All the Twitter jokes about "Con (+2)" on the day of Dom's 'revelations' ...
The other funny thing is all the Twitter jokes about if this is a 'twenty point lead' yet: at this rate some time soon there could be a 20 point lead, but if it happens it likely won't be for Sir Keir.
Why are we talking about aliens when there are so many other important things going on at the moment?
Because theorising about the existence of aliens in this system is more exciting than people dying in Blackburn, or more of what we like to do getting banned.
Yesterday's weather forecast for London must have been one of the worst ever. There was supposed to be either no rain or a light shower. Instead, Lords was totally washed out.
All the Twitter jokes about "Con (+2)" on the day of Dom's 'revelations' ...
The other funny thing is all the Twitter jokes about if this is a 'twenty point lead' yet: at this rate some time soon there could be a 20 point lead, but if it happens it likely won't be for Sir Keir.
It is somewhat paradoxical that the interesting political news that makes for good discussion amongst politico’s should be almost completely disregarded when thinking how it affects the polls/elections
RUBIO on UAP w/ Fox: “People immediately start thinking about extraterrestrials and little green men. We're not at that stage here. What we're saying is there are things that are not ours -- there are things that are not ours flying over military installations we don’t know what they are. They're talking about these things flying around. We just don't know what they are. We need to know what they are.”
I don't like Rubio's politics at all, but as a member of the Gang of Eight he's one of the few people who gets properly briefed about all the crazy stuff the US intelligence community gets up to. I don't see how anyone can blithely dismiss what he says, there are few people in a better position to know what is going on.
That's easy: (3) from Robert's list.
An ominous but hard to pin down here, a knowing phrase there but nothing concrete - now you've got whatever appropriations you want approved.
If the US military want more money they just ask for it, this is a rather elaborate and OTT plot for more military funding.
Yesterday's weather forecast for London must have been one of the worst ever. There was supposed to be either no rain or a light shower. Instead, Lords was totally washed out.
I say hooray. I’ve spent the whole day under a duvet in the living room like I would have as a kid when I was ill from school. The side effects from the jab have made me too scared of catching it to go out! More lockdown!
Yesterday's weather forecast for London must have been one of the worst ever. There was supposed to be either no rain or a light shower. Instead, Lords was totally washed out.
It's been blue sky and gloriously sunny up here in the 'grim and dismal' north.
Couldn't believe it when I saw the cricket was a washout.
All the Twitter jokes about "Con (+2)" on the day of Dom's 'revelations' ...
The other funny thing is all the Twitter jokes about if this is a 'twenty point lead' yet: at this rate some time soon there could be a 20 point lead, but if it happens it likely won't be for Sir Keir.
It is somewhat paradoxical that the interesting political news that makes for good discussion amongst politico’s should be almost completely disregarded when thinking how it affects the polls/elections
Especially considering and no disrespect intended I can't think when the last time a thread here by Mike said something (other than actual election results) was good news for Boris or the Tories. Quite frequent for Keir.
Weirdly, Norway is one of the main importers of English wine.
Isn't that all the Skandis, except one. I see to recall 3 from 4.
I guess thinking about it, it makes sense?
Gravity theory suggests our nearest neighbours should be the major importers, but France et al are obviously not going to be importing English wine.
I'm surprised that the domestic wine market doesn't absorb the entirety of English wine production. I'm amazed that we export any at all.
I’m surprised how little there is available in the high street. English Wine really is pretty good.
See above. I suspect price/quality ratio is the issue which in turn is a factor of still low volumes.
But still, for most other product categories you will have food plastered with the union flag. I'd have thought that a degree of patriotic purchasing, plus the novelty value, would create a fair amount of demand for locally-produced wines. Even Lidl, for example, are pretty good at stocking local ranges of beers, so you often have quite different beers stocked in different Lidls around the country.
You’d be surprised how many smart rich Brits are unaware that England now makes superb sparkling wine
I took a good bottle of Nyetimber to a Highgate barbecue recently where everyone was drinking pol roger at least, and they tutted at my choice of wine and then they drank it and said ‘ok, it’s better than the pol roger. Much better’
Quite spenny Nyetimber.
It is. A bottle of the classic cuvee rose is ~£40. About the same as Pol Roger. But it’s better than the French plonk likesay, so VALUE
It's very nice for sure but doesn't beat a bottle of Bolly.
Can't stand Bolly. Overrated. I think it's the name people like. It sounds fun. "A bottle of bolly!"
English Fizz supposedly has this issue to contend with: what to call it. They reckon they need a good name like "champagne" or "prosecco" which somehow captures that element of fun and indulgence and celebration in the actual syllables
I don't know why they don't stick with English Fizz. Sounds fun, frivolous, aspirational, a little big naughty. Perfect
RUBIO on UAP w/ Fox: “People immediately start thinking about extraterrestrials and little green men. We're not at that stage here. What we're saying is there are things that are not ours -- there are things that are not ours flying over military installations we don’t know what they are. They're talking about these things flying around. We just don't know what they are. We need to know what they are.”
I don't like Rubio's politics at all, but as a member of the Gang of Eight he's one of the few people who gets properly briefed about all the crazy stuff the US intelligence community gets up to. I don't see how anyone can blithely dismiss what he says, there are few people in a better position to know what is going on.
That's easy: (3) from Robert's list.
An ominous but hard to pin down here, a knowing phrase there but nothing concrete - now you've got whatever appropriations you want approved.
If the US military want more money they just ask for it, this is a rather elaborate and OTT plot for more military funding.
It's not that elaborate or OTT.
'There may be something here' is as vague, meaningless and non committal as you can possibly get.
But it opens itself up to people projecting on you whatever they want to hear.
RUBIO on UAP w/ Fox: “People immediately start thinking about extraterrestrials and little green men. We're not at that stage here. What we're saying is there are things that are not ours -- there are things that are not ours flying over military installations we don’t know what they are. They're talking about these things flying around. We just don't know what they are. We need to know what they are.”
I don't like Rubio's politics at all, but as a member of the Gang of Eight he's one of the few people who gets properly briefed about all the crazy stuff the US intelligence community gets up to. I don't see how anyone can blithely dismiss what he says, there are few people in a better position to know what is going on.
That's easy: (3) from Robert's list.
An ominous but hard to pin down here, a knowing phrase there but nothing concrete - now you've got whatever appropriations you want approved.
If the US military want more money they just ask for it, this is a rather elaborate and OTT plot for more military funding.
Yes, if it is misinformation and psyops then it must have a much grander job to do than that. The obvious choice is Scare China.
But it still seems highly far-fetched, and elaborate, and admitting to Congress that US military does not command American airspace is a very strange way to spook China
Weirdly, Norway is one of the main importers of English wine.
Isn't that all the Skandis, except one. I see to recall 3 from 4.
I guess thinking about it, it makes sense?
Gravity theory suggests our nearest neighbours should be the major importers, but France et al are obviously not going to be importing English wine.
I'm surprised that the domestic wine market doesn't absorb the entirety of English wine production. I'm amazed that we export any at all.
I’m surprised how little there is available in the high street. English Wine really is pretty good.
See above. I suspect price/quality ratio is the issue which in turn is a factor of still low volumes.
But still, for most other product categories you will have food plastered with the union flag. I'd have thought that a degree of patriotic purchasing, plus the novelty value, would create a fair amount of demand for locally-produced wines. Even Lidl, for example, are pretty good at stocking local ranges of beers, so you often have quite different beers stocked in different Lidls around the country.
You’d be surprised how many smart rich Brits are unaware that England now makes superb sparkling wine
I took a good bottle of Nyetimber to a Highgate barbecue recently where everyone was drinking pol roger at least, and they tutted at my choice of wine and then they drank it and said ‘ok, it’s better than the pol roger. Much better’
Quite spenny Nyetimber.
It is. A bottle of the classic cuvee rose is ~£40. About the same as Pol Roger. But it’s better than the French plonk likesay, so VALUE
It's very nice for sure but doesn't beat a bottle of Bolly.
Can't stand Bolly. Overrated. I think it's the name people like. It sounds fun. "A bottle of bolly!"
English Fizz supposedly has this issue to contend with: what to call it. They reckon they need a good name like "champagne" or "prosecco" which somehow captures that element of fun and indulgence and celebration in the actual syllables
I don't know why they don't stick with English Fizz. Sounds fun, frivolous, aspirational, a little big naughty. Perfect
There must be an English fizz made in Bucks, surely?
Yesterday's weather forecast for London must have been one of the worst ever. There was supposed to be either no rain or a light shower. Instead, Lords was totally washed out.
It's been blue sky and gloriously sunny up here in the 'grim and dismal' north.
Couldn't believe it when I saw the cricket was a washout.
