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This piece isn’t an attempt to make John Rentoul’s QTWTAIN list, again, but The Daily Telegraph has reported that Ed Miliband is considering a return to Jeremy Corbyn’s shadow cabinet. The Telegraph report says
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(Skybet also have Gordon Brown and Tony Blair on offer at the same odds!)
"Tory MP Andrew Bridgen says David Cameron is 'finished' as party leader"
"David Cameron and George Osborne 'too rich' to care about migration, claims cabinet minister Priti Patel"
Expect plenty more of this.
They've already given their verdict on Mr Miliband once - not up to it - and will be irritated to have the same proposal made again
As long as we can have the #edstone back too!
Boris and Gove lash Cameron on immigration ......
Letter accuses PM of ‘corroding public trust’
Expect LEAVE to concentrate on immigration, immigration, immigration non-stop for the final three weeks of the referendum campaign.
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When the Left Liberal progressive minority go off on one about people complaining about immigration, the bulk of the country will roll their eyes and get on with life... until they vote.
If The Tories did split in June 2016, I'm unsure that Miliband would seen as a PM in waiting. It begs the question why did he resign so quickly in May 2015 and let Corbyn in.
'Insanity is doing the same thing twice in the expectation of a different result.'
Surely even Labour couldn't be so cretinous as to replace 'I lived in a million pound Shropshire mansion and went to a posh state school so I get ordinary people' Corbyn with 'I lived in a million pound London mansion and went to a posh state school so I get ordinary people and had Labour's third worst result in the age of universal suffrage' Miliband? I mean, whatever deal Osborne has cut with Beelzebub couldn't run to that. Could it? Or has Tim Farron got in on the act as well?
PS aren't you a bit harsh on dwarfs? More like the tallest pygmy shrew.
However you look at it, it was an absolutely terrible performance. Mind you, Labour appear determined to do even worse next time.
.@AndrewBridgenMP saying today that the PM is "finished" and would face a coup (needs 50 MPs) even if there's a narrow win for Remain #EUref
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We have Ukip campaigning for Leave, an action that will render them all redundant.
And we also have the majority of MPs at Westminster and the devolved parliaments campaigning for Remain. If successful, an action which will render them all redundant, although on a longer timescale.
Three cheers for them all.
Not to say it's right or wrong but it's what will win it for them if they win.
I thought the whole idea of Vote Leave getting the nod was to attract more than just the Faragist anti immigration core vote 30%
Gove 2013: "The PM has struck exactly the right note on migration"
Boris 2013: "I’m the only politician willing to say he’s pro-immigration"
149 000 non EU migrants last year. Not much impact on stopping those with the new visa rules etc was there? On that alone the Tories have failed - and May at the Home Office most of all.
Assuming that some EU migrants are either needed, or the work that our Greek Doctors and Portuguese Nurses do is replaced by more non-EU migration, then after Brexit we should expect 200 000 to 250 000 new migrants each year.
As well as sharing the incredulous mirth of others regarding the prospect of Miliband 2, does he even want to be leader again? It's not that long ago he was slaughtered in the polls and resigned.
Corbyn thinking Miliband will help restore his credibility depends on the audience. With Labour? Maybe. With the public? No.
That said, Miliband would still be a better option than Watson.
EURef is allowing that debate to take place.
It would be a shame if the legitimate debate about immigration ended up with the UK bringing down the temple around us by leaving the EU.
If we view this from the perspective of Labour working class voters, they are being asked to also vote for:-
1. More immigration
2. Keep Cameron and Osborne in office
It is just not a good political situation for REMAIN.
Not to excuse the promise, that said.
Labour will either regain its sanity or morph into the 'Real SWP'.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-36407562
#AskingForAFriend
Note that TSE isn't predicting it would happen, just that it would start to look more likely, making it a good trading bet. That might well be true, but you'd probably need to wait to 2020 or later to execute it.
Incidentally, there's a good, balanced piece on the Chakrabarti anti-Semitism enquiry where you might not expect it, wrestling with the question of when criticism of Israel shares into anti-semitism:
https://www.morningstaronline.co.uk/a-8995-Unravelling-the-charge-of-Labour-Party-anti-semitism#.V0qUF3n2apo
For instance the concerns from the Art industry that I trailed a few days ago got a bit of coverage but have now disappeared from the news cycle. They are an important, high value industry - just not of much interest to journalists looking for copy
But leaving the EU isn't going to bring the temple down.
