by 20 per cent do they even equal their 2015 performance. And in all cases, the Conservatives remain the largest party in parliament and are almost certainly in government." 0 -
Whether the numbers on that are correct or not, it is why no large split will happen, and probably not even a small split. Ridiculous as it may be to pretend they are all of the same mind and direction, and far beyond any talk of broad churches, the one thing they all do seem committed on is Tories are the enemy still, and any split will be seen as helping the Tories.Sandpit said:Martin Baxter: A Labour split helps no-one except the Tories
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/08/15/the-numbers-dont-lie-splitting-would-be-catastrophic-for-labour/
"In almost all the scenarios, the combined Labour parties win fewer seats than they did at the last general election. Only if overall Labour support increases by 20 per cent do they even equal their 2015 performance. And in all cases, the Conservatives remain the largest party in parliament and are almost certainly in government."
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What's the transmission grid in the US like? Is it managed at the state or federal level?MTimT said:fpt @ taffy
Presumably the latter [better battery storage] brings solar more into the energy mix. But there is still the issue of efficient transport of solar - the best sources are not particularly close to the bigger conurbations.
In the US, Musk, through Solar City, is trying to really push the house-top solar market.
I find it slightly funny that in UK from the 1930s-1950s we moved from small-scale local power generation, with a power station in most towns, often in the centre - to massive power stations outside towns with a countrywide transmission grid.
Yet we're now moving back to small-scale generation, often local in scope. How the grid will cope is another matter.
(On a side-issue, Musk's SpaceX made another launch yesterday, and another successful landing, even though it was a high-orbit launch that made the landing much more difficult. I think that's five out of the last six launches with a successful landing).0 -
Just taken Shadsy's Evens on the Trump winning 21-30 states. DYOR, but I think it's a goody.0
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It's something most people can only watch rather than achieve in the flesh?MontyHall said:Being the leader of UKIP is very much like making love to a beautiful woman
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Exactly. But it's a third new ball at 160 overs.Sandpit said:
It's always been "The new ball". The first has become the old ball!tlg86 said:
Are you a new ball or second new ball person?david_herdson said:Wouldn't a fourth spell as leader mean a third return to the post?
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10-11 now. Nevertheless £22 on.Richard_Nabavi said:Just taken Shadsy's Evens on the Trump winning 21-30 states. DYOR, but I think it's a goody.
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It's often over before it starts?david_herdson said:
It's something most people can only watch rather than achieve in the flesh?MontyHall said:Being the leader of UKIP is very much like making love to a beautiful woman
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Nige gets free time on Russia Today because anyone who opposes the EU is Putin's friend.
Anyone who calls himself a patriot would not appear on the propaganda channel.0 -
Yes, I'm on at this price too. Good bet even if the odds are a mite skinny.Pulpstar said:
10-11 now. Nevertheless £22 on.Richard_Nabavi said:Just taken Shadsy's Evens on the Trump winning 21-30 states. DYOR, but I think it's a goody.
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This is basically Trump holding Indiana through to gaining Nevada (Not Wisconsin). 4-5 now.Richard_Nabavi said:Just taken Shadsy's Evens on the Trump winning 21-30 states. DYOR, but I think it's a goody.
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There was a pundit on the telly the other day with the best evvah porn name.TheScreamingEagles said:And is Farage growing a porn star 'tasche?
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@Shadsy has realised his generousity methinks.peter_from_putney said:
Yes, I'm on at this price too. Good bet even if the odds are a mite skinny.Pulpstar said:
10-11 now. Nevertheless £22 on.Richard_Nabavi said:Just taken Shadsy's Evens on the Trump winning 21-30 states. DYOR, but I think it's a goody.
Into 4-5 now. Will probably end up 4-7 or so.0 -
Some words I hope to see added to the tabloid Brexicon..
Brexaggeration
Brexcrement
Brexclusive
Brexcitement
Brexhaustion
Brexhibition
Brexhilarating
Brexpansion
Brexpense account
Brexpiry date
Brexecution
Brexcellent
Brexchange rate
Brexpectations
Brexpeditionary force
Brexperience
Brexpert
Brextraordinay
Brextremist
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Brexcruciating?JonnyJimmy said:Some words I hope to see added to the tabloid Brexicon..
