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Quite.MattW said:
Given that he's a media Prof, he'd be better off spending his time trying to salvage Oxford University from the reputation they are building for moral cowardice:Luckyguy1983 said:
Could be. I'd always thought it was because he's clearly a huge nerd yet has this rather delusional 'I'm making science cool' schtick going on. Surely you'd have to have some cool in the first place to be donating any of it to physics.logical_song said:
It's probably because he's much too logical and scientific about things and has a sense of humour.Luckyguy1983 said:
Oh good, I knew I detested him for some reason.Scott_P said:Interesting
@ProfBrianCox: I'm fed up with Tory school chums plotting to remove Cameron etc. The UK is not your plaything. You want to change PM, call an election.
https://www.change.org/p/oxford-oxford-university-to-revoke-ntokozo-qwabe-s-scholarship-with-immediate-effect/u/16474811
PS Still trying to find out who these BSE celebrities are..0 -
1 is a bloke with a dodgy past. The other is the President.Richard_Nabavi said:
It's because I'm genuinely gobsmacked at the inconsistency of many Leavers, in this case the palpably bonkers outrage at one US politician 'interfering' and not at another US politician 'interfering'. If I keep repeating my astonishment, it's because I'm so struck by the phenomenon; it really is the most striking thing about the whole referendum.MarkHopkins said:Richard, I don't understand why you repeatedly use insults like 'swivel-eyed' when someone has a different outlook / understanding to you.
Is it because you don't think your argument is strong enough, and so you add the insult?
Or is there another reason?
Although I can 100% guarantee that I'll be misrepresented, let me make clear that I'm not referring to the proposition that Obama shouldn't have commented at all. That's a perfectly reasonable position to take. What is not perfectly reasonable is to be so outraged by one and not the other.
I genuinely don't understand why so many on the Leave side are purblind on issues like this. It's hardly controversial to point out that Trump and Obama were both expressing an opinion on whether the UK should vote for Brexit, and were both expressing an opinion on how hard it would be to negotiate a trade deal with the US. It utterly baffles me that anyone can, with a straight face, argue that only one of those was outrageous.
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And?blackburn63 said:
Batten's wife is from ThailandTheScreamingEagles said:The Nazis drew up the “basic plan” for the European Union decades before it was actually established, a Ukip MEP has claimed.
Gerard Batten on Monday stepped up to defend Boris Johnson, who on Sunday attracted criticism for likening the EU’s aims to those of Adolf Hitler.
Mr Batten however suggested Mr Johnson had actually underplayed the connections between the EU and the Nazis, and that the bloc had “closer links” with the fascists than many realized.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/eu-referendum-nazis-created-basic-plan-for-the-european-union-ukip-mep-gerard-batten-says-a7032221.html0 -
Clowns to the left of you, jokers to the right....Richard_Nabavi said:
It's because I'm genuinely gobsmacked at the inconsistency of many Leavers, in this case the palpably bonkers outrage at one US politician 'interfering' and not at another US politician 'interfering'. If I keep repeating my astonishment, it's because I'm so struck by the phenomenon; it really is the most striking thing about the whole referendum.MarkHopkins said:Richard, I don't understand why you repeatedly use insults like 'swivel-eyed' when someone has a different outlook / understanding to you.
Is it because you don't think your argument is strong enough, and so you add the insult?
Or is there another reason?
Although I can 100% guarantee that I'll be misrepresented, let me make clear that I'm not referring to the proposition that Obama shouldn't have commented at all. That's a perfectly reasonable position to take. What is not perfectly reasonable is to be so outraged by one and not the other.
I genuinely don't understand why so many on the Leave side are purblind on issues like this. It's hardly controversial to point out that Trump and Obama were both expressing an opinion on whether the UK should vote for Brexit, and were both expressing an opinion on how hard it would be to negotiate a trade deal with the US. It utterly baffles me that anyone can, with a straight face, argue that only one of those was outrageous.0 -
Chortle, however last week he got very cross with me when I ridiculed his claims to be an "independent thinker".Luckyguy1983 said:Our eloquent poster Nabavi
Though on betting, he's really quite savvy
Has political views,
So Cameron-enthused,
We file them all straight in the lavvy0 -
And nothing, its the only thing I know about him.TheScreamingEagles said:
And?blackburn63 said:
Batten's wife is from ThailandTheScreamingEagles said:The Nazis drew up the “basic plan” for the European Union decades before it was actually established, a Ukip MEP has claimed.
Gerard Batten on Monday stepped up to defend Boris Johnson, who on Sunday attracted criticism for likening the EU’s aims to those of Adolf Hitler.
Mr Batten however suggested Mr Johnson had actually underplayed the connections between the EU and the Nazis, and that the bloc had “closer links” with the fascists than many realized.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/eu-referendum-nazis-created-basic-plan-for-the-european-union-ukip-mep-gerard-batten-says-a7032221.html
Well done though, good to see you paying attention, good boy.0 -
Luckyguy1983 said:
Our eloquent poster Nabavi
Though on betting, he's really quite savvy
Has political views,
So Cameron-enthused,
We file them all straight in the lavvy
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Good afternoon all. Tried to put a modest £20 on Cammo doing the disappearing trick at 16/1 at my local Paddy Power and they said, nothing doing; we ain't got such a bet. Sigh.
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So I read on here today from Mr Meeks that with regard to immigrant labour the laws of supply and demand may not apply to the price labour gets.
So tear up those economic text books here is the great Mr Meeks who has cast doubt on one of the few rules of economics that used to be regarded as a fact until along came Mr Meeks.
A real WTF moment. This is of course an emotive point for those poor feckers who know people that have seen their wages cut through the use of imported labour.....
Here is the text from wikipedia which may now need to be re-written......
" For example, assume that someone invents a better way of growing wheat so that the cost of growing a given quantity of wheat decreases. Otherwise stated, producers will be willing to supply more wheat at every price and this shifts the supply curve S1 outward, to S2—an increase in supply. This increase in supply causes the equilibrium price to decrease from P1 to P2."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supply_and_demand0 -
I feel rather coarse for using the word lavvy, but if he will insist on having such a hard to rhyme nick.blackburn63 said:
Chortle, however last week he got very cross with me when I ridiculed his claims to be an "independent thinker".Luckyguy1983 said:Our eloquent poster Nabavi
Though on betting, he's really quite savvy
Has political views,
So Cameron-enthused,
We file them all straight in the lavvy
I missed his post about being an independent thinker - brilliant!0 -
With friends like Mr Batten, Boris really doesn't need enemies.TheScreamingEagles said:The Nazis drew up the “basic plan” for the European Union decades before it was actually established, a Ukip MEP has claimed.
Gerard Batten on Monday stepped up to defend Boris Johnson, who on Sunday attracted criticism for likening the EU’s aims to those of Adolf Hitler.
Mr Batten however suggested Mr Johnson had actually underplayed the connections between the EU and the Nazis, and that the bloc had “closer links” with the fascists than many realized.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/eu-referendum-nazis-created-basic-plan-for-the-european-union-ukip-mep-gerard-batten-says-a7032221.html0 -
Why not *innocent face*?TheScreamingEagles said:
New PB rule, no use of acronyms involving Boris Johnson's initials.MaxPB said:
Boris Johnson Will Never Be PM.TheScreamingEagles said:
Well if Boris is Tory leader in April 2020, is certain.MaxPB said:
Agreed. Maybe he could bring Hitler up in, I don't know, April 2020?TheScreamingEagles said:
I think it's great for Labour to let him back into the party.MaxPB said:
Ken is going to be let back into the party isn't he.TheScreamingEagles said:Hmmm
Labour antisemitism inquiry will not seek evidence from Ken Livingstone
Chair Shami Chakrabarti says she will not ‘positively solicit’ a submission and that she joined party on day she was appointed
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/may/16/labour-antisemitism-inquiry-shami-chakrabarti-not-seek-evidence-from-ken-livingstone
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Stop shifting the goalposts. Mr Meeks suggested that the elderly are more worried than the young about immigration. You disputed that. I posted a link to a poll showing that about 40% of the elderly consider immigration an important issue as opposed to about 22% of youth, thus supporting Mr Meeks' suggestion. That's all.Tykejohnno said:
The blame lies with the government of the day and people like you who thinks everything is ok when immigration comes top of most polls of people concerns.FeersumEnjineeya said:
I suspect that the blame for your frustration lies with your evident cognitive deficiencies rather than immigrants.Tykejohnno said:
And you can shove your supposed impartial survey up your @rse,I live with the real consequences of poor mass immigration of the last few years.FeersumEnjineeya said:
You'll forgive me if I give more credence to an impartial survey than your incoherent ramblings.Tykejohnno said:
Yep,posters like you,I live the real life of poor mass immigration of the last few years and I can tell you that it isn't just the oldies who are concerned by immigration,its all age groups and British born immigrants.FeersumEnjineeya said:
https://www.ipsos-mori.com/Assets/Docs/Publications/sri-perceptions-and-reality-immigration-report-summary-2013.pdfTykejohnno said:
Your no 1 point is bull and just proves to me you haven't a clue on immigration .AlastairMeeks said:Immigration may or may not hold down wages (the evidence is patchy). It is unlikely to be the main driver of low wage growth in recent years.
In any case, suggesting that this is the vector for Leave's support misses the points that:
1) it is oldies (who are usually retired or shortly to retire) who get most exercised by immigration; and
2) it is people in areas with low immigration who get most exercised by it.
