Why on Earth would anyone vote “Lozza”? I think we can safely ignore Leon’s attempts to pose as a sentient poster.
He'd have been my first choice in London too.
That's fairly disappointing tbh, CR. Lozza has become the worst kind of reactionary right wing rent-a-gob and has been courting anti-vaxxers. He goes well beyond "saying it how it is" and will hopefully come very close to last place.
I can't find any example of him "race baiting". Do show, I am happy to be schooled
1. There's no vacancy as leader of the Labour Party. Starmer isn't going anywhere for at least a year, even if tonight's results are horrendous. And there won't be a challenge.
2. Don't forget that Starmer won the leadership election hands down. The idea that there's any appetite for somebody like Burgon from the membership is ludicrous.
3. If Starmer were to jack it in, I'd expect both Rayner and Nandy to stand. Nandy would win, because she'd run a better, more articulate campaign and has the ability to appeal to all factions in the party apart from the far, far left who are, as can be seen from the last leader/deputy election, in retreat.
I would have agreed with you right up until the conversation where a very good source told me that she is going for him. An apocalypse-o-fuck result and then the deputy saying time's up? I agree that had a challenge come from Dicky B then it would have been laughed off. Not from Rayner.
I wonder if your very good source is as reliable as my very good sources that tell me Rayner has absolutely no intention of challenging Starmer, whatever the outcomes of today's elections. I write as a current Labour member, rather than as a Lib Dem who, understandably, seeks to slag off Labour at every opportunity.
Perhaps she won't. But I trust my sources when it comes to campaigning on Teesside and the various big beats who have been involved which is all of them. I don't think people get just how "oh fuck" it is. Labour are going to lose every election they are fighting tonight on Teesside to the Tories. Every single one. Council seats, PCC, Mayoral, MP. Unless their polling numbers are wrong.
This is a betting site. I am providing anonymised tips when I get them from the heart of the campaign there. As always, DYOR.
What about. MIddlesbrough Mayor ? Is the expectation the independent guy will hold on.
Why on Earth would anyone vote “Lozza”? I think we can safely ignore Leon’s attempts to pose as a sentient poster.
He'd have been my first choice in London too.
That's fairly disappointing tbh, CR. Lozza has become the worst kind of reactionary right wing rent-a-gob and has been courting anti-vaxxers. He goes well beyond "saying it how it is" and will hopefully come very close to last place.
I don't agree with him on anti-vaxxers and, like Leon says, he's a bit of a dick but I do support his platform of anti-Wokeness and anti-cancel culture; I'd be buggered if I'd vote for Shaun Bailey as my first choice instead - so, it would be him.
Thankfully for you, though, I don't live in London anymore.
BERLIN — Germany Thursday opened up the use of the Oxford/AstraZeneca coronavirus vaccine for everyone over the age of 18 in order to speed up immunization efforts, Health Minister Jens Spahn announced.
Speaking at a press conference in Berlin following talks with Germany's 16 state-level health ministers, Spahn said the vaccine should become available to all, regardless of their medical history.
"We agreed today to completely abolish the prioritization of AstraZeneca's vaccine — this means that when vaccinations are administered in doctors' offices, it is the doctors who decide who is to be vaccinated and when, at their own discretion," he said, adding that "the vaccine can only be administered after the patient has been informed [about potential risks] by the doctor and an individual decision has been made."
So, I voted Lib Dem. I'm now on the gin as I try and come to terms with it.
Do I get a free pair of sandals now from OGH or @IanB2 ?
Everyone should vote Lib Dem at least once in their life. I got it out the way nice and early in my first ever election. Went for an Indie today at ward level.
1. There's no vacancy as leader of the Labour Party. Starmer isn't going anywhere for at least a year, even if tonight's results are horrendous. And there won't be a challenge.
2. Don't forget that Starmer won the leadership election hands down. The idea that there's any appetite for somebody like Burgon from the membership is ludicrous.
3. If Starmer were to jack it in, I'd expect both Rayner and Nandy to stand. Nandy would win, because she'd run a better, more articulate campaign and has the ability to appeal to all factions in the party apart from the far, far left who are, as can be seen from the last leader/deputy election, in retreat.
I would have agreed with you right up until the conversation where a very good source told me that she is going for him. An apocalypse-o-fuck result and then the deputy saying time's up? I agree that had a challenge come from Dicky B then it would have been laughed off. Not from Rayner.
I wonder if your very good source is as reliable as my very good sources that tell me Rayner has absolutely no intention of challenging Starmer, whatever the outcomes of today's elections. I write as a current Labour member, rather than as a Lib Dem who, understandably, seeks to slag off Labour at every opportunity.
Perhaps she won't. But I trust my sources when it comes to campaigning on Teesside and the various big beats who have been involved which is all of them. I don't think people get just how "oh fuck" it is. Labour are going to lose every election they are fighting tonight on Teesside to the Tories. Every single one. Council seats, PCC, Mayoral, MP. Unless their polling numbers are wrong.
This is a betting site. I am providing anonymised tips when I get them from the heart of the campaign there. As always, DYOR.
What about. MIddlesbrough Mayor ? Is the expectation the independent guy will hold on.
Why on Earth would anyone vote “Lozza”? I think we can safely ignore Leon’s attempts to pose as a sentient poster.
He'd have been my first choice in London too.
That's fairly disappointing tbh, CR. Lozza has become the worst kind of reactionary right wing rent-a-gob and has been courting anti-vaxxers. He goes well beyond "saying it how it is" and will hopefully come very close to last place.
I don't agree with him on anti-vaxxers and, like Leon says, he's a bit of a dick but I do support his platform of anti-Wokeness and anti-cancel culture; I'd be buggered if I'd vote for Shaun Bailey as my first choice instead - so, it would be him.
Thankfully for you, though, I don't live in London anymore.
Londoners were given a pretty awful set of options.
I disagree completely that its no big deal if the Tories win tonight, its massive. For quite a few reasons.
These Brexit Party voters are not-Tories, traditionally Labour, that were not prepared to vote Tory even in 2019 to "Get Brexit Done".
This is far from the only seat that would fall if BXP voters go blue. It'll be the case for eg Yvette Cooper's too.
A baseline majority would be 110 instead of 80 if Hartlepool and comparable falls.
This is midterms, the government should be losing.
It shows that "Get Brexit Done" wasn't a one-off two years ago.
It shows that Corbyn wasn't the be all and end all either.
Even if the political layout "just" keeps the landscape the same as it was in 2019, that's incredibly good news for the Tories.