We'll do just fine.
http://www.natcen.ac.uk/news-media/press-releases/2014/january/more-than-3-in-4-want-reduction-in-immigration/
#PracticalRealitiesOfLife
To solely campaign on that for the next few weeks to the exclusion of anything else is to throw the baby out with the bathwater.
Looking back it seems if Remain does win as expected then Obama's intervention could have been critical. Not in isolation but until then Leave had some great lines about how we would be better off economically as an nation open to trading to the whole global economy rather than tied to a small sclerotic and shrinking part of it. After Obama though Leave seems to have given up on winning the economic argument. That is a tragedy.
"And there's also the point that Ed actually knows the environment brief."
He certainly does. I retired in 2010 and with my small lump sum, I bought solar panels because of Ed's largesse. The best deal I've ever done in my life. Money for old rope, as they say. They pay me even if I use all the electricity myself. Index-linked and going up with inflation for another twenty years.
He may have known the environment brief, but he has no idea about economics. To all UK taxpayers and to Ed, I say ... Cheers and thanks a lot.
"Is this Ed Miliband’s route back to the Labour leadership?"
Cheers Mr Eagle, best Sunday morning laugh out loud for quite a while.
Would mean the immigration obsessives are out of touch with the country, after spending years telling us liberal metropolitan elite types that we were the ones out of touch.
Quite a few Tories lining up for a go at the PM in today's papers, one gets the feeling that if the referendum result is any closer than 60:40 he's going to be a lame duck in Parliament, unable to pass anything except spending cuts.
Although to be fair the latter could hardly be termed sport as he is such a total dullard he makes makes Bridgen appear Churchillian in political acumen.
That's a really good use of taxpayer funds...
The two GP2 races on Friday and yesterday didn't feature one, the Monégasque marshals are the best in the world and managed to clear a dozen wrecked cars during the two races under the VSC. It seems that the organisers won't deploy the SC unless they really need to, so a big first corner shunt or if they need to send rescue or medical care onto the track. Caveat: it might rain.
Who the fuck is Andrew Bridgen?
Ah diddums, did the nasty man hurt your feelings during the #EUref?
You're like the fucking Lib Dems, shocked to discover the PM fights to win and exactly how few people care about your obsession
Asylum applications have also bumped up 30% this year.
Hmm. Interesting tip, though.
"That's a really good use of taxpayer funds... "
I totally agree. I'm not a Greeny, I'm a Greedy, but I'm also a taxpayer. It was my chance to recoup something, The whole idea was bonkers, but if the Government was determined to squander taxpayers money, I'll join the queue for the handout.
The timing was perfect. Do I go on a cruise, or do I grab free money. I know, I'll do the latter and have the cruise in the future.
I'm going to bed now.
That's my job and I dont want you muscling in.
Surely it must have been something so abominable and egregious that the poor folk of that pitiable constituency are so blighted, a toxic wasteland such as to be considered the Chernobyl of British political life.
Pray for them this Sunday ....
Obviously not suitable before the lagershed
Odds are hefty, though.
Edited extra bit: decided to put a small sum on.
Which does raise some questions.
Poll shows 88% of 600 experts fear long-term fall in GDP if UK leaves single market, and 82% are alarmed over impact on household income
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/may/28/economists-reject-brexit-boost-cameron
They cheered Cameron to the rafters then. No praise was too high, no amount of gratitude was too much and no accolade unworthy. Cameron had seen off voting reform, Salmond's independence threat, Ed and Nick in short measure and delivered a totally unexpected majority government. And more, he provided the EU referendum they craved.
But now it's Boo, Hiss. Dave the EU devil incarnate is the panto villain par excellence.
He's behind you .....
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/politics/7181963/Brexiters-plan-shootout-with-David-Cameron-after-Referendum.html
I get the point of trying to preemptively head off a purge but if Remain wins, I'm having a hard time seeing the majority of the Tory parliamentary party voting to ditch the leader who just proved he has the voters on his side, especially since he'll be going soon anyhow. In which case they make their move, Cameron beats them and has a perfect excuse to take revenge on the rebels.