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One of the best parody accounts. I also like Merkel's Queen of Europe one.FrancisUrquhart said:0 -
Osborne is deluded if he thinks he will be the next leader of the Tories:
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https://twitter.com/Ruth_E_Davidson/status/724232091576225792Scott_P said:@AgentP22: Welcome to SNP run Scotland.
The only country in the world whose future is decided by an opinion poll. https://t.co/BshoOErAXA@Ruth_E_Davidson Until recently that's how every Westminster election was called, wasn't it?
— Bill Whiteford (@Billwhiteford) 24 April 20160 -
Theuniondivvie said:Scott_P said:
@AgentP22: Welcome to SNP run Scotland.
The only country in the world whose future is decided by an opinion poll. https://t.co/BshoOErAXA@Ruth_E_Davidson Until recently that's how every Westminster election was called, wasn't it?
— Bill Whiteford (@Billwhiteford) 24 April 2016
Not the ones that lasted five years
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loooooooooooooooooolSimonStClare said:
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Poisonous scum really crawling out from under their rocks now.Scott_P said:
Wonder why they thought this moment in time was the one to fess up.
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Difficult to feel a lot of sympathy for the writer since he admits spending $401k on his daughter's wedding. I'm sure most people would like to spend $401k on their child's wedding but they don't because they can't afford it.rcs1000 said:This is a fascinating article on American economic insecurity:
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2016/05/my-secret-shame/476415/0 -
Lots of stuff including a parade of Labour anti semitic commentsFrancisUrquhart said:
Did they run the jezza "who are you"...sky news..."Goodbye"...then stuck trying to get through the door for what seems like forever?Floater said:Sky news at 7pm just horrible for Labour
Followed up by a historian ripping Ken a new one (and those who say they are against zionism not jews)
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True, but they might spend the contents of their 401(k) savings account like the writer did - or their ISA in this country...AndyJS said:
Difficult to feel a lot of sympathy for the writer since he admits spending $401k on his daughter's wedding. I'm sure most people would like to spend $401k on their child's wedding but they don't because they can't afford it.rcs1000 said:This is a fascinating article on American economic insecurity:
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Sounds like they've got an over-entitled child on their hand.Polruan said:
True, but they might spend the contents of their 401(k) savings account like the writer did - or their ISA in this country...AndyJS said:
Difficult to feel a lot of sympathy for the writer since he admits spending $401k on his daughter's wedding. I'm sure most people would like to spend $401k on their child's wedding but they don't because they can't afford it.rcs1000 said:This is a fascinating article on American economic insecurity:
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The 401(k) is just a retirement account. The article doesn't say they spent $401k.AndyJS said:
Difficult to feel a lot of sympathy for the writer since he admits spending $401k on his daughter's wedding. I'm sure most people would like to spend $401k on their child's wedding but they don't because they can't afford it.rcs1000 said:This is a fascinating article on American economic insecurity:
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2016/05/my-secret-shame/476415/0 -
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It's a fair point. If we were starting from scratch, or had PR, Blairites, Cameroons, and Orange Book Lib Dems would be all one party.Polruan said:
I'm sorry, I wasn't really trying to be pejorative and I'm not suggesting that everyone to the right or left of Cameron's ideal centre is in any way an extremist - when you get to Griffin, yes, when you get to Corbyn you have to go a bit further left to hit Griffin's equivalent. That's my point though: there is a lot of respectable political space that the Cameroons and the Labour right are not interested in occupying. And the Cameron project, as with the Labour right project, is to portray the party members in that space as extremists (threatening our economy, security etc etc). I don't see that we can end up with two main parties endlessly fighting over that space, particularly with the anti-politics mood increasing by the day; but Cameron's desire to maintain power by portraying everyone else as an extremists means it makes perfect sense for him to destroy Labour by making common cause with its "sensible" members. Who, when you look at their actions on the Welfare Bill last year (for example) will be falling over one another to accept.Indigo said:
That's a rather pejorative way of putting it. If you put up a scale for 1 to 10, with Chairman Mao at 1 and Oswald Mosley at 10, Cameron and Blair are about 5.1, there are whole mountains of members and shadesPolruan said:
The big question when Cameron clings onto power post-referendum by replacing the awkward right of his own party with the acquiescent right of the Labour party is how the party brands will shake down. Will it be
- Cameron keeps the Conservative label, the frothers join UKIP, and the Labour right become members of the new Conservatives?
- The Labour right manage to seize the party back, throw out the lefties, and form a coalition with Cameron’s pro-EU colleagues?
- or the extremes on the right and left take control of their parties, leading Cameron and Osborne to form a new party with Kendall, Woodcock, Mann et al?
Most importantly, what does this putative new party get called? First choice would have to be the Centre Party though if Crosby stays involved you wouldn’t rule out the Stability Party. (In passing, I imagine the Conservative right will bear a strong resemblance to the new party proposed in the these pages yesterday).
The Milquetoast Party that you are proposing would struggle electorally because it is the pro-immigration, pro-EU party, which will come to be seen as a complete liability over the next 2-3 years, not to mention it is a magic money tree party that is going to be completely discredited the next time the markets turn down.
