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  • FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 9,708
    I don't think Netherlands are that great. They have a really good draw though. I did tip them on here a few days ago
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 81,455
    BREAKING: Brazil reports 115,228 new coronavirus cases, the biggest one-day increase on record, and 2,392 new deaths
  • BigRichBigRich Posts: 3,491

    It looks like infections in Spain might be starting to increase:

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/spain/


    I can't see that from the link - the 7 day average is still declining slowly.
    Yes, but 4,300 cases today, verse 3,300 yesterday,
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 27,575

    Black man names brand of rum after festival that mocks plantation owners and inspiration for Notting Hill Carnival...but is cultural appropriation so still has to go.

    BBC News - Actor Michael B Jordan to rename J'Ouvert rum after Nicki Minaj criticism
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-57581240

    It is kind of missing the point but is it just me who is tired of celebrity booze, perfume, and whatever else they've had no involvement in besides a financial one?
  • glwglw Posts: 9,871
    Scott_xP said:

    Things you didn’t read on that Brexit bus five years ago: Roaming charges to return for travellers to EU in Brexit blow, leading operator announces https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-eu-o2-data-roaming-charges-b1871484.html

    That article is misleading, there was never unlimited data as part of the regulation. A fair use policy was always applicable, all O2 are doing is changing the policy but it would still comply with the regulation. Even the fee being charged is only slightly higher than the regulated price.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 54,677
    South America. Grim

    "JUST IN: Brazil reports single-day record of 115,228 new coronavirus cases"
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 81,455
    edited June 2021

    Black man names brand of rum after festival that mocks plantation owners and inspiration for Notting Hill Carnival...but is cultural appropriation so still has to go.

    BBC News - Actor Michael B Jordan to rename J'Ouvert rum after Nicki Minaj criticism
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-57581240

    It is kind of missing the point but is it just me who is tired of celebrity booze, perfume, and whatever else they've had no involvement in besides a financial one?
    It makes me far less likely to buy it....as normally means product is so mediocre that they don't think they can't sell itself without the overt celebrity endorsement.
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    Scotland case mega surge is almost certainly the football.

    Timing is basically perfect plus case mix has gone from 50/50 male/female to 66/33 male/female.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,342

    Euro 2020 prices on Betfair and their implied probabilities. England are now third-favourites, in from sixth-best this morning.

    1 France 5.4 18.5%
    2 Italy 7.8 12.8%
    3 England 8 12.5%
    4 Germany 8.6 11.6%
    5 Spain 9.6 10.4%
    6 Netherlands 10.5 9.5%
    7 Belgium 11 9.1%
    8 Portugal 13.5 7.4%
    9 Denmark 22 4.5%
    10 Sweden 70 1.4%
    11 Croatia 75 1.3%
    100 bar.

    I would not be confident England can beat any in that list
    I'd not be too confident of any outcome. France look the most likely winners but after them, and perhaps even including them, there is not a great deal separating these sides.
    France should win, but as we saw against Hungary and tonight they haven't won those games despite being the better team. So not a done deal.

    Italy have looked exceptional and Belgium and Holland look very good.
    Not much reward for winning all 3 games for Belgium.
    Portugal, Italy then France or Spain just to make the final.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 56,923

    It looks like infections in Spain might be starting to increase:

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/spain/


    I can't see that from the link - the 7 day average is still declining slowly.
    23/06 4,341
    22/06 4,040
    21/06 2,360
    18/06 4,214

    16/06 3,832
    15/06 3,432
    14/06 2,674
    11/06 4,142

    So the last two days have shown significant increases over the previous week.

    Not conclusive yet but its following the pattern of Portugal of a few weeks back.

    Spain has a higher case number than Portugal did but it also will have a higher level of vaccine protection.
    The Spain data is slightly weird because they often have days when they don't release data at all, and then they do catch ups.

    But as you say, the cases are almost certainly rising.
  • BromBrom Posts: 3,760
    Today’s results are about as good as it gets realistically for England. We’ve got a 40% chance of beating Germany IMO but if we do I’d have us favourites to win the QF and SF. Avoiding France was key to give us a chance.

    Portugal really should have gone for it in the end. They couldn’t go out and another goal meant they’d play Switzerland rather than Belgium.
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    BigRich said:

    Covid antibodies:

    Wales 88.7%
    England 86.6%
    NI 85.4%
    Scotland 79.1%

    https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/bulletins/coronaviruscovid19infectionsurveyantibodyandvaccinationdatafortheuk/22june2021

    I wonder if this difference is having and effect re current infections and hospitalisations.