I sort of agree, and sort of don't.
There will be no Brexit Party in 2024. And had they not stood in 2019, we can reasonably assume that Hartlepool would have been a Conservative gain then.
Hartlepool was also one of the most pro-Brexit constituencies in the entire country, and the Conservative Party has delivered Brexit.
And one would expect that the government should - at this moment in time - be getting lots of credit for their handling of vaccines (and particularly when compared to our friends over the water).
So, them winning this seat is a big deal, but not *that* big a deal. If on the morning after the last General Election in 2019, you'd asked 'which seat would be most vulnerable to a Conservative gain in the event of a by-election?', it would have been hard not to choose this one.
Except everyone was saying Labour lost last time because people wanted to get Brexit done and get rid of Corbyn. They'd loaned their votes as a one-off and would return to the fold once that was done.
Well, Brexit has been done and Corbyn has now gone.
Well voting is beyond brisk in my village. Over 60% turnout at 8pm and going like a fair. Can't say that this is good news for Unionists. The army of the dead (in the head) that follow Nicola have apparently risen from their pits. Bah.
Why does everyone seem to think "Nicola" walks on water in Scotland?
I can't stand her. Lots of people I know round here can't. Yet, people throw themselves down in front of her north of the border.
What is it? Her earnestness? Her utter obsession with nothing but politics since the age of twelve? Her annoying voice? Her professional - but transparent - obfuscation or any criticism? Her poor performance and delivery in office? Her jerky head-bobbing whenever she's interviewed? Her habit of angrily spitting out "The Tories" three times in every sentence? Her total lack of a sense of humour?
Do tell.
You're asking the wrong person. Personally I am fonder of an unfortunate event I had to scrape off my shoe this morning.
Interesting. Anecdotally in Durham labour are campaigning in seats that last time round were split between one independent and one labour. They appear to be running a defensive campaign. A Tory candidate I spoke to on a Facebook group was saying their concern in Durham is the large amount of independents splitting the anti labour vote and there is a strong anti labour sentiment here.
"Newcastle United’s owner, Mike Ashley, has claimed “dark forces” are preventing the struggling Premier League club from emerging as a football superpower after HMRC quietly discontinued a long-running investigation into its tax affairs."
So, I voted Lib Dem. I'm now on the gin as I try and come to terms with it.
Do I get a free pair of sandals now from OGH or @IanB2 ?
Everyone should vote Lib Dem at least once in their life. I got it out the way nice and early in my first ever election. Went for an Indie today at ward level.
I once voted Tory. The only opponent was BNP.
Dare say I've kissed some Tories too. Don't tell Laura Pidcock.
This is my first post in almost a year I think, I was getting frustrated arguing against the lockdown. Realising all I was doing was making myself agents I decided to stop positing, didn't think it would be this long of a gap.
I see a few new posters on here, hello all!
A question, normally for local elections I can find the number of candidates each party are standing, which for some reason I find interesting, I cant seem to find those number this time, unless anybody can share a link.
But wondering will this have some impact? I'm seeing that in Hartlepool where Con look set to win the By-election they do not have candidates in half of the seats for the local council. is this isolated or more widespread, could there be LG seats that could be Tory pickups but don't even have a CON candidate?
Why on Earth would anyone vote “Lozza”? I think we can safely ignore Leon’s attempts to pose as a sentient poster.
He'd have been my first choice in London too.
That's fairly disappointing tbh, CR. Lozza has become the worst kind of reactionary right wing rent-a-gob and has been courting anti-vaxxers. He goes well beyond "saying it how it is" and will hopefully come very close to last place.
I don't agree with him on anti-vaxxers and, like Leon says, he's a bit of a dick but I do support his platform of anti-Wokeness and anti-cancel culture; I'd be buggered if I'd vote for Shaun Bailey as my first choice instead - so, it would be him.
Thankfully for you, though, I don't live in London anymore.
Londoners were given a pretty awful set of options.
It’s odd that Rory dropped out. He’d have stood an excellent chance as an Independent I’d have thought, the Blue Ken if you like. Notwithstanding his weird tie moment in the Tory leadership debate.
Well voting is beyond brisk in my village. Over 60% turnout at 8pm and going like a fair. Can't say that this is good news for Unionists. The army of the dead (in the head) that follow Nicola have apparently risen from their pits. Bah.
Why does everyone seem to think "Nicola" walks on water in Scotland?
I can't stand her. Lots of people I know round here can't. Yet, people throw themselves down in front of her north of the border.
What is it? Her earnestness? Her utter obsession with nothing but politics since the age of twelve? Her annoying voice? Her professional - but transparent - obfuscation or any criticism? Her poor performance and delivery in office? Her jerky head-bobbing whenever she's interviewed? Her habit of angrily spitting out "The Tories" three times in every sentence? Her total lack of a sense of humour?
Do tell.
Hm. For somebody who just posted that their first choice in London would have been Laurence Fox (which surprised me), I'm not sure you've strengthened your position to tear apart Sturgeon.
As an aside, although I disagree with much of what you say on 'woke' matters, I respect your views and you often make them well. But Laurence Fox? Really? He's not just anti-woke - he's a full on anti-vaxxer, Covid denier, let it rip merchant.
It's a good job he's not standing to be secretary of state for health then, isn't it?
So, I voted Lib Dem. I'm now on the gin as I try and come to terms with it.
Do I get a free pair of sandals now from OGH or @IanB2 ?
You're getting a volley of abuse from HYUFD for rejecting the faith.
In fairness, I could only bring myself to half-vote Lib Dem - so I did so with just one "slash", not a cross, and I defaced my ballot with "END COVID LAWS" as well.
I don't care too much if it's counted or not. And I totally defaced my PCC ballot paper.
Yes, it's childish, but it's my vote and it's a silly year so... a plague on all your houses.
I was the same. I'd considered voting Lib Dem, but then Layla Moran appearing to side with the French reminded me how far the Lib Dems have still been poisoned by Brexit and how far back they have to come. They are still riddled with people who in any dispute will take the side of the Europeans. I actually went to vote, but couldn't bring myself to vote for any of them.
I presume the most interesting event will be who comes bottom in the London mayor race, at least out of those running with some kind of party backing (albeit minor).