It's all much more explicable by the simpler explanation of xenophobia.
New analysis of Ipsos MORI’s Issues Index also shows the importance of age and
generation to attitudes on immigration (as shown in Figure 11). Each generation was similarly
unconcerned in the mid-1990s, with concern increasing for all in the late 1990s, but at
varying rates. In particular, a generation gap opened up, with the oldest cohort most likely to
be concerned and the youngest least: by 2013, the pre-war generation were nearly twice as
likely as generation Y to consider immigration a problem.
I think this shows who hasn't got a clue.
Nobody has suggested that "everything is OK when immigration comes top of most polls of people concerns." You just made that up.0 -
Ah, was that when you said I was posting my views here to advance my political career?blackburn63 said:Chortle, however last week he got very cross with me when I ridiculed his claims to be an "independent thinker".
No, I didn't get cross, I thought it was absolutely hilarious. Unlike you, I don't have a failed political career to advance, and if I did I wouldn't be posting on here to attempt to advance it.0 -
Agree with most of that but I would even go up to 100k or over if we needed highly skilled immigration .GarethoftheVale2 said:
Alistair I would accept that a small minority of people who are concerned about immigration are xenophobes who don't want any immigration at all but for most people this isn't the case. I would say the main concerns are:Tykejohnno said:
Your no 1 point is bull and just proves to me you haven't a clue on immigration .AlastairMeeks said:Immigration may or may not hold down wages (the evidence is patchy). It is unlikely to be the main driver of low wage growth in recent years.
In any case, suggesting that this is the vector for Leave's support misses the points that:
1) it is oldies (who are usually retired or shortly to retire) who get most exercised by immigration; and
2) it is people in areas with low immigration who get most exercised by it.
It's all much more explicable by the simpler explanation of xenophobia.
1) We have no control over numbers from the EU. If a million more people decided to come here tomorrow there is nothing we could do
2) The perception that people who come over can claim benefits and jump the housing queue before contributing anything
3) It is nigh on impossible to kick out bad apples like Abu Qatada or people who commit crimes
4) The impact on wages and housing costs
If we had an Australian style system and a maximum limit of say 50k per year, then I think immigration would mostly disappear as an issue.0 -
Mr. Llama, I just saw a tweet which amused me. I'm very polite on Twitter, but Sir Edric reserves the right to be sarcastic, which he exercised.
The Guardian chap reckoned all fantasy is implicitly about social justice. Sir Edric took the opportunity to agree with him.0 -
Yes I'm told his wife is far more pleasantNickPalmer said:
With friends like Mr Batten, Boris really doesn't need enemies.TheScreamingEagles said:The Nazis drew up the “basic plan” for the European Union decades before it was actually established, a Ukip MEP has claimed.
Gerard Batten on Monday stepped up to defend Boris Johnson, who on Sunday attracted criticism for likening the EU’s aims to those of Adolf Hitler.
Mr Batten however suggested Mr Johnson had actually underplayed the connections between the EU and the Nazis, and that the bloc had “closer links” with the fascists than many realized.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/eu-referendum-nazis-created-basic-plan-for-the-european-union-ukip-mep-gerard-batten-says-a7032221.html0 -
Because I've still not recovered from Gordon Brown's British Jobs For British WorkersMaxPB said:
Why not *innocent face*?TheScreamingEagles said:
New PB rule, no use of acronyms involving Boris Johnson's initials.MaxPB said:
Boris Johnson Will Never Be PM.TheScreamingEagles said:
Well if Boris is Tory leader in April 2020, is certain.MaxPB said:
Agreed. Maybe he could bring Hitler up in, I don't know, April 2020?TheScreamingEagles said:
I think it's great for Labour to let him back into the party.MaxPB said:
Ken is going to be let back into the party isn't he.TheScreamingEagles said:Hmmm
Labour antisemitism inquiry will not seek evidence from Ken Livingstone
Chair Shami Chakrabarti says she will not ‘positively solicit’ a submission and that she joined party on day she was appointed
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/may/16/labour-antisemitism-inquiry-shami-chakrabarti-not-seek-evidence-from-ken-livingstone
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Oh you should ask him about it, I nearly spilt my Aldi's Lambrini on my laptopLuckyguy1983 said:
I feel rather coarse for using the word lavvy, but if he will insist on having such a hard to rhyme nick.blackburn63 said:
Chortle, however last week he got very cross with me when I ridiculed his claims to be an "independent thinker".Luckyguy1983 said:Our eloquent poster Nabavi
Though on betting, he's really quite savvy
Has political views,
So Cameron-enthused,
We file them all straight in the lavvy
I missed his post about being an independent thinker - brilliant!0 -
One gave an off the cuff remark in an interview and the other came here and had two massive set-pieces with the whole lobby in attendance to denounce Brexit with a script written by Number 10. I'm not sure how they are comparable in anyone's mind but your's Richard.Richard_Nabavi said:
It's because I'm genuinely gobsmacked at the inconsistency of many Leavers, in this case the palpably bonkers outrage at one US politician 'interfering' and not at another US politician 'interfering'. If I keep repeating my astonishment, it's because I'm so struck by the phenomenon; it really is the most striking thing about the whole referendum.MarkHopkins said:Richard, I don't understand why you repeatedly use insults like 'swivel-eyed' when someone has a different outlook / understanding to you.
Is it because you don't think your argument is strong enough, and so you add the insult?
Or is there another reason?
Although I can 100% guarantee that I'll be misrepresented, let me make clear that I'm not referring to the proposition that Obama shouldn't have commented at all. That's a perfectly reasonable position to take. What is not perfectly reasonable is to be so outraged by one and not the other.
I genuinely don't understand why so many on the Leave side are purblind on issues like this. It's hardly controversial to point out that Trump and Obama were both expressing an opinion on whether the UK should vote for Brexit, and were both expressing an opinion on how hard it would be to negotiate a trade deal with the US. It utterly baffles me that anyone can, with a straight face, argue that only one of those was outrageous.0 -
Oh dear oh dear oh dear.
One presumes that the lefties will condemn the latest failure to declare "bussing expenses" as rigorously as they condemned the Tories? No doubt Plod will launch an immediate investigation.
Hat tip Guido and Co.
"On April 4 2015, MPs and activists boarded a Labour Express battle bus to Pudsey in order to help the local campaign there. Labour was bussing activists – “troops” as they called them – to a key marginal seat to knock on doors. This should have been declared in the local campaign spend for the short campaign. As you can see below, it wasn’t…"
http://order-order.com/2016/05/16/two-more-labour-candidates-didnt-declare-election-buses/
Not the first Labour clerical errors either in this area.0 -
"Brexit would cost hundreds of billions, warns Osborne"
Times are flashing up an article.
So we've moved from merely billions to hundreds of billions. Desperate stuff really.0 -
@TSE doesn't like "BJ"s?MaxPB said:
Why not *innocent face*?TheScreamingEagles said:
New PB rule, no use of acronyms involving Boris Johnson's initials.MaxPB said:
Boris Johnson Will Never Be PM.TheScreamingEagles said:
Well if Boris is Tory leader in April 2020, is certain.MaxPB said:
Agreed. Maybe he could bring Hitler up in, I don't know, April 2020?TheScreamingEagles said:
I think it's great for Labour to let him back into the party.MaxPB said:
Ken is going to be let back into the party isn't he.TheScreamingEagles said:Hmmm
Labour antisemitism inquiry will not seek evidence from Ken Livingstone
Chair Shami Chakrabarti says she will not ‘positively solicit’ a submission and that she joined party on day she was appointed
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/may/16/labour-antisemitism-inquiry-shami-chakrabarti-not-seek-evidence-from-ken-livingstone
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No, I suggested TSE had a career to advance and that you were an unthinking sycophantic toady.Richard_Nabavi said:
Ah, was that when you said I was posting my views here to advance my political career?blackburn63 said:Chortle, however last week he got very cross with me when I ridiculed his claims to be an "independent thinker".
No, I didn't get cross, I thought it was absolutely hilarious. Unlike you, I don't have a failed political career to advance, and if I did I wouldn't be posting on here to attempt to advance it.
I'm not sure many sprung to your defence.
Yes, I had a short, fulfilling but failed political career, standing for what you believe in is something that you simply can't reconcile or comprehend. I have nothing to hide or be ashamed of,.
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I hope you are not questioning our @NickPalmer's judgement?Richard_Nabavi said:I don't have a failed political career to advance, and if I did I wouldn't be posting on here to attempt to advance it.
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Oh, they are not comparable in impact, of course.MaxPB said:One gave an off the cuff remark in an interview and the other came here and had two massive set-pieces with the whole lobby in attendance to denounce Brexit with a script written by Number 10. I'm not sure how they are comparable in anyone's mind but your's Richard.
But, there you go again, proving my point about normally sensible people once again: 'a script written by Number 10'.
I mean, really? You think the President of the United States reads out scripts written by Osborne or Cameron? Have you considered the possibility that Obama might simply have been telling it like he sees it?0 -
Mr. Max, it has shades of Dr. Evil.0
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Yes one behaved like a corporate seagull, flew in ate all the food and cr*pped on the place by denigrating us and the other one said he wants to be friends in the face of the insults heaped upon him.MaxPB said:
One gave an off the cuff remark in an interview and the other came here and had two massive set-pieces with the whole lobby in attendance to denounce Brexit with a script written by Number 10. I'm not sure how they are comparable in anyone's mind but your's Richard.Richard_Nabavi said:
It's because I'm genuinely gobsmacked at the inconsistency of many Leavers, in this case the palpably bonkers outrage at one US politician 'interfering' and not at another US politician 'interfering'. If I keep repeating my astonishment, it's because I'm so struck by the phenomenon; it really is the most striking thing about the whole referendum.MarkHopkins said:Richard, I don't understand why you repeatedly use insults like 'swivel-eyed' when someone has a different outlook / understanding to you.