    Thanks for positing that, interesting that was for the week beginning 7 June, when the following % had had there first jab:

    Wales: 86.6%
    England: 76.6%
    NI: 75.3%
    Scotland: 76.8%

    Suggesting that there are a significant number of people in England and NI that have antibodies without having had the vaccine, but less so in Wales and Scotland, cant think why?
    England has had far more cases than Scotland.
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 26,470
    rcs1000 said:

    It looks like infections in Spain might be starting to increase:

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/spain/

    The WHO site has more up to date info (https://covid19.who.int/region/euro/country/es), however I'm sure you're right: they're right next to Portugal, and there have been clear signs of growth along the Southern coast.

    In their favour, they've *really* stepped up the pace of vaccinations. Eyeballing it, they're now at the same place the UK was around the middle of May.
    Regional differences are often covered up by the national picture initially.

    I think Spain is further behind on the first vaccinations than that.

    And there's the big yet to be answered question of what level of vaccination does each country reach.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 54,677
    It is quite incredible that there are 2m more EU citizens living here than hitherto thought. That's a huuuuge number

    Britain has a population of 69m not 67m (meaning, inter alia, it is significantly bigger than France)
  • BigRichBigRich Posts: 3,491

    BREAKING: Brazil reports 115,228 new coronavirus cases, the biggest one-day increase on record, and 2,392 new deaths

    Very sad, are Brazil using the china made vaccine?
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 81,455
    BigRich said:

    BREAKING: Brazil reports 115,228 new coronavirus cases, the biggest one-day increase on record, and 2,392 new deaths

    Very sad, are Brazil using the china made vaccine?
    AZN and chinese vaccine mainly I believe.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 54,677
    Fuck Europe. Sever all ties
  • RazedabodeRazedabode Posts: 3,027
    Alistair said:

    Scotland case mega surge is almost certainly the football.

    Timing is basically perfect plus case mix has gone from 50/50 male/female to 66/33 male/female.

    Na, surge is from the English deliberately spreading the virus in Scotland
  • BigRichBigRich Posts: 3,491
    Leon said:

    It is quite incredible that there are 2m more EU citizens living here than hitherto thought. That's a huuuuge number

    Britain has a population of 69m not 67m (meaning, inter alia, it is significantly bigger than France)

    Where is that from?, (I'm not doubting you just interested)

    That would also slightly lower our Deaths per Million, and our vaccinations per million.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 54,677
    BigRich said:

    Leon said:

    It is quite incredible that there are 2m more EU citizens living here than hitherto thought. That's a huuuuge number

    Britain has a population of 69m not 67m (meaning, inter alia, it is significantly bigger than France)

    Where is that from?, (I'm not doubting you just interested)

    That would also slightly lower our Deaths per Million, and our vaccinations per million.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/56846637
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 26,470
    Leon said:

    It is quite incredible that there are 2m more EU citizens living here than hitherto thought. That's a huuuuge number

    Britain has a population of 69m not 67m (meaning, inter alia, it is significantly bigger than France)

    Hitherto officially claimed - many have suspected that the actual numbers were far higher.

    It would also demolish claims about productive the average European immigrant was.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 81,455
    They weren't wrong about the 2nd dose of moderna being worse than the 1st....i have what feels like the worst hangover ever....well until a couple of weeks time, then I might be be achieving via the traditional manner.
  • TheValiantTheValiant Posts: 1,873

    Germany probably go on and win the tournament now.

    Well they've got close to a free pass to the semi-final. The likelihood of their being derailed by England is nil, and they'll be strong favourites against either Sweden or Ukraine.
    Did you miss the Germany/Hungary game that has just finished? Not much to fear.
    I often wonder what other teams think when they are facing England.
    I suspect its, "Yeah, if they have a really good day they can beat us, but they're usually rubbish so we'll see them off."
    That goes for any of the remaining 15 other teams. Even Wales could dump England out I reckon.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,167
    "Could Labour come third in Batley & Spen? Tories say George Galloway is 'destroying' Keir Starmer's hopes in crucial by-election and hard-Left ex-MP is now the main 'threat' to effort to seize another piece of Red Wall

    Labour struggling to hold on in Batley & Spen by-election happening on July 1
    Tories believe George Galloway 'hoovering up' votes from Muslim community"

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9712893/Could-Labour-come-Batley-Spen.html
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 95,871

    Black man names brand of rum after festival that mocks plantation owners and inspiration for Notting Hill Carnival...but is cultural appropriation so still has to go.

