An anecdote from Flint, a little further east along the coast. On my coastal walk, I stopped off to look at the ruined castle. I was just about to start off when a man approached me. He asked me if I was doing a charity walk; when I said I was, he said he had seen out motorhome in the car park. He had been about to break into it, but had then seen the charity banner in a window and decided against it!
A few days later I met someone on the Wirral who said that a lot of problem families in the area get 'dumped' on Flint and the other north Wales towns. Goodness knows how English councils manage to send people to Wales (although as the walk was in 2002, it might have occurred before devolution).
On a later walk in the area years later, we passed a group of men and women - perhaps in their early twenties - on some scrubland who were drinking lager and swearing loudly at each other, despite it being only one in the afternoon. A childrens play park was about fifty metres away ...
I know coastal towns have problems, but this felt much grittier than most.
Former President Trump condemned his successor's handling of the crisis in Afghanistan on Friday, as the Taliban continued their lightning advance and U.S. personnel prepared to destroy documents and evacuate the embassy in Kabul.
'Tragic mess in Afghanistan, a completely open and broken Border, Crime at record levels, oil prices through the roof, inflation rising, and taken advantage of by the entire world—DO YOU MISS ME YET?' he said in a short emailed statement.
Given that oilfield exploration is not a devoilved matter, you'd have been spluttering if she had tried to close it doen or to approve it directly.
She is 'spluttering' over an issue that she cannot hide behind Boris but as importantly oil and gas is integral to Scotland independence case
Not nearly so much now: far more on renewables. The world hass moved on. Which is the issue here - and it will not be anyh more comfortable for Mr Johnson and the Tories, perhaps less so.
Straight question
If Boris approves Cambo will Sturgeon join the Greens and Labour and condemn the decision
Or agree with it
And there is also a huge cost to Mr Johnson if he does that with COP26 coming up.
Given that oilfield exploration is not a devoilved matter, you'd have been spluttering if she had tried to close it doen or to approve it directly.
She is 'spluttering' over an issue that she cannot hide behind Boris but as importantly oil and gas is integral to Scotland independence case
Not nearly so much now: far more on renewables. The world hass moved on. Which is the issue here - and it will not be anyh more comfortable for Mr Johnson and the Tories, perhaps less so.
Straight question
If Boris approves Cambo will Sturgeon join the Greens and Labour and condemn the decision
Or agree with it
I really don't know - we are in that sort of zone increasingly.
Edit: but the situation will change almost monthloy with COP26 coming up. So timing is also an issue.
Given that oilfield exploration is not a devoilved matter, you'd have been spluttering if she had tried to close it doen or to approve it directly.
She is 'spluttering' over an issue that she cannot hide behind Boris but as importantly oil and gas is integral to Scotland independence case
Not nearly so much now: far more on renewables. The world hass moved on. Which is the issue here - and it will not be anyh more comfortable for Mr Johnson and the Tories, perhaps less so.
Straight question
If Boris approves Cambo will Sturgeon join the Greens and Labour and condemn the decision
Or agree with it
And there is also a huge cost to Mr Johnson if he does that with COP26 coming up.
I hope Boris affirms the licence and stands up for Scottish jobs
Indeed, he has already made the point HMG could be sued by the Company as the licence has already been granted
Returning briefly to an earlier discussion, topping made a good point about themes of fantasy often being done better in non fantasy, and I often think of sci fi that way - is there a reason the story is sci fi? Usually yes, questions that can only be explored that way.
With fantasy I'm more forgiving as I like the creativity to be any genre, then add magic if you want, or anything else. Hence why if it is 'traditional' tolkienesque it needs to be very well written.
Impossible to recommend the best, too varied and it depends on style and your mood, but in the last year The Grace of Kings by Ken Liu was a great Chinese inspired tale, and The City by Stella Gemmel I found unconventional but compelling.
I should perhaps not admit this, but one of my favourite books is "The Time Travellers Wife'. Which is basically fantasy chick-lit. I don't know why I like it so much, but it's an easy, pleasant read, with a couple of traumatic moments that still get to me, despite familiarity.
My absolute favourite book is a scifi one, which is also kind-of fantasy: Intervention, by Julian May.
Admitting to liking lowbrow fiction takes a certain sang froid, since people are SO snobbish about books (and music, not so much about art). I love Richelle Mead's Succubus fantasy series - hilarious, sexy and clever plot (if you like Penny in the Big Bang Theory you'll like this) - but I'd never have admitted it when I was an MP.
Returning briefly to an earlier discussion, topping made a good point about themes of fantasy often being done better in non fantasy, and I often think of sci fi that way - is there a reason the story is sci fi? Usually yes, questions that can only be explored that way.
With fantasy I'm more forgiving as I like the creativity to be any genre, then add magic if you want, or anything else. Hence why if it is 'traditional' tolkienesque it needs to be very well written.
Impossible to recommend the best, too varied and it depends on style and your mood, but in the last year The Grace of Kings by Ken Liu was a great Chinese inspired tale, and The City by Stella Gemmel I found unconventional but compelling.
I should perhaps not admit this, but one of my favourite books is "The Time Travellers Wife'. Which is basically fantasy chick-lit. I don't know why I like it so much, but it's an easy, pleasant read, with a couple of traumatic moments that still get to me, despite familiarity.
My absolute favourite book is a scifi one, which is also kind-of fantasy: Intervention, by Julian May.
Admitting to liking lowbrow fiction takes a certain sang froid, since people are SO snobbish about books (and music, not so much about art). I love Richelle Mead's Succubus fantasy series - hilarious, sexy and clever plot (if you like Penny in the Big Bang Theory you'll like this) - but I'd never have admitted it when I was an MP.
I love the Richard Hannay novels by John Buchan.
Dick Francis knew how to keep the pages turning (or was it his wife?).
Given that oilfield exploration is not a devoilved matter, you'd have been spluttering if she had tried to close it doen or to approve it directly.
She is 'spluttering' over an issue that she cannot hide behind Boris but as importantly oil and gas is integral to Scotland independence case
Not nearly so much now: far more on renewables. The world hass moved on. Which is the issue here - and it will not be anyh more comfortable for Mr Johnson and the Tories, perhaps less so.
Straight question
If Boris approves Cambo will Sturgeon join the Greens and Labour and condemn the decision
Or agree with it
And there is also a huge cost to Mr Johnson if he does that with COP26 coming up.
What cost ?
The oil is still needed and will be for the time being. Most people realise that even if a few eco crackpots think oil Just equals petrol
Given that oilfield exploration is not a devoilved matter, you'd have been spluttering if she had tried to close it doen or to approve it directly.
She is 'spluttering' over an issue that she cannot hide behind Boris but as importantly oil and gas is integral to Scotland independence case
Not nearly so much now: far more on renewables. The world hass moved on. Which is the issue here - and it will not be anyh more comfortable for Mr Johnson and the Tories, perhaps less so.
Straight question
If Boris approves Cambo will Sturgeon join the Greens and Labour and condemn the decision
Or agree with it
I really don't know - we are in that sort of zone increasingly.
Edit: but the situation will change almost monthloy with COP26 coming up. So timing is also an issue.
It's a very rare example of the Scottish Government's default position (oppose the UK Government over practically everything) causing it grief with some of its own supporters. Are there any others?
Anyway, if Scotland were to become independent tomorrow and thence to forcibly shutter its oil extraction and petrochemicals industries, then it could certainly stake a claim to global moral leadership - but moral leadership doesn't pay the bills, as attested to by, for example, the economically crippled condition of post-War Britain.
Given that oilfield exploration is not a devoilved matter, you'd have been spluttering if she had tried to close it doen or to approve it directly.
She is 'spluttering' over an issue that she cannot hide behind Boris but as importantly oil and gas is integral to Scotland independence case
Not nearly so much now: far more on renewables. The world hass moved on. Which is the issue here - and it will not be anyh more comfortable for Mr Johnson and the Tories, perhaps less so.
Straight question
If Boris approves Cambo will Sturgeon join the Greens and Labour and condemn the decision
Or agree with it
I really don't know - we are in that sort of zone increasingly.
Edit: but the situation will change almost monthloy with COP26 coming up. So timing is also an issue.
It's a very rare example of the Scottish Government's default position (oppose the UK Government over practically everything) causing it grief with some of its own supporters. Are there any others?
Anyway, if Scotland were to become independent tomorrow and thence to forcibly shutter its oil extraction and petrochemicals industries, then it could certainly stake a claim to global moral leadership - but moral leadership doesn't pay the bills, as attested to by, for example, the economically crippled condition of post-War Britain.
Scotland has over 150,000 jobs in the oil and gas industry and the one thing that the SNP cannot do without gaining huge unpopularity is decimate this industry
It is alleged the Plymouth shooter has his shotgun licence approved again last month, after it had been revoked in 2020
A gunman who killed his mother and four passersby, including a three-year-old girl, had his firearms licence revoked in December, but police reinstated it last month after he attended an anger management course.
Police will face an investigation over their dealings with Jake Davison, 22, who expressed sympathy for the “incel” movement and a keen interest in mass shootings. One resident from Plymouth, where the killing spree took place, said Davison’s family had sought treatment for his mental health issues.
Given that oilfield exploration is not a devoilved matter, you'd have been spluttering if she had tried to close it doen or to approve it directly.
She is 'spluttering' over an issue that she cannot hide behind Boris but as importantly oil and gas is integral to Scotland independence case
Not nearly so much now: far more on renewables. The world hass moved on. Which is the issue here - and it will not be anyh more comfortable for Mr Johnson and the Tories, perhaps less so.
Straight question
If Boris approves Cambo will Sturgeon join the Greens and Labour and condemn the decision
Or agree with it
I really don't know - we are in that sort of zone increasingly.
Edit: but the situation will change almost monthloy with COP26 coming up. So timing is also an issue.
It's a very rare example of the Scottish Government's default position (oppose the UK Government over practically everything) causing it grief with some of its own supporters. Are there any others?
Anyway, if Scotland were to become independent tomorrow and thence to forcibly shutter its oil extraction and petrochemicals industries, then it could certainly stake a claim to global moral leadership - but moral leadership doesn't pay the bills, as attested to by, for example, the economically crippled condition of post-War Britain.
Scotland has over 150,000 jobs in the oil and gas industry and the one thing that the SNP cannot do without gaining huge unpopularity is decimate this industry
But if they don’t decimate it they will annoy many of their own supporters and green activists, lobbyists, NGOs and charities as well as getting lots of angry comments on Twitter.
