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At 11:36pm on June 23rd, just before the first result was declared, the market was just short of 90% confident of a Remain vote. So much for markets knowing best – the market was wrong, and staggeringly confident in its wrongness.
This reminds me that someone on here, I'm pretty sure it was Tissue_Price, remarked early on (just after Sunderland, I think) that the greatest value might come when Leave was 2.5 in the betting but 1.3 in reality. So it proved and keeping that advice in mind made me an extra 3k on top of what I had, so many thanks. Really shrewd comment.
Fox drifting - starting to look like 4 horse race:
Boris and May; with Crabb and Leadsom as outsiders.
Leadsom was distinctly unimpressive in the Wembly debate, workmanlike but robotic and outshone by Stuart and Johnson. Unless Crabb reveals some very interesting ideas and surprising charisma he's coming from nowhere to challenge the big hitters. I'm not sure May truly wants it enough to beat Boris.
Do English people get embarrassed by the commentaries on England games?
I feel envious of the other home nations for whom being at the tournament is a big thing. Tyldesley just over does his commentary.
I have a theory that if England games had commentaries by Scots in Scotland, etc, then people in the other home nations would be much, much more favourable towards England.
And yet, when I hear Gerry Armstrong doing a Northern Ireland game I really want them to win? Doesn't work with Robbie Savage and Wales, mind.
Fox drifting - starting to look like 4 horse race:
Boris and May; with Crabb and Leadsom as outsiders.
Leadsom was distinctly unimpressive in the Wembly debate, workmanlike but robotic and outshone by Stuart and Johnson. Unless Crabb reveals some very interesting ideas and surprising charisma he's coming from nowhere to challenge the big hitters. I'm not sure May truly wants it enough to beat Boris.
Doesn't Crabb have the backing of Cameron? That's the feeling I get.
Do English people get embarrassed by the commentaries on England games?
I feel envious of the other home nations for whom being at the tournament is a big thing. Tyldesley just over does his commentary.
I have a theory that if England games had commentaries by Scots in Scotland, etc, then people in the other home nations would be much, much more favourable towards England.
And yet, when I hear Gerry Armstrong doing a Northern Ireland game I really want them to win? Doesn't work with Robbie Savage and Wales, mind.
Because there is a pragmatism from commentators in most of the home nattions. Savage is very much from the English school of "its all biased against us, every foul should be a red card". Scotland games (even against minnows) do not go in saying "we'll win this".
Savage on the Wales games sounded just like the English commentators and pundits do on England games. Armstrong sounded the way you would want a commentator to sound. Hopeful but not arrogant.
I won't be first, but apparently its Crabb for the leadership and Javid for CX.
What are they thinking? While complete and utter non-entities like Crabb and Javid are messing around we're delaying the chance of getting a new leader and Chancellor in place as soon as possible.
We all know its going to be Theresa and Boris in the final two so lets just get on with it.
I won't be first, but apparently its Crabb for the leadership and Javid for CX.
What are they thinking? While complete and utter non-entities like Crabb and Javid are messing around we're delaying the chance of getting a new leader and Chancellor in place as soon as possible.
We all know its going to be Theresa and Boris in the final two so lets just get on with it.
Because Tories always back the favourite?
But yeah it is hard to see, in a short campaign, on the back of Boris' EUref victory, how new faces get in the final 2.
Fox drifting - starting to look like 4 horse race:
Boris and May; with Crabb and Leadsom as outsiders.
Leadsom was distinctly unimpressive in the Wembly debate, workmanlike but robotic and outshone by Stuart and Johnson. Unless Crabb reveals some very interesting ideas and surprising charisma he's coming from nowhere to challenge the big hitters. I'm not sure May truly wants it enough to beat Boris.
Doesn't Crabb have the backing of Cameron? That's the feeling I get.
He needs more than that to beat Boris, what else does he have going for him? We'll see I guess. May's still the best bet to avoid a Boris win I think.
Do English people get embarrassed by the commentaries on England games?
I feel envious of the other home nations for whom being at the tournament is a big thing. Tyldesley just over does his commentary.