Brexaggeration
Brexcrement
Brexclusive
Brexcitement
Brexhaustion
Brexhibition
Brexhilarating
Brexpansion
Brexpense account
Brexpiry date
Brexecution
Brexcellent
Brexchange rate
Brexpectations
Brexpeditionary force
Brexperience
Brexpert
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What's the BBC?perdix said:Nige gets free time on Russia Today because anyone who opposes the EU is Putin's friend.
Anyone who calls himself a patriot would not appear on the propaganda channel.
Irregular verb:
* They "spread propaganda"
* We "only ever tell the world the facts"
I'm quite sure Nigel Farage "calls himself a patriot", as doubtless does Garry Kasparov when he appears on the BBC.0 -
Now *that* one I could call the second *new* ball!david_herdson said:
Exactly. But it's a third new ball at 160 overs.Sandpit said:
It's always been "The new ball". The first has become the old ball!tlg86 said:
Are you a new ball or second new ball person?david_herdson said:Wouldn't a fourth spell as leader mean a third return to the post?
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Can you, or anyone else, give us a quick briefing on the ballot paper issue? There presumably is a moment afterwhich getting onto the ballots in key states is impossible. When is it?Dromedary said:
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There are three major grids in the US (all privately owned and managed I believe): one each West and East of the Rockies and a third for Texas, because Texas.JosiasJessop said:
What's the transmission grid in the US like? Is it managed at the state or federal level?MTimT said:fpt @ taffy
Presumably the latter [better battery storage] brings solar more into the energy mix. But there is still the issue of efficient transport of solar - the best sources are not particularly close to the bigger conurbations.
In the US, Musk, through Solar City, is trying to really push the house-top solar market.
I find it slightly funny that in UK from the 1930s-1950s we moved from small-scale local power generation, with a power station in most towns, often in the centre - to massive power stations outside towns with a countrywide transmission grid.
Yet we're now moving back to small-scale generation, often local in scope. How the grid will cope is another matter.
Most places the local grid is owned and run by the local incumbent utility, which are mostly private but sometimes publicly owned at the state or municipal level. Often there's a mixture. In New York State where I live, conEd is the privately owned utility in most of NYC and Westchester County, but the State's Long Island Power Authority covers the rest of Long Island after the old LI Power Co was compulsorily purchased in the 80s or 90s after some catastrophicly pisspoor management. We have a notionally competitive power market in NYS on the same model as the UK, but it's far less developed and almost everyone, including us, sticks with conEd or whoever their incumbent is.
I understand there are federal mandates to maintain a strategic mix of generation capacity. Most of NY's electricity comes from several nuclear plants plus hydro-electric from the Niagara river and imported from Hydro Quebec, but there are small local fossil fuel generation stations all over the place, including in NYC itself so that there is some local fallback supply for essential usage in the event of a grid failure. Not that seems to work when there have been all-out grid failures in the past.0 -
Wow, another world record in the stadium, Poland's Anita Wlodarczyk throwing the hammer over 82 metres!0
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Brextra timeJonnyJimmy said:Some words I hope to see added to the tabloid Brexicon..
Brexaggeration
Brexcrement
Brexclusive
Brexcitement
Brexhaustion
Brexhibition
Brexhilarating
Brexpansion
Brexpense account
Brexpiry date
Brexecution
Brexcellent
Brexchange rate
Brexpectations
Brexpeditionary force
Brexperience
Brexpert
Brextraordinay
Brextremist0 -
...because you can't resist coming back for more...Luckyguy1983 said:
It's often over before it starts?david_herdson said:
It's something most people can only watch rather than achieve in the flesh?MontyHall said:Being the leader of UKIP is very much like making love to a beautiful woman
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Thanks. It sounds a bit of a mess then.rpjs said:
There are three major grids in the US (all privately owned and managed I believe): one each West and East of the Rockies and a third for Texas, because Texas.JosiasJessop said:
What's the transmission grid in the US like? Is it managed at the state or federal level?MTimT said:fpt @ taffy
Presumably the latter [better battery storage] brings solar more into the energy mix. But there is still the issue of efficient transport of solar - the best sources are not particularly close to the bigger conurbations.