It is alleged the Plymouth shooter has his shotgun licence approved again last month, after it had been revoked in 2020
A gunman who killed his mother and four passersby, including a three-year-old girl, had his firearms licence revoked in December, but police reinstated it last month after he attended an anger management course.
Police will face an investigation over their dealings with Jake Davison, 22, who expressed sympathy for the “incel” movement and a keen interest in mass shootings. One resident from Plymouth, where the killing spree took place, said Davison’s family had sought treatment for his mental health issues.
It is alleged the Plymouth shooter has his shotgun licence approved again last month, after it had been revoked in 2020
A gunman who killed his mother and four passersby, including a three-year-old girl, had his firearms licence revoked in December, but police reinstated it last month after he attended an anger management course.
Police will face an investigation over their dealings with Jake Davison, 22, who expressed sympathy for the “incel” movement and a keen interest in mass shootings. One resident from Plymouth, where the killing spree took place, said Davison’s family had sought treatment for his mental health issues.
A Cardiff University pharmacy student died within hours of being told she had failed a crucial examination though it was later updated by the University as a pass
However, the 21 year old never saw the update and was found on rocks below the Britannia Bridge on the 8th July last year
It is alleged the Plymouth shooter has his shotgun licence approved again last month, after it had been revoked in 2020
A gunman who killed his mother and four passersby, including a three-year-old girl, had his firearms licence revoked in December, but police reinstated it last month after he attended an anger management course.
Police will face an investigation over their dealings with Jake Davison, 22, who expressed sympathy for the “incel” movement and a keen interest in mass shootings. One resident from Plymouth, where the killing spree took place, said Davison’s family had sought treatment for his mental health issues.
This is just the kind of incident that could lead to a further tightening of firearms legislation, as happened post-Dunblane.
Oh so he did kill some randoms. The terrorism label is perhaps more appropriate in that case.
"Davison’s family had sought treatment for his mental health issues."
This is the real issue. Underfunded mental health services.
Starmer needs to attack on this one.
I think he’d have more success going on the gun licence angle. Might look a bit insensitive to imply that people with mental health problems might go and kill a lot of people.
Given that oilfield exploration is not a devoilved matter, you'd have been spluttering if she had tried to close it doen or to approve it directly.
She is 'spluttering' over an issue that she cannot hide behind Boris but as importantly oil and gas is integral to Scotland independence case
Not nearly so much now: far more on renewables. The world hass moved on. Which is the issue here - and it will not be anyh more comfortable for Mr Johnson and the Tories, perhaps less so.
Straight question
If Boris approves Cambo will Sturgeon join the Greens and Labour and condemn the decision
Or agree with it
I really don't know - we are in that sort of zone increasingly.
Edit: but the situation will change almost monthloy with COP26 coming up. So timing is also an issue.
It's a very rare example of the Scottish Government's default position (oppose the UK Government over practically everything) causing it grief with some of its own supporters. Are there any others?
Anyway, if Scotland were to become independent tomorrow and thence to forcibly shutter its oil extraction and petrochemicals industries, then it could certainly stake a claim to global moral leadership - but moral leadership doesn't pay the bills, as attested to by, for example, the economically crippled condition of post-War Britain.
Scotland has over 150,000 jobs in the oil and gas industry and the one thing that the SNP cannot do without gaining huge unpopularity is decimate this industry
But if they don’t decimate it they will annoy many of their own supporters and green activists, lobbyists, NGOs and charities as well as getting lots of angry comments on Twitter.
And that is why she is trying to hide behind Boris
Theres plenty of crap to spread around. Undoubtedly we and the USA have plenty. But theres no real getting away from the length of time and local leaders and/or people not wanting to build a functioning state if it remains do weak. Is that what powerful interests wanted, for fear of a powerful state.
There are plenty of countries like that. Paper leviathan I saw them called.
I get the sense the "Right" are claiming this is a failure of the "Left" and trying to make some political capital.
To be fair, we did install Karzai in Kabul in 2001but instead of concentrating on Afghan political, military and economic reconstruction, American and western interests moved to Iraq and Saddam Hussein.
Had overthrowing Saddam not been on the agenda, I suspect we'd have seen a deeper commitment to Afghanistan which might have left us in a very different position.
Not for the first time, the Americans left the job unfinished ad the consequences of that are coming back to haunt them now.
The point that going into Iraq distracted from the need to focus on Afghanistan, as well as compounding our error by generating yet more regional resistance, was well made on the radio this morning by, I believe, a Tory MP. If only they had been more prescient at the time.
Given that oilfield exploration is not a devoilved matter, you'd have been spluttering if she had tried to close it doen or to approve it directly.
She is 'spluttering' over an issue that she cannot hide behind Boris but as importantly oil and gas is integral to Scotland independence case
Not nearly so much now: far more on renewables. The world hass moved on. Which is the issue here - and it will not be anyh more comfortable for Mr Johnson and the Tories, perhaps less so.
Straight question
If Boris approves Cambo will Sturgeon join the Greens and Labour and condemn the decision
Or agree with it
I really don't know - we are in that sort of zone increasingly.
Edit: but the situation will change almost monthloy with COP26 coming up. So timing is also an issue.
It's a very rare example of the Scottish Government's default position (oppose the UK Government over practically everything) causing it grief with some of its own supporters. Are there any others?
Anyway, if Scotland were to become independent tomorrow and thence to forcibly shutter its oil extraction and petrochemicals industries, then it could certainly stake a claim to global moral leadership - but moral leadership doesn't pay the bills, as attested to by, for example, the economically crippled condition of post-War Britain.
Scotland has over 150,000 jobs in the oil and gas industry and the one thing that the SNP cannot do without gaining huge unpopularity is decimate this industry
But if they don’t decimate it they will annoy many of their own supporters and green activists, lobbyists, NGOs and charities as well as getting lots of angry comments on Twitter.
And that is why she is trying to hide behind Boris
Yup, but I’m sure those fanatics will not accept ‘Boris made me do it’. I suspect she’s about to run out of luck on this one.
It is alleged the Plymouth shooter has his shotgun licence approved again last month, after it had been revoked in 2020
A gunman who killed his mother and four passersby, including a three-year-old girl, had his firearms licence revoked in December, but police reinstated it last month after he attended an anger management course.
Police will face an investigation over their dealings with Jake Davison, 22, who expressed sympathy for the “incel” movement and a keen interest in mass shootings. One resident from Plymouth, where the killing spree took place, said Davison’s family had sought treatment for his mental health issues.
Given that oilfield exploration is not a devoilved matter, you'd have been spluttering if she had tried to close it doen or to approve it directly.
She is 'spluttering' over an issue that she cannot hide behind Boris but as importantly oil and gas is integral to Scotland independence case
Not nearly so much now: far more on renewables. The world hass moved on. Which is the issue here - and it will not be anyh more comfortable for Mr Johnson and the Tories, perhaps less so.
Straight question
If Boris approves Cambo will Sturgeon join the Greens and Labour and condemn the decision
Or agree with it
I really don't know - we are in that sort of zone increasingly.
Edit: but the situation will change almost monthloy with COP26 coming up. So timing is also an issue.
It's a very rare example of the Scottish Government's default position (oppose the UK Government over practically everything) causing it grief with some of its own supporters. Are there any others?
Anyway, if Scotland were to become independent tomorrow and thence to forcibly shutter its oil extraction and petrochemicals industries, then it could certainly stake a claim to global moral leadership - but moral leadership doesn't pay the bills, as attested to by, for example, the economically crippled condition of post-War Britain.
Scotland has over 150,000 jobs in the oil and gas industry and the one thing that the SNP cannot do without gaining huge unpopularity is decimate this industry
But if they don’t decimate it they will annoy many of their own supporters and green activists, lobbyists, NGOs and charities as well as getting lots of angry comments on Twitter.
What Nicola Sturgeon has done, by calling fresh investment in oil into doubt, is to trade two short-term gains (buttering the Greens and blaming something else on the Tories) for one longer-term headache (opening another front against independence.)
The Scottish Government now not only needs to answer questions about the public sector deficit, the national debt, the currency and balancing relations between the rest of the UK and wider Europe. It will also have to address the suspicion that sovereignty will mean killing the oil and petrochemical industries stone dead to burnish the nation's green credentials, thus liquidating all the jobs and all the tax revenues (and crippling the entire city of Aberdeen into the bargain, in a grim echo of what Margaret Thatcher's policies on coal did to the mining communities.) A strategic misstep.
Even under the most stringent plans to move from fossil fuels they will be used for many decades so not approving Cambo is self-destructive posturing. An effective leader would approve then slaughter the opposition in debate. BJ might get an earful at home?
It is alleged the Plymouth shooter has his shotgun licence approved again last month, after it had been revoked in 2020
A gunman who killed his mother and four passersby, including a three-year-old girl, had his firearms licence revoked in December, but police reinstated it last month after he attended an anger management course.
Police will face an investigation over their dealings with Jake Davison, 22, who expressed sympathy for the “incel” movement and a keen interest in mass shootings. One resident from Plymouth, where the killing spree took place, said Davison’s family had sought treatment for his mental health issues.
This is just the kind of incident that could lead to a further tightening of firearms legislation, as happened post-Dunblane.
Oh so he did kill some randoms. The terrorism label is perhaps more appropriate in that case.
Reading the reports, his first victim was his mother; the remaining four all appear to have been strangers who were in the wrong place at the wrong time. The little girl and her dad were murdered because they were walking past his mother's house when he emerged after killing her.
It is alleged the Plymouth shooter has his shotgun licence approved again last month, after it had been revoked in 2020
A gunman who killed his mother and four passersby, including a three-year-old girl, had his firearms licence revoked in December, but police reinstated it last month after he attended an anger management course.
Police will face an investigation over their dealings with Jake Davison, 22, who expressed sympathy for the “incel” movement and a keen interest in mass shootings. One resident from Plymouth, where the killing spree took place, said Davison’s family had sought treatment for his mental health issues.
This is just the kind of incident that could lead to a further tightening of firearms legislation, as happened post-Dunblane.
Oh so he did kill some randoms. The terrorism label is perhaps more appropriate in that case.
Reading the reports, his first victim was his mother; the remaining four all appear to have been strangers who were in the wrong place at the wrong time. The little girl and her dad were murdered because they were walking past his mother's house when he emerged after killing her.
It is alleged the Plymouth shooter has his shotgun licence approved again last month, after it had been revoked in 2020
A gunman who killed his mother and four passersby, including a three-year-old girl, had his firearms licence revoked in December, but police reinstated it last month after he attended an anger management course.
Police will face an investigation over their dealings with Jake Davison, 22, who expressed sympathy for the “incel” movement and a keen interest in mass shootings. One resident from Plymouth, where the killing spree took place, said Davison’s family had sought treatment for his mental health issues.
