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  • Peter Mandelson's old stomping ground gone 70% Leave. LOL!

    To be fair he would have lost that seat and was only saved by HoL
  • RealBritainRealBritain Posts: 255
    AndyJS said:

    "Labour's Chris Bryant says he might punch Ed Miliband 'because he's a tosspot'."

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/23/eu-referendum-will-it-be-brexit-exit-poll-and-results-live/

    Foolish.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 127,356
    Midlothian Remain 62%
  • AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340

    SeanT said:

    I'm touched by those who have been asking after me. I've been packing to flee the country tomorrow.

    I have, however, found time to keep backing Leave at regular intervals tonight. The prices are incomprehensible.

    It will provide some minor compensation for having my country torn away from me.

    I'm relieved that you agree on the prices - I thought I must be going mad.
    I'd not put too much at stake on this referendum till tonight but I'm rapidly rethinking what it is appropriate to commit.
    Best bet is to move to Jobbik's Hungary, mate. Where they are more cosmopolitan.
    Enjoy your evening. Tonight is a night for Leavers to exult. The lunatics are taking over the asylum. We shall have to hope against all logic that it sort of works out ok.
    How long are we going to have to wait before you calm down too?
    I'm going to ration my use of "I told you so" in the coming months and years. But not very tightly.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 83,873
    Floater said:

    Telegraph says leading pollster says "Brexit most likely result now"

    Well thats Remain who have won it then...by a landslide ;-)
  • John_N4John_N4 Posts: 553
    The pound is jumping up.
  • PongPong Posts: 4,693
    edited June 2016
    The scale of this leave victory will surprise.

    24/1 on remain 40-45 & 100/1 on Remain <40 are fantastic bets.

    THis is the mother of all betting tips.

    I've maxed out my overdraft.
  • MortimerMortimer Posts: 14,202
    Question for counting observers

    In recount, do rejected papers get reconsidered?
  • WandererWanderer Posts: 3,838
    edited June 2016
    MikeL said:

    BBC: Birmingham - Remain between 55 and 60

    That's actually good for Remain, if true (vs Hanretty, I mean)
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 54,784

    stjohn said:

    I think "the market" feels that the big cities will pull it round for REMAIN. But no-one here seems to think so. I can't call it myself.

    But Newcastle didn't. Heard bad rumours about Sheffield.
    Leeds will be interesting too.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 65,763

    Peter Mandelson's old stomping ground gone 70% Leave. LOL!

    To be fair he would have lost that seat and was only saved by HoL
    Pass the guacamole.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 79,375

    This is a revolution.

    But not against the EU...

    Britain will be torn apart by this.
    Calm the fuck down, and get a grip.

    This "us" versus "them" stuff is no longer helpful.

    We all need to pull together now and make it work.
    I'm not pulling together with people who court xenophobia. Absolutely not.
    He's behind you !
  • SimonStClareSimonStClare Posts: 7,976
    edited June 2016
    Basildon. another big OUT 68.6%
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Merthyr Tydfil — Leave 56%
    Stockton — Leave 62%
  • weejonnieweejonnie Posts: 3,820

    hunchman said:

    Birmingham 55-60% remain apparently

    That's a very big spread.
    Andy's forecast is 58.57
  • PlatoSaidPlatoSaid Posts: 10,383
    Merthyr votes Leave
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 127,356
    Renfrewshire Remain 65% Leave 35%
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 62,710

    SeanT said:

    I'm touched by those who have been asking after me. I've been packing to flee the country tomorrow.

    I have, however, found time to keep backing Leave at regular intervals tonight. The prices are incomprehensible.

    It will provide some minor compensation for having my country torn away from me.