Not much clarity in those figures - though the YouGov house effect becomes ever more striking. In a GE I would expect to see at least 60% of the Green vote recorded there to switch to Labour - bringing the latter's vote share to circa 35%. This poll also seems to have the Tories a bit high with the LDs probably too low here. As always Survation polls are UK - rather than GB - based, so the the equivalent GB figures would be Con 42% Lab 34%.
Weirdly, Norway is one of the main importers of English wine.
Isn't that all the Skandis, except one. I see to recall 3 from 4.
I guess thinking about it, it makes sense?
Gravity theory suggests our nearest neighbours should be the major importers, but France et al are obviously not going to be importing English wine.
I'm surprised that the domestic wine market doesn't absorb the entirety of English wine production. I'm amazed that we export any at all.
I’m surprised how little there is available in the high street. English Wine really is pretty good.
See above. I suspect price/quality ratio is the issue which in turn is a factor of still low volumes.
But still, for most other product categories you will have food plastered with the union flag. I'd have thought that a degree of patriotic purchasing, plus the novelty value, would create a fair amount of demand for locally-produced wines. Even Lidl, for example, are pretty good at stocking local ranges of beers, so you often have quite different beers stocked in different Lidls around the country.
You’d be surprised how many smart rich Brits are unaware that England now makes superb sparkling wine
I took a good bottle of Nyetimber to a Highgate barbecue recently where everyone was drinking pol roger at least, and they tutted at my choice of wine and then they drank it and said ‘ok, it’s better than the pol roger. Much better’
Quite spenny Nyetimber.
It is. A bottle of the classic cuvee rose is ~£40. About the same as Pol Roger. But it’s better than the French plonk likesay, so VALUE
It's very nice for sure but doesn't beat a bottle of Bolly.
Can't stand Bolly. Overrated. I think it's the name people like. It sounds fun. "A bottle of bolly!"
English Fizz supposedly has this issue to contend with: what to call it. They reckon they need a good name like "champagne" or "prosecco" which somehow captures that element of fun and indulgence and celebration in the actual syllables
I don't know why they don't stick with English Fizz. Sounds fun, frivolous, aspirational, a little big naughty. Perfect
There must be an English fizz made in Bucks, surely?
If they want a different name, they need to be making their mind up about it.
Average of the last 10 polls is almost identical to the general election for the two main parties. Main difference is a 3-4% swing from LD to Green.
Con 43.3% Lab 32.5% LD 8.1% Green 6.2%
Funny how it is described as a vaccine bounce, despite being the same as the last election result before Covid
Maybe there was a virus slump? This has all the feel of 1997-2001. Nowt either side does changes the picture much as enough folk have decided early to re-elect?
Edit: The virus playing the role of a much longer and more serious fuel protest.
Average of the last 10 polls is almost identical to the general election for the two main parties. Main difference is a 3-4% swing from LD to Green.
Con 43.3% Lab 32.5% LD 8.1% Green 6.2%
Funny how it is described as a vaccine bounce, despite being the same as the last election result before Covid
Maybe there was a virus slump? This has all the feel of 1997-2001. Nowt either side does changes the picture much as enough folk have decided early to re-elect?
I always thought the ‘vaccine bounce’ was just correcting the ‘virus slump’. I think EVS about Con Maj is a good bet
Weirdly, Norway is one of the main importers of English wine.
Isn't that all the Skandis, except one. I see to recall 3 from 4.
I guess thinking about it, it makes sense?
Gravity theory suggests our nearest neighbours should be the major importers, but France et al are obviously not going to be importing English wine.
I'm surprised that the domestic wine market doesn't absorb the entirety of English wine production. I'm amazed that we export any at all.
I’m surprised how little there is available in the high street. English Wine really is pretty good.
See above. I suspect price/quality ratio is the issue which in turn is a factor of still low volumes.
But still, for most other product categories you will have food plastered with the union flag. I'd have thought that a degree of patriotic purchasing, plus the novelty value, would create a fair amount of demand for locally-produced wines. Even Lidl, for example, are pretty good at stocking local ranges of beers, so you often have quite different beers stocked in different Lidls around the country.
You’d be surprised how many smart rich Brits are unaware that England now makes superb sparkling wine
I took a good bottle of Nyetimber to a Highgate barbecue recently where everyone was drinking pol roger at least, and they tutted at my choice of wine and then they drank it and said ‘ok, it’s better than the pol roger. Much better’
Quite spenny Nyetimber.
It is. A bottle of the classic cuvee rose is ~£40. About the same as Pol Roger. But it’s better than the French plonk likesay, so VALUE
It's very nice for sure but doesn't beat a bottle of Bolly.
Can't stand Bolly. Overrated. I think it's the name people like. It sounds fun. "A bottle of bolly!"
English Fizz supposedly has this issue to contend with: what to call it. They reckon they need a good name like "champagne" or "prosecco" which somehow captures that element of fun and indulgence and celebration in the actual syllables
I don't know why they don't stick with English Fizz. Sounds fun, frivolous, aspirational, a little big naughty. Perfect
There must be an English fizz made in Bucks, surely?
If they want a different name, they need to be making their mind up about it.
Personally think the NYC Mayoral Democratic Primary is gonna come down (in the final count) to Yang OR Adams.
Yang was front-runner until pretty recently, but now Adams is more-or-less (depending on which poll) neck-and-neck. Of the rest of the field, Garcia and Wiley look to have the best shot to make the final cut (at expense of either Adams or Yang) but it's pretty long.
Polls also suggest that Adams is getting more second-choice support than Yang, which is important because of this is a Ranked Choice primary, with voters given up to 5 choices. Had thought that Yang would be a natural to soak up 2nd-choice support, but if that is NOT the case, then an advantage for Adams.
Yesterday's weather forecast for London must have been one of the worst ever. There was supposed to be either no rain or a light shower. Instead, Lords was totally washed out.
I say hooray. I’ve spent the whole day under a duvet in the living room like I would have as a kid when I was ill from school. The side effects from the jab have made me too scared of catching it to go out! More lockdown!
Ah, you got the one with the Indie Sage microchip.
We’re still waiting to see how effective that will be, but at the moment it’s estimated to be 75% effective at making people shitscared of unlocking after one dose.
Yesterday's weather forecast for London must have been one of the worst ever. There was supposed to be either no rain or a light shower. Instead, Lords was totally washed out.
It's been blue sky and gloriously sunny up here in the 'grim and dismal' north.
Couldn't believe it when I saw the cricket was a washout.
It's been a lovely day here in Dorset, must have just been the south east that had crap weather.
Average of the last 10 polls is almost identical to the general election for the two main parties. Main difference is a 3-4% swing from LD to Green.
Con 43.3% Lab 32.5% LD 8.1% Green 6.2%
Funny how it is described as a vaccine bounce, despite being the same as the last election result before Covid
Maybe there was a virus slump? This has all the feel of 1997-2001. Nowt either side does changes the picture much as enough folk have decided early to re-elect?
I always thought the ‘vaccine bounce’ was just correcting the ‘virus slump’. I think EVS about Con Maj is a good bet
Anything better than 1/2, if you don't mind tying up your cash for 3 years possibly.
Yesterday's weather forecast for London must have been one of the worst ever. There was supposed to be either no rain or a light shower. Instead, Lords was totally washed out.
They should have played the match at Headingley. It has been glorious all day in West Yorkshire.
Yesterday's weather forecast for London must have been one of the worst ever. There was supposed to be either no rain or a light shower. Instead, Lords was totally washed out.
It's been blue sky and gloriously sunny up here in the 'grim and dismal' north.
Couldn't believe it when I saw the cricket was a washout.
9th consecutive day up here. Nary a cloud.
Were you previously troubled by non-consecutive days?
Yesterday's weather forecast for London must have been one of the worst ever. There was supposed to be either no rain or a light shower. Instead, Lords was totally washed out.
It's been blue sky and gloriously sunny up here in the 'grim and dismal' north.
Couldn't believe it when I saw the cricket was a washout.
9th consecutive day up here. Nary a cloud.
Were you previously troubled by non-consecutive days?
Average of the last 10 polls is almost identical to the general election for the two main parties. Main difference is a 3-4% swing from LD to Green.
Con 43.3% Lab 32.5% LD 8.1% Green 6.2%
Funny how it is described as a vaccine bounce, despite being the same as the last election result before Covid
Maybe there was a virus slump? This has all the feel of 1997-2001. Nowt either side does changes the picture much as enough folk have decided early to re-elect?
I always thought the ‘vaccine bounce’ was just correcting the ‘virus slump’. I think EVS about Con Maj is a good bet
Initially there was actually a huge 'virus bounce' in March/April 2020 which gradually dissipated from May onwards to the extent that we were seeing Labour leads by last Autumn. The more recent 'vaccine bounce' has restored the Government's fortunes , but not even YouGov has shown a return to the stratospheric Tory leads of Spring last year.