I'd like to think it would struggle electorally, but I'm not convinced.0 -
A 401k is a retirement account! He spent some of his retirement savings, not $401,000!AndyJS said:
Difficult to feel a lot of sympathy for the writer since he admits spending $401k on his daughter's wedding. I'm sure most people would like to spend $401k on their child's wedding but they don't because they can't afford it.rcs1000 said:This is a fascinating article on American economic insecurity:
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It's a fair point. If we were starting from scratch, or had PR, Blairites, Cameroons, and Orange Book Lib Dems would be all one party.
Theres plenty of us who have been saying - for years now - that there is NOTHING to choose between them.0 -
I hope it doesn't conclude it's been a Jewish/Zionist plot.dr_spyn said:What could possibly go wrong?
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Thanks for the piece WR.
And thanks also to all those who have written so knowledgeably about the US election.
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Excellent!Pong said:
lol. Reminds me of this;foxinsoxuk said:
Science? Nah, go by unsubstantiated intuition. It is so much cheaper to be ignorant too.MikeK said:
I've always had the feeling, sans any proof, that the Large Hadron Collider is one of the biggest scientific scams ever.Anorak said:Anyone mentioned this yet? Headline of the year, maybe...
Large Hadron Collider: Weasel causes shutdown
But with so much work and billions of Euros, not to mention reputations, invested in it I don't expect it to be proclaimed a failure any time soon. Or ever.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhGuXCuDb1U
Isn't it amazing how disdain for actual knowledge leads people to come up with the most bizarre conspiracy theories? Sometimes I wish I'd become a psychologist!0 -
Stop it - trying to put the kids to bed and howling with laughterLewisDuckworth said:
I hope it doesn't conclude it's been a Jewish/Zionist plot.dr_spyn said:What could possibly go wrong?
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So after Richard Nabavi had a meltdown earlier this week we had TSE crybabying about Leaves version of Project Fear today.
WWWWHHHHIIIIIINNNNEEEE
Report back to CCHQ for a new briefing.
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:-)Polruan said:
Superb. That'll teach them to collide tuppenny rice and treacle.Anorak said:Anyone mentioned this yet? Headline of the year, maybe...
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If this isn't a crisis, why is an 'independent' inquiry necessary?!dr_spyn said:What could possibly go wrong?
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Is it going to be judge-led?oxfordsimon said:
If this isn't a crisis, why is an 'independent' inquiry necessary?!dr_spyn said:What could possibly go wrong?
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I don't think that Shami Chakrabarti counts as a judgeThreeQuidder said:
Is it going to be judge-led?oxfordsimon said:
If this isn't a crisis, why is an 'independent' inquiry necessary?!dr_spyn said:What could possibly go wrong?
https://twitter.com/BBCBreaking/status/726130031211241478
But I really don't expect this process to come with anything other than a new definition of the terms that means that Corbyn doesn't have to challenge his friends and the views they share.
It is an attempt to get it off the front pages - and that just ain't gonna happen. I am sure that we will get new revelations over the weekend and more suspensions will have to follow0 -
I think it's rather sad. Could you honestly imagine Attlee, Gaitskell, Wilson, Callaghan, Kinnock, Blair having to commission an enquiry into anti-semitism in the Labour Party? But, we've reached a point where identity politics has become so toxic that the left are devouring each other.oxfordsimon said:
If this isn't a crisis, why is an 'independent' inquiry necessary?!dr_spyn said:What could possibly go wrong?
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That was interesting.rcs1000 said:This is a fascinating article on American economic insecurity:
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2016/05/my-secret-shame/476415/
And the UK is following the USA.
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Crisis what crisis, what need for an inquiry.
Jezza's little friends help with a faux morality tale.
http://www.stopwar.org.uk/index.php/news-comment/1932-stop-the-war-statement-29-04-16#.VyOhvkHlwTY.twitter0 -
It's the end of the World as we know it:
https://twitter.com/danpfeiffer/status/726119882475982848
Marco Rubio praises Donald Trump, says it's OK for the good of party unity for his delegates to support Trump.
Don't forget he has more delegates than Kasich.0 -
Where in the article does it state he spent $401k on his daughter's wedding ?AndyJS said:
Difficult to feel a lot of sympathy for the writer since he admits spending $401k on his daughter's wedding. I'm sure most people would like to spend $401k on their child's wedding but they don't because they can't afford it.rcs1000 said:This is a fascinating article on American economic insecurity:
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2016/05/my-secret-shame/476415/0 -
If Rubio does shift his delegates en masse, then Trump can effectively clinch things on Tuesday.Speedy said:It's the end of the World as we know it:
https://twitter.com/danpfeiffer/status/726119882475982848
Marco Rubio praises Donald Trump, says it's OK for the good of party unity for his delegates to support Trump.
Don't forget he has more delegates than Kasich.
Amazing what a bit of momentum can do.0 -
The Left's identity policies began in the 1980s when they aimed for a 'rainbow coalition' of non-whites, homosexuals, greens, feminists, 'youths' etc to defeat the 'mainstream' Conservative voting blocs in middle suburban London.Sean_F said:
I think it's rather sad. Could you honestly imagine Attlee, Gaitskell, Wilson, Callaghan, Kinnock, Blair having to commission an enquiry into anti-semitism in the Labour Party? But, we've reached a point where identity politics has become so toxic that the left are devouring each other.oxfordsimon said:
If this isn't a crisis, why is an 'independent' inquiry necessary?!dr_spyn said:What could possibly go wrong?
https://twitter.com/BBCBreaking/status/726130031211241478
The Lefts's problem now is that having achieved that demographically they discover that the aims of each individual band of the 'rainbow coalition' are not mutually compatible.