Given that oilfield exploration is not a devoilved matter, you'd have been spluttering if she had tried to close it doen or to approve it directly.
She is 'spluttering' over an issue that she cannot hide behind Boris but as importantly oil and gas is integral to Scotland independence case
Not nearly so much now: far more on renewables. The world hass moved on. Which is the issue here - and it will not be anyh more comfortable for Mr Johnson and the Tories, perhaps less so.
Straight question
If Boris approves Cambo will Sturgeon join the Greens and Labour and condemn the decision
Or agree with it
I really don't know - we are in that sort of zone increasingly.
Edit: but the situation will change almost monthloy with COP26 coming up. So timing is also an issue.
It's a very rare example of the Scottish Government's default position (oppose the UK Government over practically everything) causing it grief with some of its own supporters. Are there any others?
Anyway, if Scotland were to become independent tomorrow and thence to forcibly shutter its oil extraction and petrochemicals industries, then it could certainly stake a claim to global moral leadership - but moral leadership doesn't pay the bills, as attested to by, for example, the economically crippled condition of post-War Britain.
Scotland has over 150,000 jobs in the oil and gas industry and the one thing that the SNP cannot do without gaining huge unpopularity is decimate this industry
But if they don’t decimate it they will annoy many of their own supporters and green activists, lobbyists, NGOs and charities as well as getting lots of angry comments on Twitter.
What Nicola Sturgeon has done, by calling fresh investment in oil into doubt, is to trade two short-term gains (buttering the Greens and blaming something else on the Tories) for one longer-term headache (opening another front against independence.)
The Scottish Government now not only needs to answer questions about the public sector deficit, the national debt, the currency and balancing relations between the rest of the UK and wider Europe. It will also have to address the suspicion that sovereignty will mean killing the oil and petrochemical industries stone dead to burnish the nation's green credentials, thus liquidating all the jobs and all the tax revenues (and crippling the entire city of Aberdeen into the bargain, in a grim echo of what Margaret Thatcher's policies on coal did to the mining communities.) A strategic misstep.
Unusual for someone who is usually so sure footed.
The independence supporters always gloss over the issue of the currency and debt. They have no proper answer to what they will do.
A Cardiff University pharmacy student died within hours of being told she had failed a crucial examination though it was later updated by the University as a pass
However, the 21 year old never saw the update and was found on rocks below the Britannia Bridge on the 8th July last year
So sad. In my first term at Law School in York I was told that I had failed a preliminary exam. I asked to see the tutor at my Mother’s insistence when I was on the verge of quitting (law school, not anything more drastic, although I didn’t feel far off) to find out there that someone had put my candidate number down rather than her own. Not only had she failed the exam but she couldn’t even get her number right. I got a transfer down to London at the end of the year.
Theres plenty of crap to spread around. Undoubtedly we and the USA have plenty. But theres no real getting away from the length of time and local leaders and/or people not wanting to build a functioning state if it remains do weak. Is that what powerful interests wanted, for fear of a powerful state.
There are plenty of countries like that. Paper leviathan I saw them called.
I get the sense the "Right" are claiming this is a failure of the "Left" and trying to make some political capital.
To be fair, we did install Karzai in Kabul in 2001but instead of concentrating on Afghan political, military and economic reconstruction, American and western interests moved to Iraq and Saddam Hussein.
Had overthrowing Saddam not been on the agenda, I suspect we'd have seen a deeper commitment to Afghanistan which might have left us in a very different position.
Not for the first time, the Americans left the job unfinished ad the consequences of that are coming back to haunt them now.
The point that going into Iraq distracted from the need to focus on Afghanistan, as well as compounding our error by generating yet more regional resistance, was well made on the radio this morning by, I believe, a Tory MP. If only they had been more prescient at the time.
This was Obama's argument back in 2008. It was probably correct but we did then refocus on Afganistan and caught Bin Laden. The question was why we hung around another decade.
Given that oilfield exploration is not a devoilved matter, you'd have been spluttering if she had tried to close it doen or to approve it directly.
She is 'spluttering' over an issue that she cannot hide behind Boris but as importantly oil and gas is integral to Scotland independence case
Not nearly so much now: far more on renewables. The world hass moved on. Which is the issue here - and it will not be anyh more comfortable for Mr Johnson and the Tories, perhaps less so.
Straight question
If Boris approves Cambo will Sturgeon join the Greens and Labour and condemn the decision
Or agree with it
I really don't know - we are in that sort of zone increasingly.
Edit: but the situation will change almost monthloy with COP26 coming up. So timing is also an issue.
It's a very rare example of the Scottish Government's default position (oppose the UK Government over practically everything) causing it grief with some of its own supporters. Are there any others?
Anyway, if Scotland were to become independent tomorrow and thence to forcibly shutter its oil extraction and petrochemicals industries, then it could certainly stake a claim to global moral leadership - but moral leadership doesn't pay the bills, as attested to by, for example, the economically crippled condition of post-War Britain.
Scotland has over 150,000 jobs in the oil and gas industry and the one thing that the SNP cannot do without gaining huge unpopularity is decimate this industry
But if they don’t decimate it they will annoy many of their own supporters and green activists, lobbyists, NGOs and charities as well as getting lots of angry comments on Twitter.
What Nicola Sturgeon has done, by calling fresh investment in oil into doubt, is to trade two short-term gains (buttering the Greens and blaming something else on the Tories) for one longer-term headache (opening another front against independence.)
The Scottish Government now not only needs to answer questions about the public sector deficit, the national debt, the currency and balancing relations between the rest of the UK and wider Europe. It will also have to address the suspicion that sovereignty will mean killing the oil and petrochemical industries stone dead to burnish the nation's green credentials, thus liquidating all the jobs and all the tax revenues (and crippling the entire city of Aberdeen into the bargain, in a grim echo of what Margaret Thatcher's policies on coal did to the mining communities.) A strategic misstep.
Unusual for someone who is usually so sure footed.
The independence supporters always gloss over the issue of the currency and debt. They have no proper answer to what they will do.
I'm not sure it matters greatly. I imagine an independent Scotland would keep the pound but most people will not care about unlikely hypothetical situations involving the Bank of England acting against Scotland's interests.
Re. the Plymouth shootings: * it seems the incel scene tanks some men up to have the kind of attitude that can explode in such murderous attacks - this is not the first time; * it is clear to those who don't know the scene that much of what is being written about it today by "experts" is gobbledegook, which is presumably even clearer to those who do know it; * what the hell is wrong with men who choose to gather with other incel men and moan about how bad it is to be an incel rather than going out and meeting women?
Given that oilfield exploration is not a devoilved matter, you'd have been spluttering if she had tried to close it doen or to approve it directly.
She is 'spluttering' over an issue that she cannot hide behind Boris but as importantly oil and gas is integral to Scotland independence case
Not nearly so much now: far more on renewables. The world hass moved on. Which is the issue here - and it will not be anyh more comfortable for Mr Johnson and the Tories, perhaps less so.
Straight question
If Boris approves Cambo will Sturgeon join the Greens and Labour and condemn the decision
Or agree with it
I really don't know - we are in that sort of zone increasingly.
Edit: but the situation will change almost monthloy with COP26 coming up. So timing is also an issue.
It's a very rare example of the Scottish Government's default position (oppose the UK Government over practically everything) causing it grief with some of its own supporters. Are there any others?
Anyway, if Scotland were to become independent tomorrow and thence to forcibly shutter its oil extraction and petrochemicals industries, then it could certainly stake a claim to global moral leadership - but moral leadership doesn't pay the bills, as attested to by, for example, the economically crippled condition of post-War Britain.
Scotland has over 150,000 jobs in the oil and gas industry and the one thing that the SNP cannot do without gaining huge unpopularity is decimate this industry
But if they don’t decimate it they will annoy many of their own supporters and green activists, lobbyists, NGOs and charities as well as getting lots of angry comments on Twitter.
What Nicola Sturgeon has done, by calling fresh investment in oil into doubt, is to trade two short-term gains (buttering the Greens and blaming something else on the Tories) for one longer-term headache (opening another front against independence.)
The Scottish Government now not only needs to answer questions about the public sector deficit, the national debt, the currency and balancing relations between the rest of the UK and wider Europe. It will also have to address the suspicion that sovereignty will mean killing the oil and petrochemical industries stone dead to burnish the nation's green credentials, thus liquidating all the jobs and all the tax revenues (and crippling the entire city of Aberdeen into the bargain, in a grim echo of what Margaret Thatcher's policies on coal did to the mining communities.) A strategic misstep.
Unusual for someone who is usually so sure footed.
The independence supporters always gloss over the issue of the currency and debt. They have no proper answer to what they will do.
I'm not sure it matters greatly. I imagine an independent Scotland would keep the pound but most people will not care about unlikely hypothetical situations involving the Bank of England acting against Scotland's interests.
I am pretty sure they will keep the pound although quite how that makes them and independent nation would remain to be seen
Theres plenty of crap to spread around. Undoubtedly we and the USA have plenty. But theres no real getting away from the length of time and local leaders and/or people not wanting to build a functioning state if it remains do weak. Is that what powerful interests wanted, for fear of a powerful state.
There are plenty of countries like that. Paper leviathan I saw them called.
I get the sense the "Right" are claiming this is a failure of the "Left" and trying to make some political capital.
To be fair, we did install Karzai in Kabul in 2001but instead of concentrating on Afghan political, military and economic reconstruction, American and western interests moved to Iraq and Saddam Hussein.
Had overthrowing Saddam not been on the agenda, I suspect we'd have seen a deeper commitment to Afghanistan which might have left us in a very different position.
Not for the first time, the Americans left the job unfinished ad the consequences of that are coming back to haunt them now.
The point that going into Iraq distracted from the need to focus on Afghanistan, as well as compounding our error by generating yet more regional resistance, was well made on the radio this morning by, I believe, a Tory MP. If only they had been more prescient at the time.
This was Obama's argument back in 2008. It was probably correct but we did then refocus on Afganistan and caught Bin Laden. The question was why we hung around another decade.
The choices were not going in at all, which probably would have resulted in the lowest death toll, despite the misery the country would have remained trapped within, or going in, sorting out OBL and then getting out leaving a Libyan-type mess behind (Cammo did Libya no favours yet the mess we caused there gets little news coverage nowadays), or, the worst choice, sticking around for twenty years, with a big death toll of Afghans and a lesser but still distressing toll of death and disability of our own troops, and then leaving the place to descend back to the status quo ante.