From the wikipedia page we've got:
Renew Party - campaigning on UBI and support for businesses, doesn't seem likely to get a look in as too sincere for joke candidate, not big enough for serious attention Count Binface Party - self explanatory, at least gets some attention Burning Pink Party - campaigning on abolishing government altogether, and running things through citizen assemblies - loony, to be sure, but the right kind of loony to get attention? Let London Live - Piers Corbyn, running on conspiracy theories about Covid-19, totally mad, and there's a crowded field on the covid denial Reclaim - Fox's mob, anti wokeness, but that's hardly much to base it around. At least gets attention, UKIP - Gammon. A zombie party. Rejoin EU - campaigning on rejoining Erasmus. Some small vote for most EU friendly in the race? Animal Welfare Party - campaigning on carbon net zero - same problem with Renew Social Democratic Party - candidate was BXP, who knows Heritage Party - Former UKIP assembly member. Campaigning on cycle lanes and end to buffer zones outside abortion clinics. What? Too many former UKIP/BXP to get attention Women's Equality Party - social justice et al. Has at least minor brand recognition. London Real Party - Rose - Covid denier apparently. Crowded field. People have at least heard name due to early attention. And three independents.
Why on Earth would anyone vote “Lozza”? I think we can safely ignore Leon’s attempts to pose as a sentient poster.
He'd have been my first choice in London too.
That's fairly disappointing tbh, CR. Lozza has become the worst kind of reactionary right wing rent-a-gob and has been courting anti-vaxxers. He goes well beyond "saying it how it is" and will hopefully come very close to last place.
I can't find any example of him "race baiting". Do show, I am happy to be schooled
He was very keen on the "All Lives Matter" meme in response to BLM, I recall. You may not think of this as race-baiting, though I do. It was a meme shared by many on the far, far right.
So, I voted Lib Dem. I'm now on the gin as I try and come to terms with it.
Do I get a free pair of sandals now from OGH or @IanB2 ?
Everyone should vote Lib Dem at least once in their life. I got it out the way nice and early in my first ever election. Went for an Indie today at ward level.
I once voted Tory. The only opponent was BNP.
Dare say I've kissed some Tories too. Don't tell Laura Pidcock.
"Some"
What? Are you some sort of secret (nerdy) lothario?
So, I voted Lib Dem. I'm now on the gin as I try and come to terms with it.
Do I get a free pair of sandals now from OGH or @IanB2 ?
Everyone should vote Lib Dem at least once in their life. I got it out the way nice and early in my first ever election. Went for an Indie today at ward level.
Voted LibDem twice today in the same election. OK so voting LibDem for the constituency is a hopeless cause but having delivered three rounds of the kid's leaflets I probably should have voted for him.
Well voting is beyond brisk in my village. Over 60% turnout at 8pm and going like a fair. Can't say that this is good news for Unionists. The army of the dead (in the head) that follow Nicola have apparently risen from their pits. Bah.
Why does everyone seem to think "Nicola" walks on water in Scotland?
I can't stand her. Lots of people I know round here can't. Yet, people throw themselves down in front of her north of the border.
What is it? Her earnestness? Her utter obsession with nothing but politics since the age of twelve? Her annoying voice? Her professional - but transparent - obfuscation or any criticism? Her poor performance and delivery in office? Her jerky head-bobbing whenever she's interviewed? Her habit of angrily spitting out "The Tories" three times in every sentence? Her total lack of a sense of humour?
Do tell.
Hm. For somebody who just posted that their first choice in London would have been Laurence Fox (which surprised me), I'm not sure you've strengthened your position to tear apart Sturgeon.
As an aside, although I disagree with much of what you say on 'woke' matters, I respect your views and you often make them well. But Laurence Fox? Really? He's not just anti-woke - he's a full on anti-vaxxer, Covid denier, let it rip merchant.
So, I voted Lib Dem. I'm now on the gin as I try and come to terms with it.
Do I get a free pair of sandals now from OGH or @IanB2 ?
Everyone should vote Lib Dem at least once in their life. I got it out the way nice and early in my first ever election. Went for an Indie today at ward level.
I once voted Tory. The only opponent was BNP.
Dare say I've kissed some Tories too. Don't tell Laura Pidcock.
I once voted Green in a Euro election on the basis that it was the best vote for preventing the BNP from getting a regional seat.
Is Lozza crazy. Or just acting that way? Similar (I think?) to Ozzie Osbourne versus the bat?
Lozza is anti-virtue signalling.
He said a few mildly controversial things and got praised by the right. So he said a few more controversial things. The danger of course is eventually you become too controversial and end up like Katie Hopkins or James Delingpole
Sorry, I’m with @MaxPB and @TSE. He really is dross.
I'm with Max too.
I don't know what he's said on race so won't criticise him on that, but for the antivaxx nonsense alone he should be beyond the pale. Sorry CR, I really respect you a lot, so I have to say it.
Why on Earth would anyone vote “Lozza”? I think we can safely ignore Leon’s attempts to pose as a sentient poster.
He'd have been my first choice in London too.
That's fairly disappointing tbh, CR. Lozza has become the worst kind of reactionary right wing rent-a-gob and has been courting anti-vaxxers. He goes well beyond "saying it how it is" and will hopefully come very close to last place.
I don't agree with him on anti-vaxxers and, like Leon says, he's a bit of a dick but I do support his platform of anti-Wokeness and anti-cancel culture; I'd be buggered if I'd vote for Shaun Bailey as my first choice instead - so, it would be him.
Thankfully for you, though, I don't live in London anymore.
Londoners were given a pretty awful set of options.
While we're all focused on Lozza, let us not forget that the actual Labour mayor - the man who will easily win again - has had some concerning links with Islamists.
"The Labour candidate for mayor of London was under pressure last night after it emerged that he complained to MPs about the demonisation of a hardline Islamic cleric.
"Sadiq Khan objected to the treatment of Yusuf al-Qaradawi, who had called for the destruction of Jews and the death penalty for homosexuals.
"Mr Khan, as chairman of legal affairs at the Muslim Council of Britain, gave evidence to the home affairs select committee’s inquiry into community relations in 2004 when he was a Labour councillor in the London borough of Wandsworth."
Why on Earth would anyone vote “Lozza”? I think we can safely ignore Leon’s attempts to pose as a sentient poster.
He'd have been my first choice in London too.
That's fairly disappointing tbh, CR. Lozza has become the worst kind of reactionary right wing rent-a-gob and has been courting anti-vaxxers. He goes well beyond "saying it how it is" and will hopefully come very close to last place.
I don't agree with him on anti-vaxxers and, like Leon says, he's a bit of a dick but I do support his platform of anti-Wokeness and anti-cancel culture; I'd be buggered if I'd vote for Shaun Bailey as my first choice instead - so, it would be him.
Thankfully for you, though, I don't live in London anymore.