Meanwhile both 'middle England' and the Lefts's original wwc base looks on with disgust.
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Meanwhile Mike Pence is trying to reach for the fence again despite his endorsement of Ted Cruz:
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/source-indiana-gov-mike-pence-endorse-ted-cruz-n564811
"Indiana Gov. Mike Pence endorsed Ted Cruz on Friday ahead of the Hoosier State's critical primary. But he also commended Donald Trump for tapping into "the frustration of millions of working Americans."
"I'm not against anybody, but I will be voting for Ted Cruz," Pence said in a radio interview on WIBC in Indianapolis."
"I particularly want to commend Donald Trump, who I think has given voice to the frustration of millions of working Americans with the lack of progress in Washington, D.C.," the governor said. Pence added that he was not trying to tell Indiana voters who to support and that he will enthusiastically back whichever candidate wins the nomination."
So that might also be a flop for Cruz.0 -
I don't think I really want to know Labour's solution to the Jewish problem...0
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I wonder if it involves, as Naz Shah advocated, "Transportation"?brokenwheel said:I don't think I really want to know Labour's solution to the Jewish problem...
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Jeez - is that really necessary on a serious site like this.another_richard said:So after Richard Nabavi had a meltdown earlier this week we had TSE crybabying about Leaves version of Project Fear today.
WWWWHHHHIIIIIINNNNEEEE
Report back to CCHQ for a new briefing.0 -
I said weeks ago that the Cleveland convention will be a Trump lovefest and the Republican elite will try to pretend they never tried to stop him. Looks like it's starting to happen.Speedy said:It's the end of the World as we know it:
Marco Rubio praises Donald Trump, says it's OK for the good of party unity for his delegates to support Trump.
Don't forget he has more delegates than Kasich.0 -
It's amazing that professional politicians shift positions like the sand.oxfordsimon said:
If Rubio does shift his delegates en masse, then Trump can effectively clinch things on Tuesday.Speedy said:It's the end of the World as we know it:
https://twitter.com/danpfeiffer/status/726119882475982848
Marco Rubio praises Donald Trump, says it's OK for the good of party unity for his delegates to support Trump.
Don't forget he has more delegates than Kasich.
Amazing what a bit of momentum can do.
But only fools won't change opinion based on evidence.0 -
It is an excellent article on the underside of the American dream. Noteworthy how often medical issues come up as catastrophic financial events. It is easy to see why Trumpism is proving so popular, at least with a percentage of Americans.another_richard said:
That was interesting.rcs1000 said:This is a fascinating article on American economic insecurity:
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2016/05/my-secret-shame/476415/
And the UK is following the USA.
The root cause is people living beyond their means. This is something that has been explictly encouraged by our governments as a form of "economic stimulus".0 -
"Ask me my three priorities for government and I tell you: ..."LewisDuckworth said:
I wonder if it involves, as Naz Shah advocated, "Transportation"?brokenwheel said:I don't think I really want to know Labour's solution to the Jewish problem...
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It all started with the "Ain't No Jack In The Union Jack" publication.another_richard said:
The Left's identity policies began in the 1980s when they aimed for a 'rainbow coalition' of non-whites, homosexuals, greens, feminists, 'youths' etc to defeat the 'mainstream' Conservative voting blocs in middle suburban London.Sean_F said:
I think it's rather sad. Could you honestly imagine Attlee, Gaitskell, Wilson, Callaghan, Kinnock, Blair having to commission an enquiry into anti-semitism in the Labour Party? But, we've reached a point where identity politics has become so toxic that the left are devouring each other.oxfordsimon said:
If this isn't a crisis, why is an 'independent' inquiry necessary?!dr_spyn said:What could possibly go wrong?
https://twitter.com/BBCBreaking/status/726130031211241478
The Lefts's problem now is that having achieved that demographically they discover that the aims of each individual band of the 'rainbow coalition' are not mutually compatible.
Meanwhile both 'middle England' and the Lefts's original wwc base looks on with disgust.0 -
Living a little beyond your means was fine when real incomes were growing at 25% per decade. Now that they're growing at 2-3% a decade, it's become a struggle.foxinsoxuk said:
It is an excellent article on the underside of the American dream. Noteworthy how often medical issues come up as catastrophic financial events. It is easy to see why Trumpism is proving so popular, at least with a percentage of Americans.another_richard said:
That was interesting.rcs1000 said:This is a fascinating article on American economic insecurity:
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2016/05/my-secret-shame/476415/
And the UK is following the USA.
The root cause is people living beyond their means. This is something that has been explictly encouraged by our governments as a form of "economic stimulus".0 -
Not just for 'economic stimulus'.foxinsoxuk said:
It is an excellent article on the underside of the American dream. Noteworthy how often medical issues come up as catastrophic financial events. It is easy to see why Trumpism is proving so popular, at least with a percentage of Americans.another_richard said:
That was interesting.rcs1000 said:This is a fascinating article on American economic insecurity:
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2016/05/my-secret-shame/476415/
And the UK is following the USA.
The root cause is people living beyond their means. This is something that has been explictly encouraged by our governments as a form of "economic stimulus".
People tend to be happy when spending money on consumer tat, meals out, entertainment, holidays etc.
And people who are happy re-elect governments.