Yesterday's weather forecast for London must have been one of the worst ever. There was supposed to be either no rain or a light shower. Instead, Lords was totally washed out.
It's been blue sky and gloriously sunny up here in the 'grim and dismal' north.
Couldn't believe it when I saw the cricket was a washout.
9th consecutive day up here. Nary a cloud.
Were you previously troubled by non-consecutive days?
Yesterday's weather forecast for London must have been one of the worst ever. There was supposed to be either no rain or a light shower. Instead, Lords was totally washed out.
Weather forecasting does seem to have become less reliable recently. Whether that's because the Met Office needs a new supercomputer or because the BBC and other media use smaller forecasters...
Yesterday's weather forecast for London must have been one of the worst ever. There was supposed to be either no rain or a light shower. Instead, Lords was totally washed out.
Weather forecasting does seem to have become less reliable recently. Whether that's because the Met Office needs a new supercomputer or because the BBC and other media use smaller forecasters...
Is this anecdotal, or are there studies to back this up?
Yesterday's weather forecast for London must have been one of the worst ever. There was supposed to be either no rain or a light shower. Instead, Lords was totally washed out.
I say hooray. I’ve spent the whole day under a duvet in the living room like I would have as a kid when I was ill from school. The side effects from the jab have made me too scared of catching it to go out! More lockdown!
Side effects from a jab? They can't have been that bad. You've been posting on here the whole time.
The UFO industry is THE true Perpetual Motion machine.
Because 99.46% of earthlings believe that there indeed IS something out there in outer space.
Who are the arrogant and thick 0.54%?
Those that realise just how big space is and how long it takes to cross those distances?
As well as the number of felescopes trained on, and watching, the Sky that would see something coming here and why would, or how could aliens light years away spot this planet and decide to come here.
Possibly these are time travellers from our future 🤔
Yesterday's weather forecast for London must have been one of the worst ever. There was supposed to be either no rain or a light shower. Instead, Lords was totally washed out.
I say hooray. I’ve spent the whole day under a duvet in the living room like I would have as a kid when I was ill from school. The side effects from the jab have made me too scared of catching it to go out! More lockdown!
Side effects from a jab? They can't have been that bad. You've been posting on here the whole time.
For context, isam said that to me April 2020 when I thought I / my wife was a goner with Covid and was somewhat upset on pb. All because I questioned his guru, Peter Hitchens, the Covid denier.
Yesterday's weather forecast for London must have been one of the worst ever. There was supposed to be either no rain or a light shower. Instead, Lords was totally washed out.
I say hooray. I’ve spent the whole day under a duvet in the living room like I would have as a kid when I was ill from school. The side effects from the jab have made me too scared of catching it to go out! More lockdown!
Side effects from a jab? They can't have been that bad. You've been posting on here the whole time.
Haha. Not so bad today, but in the middle of last night, when I wasn’t posting, they were horrendous.
Yesterday's weather forecast for London must have been one of the worst ever. There was supposed to be either no rain or a light shower. Instead, Lords was totally washed out.
I say hooray. I’ve spent the whole day under a duvet in the living room like I would have as a kid when I was ill from school. The side effects from the jab have made me too scared of catching it to go out! More lockdown!
Side effects from a jab? They can't have been that bad. You've been posting on here the whole time.
For context, isam said that to me April 2020 when I thought I / my wife was a goner with Covid and was somewhat upset on pb. All because I questioned his guru, Peter Hitchens, the Covid denier.
I just thought people who reckoned they and their wife were dying in agony from a mystery illness would have better things to do than argue pedantically at length on here about this that and the other, but it takes all sorts
Checking, Laithwaites have about 10 UK wines in their range, at about £25.
Which would actually fit with a bottle or two in my quarterly order. At the top end. Tempting.
I just looked again. Total wine production is shy of 100,000 hectolitres. Apparently we export 8% of that.
Which is about 10,000 bottles. Edit; I am out by a factor of 10. 100,000 bottles.
Incredibly niche product.
Something there does not look consistent. I think you are assuming that a bottle is a Hectolitre - which sounds like fun ! Hecto is x100.
100k hectolitres is 100k*100/0.75, which is 13 million bottles.
So 8% would be 1 million bottles.
Total production volume is about 0.25% of French, so yes - niche :-) .
Double double checked. Here, with authority of WineGB.
Total production, 2019 - 10.5m bottles Total sales, 2019 - 5.5m bottles Total exports, 2019 - 550k bottles.
Top export country - Norway @ 20%
Top producing region - the SE (Kent, Sussex, Surrey) @ 61.5% of total volume.
Figures were up steeply on 2018 so, yes it seems like it was having a boom before Covid.
Chapel Downs this morning issued a funding round to boost volumes to 500,000 themselves.
I allege that 500k is closer to 1m than it is to 8k , and consider myself vindicated to within the cost tolerances on every Government project ie double or half.
Yesterday's weather forecast for London must have been one of the worst ever. There was supposed to be either no rain or a light shower. Instead, Lords was totally washed out.
I say hooray. I’ve spent the whole day under a duvet in the living room like I would have as a kid when I was ill from school. The side effects from the jab have made me too scared of catching it to go out! More lockdown!
Side effects from a jab? They can't have been that bad. You've been posting on here the whole time.
For context, isam said that to me April 2020 when I thought I / my wife was a goner with Covid and was somewhat upset on pb. All because I questioned his guru, Peter Hitchens, the Covid denier.
I just thought people who reckoned they and their wife were dying in agony from a mystery illness would have better things to do than argue pedantically at length on here about this that and the other, but it takes all sorts
Haha. Keep thinking you're right on everything. Cretin.
Yesterday's weather forecast for London must have been one of the worst ever. There was supposed to be either no rain or a light shower. Instead, Lords was totally washed out.
I say hooray. I’ve spent the whole day under a duvet in the living room like I would have as a kid when I was ill from school. The side effects from the jab have made me too scared of catching it to go out! More lockdown!
Side effects from a jab? They can't have been that bad. You've been posting on here the whole time.
For context, isam said that to me April 2020 when I thought I / my wife was a goner with Covid and was somewhat upset on pb. All because I questioned his guru, Peter Hitchens, the Covid denier.
I just thought people who reckoned they and their wife were dying in agony from a mystery illness would have better things to do than argue pedantically at length on here about this that and the other, but it takes all sorts
Haha. Keep thinking you're right on everything. Cretin.
Yesterday's weather forecast for London must have been one of the worst ever. There was supposed to be either no rain or a light shower. Instead, Lords was totally washed out.
I say hooray. I’ve spent the whole day under a duvet in the living room like I would have as a kid when I was ill from school. The side effects from the jab have made me too scared of catching it to go out! More lockdown!
Side effects from a jab? They can't have been that bad. You've been posting on here the whole time.
For context, isam said that to me April 2020 when I thought I / my wife was a goner with Covid and was somewhat upset on pb. All because I questioned his guru, Peter Hitchens, the Covid denier.
I just thought people who reckoned they and their wife were dying in agony from a mystery illness would have better things to do than argue pedantically at length on here about this that and the other, but it takes all sorts
Haha. Keep thinking you're right on everything. Cretin.
Righto 👍🏻
Do you have no remorse then? Do you think Covid is still a bit of a hoax?
Checking, Laithwaites have about 10 UK wines in their range, at about £25.
Which would actually fit with a bottle or two in my quarterly order. At the top end. Tempting.
I just looked again. Total wine production is shy of 100,000 hectolitres. Apparently we export 8% of that.
Which is about 10,000 bottles. Edit; I am out by a factor of 10. 100,000 bottles.
Incredibly niche product.
Something there does not look consistent. I think you are assuming that a bottle is a Hectolitre - which sounds like fun ! Hecto is x100.
100k hectolitres is 100k*100/0.75, which is 13 million bottles.
So 8% would be 1 million bottles.
Total production volume is about 0.25% of French, so yes - niche :-) .
Double double checked. Here, with authority of WineGB.
Total production, 2019 - 10.5m bottles Total sales, 2019 - 5.5m bottles Total exports, 2019 - 550k bottles.
Top export country - Norway @ 20%
Top producing region - the SE (Kent, Sussex, Surrey) @ 61.5% of total volume.
Figures were up steeply on 2018 so, yes it seems like it was having a boom before Covid.
Chapel Downs this morning issued a funding round to boost volumes to 500,000 themselves.
There's a continuing boom in planting of English vineyards, and this is going to feed in to very large increases for the foreseeable future because there is already major latent growth in the system. The first crop comes in year 3 after planting, still wine hits the market in year 4 and sparkling, depending on how long kept sur latte, is out from year 5 to potentially up to year 10 and beyond the the prestige cuvees.