    I'm relieved that you agree on the prices - I thought I must be going mad.
    I'd not put too much at stake on this referendum till tonight but I'm rapidly rethinking what it is appropriate to commit.
    Best bet is to move to Jobbik's Hungary, mate. Where they are more cosmopolitan.
    Enjoy your evening. Tonight is a night for Leavers to exult. The lunatics are taking over the asylum. We shall have to hope against all logic that it sort of works out ok.
    How long are we going to have to wait before you calm down too?
    I'm going to ration my use of "I told you so" in the coming months and years. But not very tightly.
    Be a nice idea if, having lost, you now bring the best of yourself to the new political reality to make it the best possible success.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 98,725

    Britain Elects ‏@britainelects 2m2 minutes ago
    Basildon, #EUref result:
    Remain: 31.4% (30,748)
    Leave: 68.6% (67,251)

    Par for Remain was 37%

    Pretty big if repeated.
    No coming back for Remain. London cannot save this
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 53,929

    This is a revolution.

    But not against the EU...

    Britain will be torn apart by this.
    Calm the fuck down, and get a grip.

    This "us" versus "them" stuff is no longer helpful.

    We all need to pull together now and make it work.
    I'm not pulling together with people who court xenophobia. Absolutely not.
    Sore Loserman?
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 27,573
    Wanderer said:

    MikeL said:

    BBC: Birmingham - Remain between 55 and 60

    That's actually good for Remain, if true (vs Hanretty, I mean)
    Andy's spreadsheet has Remain 58.57% in Birmingham.
  • RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 30,011
    Leaving our Stockton count now. Actually not as bad as it looked on the tables....
  • LowlanderLowlander Posts: 941
    Everyone expecting Scotland or NI or even Gibraltar to swing the result.

    It seems that its the North East of England that has done it.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 59,708
    Pong said:

    The scale of this leave victory will surprise.

    24/1 on remain 40-45 & 100/1 on Remain

    I think you'll lose your shirt my friend. Given where London and the Metropolitans are looking, I think it's looking like a clear Leave 50-53%.
  • CornishBlueCornishBlue Posts: 840

    This is a revolution.

    It might be, Mr.Royale, it is certainly shaping up to be the biggest bloody nose the establishment has received since 1945.
    It is Counter-1945.
  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    Leave have won.
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 27,573
    We haven't seen anything from Yorkshire, NW, SW, Wales yet.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 62,710

    This is a revolution.

    But not against the EU...

    Britain will be torn apart by this.
    Calm the fuck down, and get a grip.

    This "us" versus "them" stuff is no longer helpful.

    We all need to pull together now and make it work.
    I'm not pulling together with people who court xenophobia. Absolutely not.
    Grow up.
  • taffystaffys Posts: 9,753
    Merthyr votes Leave

    Cymru am byth!!
  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 20,245
    Do we think every single council in Scotland will vote to remain?
  • pbr2013pbr2013 Posts: 649
    How much does Jeremy Vine get paid for this?
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 83,873
    Well BBC have made this stupidly complex representation.
  • HurstLlamaHurstLlama Posts: 9,098

    This is a revolution.

    But not against the EU...

    Britain will be torn apart by this.
    Calm the fuck down, and get a grip.

    This "us" versus "them" stuff is no longer helpful.

    We all need to pull together now and make it work.
    I'm not pulling together with people who court xenophobia. Absolutely not.
    Well to be honest, Mr. Meeks, if you are not prepared to help the UK work and make its way in the world, then feck off to some country that you are happier to live in.
  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    PlatoSaid said:

    Merthyr votes Leave

    Gap in the par spreadsheet was only meant to be -0.5%
  • MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,773
    All Vine needs to do is tell us how many areas have beaten "par".

    And total vs par for declared areas.
  • nunununu Posts: 6,024
    North east looking like safe tory blue....
  • GravitationGravitation Posts: 287
    kle4 said:

    Britain Elects ‏@britainelects 2m2 minutes ago
    Basildon, #EUref result:
    Remain: 31.4% (30,748)
    Leave: 68.6% (67,251)

    Par for Remain was 37%

    Pretty big if repeated.
    No coming back for Remain. London cannot save this
    Particularly with turnout depressed, even if just by 2-3 points as Prof Curtice thought.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited June 2016
    I voted Remain in the end so I'm a bit surprised by what's happening. (Not that I thought my vote would be important, just feels odd).
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 54,784
    John_N4 said:

    The pound is jumping up.