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Oddly enough I can't remember you responding similarly to, for example, the endless comments from Scott_P of a similar naturefelix said:
Jeez - is that really necessary on a serious site like this.another_richard said:So after Richard Nabavi had a meltdown earlier this week we had TSE crybabying about Leaves version of Project Fear today.
WWWWHHHHIIIIIINNNNEEEE
Report back to CCHQ for a new briefing.
I just love how so many PBers are one-eyed.
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Was that it on HIGFNY on Hug a Hitler...2 seconds.0
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The rainbow coalition worked when the issues were primarily economic and social, where it fell apart was when the issues became primarily cultural. This is in large part to Cameron's modernisation of the Tory party, but also to the economic consensus that had emerged.another_richard said:
The Left's identity policies began in the 1980s when they aimed for a 'rainbow coalition' of non-whites, homosexuals, greens, feminists, 'youths' etc to defeat the 'mainstream' Conservative voting blocs in middle suburban London.Sean_F said:
I think it's rather sad. Could you honestly imagine Attlee, Gaitskell, Wilson, Callaghan, Kinnock, Blair having to commission an enquiry into anti-semitism in the Labour Party? But, we've reached a point where identity politics has become so toxic that the left are devouring each other.oxfordsimon said:
If this isn't a crisis, why is an 'independent' inquiry necessary?!dr_spyn said:What could possibly go wrong?
https://twitter.com/BBCBreaking/status/726130031211241478
The Lefts's problem now is that having achieved that demographically they discover that the aims of each individual band of the 'rainbow coalition' are not mutually compatible.
Meanwhile both 'middle England' and the Lefts's original wwc base looks on with disgust.0 -
Having bet heavily (much too late) on trump nominee I am beginning to think that I should trade out and back trump for president. I think once the gop get behind he could look winnable and trade around 3.3.Sean_F said:
Living a little beyond your means was fine when real incomes were growing at 25% per decade. Now that they're growing at 2-3% a decade, it's become a struggle.foxinsoxuk said:
It is an excellent article on the underside of the American dream. Noteworthy how often medical issues come up as catastrophic financial events. It is easy to see why Trumpism is proving so popular, at least with a percentage of Americans.another_richard said:
That was interesting.rcs1000 said:This is a fascinating article on American economic insecurity:
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2016/05/my-secret-shame/476415/
And the UK is following the USA.
The root cause is people living beyond their means. This is something that has been explictly encouraged by our governments as a form of "economic stimulus".0 -
Does anyone know how many London boroughs Boris 'won' in 2008 and 2012 ?
I can see Zac winning:
Barnet
Bexley
Bromley
Havering
Hillingdon
Kensington
Kingston
Richmond
Sutton
Wandsworth
Westminter
Harrow (probably)
Hammersmith (possibly)
Croydon (possibly)
Which would Sadiq winning at least 18 boroughs.
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@Ruth_E_Davidson: Stop. Just stop.
Ken Livingstone uses a RAPE comparison when asked about Labour suspension https://t.co/jAjWPmZhYa0 -
“I’ve always said I’m going to support the Republican nominee, and that’s especially true now that it’s apparent that Hillary Clinton will be the Democrat nominee,”williamglenn said:
I said weeks ago that the Cleveland convention will be a Trump lovefest and the Republican elite will try to pretend they never tried to stop him. Looks like it's starting to happen.Speedy said:It's the end of the World as we know it:
Marco Rubio praises Donald Trump, says it's OK for the good of party unity for his delegates to support Trump.
Don't forget he has more delegates than Kasich.
That's like a boxer saying he'll train hard for his fight, especially now he knows he has an opponent
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And, of course, the individual components of the coalition have massively fractured and splintered over the intervening years.foxinsoxuk said:
The rainbow coalition worked when the issues were primarily economic and social, where it fell apart was when the issues became primarily cultural. This is in large part to Cameron's modernisation of the Tory party, but also to the economic consensus that had emerged.another_richard said:
The Left's identity policies began in the 1980s when they aimed for a 'rainbow coalition' of non-whites, homosexuals, greens, feminists, 'youths' etc to defeat the 'mainstream' Conservative voting blocs in middle suburban London.Sean_F said:
I think it's rather sad. Could you honestly imagine Attlee, Gaitskell, Wilson, Callaghan, Kinnock, Blair having to commission an enquiry into anti-semitism in the Labour Party? But, we've reached a point where identity politics has become so toxic that the left are devouring each other.oxfordsimon said:
If this isn't a crisis, why is an 'independent' inquiry necessary?!dr_spyn said:What could possibly go wrong?
https://twitter.com/BBCBreaking/status/726130031211241478
The Lefts's problem now is that having achieved that demographically they discover that the aims of each individual band of the 'rainbow coalition' are not mutually compatible.
Meanwhile both 'middle England' and the Lefts's original wwc base looks on with disgust.
These days, the 'homosexual' groups extend to LGBTTAAI+ (if not more)...
Edit - oops, I missed out QQ - my bad!0 -
Ken's Notes
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1. Hitler = Bad
2. Israel = Bad
3. Hitler = Israel
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Zac will win Merton. Figures are looking really good in Harrow. Amazingly positive rumours about Camden!another_richard said:Does anyone know how many London boroughs Boris 'won' in 2008 and 2012 ?