I have a theory that if England games had commentaries by Scots in Scotland, etc, then people in the other home nations would be much, much more favourable towards England.
And yet, when I hear Gerry Armstrong doing a Northern Ireland game I really want them to win? Doesn't work with Robbie Savage and Wales, mind.
Because there is a pragmatism from commentators in most of the home nattions. Savage is very much from the English school of "its all biased against us, every foul should be a red card". Scotland games (even against minnows) do not go in saying "we'll win this".
Savage on the Wales games sounded just like the English commentators and pundits do on England games. Armstrong sounded the way you would want a commentator to sound. Hopeful but not arrogant.
I've completely emotionally disinvested from English national football. They've been so mediocre for so long they just bore me, now, and I NEVER anticipate a victory
It is odd tho. How a country with so many players and so much money and such a strong domestic culture could be SO crap for SO long, barely troubling semi finals in 40 years.
It is a statistical anomaly.
At least Spain's team used to do similarly poorly in international competition compared to their league and support. Now we don't even have that comfort.
Is 1996 the best we've done in a long long time? Christ, I was still at primary school when that happened!
I've completely emotionally disinvested from English national football. They've been so mediocre for so long they just bore me, now, and I NEVER anticipate a victory
It is odd tho. How a country with so many players and so much money and such a strong domestic culture could be SO crap for SO long, barely troubling semi finals in 40 years.
It is a statistical anomaly.
Perhaps the way the English media deal with them might be counter-productive?
It must be quite hard to really give it all in training with all the press saying you're about to walk your next game and win the tournament.
I've completely emotionally disinvested from English national football. They've been so mediocre for so long they just bore me, now, and I NEVER anticipate a victory
It is odd tho. How a country with so many players and so much money and such a strong domestic culture could be SO crap for SO long, barely troubling semi finals in 40 years.
It is a statistical anomaly.
Perhaps the way the English media deal with them might be counter-productive?
It must be quite hard to really give it all in training with all the press saying you're about to walk your next game and win the tournament.
Do the press say that? I feel like this supposed arrogance of the English press and team totally slip by me every time.
This reminds me that someone on here, I'm pretty sure it was Tissue_Price, remarked early on (just after Sunderland, I think) that the greatest value might come when Leave was 2.5 in the betting but 1.3 in reality. So it proved and keeping that advice in mind made me an extra 3k on top of what I had, so many thanks. Really shrewd comment.
Do English people get embarrassed by the commentaries on England games?
I feel envious of the other home nations for whom being at the tournament is a big thing. Tyldesley just over does his commentary.
I have a theory that if England games had commentaries by Scots in Scotland, etc, then people in the other home nations would be much, much more favourable towards England.
And yet, when I hear Gerry Armstrong doing a Northern Ireland game I really want them to win? Doesn't work with Robbie Savage and Wales, mind.
Because there is a pragmatism from commentators in most of the home nattions. Savage is very much from the English school of "its all biased against us, every foul should be a red card". Scotland games (even against minnows) do not go in saying "we'll win this".
Savage on the Wales games sounded just like the English commentators and pundits do on England games. Armstrong sounded the way you would want a commentator to sound. Hopeful but not arrogant.
I've completely emotionally disinvested from English national football. They've been so mediocre for so long they just bore me, now, and I NEVER anticipate a victory
It is odd tho. How a country with so many players and so much money and such a strong domestic culture could be SO crap for SO long, barely troubling semi finals in 40 years.
It is a statistical anomaly.
They're far too comfortable, earning massive sums for mediocre performances. They're very much like British tennis they don't have to do well to have a decent income, they are insulated by the money sloshing through the system.
When they come across players who actually need to do well, they're embarrassed.
Apparently 7,000 new Lib Dem members since Friday - running at one a minute. Including Clare Gerada former Chair of Royal College of GPs, who's left Labour
I won't be first, but apparently its Crabb for the leadership and Javid for CX.
What are they thinking? While complete and utter non-entities like Crabb and Javid are messing around we're delaying the chance of getting a new leader and Chancellor in place as soon as possible.
We all know its going to be Theresa and Boris in the final two so lets just get on with it.