In the US, Musk, through Solar City, is trying to really push the house-top solar market.
I find it slightly funny that in UK from the 1930s-1950s we moved from small-scale local power generation, with a power station in most towns, often in the centre - to massive power stations outside towns with a countrywide transmission grid.
Yet we're now moving back to small-scale generation, often local in scope. How the grid will cope is another matter.
Most places the local grid is owned and run by the local incumbent utility, which are mostly private but sometimes publicly owned at the state or municipal level. Often there's a mixture. In New York State where I live, conEd is the privately owned utility in most of NYC and Westchester County, but the State's Long Island Power Authority covers the rest of Long Island after the old LI Power Co was compulsorily purchased in the 80s or 90s after some catastrophicly pisspoor management. We have a notionally competitive power market in NYS on the same model as the UK, but it's far less developed and almost everyone, including us, sticks with conEd or whoever their incumbent is.
I understand there are federal mandates to maintain a strategic mix of generation capacity. Most of NY's electricity comes from several nuclear plants plus hydro-electric from the Niagara river and imported from Hydro Quebec, but there are small local fossil fuel generation stations all over the place, including in NYC itself so that there is some local fallback supply for essential usage in the event of a grid failure. Not that seems to work when there have been all-out grid failures in the past.0 -
Rather excruciatingly almost all of those have already made it into papers tweets and blogs..RobD said:
Brexcruciating?JonnyJimmy said:Some words I hope to see added to the tabloid Brexicon..
Brexaggeration
Brexcrement
Brexclusive
Brexcitement
Brexhaustion
Brexhibition
Brexhilarating
Brexpansion
Brexpense account
Brexpiry date
Brexecution
Brexcellent
Brexchange rate
Brexpectations
Brexpeditionary force
Brexperience
Brexpert
Brextraordinay
Brextremist0 -
It's complicated, varying by state:NickPalmer said:
Can you, or anyone else, give us a quick briefing on the ballot paper issue? There presumably is a moment afterwhich getting onto the ballots in key states is impossible. When is it?Dromedary said:
https://ballotpedia.org/Ballot_access_for_presidential_candidates
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Such a shame I have lots of work to do, as I know all about US electricity distribution and the ISO system!JosiasJessop said:
What's the transmission grid in the US like? Is it managed at the state or federal level?MTimT said:fpt @ taffy
Presumably the latter [better battery storage] brings solar more into the energy mix. But there is still the issue of efficient transport of solar - the best sources are not particularly close to the bigger conurbations.
In the US, Musk, through Solar City, is trying to really push the house-top solar market.
I find it slightly funny that in UK from the 1930s-1950s we moved from small-scale local power generation, with a power station in most towns, often in the centre - to massive power stations outside towns with a countrywide transmission grid.
Yet we're now moving back to small-scale generation, often local in scope. How the grid will cope is another matter.
(On a side-issue, Musk's SpaceX made another launch yesterday, and another successful landing, even though it was a high-orbit launch that made the landing much more difficult. I think that's five out of the last six launches with a successful landing).0 -
Farage’s ‘tash is going to get up there with AV as a souce of occasional comment.0
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Scotch BrexitJonnyJimmy said:Some words I hope to see added to the tabloid Brexicon..
Scrambled Brexit
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Alternative Veet?OldKingCole said:Farage’s ‘tash is going to get up there with AV as a souce of occasional comment.