I can see Zac winning:
Barnet
Bexley
Bromley
Havering
Hillingdon
Kensington
Kingston
Richmond
Sutton
Wandsworth
Westminter
Harrow (probably)
Hammersmith (possibly)
Croydon (possibly)
Which would Sadiq winning at least 18 boroughs.0 -
I don't like the nasty personal attacks which have escalated in the past few weeks. Not sure I've seen anything from Scott-P mindlessly attacking individuals on the site. Like many others I comment far less frequently now.another_richard said:
Oddly enough I can't remember you responding similarly to, for example, the endless comments from Scott_P of a similar naturefelix said:
Jeez - is that really necessary on a serious site like this.another_richard said:So after Richard Nabavi had a meltdown earlier this week we had TSE crybabying about Leaves version of Project Fear today.
WWWWHHHHIIIIIINNNNEEEE
Report back to CCHQ for a new briefing.
I just love how so many PBers are one-eyed.0 -
Ouch, ouch, ouchScott_P said:@Ruth_E_Davidson: Stop. Just stop.
Ken Livingstone uses a RAPE comparison when asked about Labour suspension https://t.co/jAjWPmZhYa
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I honestly thought it couldn't get any worse from Ken. But it has if this is true.Scott_P said:@Ruth_E_Davidson: Stop. Just stop.
Ken Livingstone uses a RAPE comparison when asked about Labour suspension https://t.co/jAjWPmZhYa0 -
All Ken now needs to do is start quoting from Chairman Mao little red book....0
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London: Labour normally blurt the postal vote figures but haven't.
Why?:
1. Electoral Commission on their case - unlikely, soft as sh*te.
2. Jezza says don't do it...ha ha bloody ha!
3. Not enough Labour people at the counts...possible.
4. Labour finally realised that blurting aids the Tories...likely.
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Indeed - Dickens encapsulates the difference between misery and happiness so wonderfully in David Copperfield - that is one Victorian value worth a re-visit.Sean_F said:
Living a little beyond your means was fine when real incomes were growing at 25% per decade. Now that they're growing at 2-3% a decade, it's become a struggle.foxinsoxuk said:
It is an excellent article on the underside of the American dream. Noteworthy how often medical issues come up as catastrophic financial events. It is easy to see why Trumpism is proving so popular, at least with a percentage of Americans.another_richard said:
That was interesting.rcs1000 said:This is a fascinating article on American economic insecurity:
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2016/05/my-secret-shame/476415/
And the UK is following the USA.
The root cause is people living beyond their means. This is something that has been explictly encouraged by our governments as a form of "economic stimulus".0 -
@alexmassie: Labour's press team is so good they're going to be able to make "Zionist Hitler" a five day story. Not everyone could manage that.0
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Judge led I hope.FrancisUrquhart said:Labour to launch anti-Semitism inquiry
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At this rate they will be giving media advice to Donald Trump...Scott_P said:@alexmassie: Labour's press team is so good they're going to be able to make "Zionist Hitler" a five day story. Not everyone could manage that.
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On the BBC? - you were lucky to get 2 seconds.FrancisUrquhart said:Was that it on HIGFNY on Hug a Hitler...2 seconds.
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Labour had a 4231 vote lead over the Conservatives in Merton borough last year.Dixie said:
Zac will win Merton. Figures are looking really good in Harrow. Amazingly positive rumours about Camden!another_richard said:Does anyone know how many London boroughs Boris 'won' in 2008 and 2012 ?
I can see Zac winning:
Barnet
Bexley
Bromley
Havering
Hillingdon
Kensington
Kingston
Richmond
Sutton
Wandsworth
Westminter
Harrow (probably)
Hammersmith (possibly)
Croydon (possibly)
Which would Sadiq winning at least 18 boroughs.
Why are you so confident that Zac will win there ? Differential turnout or second preferences from middle class LibDems in Wimbledon and UKIP voters ?
As to Camden - its possible that Zac might do better than expected there but I hope you're not suggesting that has actually a chance of winning the borough ?
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Will Ken be chairing it?Hertsmere_Pubgoer said:
Judge led I hope.FrancisUrquhart said:Labour to launch anti-Semitism inquiry
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Why do Labour need an inquiry...what is there to work out....It isn't like considering the future energy needs of the nation or how to reform the education system.
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Presumably other Lab. members will have had the Jezza Email today
"Dear John,
I wanted to send you this message today to thank you and update you on our election campaigns. But it is important that I mention the events of the last few days.
Let me make it clear that Labour is implacably opposed to any form of racism, including anti-Semitism, and I will personally ensure that Labour introduces measures to take tough action on this matter."
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I hear Nick Griffin is at a loose end these days....AndyJS said:
Will Ken be chairing it?Hertsmere_Pubgoer said:
Judge led I hope.FrancisUrquhart said:Labour to launch anti-Semitism inquiry
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Zac won't win Merton or Camden.Dixie said:
Zac will win Merton. Figures are looking really good in Harrow. Amazingly positive rumours about Camden!another_richard said:Does anyone know how many London boroughs Boris 'won' in 2008 and 2012 ?