    Probably just catching up with the Isles of Scilly result.....
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 62,710

    Lowlander said:

    Pulpstar said:

    AndyJS said:

    East Ayrshire:

    Remain wins but only with 50.7%

    Blimey.
    East Ayrshire is Kilmarnock and lots and lots of very poor former mining towns. Its a surprise but not that much of one.
    This is good. If Scotland is closer to the UK baseline it makes it much easier to craft a result that both nations can accept.

    London is going to be pissed come what may.
    I don't think Scotland can be reconciled to exit. Given the massive discrepancy in results, I don't even think, in the future, that London may be, without some sort of special arrangement.

    These are very grave implications for the future of the entire U.K, and not just partisanship.
    Scotland gets more devolved powers. Easy.
  • RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 30,011
    I still don't think my lot understand what has happened to them...
  • SimonStClareSimonStClare Posts: 7,976
    pbr2013 said:

    How much does Jeremy Vine get paid for this?

    Too much, but at least he's dithched the cowboy suit.
  • AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340

    SeanT said:

    I'm touched by those who have been asking after me. I've been packing to flee the country tomorrow.

    I have, however, found time to keep backing Leave at regular intervals tonight. The prices are incomprehensible.

    It will provide some minor compensation for having my country torn away from me.

    I'm relieved that you agree on the prices - I thought I must be going mad.
    I'd not put too much at stake on this referendum till tonight but I'm rapidly rethinking what it is appropriate to commit.
    Best bet is to move to Jobbik's Hungary, mate. Where they are more cosmopolitan.
    Enjoy your evening. Tonight is a night for Leavers to exult. The lunatics are taking over the asylum. We shall have to hope against all logic that it sort of works out ok.
    How long are we going to have to wait before you calm down too?
    I'm going to ration my use of "I told you so" in the coming months and years. But not very tightly.
    Be a nice idea if, having lost, you now bring the best of yourself to the new political reality to make it the best possible success.
    This is your fantasy, not mine. You make it work if you can. Don't expect me to write the cheque for it either.

    I look forward to finding out what the plan is at some point.
  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    hunchman said:

    Stockton 62% leave

    much better for LEAVE
  • John_MJohn_M Posts: 7,503
    BBC coverage is literally gibberish to this tired, slightly drunk observer.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 83,873
    The % are only half the story, we need turn out....
  • PlatoSaidPlatoSaid Posts: 10,383
    AndyJS said:

    "Labour's Chris Bryant says he might punch Ed Miliband 'because he's a tosspot'."

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/23/eu-referendum-will-it-be-brexit-exit-poll-and-results-live/

    :lol:
  • MortimerMortimer Posts: 14,202
    MikeL said:

    All Vine needs to do is tell us how many areas have beaten "par".

    And total vs par for declared areas.

    Yeh quite - PB should offer to present the next election.....
  • MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,773
    11 results in England so far:

    9 Leave
    2 Remain (including Scilly)
  • CornishBlueCornishBlue Posts: 840
    John_N4 said:

    The pound is jumping up.

    Good buying opportunity following an over-reaction?
  • weejonnieweejonnie Posts: 3,820
    Old Labour have read The Sun - and are going to wake up and find they are strong.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 127,356

    kle4 said:

    Britain Elects ‏@britainelects 2m2 minutes ago
    Basildon, #EUref result:
    Remain: 31.4% (30,748)
    Leave: 68.6% (67,251)

    Par for Remain was 37%

    Pretty big if repeated.
    No coming back for Remain. London cannot save this
    Particularly with turnout depressed, even if just by 2-3 points as Prof Curtice thought.
    There is little evidence it is that depressed, Richmond on Thames 82% turnout, Lambeth up on general election etc
  • OUTOUT Posts: 569

    Do we think every single council in Scotland will vote to remain?

    Yup.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 51,357
    Mortimer said:

    Question for counting observers

    In recount, do rejected papers get reconsidered?

    Not normally. There are two types of recount - a bundle check, which is basically checking that all the bundles are in the right pile and with a flick through to confirm that they are all of votes for the correct party, and a full recount, where basically the whole count is redone from scratch.
  • GravitationGravitation Posts: 287
    Map of the country covered by blue and yellow blobs.