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While I agree with Baxter's conclusions that a split produces a joint suicide, I don't quite undersdtand the methodology. When he considers a scenario where a hypothetical New Labour gets 60% of the Labour vote, he thinks that this leads to a roughly 2.5:1 advantage over Old Labour in seats (coupled with the Tories cleaning up). But if the new party consistently gets 60% of the Labour vote, how does he poject the old party getting any seats at all? Is he putting in assumptions about regional variation, or what?kle4 said:
Whether the numbers on that are correct or not, it is why no large split will happen, and probably not even a small split. Ridiculous as it may be to pretend they are all of the same mind and direction, and far beyond any talk of broad churches, the one thing they all do seem committed on is Tories are the enemy still, and any split will be seen as helping the Tories.Sandpit said:Martin Baxter: A Labour split helps no-one except the Tories
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/08/15/the-numbers-dont-lie-splitting-would-be-catastrophic-for-labour/
"In almost all the scenarios, the combined Labour parties win fewer seats than they did at the last general election. Only if overall Labour support increases by 20 per cent do they even equal their 2015 performance. And in all cases, the Conservatives remain the largest party in parliament and are almost certainly in government."
On your point, under FPTP it's always been true that nearly everyone puts up with things they don't like in the party they support because they think it's better or less bad than the alternative. There has never been any pretense that, say, Ken Clarke and Bill Cash are of a similar mind and direction, when they hardly agree about anything at all, except that they're Not Labour. The position for a centrist Labour MP who sticks with Corbyn will be identical.
Incidentally, an oddity about the Lasbour MPs telling George Eaton (FPT) that turnout at local meetings is untypical because they're full of keen young Corbyn fans sits oddly with the previous complaint that the new members don't turn up for meetings and only the old stalwarts bother. It might be true, but it's second-hand speculation from biased sources. What I think is happening is that the Smith camp are trying to prevent a sense of inevitability which could depress their vote (the sources fo Don's article in the last thread may be relevant to that too).0 -
ISO system? I guess you don't mean the standards body ...rcs1000 said:
Such a shame I have lots of work to do, as I know all about US electricity distribution and the ISO system!JosiasJessop said:
What's the transmission grid in the US like? Is it managed at the state or federal level?MTimT said:fpt @ taffy
Presumably the latter [better battery storage] brings solar more into the energy mix. But there is still the issue of efficient transport of solar - the best sources are not particularly close to the bigger conurbations.
In the US, Musk, through Solar City, is trying to really push the house-top solar market.
I find it slightly funny that in UK from the 1930s-1950s we moved from small-scale local power generation, with a power station in most towns, often in the centre - to massive power stations outside towns with a countrywide transmission grid.
Yet we're now moving back to small-scale generation, often local in scope. How the grid will cope is another matter.
(On a side-issue, Musk's SpaceX made another launch yesterday, and another successful landing, even though it was a high-orbit launch that made the landing much more difficult. I think that's five out of the last six launches with a successful landing). 0 -
British lass in fourth, behind a drugs cheat. That's got to rankle....Sandpit said:Wow, another world record in the stadium, Poland's Anita Wlodarczyk throwing the hammer over 82 metres!
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Nigel Farage, the chewing gum stuck on the sole of British politics.0
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Thanks! Looks as though it weould be almost impossible to get Trump off the ballot in half the states even if he quit imminently, but the flexibility mentioned might get a new candidate on to the ballot with lots of luck. Some states like Ohio and Florida already look very iffy. The 5-1 Betfair odds don't look appealing.Richard_Nabavi said:
It's complicated, varying by state:NickPalmer said:
Can you, or anyone else, give us a quick briefing on the ballot paper issue? There presumably is a moment afterwhich getting onto the ballots in key states is impossible. When is it?Dromedary said:
https://ballotpedia.org/Ballot_access_for_presidential_candidates0 -
The swimming coach was grumbling about the same thing this morning.MarqueeMark said:
British lass in fourth, behind a drugs cheat. That's got to rankle....Sandpit said:Wow, another world record in the stadium, Poland's Anita Wlodarczyk throwing the hammer over 82 metres!