I can see Zac winning:
Barnet
Bexley
Bromley
Havering
Hillingdon
Kensington
Kingston
Richmond
Sutton
Wandsworth
Westminter
Harrow (probably)
Hammersmith (possibly)
Croydon (possibly)
Which would Sadiq winning at least 18 boroughs.0 -
Labour MP in Mitcham/Morden has strong following that doesn't always transfer to other elections. There's been a stronger focus by Zac in the borough than Boris did. Labour Council in disarray - sackings, resignations. Plus Assembly Member candidate for Tories is a Merton man where as before always Wandsworth, some Reds will vote for him and Zac. Lastly, local Labour very Blairite, not fans of Khan or Corbyn so they are doing less. Oh, and quite strong Lib Dem in Wimbledon part and they more often break Tory at this election.another_richard said:
Labour had a 4231 vote lead over the Conservatives in Merton borough last year.Dixie said:
Zac will win Merton. Figures are looking really good in Harrow. Amazingly positive rumours about Camden!another_richard said:Does anyone know how many London boroughs Boris 'won' in 2008 and 2012 ?
I can see Zac winning:
Barnet
Bexley
Bromley
Havering
Hillingdon
Kensington
Kingston
Richmond
Sutton
Wandsworth
Westminter
Harrow (probably)
Hammersmith (possibly)
Croydon (possibly)
Which would Sadiq winning at least 18 boroughs.
Why are you so confident that Zac will win there ? Differential turnout or second preferences from middle class LibDems in Wimbledon and UKIP voters ?
As to Camden - its possible that Zac might do better than expected there but I hope you're not suggesting that has actually a chance of winning the borough ?0 -
That's fair enough.felix said:
I don't like the nasty personal attacks which have escalated in the past few weeks. Not sure I've seen anything from Scott-P mindlessly attacking individuals on the site. Like many others I comment far less frequently now.another_richard said:
Oddly enough I can't remember you responding similarly to, for example, the endless comments from Scott_P of a similar naturefelix said:
Jeez - is that really necessary on a serious site like this.another_richard said:So after Richard Nabavi had a meltdown earlier this week we had TSE crybabying about Leaves version of Project Fear today.
WWWWHHHHIIIIIINNNNEEEE
Report back to CCHQ for a new briefing.
I just love how so many PBers are one-eyed.
But we're all big boys (and some girls) here and there's never been any shortage of 'give and take' and sometimes some personal while I've been reading this site.
The thing to do is either to be willing to 'give and take' and accept all the party propaganda for the bollox it is or to remain reasonably logical and factual.
When you don't you're liable to be laughed at.
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I do find Camden unbelievable, quite unbelievable. It is what Labour are telling me. They could be lying or wrong.Dixie said:
Labour MP in Mitcham/Morden has strong following that doesn't always transfer to other elections. There's been a stronger focus by Zac in the borough than Boris did. Labour Council in disarray - sackings, resignations. Plus Assembly Member candidate for Tories is a Merton man where as before always Wandsworth, some Reds will vote for him and Zac. Lastly, local Labour very Blairite, not fans of Khan or Corbyn so they are doing less. Oh, and quite strong Lib Dem in Wimbledon part and they more often break Tory at this election.another_richard said:
Labour had a 4231 vote lead over the Conservatives in Merton borough last year.Dixie said:
Zac will win Merton. Figures are looking really good in Harrow. Amazingly positive rumours about Camden!another_richard said:Does anyone know how many London boroughs Boris 'won' in 2008 and 2012 ?
I can see Zac winning:
Barnet
Bexley
Bromley
Havering
Hillingdon
Kensington
Kingston
Richmond
Sutton
Wandsworth
Westminter
Harrow (probably)
Hammersmith (possibly)
Croydon (possibly)
Which would Sadiq winning at least 18 boroughs.
Why are you so confident that Zac will win there ? Differential turnout or second preferences from middle class LibDems in Wimbledon and UKIP voters ?
As to Camden - its possible that Zac might do better than expected there but I hope you're not suggesting that has actually a chance of winning the borough ?0 -
HIGNFY was pretty merciless on ED M however.weejonnie said:
On the BBC? - you were lucky to get 2 seconds.FrancisUrquhart said:Was that it on HIGFNY on Hug a Hitler...2 seconds.
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Terse. Although honestly more words just gives people more to pick apart I suppose.bigjohnowls said:Presumably other Lab. members will have had the Jezza Email today
"Dear John,
I wanted to send you this message today to thank you and update you on our election campaigns. But it is important that I mention the events of the last few days.
Let me make it clear that Labour is implacably opposed to any form of racism, including anti-Semitism, and I will personally ensure that Labour introduces measures to take tough action on this matter."
Jezza0 -
It's like reminding the ex-wife of an affair you had. Let those dogs lie. No one believes him anyway. For we Tories, we need this to keep this running.kle4 said:
Terse. Although honestly more words just gives people more to pick apart I suppose.bigjohnowls said:Presumably other Lab. members will have had the Jezza Email today
"Dear John,
I wanted to send you this message today to thank you and update you on our election campaigns. But it is important that I mention the events of the last few days.
Let me make it clear that Labour is implacably opposed to any form of racism, including anti-Semitism, and I will personally ensure that Labour introduces measures to take tough action on this matter."
Jezza0 -
Thats the first bit then there is a section about locals and helping in key council areaskle4 said:
Terse. Although honestly more words just gives people more to pick apart I suppose.bigjohnowls said:Presumably other Lab. members will have had the Jezza Email today
"Dear John,
I wanted to send you this message today to thank you and update you on our election campaigns. But it is important that I mention the events of the last few days.