    Could be from a 19th century general election.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 24,491
    edited June 2016
    pbr2013 said:

    How much does Jeremy Vine get paid for this?

    Far too much. A conclusion that is always true.
  • Cashed out. +£5oo remain, +£1500 leave. Really think Remain might whisker this. Too stressful!
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 62,710
    MikeL said:

    BBC: Birmingham - Remain between 55 and 60

    Better for Remain.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 31,042

    Lowlander said:

    Pulpstar said:

    AndyJS said:

    East Ayrshire:

    Remain wins but only with 50.7%

    Blimey.
    East Ayrshire is Kilmarnock and lots and lots of very poor former mining towns. Its a surprise but not that much of one.
    This is good. If Scotland is closer to the UK baseline it makes it much easier to craft a result that both nations can accept.

    London is going to be pissed come what may.
    I don't think Scotland can be reconciled to exit. Given the massive discrepancy in results, I don't even think, in the future, that London may be, without some sort of special arrangement.

    These are very grave implications for the future of the entire U.K, and not just partisanship.
    Scotland gets more devolved powers. Easy.
    Federation into Scotland, Wales, England, Northern Ireland, and London.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 55,270

    Do we think every single council in Scotland will vote to remain?

    Maybe not in the Scottish Borders or Dumfries & Galloway. Otherwise yes.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 65,763
    LATEST REUTERS CALCULATION:
    Leave 50.2%, Remain 49.9%
    This is based on 15 areas of 382 reporting and the BBC's most recent figures on the vote in Northern Ireland, which is the largest reporting area by population in the UK.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 98,725
    HYUFD said:

    kle4 said:

    Britain Elects ‏@britainelects 2m2 minutes ago
    Basildon, #EUref result:
    Remain: 31.4% (30,748)
    Leave: 68.6% (67,251)

    Par for Remain was 37%

    Pretty big if repeated.
    No coming back for Remain. London cannot save this
    Particularly with turnout depressed, even if just by 2-3 points as Prof Curtice thought.
    There is little evidence it is that depressed, Richmond on Thames 82% turnout, Lambeth up on general election etc
    The important point is the excuses have started. It was ☓ it was y. The premise is Remain have lost.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 127,356

    SeanT said:

    I'm touched by those who have been asking after me. I've been packing to flee the country tomorrow.

    I have, however, found time to keep backing Leave at regular intervals tonight. The prices are incomprehensible.

    It will provide some minor compensation for having my country torn away from me.

    I'm relieved that you agree on the prices - I thought I must be going mad.
    I'd not put too much at stake on this referendum till tonight but I'm rapidly rethinking what it is appropriate to commit.
    Best bet is to move to Jobbik's Hungary, mate. Where they are more cosmopolitan.
    Enjoy your evening. Tonight is a night for Leavers to exult. The lunatics are taking over the asylum. We shall have to hope against all logic that it sort of works out ok.
    How long are we going to have to wait before you calm down too?
    I'm going to ration my use of "I told you so" in the coming months and years. But not very tightly.
    Oh for goodness sake, there is a long way to go yet
  • SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 40,040

    SeanT said:

    I'm touched by those who have been asking after me. I've been packing to flee the country tomorrow.

    I have, however, found time to keep backing Leave at regular intervals tonight. The prices are incomprehensible.

    It will provide some minor compensation for having my country torn away from me.

    I'm relieved that you agree on the prices - I thought I must be going mad.
    I'd not put too much at stake on this referendum till tonight but I'm rapidly rethinking what it is appropriate to commit.
    Best bet is to move to Jobbik's Hungary, mate. Where they are more cosmopolitan.
    Enjoy your evening. Tonight is a night for Leavers to exult. The lunatics are taking over the asylum. We shall have to hope against all logic that it sort of works out ok.
    How long are we going to have to wait before you calm down too?
    I'm going to ration my use of "I told you so" in the coming months and years. But not very tightly.
    Be a nice idea if, having lost, you now bring the best of yourself to the new political reality to make it the best possible success.