    BBC News - Actor Michael B Jordan to rename J'Ouvert rum after Nicki Minaj criticism
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-57581240

    It is kind of missing the point but is it just me who is tired of celebrity booze, perfume, and whatever else they've had no involvement in besides a financial one?
    Fair play to actors etc for making money in other ventures, in some cases they will earn considerably more than through acting/singing, but as you suggest how many more boozes and scents are needed? I guess if they do well that's its own answer, but not every bit of business news counts as entertainment news just because an entertainer is involved somewhere (in this case the added element of cultural appropriate gets it more attention).
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,167
    edited June 2021
    Leon said:

    It is quite incredible that there are 2m more EU citizens living here than hitherto thought. That's a huuuuge number

    Britain has a population of 69m not 67m (meaning, inter alia, it is significantly bigger than France)

    Not surprising. I keep saying the population of the country has increased by about 10 million since 2000, which is why house prices never go down, no matter how many new properties are built.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 95,871
    edited June 2021
    Leon said:

    It is quite incredible that there are 2m more EU citizens living here than hitherto thought. That's a huuuuge number

    Britain has a population of 69m not 67m (meaning, inter alia, it is significantly bigger than France)

    Assuming they count more accurately than us.

    In fairness there was a chap on here who thought there were considerably more people in the UK than thought, though I think their upper estimate was still about 10m higher than that even.
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 26,470

    It looks like infections in Spain might be starting to increase:

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/spain/

    Not on the data you linked too though.
    It is if you look at the daily totals and compare with the previous week.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,586

    Leon said:

    It is quite incredible that there are 2m more EU citizens living here than hitherto thought. That's a huuuuge number

    Britain has a population of 69m not 67m (meaning, inter alia, it is significantly bigger than France)

    Hitherto officially claimed - many have suspected that the actual numbers were far higher.

    It would also demolish claims about productive the average European immigrant was.
    How so?
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 81,455
    edited June 2021

    Germany probably go on and win the tournament now.

    Well they've got close to a free pass to the semi-final. The likelihood of their being derailed by England is nil, and they'll be strong favourites against either Sweden or Ukraine.
    Did you miss the Germany/Hungary game that has just finished? Not much to fear.
    I often wonder what other teams think when they are facing England.
    I suspect its, "Yeah, if they have a really good day they can beat us, but they're usually rubbish so we'll see them off."
    That goes for any of the remaining 15 other teams. Even Wales could dump England out I reckon.
    More like nothing to worry about, they will pass it really slowly for most of the game that is easy to cover, we just need to watch out for the few occasions they show something, but it will soon pass...and the bloke they play up front is now so slow after been thrashed like an abused horse, we don't have to worry about them scoring many, they couldn't even get the ball in the net against Scotland.
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670

    Alistair said:

    Scotland case mega surge is almost certainly the football.

    Timing is basically perfect plus case mix has gone from 50/50 male/female to 66/33 male/female.

    Na, surge is from the English deliberately spreading the virus in Scotland
    Well we all saw that in the videos with Scottish fans vainly trying to keep social distancing intact whilst Englanders went about coughing all over them.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 54,677
    edited June 2021
    Utterly feeble analysis of Brexit effects on the EU on Newsnight. Three minutes of superficial fluff and a couple of opinion polls and some Remainy twat whingeing about Brexit per se

    What is the point in this kind of flimsy but dedicated broadcast news? Anyone who wants profound analysis will be sorely disappointed, and will go to specialist sources online, anyone who wants Strictly Come Dancing won't be watching

    Who the fuck watches Newsnight any more? It fails on all counts

    It is roughly the equivalent of a publicly-funded town crier surviving into the era of print journalism
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 56,923

    rcs1000 said:

    It looks like infections in Spain might be starting to increase:

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/spain/

    The WHO site has more up to date info (https://covid19.who.int/region/euro/country/es), however I'm sure you're right: they're right next to Portugal, and there have been clear signs of growth along the Southern coast.