Let me make it clear that Labour is implacably opposed to any form of racism, including anti-Semitism, and I will personally ensure that Labour introduces measures to take tough action on this matter."
Jezza0 -
It is a week before elections, so largely apolitical this week, as you would expect.weejonnie said:
On the BBC? - you were lucky to get 2 seconds.FrancisUrquhart said:Was that it on HIGFNY on Hug a Hitler...2 seconds.
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Merton borough elections 2014:Dixie said:
Labour MP in Mitcham/Morden has strong following that doesn't always transfer to other elections. There's been a stronger focus by Zac in the borough than Boris did. Labour Council in disarray - sackings, resignations. Plus Assembly Member candidate for Tories is a Merton man where as before always Wandsworth, some Reds will vote for him and Zac. Lastly, local Labour very Blairite, not fans of Khan or Corbyn so they are doing less. Oh, and quite strong Lib Dem in Wimbledon part and they more often break Tory at this election.another_richard said:
Labour had a 4231 vote lead over the Conservatives in Merton borough last year.Dixie said:
Zac will win Merton. Figures are looking really good in Harrow. Amazingly positive rumours about Camden!another_richard said:Does anyone know how many London boroughs Boris 'won' in 2008 and 2012 ?
I can see Zac winning:
Barnet
Bexley
Bromley
Havering
Hillingdon
Kensington
Kingston
Richmond
Sutton
Wandsworth
Westminter
Harrow (probably)
Hammersmith (possibly)
Croydon (possibly)
Which would Sadiq winning at least 18 boroughs.
Why are you so confident that Zac will win there ? Differential turnout or second preferences from middle class LibDems in Wimbledon and UKIP voters ?
As to Camden - its possible that Zac might do better than expected there but I hope you're not suggesting that has actually a chance of winning the borough ?
Lab 29,206
Con 18,807
LibD 6,682
UKIP 6,112
http://www.andrewteale.me.uk/leap/results/2014/28/
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Dunno if anyone else has already corrected you ... 401(k) is the American pensions account. Still, crazy to spend your pension fund on your daughter's wedding!AndyJS said:
Difficult to feel a lot of sympathy for the writer since he admits spending $401k on his daughter's wedding. I'm sure most people would like to spend $401k on their child's wedding but they don't because they can't afford it.rcs1000 said:This is a fascinating article on American economic insecurity:
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2016/05/my-secret-shame/476415/
(Can't say I have lots of sympathy either, I save like mad due to health/disability issues meaning I never really know if I'm on the brink of being unable to work for a couple of years, as happens periodically. I've never felt comfortable unless I had enough cash readily accessible in the bank to pay my bills for 6 months, and preferably a year, without eating into long run savings and investments. If I was subject to the US system of gigantic medical bills that could fall on my head at random, I think I'd be even more cautious. But if all UK consumers scrimped and saved and generally behaved the way I do, it would screw the economy up royally.)0 -
Sean_F said:
Zac won't win Merton or Camden.Dixie said:
Zac will win Merton. Figures are looking really good in Harrow. Amazingly positive rumours about Camden!another_richard said:Does anyone know how many London boroughs Boris 'won' in 2008 and 2012 ?
I can see Zac winning:
Barnet
Bexley
Bromley
Havering
Hillingdon
Kensington
Kingston
Richmond
Sutton
Wandsworth
Westminter
Harrow (probably)
Hammersmith (possibly)
Croydon (possibly)
Which would Sadiq winning at least 18 boroughs.
I agree it is hard to get proper info. I'm confident about Merton.0 -
There are a lot of Jewish voters in Camden.Dixie said:
I do find Camden unbelievable, quite unbelievable. It is what Labour are telling me. They could be lying or wrong.Dixie said:
Labour MP in Mitcham/Morden has strong following that doesn't always transfer to other elections. There's been a stronger focus by Zac in the borough than Boris did. Labour Council in disarray - sackings, resignations. Plus Assembly Member candidate for Tories is a Merton man where as before always Wandsworth, some Reds will vote for him and Zac. Lastly, local Labour very Blairite, not fans of Khan or Corbyn so they are doing less. Oh, and quite strong Lib Dem in Wimbledon part and they more often break Tory at this election.another_richard said:
Labour had a 4231 vote lead over the Conservatives in Merton borough last year.Dixie said:
Zac will win Merton. Figures are looking really good in Harrow. Amazingly positive rumours about Camden!another_richard said:Does anyone know how many London boroughs Boris 'won' in 2008 and 2012 ?
I can see Zac winning:
Barnet
Bexley
Bromley
Havering
Hillingdon
Kensington
Kingston
Richmond
Sutton
Wandsworth
Westminter
Harrow (probably)
Hammersmith (possibly)
Croydon (possibly)
Which would Sadiq winning at least 18 boroughs.
Why are you so confident that Zac will win there ? Differential turnout or second preferences from middle class LibDems in Wimbledon and UKIP voters ?