    The best thing now is for Leave to take the reins. Cameron and Osborne are done for, and firm leadership is now going to be vital. The economy has to be held as stable as possible, a Brexit deal has to be done and millions of Leave voters have to be kept onside.

  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,579

    MikeL said:

    BBC: Birmingham - Remain between 55 and 60

    Better for Remain.
    Turnout is crucial.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 127,356
    Merthyr Tydfil votes leave
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,421

    Map of the country covered by blue and yellow blobs.

    Could be from a 19th century general election.

    Full of rotten boroughs with a million electors only returning one member. Just like old times ;)
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 51,357
    Scotland seems to be counting its ballots a lot quicker than England, for some reason?
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 54,784
    If Corbyn had backed Leave, he would have owned this result.

    Muppet.
  • ChameleonChameleon Posts: 4,264
    Wanderer said:

    MikeL said:

    BBC: Birmingham - Remain between 55 and 60

    That's actually good for Remain, if true (vs Hanretty, I mean)
    It's on par. On par will not be good enough for remain.
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @georgeeaton: Remain blame game now in full swing - usually a reliable indicator of defeat.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 127,356
    Rochford Leave 67% Remain 33%
  • KentRisingKentRising Posts: 2,918
    Rochford 67% leave.
  • surbitonsurbiton Posts: 13,549
    Problems: Scotland voting heavily for Remain.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 62,710

    SeanT said:

    I'm touched by those who have been asking after me. I've been packing to flee the country tomorrow.

    I have, however, found time to keep backing Leave at regular intervals tonight. The prices are incomprehensible.

    It will provide some minor compensation for having my country torn away from me.

    I'm relieved that you agree on the prices - I thought I must be going mad.
    I'd not put too much at stake on this referendum till tonight but I'm rapidly rethinking what it is appropriate to commit.
    Best bet is to move to Jobbik's Hungary, mate. Where they are more cosmopolitan.
    Enjoy your evening. Tonight is a night for Leavers to exult. The lunatics are taking over the asylum. We shall have to hope against all logic that it sort of works out ok.
    How long are we going to have to wait before you calm down too?
    I'm going to ration my use of "I told you so" in the coming months and years. But not very tightly.
    Be a nice idea if, having lost, you now bring the best of yourself to the new political reality to make it the best possible success.
    This is your fantasy, not mine. You make it work if you can. Don't expect me to write the cheque for it either.

    I look forward to finding out what the plan is at some point.
    Maybe once you've finished your childish strop (you lost, deal with it) we'll hear more from the sensible rational Alastair that still has a huge contribution to make.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 59,708

    LATEST REUTERS CALCULATION:
    Leave 50.2%, Remain 49.9%
    This is based on 15 areas of 382 reporting and the BBC's most recent figures on the vote in Northern Ireland, which is the largest reporting area by population in the UK.

    I think it'll be 51-52% Leave.

    Scotland on my numbers will be 61% Remain.
  • AnneJGPAnneJGP Posts: 3,471
    Any TV coverage of EU representatives? Or are they sleeping peacefully?
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,421
    IanB2 said:

    Scotland seems to be counting its ballots a lot quicker than England, for some reason?

    Had a lot of practice recently ;)
  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737

    PlatoSaid said:

    Merthyr votes Leave

    Gap in the par spreadsheet was only meant to be -0.5%
    much better for LEAVE
  • SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 40,040

    MikeL said:

    BBC: Birmingham - Remain between 55 and 60

    Better for Remain.

    It will be closer to 50% than 60%.

  • DearPBDearPB Posts: 439
    I think it's extraordinary how uninterested in data and detail the BBC thinks it's viewers are. If you're up in the middle of the night then you're a geek.
  • CornishBlueCornishBlue Posts: 840
    surbiton said:

    Problems: Scotland voting heavily for Remain.

    Solution: no one lives in Scotland (relative to mighty England & Wales)
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited June 2016
    Wanderer said:

    MikeL said:

    BBC: Birmingham - Remain between 55 and 60

    That's actually good for Remain, if true (vs Hanretty, I mean)
    I don't understand how Hanretty got such a low figure for Remain in Birmingham. Always looked a bit suspect IMO.
  • tysontyson Posts: 6,121

    SeanT said:

    I'm touched by those who have been asking after me. I've been packing to flee the country tomorrow.