    In their favour, they've *really* stepped up the pace of vaccinations. Eyeballing it, they're now at the same place the UK was around the middle of May.
    Regional differences are often covered up by the national picture initially.

    I think Spain is further behind on the first vaccinations than that.

    And there's the big yet to be answered question of what level of vaccination does each country reach.
    They're really not.

    Spain is at 84 doses per 100 inhabitants. The UK got there on 17 May. And Spain has very little AZN overhang (other than @felix), so the real gap is probably slightly less than that.

    Now, it may be that there is greater vaccine hesitancy there, but right now, they're doing a pretty good job of catching up.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,586
    Leon said:

    Fuck Europe. Sever all ties

    Weren't you arguing yesterday what a disaster the Covid restrictions are for the tourist industry? It's obviously not such an important industry today!
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    It was only a few months ago that everyone was saying that there was less EU citizens here than previously thought.

    Schrodinger's citizens.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 95,871
    Leon said:

    Utterly feeble analysis of Brexit effects on the EU on Newsnight. Three minutes of superficial fluff and a couple of opinion polls and some Remainy twat whingeing about Brexit per se

    What is the point in this kind of flimsy but dedicated broadcast news? Anyone who wants profound analysis will be sorely disappointed, and will go to specialist sources online, anyone who wants Strictly Come Dancing won't be watching

    Who the fuck watches Newsnight any more? It fails on all counts

    It is roughly the equivalent of a publicly-funded town crier surviving into the era of print journalism

    Town criers can survive, they're just not allowed to cry during Covid - even during a crying competition

    For the first time in its history, this year's British Town Crier Championships is being held in complete silence.

    As the country starts to exit lockdown, the UK's top professional shouters will be judged on their written cries alone...

    Organiser and Bishops Stortford crier Carole Williams said it was "a return to the bare bones of crying".


    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-56766202

    Granted Ms Williams is a crier and I am not, but I feel like we have different views on what the bare bones of the craft is.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 81,455
    Leon said:

    Utterly feeble analysis of Brexit effects on the EU on Newsnight. Three minutes of superficial fluff and a couple of opinion polls and some Remainy twat whingeing about Brexit per se

    What is the point in this kind of flimsy but dedicated broadcast news? Anyone who wants profound analysis will be sorely disappointed, and will go to specialist sources online, anyone who wants Strictly Come Dancing won't be watching

    Who the fuck watches Newsnight any more? It fails on all counts

    It is roughly the equivalent of a publicly-funded town crier surviving into the era of print journalism

    Well its only you and the Guardian readers watching these days..... literally....the ratings are piss poor.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 21,965
    Leon said:

    It is quite incredible that there are 2m more EU citizens living here than hitherto thought. That's a huuuuge number

    Britain has a population of 69m not 67m (meaning, inter alia, it is significantly bigger than France)

    Add on all those lads in garden sheds in Southall and Hounslow and we'll top 70 million.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,824
    Leon said:

    It is quite incredible that there are 2m more EU citizens living here than hitherto thought. That's a huuuuge number

    Britain has a population of 69m not 67m (meaning, inter alia, it is significantly bigger than France)

    Are the population estimates wrong? The two aren't necessarily connected.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,480
    Leon said:

    It is quite incredible that there are 2m more EU citizens living here than hitherto thought. That's a huuuuge number

    Britain has a population of 69m not 67m (meaning, inter alia, it is significantly bigger than France)

    I am not sure that they are all actually resident. I know several Greek doctors that applied for settled status, and got it, but are back in Greece and coming over for an occasional locum. I think their status lapses if they are not careful. That may be the case in a number of other lines of work.
  • FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 9,708
    Leon said:

    Utterly feeble analysis of Brexit effects on the EU on Newsnight. Three minutes of superficial fluff and a couple of opinion polls and some Remainy twat whingeing about Brexit per se

    What is the point in this kind of flimsy but dedicated broadcast news? Anyone who wants profound analysis will be sorely disappointed, and will go to specialist sources online, anyone who wants Strictly Come Dancing won't be watching

    Who the fuck watches Newsnight any more? It fails on all counts

    It is roughly the equivalent of a publicly-funded town crier surviving into the era of print journalism

    Nevermind. Are you going to be supporting Germany by the way? I know how upset you were with the England boys and their BLM posturing.
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    Scott_xP said:

    Things you didn’t read on that Brexit bus five years ago: Roaming charges to return for travellers to EU in Brexit blow, leading operator announces https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-eu-o2-data-roaming-charges-b1871484.html

    Company makes pricing decision in a free market.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,586
    edited June 2021
    There's a NEW THREAD, just sayin'
  • BigRichBigRich Posts: 3,491
    Andy_JS said:

    "Could Labour come third in Batley & Spen? Tories say George Galloway is 'destroying' Keir Starmer's hopes in crucial by-election and hard-Left ex-MP is now the main 'threat' to effort to seize another piece of Red Wall

    Labour struggling to hold on in Batley & Spen by-election happening on July 1
    Tories believe George Galloway 'hoovering up' votes from Muslim community"

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9712893/Could-Labour-come-Batley-Spen.html

    I think that prediction deserves the scepticism that we showed to the LD 'leaked' internal pole last week.

    However it would be funny if it did happen.
  • JonathanJonathan Posts: 21,555

    Euro 2020 prices on Betfair and their implied probabilities. England are now third-favourites, in from sixth-best this morning.

    1 France 5.4 18.5%
    2 Italy 7.8 12.8%
    3 England 8 12.5%
    4 Germany 8.6 11.6%
    5 Spain 9.6 10.4%
    6 Netherlands 10.5 9.5%
    7 Belgium 11 9.1%
    8 Portugal 13.5 7.4%
    9 Denmark 22 4.5%
    10 Sweden 70 1.4%
    11 Croatia 75 1.3%
    100 bar.

    I would not be confident England can beat any in that list
    BigG will you take a bet that England will beat at least one of those at the Euro 2020 tournament.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 54,677

    Leon said:

    Utterly feeble analysis of Brexit effects on the EU on Newsnight. Three minutes of superficial fluff and a couple of opinion polls and some Remainy twat whingeing about Brexit per se

    What is the point in this kind of flimsy but dedicated broadcast news? Anyone who wants profound analysis will be sorely disappointed, and will go to specialist sources online, anyone who wants Strictly Come Dancing won't be watching

    Who the fuck watches Newsnight any more? It fails on all counts

    It is roughly the equivalent of a publicly-funded town crier surviving into the era of print journalism

    Nevermind. Are you going to be supporting Germany by the way? I know how upset you were with the England boys and their BLM posturing.
    I want us to invade Frisia
  • BromBrom Posts: 3,760
    Andy_JS said:

    "Could Labour come third in Batley & Spen? Tories say George Galloway is 'destroying' Keir Starmer's hopes in crucial by-election and hard-Left ex-MP is now the main 'threat' to effort to seize another piece of Red Wall

    Labour struggling to hold on in Batley & Spen by-election happening on July 1
    Tories believe George Galloway 'hoovering up' votes from Muslim community"

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9712893/Could-Labour-come-Batley-Spen.html

    There was a voxpop in the Guardian where a guy said he was voting for the Labour candidate George Galloway. You’d think without the Muslim bloc Labour will really struggle to hold.

    Labour campaigning is stuck between a rock and a hard place talking about local issues and Palestine. The Tories are concentrating on the former, Galloway the latter and you wonder if Kim Leadbeater is losing out by having to rely on bridging the gap between 2 very different groups of voters. Having to offer 2 very different laser focused messages in one constituency makes it very hard to campaign.
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,216
    EXCLUSIVE: The Duke and Duchess of Sussex rejected the title Earl of Dumbarton for their son Archie because it contained the word "dumb", it has emerged

    https://twitter.com/telegraph/status/1407806843360063491?s=21
  • glwglw Posts: 9,871

    Leon said:

    It is quite incredible that there are 2m more EU citizens living here than hitherto thought. That's a huuuuge number

    Britain has a population of 69m not 67m (meaning, inter alia, it is significantly bigger than France)

    Add on all those lads in garden sheds in Southall and Hounslow and we'll top 70 million.
    Wikipedia said that in 2019 there were 427,000 Romanians living in the UK, but 918,000 applications for settled status by Romanians have been made. That's a huge discrepancy.