As to Camden - its possible that Zac might do better than expected there but I hope you're not suggesting that has actually a chance of winning the borough ?-1 -
Trump has edged up to 996 delegates.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/republican_delegate_count.html0 -
Council is different as in 2014 Tories split with 5 going to UKIP. Disaster. Labour now under pressure. GE was much better and we've pushed on again.another_richard said:
Merton borough elections 2014:Dixie said:
Labour MP in Mitcham/Morden has strong following that doesn't always transfer to other elections. There's been a stronger focus by Zac in the borough than Boris did. Labour Council in disarray - sackings, resignations. Plus Assembly Member candidate for Tories is a Merton man where as before always Wandsworth, some Reds will vote for him and Zac. Lastly, local Labour very Blairite, not fans of Khan or Corbyn so they are doing less. Oh, and quite strong Lib Dem in Wimbledon part and they more often break Tory at this election.another_richard said:
Labour had a 4231 vote lead over the Conservatives in Merton borough last year.Dixie said:
Zac will win Merton. Figures are looking really good in Harrow. Amazingly positive rumours about Camden!another_richard said:Does anyone know how many London boroughs Boris 'won' in 2008 and 2012 ?
I can see Zac winning:
Barnet
Bexley
Bromley
Havering
Hillingdon
Kensington
Kingston
Richmond
Sutton
Wandsworth
Westminter
Harrow (probably)
Hammersmith (possibly)
Croydon (possibly)
Which would Sadiq winning at least 18 boroughs.
Why are you so confident that Zac will win there ? Differential turnout or second preferences from middle class LibDems in Wimbledon and UKIP voters ?
As to Camden - its possible that Zac might do better than expected there but I hope you're not suggesting that has actually a chance of winning the borough ?
Lab 29,206
Con 18,807
LibD 6,682
UKIP 6,112
http://www.andrewteale.me.uk/leap/results/2014/28/0 -
I have list track, he is still going to be short in the end right?AndyJS said:Trump has edged up to 996 delegates.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/republican_delegate_count.html0 -
A far bigger factor in next week's elections, rather than the Livingstone fiasco, will be 5 million public sector workers discovering this week that their pay has been cut by Osbrone's very stealth tax.0
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Has just claimed 1001 - and Rubio seems to be endorsing him as well. Unless someone knobbles him or his delegates then this race is over.AndyJS said:Trump has edged up to 996 delegates.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/republican_delegate_count.html0 -
I just knew he shouldn't have called it the Stealth Tax, it just sounds bad!Chris_A said:A far bigger factor in next week's elections, rather than the Livingstone fiasco, will be 5 million public sector workers discovering this week that their pay has been cut by Osbrone's very stealth tax.
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Indeed. It's not my view, it is Labour's. I can't corroborate. But I like hearing it.AndyJS said:
There are a lot of Jewish voters in Camden.Dixie said:
I do find Camden unbelievable, quite unbelievable. It is what Labour are telling me. They could be lying or wrong.Dixie said:
Labour MP in Mitcham/Morden has strong following that doesn't always transfer to other elections. There's been a stronger focus by Zac in the borough than Boris did. Labour Council in disarray - sackings, resignations. Plus Assembly Member candidate for Tories is a Merton man where as before always Wandsworth, some Reds will vote for him and Zac. Lastly, local Labour very Blairite, not fans of Khan or Corbyn so they are doing less. Oh, and quite strong Lib Dem in Wimbledon part and they more often break Tory at this election.another_richard said:
Labour had a 4231 vote lead over the Conservatives in Merton borough last year.Dixie said:
Zac will win Merton. Figures are looking really good in Harrow. Amazingly positive rumours about Camden!another_richard said:Does anyone know how many London boroughs Boris 'won' in 2008 and 2012 ?
I can see Zac winning:
Barnet
Bexley
Bromley
Havering
Hillingdon
Kensington
Kingston
Richmond
Sutton
Wandsworth
Westminter
Harrow (probably)
Hammersmith (possibly)
Croydon (possibly)
Which would Sadiq winning at least 18 boroughs.
Why are you so confident that Zac will win there ? Differential turnout or second preferences from middle class LibDems in Wimbledon and UKIP voters ?
As to Camden - its possible that Zac might do better than expected there but I hope you're not suggesting that has actually a chance of winning the borough ?0 -
This has got to be the twitter post of the day. (As posted below)
Ian Austin @IanAustinMP
"This row about Ken Livingstone & Hitler is so unfair. One was a horrible extremist obsessed with Jews. The other was leader of Nazi Germany"0 -
Would you give details please.Chris_A said:A far bigger factor in next week's elections, rather than the Livingstone fiasco, will be 5 million public sector workers discovering this week that their pay has been cut by Osbrone's very stealth tax.
(I'm not being argumentative but genuinely interested).
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He's going to easily reach 1,237, doesn't even require Indiana now. New Jersey, West Virginia and California will suffice.FrancisUrquhart said:
I have list track, he is still going to be short in the end right?AndyJS said:Trump has edged up to 996 delegates.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/republican_delegate_count.html0 -
And who would have thought that was possible a year ago?AndyJS said:
He's going to easily reach 1,237, doesn't even require Indiana now. New Jersey, West Virginia and California will suffice.FrancisUrquhart said:
I have list track, he is still going to be short in the end right?AndyJS said:Trump has edged up to 996 delegates.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/republican_delegate_count.html0 -
Should do a lot of damageTCPoliticalBetting said:This has got to be the twitter post of the day. (As posted below)
Ian Austin @IanAustinMP
"This row about Ken Livingstone & Hitler is so unfair. One was a horrible extremist obsessed with Jews. The other was leader of Nazi Germany"0 -
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2016-36173172
The Left on both sides of the Atlantic seem incapable of controlling themselves it would seem.0