I bought a slope in Kent last year and am planting just under 7,000 vines next spring, for blanc de noirs and a bit of still white. I expect to take a first crop in 2024, start selling the still in 2026 and the sparkling as late as possible - at least 2028 but probably later. I am pretty small and won't make a dent in the production numbers but in the hills around my vineyard are big unmarked plantings by Nyetimber as well as the ever expanding plantings of Domaine Evremond (Taittinger), Simpsons, Westwell etc. Closer to London Mark Dixon (he of Regus offices) has embarked on plantings of unprecedented scale, something like 1,000ha South of Gravesend covering both slopes of an entire valley, with more to come.
Someone mentioned red wine for £8 a bottle further down. I agree that's not really a thing yet - the good still reds are rare and very expensive, generally north of £30, but I did pick up a bottle of Pinot Noir at Clayhill vineyard in Essex (who supply Chapel Down amongst others) for £8.50 last weekend.
Yesterday's weather forecast for London must have been one of the worst ever. There was supposed to be either no rain or a light shower. Instead, Lords was totally washed out.
I say hooray. I’ve spent the whole day under a duvet in the living room like I would have as a kid when I was ill from school. The side effects from the jab have made me too scared of catching it to go out! More lockdown!
Side effects from a jab? They can't have been that bad. You've been posting on here the whole time.
For context, isam said that to me April 2020 when I thought I / my wife was a goner with Covid and was somewhat upset on pb. All because I questioned his guru, Peter Hitchens, the Covid denier.
I just thought people who reckoned they and their wife were dying in agony from a mystery illness would have better things to do than argue pedantically at length on here about this that and the other, but it takes all sorts
Haha. Keep thinking you're right on everything. Cretin.
Righto 👍🏻
Do you have no remorse then? Do you think Covid is still a bit of a hoax?
Yesterday's weather forecast for London must have been one of the worst ever. There was supposed to be either no rain or a light shower. Instead, Lords was totally washed out.
Weather forecasting does seem to have become less reliable recently. Whether that's because the Met Office needs a new supercomputer or because the BBC and other media use smaller forecasters...
Is this anecdotal, or are there studies to back this up?
It is anecdotal. There are studies but I've not looked at them.
Yesterday's weather forecast for London must have been one of the worst ever. There was supposed to be either no rain or a light shower. Instead, Lords was totally washed out.
I say hooray. I’ve spent the whole day under a duvet in the living room like I would have as a kid when I was ill from school. The side effects from the jab have made me too scared of catching it to go out! More lockdown!
Side effects from a jab? They can't have been that bad. You've been posting on here the whole time.
For context, isam said that to me April 2020 when I thought I / my wife was a goner with Covid and was somewhat upset on pb. All because I questioned his guru, Peter Hitchens, the Covid denier.
I just thought people who reckoned they and their wife were dying in agony from a mystery illness would have better things to do than argue pedantically at length on here about this that and the other, but it takes all sorts
Haha. Keep thinking you're right on everything. Cretin.
Righto 👍🏻
Do you have no remorse then? Do you think Covid is still a bit of a hoax?
I never once said it was
Ok great. Do you still think it was all a bit over egged? The response was a bit over the top?
And the remorse. Do you still believe I was lying when I was documenting my long Covid before it was even a thing?
Yesterday's weather forecast for London must have been one of the worst ever. There was supposed to be either no rain or a light shower. Instead, Lords was totally washed out.
I say hooray. I’ve spent the whole day under a duvet in the living room like I would have as a kid when I was ill from school. The side effects from the jab have made me too scared of catching it to go out! More lockdown!
Side effects from a jab? They can't have been that bad. You've been posting on here the whole time.
For context, isam said that to me April 2020 when I thought I / my wife was a goner with Covid and was somewhat upset on pb. All because I questioned his guru, Peter Hitchens, the Covid denier.
I just thought people who reckoned they and their wife were dying in agony from a mystery illness would have better things to do than argue pedantically at length on here about this that and the other, but it takes all sorts
Haha. Keep thinking you're right on everything. Cretin.
Righto 👍🏻
Do you have no remorse then? Do you think Covid is still a bit of a hoax?
I never once said it was
Ok great. Do you still think it was all a bit over egged? The response was a bit over the top?
And the remorse. Do you still believe I was lying when I was documenting my long Covid before it was even a thing?
Do I this, do I that. I still think you’re annoying and this will probably end with me saying something to wind you up
Weirdly, Norway is one of the main importers of English wine.
Isn't that all the Skandis, except one. I see to recall 3 from 4.
I guess thinking about it, it makes sense?
Gravity theory suggests our nearest neighbours should be the major importers, but France et al are obviously not going to be importing English wine.
I'm surprised that the domestic wine market doesn't absorb the entirety of English wine production. I'm amazed that we export any at all.
I’m surprised how little there is available in the high street. English Wine really is pretty good.
See above. I suspect price/quality ratio is the issue which in turn is a factor of still low volumes.
But still, for most other product categories you will have food plastered with the union flag. I'd have thought that a degree of patriotic purchasing, plus the novelty value, would create a fair amount of demand for locally-produced wines. Even Lidl, for example, are pretty good at stocking local ranges of beers, so you often have quite different beers stocked in different Lidls around the country.
You’d be surprised how many smart rich Brits are unaware that England now makes superb sparkling wine
I took a good bottle of Nyetimber to a Highgate barbecue recently where everyone was drinking pol roger at least, and they tutted at my choice of wine and then they drank it and said ‘ok, it’s better than the pol roger. Much better’
Quite spenny Nyetimber.
It is. A bottle of the classic cuvee rose is ~£40. About the same as Pol Roger. But it’s better than the French plonk likesay, so VALUE
It's very nice for sure but doesn't beat a bottle of Bolly.
Actually, I think the very best English sparkling wine is better than anything choosing less than about £200 that's French or American.
I'm not such a fan of the still wine, which is a bit overpriced but I have no doubt it will continue to improve.
Yesterday's weather forecast for London must have been one of the worst ever. There was supposed to be either no rain or a light shower. Instead, Lords was totally washed out.
I say hooray. I’ve spent the whole day under a duvet in the living room like I would have as a kid when I was ill from school. The side effects from the jab have made me too scared of catching it to go out! More lockdown!
Side effects from a jab? They can't have been that bad. You've been posting on here the whole time.
For context, isam said that to me April 2020 when I thought I / my wife was a goner with Covid and was somewhat upset on pb. All because I questioned his guru, Peter Hitchens, the Covid denier.
I just thought people who reckoned they and their wife were dying in agony from a mystery illness would have better things to do than argue pedantically at length on here about this that and the other, but it takes all sorts
Haha. Keep thinking you're right on everything. Cretin.
Righto 👍🏻
Do you have no remorse then? Do you think Covid is still a bit of a hoax?
I never once said it was
Ok great. Do you still think it was all a bit over egged? The response was a bit over the top?
And the remorse. Do you still believe I was lying when I was documenting my long Covid before it was even a thing?
Do I this, do I that. I still think you’re annoying and this will probably end with me saying something to wind you up
Bravo. You really did wind me up when I was struggling desperately with Covid. Congrats.
Well you can sleep soundly now you have your Covid vaccine.
I'm glad you make all the big calls right, Keir Starmer is crap, Peter Hitchens is right about everything, including Covid.
What a thoroughly unpleasant individual you are. Night night.
Weirdly, Norway is one of the main importers of English wine.
Isn't that all the Skandis, except one. I see to recall 3 from 4.
I guess thinking about it, it makes sense?
Gravity theory suggests our nearest neighbours should be the major importers, but France et al are obviously not going to be importing English wine.
I'm surprised that the domestic wine market doesn't absorb the entirety of English wine production. I'm amazed that we export any at all.
I’m surprised how little there is available in the high street. English Wine really is pretty good.
See above. I suspect price/quality ratio is the issue which in turn is a factor of still low volumes.
But still, for most other product categories you will have food plastered with the union flag. I'd have thought that a degree of patriotic purchasing, plus the novelty value, would create a fair amount of demand for locally-produced wines. Even Lidl, for example, are pretty good at stocking local ranges of beers, so you often have quite different beers stocked in different Lidls around the country.
You’d be surprised how many smart rich Brits are unaware that England now makes superb sparkling wine
I took a good bottle of Nyetimber to a Highgate barbecue recently where everyone was drinking pol roger at least, and they tutted at my choice of wine and then they drank it and said ‘ok, it’s better than the pol roger. Much better’
Quite spenny Nyetimber.
It is. A bottle of the classic cuvee rose is ~£40. About the same as Pol Roger. But it’s better than the French plonk likesay, so VALUE
It's very nice for sure but doesn't beat a bottle of Bolly.
Actually, I think the very best English sparkling wine is better than anything choosing less than about £200 that's French or American.
I'm not such a fan of the still wine, which is a bit overpriced but I have no doubt it will continue to improve.
Weirdly, Norway is one of the main importers of English wine.
Isn't that all the Skandis, except one. I see to recall 3 from 4.