Is it because you don't think your argument is strong enough, and so you add the insult?
Or is there another reason?
Although I can 100% guarantee that I'll be misrepresented, let me make clear that I'm not referring to the proposition that Obama shouldn't have commented at all. That's a perfectly reasonable position to take. What is not perfectly reasonable is to be so outraged by one and not the other.
I genuinely don't understand why so many on the Leave side are purblind on issues like this. It's hardly controversial to point out that Trump and Obama were both expressing an opinion on whether the UK should vote for Brexit, and were both expressing an opinion on how hard it would be to negotiate a trade deal with the US. It utterly baffles me that anyone can, with a straight face, argue that only one of those was outrageous.
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Charles, I expect more class and decorum from you.Charles said:
@TSE doesn't like "BJ"s?MaxPB said:
Why not *innocent face*?TheScreamingEagles said:
New PB rule, no use of acronyms involving Boris Johnson's initials.MaxPB said:
Boris Johnson Will Never Be PM.TheScreamingEagles said:
Well if Boris is Tory leader in April 2020, is certain.MaxPB said:
Agreed. Maybe he could bring Hitler up in, I don't know, April 2020?TheScreamingEagles said:
I think it's great for Labour to let him back into the party.MaxPB said:
Ken is going to be let back into the party isn't he.TheScreamingEagles said:Hmmm
Labour antisemitism inquiry will not seek evidence from Ken Livingstone
Chair Shami Chakrabarti says she will not ‘positively solicit’ a submission and that she joined party on day she was appointed
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/may/16/labour-antisemitism-inquiry-shami-chakrabarti-not-seek-evidence-from-ken-livingstone
BJWNBPM.
I mean that's the sort of filthy innuendo, a working class Northerner like me would come up with.0 -
Thanks Mr Blackburn,they must be millions of us thickO's according Feersumenjineeya worried or have concerns about the numbers or Quality of immigration.blackburn63 said:
Let them eat cake, says Meeks.Plato_Says said:
I'd be tempted to recruit lots and lots of overseas pension lawyersblackburn63 said:
Of course it is, if you flood the market with cheap labour you compress wages.AlastairMeeks said:@VapidBilge (good name, can't think where you got it from) - Employment rates are at an all time high, job vacancy rates are touching all time highs, unemployment rates are at a ten year low. So the increase in the supply of labour is not keeping up with the increased demand for it.
In those circumstances, we can reasonably conclude that immigration isn't the main thing holding down wage rises.
Its why brain surgeons get paid more than roadsweepers.
@:tykejohnnie
I haven't been affected by immigration one way or another directly, but I've had hundreds of conversations along the lines of your posts, and I've spent time in Bradford. Don't be dissuaded (not that you will) by the poncy effete elite who call you a racist xenophobe, their time will come.
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Clearly, or maybe the thought of a BJ BJ.Charles said:
@TSE doesn't like "BJ"s?MaxPB said:
Why not *innocent face*?TheScreamingEagles said:
New PB rule, no use of acronyms involving Boris Johnson's initials.MaxPB said:
Boris Johnson Will Never Be PM.TheScreamingEagles said:
Well if Boris is Tory leader in April 2020, is certain.MaxPB said:
Agreed. Maybe he could bring Hitler up in, I don't know, April 2020?TheScreamingEagles said:
I think it's great for Labour to let him back into the party.MaxPB said:
Ken is going to be let back into the party isn't he.TheScreamingEagles said:Hmmm
Labour antisemitism inquiry will not seek evidence from Ken Livingstone
Chair Shami Chakrabarti says she will not ‘positively solicit’ a submission and that she joined party on day she was appointed
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/may/16/labour-antisemitism-inquiry-shami-chakrabarti-not-seek-evidence-from-ken-livingstone
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Don't mess with Donald Trump or they'll be hell toupee.Charles said:
1 is a bloke with a dodgy past. The other is the President.Richard_Nabavi said:
It's because I'm genuinely gobsmacked at the inconsistency of many Leavers, in this case the palpably bonkers outrage at one US politician 'interfering' and not at another US politician 'interfering'. If I keep repeating my astonishment, it's because I'm so struck by the phenomenon; it really is the most striking thing about the whole referendum.MarkHopkins said:Richard, I don't understand why you repeatedly use insults like 'swivel-eyed' when someone has a different outlook / understanding to you.
Is it because you don't think your argument is strong enough, and so you add the insult?
Or is there another reason?
Although I can 100% guarantee that I'll be misrepresented, let me make clear that I'm not referring to the proposition that Obama shouldn't have commented at all. That's a perfectly reasonable position to take. What is not perfectly reasonable is to be so outraged by one and not the other.
I genuinely don't understand why so many on the Leave side are purblind on issues like this. It's hardly controversial to point out that Trump and Obama were both expressing an opinion on whether the UK should vote for Brexit, and were both expressing an opinion on how hard it would be to negotiate a trade deal with the US. It utterly baffles me that anyone can, with a straight face, argue that only one of those was outrageous.
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PLEASE tell me he's said 'hundreds of billions'.MaxPB said:"Brexit would cost hundreds of billions, warns Osborne"
Times are flashing up an article.
So we've moved from merely billions to hundreds of billions. Desperate stuff really.0 -
Shouldn't your rose be a red one rather than white given your recent form ?TheScreamingEagles said:
Charles, I expect more class and decorum from you.Charles said:
@TSE doesn't like "BJ"s?MaxPB said:
Why not *innocent face*?TheScreamingEagles said:
New PB rule, no use of acronyms involving Boris Johnson's initials.MaxPB said:
Boris Johnson Will Never Be PM.TheScreamingEagles said:
Well if Boris is Tory leader in April 2020, is certain.MaxPB said:
Agreed. Maybe he could bring Hitler up in, I don't know, April 2020?TheScreamingEagles said:
I think it's great for Labour to let him back into the party.MaxPB said:
Ken is going to be let back into the party isn't he.TheScreamingEagles said:Hmmm
Labour antisemitism inquiry will not seek evidence from Ken Livingstone
Chair Shami Chakrabarti says she will not ‘positively solicit’ a submission and that she joined party on day she was appointed
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/may/16/labour-antisemitism-inquiry-shami-chakrabarti-not-seek-evidence-from-ken-livingstone
BJWNBPM.
I mean that's the sort of filthy innuendo, a working class Northerner like me would come up with.0 -
The piece I had written for yesterday, but have no pushed back to next weekend begins withMaxPB said:
Clearly, or maybe the thought of a BJ BJ.Charles said:
@TSE doesn't like "BJ"s?MaxPB said:
Why not *innocent face*?TheScreamingEagles said:
New PB rule, no use of acronyms involving Boris Johnson's initials.MaxPB said:
Boris Johnson Will Never Be PM.TheScreamingEagles said:
Well if Boris is Tory leader in April 2020, is certain.MaxPB said:
Agreed. Maybe he could bring Hitler up in, I don't know, April 2020?TheScreamingEagles said:
I think it's great for Labour to let him back into the party.MaxPB said:
Ken is going to be let back into the party isn't he.TheScreamingEagles said:Hmmm
Labour antisemitism inquiry will not seek evidence from Ken Livingstone
Chair Shami Chakrabarti says she will not ‘positively solicit’ a submission and that she joined party on day she was appointed
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/may/16/labour-antisemitism-inquiry-shami-chakrabarti-not-seek-evidence-from-ken-livingstone
BJWNBPM.
'Like a mistress of Boris Johnson, political gamblers should be laying him non stop'0 -
@Richard_Nabavi,Richard_Nabavi said:
Oh, they are not comparable in impact, of course.MaxPB said:One gave an off the cuff remark in an interview and the other came here and had two massive set-pieces with the whole lobby in attendance to denounce Brexit with a script written by Number 10. I'm not sure how they are comparable in anyone's mind but your's Richard.
But, there you go again, proving my point about normally sensible people once again: 'a script written by Number 10'.
I mean, really? You think the President of the United States reads out scripts written by Osborne or Cameron? Have you considered the possibility that Obama might simply have been telling it like he sees it?
I believe you are usually a sensible person who understand the way the world works.
Do you really believe that all these foreign leaders would be sticking their oar in without being requested to do so by No 10? Trading in favours is the way that international diplomacy works.
If you accept that point, then do you really believe that Downing Street would not have had prior sight of / input into Obama's comments? Of course he would not have said anything he didn't want to say, but he if he would not have been (in their view) supportive of the Remain case then they simply wouldn't have invited him to speak.0 -
I'm sure Cameron and Osborne have been watching my sycophancy with great attention, in between knobbling the G20 finance ministers, squaring the IMF, writing scripts for Obama, infiltrating the NIESR, dragooning eight former US treasury secretaries, and putting pressure on all the world's investment banks.blackburn63 said:No, I suggested TSE had a career to advance and that you were an unthinking sycophantic toady.
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@GdnPolitics: German politicians criticise Boris Johnson for EU-Hitler comments https://t.co/I7w6FtDUSw
Let me guess, they are doing Cameron a favour...0 -
"George Osborne warns that Brexit would cost £200bn in lost investment and £200bn in trade each year"
Export of goods and services to the EU - £223bn.