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Not sure the MPs are saying the meetings are full og eager young Corbynites, just that Corbyn supporters are more likely to turn up. And, of course, going to a meeting to vote for JC is not the same as attending normal meetings, knocking on doors, manning stands etc.NickPalmer said:
While I agree party consistently gets 60% of the Labour vote, how does he poject the old party getting any seats at all? Is he putting in assumptions about regional variation, or what?kle4 said:
Whether the numbers on that are correct or not, it is why no large split will happen, and probably not even a small split. Ridiculous as it may be to pretend they are all of the same mind and direction, and far beyond any talk of broad churches, the one thing they all do seem committed on is Tories are the enemy still, and any split will be seen as helping the Tories.Sandpit said:Martin Baxter: A Labour split helps no-one except the Tories
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/08/15/the-numbers-dont-lie-splitting-would-be-catastrophic-for-labour/
"In almost all the scenarios, the combined Labour parties win fewer seats than they did at the last general election. Only if overall Labour support increases by 20 per cent do they even equal their 2015 performance. And in all cases, the Conservatives remain the largest party in parliament and are almost certainly in government."
On your point, under FPTP it's always been true that nearly everyone puts up with things they don't like in the party they support because they think it's better or less bad than the alternative. There has never been any pretense that, say, Ken Clarke and Bill Cash are of a similar mind and direction, when they hardly agree about anything at all, except that they're Not Labour. The position for a centrist Labour MP who sticks with Corbyn will be identical.
Incidentally, an oddity about the Lasbour MPs telling George Eaton (FPT) that turnout at local meetings is untypical because they're full of keen young Corbyn fans sits oddly with the previous complaint that the new members don't turn up for meetings and only the old stalwarts bother. It might be true, but it's second-hand speculation from biased sources. What I think is happening is that the Smith camp are trying to prevent a sense of inevitability which could depress their vote (the sources fo Don's article in the last thread may be relevant to that too).
However, I agree that Don and the MPs are whistling in the wind. The NEC CLP vote is the best indicator there is and that points to a clear Corbyn win.
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''The swimming coach was grumbling about the same thing this morning. ''
I wonder if an organised boycott by clean nations is far away. Phelps & co were also very unhappy, apparently.0 -
Team GB had 7 x 4th in the pool....OldKingCole said:
The swimming coach was grumbling about the same thing this morning.MarqueeMark said:
British lass in fourth, behind a drugs cheat. That's got to rankle....Sandpit said:Wow, another world record in the stadium, Poland's Anita Wlodarczyk throwing the hammer over 82 metres!
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Those words have been used too many times this week unfortunately. The IOC need to grow a pair and kick them all out for good.MarqueeMark said:
British lass in fourth, behind a drugs cheat. That's got to rankle....Sandpit said:Wow, another world record in the stadium, Poland's Anita Wlodarczyk throwing the hammer over 82 metres!
But young Sophie Hitchon just took the bronze at the death
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Yes, it's not a realistic option for the GOP.NickPalmer said:Thanks! Looks as though it weould be almost impossible to get Trump off the ballot in half the states even if he quit imminently, but the flexibility mentioned might get a new candidate on to the ballot with lots of luck. Some states like Ohio and Florida already look very iffy. The 5-1 Betfair odds don't look appealing.
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Always a headache deciding which ISO to useJosiasJessop said:
ISO system? I guess you don't mean the standards body ...rcs1000 said:
Such a shame I have lots of work to do, as I know all about US electricity distribution and the ISO system!JosiasJessop said:
What's the transmission grid in the US like? Is it managed at the state or federal level?MTimT said:fpt @ taffy
Presumably the latter [better battery storage] brings solar more into the energy mix. But there is still the issue of efficient transport of solar - the best sources are not particularly close to the bigger conurbations.
In the US, Musk, through Solar City, is trying to really push the house-top solar market.
I find it slightly funny that in UK from the 1930s-1950s we moved from small-scale local power generation, with a power station in most towns, often in the centre - to massive power stations outside towns with a countrywide transmission grid.
Yet we're now moving back to small-scale generation, often local in scope. How the grid will cope is another matter.
(On a side-issue, Musk's SpaceX made another launch yesterday, and another successful landing, even though it was a high-orbit launch that made the landing much more difficult. I think that's five out of the last six launches with a successful landing).
Can't believe I missed a Spacex landing! Mind you there was alot going on in the world yesterday.0 -
A village mayor in Corsica has banned full-body swimsuits known as "burkinis" after a beach brawl between families of North African descent and local youths.
Witnesses say hatchets and harpoons were used in the Sisco beach brawl.