In 2001 it was Portillo vs Clarke. In 2005 it was Davis vs Fox. In 1997 it was Clarke vs Howard. In 1990 it was Heseltine or Hurd. In all of those cases none of them ended up winning. Only in 2005 was the campaign significantly longer than this one will be.
If Crabb and Leadsom stand, there is value in betting on Boris to go out in the first round. He will certainly be struggling to make the final two.
Crabb is clearly a value bet. That's not to say he will win, merely that it would be very foolish to write him off.
Not really. Unless you've been watching the build up to the game and listening to the commentary.
Iceland have a rock solid defence with an extremely good, fast counter-attacking (and goalscoring) attack. They won their Qualifying Group and were very close to winning their First Round Group.
They are a very good, well managed side with just enough talent to make an exceptionally good system work. In other words, they are Leicester City.
I won't be first, but apparently its Crabb for the leadership and Javid for CX.
What are they thinking? While complete and utter non-entities like Crabb and Javid are messing around we're delaying the chance of getting a new leader and Chancellor in place as soon as possible.
We all know its going to be Theresa and Boris in the final two so lets just get on with it.
In 2001 it was Portillo vs Clarke. In 2005 it was Davis vs Fox. In 1997 it was Clarke vs Howard. In 1990 it was Heseltine or Hurd. Only in 2005 was the campaign significantly longer than this one will be.
If Crabb and Leadsom stand, there is value in betting on Boris to go out in the first round. He will certainly be struggling to make the final two.
How many of the outright Leave candidates might be vulnerable to a Bregetter swing in their own constituencies? None of them are not tainted by the lies of the campaign.
Apparently 7,000 new Lib Dem members since Friday - running at one a minute. Including Clare Gerada former Chair of Royal College of GPs, who's left Labour
I won't be first, but apparently its Crabb for the leadership and Javid for CX.
What are they thinking? While complete and utter non-entities like Crabb and Javid are messing around we're delaying the chance of getting a new leader and Chancellor in place as soon as possible.
We all know its going to be Theresa and Boris in the final two so lets just get on with it.
In 2001 it was Portillo vs Clarke. In 2005 it was Davis vs Fox. In 1997 it was Clarke vs Howard. In 1990 it was Heseltine or Hurd. In all of those cases none of them ended up winning. Only in 2005 was the campaign significantly longer than this one will be.
If Crabb and Leadsom stand, there is value in betting on Boris to go out in the first round. He will certainly be struggling to make the final two.
Crabb is clearly a value bet. That's not to say he will win, merely that it would be very foolish to write him off.
I've got £10 on Leadsom @ 16/1.
I think there has to be at least one Leave option in the final two, if not both, and she and Mr Johnson are the best known.
This reminds me that someone on here, I'm pretty sure it was Tissue_Price, remarked early on (just after Sunderland, I think) that the greatest value might come when Leave was 2.5 in the betting but 1.3 in reality. So it proved and keeping that advice in mind made me an extra 3k on top of what I had, so many thanks. Really shrewd comment.
8.4 may be value on Leave [feels big to me but others may have more info], but there'll almost certainly be greater value later if they're actually in with a shot.
Peak value must be now, if they do have a shot word will soon spread from the counts.
If Leave win Sunderland handily you might be able to get 2.5 about a 1.3 shot.
I won't be first, but apparently its Crabb for the leadership and Javid for CX.
What are they thinking? While complete and utter non-entities like Crabb and Javid are messing around we're delaying the chance of getting a new leader and Chancellor in place as soon as possible.
We all know its going to be Theresa and Boris in the final two so lets just get on with it.
In 2001 it was Portillo vs Clarke. In 2005 it was Davis vs Fox. In 1997 it was Clarke vs Howard. In 1990 it was Heseltine or Hurd. Only in 2005 was the campaign significantly longer than this one will be.
If Crabb and Leadsom stand, there is value in betting on Boris to go out in the first round. He will certainly be struggling to make the final two.
How many of the outright Leave candidates might be vulnerable to a Bregetter swing in their own constituencies? None of them are not tainted by the lies of the campaign.