It's just completely irresponsible and whatever his other views are courting anti-vaxxers and validating them during a pandemic is not worthy of any votes.
I also think he's a bit scatter brained, easily distracted by the latest stupidity which has made him a reactionary rather than a visionary.
Anyway, this is London. It's the world's greatest city because people can live how they want. Wokeism simply doesn't effect my world at all, my workplace is simply immune and we've always had a policy of "if you don't like it, fuck off" which isn't going to change. My friends, family, colleagues - none of them really pay any attention to this shite, it's all "twitter nonsense" to the wider world.
My main two concerns in London are 1 - crime and 2 - housing, I think I'm in the majority in London. Wokeism or anything like that doesn't even register.
Hartlepool 1945:Rose 1950:Rose 1951:Rose 1955:Rose 1959: Blue circle (by 182 votes) 1964:Rose 1966:Rose 1970:Rose 1974:Rose 1974:Rose 1979:Rose 1983:Rose 1987:Rose 1992:Rose 1997:Rose 2001:Rose 2004:Rose 2005:Rose 2010:Rose 2015:Rose 2017:Rose 2019:Rose 2021: Blue circle (by 20%)
it’s Starmers fault.
Conveniently you have avoided considering the thrust of Mike's analysis, which is with the combined Brexit/Conservative vote in 2019 Corbyn got thumped in Harlepool. That is not to say that there shouldn't be some finger pointing at Starmer when Andrew RT Davies is FM in Wales and Shaun Bailey is Mayor of London.
Is Lozza crazy. Or just acting that way? Similar (I think?) to Ozzie Osbourne versus the bat?
I recall when he first came on the scene there was some sense he was an amateur who might have some points, he even rolled back on a few things when he said something stupid, but my vague impression is since then he's rather gotten off on the level of buzz he can get and plays it up. Or, as GarethoftheVale suggests, he sort of went down a certain path of anti-virtue signalling, and tripped over the line.
Casino voting for Lozza Fox is just sad. His views on everything I now question if anyone sane can vote for that nutjob
I didn't vote for him, you tedious dipstick.
I said I *would* have voted for him had I lived in London.
It's like someone on the centre-left voting for Count Binface - it sends a message.
Which is what, in Fox's case? (I get the CB vote!)
Anti-Wokeness and anti-cancel culture. It also puts further pressure on the Conservatives from the libertarian right to counteract their current drift to an authoritarian tendency in Government. It's entirely legitimate.
Another way to do it is to vote Lib Dem, as I did today, but that's pro-Woke and only from the libertarian centre. Hence why my vote was half-hearted and partly spoilt.
I'd prefer to send a message on both, so in London I'd exercise my choice differently - it's entirely legitimate.
I presume the most interesting event will be who comes bottom in the London mayor race, at least out of those running with some kind of party backing (albeit minor).
From the wikipedia page we've got:
Renew Party - campaigning on UBI and support for businesses, doesn't seem likely to get a look in as too sincere for joke candidate, not big enough for serious attention Count Binface Party - self explanatory, at least gets some attention Burning Pink Party - campaigning on abolishing government altogether, and running things through citizen assemblies - loony, to be sure, but the right kind of loony to get attention? Let London Live - Piers Corbyn, running on conspiracy theories about Covid-19, totally mad, and there's a crowded field on the covid denial Reclaim - Fox's mob, anti wokeness, but that's hardly much to base it aroud. At least gets attention, UKIP - Gammon. A zombie party. Rejoin EU - campaigning on rejoining Erasmus. Some small vote for most EU friendly in the race? Animal Welfare Party - campaigning on carbon net zero - same problem with Renew Social Democratic Party - candidate was BXP, who knows Heritage Party - Former UKIP assembly member. Campaigning on cycle lanes and end to buffer zones outside abortion clinics. What? Too many former UKIP/BXP to get attention Women's Equality Party - social justice et al. Has at least minor brand recognition. London Real Party - Rose - Covid denier apparently. Crowded field. People have at least heard name due to early attention. And three independents.
One of the indies is a YouTube thing who seemed to poll quite well (for a YouTube thing) a week or so back. He might do quite well compared to some of those.
So, I voted Lib Dem. I'm now on the gin as I try and come to terms with it.
Do I get a free pair of sandals now from OGH or @IanB2 ?
Everyone should vote Lib Dem at least once in their life. I got it out the way nice and early in my first ever election. Went for an Indie today at ward level.
I once voted Tory. The only opponent was BNP.
Dare say I've kissed some Tories too. Don't tell Laura Pidcock.
Sir Gerald Nabarro? Or was it Ann Widdecomb?
Or, most intriguing of all (in more ways than one) Anna Soubry?
I presume the most interesting event will be who comes bottom in the London mayor race, at least out of those running with some kind of party backing (albeit minor).
From the wikipedia page we've got:
Renew Party - campaigning on UBI and support for businesses, doesn't seem likely to get a look in as too sincere for joke candidate, not big enough for serious attention Count Binface Party - self explanatory, at least gets some attention Burning Pink Party - campaigning on abolishing government altogether, and running things through citizen assemblies - loony, to be sure, but the right kind of loony to get attention? Let London Live - Piers Corbyn, running on conspiracy theories about Covid-19, totally mad, and there's a crowded field on the covid denial Reclaim - Fox's mob, anti wokeness, but that's hardly much to base it aroud. At least gets attention, UKIP - Gammon. A zombie party. Rejoin EU - campaigning on rejoining Erasmus. Some small vote for most EU friendly in the race? Animal Welfare Party - campaigning on carbon net zero - same problem with Renew Social Democratic Party - candidate was BXP, who knows Heritage Party - Former UKIP assembly member. Campaigning on cycle lanes and end to buffer zones outside abortion clinics. What? Too many former UKIP/BXP to get attention Women's Equality Party - social justice et al. Has at least minor brand recognition. London Real Party - Rose - Covid denier apparently. Crowded field. People have at least heard name due to early attention. And three independents.
You rank the candidates right? If so, I’d guess that if you wanted to casually throw away your last vote because you didn’t care, you’d be more likely to go high up on the ballot? Therefore last place is likely to be low in the alphabet.
A Brussels plot to lock the City out of European markets has backfired and harmed the finances of banks on the Continent, the boss of the UK's finance watchdog has said.
Nikhil Rathi, head of the Financial Conduct Authority (FCA), said in a first major intervention that European Union lenders have lost market share because of resistance to a so-called equivalence deal that would have preserved ties with Britain.
He added that the UK will not now pursue access to the EU at any price - and vowed to use the country's post-Brexit freedoms to redraft cumbersome regulations.