Right.0 -
Fair go, Mr. D., I just missed the sarcasm flag in Sir Edric's comment.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Llama, I just saw a tweet which amused me. I'm very polite on Twitter, but Sir Edric reserves the right to be sarcastic, which he exercised.
The Guardian chap reckoned all fantasy is implicitly about social justice. Sir Edric took the opportunity to agree with him.
The Guardian chap was of course spouting utter rubbish, as you so aptly demonstrated. Perhaps he hasn't read much, probably went to Oxford.0 -
I'm a Yorkshireman, nothing will ever change that, I'm so much of a Yorkshireman, I reckon I can trace my lineage back to Richard PlantagenetPulpstar said:
Shouldn't your rose be a red one rather than white given your recent form ?TheScreamingEagles said:
Charles, I expect more class and decorum from you.Charles said:
@TSE doesn't like "BJ"s?MaxPB said:
Why not *innocent face*?TheScreamingEagles said:
New PB rule, no use of acronyms involving Boris Johnson's initials.MaxPB said:
Boris Johnson Will Never Be PM.TheScreamingEagles said:
Well if Boris is Tory leader in April 2020, is certain.MaxPB said:
Agreed. Maybe he could bring Hitler up in, I don't know, April 2020?TheScreamingEagles said:
I think it's great for Labour to let him back into the party.MaxPB said:
Ken is going to be let back into the party isn't he.TheScreamingEagles said:Hmmm
Labour antisemitism inquiry will not seek evidence from Ken Livingstone
Chair Shami Chakrabarti says she will not ‘positively solicit’ a submission and that she joined party on day she was appointed
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/may/16/labour-antisemitism-inquiry-shami-chakrabarti-not-seek-evidence-from-ken-livingstone
BJWNBPM.
I mean that's the sort of filthy innuendo, a working class Northerner like me would come up with.0 -
Well, yes? It's easy for him and as many people have said, "back of the queue" is a British idiom. Americans wouldn't use it.Richard_Nabavi said:
Oh, they are not comparable in impact, of course.MaxPB said:One gave an off the cuff remark in an interview and the other came here and had two massive set-pieces with the whole lobby in attendance to denounce Brexit with a script written by Number 10. I'm not sure how they are comparable in anyone's mind but your's Richard.
But, there you go again, proving my point about normally sensible people once again: 'a script written by Number 10'.
I mean, really? You think the President of the United States reads out scripts written by Osborne or Cameron? Have you considered the possibility that Obama might simply have been telling it like he sees it?0 -
Just seen the alert - FFS. I expect that to get a giant raspberry in the comments too. Talk about intelligence insulting. It's making 24hrs to save the NHS look plausibleMaxPB said:"Brexit would cost hundreds of billions, warns Osborne"
Times are flashing up an article.
So we've moved from merely billions to hundreds of billions. Desperate stuff really.0 -
Naturally it should be spelt out in full: Alexander Boris de Pffifel Johnson.TheScreamingEagles said:
Charles, I expect more class and decorum from you.Charles said:
@TSE doesn't like "BJ"s?MaxPB said:
Why not *innocent face*?TheScreamingEagles said:
New PB rule, no use of acronyms involving Boris Johnson's initials.MaxPB said:
Boris Johnson Will Never Be PM.TheScreamingEagles said:
Well if Boris is Tory leader in April 2020, is certain.MaxPB said:
Agreed. Maybe he could bring Hitler up in, I don't know, April 2020?TheScreamingEagles said:
I think it's great for Labour to let him back into the party.MaxPB said:
Ken is going to be let back into the party isn't he.TheScreamingEagles said:Hmmm
Labour antisemitism inquiry will not seek evidence from Ken Livingstone
Chair Shami Chakrabarti says she will not ‘positively solicit’ a submission and that she joined party on day she was appointed
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/may/16/labour-antisemitism-inquiry-shami-chakrabarti-not-seek-evidence-from-ken-livingstone
BJWNBPM.
I mean that's the sort of filthy innuendo, a working class Northerner like me would come up with.
Abbreviating people's names is simply unacceptable. Why we add extensions to our names so we can tell each other apart!
(as a younger son, I just get an "ap", unless I am in Galway in which case I also get an honorific "of Ross-on-Corrib")0 -
A Yorkshireman that supports a team from LancashireTheScreamingEagles said:
I'm a Yorkshireman, nothing will ever change that, I'm so much of a Yorkshireman, I reckon I can trace my lineage back to Richard PlantagenetPulpstar said:
Shouldn't your rose be a red one rather than white given your recent form ?TheScreamingEagles said:
Charles, I expect more class and decorum from you.Charles said:
@TSE doesn't like "BJ"s?MaxPB said:
Why not *innocent face*?TheScreamingEagles said:
New PB rule, no use of acronyms involving Boris Johnson's initials.MaxPB said:
Boris Johnson Will Never Be PM.TheScreamingEagles said:
Well if Boris is Tory leader in April 2020, is certain.MaxPB said:
Agreed. Maybe he could bring Hitler up in, I don't know, April 2020?TheScreamingEagles said:
I think it's great for Labour to let him back into the party.MaxPB said:
Ken is going to be let back into the party isn't he.TheScreamingEagles said:Hmmm
Labour antisemitism inquiry will not seek evidence from Ken Livingstone
Chair Shami Chakrabarti says she will not ‘positively solicit’ a submission and that she joined party on day she was appointed
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/may/16/labour-antisemitism-inquiry-shami-chakrabarti-not-seek-evidence-from-ken-livingstone
BJWNBPM.
I mean that's the sort of filthy innuendo, a working class Northerner like me would come up with.0 -
Luckyguy1983 said:
PLEASE tell me he's said 'hundreds of billions'.MaxPB said:"Brexit would cost hundreds of billions, warns Osborne"
Times are flashing up an article.
So we've moved from merely billions to hundreds of billions. Desperate stuff really.Coming up at 5pm: Brexit would cost hundreds of billions, warns Osborne - George Osborne warns that Brexit would cost £200bn in lost investment and £200bn in trade each year
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MaxPB said:
"George Osborne warns that Brexit would cost £200bn in lost investment and £200bn in trade each year"
Export of goods and services to the EU - £223bn.
Right.
They're just hoping people will think...
'Well I know that number is ridiculous, and the figure might be lower, but we still lose out, so I'll vote Remain'.
Will it work?
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Alright, keep your hair on.JackW said:
Don't mess with Donald Trump or they'll be hell toupee.Charles said:
1 is a bloke with a dodgy past. The other is the President.Richard_Nabavi said:
It's because I'm genuinely gobsmacked at the inconsistency of many Leavers, in this case the palpably bonkers outrage at one US politician 'interfering' and not at another US politician 'interfering'. If I keep repeating my astonishment, it's because I'm so struck by the phenomenon; it really is the most striking thing about the whole referendum.MarkHopkins said:Richard, I don't understand why you repeatedly use insults like 'swivel-eyed' when someone has a different outlook / understanding to you.
Is it because you don't think your argument is strong enough, and so you add the insult?
Or is there another reason?
Although I can 100% guarantee that I'll be misrepresented, let me make clear that I'm not referring to the proposition that Obama shouldn't have commented at all. That's a perfectly reasonable position to take. What is not perfectly reasonable is to be so outraged by one and not the other.
I genuinely don't understand why so many on the Leave side are purblind on issues like this. It's hardly controversial to point out that Trump and Obama were both expressing an opinion on whether the UK should vote for Brexit, and were both expressing an opinion on how hard it would be to negotiate a trade deal with the US. It utterly baffles me that anyone can, with a straight face, argue that only one of those was outrageous.
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Maybe he'll try "trillions" next.MaxPB said:"George Osborne warns that Brexit would cost £200bn in lost investment and £200bn in trade each year"
Export of goods and services to the EU - £223bn.
Right.0 -
I'd put in down to Charles's having to consort with those rough types in NW8 .... he's having to quaff cheap prosecco, and nosh on Iceland sausage rolls and Artic roll from the Co-op at family functions now.TheScreamingEagles said:
Charles, I expect more class and decorum from you.Charles said:
@TSE doesn't like "BJ"s?MaxPB said:
Why not *innocent face*?TheScreamingEagles said:
New PB rule, no use of acronyms involving Boris Johnson's initials.MaxPB said:
Boris Johnson Will Never Be PM.TheScreamingEagles said:
Well if Boris is Tory leader in April 2020, is certain.MaxPB said:
Agreed. Maybe he could bring Hitler up in, I don't know, April 2020?TheScreamingEagles said:
I think it's great for Labour to let him back into the party.MaxPB said:
Ken is going to be let back into the party isn't he.TheScreamingEagles said:Hmmm
Labour antisemitism inquiry will not seek evidence from Ken Livingstone
Chair Shami Chakrabarti says she will not ‘positively solicit’ a submission and that she joined party on day she was appointed
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/may/16/labour-antisemitism-inquiry-shami-chakrabarti-not-seek-evidence-from-ken-livingstone
BJWNBPM.
I mean that's the sort of filthy innuendo, a working class Northerner like me would come up with.0 -
Its almost Fawlty Towers level stuff now on both sides.Scott_P said:@GdnPolitics: German politicians criticise Boris Johnson for EU-Hitler comments https://t.co/I7w6FtDUSw
Let me guess, they are doing Cameron a favour...