    If the settled status figures give us an another 2 million EEA citizens as residents I could easily imagine there are a couple of million more non-EEA people here without the right to stay.
  • alex_alex_ Posts: 7,518
    BigRich said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Could Labour come third in Batley & Spen? Tories say George Galloway is 'destroying' Keir Starmer's hopes in crucial by-election and hard-Left ex-MP is now the main 'threat' to effort to seize another piece of Red Wall

    Labour struggling to hold on in Batley & Spen by-election happening on July 1
    Tories believe George Galloway 'hoovering up' votes from Muslim community"

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9712893/Could-Labour-come-Batley-Spen.html

    I think that prediction deserves the scepticism that we showed to the LD 'leaked' internal pole last week.

    However it would be funny if it did happen.
    Funny but sad and depressing. That a pondlife like Galloway can continually manipulate people for votes.
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 26,470
    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    It looks like infections in Spain might be starting to increase:

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/spain/

    The WHO site has more up to date info (https://covid19.who.int/region/euro/country/es), however I'm sure you're right: they're right next to Portugal, and there have been clear signs of growth along the Southern coast.

    In their favour, they've *really* stepped up the pace of vaccinations. Eyeballing it, they're now at the same place the UK was around the middle of May.
    Regional differences are often covered up by the national picture initially.

    I think Spain is further behind on the first vaccinations than that.

    And there's the big yet to be answered question of what level of vaccination does each country reach.
    They're really not.

    Spain is at 84 doses per 100 inhabitants. The UK got there on 17 May. And Spain has very little AZN overhang (other than @felix), so the real gap is probably slightly less than that.

    Now, it may be that there is greater vaccine hesitancy there, but right now, they're doing a pretty good job of catching up.
    World in data has Spain at 50.1% first vaccinations which was reached by the UK on 28/04.

    But a few days here and there don't mean much - its the level of total vaccinations which are reached which will count.

    Which means Bulgaria and Romani, maybe others, will have serious problems.

    Any ideas why Hungary is much more willing to accept vaccinations than the rest of Eastern Europe,
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    kle4 said:

    Black man names brand of rum after festival that mocks plantation owners and inspiration for Notting Hill Carnival...but is cultural appropriation so still has to go.

    BBC News - Actor Michael B Jordan to rename J'Ouvert rum after Nicki Minaj criticism
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-57581240

    It is kind of missing the point but is it just me who is tired of celebrity booze, perfume, and whatever else they've had no involvement in besides a financial one?
    Fair play to actors etc for making money in other ventures, in some cases they will earn considerably more than through acting/singing, but as you suggest how many more boozes and scents are needed? I guess if they do well that's its own answer, but not every bit of business news counts as entertainment news just because an entertainer is involved somewhere (in this case the added element of cultural appropriate gets it more attention).
    Try celeb-endorsed SPACs if you think alcohol is pushing the limits of sanity
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 95,871

    EXCLUSIVE: The Duke and Duchess of Sussex rejected the title Earl of Dumbarton for their son Archie because it contained the word "dumb", it has emerged

    https://twitter.com/telegraph/status/1407806843360063491?s=21

    Sound move, unless Baron of Scunthorpe was on the table. Marquess of Shitterton?
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,824

    EXCLUSIVE: The Duke and Duchess of Sussex rejected the title Earl of Dumbarton for their son Archie because it contained the word "dumb", it has emerged

    https://twitter.com/telegraph/status/1407806843360063491?s=21

    They'll fit right in in the US.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 77,891
    rcs1000 said:

    It looks like infections in Spain might be starting to increase:

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/spain/

    The WHO site has more up to date info (https://covid19.who.int/region/euro/country/es), however I'm sure you're right: they're right next to Portugal, and there have been clear signs of growth along the Southern coast.

    In their favour, they've *really* stepped up the pace of vaccinations. Eyeballing it, they're now at the same place the UK was around the middle of May.
    7 day rolling average pace is

    Canada 1.18 (Supply limitation)
    EU 0.81 (Supply limitation)
    UK 0.55 (Dosing gap limitation)
    World 0.52 (Supply limitation)
    USA 0.34 (Demand limitation)
    Israel 0.04 (Severe demand limitation)
  • FlatlanderFlatlander Posts: 4,598
    edited June 2021
    kle4 said:

    EXCLUSIVE: The Duke and Duchess of Sussex rejected the title Earl of Dumbarton for their son Archie because it contained the word "dumb", it has emerged

    https://twitter.com/telegraph/status/1407806843360063491?s=21

    Sound move, unless Baron of Scunthorpe was on the table. Marquess of Shitterton?
    I thought Harry was Earl of Dumbarton?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earl_of_Dumbarton

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-44180383
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