Why on Earth would anyone vote “Lozza”? I think we can safely ignore Leon’s attempts to pose as a sentient poster.
He'd have been my first choice in London too.
That's fairly disappointing tbh, CR. Lozza has become the worst kind of reactionary right wing rent-a-gob and has been courting anti-vaxxers. He goes well beyond "saying it how it is" and will hopefully come very close to last place.
I can't find any example of him "race baiting". Do show, I am happy to be schooled
He was very keen on the "All Lives Matter" meme in response to BLM, I recall. You may not think of this as race-baiting, though I do. It was a meme shared by many on the far, far right.
To be fair, if you just heard the phrase "Black Lives Matter" out of any other context, the most obvious inference to be drawn is that, for the speaker, by their exclusion, other lives do not matter - or at very least do not matter as much. I think many people reacted badly to the phrase in the absence of context.
If, on the other hand, you hear the phrase in the context of "of course, all lives matter equally, but historically society has acted as if black lives do not matter, so when we say black lives matter, we are asserting that they do indeed matter as much as any other life" then the BLM phrase is not offensive, and indeed it is offensive not to agree with that sentiment.
I disagree completely that its no big deal if the Tories win tonight, its massive. For quite a few reasons.
These Brexit Party voters are not-Tories, traditionally Labour, that were not prepared to vote Tory even in 2019 to "Get Brexit Done".
This is far from the only seat that would fall if BXP voters go blue. It'll be the case for eg Yvette Cooper's too.
A baseline majority would be 110 instead of 80 if Hartlepool and comparable falls.
This is midterms, the government should be losing.
It shows that "Get Brexit Done" wasn't a one-off two years ago.
It shows that Corbyn wasn't the be all and end all either.
Even if the political layout "just" keeps the landscape the same as it was in 2019, that's incredibly good news for the Tories.
I sort of agree, and sort of don't.
There will be no Brexit Party in 2024. And had they not stood in 2019, we can reasonably assume that Hartlepool would have been a Conservative gain then.
Hartlepool was also one of the most pro-Brexit constituencies in the entire country, and the Conservative Party has delivered Brexit.
And one would expect that the government should - at this moment in time - be getting lots of credit for their handling of vaccines (and particularly when compared to our friends over the water).
So, them winning this seat is a big deal, but not *that* big a deal. If on the morning after the last General Election in 2019, you'd asked 'which seat would be most vulnerable to a Conservative gain in the event of a by-election?', it would have been hard not to choose this one.
Except everyone was saying Labour lost last time because people wanted to get Brexit done and get rid of Corbyn. They'd loaned their votes as a one-off and would return to the fold once that was done.
Well, Brexit has been done and Corbyn has now gone.
And they're still voting Tory.
Yes.
But at the same time, you can't ignore the fact that:
1. The Tories did in fact deliver Brexit. And the Labour Party put up a vocal "Peoples Vote" Remainer in one of the most Brexity seats in the country. Which was - to put it generously - an odd decision.
2. Boris Johnson's government has delivered vaccines!
I'm not saying it's not meaningful. I'm saying that Philip's analysis overstates how meaningful it is.
I disagree completely that its no big deal if the Tories win tonight, its massive. For quite a few reasons.
These Brexit Party voters are not-Tories, traditionally Labour, that were not prepared to vote Tory even in 2019 to "Get Brexit Done".
This is far from the only seat that would fall if BXP voters go blue. It'll be the case for eg Yvette Cooper's too.
A baseline majority would be 110 instead of 80 if Hartlepool and comparable falls.
This is midterms, the government should be losing.
It shows that "Get Brexit Done" wasn't a one-off two years ago.
It shows that Corbyn wasn't the be all and end all either.
Even if the political layout "just" keeps the landscape the same as it was in 2019, that's incredibly good news for the Tories.
I sort of agree, and sort of don't.
There will be no Brexit Party in 2024. And had they not stood in 2019, we can reasonably assume that Hartlepool would have been a Conservative gain then.
Hartlepool was also one of the most pro-Brexit constituencies in the entire country, and the Conservative Party has delivered Brexit.
And one would expect that the government should - at this moment in time - be getting lots of credit for their handling of vaccines (and particularly when compared to our friends over the water).
So, them winning this seat is a big deal, but not *that* big a deal. If on the morning after the last General Election in 2019, you'd asked 'which seat would be most vulnerable to a Conservative gain in the event of a by-election?', it would have been hard not to choose this one.
Except everyone was saying Labour lost last time because people wanted to get Brexit done and get rid of Corbyn. They'd loaned their votes as a one-off and would return to the fold once that was done.
Well, Brexit has been done and Corbyn has now gone.
And they're still voting Tory.
As I said before during and after, Brexit was the remaking of politics, the end of the Thatcher-Blair era and the start of a new one. We have reshaped politics with Brexit, and now we have new parties in old places.
The old Labour party is now the Johnsonite Tory party. Johnson's political platform is what Labour's used to be. Contrary to that, Starmer's Labour party is what the Tories used to be. The labels have changed, the politics have not.
They're voting Tory because the Tories offer what Labour used to offer. They're rejecting Labour because they represent what the Tories used to represent.
Casino voting for Lozza Fox is just sad. His views on everything I now question if anyone sane can vote for that nutjob
I didn't vote for him, you tedious dipstick.
I said I *would* have voted for him had I lived in London.
It's like someone on the centre-left voting for Count Binface - it sends a message.
Which is what, in Fox's case? (I get the CB vote!)
Anti-Wokeness and anti-cancel culture. It also puts further pressure on the Conservatives from the libertarian right to counteract their current drift to an authoritarian tendency in Government. It's entirely legitimate.
Another way to do it is to vote Lib Dem, as I did today, but that's pro-Woke and only from the libertarian centre. Hence why my vote was half-hearted and partly spoilt.
I'd prefer to send a message on both, so in London I'd exercise my choice differently - it's entirely legitimate.
London has got real issue with crime and housing. I just don't see how wokeism relates to either. The mayor is just useless and we desperately need a new one but we've got a rerun of Trump vs Hillary, the two candidates everyone hates.
Why on Earth would anyone vote “Lozza”? I think we can safely ignore Leon’s attempts to pose as a sentient poster.
He'd have been my first choice in London too.
That's fairly disappointing tbh, CR. Lozza has become the worst kind of reactionary right wing rent-a-gob and has been courting anti-vaxxers. He goes well beyond "saying it how it is" and will hopefully come very close to last place.