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Working class northerner? You? Your dad was a physician of some sorts wasn't he, and you are a lawyer. Come of it Mr Eagles you are as about as much working class as CameronTheScreamingEagles said:
Charles, I expect more class and decorum from you.Charles said:
@TSE doesn't like "BJ"s?MaxPB said:
Why not *innocent face*?TheScreamingEagles said:
New PB rule, no use of acronyms involving Boris Johnson's initials.MaxPB said:
Boris Johnson Will Never Be PM.TheScreamingEagles said:
Well if Boris is Tory leader in April 2020, is certain.MaxPB said:
Agreed. Maybe he could bring Hitler up in, I don't know, April 2020?TheScreamingEagles said:
I think it's great for Labour to let him back into the party.MaxPB said:
Ken is going to be let back into the party isn't he.TheScreamingEagles said:Hmmm
Labour antisemitism inquiry will not seek evidence from Ken Livingstone
Chair Shami Chakrabarti says she will not ‘positively solicit’ a submission and that she joined party on day she was appointed
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/may/16/labour-antisemitism-inquiry-shami-chakrabarti-not-seek-evidence-from-ken-livingstone
BJWNBPM.
I mean that's the sort of filthy innuendo, a working class Northerner like me would come up with.0 -
Mr. Llama, you might very well think that. I couldn't possibly comment.
Mr. Eagles, back to the Vikings, lad. [I may use some Yorkshire-Viking slang in a short story I'm working on, if it fits].
Mr. Max, those figures are literally incredible.0 -
They would have known in advance that he was going to make an intervention, and would certainly have let it be known that they would welcome it.Charles said:@Richard_Nabavi,
I believe you are usually a sensible person who understand the way the world works.
Do you really believe that all these foreign leaders would be sticking their oar in without being requested to do so by No 10? Trading in favours is the way that international diplomacy works.
If you accept that point, then do you really believe that Downing Street would not have had prior sight of / input into Obama's comments? Of course he would not have said anything he didn't want to say, but he if he would not have been (in their view) supportive of the Remain case then they simply wouldn't have invited him to speak.0 -
If the EU Ref becomes as much about Osbo as the AV ref did about Clegg then "Remain" have a serious problem on their hands.MarkHopkins said:MaxPB said:"George Osborne warns that Brexit would cost £200bn in lost investment and £200bn in trade each year"
Export of goods and services to the EU - £223bn.
Right.
They're just hoping people will think...
'Well I know that number is ridiculous, and the figure might be lower, but we still lose out, so I'll vote Remain'.
Will it work?0 -
Is she?SeanT said:
She's a bit of a goer, by all accounts.Cyclefree said:
She has two big faults to my mind:-TheScreamingEagles said:
Andy Burnham once slagged her off, and had to apologise, so she must not be all that bad.Cyclefree said:
Shami must be one of the most overrated public figures around.rottenborough said:Two little bytes of information on potential future Labour MPs or candidates:
Shami Chakrabarti has announced she has recently joined the party;
Dr Palmer, of this parish, has, I believe, announced on his blog that he has returned to a more active political role and is considering selections.
1. Her espousal of liberal principles is not very consistent. And not particularly principled either.
2. She has not thought hard enough - or at all, were I to be unkind - about how to maintain liberal principles when they are under assault from those who don't believe in them, the paradox that too much tolerance of intolerance can allow intolerance to win and to destroy the very liberalism you are claiming to espouse.
The need to maintain and argue vigorously for Western liberalism - a muscular confident liberalism - not the mushy "we are to blame for everything" liberal self-delusion which often masquerades as real liberalism needed a much better defender than it got in her. Who has even followed her at Liberty?
Other than that she's OK. Mind you there is stuff in her personal life which may mean she may not want the exposure of public life. Nothing shocking to my mind just private stuff but the sort of stuff that papers can turn into a something, if they were minded to.
She seems totally humourless to me. I can't recall her ever laughing or smiling or thinking the appropriate response to any joke is anything other is to earnestly shake her head at it, and demand a retraction or apology.0 -
It's beyond desperate - and Remain sqweem about £350m from LeaveMaxPB said:"George Osborne warns that Brexit would cost £200bn in lost investment and £200bn in trade each year"
Export of goods and services to the EU - £223bn.
Right.0 -
Don't panic Mr Mainwaring.Plato_Says said:Luckyguy1983 said:
PLEASE tell me he's said 'hundreds of billions'.MaxPB said:"Brexit would cost hundreds of billions, warns Osborne"
Times are flashing up an article.
So we've moved from merely billions to hundreds of billions. Desperate stuff really.Coming up at 5pm: Brexit would cost hundreds of billions, warns Osborne - George Osborne warns that Brexit would cost £200bn in lost investment and £200bn in trade each year
This is where they've lost it, sensible discussion has gone out of the window, the queues round the block when N Rock went tits up are nothing, that'll be us queueing for bread.0 -
Primary and Secondary Income (investment income) from the EU - £58.5bn
"£200bn"
Right.0 -
Not true:MaxPB said:
Well, yes? It's easy for him and as many people have said, "back of the queue" is a British idiom. Americans wouldn't use it.Richard_Nabavi said:
Oh, they are not comparable in impact, of course.MaxPB said:One gave an off the cuff remark in an interview and the other came here and had two massive set-pieces with the whole lobby in attendance to denounce Brexit with a script written by Number 10. I'm not sure how they are comparable in anyone's mind but your's Richard.
But, there you go again, proving my point about normally sensible people once again: 'a script written by Number 10'.
I mean, really? You think the President of the United States reads out scripts written by Osborne or Cameron? Have you considered the possibility that Obama might simply have been telling it like he sees it?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/04/23/queue-obamas-use-of-british-english-makes-brits-suspicious/
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I'm from the North, I work, that makes me a working class Northerner doesn't it ?HurstLlama said:
Working class northerner? You? Your dad was a physician of some sorts wasn't he, and you are a lawyer. Come of it Mr Eagles you are as about as much working class as CameronTheScreamingEagles said:
Charles, I expect more class and decorum from you.Charles said:
@TSE doesn't like "BJ"s?MaxPB said:
Why not *innocent face*?TheScreamingEagles said:
New PB rule, no use of acronyms involving Boris Johnson's initials.MaxPB said:
Boris Johnson Will Never Be PM.TheScreamingEagles said:
Well if Boris is Tory leader in April 2020, is certain.MaxPB said:
Agreed. Maybe he could bring Hitler up in, I don't know, April 2020?TheScreamingEagles said:
I think it's great for Labour to let him back into the party.MaxPB said:
Ken is going to be let back into the party isn't he.TheScreamingEagles said:Hmmm
Labour antisemitism inquiry will not seek evidence from Ken Livingstone
Chair Shami Chakrabarti says she will not ‘positively solicit’ a submission and that she joined party on day she was appointed
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/may/16/labour-antisemitism-inquiry-shami-chakrabarti-not-seek-evidence-from-ken-livingstone
BJWNBPM.
I mean that's the sort of filthy innuendo, a working class Northerner like me would come up with.0 -
They charge 89p for Shreddies at Iceland vs £2.79 at Tesco...JackW said:
I'd put in down to Charles's having to consort with those rough types in NW8 .... he's having to quaff cheap prosecco, and nosh on Iceland sausage rolls and Artic roll from the Co-op at family functions now.TheScreamingEagles said:
Charles, I expect more class and decorum from you.Charles said:
@TSE doesn't like "BJ"s?MaxPB said:
Why not *innocent face*?TheScreamingEagles said:
New PB rule, no use of acronyms involving Boris Johnson's initials.MaxPB said:
Boris Johnson Will Never Be PM.TheScreamingEagles said:
Well if Boris is Tory leader in April 2020, is certain.MaxPB said:
Agreed. Maybe he could bring Hitler up in, I don't know, April 2020?TheScreamingEagles said:
I think it's great for Labour to let him back into the party.MaxPB said:
Ken is going to be let back into the party isn't he.TheScreamingEagles said:Hmmm
Labour antisemitism inquiry will not seek evidence from Ken Livingstone
Chair Shami Chakrabarti says she will not ‘positively solicit’ a submission and that she joined party on day she was appointed
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/may/16/labour-antisemitism-inquiry-shami-chakrabarti-not-seek-evidence-from-ken-livingstone
BJWNBPM.
I mean that's the sort of filthy innuendo, a working class Northerner like me would come up with.
What's not to like?0 -
I'm sure Mr Meeks can defend himself against you easily but Law firms have frequently recruited large numbers of Australian and NZ lawyers generally in areas such as corporate, banking and capital markets where skills are easily transferable. Pensions combines esoteric and real local knowledge so overseas recruitment is significantly harder. Like tax, it's generally a repository of really bright people. The competition between law firms is real and pricing for any given matter can vary widely.Plato_Says said:
I'd be tempted to recruit lots and lots of overseas pension lawyersblackburn63 said:
Of course it is, if you flood the market with cheap labour you compress wages.AlastairMeeks said:@VapidBilge (good name, can't think where you got it from) - Employment rates are at an all time high, job vacancy rates are touching all time highs, unemployment rates are at a ten year low. So the increase in the supply of labour is not keeping up with the increased demand for it.
In those circumstances, we can reasonably conclude that immigration isn't the main thing holding down wage rises.
Its why brain surgeons get paid more than roadsweepers.
But you don't want facts you want to write WTF and cut and paste articles without any evidence of having considered them.0 -
Arf
Top rated comment BBC: "Donald Trump warning over UK relationship"
5 hours ago
Well I'm not that keen on our Prime Minister either - so Trump has a point.