Key point to remember is that Boris is a weak candidate. He's divisive, incompetent (eight years of running London rather ineptly) dishonest and also has been pretty unpleasant all the way through the campaign. Looking at the way the votes fell there is clearly an argument to be made that Leave won despite him not because of him.
A low-key remainer loudly accepting the result might find it easier to reunite the party and the country and is less likely to make a dog's dinner of exit negotiations or anything else. Moreover with Labour in such desperate straits there is no political need for a showman or a safe candidate. A punt may be taken
My hunch is May will probably get it, but if Crabb stands it would not be surprising to see him make the runoff.
Aside from the charisma deficit, I don't think his investment-banking history is going to endear him to the Great British Public. I actually think it undermines his "son of an immigrant bus driver" narrative. Which on the one hand is a wee bit unfair: investment bankers tend to be smart, driven and work their arses off, so perhaps do not deserve the total disdain and opprobrium reserved for them, and the fact he got to that position from where he started out in life is a considerable achievement. On the more important hand, it's not really unfair because having a great childhood and ethnic backstory is out of your hands anyway, so it's not clear why anyone really deserves to benefit from it. (Patronising and illogical isn't it, "your parents were Pakistani - well done!" or "you grew up on a council estate - therefore I'll vote for you!" ... and as for "I can't vote for you, your parents were rich and sent you to Eton", well it ain't the kid's fault, is it?)
Do English people get embarrassed by the commentaries on England games?
I feel envious of the other home nations for whom being at the tournament is a big thing. Tyldesley just over does his commentary.
I have a theory that if England games had commentaries by Scots in Scotland, etc, then people in the other home nations would be much, much more favourable towards England.
And yet, when I hear Gerry Armstrong doing a Northern Ireland game I really want them to win? Doesn't work with Robbie Savage and Wales, mind.
Because there is a pragmatism from commentators in most of the home nattions. Savage is very much from the English school of "its all biased against us, every foul should be a red card". Scotland games (even against minnows) do not go in saying "we'll win this".
Savage on the Wales games sounded just like the English commentators and pundits do on England games. Armstrong sounded the way you would want a commentator to sound. Hopeful but not arrogant.
I've completely emotionally disinvested from English national football. They've been so mediocre for so long they just bore me, now, and I NEVER anticipate a victory
It is odd tho. How a country with so many players and so much money and such a strong domestic culture could be SO crap for SO long, barely troubling semi finals in 40 years.
It is a statistical anomaly.
Part of the problem with UK football is that the premier league is stuffed with foreign players because EU rules mean free movement for them so its easier for the clubs to import players than bring on good youths which in turn means the national side suffers.
Cricket faced a similar problem and solved it by banning first class teams from having more than one overseas player per team which worked because few overseas cricket players had EU passports.
So leaving the EU may do wonders for the national side in a few years.
I won't be first, but apparently its Crabb for the leadership and Javid for CX.
What are they thinking? While complete and utter non-entities like Crabb and Javid are messing around we're delaying the chance of getting a new leader and Chancellor in place as soon as possible.
We all know its going to be Theresa and Boris in the final two so lets just get on with it.
In 2001 it was Portillo vs Clarke. In 2005 it was Davis vs Fox. In 1997 it was Clarke vs Howard. In 1990 it was Heseltine or Hurd. In all of those cases none of them ended up winning. Only in 2005 was the campaign significantly longer than this one will be.
If Crabb and Leadsom stand, there is value in betting on Boris to go out in the first round. He will certainly be struggling to make the final two.
Crabb is clearly a value bet. That's not to say he will win, merely that it would be very foolish to write him off.
I've got £10 on Leadsom @ 16/1.
I think there has to be at least one Leave option in the final two, if not both, and she and Mr Johnson are the best known.
Seems a fair bet for the final two if she stands. She is certainly a plausible candidate and if the Leavers coalesce around one candidate she might be a way of saving their blushes.
I just can't see her beating Theresa May or any other ranking Cabinet minister.
My hunch is May will probably get it, but if Crabb stands it would not be surprising to see him make the runoff.
So we risk getting a completely unknown, untested and unelected novice in place to make decisions that will have existential consequences for our nation.
Do English people get embarrassed by the commentaries on England games?