I can't find any example of him "race baiting". Do show, I am happy to be schooled
He was very keen on the "All Lives Matter" meme in response to BLM, I recall. You may not think of this as race-baiting, though I do. It was a meme shared by many on the far, far right.
To be fair, if you just heard the phrase "Black Lives Matter" out of any other context, the most obvious inference to be drawn is that, for the speaker, by their exclusion, other lives do not matter - or at very least do not matter as much. I think many people reacted badly to the phrase in the absence of context.
If, on the other hand, you hear the phrase in the context of "of course, all lives matter equally, but historically society has acted as if black lives do not matter, so when we say black lives matter, we are asserting that they do indeed matter as much as any other life" then the BLM phrase is not offensive, and indeed it is offensive not to agree with that sentiment.
And then you go on the Official Black Lives Matter website and you realise they are a Marxist cult that hates the police and wants to deconstruct the family
For a lot of us, that was the problem. By taking the knee you are, in effect, kneeling to corrosive Marxists, who are shamelessly using race as a way to delegitimize Western self-esteem (and make lots of money for themselves)
Binface is massive in London. And is projected to beat LD.
That would be utterly humilating. The LDs control three borough councils, surely with that they can get enough first preference votes to beat Binface, even if the Greens beat them?
Why on Earth would anyone vote “Lozza”? I think we can safely ignore Leon’s attempts to pose as a sentient poster.
He'd have been my first choice in London too.
That's fairly disappointing tbh, CR. Lozza has become the worst kind of reactionary right wing rent-a-gob and has been courting anti-vaxxers. He goes well beyond "saying it how it is" and will hopefully come very close to last place.
I can't find any example of him "race baiting". Do show, I am happy to be schooled
He was very keen on the "All Lives Matter" meme in response to BLM, I recall. You may not think of this as race-baiting, though I do. It was a meme shared by many on the far, far right.
He’s a dog-whistler.
He’s “All Lives Matter”, he’s “There we’re no Sikhs in WW1”, he’s “people who say I have white privilege are RACIST”.
Then he called for a boycott of Sainsbury’s because they celebrated Black History Month.
These are in one sense banal comments, maybe even arguable case by case, but in essence he is trying to appeal to the bigot vote.
And while he probably started down this path inadvertently, he’s realised it generated a lot of attention, so he’s moving on to anti-vax flirtation and climate change scepticism.
Why on Earth would anyone vote “Lozza”? I think we can safely ignore Leon’s attempts to pose as a sentient poster.
He'd have been my first choice in London too.
That's fairly disappointing tbh, CR. Lozza has become the worst kind of reactionary right wing rent-a-gob and has been courting anti-vaxxers. He goes well beyond "saying it how it is" and will hopefully come very close to last place.
I don't agree with him on anti-vaxxers and, like Leon says, he's a bit of a dick but I do support his platform of anti-Wokeness and anti-cancel culture; I'd be buggered if I'd vote for Shaun Bailey as my first choice instead - so, it would be him.
Thankfully for you, though, I don't live in London anymore.
It's just completely irresponsible and whatever his other views are courting anti-vaxxers and validating them during a pandemic is not worthy of any votes.
I also think he's a bit scatter brained, easily distracted by the latest stupidity which has made him a reactionary rather than a visionary.
Anyway, this is London. It's the world's greatest city because people can live how they want. Wokeism simply doesn't effect my world at all, my workplace is simply immune and we've always had a policy of "if you don't like it, fuck off" which isn't going to change. My friends, family, colleagues - none of them really pay any attention to this shite, it's all "twitter nonsense" to the wider world.
My main two concerns in London are 1 - crime and 2 - housing, I think I'm in the majority in London. Wokeism or anything like that doesn't even register.
I wish it was just Twitter nonsense - sadly, in my industry it's not.
I'm jealous of you. My workplace is utterly infested with it, and it's definitely affected my career. I see it every single day, and it's getting worse. My bosses are now talking about launching "campaigns" this year that "live to their values" - ie their opinions. I had yet another awkward conversation with HR today where she was being disingenuous.
Robert Peston @Peston · 5m Tories are briefing that Labour has got its vote out in Hartlepool and is doing better than expected throughout England. I have zero idea if this is mind games or real.
Definitely expectations management from the Tories.
So, I voted Lib Dem. I'm now on the gin as I try and come to terms with it.
Do I get a free pair of sandals now from OGH or @IanB2 ?
Everyone should vote Lib Dem at least once in their life. I got it out the way nice and early in my first ever election. Went for an Indie today at ward level.
I once voted Tory. The only opponent was BNP.
Dare say I've kissed some Tories too. Don't tell Laura Pidcock.
"Some"
What? Are you some sort of secret (nerdy) lothario?
I thought life was pretty straightforward. Find a wife. Marry her. Don't kiss anyone else for 35 years and counting.
EDL candidate in our PCC election. Is that now the most common far right vehicle do we think?
The English Democrats, I did read that quite recently about 40% of their members are ex BNP.
There always manage to find a name that’s sinister. Can’t even put my finger on why I have an issue with “English Democrat”, but I do.
English Democrats have been around for ages, we used to get a few of their candidates not far from me, but nothign in over a decade. Apparently Veritas merged with them awhile back.
Could be have a PB election? That is, an election for a (ceremonial) Head of Board (or Bored if you prefer)? And possibly a PB Politburo, which solely advisory powers (until the coup d'etat)?
Sort of like elections for colonial councils back in the day, or the non-White chambers in late-Apartheid South Africa.
Say STV for Head of Board ("Grand Poobah of PB"?).
And mix of FPTP and d'Hondt (or whatever) for PB Politburo?
Might be fun! Both the results AND the betting on the results.
Why on Earth would anyone vote “Lozza”? I think we can safely ignore Leon’s attempts to pose as a sentient poster.
He'd have been my first choice in London too.
That's fairly disappointing tbh, CR. Lozza has become the worst kind of reactionary right wing rent-a-gob and has been courting anti-vaxxers. He goes well beyond "saying it how it is" and will hopefully come very close to last place.
I don't agree with him on anti-vaxxers and, like Leon says, he's a bit of a dick but I do support his platform of anti-Wokeness and anti-cancel culture; I'd be buggered if I'd vote for Shaun Bailey as my first choice instead - so, it would be him.
Thankfully for you, though, I don't live in London anymore.
It's just completely irresponsible and whatever his other views are courting anti-vaxxers and validating them during a pandemic is not worthy of any votes.
I also think he's a bit scatter brained, easily distracted by the latest stupidity which has made him a reactionary rather than a visionary.