^ 427 v 800 -
As on election night rcs1000 said to his father ....Charles said:
Alright, keep your hair on.JackW said:
Don't mess with Donald Trump or they'll be hell toupee.Charles said:
1 is a bloke with a dodgy past. The other is the President.Richard_Nabavi said:
It's because I'm genuinely gobsmacked at the inconsistency of many Leavers, in this case the palpably bonkers outrage at one US politician 'interfering' and not at another US politician 'interfering'. If I keep repeating my astonishment, it's because I'm so struck by the phenomenon; it really is the most striking thing about the whole referendum.MarkHopkins said:Richard, I don't understand why you repeatedly use insults like 'swivel-eyed' when someone has a different outlook / understanding to you.
Is it because you don't think your argument is strong enough, and so you add the insult?
Or is there another reason?
Although I can 100% guarantee that I'll be misrepresented, let me make clear that I'm not referring to the proposition that Obama shouldn't have commented at all. That's a perfectly reasonable position to take. What is not perfectly reasonable is to be so outraged by one and not the other.
I genuinely don't understand why so many on the Leave side are purblind on issues like this. It's hardly controversial to point out that Trump and Obama were both expressing an opinion on whether the UK should vote for Brexit, and were both expressing an opinion on how hard it would be to negotiate a trade deal with the US. It utterly baffles me that anyone can, with a straight face, argue that only one of those was outrageous.
(I'm here all night)0 -
Mr. Royale, she's considerably holier-than-thou, to Enfieldise the saying.0
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Daniel Hannan
Daniel Hannan – Verified account @DanHannanMEP
How dare Boris compare the EU to... no, wait, sorry: that's goody-goody federalist Giscard.
https://mobile.twitter.com/DanHannanMEP/status/7321743336495063040 -
The taste ....Charles said:
They charge 89p for Shreddies at Iceland vs £2.79 at Tesco...JackW said:
I'd put in down to Charles's having to consort with those rough types in NW8 .... he's having to quaff cheap prosecco, and nosh on Iceland sausage rolls and Artic roll from the Co-op at family functions now.TheScreamingEagles said:
Charles, I expect more class and decorum from you.Charles said:
@TSE doesn't like "BJ"s?MaxPB said:
Why not *innocent face*?TheScreamingEagles said:
New PB rule, no use of acronyms involving Boris Johnson's initials.MaxPB said:
Boris Johnson Will Never Be PM.TheScreamingEagles said:
Well if Boris is Tory leader in April 2020, is certain.MaxPB said:
Agreed. Maybe he could bring Hitler up in, I don't know, April 2020?TheScreamingEagles said:
I think it's great for Labour to let him back into the party.MaxPB said:
Ken is going to be let back into the party isn't he.TheScreamingEagles said:Hmmm
Labour antisemitism inquiry will not seek evidence from Ken Livingstone
Chair Shami Chakrabarti says she will not ‘positively solicit’ a submission and that she joined party on day she was appointed
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/may/16/labour-antisemitism-inquiry-shami-chakrabarti-not-seek-evidence-from-ken-livingstone
BJWNBPM.
I mean that's the sort of filthy innuendo, a working class Northerner like me would come up with.
What's not to like?
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Pulpstar said:
Arf
Top rated comment BBC: "Donald Trump warning over UK relationship"
5 hours ago
Well I'm not that keen on our Prime Minister either - so Trump has a point.
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I think it's slightly naïve to believe that the parameters of the interview were not discussed with Trump in advance and that he was not told he would be asked certain questions. And, of course, he could just have said No Comment.MaxPB said:
One gave an off the cuff remark in an interview and the other came here and had two massive set-pieces with the whole lobby in attendance to denounce Brexit with a script written by Number 10. I'm not sure how they are comparable in anyone's mind but your's Richard.Richard_Nabavi said:
It's because I'm genuinely gobsmacked at the inconsistency of many Leavers, in this case the palpably bonkers outrage at one US politician 'interfering' and not at another US politician 'interfering'. If I keep repeating my astonishment, it's because I'm so struck by the phenomenon; it really is the most striking thing about the whole referendum.MarkHopkins said:Richard, I don't understand why you repeatedly use insults like 'swivel-eyed' when someone has a different outlook / understanding to you.
Is it because you don't think your argument is strong enough, and so you add the insult?
Or is there another reason?
Although I can 100% guarantee that I'll be misrepresented, let me make clear that I'm not referring to the proposition that Obama shouldn't have commented at all. That's a perfectly reasonable position to take. What is not perfectly reasonable is to be so outraged by one and not the other.
I genuinely don't understand why so many on the Leave side are purblind on issues like this. It's hardly controversial to point out that Trump and Obama were both expressing an opinion on whether the UK should vote for Brexit, and were both expressing an opinion on how hard it would be to negotiate a trade deal with the US. It utterly baffles me that anyone can, with a straight face, argue that only one of those was outrageous.
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I see that some people have taken the misquote seriously!
Calm down, dears:
[Osborne] said Treasury analysis suggested Britain could lose out on up to £200bn of trade by 2030, if it left the EU and reverted to World Trade Organization trading rules
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/may/16/osborne-balls-and-cable-unite-to-argue-case-for-remaining-in-eu
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Which reminds me ....Charles said:
Alright, keep your hair on.JackW said:
Don't mess with Donald Trump or they'll be hell toupee.Charles said:
1 is a bloke with a dodgy past. The other is the President.Richard_Nabavi said:
It's because I'm genuinely gobsmacked at the inconsistency of many Leavers, in this case the palpably bonkers outrage at one US politician 'interfering' and not at another US politician 'interfering'. If I keep repeating my astonishment, it's because I'm so struck by the phenomenon; it really is the most striking thing about the whole referendum.MarkHopkins said:Richard, I don't understand why you repeatedly use insults like 'swivel-eyed' when someone has a different outlook / understanding to you.
Is it because you don't think your argument is strong enough, and so you add the insult?
Or is there another reason?
Although I can 100% guarantee that I'll be misrepresented, let me make clear that I'm not referring to the proposition that Obama shouldn't have commented at all. That's a perfectly reasonable position to take. What is not perfectly reasonable is to be so outraged by one and not the other.
I genuinely don't understand why so many on the Leave side are purblind on issues like this. It's hardly controversial to point out that Trump and Obama were both expressing an opinion on whether the UK should vote for Brexit, and were both expressing an opinion on how hard it would be to negotiate a trade deal with the US. It utterly baffles me that anyone can, with a straight face, argue that only one of those was outrageous.
(I'm here all night)
I'm hearing a rumour that the first act of President Trump will be rename the Presidential aircraft - Hair Force One ....0 -
Shreddies?Charles said:
They charge 89p for Shreddies at Iceland vs £2.79 at Tesco...JackW said:
I'd put in down to Charles's having to consort with those rough types in NW8 .... he's having to quaff cheap prosecco, and nosh on Iceland sausage rolls and Artic roll from the Co-op at family functions now.TheScreamingEagles said:
Charles, I expect more class and decorum from you.Charles said:
@TSE doesn't like "BJ"s?MaxPB said:
Why not *innocent face*?TheScreamingEagles said:
New PB rule, no use of acronyms involving Boris Johnson's initials.MaxPB said:
Boris Johnson Will Never Be PM.TheScreamingEagles said:
Well if Boris is Tory leader in April 2020, is certain.MaxPB said:
Agreed. Maybe he could bring Hitler up in, I don't know, April 2020?TheScreamingEagles said:
I think it's great for Labour to let him back into the party.MaxPB said:
Ken is going to be let back into the party isn't he.TheScreamingEagles said:Hmmm
Labour antisemitism inquiry will not seek evidence from Ken Livingstone
Chair Shami Chakrabarti says she will not ‘positively solicit’ a submission and that she joined party on day she was appointed
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/may/16/labour-antisemitism-inquiry-shami-chakrabarti-not-seek-evidence-from-ken-livingstone
BJWNBPM.
I mean that's the sort of filthy innuendo, a working class Northerner like me would come up with.
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Oops, beat me to it.JackW said:
The taste ....Charles said:
They charge 89p for Shreddies at Iceland vs £2.79 at Tesco...JackW said:
I'd put in down to Charles's having to consort with those rough types in NW8 .... he's having to quaff cheap prosecco, and nosh on Iceland sausage rolls and Artic roll from the Co-op at family functions now.TheScreamingEagles said:
Charles, I expect more class and decorum from you.Charles said:
@TSE doesn't like "BJ"s?MaxPB said:
Why not *innocent face*?TheScreamingEagles said:
New PB rule, no use of acronyms involving Boris Johnson's initials.MaxPB said:
Boris Johnson Will Never Be PM.TheScreamingEagles said:
Well if Boris is Tory leader in April 2020, is certain.MaxPB said:
Agreed. Maybe he could bring Hitler up in, I don't know, April 2020?TheScreamingEagles said:
I think it's great for Labour to let him back into the party.MaxPB said:
Ken is going to be let back into the party isn't he.TheScreamingEagles said:Hmmm
Labour antisemitism inquiry will not seek evidence from Ken Livingstone
Chair Shami Chakrabarti says she will not ‘positively solicit’ a submission and that she joined party on day she was appointed
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/may/16/labour-antisemitism-inquiry-shami-chakrabarti-not-seek-evidence-from-ken-livingstone
BJWNBPM.