What we and the Americans fail to grasp is that you can’t go in and kill all the bad guys; the mere act of occupation and perceived injustice generates new bad guys to replace every one that gets taken out. A lesson it took us a long time to learn even within our own nation.
Re. the Plymouth shootings: * it seems the incel scene tanks some men up to have the kind of attitude that can explode in such murderous attacks - this is not the first time; * it is clear to those who don't know the scene that much of what is being written about it today by "experts" is gobbledegook, which is presumably even clearer to those who do know it; * what the hell is wrong with men who choose to gather with other incel men and moan about how bad it is to be an incel rather than going out and meeting women?
You could write a book about the last point. In fact, I'm assuming that a number of people probably already have.
Some (straight) men who can't get laid insist they have a right to sex and turn their anger towards innocent women. A woman who's not getting any would probably just buy some nice battery-powered toys to play with. Go figure.
Re. the Plymouth shootings: * it seems the incel scene tanks some men up to have the kind of attitude that can explode in such murderous attacks - this is not the first time; * it is clear to those who don't know the scene that much of what is being written about it today by "experts" is gobbledegook, which is presumably even clearer to those who do know it; * what the hell is wrong with men who choose to gather with other incel men and moan about how bad it is to be an incel rather than going out and meeting women?
Crippling fear of rejection, self hatred, seeking external cause to rage against.
"Boris Johnson has said the UK can be 'extremely proud' of its role in Afghanistan, despite the situation in the country having 'deteriorated'.
The UK will evacuate the 'vast bulk' of its embassy staff in the coming days as the Taliban continues to advance.
The prime minister said there was 'no military solution' after an emergency Cobra meeting on Friday afternoon."
What a pity the unavailability of a military solution, given of course all the non-military realities, wasn't recognised in 2001. How difficult was it to tell George Bush the Younger he could do one? As for the "vast bulk", so the plan is to keep an embassy in Kabul once the Taliban have retaken the capital? Of course it isn't.
What is the betting that the Brits will have to ask for Russian support in getting to the airport and then flying out safely?
Talking of Russians, the Soviet withdrawal from Afghanistan was planned and orderly and took place over several months. They didn't leave it until a week or so before they withdrew to call an emergency meeting and announce there was "no military solution". Really Johnson should fall over this, as Blair should have fallen over Iraq. Has he even mentioned the British service personnel who lost their lives in this utterly unnecessary and futile war? Or is it just that the kingdom should be proud of failing? I get it there won't be an inquiry just yet into why the hell Britain ever invaded in the first place. If there were an opposition, that's what it would be demanding.
The point that going into Iraq distracted from the need to focus on Afghanistan, as well as compounding our error by generating yet more regional resistance, was well made on the radio this morning by, I believe, a Tory MP. If only they had been more prescient at the time.
The political irony is you now have Trump and his ilk, who call themselves Republicans, having a go at Biden and blaming him for the current crisis.
The truth is the mistakes were made in the George W Bush presidency when, as I recall, the Republicans controlled the White House, Senate and Congress from 2000-06.
Bush's "reasons" for going after Saddam seemed more to do with settling a score for his father than any geopolitical reasoning. Saddam was neutered by the Gulf War and little more than an irritation.
‘The World Health Organization has announced it is setting up a new group to trace Covid’s origins, seeking to end what it called “political point scoring” that had hampered investigations. It comes as Danish scientist Peter Ben Embarek, who led the original international mission to Wuhan, unexpectedly suggested in a documentary released yesterday that Covid’s patient zero could be a lab employee infected while collecting bat coronavirus samples.’
Is NigelB literally the last PB-er pimping out the ‘it came from a bat in a soup in the market’ bollocks?
Is the whole incel thing a subsection of the wider societial issue of the likes of social media boostering all these so called influencers appearing to have the perfect look, the perfect life, endless money, all the latest gear?
Back in the day you compared yourself with your mates and perhaps the old person you knew that perhaps had a flash car etc.
Now the lives of the rich is all out there to see and then you have all these fake influencer who make it apper they also have this perfect life.
An example of this is when I was building my home gym I did a load of research of which kit to buy. My social media even to this day is packed with steroid jacked men as clearly big tech super brain algorithms has equated me wanting gym kit with wanting to see endless pictures of roided up men boasting about their flash lives with hot women on their arms.
I imagine for many they would feel very inferior seeing this.
Given that oilfield exploration is not a devoilved matter, you'd have been spluttering if she had tried to close it doen or to approve it directly.
She is 'spluttering' over an issue that she cannot hide behind Boris but as importantly oil and gas is integral to Scotland independence case
Not nearly so much now: far more on renewables. The world hass moved on. Which is the issue here - and it will not be anyh more comfortable for Mr Johnson and the Tories, perhaps less so.
Straight question
If Boris approves Cambo will Sturgeon join the Greens and Labour and condemn the decision
Or agree with it
I really don't know - we are in that sort of zone increasingly.
Edit: but the situation will change almost monthloy with COP26 coming up. So timing is also an issue.
It's a very rare example of the Scottish Government's default position (oppose the UK Government over practically everything) causing it grief with some of its own supporters. Are there any others?
Anyway, if Scotland were to become independent tomorrow and thence to forcibly shutter its oil extraction and petrochemicals industries, then it could certainly stake a claim to global moral leadership - but moral leadership doesn't pay the bills, as attested to by, for example, the economically crippled condition of post-War Britain.
Scotland has over 150,000 jobs in the oil and gas industry and the one thing that the SNP cannot do without gaining huge unpopularity is decimate this industry
But if they don’t decimate it they will annoy many of their own supporters and green activists, lobbyists, NGOs and charities as well as getting lots of angry comments on Twitter.
What Nicola Sturgeon has done, by calling fresh investment in oil into doubt, is to trade two short-term gains (buttering the Greens and blaming something else on the Tories) for one longer-term headache (opening another front against independence.)
The Scottish Government now not only needs to answer questions about the public sector deficit, the national debt, the currency and balancing relations between the rest of the UK and wider Europe. It will also have to address the suspicion that sovereignty will mean killing the oil and petrochemical industries stone dead to burnish the nation's green credentials, thus liquidating all the jobs and all the tax revenues (and crippling the entire city of Aberdeen into the bargain, in a grim echo of what Margaret Thatcher's policies on coal did to the mining communities.) A strategic misstep.
Unusual for someone who is usually so sure footed.
The independence supporters always gloss over the issue of the currency and debt. They have no proper answer to what they will do.
I'm not sure it matters greatly. I imagine an independent Scotland would keep the pound but most people will not care about unlikely hypothetical situations involving the Bank of England acting against Scotland's interests.
The threat of an independent Scotland being stuck with an inappropriate interest rate should it choose to retain sterling is, in anything other than the very long term, probably overdone: a very low interest rate environment throughout the West looks like it's here to stay. What's potentially more interesting is the reaction of the bond markets.
By opting for sterlingisation, Scotland would place itself in the position of being a newly independent state with no established credit history, borrowing in a foreign currency which it cannot itself issue, to finance a very substantial deficit. This is not optimal.
The obvious alternative is to do what the Greens have suggested and float a new currency, administered and issued by a Scottish central bank - but that, of course, brings its own challenges.
Re. the Plymouth shootings: * it seems the incel scene tanks some men up to have the kind of attitude that can explode in such murderous attacks - this is not the first time; * it is clear to those who don't know the scene that much of what is being written about it today by "experts" is gobbledegook, which is presumably even clearer to those who do know it; * what the hell is wrong with men who choose to gather with other incel men and moan about how bad it is to be an incel rather than going out and meeting women?
You could write a book about the last point. In fact, I'm assuming that a number of people probably already have.
Some (straight) men who can't get laid insist they have a right to sex and turn their anger towards innocent women. A woman who's not getting any would probably just buy some nice battery-powered toys to play with. Go figure.
“Maybe the business owner might go bankrupt twice … but guess what – he had a wife and kids to support him. Does incel or virgin get that? No. Imagine failing at everything in life and having absolutely no support whatsoever.”
Is the whole incel thing a subsection of the wider societial issue of the likes of social media boostering all these so called influencers appearing to have the perfect look, the perfect life, endless money, all the latest gear?
Back in the day you compared yourself with your mates and perhaps the old person you knew that perhaps had a flash car etc.
Now the lives of the rich is all out there to see and then you have all these fake influencer who make it apper they also have this perfect life.
An example of this is when I was building my home gym I did a load of research of which kit to buy. My social media even to this day is packed with steroid jacked men as clearly big tech super brain algorithms has equated me wanting gym kit with wanting to see endless pictures of roided up men.
It's a combination of two effects:
1) Men will marry up or down in economic status, but women insist on marrying equal or up.
2) Women now have the same access to economic opportunity as men, at least up to the age of 30 by which time most couples pair up.
The result is a surplus of unattached men at the low end of economic status and a surplus of women at the high end.
‘The World Health Organization has announced it is setting up a new group to trace Covid’s origins, seeking to end what it called “political point scoring” that had hampered investigations. It comes as Danish scientist Peter Ben Embarek, who led the original international mission to Wuhan, unexpectedly suggested in a documentary released yesterday that Covid’s patient zero could be a lab employee infected while collecting bat coronavirus samples.’
Is NigelB literally the last PB-er pimping out the ‘it came from a bat in a soup in the market’ bollocks?
An employee getting bitten while collecting samples in a cave is not the lab-leak theory. Admittedly, it has been suggested that Chinese obstruction prevented full exploration of the lab-leak hypothesis, but this is not it.
Otoh there appears to be loads of denizens of an entirely sex-free Middle Earth out there.
illiberal threat. @McDivergence the "Book Will Turn Your Kids Trans" crowd really need to start explaining why I am not, in fact, a very hungry caterpillar.
The point that going into Iraq distracted from the need to focus on Afghanistan, as well as compounding our error by generating yet more regional resistance, was well made on the radio this morning by, I believe, a Tory MP. If only they had been more prescient at the time.
The political irony is you now have Trump and his ilk, who call themselves Republicans, having a go at Biden and blaming him for the current crisis.
The truth is the mistakes were made in the George W Bush presidency when, as I recall, the Republicans controlled the White House, Senate and Congress from 2000-06.
Bush's "reasons" for going after Saddam seemed more to do with settling a score for his father than any geopolitical reasoning. Saddam was neutered by the Gulf War and little more than an irritation.
And Cheney and Rumsfeld's almost colonial desire to capture Iraq's oil; and the whole neocon expectation democracy would flourish if they dropped enough bombs.