Anyway, this is London. It's the world's greatest city because people can live how they want. Wokeism simply doesn't effect my world at all, my workplace is simply immune and we've always had a policy of "if you don't like it, fuck off" which isn't going to change. My friends, family, colleagues - none of them really pay any attention to this shite, it's all "twitter nonsense" to the wider world.
My main two concerns in London are 1 - crime and 2 - housing, I think I'm in the majority in London. Wokeism or anything like that doesn't even register.
I wish it was just Twitter nonsense - sadly, in my industry it's not.
I'm jealous of you. My workplace is utterly infested with it, and it's definitely affected my career. I see it every single day, and it's getting worse. My bosses are now talking about launching "campaigns" this year that "live to their values" - ie their opinions. I had yet another awkward conversation with HR today where she was being disingenuous.
Maybe I should come and work for you?
I have also never witnessed any workspace woke stuff, or much woke stuff anywhere at all really despite living among the lesbian yoghurt-knitters of Hackney.
There’s a lot on Twitter, but that’s full of all sorts of shit.
I find it bizarre that it seems to be blighting you.
Why on Earth would anyone vote “Lozza”? I think we can safely ignore Leon’s attempts to pose as a sentient poster.
He'd have been my first choice in London too.
That's fairly disappointing tbh, CR. Lozza has become the worst kind of reactionary right wing rent-a-gob and has been courting anti-vaxxers. He goes well beyond "saying it how it is" and will hopefully come very close to last place.
I can't find any example of him "race baiting". Do show, I am happy to be schooled
He was very keen on the "All Lives Matter" meme in response to BLM, I recall. You may not think of this as race-baiting, though I do. It was a meme shared by many on the far, far right.
He’s a dog-whistler.
He’s “All Lives Matter”, he’s “There we’re no Sikhs in WW1”, he’s “people who say I have white privilege are RACIST”.
Then he called for a boycott of Sainsbury’s because they celebrated Black History Month.
These are in one sense banal comments, maybe even arguable case by case, but in essence he is trying to appeal to the bigot vote.
And while he probably started down this path inadvertently, he’s realised it generated a lot of attention, so he’s moving on to anti-vax flirtation and climate change scepticism.
AND he’s a really shit musician.
So, no evidence of Mosleyite race-baiting, just some "arguable opinions". On the other hand, he IS a shit musician
1. There's no vacancy as leader of the Labour Party. Starmer isn't going anywhere for at least a year, even if tonight's results are horrendous. And there won't be a challenge.
2. Don't forget that Starmer won the leadership election hands down. The idea that there's any appetite for somebody like Burgon from the membership is ludicrous.
3. If Starmer were to jack it in, I'd expect both Rayner and Nandy to stand. Nandy would win, because she'd run a better, more articulate campaign and has the ability to appeal to all factions in the party apart from the far, far left who are, as can be seen from the last leader/deputy election, in retreat.
I would have agreed with you right up until the conversation where a very good source told me that she is going for him. An apocalypse-o-fuck result and then the deputy saying time's up? I agree that had a challenge come from Dicky B then it would have been laughed off. Not from Rayner.
I wonder if your very good source is as reliable as my very good sources that tell me Rayner has absolutely no intention of challenging Starmer, whatever the outcomes of today's elections. I write as a current Labour member, rather than as a Lib Dem who, understandably, seeks to slag off Labour at every opportunity.
Rayner is a loyalist to whichever leader is in power. I don't think she would make a public challenge. If Keir stood down, I do think she would stand and win.
I think she is a very canny politician and negotiator. She also knows how to put the boot in, and would be very difficult for Johnson to deal with. She comes from a completely different world to the Bullingdon boy.
She has never really been bothered by Brexit either way, and as a 2015 MP is from the next generation, not tainted by New Labour.
Robert Peston @Peston · 5m Tories are briefing that Labour has got its vote out in Hartlepool and is doing better than expected throughout England. I have zero idea if this is mind games or real.
Of course it's mind games. I've never quite bought that the parties are so good at monitoring, in real time, such a large and complex set of electoral events to the point they can leak various titbits to commentators with any confidence in their own conclusions, let alone with supreme prognosticating ability.
Ergo, any such comments are either nonsense, ramping, or expectations management.
EDL candidate in our PCC election. Is that now the most common far right vehicle do we think?
Until Lozza starts to clone himself, yes. EDIT - why are the EDL a thing still? If you want to hate foreigners why not just vote Tory like everyone else? The PM - when not dragging Carrie Antoinette to the polling station - just sent the navy after the French!
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Thankfully for you, though, I don't live in London anymore.
He really is dross.
It may be 'making it up as they go along', but it's undoubtedly the right thing to do.
I said I *would* have voted for him had I lived in London.
It's like someone on the centre-left voting for Count Binface - it sends a message.
I really stand by what I said, I guess this is what happens when you spend your time on DailyMail.co.uk
If he goes around like Tommy Robinson, fair enough. I have not seen this and I suspect you are talking out of your ample bottom
Well, Brexit has been done and Corbyn has now gone.
And they're still voting Tory.
"Newcastle United’s owner, Mike Ashley, has claimed “dark forces” are preventing the struggling Premier League club from emerging as a football superpower after HMRC quietly discontinued a long-running investigation into its tax affairs."
Yes Mike. You ARE the dark force. https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/may/06/dark-forces-preventing-newcastle-from-being-powerhouse-says-mike-ashley
Dare say I've kissed some Tories too. Don't tell Laura Pidcock.
This is my first post in almost a year I think, I was getting frustrated arguing against the lockdown. Realising all I was doing was making myself agents I decided to stop positing, didn't think it would be this long of a gap.
I see a few new posters on here, hello all!
A question, normally for local elections I can find the number of candidates each party are standing, which for some reason I find interesting, I cant seem to find those number this time, unless anybody can share a link.
But wondering will this have some impact? I'm seeing that in Hartlepool where Con look set to win the By-election they do not have candidates in half of the seats for the local council. is this isolated or more widespread, could there be LG seats that could be Tory pickups but don't even have a CON candidate?
"Perhaps not, but hopefully better informed my Lord".
From the wikipedia page we've got:
Renew Party - campaigning on UBI and support for businesses, doesn't seem likely to get a look in as too sincere for joke candidate, not big enough for serious attention
Count Binface Party - self explanatory, at least gets some attention
Burning Pink Party - campaigning on abolishing government altogether, and running things through citizen assemblies - loony, to be sure, but the right kind of loony to get attention?