I feel envious of the other home nations for whom being at the tournament is a big thing. Tyldesley just over does his commentary.
I have a theory that if England games had commentaries by Scots in Scotland, etc, then people in the other home nations would be much, much more favourable towards England.
And yet, when I hear Gerry Armstrong doing a Northern Ireland game I really want them to win? Doesn't work with Robbie Savage and Wales, mind.
Because there is a pragmatism from commentators in most of the home nattions. Savage is very much from the English school of "its all biased against us, every foul should be a red card". Scotland games (even against minnows) do not go in saying "we'll win this".
Savage on the Wales games sounded just like the English commentators and pundits do on England games. Armstrong sounded the way you would want a commentator to sound. Hopeful but not arrogant.
I've completely emotionally disinvested from English national football. They've been so mediocre for so long they just bore me, now, and I NEVER anticipate a victory
It is odd tho. How a country with so many players and so much money and such a strong domestic culture could be SO crap for SO long, barely troubling semi finals in 40 years.
It is a statistical anomaly.
Part of the problem with UK football is that the premier league is stuffed with foreign players because EU rules mean free movement for them so its easier for the clubs to import players than bring on good youths which in turn means the national side suffers.
Cricket faced a similar problem and solved it by banning first class teams from having more than one overseas player per team which worked because few overseas cricket players had EU passports.
So leaving the EU may do wonders for the national side in a few years.
While I will be more than happy to see the end of PL clubs stockpiling foreign youngsters, I'm not sure it will make a jot of difference to the England team.
I don't know if other people saw this the other night, but the Iceland white strip is identical to the kit from Escape To Victory. You've got to love them for that alone....
Apparently 7,000 new Lib Dem members since Friday - running at one a minute. Including Clare Gerada former Chair of Royal College of GPs, who's left Labour
My hunch is May will probably get it, but if Crabb stands it would not be surprising to see him make the runoff.
So we risk getting a completely unknown, untested and unelected novice in place to make decisions that will have existential consequences for our nation.
It's no way to run a country.
No, but the other way hasn't exactly worked either.
And Boris' problem is that we all know what he's capable of - showmanship and vacuity. He's Gordon with a sense of humour and a silly haircut. Better anyone than him.
I won't be first, but apparently its Crabb for the leadership and Javid for CX.
What are they thinking? While complete and utter non-entities like Crabb and Javid are messing around we're delaying the chance of getting a new leader and Chancellor in place as soon as possible.
We all know its going to be Theresa and Boris in the final two so lets just get on with it.
In 2001 it was Portillo vs Clarke. In 2005 it was Davis vs Fox. In 1997 it was Clarke vs Howard. In 1990 it was Heseltine or Hurd. Only in 2005 was the campaign significantly longer than this one will be.
If Crabb and Leadsom stand, there is value in betting on Boris to go out in the first round. He will certainly be struggling to make the final two.
How many of the outright Leave candidates might be vulnerable to a Bregetter swing in their own constituencies? None of them are not tainted by the lies of the campaign.
Key point to remember is that Boris is a weak candidate. He's divisive, incompetent (eight years of running London rather ineptly) dishonest and also has been pretty unpleasant all the way through the campaign. Looking at the way the votes fell there is clearly an argument to be made that Leave won despite him not because of him.
A low-key remainer loudly accepting the result might find it easier to reunite the party and the country and is less likely to make a dog's dinner of exit negotiations or anything else. Moreover with Labour in such desperate straits there is no political need for a showman or a safe candidate. A punt may be taken
My hunch is May will probably get it, but if Crabb stands it would not be surprising to see him make the runoff.
Straw in the wind but most of the prominent Tory Leave MPs were greeted with silent, cold and sullen hostility by their colleagues when putting questions to Cameron in the Commons this afternoon.
Do English people get embarrassed by the commentaries on England games?
I feel envious of the other home nations for whom being at the tournament is a big thing. Tyldesley just over does his commentary.
I have a theory that if England games had commentaries by Scots in Scotland, etc, then people in the other home nations would be much, much more favourable towards England.
And yet, when I hear Gerry Armstrong doing a Northern Ireland game I really want them to win? Doesn't work with Robbie Savage and Wales, mind.