The five injured on Saturday were later discharged from hospital, but tensions are simmering in the area.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-370826370 -
National - UPI/CVoter
Clinton 49 .. Trump 45.5
http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2016/08/15/UPICVoter-poll-Hillary-Clinton-leads-Donald-Trump-by-35-points/8741471264502/?spt=sec&or=tn0 -
Possibly the single most pleasing throw of these games!Sandpit said:
Those words have been used too many times this week unfortunately. The IOC need to grow a pair and kick them all out for good.MarqueeMark said:
British lass in fourth, behind a drugs cheat. That's got to rankle....Sandpit said:Wow, another world record in the stadium, Poland's Anita Wlodarczyk throwing the hammer over 82 metres!
But young Sophie Hitchon just took the bronze at the death0 -
Just to be contrarySouthamObserver said:
Not sure the MPs are saying the meetings are full og eager young Corbynites, just that Corbyn supporters are more likely to turn up. And, of course, going to a meeting to vote for JC is not the same as attending normal meetings, knocking on doors, manning stands etc.
However, I agree that Don and the MPs are whistling in the wind. The NEC CLP vote is the best indicator there is and that points to a clear Corbyn win., a cautionary note on that. The NEC vote was of all members, including the 100K who joined recently. Perhaps that affected the result, who knows? 0 -
FrancisUrquhart said:
A village mayor in Corsica has banned full-body swimsuits known as "burkinis" after a beach brawl between families of North African descent and local youths.
Witnesses say hatchets and harpoons were used in the Sisco beach brawl.
The five injured on Saturday were later discharged from hospital, but tensions are simmering in the area.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-37082637
"We need to protect our liberal values"FrancisUrquhart said:A village mayor in Corsica has banned full-body swimsuits known as "burkinis" after a beach brawl between families of North African descent and local youths.
Witnesses say hatchets and harpoons were used in the Sisco beach brawl.
The five injured on Saturday were later discharged from hospital, but tensions are simmering in the area.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-37082637
OK good how?
"By controlling what people wear".
*facepalm*.0 -
OldKingCole said:
The swimming coach was grumbling about the same thing this morning.MarqueeMark said:
British lass in fourth, behind a drugs cheat. That's got to rankle....Sandpit said:Wow, another world record in the stadium, Poland's Anita Wlodarczyk throwing the hammer over 82 metres!
The answer is screamingly obvious - anyone with a drugs ban can compete. Their times will be recorded. But they are not eligible for the medals. You have two lists - the complete field, and the clean medals list. It would stop drugs cheats overnight if they could never get on a podium for the rest of their lives.0 -
Princeton Election Consortium - Nowcast EV
Clinton 340 .. Trump 198
http://election.princeton.edu/todays-electoral-vote-histogram/0 -
The beach pictured doesn't look ideal for bikinis anyway.FrancisUrquhart said:A village mayor in Corsica has banned full-body swimsuits known as "burkinis" after a beach brawl between families of North African descent and local youths.
Witnesses say hatchets and harpoons were used in the Sisco beach brawl.
The five injured on Saturday were later discharged from hospital, but tensions are simmering in the area.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-370826370 -
Remoanersedmundintokyo said:
Brextra timeJonnyJimmy said:Some words I hope to see added to the tabloid Brexicon..
Brexaggeration
Brexcrement
Brexclusive
Brexcitement
Brexhaustion
Brexhibition
Brexhilarating
Brexpansion
Brexpense account
Brexpiry date
Brexecution
Brexcellent
Brexchange rate
Brexpectations
Brexpeditionary force
Brexperience
Brexpert
Brextraordinay
Brextremist0 -
Spectacularly stupid idea. Probably one of the best examples of displacement activity I've seen.nunu said:FrancisUrquhart said:A village mayor in Corsica has banned full-body swimsuits known as "burkinis" after a beach brawl between families of North African descent and local youths.
Witnesses say hatchets and harpoons were used in the Sisco beach brawl.