Let London Live - Piers Corbyn, running on conspiracy theories about Covid-19, totally mad, and there's a crowded field on the covid denial
Reclaim - Fox's mob, anti wokeness, but that's hardly much to base it around. At least gets attention,
UKIP - Gammon. A zombie party.
Rejoin EU - campaigning on rejoining Erasmus. Some small vote for most EU friendly in the race?
Animal Welfare Party - campaigning on carbon net zero - same problem with Renew
Social Democratic Party - candidate was BXP, who knows
Heritage Party - Former UKIP assembly member. Campaigning on cycle lanes and end to buffer zones outside abortion clinics. What? Too many former UKIP/BXP to get attention
Women's Equality Party - social justice et al. Has at least minor brand recognition.
London Real Party - Rose - Covid denier apparently. Crowded field. People have at least heard name due to early attention.
And three independents.
And if so, will Caitlyn Jenner's advocacy for oppressed hangar owners possibly sway her vote?
What? Are you some sort of secret (nerdy) lothario?
He said a few mildly controversial things and got praised by the right. So he said a few more controversial things. The danger of course is eventually you become too controversial and end up like Katie Hopkins or James Delingpole
I don't know what he's said on race so won't criticise him on that, but for the antivaxx nonsense alone he should be beyond the pale. Sorry CR, I really respect you a lot, so I have to say it.
"The Labour candidate for mayor of London was under pressure last night after it emerged that he complained to MPs about the demonisation of a hardline Islamic cleric.
"Sadiq Khan objected to the treatment of Yusuf al-Qaradawi, who had called for the destruction of Jews and the death penalty for homosexuals.
"Mr Khan, as chairman of legal affairs at the Muslim Council of Britain, gave evidence to the home affairs select committee’s inquiry into community relations in 2004 when he was a Labour councillor in the London borough of Wandsworth."
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/sadiq-khan-supported-islamist-cleric-jwxdvnjdb
He also defended, as a solicitor, the Nation of Islam and Louis Farrakhan
https://fullfact.org/online/sadiq-khan-nation-of-islam/
And yet some third drawer actor like Lozza Fox is the one we should all worry about? Rather than the actual MAYOR?
I also think he's a bit scatter brained, easily distracted by the latest stupidity which has made him a reactionary rather than a visionary.
Anyway, this is London. It's the world's greatest city because people can live how they want. Wokeism simply doesn't effect my world at all, my workplace is simply immune and we've always had a policy of "if you don't like it, fuck off" which isn't going to change. My friends, family, colleagues - none of them really pay any attention to this shite, it's all "twitter nonsense" to the wider world.
My main two concerns in London are 1 - crime and 2 - housing, I think I'm in the majority in London. Wokeism or anything like that doesn't even register.
Your underlying premise is nonetheless bogus.
Another way to do it is to vote Lib Dem, as I did today, but that's pro-Woke and only from the libertarian centre. Hence why my vote was half-hearted and partly spoilt.
I'd prefer to send a message on both, so in London I'd exercise my choice differently - it's entirely legitimate.
No-one else left to ring.
Or, most intriguing of all (in more ways than one) Anna Soubry?
There's been some cracking wit on here today.
Maybe it's election day. Brings out the best in us and sharpens all our pencils.
Heart of stone etc....
That could be like EU vaccination on steroids, long term.
Maybe one day you'll get tired of being wrong.
If, on the other hand, you hear the phrase in the context of "of course, all lives matter equally, but historically society has acted as if black lives do not matter, so when we say black lives matter, we are asserting that they do indeed matter as much as any other life" then the BLM phrase is not offensive, and indeed it is offensive not to agree with that sentiment.
But at the same time, you can't ignore the fact that:
1. The Tories did in fact deliver Brexit. And the Labour Party put up a vocal "Peoples Vote" Remainer in one of the most Brexity seats in the country. Which was - to put it generously - an odd decision.
2. Boris Johnson's government has delivered vaccines!
I'm not saying it's not meaningful. I'm saying that Philip's analysis overstates how meaningful it is.
Or else incur the Wrath of Khan....
The old Labour party is now the Johnsonite Tory party. Johnson's political platform is what Labour's used to be. Contrary to that, Starmer's Labour party is what the Tories used to be. The labels have changed, the politics have not.
They're voting Tory because the Tories offer what Labour used to offer. They're rejecting Labour because they represent what the Tories used to represent.
And then you go on the Official Black Lives Matter website and you realise they are a Marxist cult that hates the police and wants to deconstruct the family
For a lot of us, that was the problem. By taking the knee you are, in effect, kneeling to corrosive Marxists, who are shamelessly using race as a way to delegitimize Western self-esteem (and make lots of money for themselves)
Official BLM are also anti-Semitic. Of course
He’s “All Lives Matter”, he’s “There we’re no Sikhs in WW1”, he’s “people who say I have white privilege are RACIST”.
Then he called for a boycott of Sainsbury’s because they celebrated Black History Month.
These are in one sense banal comments, maybe even arguable case by case, but in essence he is trying to appeal to the bigot vote.
And while he probably started down this path inadvertently, he’s realised it generated a lot of attention, so he’s moving on to anti-vax flirtation and climate change scepticism.
AND he’s a really shit musician.
I'm jealous of you. My workplace is utterly infested with it, and it's definitely affected my career. I see it every single day, and it's getting worse. My bosses are now talking about launching "campaigns" this year that "live to their values" - ie their opinions. I had yet another awkward conversation with HR today where she was being disingenuous.
Maybe I should come and work for you?
"1/4 of the labour promises I’ve spoken to is voting not labour (most likely Street)"
https://vote-2012.proboards.com/thread/13672/west-midlands?page=13
When you do, you'll find the way - and you'll feel much more comfortable with yourself.
Works for me.
Sort of like elections for colonial councils back in the day, or the non-White chambers in late-Apartheid South Africa.
Say STV for Head of Board ("Grand Poobah of PB"?).
And mix of FPTP and d'Hondt (or whatever) for PB Politburo?
Might be fun! Both the results AND the betting on the results.
There’s a lot on Twitter, but that’s full of all sorts of shit.
I find it bizarre that it seems to be blighting you.
Oh-kay
I think she is a very canny politician and negotiator. She also knows how to put the boot in, and would be very difficult for Johnson to deal with. She comes from a completely different world to the Bullingdon boy.
She has never really been bothered by Brexit either way, and as a 2015 MP is from the next generation, not tainted by New Labour.
Ergo, any such comments are either nonsense, ramping, or expectations management.
How do people understand what you say?
'Always look on the bright side of life..'