I mean that's the sort of filthy innuendo, a working class Northerner like me would come up with.
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Just as a matter of interest, how close is the nearest Iceland to St John's Wood High Street?Charles said:
They charge 89p for Shreddies at Iceland vs £2.79 at Tesco...JackW said:
I'd put in down to Charles's having to consort with those rough types in NW8 .... he's having to quaff cheap prosecco, and nosh on Iceland sausage rolls and Artic roll from the Co-op at family functions now.TheScreamingEagles said:
Charles, I expect more class and decorum from you.Charles said:
@TSE doesn't like "BJ"s?MaxPB said:
Why not *innocent face*?TheScreamingEagles said:
New PB rule, no use of acronyms involving Boris Johnson's initials.MaxPB said:
Boris Johnson Will Never Be PM.TheScreamingEagles said:
Well if Boris is Tory leader in April 2020, is certain.MaxPB said:
Agreed. Maybe he could bring Hitler up in, I don't know, April 2020?TheScreamingEagles said:
I think it's great for Labour to let him back into the party.MaxPB said:
Ken is going to be let back into the party isn't he.TheScreamingEagles said:Hmmm
Labour antisemitism inquiry will not seek evidence from Ken Livingstone
Chair Shami Chakrabarti says she will not ‘positively solicit’ a submission and that she joined party on day she was appointed
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/may/16/labour-antisemitism-inquiry-shami-chakrabarti-not-seek-evidence-from-ken-livingstone
BJWNBPM.
I mean that's the sort of filthy innuendo, a working class Northerner like me would come up with.
What's not to like?0 -
His first trip to Camp David might inspire a new nickname for our PM.JackW said:
Which reminds me ....Charles said:
Alright, keep your hair on.JackW said:
Don't mess with Donald Trump or they'll be hell toupee.Charles said:
1 is a bloke with a dodgy past. The other is the President.Richard_Nabavi said:
It's because I'm genuinely gobsmacked at the inconsistency of many Leavers, in this case the palpably bonkers outrage at one US politician 'interfering' and not at another US politician 'interfering'. If I keep repeating my astonishment, it's because I'm so struck by the phenomenon; it really is the most striking thing about the whole referendum.MarkHopkins said:Richard, I don't understand why you repeatedly use insults like 'swivel-eyed' when someone has a different outlook / understanding to you.
Is it because you don't think your argument is strong enough, and so you add the insult?
Or is there another reason?
Although I can 100% guarantee that I'll be misrepresented, let me make clear that I'm not referring to the proposition that Obama shouldn't have commented at all. That's a perfectly reasonable position to take. What is not perfectly reasonable is to be so outraged by one and not the other.
I genuinely don't understand why so many on the Leave side are purblind on issues like this. It's hardly controversial to point out that Trump and Obama were both expressing an opinion on whether the UK should vote for Brexit, and were both expressing an opinion on how hard it would be to negotiate a trade deal with the US. It utterly baffles me that anyone can, with a straight face, argue that only one of those was outrageous.
(I'm here all night)
I'm hearing a rumour that the first act of President Trump will be rename the Presidential aircraft - Hair Force One ....0 -
When one considers that our largest sector deficit is finished manufactured goods, would the EU really want to start imposing tariffs and barriers for goods that could probably be produced in the UK for the same cost if there was less inertia?0
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I said last week Leave were having all the fun, fun is good. Let's leave war, pestilence and armageddon to Remain.0
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There's one in East Finchley.rcs1000 said:
Just as a matter of interest, how close is the nearest Iceland to St John's Wood High Street?Charles said:
They charge 89p for Shreddies at Iceland vs £2.79 at Tesco...JackW said:
I'd put in down to Charles's having to consort with those rough types in NW8 .... he's having to quaff cheap prosecco, and nosh on Iceland sausage rolls and Artic roll from the Co-op at family functions now.TheScreamingEagles said:
Charles, I expect more class and decorum from you.Charles said:
@TSE doesn't like "BJ"s?MaxPB said:
Why not *innocent face*?TheScreamingEagles said:
New PB rule, no use of acronyms involving Boris Johnson's initials.MaxPB said:
Boris Johnson Will Never Be PM.TheScreamingEagles said:
Well if Boris is Tory leader in April 2020, is certain.MaxPB said:
Agreed. Maybe he could bring Hitler up in, I don't know, April 2020?TheScreamingEagles said:
I think it's great for Labour to let him back into the party.MaxPB said:
Ken is going to be let back into the party isn't he.TheScreamingEagles said:Hmmm
Labour antisemitism inquiry will not seek evidence from Ken Livingstone
Chair Shami Chakrabarti says she will not ‘positively solicit’ a submission and that she joined party on day she was appointed
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/may/16/labour-antisemitism-inquiry-shami-chakrabarti-not-seek-evidence-from-ken-livingstone
BJWNBPM.
I mean that's the sort of filthy innuendo, a working class Northerner like me would come up with.
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This is a very effective Leave tactic, though. Because they are not able to engage with the argument they seek instead to distort what the argument is. They are very cleverly creating a meme that everything Remain says is wildly over the top and so can be safely ignored. Remain have to find a way round that. It's straight out of the SNP's Indy playbook.Richard_Nabavi said:I see that some people have taken the misquote seriously!
Calm down, dears:
[Osborne] said Treasury analysis suggested Britain could lose out on up to £200bn of trade by 2030, if it left the EU and reverted to World Trade Organization trading rules
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/may/16/osborne-balls-and-cable-unite-to-argue-case-for-remaining-in-eu
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Awww Richard you spoilsportRichard_Nabavi said:I see that some people have taken the misquote seriously!
Calm down, dears:
[Osborne] said Treasury analysis suggested Britain could lose out on up to £200bn of trade by 2030, if it left the EU and reverted to World Trade Organization trading rules
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/may/16/osborne-balls-and-cable-unite-to-argue-case-for-remaining-in-eu0 -
Mr. Max, given the absence of tariffs on Iceland, Turkey, and all points in between it would be an act of singular vindictiveness to uniquely seek to impose them upon us.0
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Ah, the same gravity model as last time then. The same one that said previously we should join the Euro!Richard_Nabavi said:I see that some people have taken the misquote seriously!
Calm down, dears:
[Osborne] said Treasury analysis suggested Britain could lose out on up to £200bn of trade by 2030, if it left the EU and reverted to World Trade Organization trading rules
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/may/16/osborne-balls-and-cable-unite-to-argue-case-for-remaining-in-eu0 -
That would come under the heading of "not that close" then.MaxPB said:
There's one in East Finchley.rcs1000 said:
Just as a matter of interest, how close is the nearest Iceland to St John's Wood High Street?Charles said:
They charge 89p for Shreddies at Iceland vs £2.79 at Tesco...JackW said:
I'd put in down to Charles's having to consort with those rough types in NW8 .... he's having to quaff cheap prosecco, and nosh on Iceland sausage rolls and Artic roll from the Co-op at family functions now.TheScreamingEagles said:
Charles, I expect more class and decorum from you.Charles said:
@TSE doesn't like "BJ"s?MaxPB said:
Why not *innocent face*?TheScreamingEagles said:
New PB rule, no use of acronyms involving Boris Johnson's initials.MaxPB said:
Boris Johnson Will Never Be PM.TheScreamingEagles said:
Well if Boris is Tory leader in April 2020, is certain.MaxPB said:
Agreed. Maybe he could bring Hitler up in, I don't know, April 2020?TheScreamingEagles said:
I think it's great for Labour to let him back into the party.MaxPB said:
Ken is going to be let back into the party isn't he.TheScreamingEagles said:Hmmm
Labour antisemitism inquiry will not seek evidence from Ken Livingstone
Chair Shami Chakrabarti says she will not ‘positively solicit’ a submission and that she joined party on day she was appointed
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/may/16/labour-antisemitism-inquiry-shami-chakrabarti-not-seek-evidence-from-ken-livingstone
BJWNBPM.
I mean that's the sort of filthy innuendo, a working class Northerner like me would come up with.
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Oh come on SO its nothing of the sort, its about ridiculing outrageous claims. Look at Osborne, Cable and Balls lined up on the runway, I mean who on earth thought that was a good idea? What they said was irrelevant.SouthamObserver said:
This is a very effective Leave tactic, though. Because they are not able to engage with the argument they seek instead to distort what the argument is. They are very cleverly creating a meme that everything Remain says is wildly over the top and so can be safely ignored. Remain have to find a way round that. It's straight out of the SNP's Indy playbook.Richard_Nabavi said:I see that some people have taken the misquote seriously!
Calm down, dears:
[Osborne] said Treasury analysis suggested Britain could lose out on up to £200bn of trade by 2030, if it left the EU and reverted to World Trade Organization trading rules
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/may/16/osborne-balls-and-cable-unite-to-argue-case-for-remaining-in-eu
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Hilarious.blackburn63 said:
Chortle, however last week he got very cross with me when I ridiculed his claims to be an "independent thinker".Luckyguy1983 said:Our eloquent poster Nabavi
Though on betting, he's really quite savvy
Has political views,
So Cameron-enthused,
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In this case I think it was a misquote by the Times, but it's indicative that people didn't engage brain and immediately see that Osborne couldn't possibly have said that.SouthamObserver said:This is a very effective Leave tactic, though. Because they are not able to engage with the argument they seek instead to distort what the argument is. They are very cleverly creating a meme that everything Remain says is wildly over the top and so can be safely ignored. Remain have to find a way round that. It's straight out of the SNP's Indy playbook.