The five injured on Saturday were later discharged from hospital, but tensions are simmering in the area.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-37082637
"We need to protect our liberal values"FrancisUrquhart said:A village mayor in Corsica has banned full-body swimsuits known as "burkinis" after a beach brawl between families of North African descent and local youths.
Witnesses say hatchets and harpoons were used in the Sisco beach brawl.
The five injured on Saturday were later discharged from hospital, but tensions are simmering in the area.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-37082637
OK good how?
"By controlling what people wear".
*facepalm*.0 -
Worth pointing out that that is the mean of their probability distribution, not their estimate of the most likely single outcome (which is 341, with the second most likely at 347, reading off the histogram).JackW said:Princeton Election Consortium - Nowcast EV
Clinton 340 .. Trump 198
http://election.princeton.edu/todays-electoral-vote-histogram/0 -
The British lad in the boxing has got a name to live up to....Muhammad Ali0
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Interesting how different they look from the histograms on 538.Richard_Nabavi said:
Worth pointing out that that is the mean of their probability distribution, not their estimate of the most likely single outcome (which is 341, with the second most likely at 347, reading off the histogram).JackW said:Princeton Election Consortium - Nowcast EV
Clinton 340 .. Trump 198
http://election.princeton.edu/todays-electoral-vote-histogram/0 -
I have to say, if that were my name I wouldn't take up boxing. Nor, were I named Bobby More, would I go anywhere near a competitive football field.FrancisUrquhart said:The British lad in the boxing has got a name to live up to....Muhammad Ali
Talk about a target on your back... everyone in the competition will want to be able to say that they beat Muhammad Ali!0 -
I guess RCS wasn't referring to the International Socialist Organisation!Pulpstar said:Always a headache deciding which ISO to use
Can't believe I missed a Spacex landing! Mind you there was alot going on in the world yesterday.
SpaceX is doing quite amazing things - although I still reserve judgement until they've a few successful reflights under their belt. They're currently doing multiple full refirings of the landed stage that suffered the most stress during landing, before launching one or two previously-landed stages this year.
That's the moment when they might change the space business for good.
As an aside, I've been doing some further reading up on SpaceX. Even when throttled down as far as it can go, one Merlin engine produces more thrust than the weight of the landing stage. For this reason, they fire it only for a very short period immediately before landing to stop its momentum, and then let it drop the last distance (the landing legs have deformable sections to take the worst of the impact).
Compare to Blue Origin, whose engines can be throttled even lower, allowing it to hover.
I makes the landings even more amazing.0 -
Yes. The 538 ones look more sensible to me, but it's a bit early to take either of them too literally.RobD said:
Interesting how different they look from the histograms on 538.Richard_Nabavi said:
Worth pointing out that that is the mean of their probability distribution, not their estimate of the most likely single outcome (which is 341, with the second most likely at 347, reading off the histogram).JackW said:Princeton Election Consortium - Nowcast EV
Clinton 340 .. Trump 198
http://election.princeton.edu/todays-electoral-vote-histogram/0 -
I'd let the cheats have their own competition - after the Paralympics when no-ones there to watch it and the media have all packed up. Why should they get any publicity.MarqueeMark said:OldKingCole said:
The swimming coach was grumbling about the same thing this morning.MarqueeMark said:
British lass in fourth, behind a drugs cheat. That's got to rankle....Sandpit said:Wow, another world record in the stadium, Poland's Anita Wlodarczyk throwing the hammer over 82 metres!
The answer is screamingly obvious - anyone with a drugs ban can compete. Their times will be recorded. But they are not eligible for the medals. You have two lists - the complete field, and the clean medals list. It would stop drugs cheats overnight if they could never get on a podium for the rest of their lives.0 -
"when no-ones there to watch it"....how would we know the difference from the proper Olympics in Rio?Sandpit said:
I'd let the cheats have their own competition - after the Paralympics when no-ones there to watch it and the media have all packed up. Why should they get any publicity.MarqueeMark said:OldKingCole said:
The swimming coach was grumbling about the same thing this morning.MarqueeMark said:
British lass in fourth, behind a drugs cheat. That's got to rankle....Sandpit said:Wow, another world record in the stadium, Poland's Anita Wlodarczyk throwing the hammer over 82 metres!