I guess thinking about it, it makes sense?
Gravity theory suggests our nearest neighbours should be the major importers, but France et al are obviously not going to be importing English wine.
I'm surprised that the domestic wine market doesn't absorb the entirety of English wine production. I'm amazed that we export any at all.
I’m surprised how little there is available in the high street. English Wine really is pretty good.
See above. I suspect price/quality ratio is the issue which in turn is a factor of still low volumes.
But still, for most other product categories you will have food plastered with the union flag. I'd have thought that a degree of patriotic purchasing, plus the novelty value, would create a fair amount of demand for locally-produced wines. Even Lidl, for example, are pretty good at stocking local ranges of beers, so you often have quite different beers stocked in different Lidls around the country.
You’d be surprised how many smart rich Brits are unaware that England now makes superb sparkling wine
I took a good bottle of Nyetimber to a Highgate barbecue recently where everyone was drinking pol roger at least, and they tutted at my choice of wine and then they drank it and said ‘ok, it’s better than the pol roger. Much better’
Quite spenny Nyetimber.
It is. A bottle of the classic cuvee rose is ~£40. About the same as Pol Roger. But it’s better than the French plonk likesay, so VALUE
It's very nice for sure but doesn't beat a bottle of Bolly.
Can't stand Bolly. Overrated. I think it's the name people like. It sounds fun. "A bottle of bolly!"
English Fizz supposedly has this issue to contend with: what to call it. They reckon they need a good name like "champagne" or "prosecco" which somehow captures that element of fun and indulgence and celebration in the actual syllables
I don't know why they don't stick with English Fizz. Sounds fun, frivolous, aspirational, a little big naughty. Perfect
There must be an English fizz made in Bucks, surely?
If they want a different name, they need to be making their mind up about it.
It doesn't need a different name. Much time has been wasted by people desperate for some new catchy generic name and all have failed because they are gimmicks. It is English Sparkling Wine. That's what the wine trade calls it, that's what the bottles say and it's a perfectly reasonable name. Some refer to English Fizz, which is also fine as a nickname in the same was as bubbly (or "bulles") is for Champagne. Anything else looks contrived.
In due course there will be regional appellations but the scale and differentiation just isn't there yet.
Yesterday's weather forecast for London must have been one of the worst ever. There was supposed to be either no rain or a light shower. Instead, Lords was totally washed out.
I say hooray. I’ve spent the whole day under a duvet in the living room like I would have as a kid when I was ill from school. The side effects from the jab have made me too scared of catching it to go out! More lockdown!
Side effects from a jab? They can't have been that bad. You've been posting on here the whole time.
For context, isam said that to me April 2020 when I thought I / my wife was a goner with Covid and was somewhat upset on pb. All because I questioned his guru, Peter Hitchens, the Covid denier.
I just thought people who reckoned they and their wife were dying in agony from a mystery illness would have better things to do than argue pedantically at length on here about this that and the other, but it takes all sorts
Haha. Keep thinking you're right on everything. Cretin.
Righto 👍🏻
Do you have no remorse then? Do you think Covid is still a bit of a hoax?
I never once said it was
But you massively underestimated it well past the point where it was clear it was the real deal.
Yesterday's weather forecast for London must have been one of the worst ever. There was supposed to be either no rain or a light shower. Instead, Lords was totally washed out.
I say hooray. I’ve spent the whole day under a duvet in the living room like I would have as a kid when I was ill from school. The side effects from the jab have made me too scared of catching it to go out! More lockdown!
Side effects from a jab? They can't have been that bad. You've been posting on here the whole time.
For context, isam said that to me April 2020 when I thought I / my wife was a goner with Covid and was somewhat upset on pb. All because I questioned his guru, Peter Hitchens, the Covid denier.
I just thought people who reckoned they and their wife were dying in agony from a mystery illness would have better things to do than argue pedantically at length on here about this that and the other, but it takes all sorts
Haha. Keep thinking you're right on everything. Cretin.
Righto 👍🏻
Do you have no remorse then? Do you think Covid is still a bit of a hoax?
I never once said it was
Ok great. Do you still think it was all a bit over egged? The response was a bit over the top?
And the remorse. Do you still believe I was lying when I was documenting my long Covid before it was even a thing?
Do I this, do I that. I still think you’re annoying and this will probably end with me saying something to wind you up
Bravo. You really did wind me up when I was struggling desperately with Covid. Congrats.
Well you can sleep soundly now you have your Covid vaccine.
I'm glad you make all the big calls right, Keir Starmer is crap, Peter Hitchens is right about everything, including Covid.
What a thoroughly unpleasant individual you are. Night night.
Weirdly, Norway is one of the main importers of English wine.
Isn't that all the Skandis, except one. I see to recall 3 from 4.
I guess thinking about it, it makes sense?
Gravity theory suggests our nearest neighbours should be the major importers, but France et al are obviously not going to be importing English wine.
I'm surprised that the domestic wine market doesn't absorb the entirety of English wine production. I'm amazed that we export any at all.
I’m surprised how little there is available in the high street. English Wine really is pretty good.
See above. I suspect price/quality ratio is the issue which in turn is a factor of still low volumes.
But still, for most other product categories you will have food plastered with the union flag. I'd have thought that a degree of patriotic purchasing, plus the novelty value, would create a fair amount of demand for locally-produced wines. Even Lidl, for example, are pretty good at stocking local ranges of beers, so you often have quite different beers stocked in different Lidls around the country.
You’d be surprised how many smart rich Brits are unaware that England now makes superb sparkling wine
I took a good bottle of Nyetimber to a Highgate barbecue recently where everyone was drinking pol roger at least, and they tutted at my choice of wine and then they drank it and said ‘ok, it’s better than the pol roger. Much better’
Quite spenny Nyetimber.
It is. A bottle of the classic cuvee rose is ~£40. About the same as Pol Roger. But it’s better than the French plonk likesay, so VALUE
It's very nice for sure but doesn't beat a bottle of Bolly.
Actually, I think the very best English sparkling wine is better than anything choosing less than about £200 that's French or American.
I'm not such a fan of the still wine, which is a bit overpriced but I have no doubt it will continue to improve.
Yes, I agree, You have to go to insane price levels to get better sparkling wine than English Fizz, from major countries like France, Italy, Oz
I am actually drinking a Nyetimber Rose now, celebrating the finishing of a really hard dildo.
It's sensational stuff for £40 (the wine, not the dildo, you don't get a hand crafted Leon Dildo for less than £500, sorry, and I know you keep asking)
Weirdly, Norway is one of the main importers of English wine.
Isn't that all the Skandis, except one. I see to recall 3 from 4.
I guess thinking about it, it makes sense?
Gravity theory suggests our nearest neighbours should be the major importers, but France et al are obviously not going to be importing English wine.
I'm surprised that the domestic wine market doesn't absorb the entirety of English wine production. I'm amazed that we export any at all.
I’m surprised how little there is available in the high street. English Wine really is pretty good.
See above. I suspect price/quality ratio is the issue which in turn is a factor of still low volumes.
But still, for most other product categories you will have food plastered with the union flag. I'd have thought that a degree of patriotic purchasing, plus the novelty value, would create a fair amount of demand for locally-produced wines. Even Lidl, for example, are pretty good at stocking local ranges of beers, so you often have quite different beers stocked in different Lidls around the country.
You’d be surprised how many smart rich Brits are unaware that England now makes superb sparkling wine
I took a good bottle of Nyetimber to a Highgate barbecue recently where everyone was drinking pol roger at least, and they tutted at my choice of wine and then they drank it and said ‘ok, it’s better than the pol roger. Much better’
Quite spenny Nyetimber.
It is. A bottle of the classic cuvee rose is ~£40. About the same as Pol Roger. But it’s better than the French plonk likesay, so VALUE
It's very nice for sure but doesn't beat a bottle of Bolly.
Actually, I think the very best English sparkling wine is better than anything choosing less than about £200 that's French or American.
I'm not such a fan of the still wine, which is a bit overpriced but I have no doubt it will continue to improve.
The still wine continues to have a bit of an identity crisis, which doesn't help, but the biggest obstacle is the climate and that is changing noticeably each decade.
One problem with sparkling has been a lack of refinement - a lot of very bright, fruit-forward examples but until recently most were single vintage and released early because the winemakers didn't have the scale or deep pockets to build up reserve wines and multi-vintage blends, or to keep wines on lees for more than a year or so. That is now changing led by the bigger makers and some of the less financially pressed smaller producers.
The UFO industry is THE true Perpetual Motion machine.
Because 99.46% of earthlings believe that there indeed IS something out there in outer space.
Who are the arrogant and thick 0.54%?
Those that realise just how big space is and how long it takes to cross those distances?
As well as the number of felescopes trained on, and watching, the Sky that would see something coming here and why would, or how could aliens light years away spot this planet and decide to come here.