‘The World Health Organization has announced it is setting up a new group to trace Covid’s origins, seeking to end what it called “political point scoring” that had hampered investigations. It comes as Danish scientist Peter Ben Embarek, who led the original international mission to Wuhan, unexpectedly suggested in a documentary released yesterday that Covid’s patient zero could be a lab employee infected while collecting bat coronavirus samples.’
Is NigelB literally the last PB-er pimping out the ‘it came from a bat in a soup in the market’ bollocks?
Is the whole incel thing a subsection of the wider societial issue of the likes of social media boostering all these so called influencers appearing to have the perfect look, the perfect life, endless money, all the latest gear?
Back in the day you compared yourself with your mates and perhaps the old person you knew that perhaps had a flash car etc.
Now the lives of the rich is all out there to see and then you have all these fake influencer who make it apper they also have this perfect life.
An example of this is when I was building my home gym I did a load of research of which kit to buy. My social media even to this day is packed with steroid jacked men as clearly big tech super brain algorithms has equated me wanting gym kit with wanting to see endless pictures of roided up men.
It's a combination of two effects:
1) Men will marry up or down in economic status, but women insist on marrying equal or up.
2) Women now have the same access to economic opportunity as men, at least up to the age of 30 by which time most couples pair up.
The result is a surplus of unattached men at the low end of economic status and a surplus of women at the high end.
Will be interesting to see if that shows up in the 2021 census.
Is the whole incel thing a subsection of the wider societial issue of the likes of social media boostering all these so called influencers appearing to have the perfect look, the perfect life, endless money, all the latest gear?
Back in the day you compared yourself with your mates and perhaps the old person you knew that perhaps had a flash car etc.
Now the lives of the rich is all out there to see and then you have all these fake influencer who make it apper they also have this perfect life.
An example of this is when I was building my home gym I did a load of research of which kit to buy. My social media even to this day is packed with steroid jacked men as clearly big tech super brain algorithms has equated me wanting gym kit with wanting to see endless pictures of roided up men.
It's a combination of two effects:
1) Men will marry up or down in economic status, but women insist on marrying equal or up.
2) Women now have the same access to economic opportunity as men, at least up to the age of 30 by which time most couples pair up.
The result is a surplus of unattached men at the low end of economic status and a surplus of women at the high end.
The second point i think is very pertinent. Mrs U has some single female friends, who are intelligent and self sufficient, they regularly complain about going on dates via apps and the men aren't successful or ambitious enough for them.
It isn't solely about the money, they aren't looking for a multi-millionaire so they can pack it all in and live a life of luxury, but they want somebody who is driven like them and can enjoy nicer things in life....but they absolutely don't want to be funding the man to do this, it has to be equal. They aren't interested in a nice guy who works in the supermarket and earns minimum wage.
Re. the Plymouth shootings: * it seems the incel scene tanks some men up to have the kind of attitude that can explode in such murderous attacks - this is not the first time; * it is clear to those who don't know the scene that much of what is being written about it today by "experts" is gobbledegook, which is presumably even clearer to those who do know it; * what the hell is wrong with men who choose to gather with other incel men and moan about how bad it is to be an incel rather than going out and meeting women?
Crippling fear of rejection, self hatred, seeking external cause to rage against.
Theres plenty of crap to spread around. Undoubtedly we and the USA have plenty. But theres no real getting away from the length of time and local leaders and/or people not wanting to build a functioning state if it remains do weak. Is that what powerful interests wanted, for fear of a powerful state.
There are plenty of countries like that. Paper leviathan I saw them called.
I get the sense the "Right" are claiming this is a failure of the "Left" and trying to make some political capital.
To be fair, we did install Karzai in Kabul in 2001but instead of concentrating on Afghan political, military and economic reconstruction, American and western interests moved to Iraq and Saddam Hussein.
Had overthrowing Saddam not been on the agenda, I suspect we'd have seen a deeper commitment to Afghanistan which might have left us in a very different position.
Not for the first time, the Americans left the job unfinished ad the consequences of that are coming back to haunt them now.
The point that going into Iraq distracted from the need to focus on Afghanistan, as well as compounding our error by generating yet more regional resistance, was well made on the radio this morning by, I believe, a Tory MP. If only they had been more prescient at the time.
This was Obama's argument back in 2008. It was probably correct but we did then refocus on Afganistan and caught Bin Laden. The question was why we hung around another decade.
The choices were not going in at all, which probably would have resulted in the lowest death toll, despite the misery the country would have remained trapped within, or going in, sorting out OBL and then getting out leaving a Libyan-type mess behind (Cammo did Libya no favours yet the mess we caused there gets little news coverage nowadays), or, the worst choice, sticking around for twenty years, with a big death toll of Afghans and a lesser but still distressing toll of death and disability of our own troops, and then leaving the place to descend back to the status quo ante.
What we and the Americans fail to grasp is that you can’t go in and kill all the bad guys; the mere act of occupation and perceived injustice generates new bad guys to replace every one that gets taken out. A lesson it took us a long time to learn even within our own nation.
I agree with the three options but would order them differently. The third is clearly the worst as you say, but you still need a deterrent effect. So the minimum intervention needed to clear put the problem group. That way the next iteration of them will be wary of being killed or out of power for a decade. They will focus on domestic power and not need to provoke problems outside their borders.
I agree with you that it can cause some sense of perceived injustice, but if you do it based on clear grounds and not manufactured ones, most locals will still think "it was their fault for attacking the West in the first place". And any residual blowback mentality is probably outweighed by the positive deterrent effect.
‘The World Health Organization has announced it is setting up a new group to trace Covid’s origins, seeking to end what it called “political point scoring” that had hampered investigations. It comes as Danish scientist Peter Ben Embarek, who led the original international mission to Wuhan, unexpectedly suggested in a documentary released yesterday that Covid’s patient zero could be a lab employee infected while collecting bat coronavirus samples.’
Is NigelB literally the last PB-er pimping out the ‘it came from a bat in a soup in the market’ bollocks?
An employee getting bitten while collecting samples in a cave is not the lab-leak theory. Admittedly, it has been suggested that Chinese obstruction prevented full exploration of the lab-leak hypothesis, but this is not it.
Yes it fucking is
A lab worker researching novel bat Coronaviruses for a specialized lab set up to research novel bat coronaviruses who then brings it back to the city where the same lab does the research - that’s a lab leak
It leaked because of science and labs. It was it not some ‘natural’ leap from a fucking pangolin to a peasant
This is goal post shifting on the most heroic level
Is the whole incel thing a subsection of the wider societial issue of the likes of social media boostering all these so called influencers appearing to have the perfect look, the perfect life, endless money, all the latest gear?
Back in the day you compared yourself with your mates and perhaps the old person you knew that perhaps had a flash car etc.
Now the lives of the rich is all out there to see and then you have all these fake influencer who make it apper they also have this perfect life.
An example of this is when I was building my home gym I did a load of research of which kit to buy. My social media even to this day is packed with steroid jacked men as clearly big tech super brain algorithms has equated me wanting gym kit with wanting to see endless pictures of roided up men.
It's a combination of two effects:
1) Men will marry up or down in economic status, but women insist on marrying equal or up.
2) Women now have the same access to economic opportunity as men, at least up to the age of 30 by which time most couples pair up.
The result is a surplus of unattached men at the low end of economic status and a surplus of women at the high end.
Re. the Plymouth shootings: * it seems the incel scene tanks some men up to have the kind of attitude that can explode in such murderous attacks - this is not the first time; * it is clear to those who don't know the scene that much of what is being written about it today by "experts" is gobbledegook, which is presumably even clearer to those who do know it; * what the hell is wrong with men who choose to gather with other incel men and moan about how bad it is to be an incel rather than going out and meeting women?
Crippling fear of rejection, self hatred, seeking external cause to rage against.
You’ve just described England’s mental breakdown.
Prominent expert on all things English from Sweden gives us the benefit of his wisdom. We are blessed.
Seriously, find yourself a hobby, some friends, a job, anything. Get a pet maybe. Your unrelenting obsession with denigrating anything and anyone English is deeply unhealthy. Exercise might be good.
Is the whole incel thing a subsection of the wider societial issue of the likes of social media boostering all these so called influencers appearing to have the perfect look, the perfect life, endless money, all the latest gear?
Back in the day you compared yourself with your mates and perhaps the old person you knew that perhaps had a flash car etc.
Now the lives of the rich is all out there to see and then you have all these fake influencer who make it apper they also have this perfect life.
An example of this is when I was building my home gym I did a load of research of which kit to buy. My social media even to this day is packed with steroid jacked men as clearly big tech super brain algorithms has equated me wanting gym kit with wanting to see endless pictures of roided up men.
It's a combination of two effects:
1) Men will marry up or down in economic status, but women insist on marrying equal or up.
2) Women now have the same access to economic opportunity as men, at least up to the age of 30 by which time most couples pair up.
The result is a surplus of unattached men at the low end of economic status and a surplus of women at the high end.
Will be interesting to see if that shows up in the 2021 census.
Does the census capture relationship status? Marital status is not much use given the high proportion of couples who decided not get married, at least initially.
‘The World Health Organization has announced it is setting up a new group to trace Covid’s origins, seeking to end what it called “political point scoring” that had hampered investigations. It comes as Danish scientist Peter Ben Embarek, who led the original international mission to Wuhan, unexpectedly suggested in a documentary released yesterday that Covid’s patient zero could be a lab employee infected while collecting bat coronavirus samples.’
Is NigelB literally the last PB-er pimping out the ‘it came from a bat in a soup in the market’ bollocks?
An employee getting bitten while collecting samples in a cave is not the lab-leak theory. Admittedly, it has been suggested that Chinese obstruction prevented full exploration of the lab-leak hypothesis, but this is not it.
Yes it fucking is
A lab worker researching novel bat Coronaviruses for a specialized lab set up to research novel bat coronaviruses who then brings it back to the city where the same lab does the research - that’s a lab leak
It leaked because of science and labs. It was it not some ‘natural’ leap from a fucking pangolin to a peasant
This is goal post shifting on the most heroic level
A lab leak would be dropping a test tube in the lab, releasing a virus that had been stored at the lab. This is not that.
Is the whole incel thing a subsection of the wider societial issue of the likes of social media boostering all these so called influencers appearing to have the perfect look, the perfect life, endless money, all the latest gear?
Back in the day you compared yourself with your mates and perhaps the old person you knew that perhaps had a flash car etc.
Now the lives of the rich is all out there to see and then you have all these fake influencer who make it apper they also have this perfect life.
An example of this is when I was building my home gym I did a load of research of which kit to buy. My social media even to this day is packed with steroid jacked men as clearly big tech super brain algorithms has equated me wanting gym kit with wanting to see endless pictures of roided up men.