The answer is screamingly obvious - anyone with a drugs ban can compete. Their times will be recorded. But they are not eligible for the medals. You have two lists - the complete field, and the clean medals list. It would stop drugs cheats overnight if they could never get on a podium for the rest of their lives.0 -
GB's nine different sports with medals currently leads all countries (USA 8, China 7, France 6). Plus sailing will make it 10 tomorrow.0
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''SpaceX is doing quite amazing things - although I still reserve judgement until they've a few successful reflights under their belt. ''
If Bond gets the Sabre engine right, SpaceX could have spent a great deal of money for nothing.0 -
nunu said:
"We need to protect our liberal values"
OK good how?
"By controlling what people wear".
*facepalm*.
Maajid Nawaz gets this issue right.0 -
The crowd did eventually show up last night to watch the 100m and the 400m world record. After 10 days of no-one being there.FrancisUrquhart said:
"when no-ones there to watch it"....how would we know the difference from the proper Olympics in Rio?Sandpit said:
I'd let the cheats have their own competition - after the Paralympics when no-ones there to watch it and the media have all packed up. Why should they get any publicity.MarqueeMark said:OldKingCole said:
The swimming coach was grumbling about the same thing this morning.MarqueeMark said:
British lass in fourth, behind a drugs cheat. That's got to rankle....Sandpit said:Wow, another world record in the stadium, Poland's Anita Wlodarczyk throwing the hammer over 82 metres!
The answer is screamingly obvious - anyone with a drugs ban can compete. Their times will be recorded. But they are not eligible for the medals. You have two lists - the complete field, and the clean medals list. It would stop drugs cheats overnight if they could never get on a podium for the rest of their lives.
Probably only 20% full for the morning Athletics session now though. They really need to go and find some school kids from somewhere.0 -
Do you know what's so revolutionary about the SpaceX engine?taffys said:''SpaceX is doing quite amazing things - although I still reserve judgement until they've a few successful reflights under their belt. ''
If Bond gets the Sabre engine right, SpaceX could have spent a great deal of money for nothing.0 -
After yesterdays idiot on the golf course, somebody tried to join in the long distance drowning in polluted water race this afternoon.Sandpit said:
The crowd did eventually show up last night to watch the 100m and the 400m world record. After 10 days of no-one being there.FrancisUrquhart said:
"when no-ones there to watch it"....how would we know the difference from the proper Olympics in Rio?Sandpit said:
I'd let the cheats have their own competition - after the Paralympics when no-ones there to watch it and the media have all packed up. Why should they get any publicity.MarqueeMark said:OldKingCole said:
The swimming coach was grumbling about the same thing this morning.MarqueeMark said:
British lass in fourth, behind a drugs cheat. That's got to rankle....Sandpit said:Wow, another world record in the stadium, Poland's Anita Wlodarczyk throwing the hammer over 82 metres!
The answer is screamingly obvious - anyone with a drugs ban can compete. Their times will be recorded. But they are not eligible for the medals. You have two lists - the complete field, and the clean medals list. It would stop drugs cheats overnight if they could never get on a podium for the rest of their lives.
Probably only 20% full for the morning Athletics session now though. They really need to go and find some school kids from somewhere.0 -
He gets most thing right, 'cepting his choice of political party to stand for, but in the scheme of things he gets a pass on that also.rcs1000 said:
Maajid Nawaz gets this issue right.nunu said:
"We need to protect our liberal values"
OK good how?
"By controlling what people wear".
*facepalm*.0 -
Indeed, but SpaceX are much further down the road. I'd argue that SpaceX have a good chance of reducing launch costs to LEO by half from current costs from competitors, and perhaps down as low as 25% within the next five years.taffys said:''SpaceX is doing quite amazing things - although I still reserve judgement until they've a few successful reflights under their belt. ''
If Bond gets the Sabre engine right, SpaceX could have spent a great deal of money for nothing.
Sabre won't even be flight-tested for many years.
But Sabre's worth doing, as it may be a game changer if it works. And even if it does not, the tech and knowledge developed may well be useful elsewhere.0
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