Possibly these are time travellers from our future 🤔
Best still English wines: Chapel Down Kits Coty Chardonnay, Oxney Organic Chardonnay, Danbury Ridge Pinot Noir, Bolney Pinot Noir, Simpsons white Pinot Meunier and their Roman Road Chardonnay, Stopham Pinot Gris, Heppington Pinot Gris. Hush Heath still red Meunier is supposed to be impressive but I've never tried it (and it's £50). Not a fan of Bacchus personally but some love it.
Yesterday's weather forecast for London must have been one of the worst ever. There was supposed to be either no rain or a light shower. Instead, Lords was totally washed out.
I say hooray. I’ve spent the whole day under a duvet in the living room like I would have as a kid when I was ill from school. The side effects from the jab have made me too scared of catching it to go out! More lockdown!
Side effects from a jab? They can't have been that bad. You've been posting on here the whole time.
For context, isam said that to me April 2020 when I thought I / my wife was a goner with Covid and was somewhat upset on pb. All because I questioned his guru, Peter Hitchens, the Covid denier.
I just thought people who reckoned they and their wife were dying in agony from a mystery illness would have better things to do than argue pedantically at length on here about this that and the other, but it takes all sorts
Haha. Keep thinking you're right on everything. Cretin.
Righto 👍🏻
Do you have no remorse then? Do you think Covid is still a bit of a hoax?
I never once said it was
But you massively underestimated it well past the point where it was clear it was the real deal.
There were a lot of reports that turned out to be too far fetched and others that underplayed it. I was more on the side of the latter because it seemed so unbelievable, and also because most people I dislike on here were on the other side I guess. But I didn’t say it was a hoax, and took precautions not to catch it. I just didn’t not see my parents from 20 ft away in the open air, or start sanitising the post when it came through the door.
Some super dodgy secret donations from companies that don't exist....no its the electoral commission screw up.
If you check your link, there is indeed an EC error but then:- Additionally, the commission said the Conservatives had advised them the party had "inaccurately reported" donations from another company. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-57365728
Revered scientific journal The Lancet has created a ‘task force’ to investigate the origins of the coronavirus that caused a global pandemic. Finally we will get the truth. Lab leak, bioweapon, angry bat at a stall?
The Lancet is on the case, with a massive new "task force"
And who have they appointed as the head of this brilliant, incisive, utterly neutral "task force"?
Peter Daszak, who funded the gain of function viral research at Wuhan, and who lied about his links to it in his letter to, er, the Lancet, and who has been lying ever since.
I kid you not. Do they not do self awareness at THE LANCET?
This is like President Nixon, about six months into the worst of Watergate, appointing Sitting President of the USA, President Nixon, to finally listen to the White House tapes.
NASA administrator confirms he has been directly briefed on UAP by the Navy pilots in question and appears to publicly rule out optical effects as an explanation. Confirms he has instructed NASA scientists to investigate independently of the Pentagon.
Checking, Laithwaites have about 10 UK wines in their range, at about £25.
Which would actually fit with a bottle or two in my quarterly order. At the top end. Tempting.
I just looked again. Total wine production is shy of 100,000 hectolitres. Apparently we export 8% of that.
Which is about 10,000 bottles. Edit; I am out by a factor of 10. 100,000 bottles.
Incredibly niche product.
Something there does not look consistent. I think you are assuming that a bottle is a Hectolitre - which sounds like fun ! Hecto is x100.
100k hectolitres is 100k*100/0.75, which is 13 million bottles.
So 8% would be 1 million bottles.
Total production volume is about 0.25% of French, so yes - niche :-) .
Double double checked. Here, with authority of WineGB.
Total production, 2019 - 10.5m bottles Total sales, 2019 - 5.5m bottles Total exports, 2019 - 550k bottles.
Top export country - Norway @ 20%
Top producing region - the SE (Kent, Sussex, Surrey) @ 61.5% of total volume.
Figures were up steeply on 2018 so, yes it seems like it was having a boom before Covid.
Chapel Downs this morning issued a funding round to boost volumes to 500,000 themselves.
There's a continuing boom in planting of English vineyards, and this is going to feed in to very large increases for the foreseeable future because there is already major latent growth in the system. The first crop comes in year 3 after planting, still wine hits the market in year 4 and sparkling, depending on how long kept sur latte, is out from year 5 to potentially up to year 10 and beyond the the prestige cuvees.
I bought a slope in Kent last year and am planting just under 7,000 vines next spring, for blanc de noirs and a bit of still white. I expect to take a first crop in 2024, start selling the still in 2026 and the sparkling as late as possible - at least 2028 but probably later. I am pretty small and won't make a dent in the production numbers but in the hills around my vineyard are big unmarked plantings by Nyetimber as well as the ever expanding plantings of Domaine Evremond (Taittinger), Simpsons, Westwell etc. Closer to London Mark Dixon (he of Regus offices) has embarked on plantings of unprecedented scale, something like 1,000ha South of Gravesend covering both slopes of an entire valley, with more to come.
Someone mentioned red wine for £8 a bottle further down. I agree that's not really a thing yet - the good still reds are rare and very expensive, generally north of £30, but I did pick up a bottle of Pinot Noir at Clayhill vineyard in Essex (who supply Chapel Down amongst others) for £8.50 last weekend.
Also much investment from foreign winemakers, I understand.
Some super dodgy secret donations from companies that don't exist....no its the electoral commission screw up.
If you check your link, there is indeed an EC error but then:- Additionally, the commission said the Conservatives had advised them the party had "inaccurately reported" donations from another company. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-57365728
If you consider the relatively small amount it will almost certainly turn out to be a cock up. You are not going to get a lot of influence for 6k!
Revered scientific journal The Lancet has created a ‘task force’ to investigate the origins of the coronavirus that caused a global pandemic. Finally we will get the truth. Lab leak, bioweapon, angry bat at a stall?
The Lancet is on the case, with a massive new "task force"
And who have they appointed as the head of this brilliant, incisive, utterly neutral "task force"?
Peter Daszak, who funded the gain of function viral research at Wuhan, and who lied about his links to it in his letter to, er, the Lancet, and who has been lying ever since.
I kid you not. Do they not do self awareness at THE LANCET?
This is like President Nixon, about six months into the worst of Watergate, appointing Sitting President of the USA, President Nixon, to finally listen to the White House tapes.
Well we all trust the editor of the Lancet don't we....
Yesterday's weather forecast for London must have been one of the worst ever. There was supposed to be either no rain or a light shower. Instead, Lords was totally washed out.
Weather forecasting does seem to have become less reliable recently. Whether that's because the Met Office needs a new supercomputer or because the BBC and other media use smaller forecasters...
Is this anecdotal, or are there studies to back this up?
It is anecdotal. There are studies but I've not looked at them.
The verification stats for the major global models have been getting progressively better year on year led by ECMWF and the Met Office model, but with progress by a few more minor ones like the Canadian GEM too. The American GFS supplies most of the automated forecasts online because they release much more free data, and they are also decent (generally 3rd globally after the top 2 but not much in it).
Local scale high def models have also been improving. It's very much a direct result of greater processing power. The Met's UKV, French Arpege and Arome, German WRF etc all model shower activity and local temperatures way better than they used to. I think the iPhone app picks up data from these as well as the global models.
Revered scientific journal The Lancet has created a ‘task force’ to investigate the origins of the coronavirus that caused a global pandemic. Finally we will get the truth. Lab leak, bioweapon, angry bat at a stall?
The Lancet is on the case, with a massive new "task force"
And who have they appointed as the head of this brilliant, incisive, utterly neutral "task force"?
Peter Daszak, who funded the gain of function viral research at Wuhan, and who lied about his links to it in his letter to, er, the Lancet, and who has been lying ever since.
I kid you not. Do they not do self awareness at THE LANCET?
This is like President Nixon, about six months into the worst of Watergate, appointing Sitting President of the USA, President Nixon, to finally listen to the White House tapes.
Well we all trust the editor of the Lancet don't we....
It's now way beyond the editor of the Lancet being a lying creep (which he is), it's the mixture of effrontery and desperation in this appointment.
1. The scientific "establishment" thinks it can get away with appointing one of the "guilty" men at the very heart of this cover up - to investigate the bloody cover up - they think we are complacent idiots,
2. But this also shows blind panic. They are so worried about any truth coming out, they make mad moves likes this, to skew an investigation from the off
I conclude from this that it came from the lab, and they know it. Seriously. Why else would you behave like this?
Revered scientific journal The Lancet has created a ‘task force’ to investigate the origins of the coronavirus that caused a global pandemic. Finally we will get the truth. Lab leak, bioweapon, angry bat at a stall?
The Lancet is on the case, with a massive new "task force"
And who have they appointed as the head of this brilliant, incisive, utterly neutral "task force"?