    I have, however, found time to keep backing Leave at regular intervals tonight. The prices are incomprehensible.

    It will provide some minor compensation for having my country torn away from me.

    I'm relieved that you agree on the prices - I thought I must be going mad.
    I'd not put too much at stake on this referendum till tonight but I'm rapidly rethinking what it is appropriate to commit.
    Best bet is to move to Jobbik's Hungary, mate. Where they are more cosmopolitan.
    Enjoy your evening. Tonight is a night for Leavers to exult. The lunatics are taking over the asylum. We shall have to hope against all logic that it sort of works out ok.
    How long are we going to have to wait before you calm down too?
    I'm going to ration my use of "I told you so" in the coming months and years. But not very tightly.
    Be a nice idea if, having lost, you now bring the best of yourself to the new political reality to make it the best possible success.
    In a much poorer country which will see a catastrophic economic shock and poor prospects.

    You know all the stuff that Osborne said about the economy...it's going to be worse.
  • PlatoSaidPlatoSaid Posts: 10,383
    John_M said:

    BBC coverage is literally gibberish to this tired, slightly drunk observer.

    Pah, you lightweight. I've just opened fizz number two and full of beans! This is all so unexpected and so much fun
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 83,873
    viewcode said:

    pbr2013 said:

    How much does Jeremy Vine get paid for this?

    Far too much. A conclusion that is always true.
    And of course in a tax efficient manner....
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 51,357
    edited June 2016
    kle4 said:

    HYUFD said:

    kle4 said:

    Britain Elects ‏@britainelects 2m2 minutes ago
    Basildon, #EUref result:
    Remain: 31.4% (30,748)
    Leave: 68.6% (67,251)

    Par for Remain was 37%

    Pretty big if repeated.
    No coming back for Remain. London cannot save this
    Particularly with turnout depressed, even if just by 2-3 points as Prof Curtice thought.
    There is little evidence it is that depressed, Richmond on Thames 82% turnout, Lambeth up on general election etc
    The important point is the excuses have started. It was ☓ it was y. The premise is Remain have lost.
    Ok, but the weather hit the north and east particularly? (Edit/reply to previous comment in the thread)
  • pbr2013pbr2013 Posts: 649

    We haven't seen anything from Yorkshire, NW, SW, Wales yet.

    Merthyr Leave
  • John_N4John_N4 Posts: 553
    edited June 2016
    Very surprising result in the Western isles: Remain 55%. That can only be down to people believing the SNP. I was wrong to say they would certainly back Leave.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 98,725
    Scott posting tweets about the remain actions being those of a defeat. An omen.
  • John_MJohn_M Posts: 7,503
    surbiton said:

    Problems: Scotland voting heavily for Remain.

    In the event of Brexit, I think Scotland can be solved. I have no idea what would happen with London. Stupid referendums :/
  • MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,773
    Remain is nowhere in England outside metropolitan areas.
  • WandererWanderer Posts: 3,838
    Chameleon said:

    Wanderer said:

    MikeL said:

    BBC: Birmingham - Remain between 55 and 60

    That's actually good for Remain, if true (vs Hanretty, I mean)
    It's on par. On par will not be good enough for remain.
    Well, Hanretty has Remain 3.6% behind, so it's better than his "par".
  • FloaterFloater Posts: 14,207

    This is a revolution.

    But not against the EU...

    Britain will be torn apart by this.
    Calm the fuck down, and get a grip.

    This "us" versus "them" stuff is no longer helpful.

    We all need to pull together now and make it work.
    I'm not pulling together with people who court xenophobia. Absolutely not.
    Well to be honest, Mr. Meeks, if you are not prepared to help the UK work and make its way in the world, then feck off to some country that you are happier to live in.
    Well said Mr Llama
  • GideonWiseGideonWise Posts: 1,123
    Did anyone manage to get in on the 16.0 odds from earlier?
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