Because there is a pragmatism from commentators in most of the home nattions. Savage is very much from the English school of "its all biased against us, every foul should be a red card". Scotland games (even against minnows) do not go in saying "we'll win this".
Savage on the Wales games sounded just like the English commentators and pundits do on England games. Armstrong sounded the way you would want a commentator to sound. Hopeful but not arrogant.
I've completely emotionally disinvested from English national football. They've been so mediocre for so long they just bore me, now, and I NEVER anticipate a victory
It is odd tho. How a country with so many players and so much money and such a strong domestic culture could be SO crap for SO long, barely troubling semi finals in 40 years.
It is a statistical anomaly.
When we leave the EU, our football will improve automagically.
I won't be first, but apparently its Crabb for the leadership and Javid for CX.
What are they thinking? While complete and utter non-entities like Crabb and Javid are messing around we're delaying the chance of getting a new leader and Chancellor in place as soon as possible.
We all know its going to be Theresa and Boris in the final two so lets just get on with it.
In 2001 it was Portillo vs Clarke. In 2005 it was Davis vs Fox. In 1997 it was Clarke vs Howard. In 1990 it was Heseltine or Hurd. Only in 2005 was the campaign significantly longer than this one will be.
If Crabb and Leadsom stand, there is value in betting on Boris to go out in the first round. He will certainly be struggling to make the final two.
How many of the outright Leave candidates might be vulnerable to a Bregetter swing in their own constituencies? None of them are not tainted by the lies of the campaign.
Key point to remember is that Boris is a weak candidate. He's divisive, incompetent (eight years of running London rather ineptly) dishonest and also has been pretty unpleasant all the way through the campaign. Looking at the way the votes fell there is clearly an argument to be made that Leave won despite him not because of him.
A low-key remainer loudly accepting the result might find it easier to reunite the party and the country and is less likely to make a dog's dinner of exit negotiations or anything else. Moreover with Labour in such desperate straits there is no political need for a showman or a safe candidate. A punt may be taken
My hunch is May will probably get it, but if Crabb stands it would not be surprising to see him make the runoff.
Straw in the wind but most of the prominent Tory Leave MPs were greeted with silent, cold and sullen hostility by their colleagues when putting questions to Cameron in the Commons this afternoon.
I think you mean reverential awe. They sound alike.
Not as bad as Rooney! He is supposed to be playing in that creative role where he is calm and collected on the ball looking for the killer pass & tonight 9/10 it has bobbled off him or his pass has been delivered at awkward pace / height.
My hunch is May will probably get it, but if Crabb stands it would not be surprising to see him make the runoff.
So we risk getting a completely unknown, untested and unelected novice in place to make decisions that will have existential consequences for our nation.
It's no way to run a country.
No, but the other way hasn't exactly worked either.
And Boris' problem is that we all know what he's capable of - showmanship and vacuity. He's Gordon with a sense of humour and a silly haircut. Better anyone than him.
Alistair Campbell had it right yesterday when he said that when you see Cameron on the world stage you feel a bit of pride that he's the PM ...could you say the same about Boris?
I won't be first, but apparently its Crabb for the leadership and Javid for CX.
What are they thinking? While complete and utter non-entities like Crabb and Javid are messing around we're delaying the chance of getting a new leader and Chancellor in place as soon as possible.
We all know its going to be Theresa and Boris in the final two so lets just get on with it.
In 2001 it was Portillo vs Clarke. In 2005 it was Davis vs Fox. In 1997 it was Clarke vs Howard. In 1990 it was Heseltine or Hurd. In all of those cases none of them ended up winning. Only in 2005 was the campaign significantly longer than this one will be.
If Crabb and Leadsom stand, there is value in betting on Boris to go out in the first round. He will certainly be struggling to make the final two.
Crabb is clearly a value bet. That's not to say he will win, merely that it would be very foolish to write him off.
I've got £10 on Leadsom @ 16/1.
I think there has to be at least one Leave option in the final two, if not both, and she and Mr Johnson are the best known.
Seems a fair bet for the final two if she stands. She is certainly a plausible candidate and if the Leavers coalesce around one candidate she might be a way of saving their blushes.