Peter Daszak, who funded the gain of function viral research at Wuhan, and who lied about his links to it in his letter to, er, the Lancet, and who has been lying ever since.
I kid you not. Do they not do self awareness at THE LANCET?
This is like President Nixon, about six months into the worst of Watergate, appointing Sitting President of the USA, President Nixon, to finally listen to the White House tapes.
Well we all trust the editor of the Lancet don't we....
It's now way beyond the editor of the Lancet being a lying creep (which he is), it's the mixture of effrontery and desperation in this appointment.
1. The scientific "establishment" thinks it can get away with appointing one of the "guilty" men at the very heart of this cover up - to investigate the bloody cover up - they think we are complacent idiots,
2. But this also shows blind panic. They are so worried about any truth coming out, they make mad moves likes this, to skew an investigation from the off
I conclude from this that it came from the lab, and they know it. Seriously. Why else would you behave like this?
They should get (non) independent SAGE on the case....
Mark Drakeford: restrictions in Wales won't be lifted on 21st June regardless of what happens in England, and social distancing could remain for the rest of the year.
Mark Drakeford: restrictions in Wales won't be lifted on 21st June regardless of what happens in England, and social distancing could remain for the rest of the year.
Boris will be boxed in here by Drakeford and Sturgeon taking a more cautious and decisive action.
The 21st June has been built up and built up and nobody will remember the talk of it was never certain, it all depended on the data (plus not tackling overseas travel). If Boris doesn't open up, he will get smashed in the polls, if he does, obviously there will be immediate comparisons of covid rates.
NASA administrator confirms he has been directly briefed on UAP by the Navy pilots in question and appears to publicly rule out optical effects as an explanation. Confirms he has instructed NASA scientists to investigate independently of the Pentagon.
Shit starting to get real now.
But Robert S and Peter T told us it was "sensor failure", every two minutes for six centuries. I'm confused
As far as I can ascertain, positive tests have increased fairly sharply in the past month but hospitalisations are flat or even falling. Presumably we are surge testing in hotspots? Any other explanation?
Yesterday's weather forecast for London must have been one of the worst ever. There was supposed to be either no rain or a light shower. Instead, Lords was totally washed out.
Weather forecasting does seem to have become less reliable recently. Whether that's because the Met Office needs a new supercomputer or because the BBC and other media use smaller forecasters...
Is this anecdotal, or are there studies to back this up?
It is anecdotal. There are studies but I've not looked at them.
The verification stats for the major global models have been getting progressively better year on year led by ECMWF and the Met Office model, but with progress by a few more minor ones like the Canadian GEM too. The American GFS supplies most of the automated forecasts online because they release much more free data, and they are also decent (generally 3rd globally after the top 2 but not much in it).
Local scale high def models have also been improving. It's very much a direct result of greater processing power. The Met's UKV, French Arpege and Arome, German WRF etc all model shower activity and local temperatures way better than they used to. I think the iPhone app picks up data from these as well as the global models.
Our expectations are also growing though.
I wasn't keeping a close eye on the forecasts the last few days, so I don't really know what was behind this forecast error. Sometimes you can get quite large differences in the weather experienced from fairly small errors in the meteorology.
NASA administrator confirms he has been directly briefed on UAP by the Navy pilots in question and appears to publicly rule out optical effects as an explanation. Confirms he has instructed NASA scientists to investigate independently of the Pentagon.
Shit starting to get real now.
But Robert S and Peter T told us it was "sensor failure", every two minutes for six centuries. I'm confused
I can hear the scraping of the shifting goalposts on these boards. “Scientists aren’t taking it seriously”. Oh yes they are.
Yesterday's weather forecast for London must have been one of the worst ever. There was supposed to be either no rain or a light shower. Instead, Lords was totally washed out.
Weather forecasting does seem to have become less reliable recently. Whether that's because the Met Office needs a new supercomputer or because the BBC and other media use smaller forecasters...
Is this anecdotal, or are there studies to back this up?
It is anecdotal. There are studies but I've not looked at them.
The verification stats for the major global models have been getting progressively better year on year led by ECMWF and the Met Office model, but with progress by a few more minor ones like the Canadian GEM too. The American GFS supplies most of the automated forecasts online because they release much more free data, and they are also decent (generally 3rd globally after the top 2 but not much in it).
Local scale high def models have also been improving. It's very much a direct result of greater processing power. The Met's UKV, French Arpege and Arome, German WRF etc all model shower activity and local temperatures way better than they used to. I think the iPhone app picks up data from these as well as the global models.
Our expectations are also growing though.
Thanks. Perhaps it is also that we care about different things. For cricket or racing or taking the family to the seaside, I am mainly concerned about rain. The temperature can be off by five degrees in either direction and it won't make a great deal of difference. But if I am running the National Grid then temperature is probably the main factor driving electricity demand, and wind strength affects supply.
Mark Drakeford: restrictions in Wales won't be lifted on 21st June regardless of what happens in England, and social distancing could remain for the rest of the year.
Is The Drake going to close the border with England on 21 June?
As far as I can ascertain, positive tests have increased fairly sharply in the past month but hospitalisations are flat or even falling. Presumably we are surge testing in hotspots? Any other explanation?
Surge testing is finished and double vaccinated people are avoiding LFTs like the plague.
Mark Drakeford: restrictions in Wales won't be lifted on 21st June regardless of what happens in England, and social distancing could remain for the rest of the year.
Boris will be boxed in here by Drakeford and Sturgeon taking a more cautious and decisive action.
Johnson's problem- everyone's problem- is that the possibilities go in this order of desirability;
1 Unlock optimistically and nothing too bad happens 2 Unlock cautiously and nothing too bad happens 3 Unlock optimistically and it goes badly wrong 4 Unlock cautiously and it still goes badly wrong
The relative probabilities of these happening are the sort of thing the boffins can advise on. But the key decision- proceed with the hoped-for plan, or slow down- is down to one man only. And that man does has form for walking away from gambles that aren't sure things.
Mark Drakeford: restrictions in Wales won't be lifted on 21st June regardless of what happens in England, and social distancing could remain for the rest of the year.
Christ that's depressing. I'm just gonna fuck off out of the country to somewhere saner, if they do this in England
Weirdly, Norway is one of the main importers of English wine.
Isn't that all the Skandis, except one. I see to recall 3 from 4.
I guess thinking about it, it makes sense?
Gravity theory suggests our nearest neighbours should be the major importers, but France et al are obviously not going to be importing English wine.
I'm surprised that the domestic wine market doesn't absorb the entirety of English wine production. I'm amazed that we export any at all.
I’m surprised how little there is available in the high street. English Wine really is pretty good.
See above. I suspect price/quality ratio is the issue which in turn is a factor of still low volumes.
But still, for most other product categories you will have food plastered with the union flag. I'd have thought that a degree of patriotic purchasing, plus the novelty value, would create a fair amount of demand for locally-produced wines. Even Lidl, for example, are pretty good at stocking local ranges of beers, so you often have quite different beers stocked in different Lidls around the country.
You’d be surprised how many smart rich Brits are unaware that England now makes superb sparkling wine
I took a good bottle of Nyetimber to a Highgate barbecue recently where everyone was drinking pol roger at least, and they tutted at my choice of wine and then they drank it and said ‘ok, it’s better than the pol roger. Much better’
Quite spenny Nyetimber.
It is. A bottle of the classic cuvee rose is ~£40. About the same as Pol Roger. But it’s better than the French plonk likesay, so VALUE
It's very nice for sure but doesn't beat a bottle of Bolly.
Actually, I think the very best English sparkling wine is better than anything choosing less than about £200 that's French or American.
I'm not such a fan of the still wine, which is a bit overpriced but I have no doubt it will continue to improve.
There's always been folk with more money than sense.
A decent pint of IPA is far better value and taste. Why copy the French when what we do with barley and hops is world class?
Weirdly, Norway is one of the main importers of English wine.
Isn't that all the Skandis, except one. I see to recall 3 from 4.
I guess thinking about it, it makes sense?
Gravity theory suggests our nearest neighbours should be the major importers, but France et al are obviously not going to be importing English wine.
I'm surprised that the domestic wine market doesn't absorb the entirety of English wine production. I'm amazed that we export any at all.
I’m surprised how little there is available in the high street. English Wine really is pretty good.
See above. I suspect price/quality ratio is the issue which in turn is a factor of still low volumes.
But still, for most other product categories you will have food plastered with the union flag. I'd have thought that a degree of patriotic purchasing, plus the novelty value, would create a fair amount of demand for locally-produced wines. Even Lidl, for example, are pretty good at stocking local ranges of beers, so you often have quite different beers stocked in different Lidls around the country.