On your main point, I'm not sure that it is a smart approach by the Leave campaign. It might be, but the risk from their point of view is that voters agree that the warnings are over the top, but conclude that there might be something in them. As I've said before, Remain only need to sow enough doubt, not win the argument.0 -
And the first meeting with Mrs Trump - the new First Lady ....williamglenn said:
His first trip to Camp David might inspire a new nickname for our PM.JackW said:
Which reminds me ....Charles said:
Alright, keep your hair on.JackW said:
Don't mess with Donald Trump or they'll be hell toupee.Charles said:
1 is a bloke with a dodgy past. The other is the President.Richard_Nabavi said:
It's because I'm genuinely gobsmacked at the inconsistency of many Leavers, in this case the palpably bonkers outrage at one US politician 'interfering' and not at another US politician 'interfering'. If I keep repeating my astonishment, it's because I'm so struck by the phenomenon; it really is the most striking thing about the whole referendum.MarkHopkins said:Richard, I don't understand why you repeatedly use insults like 'swivel-eyed' when someone has a different outlook / understanding to you.
Is it because you don't think your argument is strong enough, and so you add the insult?
Or is there another reason?
Although I can 100% guarantee that I'll be misrepresented, let me make clear that I'm not referring to the proposition that Obama shouldn't have commented at all. That's a perfectly reasonable position to take. What is not perfectly reasonable is to be so outraged by one and not the other.
I genuinely don't understand why so many on the Leave side are purblind on issues like this. It's hardly controversial to point out that Trump and Obama were both expressing an opinion on whether the UK should vote for Brexit, and were both expressing an opinion on how hard it would be to negotiate a trade deal with the US. It utterly baffles me that anyone can, with a straight face, argue that only one of those was outrageous.
(I'm here all night)
I'm hearing a rumour that the first act of President Trump will be rename the Presidential aircraft - Hair Force One ....
PM - "Melania, lovely to meet you. Now tell me what attracted you to Donald apart from his $10bn and high blood pressure ...."0 -
It may be very effective because the scare stories are so obviously implausible, How do you engage with someone spouting complete nonsense? You cannot have a rational debate with a lunatic.SouthamObserver said:
This is a very effective Leave tactic, though. Because they are not able to engage with the argument they seek instead to distort what the argument is. They are very cleverly creating a meme that everything Remain says is wildly over the top and so can be safely ignored. Remain have to find a way round that. It's straight out of the SNP's Indy playbook.Richard_Nabavi said:I see that some people have taken the misquote seriously!
Calm down, dears:
[Osborne] said Treasury analysis suggested Britain could lose out on up to £200bn of trade by 2030, if it left the EU and reverted to World Trade Organization trading rules
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/may/16/osborne-balls-and-cable-unite-to-argue-case-for-remaining-in-eu0 -
Nah, they see three untrustworthy figures stood behind lecterns on a runway. That'll do.Richard_Nabavi said:
In this case I think it was a misquote by the Times, but it's indicative that people didn't engage brain and immediately see that Osborne couldn't possibly have said that.SouthamObserver said:This is a very effective Leave tactic, though. Because they are not able to engage with the argument they seek instead to distort what the argument is. They are very cleverly creating a meme that everything Remain says is wildly over the top and so can be safely ignored. Remain have to find a way round that. It's straight out of the SNP's Indy playbook.
On your main point, I'm not sure that it is a smart approach by the Leave campaign. It might be, but the risk from their point of view is that voters agree that the warnings are over the top, but conclude that there might be something in them. As I've said before, Remain only need to sow enough doubt, not win the argument.0 -
Unfortunately the LEAVE team a doing an Aston Villa ....blackburn63 said:
Oh come on SO its nothing of the sort, its about ridiculing outrageous claims. Look at Osborne, Cable and Balls lined up on the runway, I mean who on earth thought that was a good idea? What they said was irrelevant.SouthamObserver said:
This is a very effective Leave tactic, though. Because they are not able to engage with the argument they seek instead to distort what the argument is. They are very cleverly creating a meme that everything Remain says is wildly over the top and so can be safely ignored. Remain have to find a way round that. It's straight out of the SNP's Indy playbook.Richard_Nabavi said:I see that some people have taken the misquote seriously!
Calm down, dears:
[Osborne] said Treasury analysis suggested Britain could lose out on up to £200bn of trade by 2030, if it left the EU and reverted to World Trade Organization trading rules
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/may/16/osborne-balls-and-cable-unite-to-argue-case-for-remaining-in-eu
Remain are doing a Spurs, a predictable choke to the merriment of the opposition.0 -
The most sensible comments came from O'Leary, interestingly. Unlike the others he has run a successful company, regardless of what you think of Ryanair's customer serviceblackburn63 said:
Oh come on SO its nothing of the sort, its about ridiculing outrageous claims. Look at Osborne, Cable and Balls lined up on the runway, I mean who on earth thought that was a good idea? What they said was irrelevant.SouthamObserver said:
This is a very effective Leave tactic, though. Because they are not able to engage with the argument they seek instead to distort what the argument is. They are very cleverly creating a meme that everything Remain says is wildly over the top and so can be safely ignored. Remain have to find a way round that. It's straight out of the SNP's Indy playbook.Richard_Nabavi said:I see that some people have taken the misquote seriously!
Calm down, dears:
[Osborne] said Treasury analysis suggested Britain could lose out on up to £200bn of trade by 2030, if it left the EU and reverted to World Trade Organization trading rules
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/may/16/osborne-balls-and-cable-unite-to-argue-case-for-remaining-in-eu
Remain are doing a Spurs, a predictable choke to the merriment of the opposition.0 -
There will not be tariffs on manufactured goods between the EU and the UK. It is highly unlikely there will be tariffs on services.MaxPB said:When one considers that our largest sector deficit is finished manufactured goods, would the EU really want to start imposing tariffs and barriers for goods that could probably be produced in the UK for the same cost if there was less inertia?
The issues, as always, are about using 'regulation' as a non-tariff barrier. NAFTA, for example, prohibits using local standards as an NTB, with the consequence that Canada's standards office has become essentially defunct; everyone simply manufacturers to US and standards and ships into the US.0 -
Remain are doing a Spurs, a predictable choke to the merriment of the opposition.blackburn63 said:
Punching the bruise....
In the post-Leicester world, absolutely nothing is certain. Apart from Arsenal finishing somewhere between second and fourth. And Spurs being behind them. And Sunderland ending up 17th. And Stoke ninth. But apart from that, anything can happen. The Premier League may not be the best league in the world. It may not be the most exciting. But Leicester just made it the most interesting.
http://www.sportinglife.com/football/news/article/2/10284545/premier-league-review-leicester-city-smash-premier-league-glass-ceiling0 -
Never argue with an idiot in the street, passers by can't tell the differenceHurstLlama said:
It may be very effective because the scare stories are so obviously implausible, How do you engage with someone spouting complete nonsense? You cannot have a rational debate with a lunatic.SouthamObserver said:
This is a very effective Leave tactic, though. Because they are not able to engage with the argument they seek instead to distort what the argument is. They are very cleverly creating a meme that everything Remain says is wildly over the top and so can be safely ignored. Remain have to find a way round that. It's straight out of the SNP's Indy playbook.Richard_Nabavi said:I see that some people have taken the misquote seriously!
Calm down, dears:
[Osborne] said Treasury analysis suggested Britain could lose out on up to £200bn of trade by 2030, if it left the EU and reverted to World Trade Organization trading rules
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/may/16/osborne-balls-and-cable-unite-to-argue-case-for-remaining-in-eu0 -
From the archives here's Dame Edna on the sofa with the Donald and Ivana Trump in 1990. The Trump bit starts at 15:00.JackW said:
And the first meeting with Mrs Trump - the new First Lady ....
PM - "Melania, lovely to meet you. Now tell me what attracted you to Donald apart from his $10bn and high blood pressure ...."
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The start of this polemic from O'Leary is most amusing given today
https://twitter.com/PlatoSays/status/7322045636258693120 -
Strangely, when I checked the other day their plain flour was twice the price of Waitrose.Charles said:
They charge 89p for Shreddies at Iceland vs £2.79 at Tesco...JackW said:
I'd put in down to Charles's having to consort with those rough types in NW8 .... he's having to quaff cheap prosecco, and nosh on Iceland sausage rolls and Artic roll from the Co-op at family functions now.TheScreamingEagles said:
Charles, I expect more class and decorum from you.Charles said:
@TSE doesn't like "BJ"s?MaxPB said:
Why not *innocent face*?TheScreamingEagles said:
New PB rule, no use of acronyms involving Boris Johnson's initials.MaxPB said:
Boris Johnson Will Never Be PM.TheScreamingEagles said:
Well if Boris is Tory leader in April 2020, is certain.MaxPB said:
Agreed. Maybe he could bring Hitler up in, I don't know, April 2020?TheScreamingEagles said:
I think it's great for Labour to let him back into the party.MaxPB said:
Ken is going to be let back into the party isn't he.TheScreamingEagles said:Hmmm
Labour antisemitism inquiry will not seek evidence from Ken Livingstone
Chair Shami Chakrabarti says she will not ‘positively solicit’ a submission and that she joined party on day she was appointed
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/may/16/labour-antisemitism-inquiry-shami-chakrabarti-not-seek-evidence-from-ken-livingstone
BJWNBPM.
I mean that's the sort of filthy innuendo, a working class Northerner like me would come up with.
What's not to like?0