It's a combination of two effects:
1) Men will marry up or down in economic status, but women insist on marrying equal or up.
2) Women now have the same access to economic opportunity as men, at least up to the age of 30 by which time most couples pair up.
The result is a surplus of unattached men at the low end of economic status and a surplus of women at the high end.
Will be interesting to see if that shows up in the 2021 census.
Does the census capture relationship status? Marital status is not much use given the high proportion of couples who decided not get married, at least initially.
Is the whole incel thing a subsection of the wider societial issue of the likes of social media boostering all these so called influencers appearing to have the perfect look, the perfect life, endless money, all the latest gear?
Back in the day you compared yourself with your mates and perhaps the old person you knew that perhaps had a flash car etc.
Now the lives of the rich is all out there to see and then you have all these fake influencer who make it apper they also have this perfect life.
An example of this is when I was building my home gym I did a load of research of which kit to buy. My social media even to this day is packed with steroid jacked men as clearly big tech super brain algorithms has equated me wanting gym kit with wanting to see endless pictures of roided up men.
It's a combination of two effects:
1) Men will marry up or down in economic status, but women insist on marrying equal or up.
2) Women now have the same access to economic opportunity as men, at least up to the age of 30 by which time most couples pair up.
The result is a surplus of unattached men at the low end of economic status and a surplus of women at the high end.
I don't know whether that's true in general, but I know several couples in which the woman is the main earner. Indeed, pre-children my wife earned more than me (although not by a huge amount, so we were able to go with her desire for me to be the main earner post children without it being a big deal financially)
‘The World Health Organization has announced it is setting up a new group to trace Covid’s origins, seeking to end what it called “political point scoring” that had hampered investigations. It comes as Danish scientist Peter Ben Embarek, who led the original international mission to Wuhan, unexpectedly suggested in a documentary released yesterday that Covid’s patient zero could be a lab employee infected while collecting bat coronavirus samples.’
Is NigelB literally the last PB-er pimping out the ‘it came from a bat in a soup in the market’ bollocks?
An employee getting bitten while collecting samples in a cave is not the lab-leak theory. Admittedly, it has been suggested that Chinese obstruction prevented full exploration of the lab-leak hypothesis, but this is not it.
Yes it fucking is
A lab worker researching novel bat Coronaviruses for a specialized lab set up to research novel bat coronaviruses who then brings it back to the city where the same lab does the research - that’s a lab leak
It leaked because of science and labs. It was it not some ‘natural’ leap from a fucking pangolin to a peasant
This is goal post shifting on the most heroic level
A lab leak would be dropping a test tube in the lab, releasing a virus that had been stored at the lab. This is not that.
Is the whole incel thing a subsection of the wider societial issue of the likes of social media boostering all these so called influencers appearing to have the perfect look, the perfect life, endless money, all the latest gear?
Back in the day you compared yourself with your mates and perhaps the old person you knew that perhaps had a flash car etc.
Now the lives of the rich is all out there to see and then you have all these fake influencer who make it apper they also have this perfect life.
An example of this is when I was building my home gym I did a load of research of which kit to buy. My social media even to this day is packed with steroid jacked men as clearly big tech super brain algorithms has equated me wanting gym kit with wanting to see endless pictures of roided up men.
It's a combination of two effects:
1) Men will marry up or down in economic status, but women insist on marrying equal or up.
2) Women now have the same access to economic opportunity as men, at least up to the age of 30 by which time most couples pair up.
The result is a surplus of unattached men at the low end of economic status and a surplus of women at the high end.
The second point i think is very pertinent. Mrs U has some single female friends, who are intelligent and self sufficient, they regularly complain about going on dates via apps and the men aren't successful or ambitious enough for them.
It isn't solely about the money, they aren't looking for a multi-millionaire so they can pack it all in and live a life of luxury, but they want somebody who is driven like them and can enjoy nicer things in life....but they absolutely don't want to be funding the man to do this, it has to be equal. They aren't interested in a nice guy who works in the supermarket and earns minimum wage.
Where as we know men will do this.
To be fair on women, there are a lot of unlovable men, and an unlovable man without even the compensation of money or other charm seems a lot worse than being single.
Is the whole incel thing a subsection of the wider societial issue of the likes of social media boostering all these so called influencers appearing to have the perfect look, the perfect life, endless money, all the latest gear?
Back in the day you compared yourself with your mates and perhaps the old person you knew that perhaps had a flash car etc.
Now the lives of the rich is all out there to see and then you have all these fake influencer who make it apper they also have this perfect life.
An example of this is when I was building my home gym I did a load of research of which kit to buy. My social media even to this day is packed with steroid jacked men as clearly big tech super brain algorithms has equated me wanting gym kit with wanting to see endless pictures of roided up men.
It's a combination of two effects:
1) Men will marry up or down in economic status, but women insist on marrying equal or up.
2) Women now have the same access to economic opportunity as men, at least up to the age of 30 by which time most couples pair up.
The result is a surplus of unattached men at the low end of economic status and a surplus of women at the high end.
I don't know whether that's true in general, but I know several couples in which the woman is the main earner. Indeed, pre-children my wife earned more than me (although not by a huge amount, so we were able to go with her desire for me to be the main earner post children without it being a big deal financially)
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To be fair, I'm not a good example as we probably qualified as economic equals, but my friends include a female lawyer married to an electrician and a goldman employee married to a teacher
Is the whole incel thing a subsection of the wider societial issue of the likes of social media boostering all these so called influencers appearing to have the perfect look, the perfect life, endless money, all the latest gear?
Back in the day you compared yourself with your mates and perhaps the old person you knew that perhaps had a flash car etc.
Now the lives of the rich is all out there to see and then you have all these fake influencer who make it apper they also have this perfect life.
An example of this is when I was building my home gym I did a load of research of which kit to buy. My social media even to this day is packed with steroid jacked men as clearly big tech super brain algorithms has equated me wanting gym kit with wanting to see endless pictures of roided up men.
It's a combination of two effects:
1) Men will marry up or down in economic status, but women insist on marrying equal or up.
2) Women now have the same access to economic opportunity as men, at least up to the age of 30 by which time most couples pair up.
The result is a surplus of unattached men at the low end of economic status and a surplus of women at the high end.
The second point i think is very pertinent. Mrs U has some single female friends, who are intelligent and self sufficient, they regularly complain about going on dates via apps and the men aren't successful or ambitious enough for them.
It isn't solely about the money, they aren't looking for a multi-millionaire so they can pack it all in and live a life of luxury, but they want somebody who is driven like them and can enjoy nicer things in life....but they absolutely don't want to be funding the man to do this, it has to be equal. They aren't interested in a nice guy who works in the supermarket and earns minimum wage.
Where as we know men will do this.
To be fair on women, there are a lot of unlovable men, and an unlovable man without even the compensation of money or other charm seems a lot worse than being single.
Who in their right mind would date these incels?
I wasn't blaming them. I think my point was back in the day women didn't earn their own money (or was very limited), so there was pressure on finding yourself a man if you wanted to have a life.
Now many more women can choose, they are financially independent and successfully, thus a partner has to bring something to the party which significantly inproves their life. They don't need the hassle of some dickhead or weird man.
Re. the Plymouth shootings: * it seems the incel scene tanks some men up to have the kind of attitude that can explode in such murderous attacks - this is not the first time; * it is clear to those who don't know the scene that much of what is being written about it today by "experts" is gobbledegook, which is presumably even clearer to those who do know it; * what the hell is wrong with men who choose to gather with other incel men and moan about how bad it is to be an incel rather than going out and meeting women?
Crippling fear of rejection, self hatred, seeking external cause to rage against.
You’ve just described England’s mental breakdown.
Prominent expert on all things English from Sweden gives us the benefit of his wisdom. We are blessed.
Seriously, find yourself a hobby, some friends, a job, anything. Get a pet maybe. Your unrelenting obsession with denigrating anything and anyone English is deeply unhealthy. Exercise might be good.
Stuart Dickson’s visceral hatred of, and inferiority complex to, the English, reminds me a bit of Hitler’s anti-semitism. It is so bizarrely unhinged.
Many biographers have tried to explain WHY Hitler became so maniacally anti-Jewish. Was he dumped by a Jewish girlfriend? Did he feel outdone by the Jewish kids in Linz who got into art school where he failed? No theory really comprehends it, no historical incident explains it. The floridity is so outrageous
The odd thing is that, if you can ever get Dickson OFF the subject of Scot Nattery and English evilness, he can be quite civil, even engaging and diverting
I wonder if Hitler was the same. He’d meet up with his mates for a beer and they’d all agree beforehand ‘look, just don’t mention the Jews’!
Is the whole incel thing a subsection of the wider societial issue of the likes of social media boostering all these so called influencers appearing to have the perfect look, the perfect life, endless money, all the latest gear?
Back in the day you compared yourself with your mates and perhaps the old person you knew that perhaps had a flash car etc.
Now the lives of the rich is all out there to see and then you have all these fake influencer who make it apper they also have this perfect life.
An example of this is when I was building my home gym I did a load of research of which kit to buy. My social media even to this day is packed with steroid jacked men as clearly big tech super brain algorithms has equated me wanting gym kit with wanting to see endless pictures of roided up men.
It's a combination of two effects:
1) Men will marry up or down in economic status, but women insist on marrying equal or up.
2) Women now have the same access to economic opportunity as men, at least up to the age of 30 by which time most couples pair up.
The result is a surplus of unattached men at the low end of economic status and a surplus of women at the high end.
Will be interesting to see if that shows up in the 2021 census.
Does the census capture relationship status? Marital status is not much use given the high proportion of couples who decided not get married, at least initially.
It certainly did in 2011.
Ok thanks.
On a related topic: I have been involved in some interesting conversations with clients regarding whether or not they are in a relationship, since if they are they have to claim UC as a couple (which is considerably less beneficial). The definition of 'a couple' is a bit vague, to say the least. UC encourages people not to form relationships.
Is the whole incel thing a subsection of the wider societial issue of the likes of social media boostering all these so called influencers appearing to have the perfect look, the perfect life, endless money, all the latest gear?
Back in the day you compared yourself with your mates and perhaps the old person you knew that perhaps had a flash car etc.
Now the lives of the rich is all out there to see and then you have all these fake influencer who make it apper they also have this perfect life.
An example of this is when I was building my home gym I did a load of research of which kit to buy. My social media even to this day is packed with steroid jacked men as clearly big tech super brain algorithms has equated me wanting gym kit with wanting to see endless pictures of roided up men.
It's a combination of two effects:
1) Men will marry up or down in economic status, but women insist on marrying equal or up.