You’d be surprised how many smart rich Brits are unaware that England now makes superb sparkling wine
I took a good bottle of Nyetimber to a Highgate barbecue recently where everyone was drinking pol roger at least, and they tutted at my choice of wine and then they drank it and said ‘ok, it’s better than the pol roger. Much better’
Quite spenny Nyetimber.
It is. A bottle of the classic cuvee rose is ~£40. About the same as Pol Roger. But it’s better than the French plonk likesay, so VALUE
It's very nice for sure but doesn't beat a bottle of Bolly.
Actually, I think the very best English sparkling wine is better than anything choosing less than about £200 that's French or American.
I'm not such a fan of the still wine, which is a bit overpriced but I have no doubt it will continue to improve.
There's always been folk with more money than sense.
A decent pint of IPA is far better value and taste. Why copy the French when what we do with barley and hops is world class?
The French don't own the concept of "sparkling wine" and we are not copying them. English Fizz has a distinct and noble style, and it is waaaaay more fun than a pint of IPA (nice as that can be)
It’s hard to know what’s going on, given the media focus on variants and prolonged doom. Yet as far as I can work out hospitalisations are flat in the face of sharply rising positive tests, which presumably is very good news? The goal was always to render cases benign, was it not?
As far as I can ascertain, positive tests have increased fairly sharply in the past month but hospitalisations are flat or even falling. Presumably we are surge testing in hotspots? Any other explanation?
Surge testing is finished and double vaccinated people are avoiding LFTs like the plague.
So why the disparity? Just a function of vaccines rendering a higher proportion of cases benign?
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The visitor experience is a big chunk of revenue.
The other funny thing is all the Twitter jokes about if this is a 'twenty point lead' yet: at this rate some time soon there could be a 20 point lead, but if it happens it likely won't be for Sir Keir.
100k hectolitres is 100k*100/0.75, which is 13 million bottles.
So 8% would be 1 million bottles.
Total production volume is about 0.25% of French, so yes - niche :-) .
Con 43.3%
Lab 32.5%
LD 8.1%
Green 6.2%
Couldn't believe it when I saw the cricket was a washout.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jun/04/nigeria-suspends-twitter-after-presidents-tweet-was-deleted
English Fizz supposedly has this issue to contend with: what to call it. They reckon they need a good name like "champagne" or "prosecco" which somehow captures that element of fun and indulgence and celebration in the actual syllables
I don't know why they don't stick with English Fizz. Sounds fun, frivolous, aspirational, a little big naughty. Perfect
'There may be something here' is as vague, meaningless and non committal as you can possibly get.
But it opens itself up to people projecting on you whatever they want to hear.
But it still seems highly far-fetched, and elaborate, and admitting to Congress that US military does not command American airspace is a very strange way to spook China
As always Survation polls are UK - rather than GB - based, so the the equivalent GB figures would be Con 42% Lab 34%.
Nowt either side does changes the picture much as enough folk have decided early to re-elect?
Edit: The virus playing the role of a much longer and more serious fuel protest.
Yang was front-runner until pretty recently, but now Adams is more-or-less (depending on which poll) neck-and-neck. Of the rest of the field, Garcia and Wiley look to have the best shot to make the final cut (at expense of either Adams or Yang) but it's pretty long.
Polls also suggest that Adams is getting more second-choice support than Yang, which is important because of this is a Ranked Choice primary, with voters given up to 5 choices. Had thought that Yang would be a natural to soak up 2nd-choice support, but if that is NOT the case, then an advantage for Adams.
We’re still waiting to see how effective that will be, but at the moment it’s estimated to be 75% effective at making people shitscared of unlocking after one dose.
Here, with authority of WineGB.
Total production, 2019 - 10.5m bottles
Total sales, 2019 - 5.5m bottles
Total exports, 2019 - 550k bottles.
Top export country - Norway @ 20%
Top producing region - the SE (Kent, Sussex, Surrey) @ 61.5% of total volume.
Figures were up steeply on 2018 so, yes it seems like it was having a boom before Covid.
Chapel Downs this morning issued a funding round to boost volumes to 500,000 themselves.
"But can you rule out that these are alien spacecraft?"
"No comment on that"
"You can't rule it out, that they are aliens?"
"See the report, no comment"
Whoever would have predicted that exchange,
"BREAKING: Pentagon Questioned On UAP Report That UFOs May Not Be "Alien Spacecraft.""
https://twitter.com/Forbes/status/1400902262319419392?s=20
And speaking of which, good night.
Cheers.
I bought a slope in Kent last year and am planting just under 7,000 vines next spring, for blanc de noirs and a bit of still white. I expect to take a first crop in 2024, start selling the still in 2026 and the sparkling as late as possible - at least 2028 but probably later. I am pretty small and won't make a dent in the production numbers but in the hills around my vineyard are big unmarked plantings by Nyetimber as well as the ever expanding plantings of Domaine Evremond (Taittinger), Simpsons, Westwell etc. Closer to London Mark Dixon (he of Regus offices) has embarked on plantings of unprecedented scale, something like 1,000ha South of Gravesend covering both slopes of an entire valley, with more to come.
Someone mentioned red wine for £8 a bottle further down. I agree that's not really a thing yet - the good still reds are rare and very expensive, generally north of £30, but I did pick up a bottle of Pinot Noir at Clayhill vineyard in Essex (who supply Chapel Down amongst others) for £8.50 last weekend.
And the remorse. Do you still believe I was lying when I was documenting my long Covid before it was even a thing?
I'm not such a fan of the still wine, which is a bit overpriced but I have no doubt it will continue to improve.
Well you can sleep soundly now you have your Covid vaccine.
I'm glad you make all the big calls right, Keir Starmer is crap, Peter Hitchens is right about everything, including Covid.
What a thoroughly unpleasant individual you are. Night night.
In due course there will be regional appellations but the scale and differentiation just isn't there yet.
I am actually drinking a Nyetimber Rose now, celebrating the finishing of a really hard dildo.
It's sensational stuff for £40 (the wine, not the dildo, you don't get a hand crafted Leon Dildo for less than £500, sorry, and I know you keep asking)
BBC News - Elections watchdog admits errors in reporting Tory donations
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-57365728
Some super dodgy secret donations from companies that don't exist....no its the electoral commission screw up.
One problem with sparkling has been a lack of refinement - a lot of very bright, fruit-forward examples but until recently most were single vintage and released early because the winemakers didn't have the scale or deep pockets to build up reserve wines and multi-vintage blends, or to keep wines on lees for more than a year or so. That is now changing led by the bigger makers and some of the less financially pressed smaller producers.
Additionally, the commission said the Conservatives had advised them the party had "inaccurately reported" donations from another company.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-57365728
Revered scientific journal The Lancet has created a ‘task force’ to investigate the origins of the coronavirus that caused a global pandemic. Finally we will get the truth. Lab leak, bioweapon, angry bat at a stall?
The Lancet is on the case, with a massive new "task force"
And who have they appointed as the head of this brilliant, incisive, utterly neutral "task force"?
Peter Daszak, who funded the gain of function viral research at Wuhan, and who lied about his links to it in his letter to, er, the Lancet, and who has been lying ever since.
I kid you not. Do they not do self awareness at THE LANCET?
https://covid19commission.org/origins-of-the-pandemic
This is like President Nixon, about six months into the worst of Watergate, appointing Sitting President of the USA, President Nixon, to finally listen to the White House tapes.
NASA administrator confirms he has been directly briefed on UAP by the Navy pilots in question and appears to publicly rule out optical effects as an explanation. Confirms he has instructed NASA scientists to investigate independently of the Pentagon.
Shit starting to get real now.
Local scale high def models have also been improving. It's very much a direct result of greater processing power. The Met's UKV, French Arpege and Arome, German WRF etc all model shower activity and local temperatures way better than they used to. I think the iPhone app picks up data from these as well as the global models.
Our expectations are also growing though.
1. The scientific "establishment" thinks it can get away with appointing one of the "guilty" men at the very heart of this cover up - to investigate the bloody cover up - they think we are complacent idiots,
2. But this also shows blind panic. They are so worried about any truth coming out, they make mad moves likes this, to skew an investigation from the off
I conclude from this that it came from the lab, and they know it. Seriously. Why else would you behave like this?
The 21st June has been built up and built up and nobody will remember the talk of it was never certain, it all depended on the data (plus not tackling overseas travel). If Boris doesn't open up, he will get smashed in the polls, if he does, obviously there will be immediate comparisons of covid rates.
1 Unlock optimistically and nothing too bad happens
2 Unlock cautiously and nothing too bad happens
3 Unlock optimistically and it goes badly wrong
4 Unlock cautiously and it still goes badly wrong
The relative probabilities of these happening are the sort of thing the boffins can advise on. But the key decision- proceed with the hoped-for plan, or slow down- is down to one man only. And that man does has form for walking away from gambles that aren't sure things.
A decent pint of IPA is far better value and taste. Why copy the French when what we do with barley and hops is world class?