I just can't see her beating Theresa May or any other ranking Cabinet minister.
I think the winner has to a Leave MP. If the membership couldn't stomach Ken Clarke over IDS, they've surely got to back the Leave candidate.
Do English people get embarrassed by the commentaries on England games?
I feel envious of the other home nations for whom being at the tournament is a big thing. Tyldesley just over does his commentary.
I have a theory that if England games had commentaries by Scots in Scotland, etc, then people in the other home nations would be much, much more favourable towards England.
And yet, when I hear Gerry Armstrong doing a Northern Ireland game I really want them to win? Doesn't work with Robbie Savage and Wales, mind.
Because there is a pragmatism from commentators in most of the home nattions. Savage is very much from the English school of "its all biased against us, every foul should be a red card". Scotland games (even against minnows) do not go in saying "we'll win this".
Savage on the Wales games sounded just like the English commentators and pundits do on England games. Armstrong sounded the way you would want a commentator to sound. Hopeful but not arrogant.
I've completely emotionally disinvested from English national football. They've been so mediocre for so long they just bore me, now, and I NEVER anticipate a victory
It is odd tho. How a country with so many players and so much money and such a strong domestic culture could be SO crap for SO long, barely troubling semi finals in 40 years.
It is a statistical anomaly.
When we leave the EU, our football will improve automagically.
Leaving FIFA, which I believe was a Leavers' plan, will also release us from having to play in these elitist, undemocratic competitions.
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Putting the shite, into football since 1966.
So profitable.
Thank you for this Michael
Savage on the Wales games sounded just like the English commentators and pundits do on England games. Armstrong sounded the way you would want a commentator to sound. Hopeful but not arrogant.
We all know its going to be Theresa and Boris in the final two so lets just get on with it.
But yeah it is hard to see, in a short campaign, on the back of Boris' EUref victory, how new faces get in the final 2.
Wilshire on for Dier
Is 1996 the best we've done in a long long time? Christ, I was still at primary school when that happened!
It must be quite hard to really give it all in training with all the press saying you're about to walk your next game and win the tournament.
What is the possible question that Wilshire is the answer to?
That's not the best call.
What happened to Greece's economy after that?
When they come across players who actually need to do well, they're embarrassed.
If Crabb and Leadsom stand, there is value in betting on Boris to go out in the first round. He will certainly be struggling to make the final two.
Crabb is clearly a value bet. That's not to say he will win, merely that it would be very foolish to write him off.
Iceland have a rock solid defence with an extremely good, fast counter-attacking (and goalscoring) attack. They won their Qualifying Group and were very close to winning their First Round Group.
They are a very good, well managed side with just enough talent to make an exceptionally good system work. In other words, they are Leicester City.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36639770
If this was cricket the bookies wouldn't be paying out, citing a betting fix...
Or whether they are even in France.
BREAKING: Fitch downgrades U.K. credit rating to 'AA' from 'AA+' on Brexit vote
I think there has to be at least one Leave option in the final two, if not both, and she and Mr Johnson are the best known.
Cash out or stick?
A low-key remainer loudly accepting the result might find it easier to reunite the party and the country and is less likely to make a dog's dinner of exit negotiations or anything else. Moreover with Labour in such desperate straits there is no political need for a showman or a safe candidate. A punt may be taken
My hunch is May will probably get it, but if Crabb stands it would not be surprising to see him make the runoff.
http://www.lemonde.fr/referendum-sur-le-brexit/article/2016/06/27/royaume-uni-le-brexit-peut-il-ne-pas-se-produire_4959221_4872498.html
Cricket faced a similar problem and solved it by banning first class teams from having more than one overseas player per team which worked because few overseas cricket players had EU passports.
So leaving the EU may do wonders for the national side in a few years.
I just can't see her beating Theresa May or any other ranking Cabinet minister.
It's no way to run a country.
It's like watching Arsenal.
And Boris' problem is that we all know what he's capable of - showmanship and vacuity. He's Gordon with a sense of humour and a silly haircut. Better anyone than him.
Winning and, um, winning surely?
For my bet.