2) Women now have the same access to economic opportunity as men, at least up to the age of 30 by which time most couples pair up.
The result is a surplus of unattached men at the low end of economic status and a surplus of women at the high end.
The second point i think is very pertinent. Mrs U has some single female friends, who are intelligent and self sufficient, they regularly complain about going on dates via apps and the men aren't successful or ambitious enough for them.
It isn't solely about the money, they aren't looking for a multi-millionaire so they can pack it all in and live a life of luxury, but they want somebody who is driven like them and can enjoy nicer things in life....but they absolutely don't want to be funding the man to do this, it has to be equal. They aren't interested in a nice guy who works in the supermarket and earns minimum wage.
Where as we know men will do this.
To be fair on women, there are a lot of unlovable men, and an unlovable man without even the compensation of money or other charm seems a lot worse than being single.
Who in their right mind would date these incels?
And yet plenty of women seem to end up in abusive relationships.
Is the whole incel thing a subsection of the wider societial issue of the likes of social media boostering all these so called influencers appearing to have the perfect look, the perfect life, endless money, all the latest gear?
Back in the day you compared yourself with your mates and perhaps the old person you knew that perhaps had a flash car etc.
Now the lives of the rich is all out there to see and then you have all these fake influencer who make it apper they also have this perfect life.
An example of this is when I was building my home gym I did a load of research of which kit to buy. My social media even to this day is packed with steroid jacked men as clearly big tech super brain algorithms has equated me wanting gym kit with wanting to see endless pictures of roided up men.
It's a combination of two effects:
1) Men will marry up or down in economic status, but women insist on marrying equal or up.
2) Women now have the same access to economic opportunity as men, at least up to the age of 30 by which time most couples pair up.
The result is a surplus of unattached men at the low end of economic status and a surplus of women at the high end.
Any evidence for assertion 1)?
Mrs P. certainly didn't marry 'up' economically.
It’s almost certainly true. Women desire taller men who are of higher status. Multiple analyses of dating websites prove this.
It is also true for super rich women. They want men EVEN RICHER than them. Which leaves them a small pool to fish in
Is the whole incel thing a subsection of the wider societial issue of the likes of social media boostering all these so called influencers appearing to have the perfect look, the perfect life, endless money, all the latest gear?
Back in the day you compared yourself with your mates and perhaps the old person you knew that perhaps had a flash car etc.
Now the lives of the rich is all out there to see and then you have all these fake influencer who make it apper they also have this perfect life.
An example of this is when I was building my home gym I did a load of research of which kit to buy. My social media even to this day is packed with steroid jacked men as clearly big tech super brain algorithms has equated me wanting gym kit with wanting to see endless pictures of roided up men.
It's a combination of two effects:
1) Men will marry up or down in economic status, but women insist on marrying equal or up.
2) Women now have the same access to economic opportunity as men, at least up to the age of 30 by which time most couples pair up.
The result is a surplus of unattached men at the low end of economic status and a surplus of women at the high end.
I don't know whether that's true in general, but I know several couples in which the woman is the main earner. Indeed, pre-children my wife earned more than me (although not by a huge amount, so we were able to go with her desire for me to be the main earner post children without it being a big deal financially)
I'd be in rhe poor house but for my missus. I have other attributes and charms.
‘The World Health Organization has announced it is setting up a new group to trace Covid’s origins, seeking to end what it called “political point scoring” that had hampered investigations. It comes as Danish scientist Peter Ben Embarek, who led the original international mission to Wuhan, unexpectedly suggested in a documentary released yesterday that Covid’s patient zero could be a lab employee infected while collecting bat coronavirus samples.’
Is NigelB literally the last PB-er pimping out the ‘it came from a bat in a soup in the market’ bollocks?
An employee getting bitten while collecting samples in a cave is not the lab-leak theory. Admittedly, it has been suggested that Chinese obstruction prevented full exploration of the lab-leak hypothesis, but this is not it.
Yes it fucking is
A lab worker researching novel bat Coronaviruses for a specialized lab set up to research novel bat coronaviruses who then brings it back to the city where the same lab does the research - that’s a lab leak
It leaked because of science and labs. It was it not some ‘natural’ leap from a fucking pangolin to a peasant
This is goal post shifting on the most heroic level
A lab leak would be dropping a test tube in the lab, releasing a virus that had been stored at the lab. This is not that.
lol
You have not read the article then, or other coverage, that states pretty clearly that the lab-leak investigation was effectively blocked by China. This is an alternative theory. Separate still is the market theory.
‘The World Health Organization has announced it is setting up a new group to trace Covid’s origins, seeking to end what it called “political point scoring” that had hampered investigations. It comes as Danish scientist Peter Ben Embarek, who led the original international mission to Wuhan, unexpectedly suggested in a documentary released yesterday that Covid’s patient zero could be a lab employee infected while collecting bat coronavirus samples.’
Is NigelB literally the last PB-er pimping out the ‘it came from a bat in a soup in the market’ bollocks?
An employee getting bitten while collecting samples in a cave is not the lab-leak theory. Admittedly, it has been suggested that Chinese obstruction prevented full exploration of the lab-leak hypothesis, but this is not it.
Yes it fucking is
A lab worker researching novel bat Coronaviruses for a specialized lab set up to research novel bat coronaviruses who then brings it back to the city where the same lab does the research - that’s a lab leak
It leaked because of science and labs. It was it not some ‘natural’ leap from a fucking pangolin to a peasant
This is goal post shifting on the most heroic level
A lab leak would be dropping a test tube in the lab, releasing a virus that had been stored at the lab. This is not that.
lol
You have not read the article then, or other coverage, that states pretty clearly that the lab-leak investigation was effectively blocked by China. This is an alternative theory. Separate still is the market theory.
Oh I did read that and have read plenty of other stuff on the subject, and I think it's not unlikely it came from the lab. But my lol was for your literal description of a lab leak.
I can see this argument re casual sex in the Internet age. But there is still the same men to women ratio for long term relationships. So why should there be men left on the shelf?
Re. the Plymouth shootings: * it seems the incel scene tanks some men up to have the kind of attitude that can explode in such murderous attacks - this is not the first time; * it is clear to those who don't know the scene that much of what is being written about it today by "experts" is gobbledegook, which is presumably even clearer to those who do know it; * what the hell is wrong with men who choose to gather with other incel men and moan about how bad it is to be an incel rather than going out and meeting women?
Crippling fear of rejection, self hatred, seeking external cause to rage against.
You’ve just described England’s mental breakdown.
Prominent expert on all things English from Sweden gives us the benefit of his wisdom. We are blessed.
Seriously, find yourself a hobby, some friends, a job, anything. Get a pet maybe. Your unrelenting obsession with denigrating anything and anyone English is deeply unhealthy. Exercise might be good.
Stuart Dickson’s visceral hatred of, and inferiority complex to, the English, reminds me a bit of Hitler’s anti-semitism. It is so bizarrely unhinged.
Many biographers have tried to explain WHY Hitler became so maniacally anti-Jewish. Was he dumped by a Jewish girlfriend? Did he feel outdone by the Jewish kids in Linz who got into art school where he failed? No theory really comprehends it, no historical incident explains it. The floridity is so outrageous
The odd thing is that, if you can ever get Dickson OFF the subject of Scot Nattery and English evilness, he can be quite civil, even engaging and diverting
I wonder if Hitler was the same. He’d meet up with his mates for a beer and they’d all agree beforehand ‘look, just don’t mention the Jews’!
Ah, fuck it, he’s a small minded knob. I let his derangements wind me up too easily when I really should be feeling pity. He can’t have much of a life.
‘The World Health Organization has announced it is setting up a new group to trace Covid’s origins, seeking to end what it called “political point scoring” that had hampered investigations. It comes as Danish scientist Peter Ben Embarek, who led the original international mission to Wuhan, unexpectedly suggested in a documentary released yesterday that Covid’s patient zero could be a lab employee infected while collecting bat coronavirus samples.’
Is NigelB literally the last PB-er pimping out the ‘it came from a bat in a soup in the market’ bollocks?
An employee getting bitten while collecting samples in a cave is not the lab-leak theory. Admittedly, it has been suggested that Chinese obstruction prevented full exploration of the lab-leak hypothesis, but this is not it.
Yes it fucking is
A lab worker researching novel bat Coronaviruses for a specialized lab set up to research novel bat coronaviruses who then brings it back to the city where the same lab does the research - that’s a lab leak
It leaked because of science and labs. It was it not some ‘natural’ leap from a fucking pangolin to a peasant
This is goal post shifting on the most heroic level
A lab leak would be dropping a test tube in the lab, releasing a virus that had been stored at the lab. This is not that.
lol
You have not read the article then, or other coverage, that states pretty clearly that the lab-leak investigation was effectively blocked by China. This is an alternative theory. Separate still is the market theory.
No, geoffw’s original response was correct and admirably cogent:
I can see this argument re casual sex in the Internet age. But there is still the same men to women ratio for long term relationships. So why should there be men left on the shelf?
Well it’s 105:100 so at least 1 in 21 men will by definition be single at any one time.
I can see this argument re casual sex in the Internet age. But there is still the same men to women ratio for long term relationships. So why should there be men left on the shelf?
Because there is no economic need to get paired off any more (women have access to fulfilling work, and status, that they haven't had for a long time) and being single is a far preferable option for many women than being tied to some great hairy fool.
‘The World Health Organization has announced it is setting up a new group to trace Covid’s origins, seeking to end what it called “political point scoring” that had hampered investigations. It comes as Danish scientist Peter Ben Embarek, who led the original international mission to Wuhan, unexpectedly suggested in a documentary released yesterday that Covid’s patient zero could be a lab employee infected while collecting bat coronavirus samples.’
Is NigelB literally the last PB-er pimping out the ‘it came from a bat in a soup in the market’ bollocks?
An employee getting bitten while collecting samples in a cave is not the lab-leak theory. Admittedly, it has been suggested that Chinese obstruction prevented full exploration of the lab-leak hypothesis, but this is not it.
Yes it fucking is
A lab worker researching novel bat Coronaviruses for a specialized lab set up to research novel bat coronaviruses who then brings it back to the city where the same lab does the research - that’s a lab leak
It leaked because of science and labs. It was it not some ‘natural’ leap from a fucking pangolin to a peasant
This is goal post shifting on the most heroic level
A lab leak would be dropping a test tube in the lab, releasing a virus that had been stored at the lab. This is not that.
lol
You have not read the article then, or other coverage, that states pretty clearly that the lab-leak investigation was effectively blocked by China. This is an alternative theory. Separate still is the market theory.
Oh I did read that and have read plenty of other stuff on the subject, and I think it's not unlikely it came from the lab. But my lol was for your literal description of a lab leak.
That is, in essence, the lab leak theory proposed over the last several months. An inadvertent leak of a stored virus in a lab that may or may not have been appropriately biosecure. Not totally removed from the smallpox leak in Birmingham a few decades back.
Re. the Plymouth shootings: * it seems the incel scene tanks some men up to have the kind of attitude that can explode in such murderous attacks - this is not the first time; * it is clear to those who don't know the scene that much of what is being written about it today by "experts" is gobbledegook, which is presumably even clearer to those who do know it; * what the hell is wrong with men who choose to gather with other incel men and moan about how bad it is to be an incel rather than going out and meeting women?
Crippling fear of rejection, self hatred, seeking external cause to rage against.
You’ve just described England’s mental breakdown.
Prominent expert on all things English from Sweden gives us the benefit of his wisdom. We are blessed.
Seriously, find yourself a hobby, some friends, a job, anything. Get a pet maybe. Your unrelenting obsession with denigrating anything and anyone English is deeply unhealthy. Exercise might be good.
Stuart Dickson’s visceral hatred of, and inferiority complex to, the English, reminds me a bit of Hitler’s anti-semitism. It is so bizarrely unhinged.
Many biographers have tried to explain WHY Hitler became so maniacally anti-Jewish. Was he dumped by a Jewish girlfriend? Did he feel outdone by the Jewish kids in Linz who got into art school where he failed? No theory really comprehends it, no historical incident explains it. The floridity is so outrageous
The odd thing is that, if you can ever get Dickson OFF the subject of Scot Nattery and English evilness, he can be quite civil, even engaging and diverting
I wonder if Hitler was the same. He’d meet up with his mates for a beer and they’d all agree beforehand ‘look, just don’t mention the Jews’!
Ah, fuck it, he’s a small minded knob. I let his derangements wind me up too easily when I really should be feeling pity. He can’t have much of a life.
I confess I find it pleasurable to wind him up when I’m bored. It’s probably a sin which I should abjure
I can see this argument re casual sex in the Internet age. But there is still the same men to women ratio for long term relationships. So why should there be men left on the shelf?
Well it’s 105:100 so at least 1 in 21 men will by definition be single at any one time.
But aren't the extra 5 (in 105) all >70 years old?
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https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/cambo-oil-field-nicola-sturgeon-faces-snp-backlash-over-opposition-lzbchpqkz
Indeed, he has already made the point HMG could be sued by the Company as the licence has already been granted
Instead of waking up cuddling a total stranger or a half eaten kebab, or both, you could have the keys to a 400k property.
The oil is still needed and will be for the time being. Most people realise that even if a few eco crackpots think oil Just equals petrol
It is alleged the Plymouth shooter has his shotgun licence approved again last month, after it had been revoked in 2020
Anyway, if Scotland were to become independent tomorrow and thence to forcibly shutter its oil extraction and petrochemicals industries, then it could certainly stake a claim to global moral leadership - but moral leadership doesn't pay the bills, as attested to by, for example, the economically crippled condition of post-War Britain.
Police will face an investigation over their dealings with Jake Davison, 22, who expressed sympathy for the “incel” movement and a keen interest in mass shootings. One resident from Plymouth, where the killing spree took place, said Davison’s family had sought treatment for his mental health issues.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/aug/13/plymouth-shooting-police-reinstated-gunmans-firearms-licence-last-month
This is just the kind of incident that could lead to a further tightening of firearms legislation, as happened post-Dunblane.
This is the real issue. Underfunded mental health services.
Starmer needs to attack on this one.
A Cardiff University pharmacy student died within hours of being told she had failed a crucial examination though it was later updated by the University as a pass
However, the 21 year old never saw the update and was found on rocks below the Britannia Bridge on the 8th July last year
The Scottish Government now not only needs to answer questions about the public sector deficit, the national debt, the currency and balancing relations between the rest of the UK and wider Europe. It will also have to address the suspicion that sovereignty will mean killing the oil and petrochemical industries stone dead to burnish the nation's green credentials, thus liquidating all the jobs and all the tax revenues (and crippling the entire city of Aberdeen into the bargain, in a grim echo of what Margaret Thatcher's policies on coal did to the mining communities.) A strategic misstep.
Whatevs, 'It’s Scotland Oil' to coin a phrase.
https://twitter.com/ScotTories/status/1426097799494578178?s=20
The phrasing is odd - perhaps *he* was unwilling to seek help for the issues but wasn’t deemed serious enough to section
The independence supporters always gloss over the issue of the currency and debt. They have no proper answer to what they will do.
* it seems the incel scene tanks some men up to have the kind of attitude that can explode in such murderous attacks - this is not the first time;
* it is clear to those who don't know the scene that much of what is being written about it today by "experts" is gobbledegook, which is presumably even clearer to those who do know it;
* what the hell is wrong with men who choose to gather with other incel men and moan about how bad it is to be an incel rather than going out and meeting women?
What we and the Americans fail to grasp is that you can’t go in and kill all the bad guys; the mere act of occupation and perceived injustice generates new bad guys to replace every one that gets taken out. A lesson it took us a long time to learn even within our own nation.
Some (straight) men who can't get laid insist they have a right to sex and turn their anger towards innocent women. A woman who's not getting any would probably just buy some nice battery-powered toys to play with. Go figure.
The truth is the mistakes were made in the George W Bush presidency when, as I recall, the Republicans controlled the White House, Senate and Congress from 2000-06.
Bush's "reasons" for going after Saddam seemed more to do with settling a score for his father than any geopolitical reasoning. Saddam was neutered by the Gulf War and little more than an irritation.
‘The World Health Organization has announced it is setting up a new group to trace Covid’s origins, seeking to end what it called “political point scoring” that had hampered investigations. It comes as Danish scientist Peter Ben Embarek, who led the original international mission to Wuhan, unexpectedly suggested in a documentary released yesterday that Covid’s patient zero could be a lab employee infected while collecting bat coronavirus samples.’
Is NigelB literally the last PB-er pimping out the ‘it came from a bat in a soup in the market’ bollocks?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2021/aug/13/coronavirus-live-news-who-expert-wuhan-lab-south-korea?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
Back in the day you compared yourself with your mates and perhaps the old person you knew that perhaps had a flash car etc.
Now the lives of the rich is all out there to see and then you have all these fake influencer who make it apper they also have this perfect life.
An example of this is when I was building my home gym I did a load of research of which kit to buy. My social media even to this day is packed with steroid jacked men as clearly big tech super brain algorithms has equated me wanting gym kit with wanting to see endless pictures of roided up men boasting about their flash lives with hot women on their arms.
I imagine for many they would feel very inferior seeing this.
By opting for sterlingisation, Scotland would place itself in the position of being a newly independent state with no established credit history, borrowing in a foreign currency which it cannot itself issue, to finance a very substantial deficit. This is not optimal.
The obvious alternative is to do what the Greens have suggested and float a new currency, administered and issued by a Scottish central bank - but that, of course, brings its own challenges.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/aug/13/plymouth-shooting-suspect-what-we-know-jake-davison
“Maybe the business owner might go bankrupt twice … but guess what – he had a wife and kids to support him. Does incel or virgin get that? No. Imagine failing at everything in life and having absolutely no support whatsoever.”
Quite what can be done about this, I don’t know.
1) Men will marry up or down in economic status, but women insist on marrying equal or up.
2) Women now have the same access to economic opportunity as men, at least up to the age of 30 by which time most couples pair up.
The result is a surplus of unattached men at the low end of economic status and a surplus of women at the high end.
illiberal threat.
@McDivergence
the "Book Will Turn Your Kids Trans" crowd really need to start explaining why I am not, in fact, a very hungry caterpillar.
It isn't solely about the money, they aren't looking for a multi-millionaire so they can pack it all in and live a life of luxury, but they want somebody who is driven like them and can enjoy nicer things in life....but they absolutely don't want to be funding the man to do this, it has to be equal. They aren't interested in a nice guy who works in the supermarket and earns minimum wage.
Where as we know men will do this.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/scotland-is-only-uk-nation-with-falling-covid-infection-rate-762s8tct5
I agree with you that it can cause some sense of perceived injustice, but if you do it based on clear grounds and not manufactured ones, most locals will still think "it was their fault for attacking the West in the first place". And any residual blowback mentality is probably outweighed by the positive deterrent effect.
A lab worker researching novel bat Coronaviruses for a specialized lab set up to research novel bat coronaviruses who then brings it back to the city where the same lab does the research - that’s a lab leak
It leaked because of science and labs. It was it not some ‘natural’ leap from a fucking pangolin to a peasant
This is goal post shifting on the most heroic level
Mrs P. certainly didn't marry 'up' economically.
Seriously, find yourself a hobby, some friends, a job, anything. Get a pet maybe. Your unrelenting obsession with denigrating anything and anyone English is deeply unhealthy. Exercise might be good.
Who in their right mind would date these incels?
To be fair, I'm not a good example as we probably qualified as economic equals, but my friends include a female lawyer married to an electrician and a goldman employee married to a teacher
Now many more women can choose, they are financially independent and successfully, thus a partner has to bring something to the party which significantly inproves their life. They don't need the hassle of some dickhead or weird man.
Stuart Dickson’s visceral hatred of, and inferiority complex to, the English, reminds me a bit of Hitler’s anti-semitism. It is so bizarrely unhinged.
Many biographers have tried to explain WHY Hitler became so maniacally anti-Jewish. Was he dumped by a Jewish girlfriend? Did he feel outdone by the Jewish kids in Linz who got into art school where he failed? No theory really comprehends it, no historical incident explains it. The floridity is so outrageous
The odd thing is that, if you can ever get Dickson OFF the subject of Scot Nattery and English evilness, he can be quite civil, even engaging and diverting
I wonder if Hitler was the same. He’d meet up with his mates for a beer and they’d all agree beforehand ‘look, just don’t mention the Jews’!
On a related topic: I have been involved in some interesting conversations with clients regarding whether or not they are in a relationship, since if they are they have to claim UC as a couple (which is considerably less beneficial). The definition of 'a couple' is a bit vague, to say the least. UC encourages people not to form relationships.
When do the schools go back in Scotland?
It is also true for super rich women. They want men EVEN RICHER than them. Which leaves them a small pool to fish in
I have other attributes and charms.
How much did Arsenal pay for Ben White
But there is still the same men to women ratio for long term relationships. So why should there be men left on the shelf?
lol
But hey, life is full of longueurs
The ghost of Ron Noades will be pleased.