We certainly already have beavers and birds of prey. There was a breeding pair of red kite in my village a few years ago. Introducing lynx has been proposed for Kielder. It was very controversial.
The most unselfaware metro thread header there’s ever been on Pb. Has TSE really never sat and watched a graceful bird of prey in the Uk skies?
Or travelled to and safely returned home from Spain, Greece, Italy, Finland or Croatia, all European countries with wild wolf populations?
Just wait till they get so common they're eating dog shite and discarded burgers in Shepherd's Bush and Borough High Street like the good old mediaeval plague-ridden days ...
SNH as was was doing reafforestation on Rum NNR back in the late 1970s - already a huge improvement when I revisited ca 1990 - so I am a tad sceptical about claims of that ilk (showing the agencies ...). Not least because deer and forest clearance were identified as problems long, long ago (Fraser Darling).
But good to see it done whoever.
Rum still has a lot of deer. I can't remember seeing much natural regeneration when I was last there (10 years ago maybe), particularly on the uplands, although there had no doubt been some planting.
At Glen Feshie they have taken to shooting _all_ the deer - or at least all the deer that they can find - without trying to maintain a 'balance'. NTS have kept much higher numbers on the other side of the Cairngorms on the Mar estate, and you can see large herds in the winter on the Dee. It does make a difference.
Decades ago I read a short science fiction story (can't remember by whom) about an alien reconnaissance ship landing somewhere in Canada or Alaska and immediately encountering a Grizzly just out of hibernation whereupon they recommended that Earth be quarantined.
But I might add that Homo "Sapiens" is by far the most dangerous species on Earth.
When Lewis & Clark set out on their famous expedition, they recorded in their journals, that the natives told tales of huge, aggressive bears found in the western mountains. Obviously exaggerated they wrote & thought - until they actually encountered one of the critters.
Upon which one of the explorers fired his gun at it. Which only served to piss the beast off, and come running FAST at his attacker.
Luckily there was others with guns about (they were armed with single-shot muzzle-loaders) as it took multiple bullets to dispatch the first - but not last - grizzly bear they'd ever laid eyes on.
SNH as was was doing reafforestation on Rum NNR back in the late 1970s - already a huge improvement when I revisited ca 1990 - so I am a tad sceptical about claims of that ilk (showing the agencies ...). Not least because deer and forest clearance were identified as problems long, long ago (Fraser Darling).
But good to see it done whoever.
Rum still has a lot of deer. I can't remember seeing much natural regeneration when I was last there (10 years ago maybe), particularly on the uplands, although there had no doubt been some planting.
At Glen Feshie they have taken to shooting _all_ the deer - or at least all the deer that they can find - without trying to maintain a 'balance'. NTS have kept much higher numbers on the other side of the Cairngorms on the Mar estate, and you can see large herds in the winter on the Dee. It does make a difference.
Oh, quite. I can well believe it. I'm not familiar with the case and the plans but to my mind the obvious question is what happens in the longer run if there are no herbivores. You'd end up with a choked climax forest with localised storm clearings. If it were Australia it'd be a frightening fire risk.
At least when I was on Rum the deer were completely excluded from large areas of the island. Thinking back, and digging it up from memory, the intent was to let the woodland regenerate till the trees could survive with deer around and then see what happened - the Red Deer being primitively a woodland species of old. I must look it up to see how things are going now.
Not intentionally. But I was going 50mph, it was prevaricating in the middle of the road, I couldn't swerve to avoid it (oncoming traffic) and nor could I do an emergency stop with cars behind me - so I sounded the horn repeatedly hoping it might move.
It didn't.
They are the dumbest birds out there.
Not their fault. They are dumped in huge numbers into unknown environments. Indigenous pheasants, where they exist, are as sensible as any other bird.
I think there are no indigenous pheasants. They were introduced by the Romans.
"However Johnson, who has had the same phone number for more than a decade, was reluctant to change it and rejected the advice. A Whitehall source said the extent of the contact was a consistent cause for concern among officials."
What the hardest mammal - i.e. would be certain to beat any other mammal on earth in unarmed combat?
My money is on the tiger.
Bull elephant or killer whale.
A tour guide in Tanzania told me the Cape Buffalo were the most dangerous to humans, mainly to people who took them for oversized cattle.
I think Hippos are pretty dangerous too. They are always tipping over canoes, and most Africans cannot swim, so drown. Never get between a Hippo and the water either.
SNH as was was doing reafforestation on Rum NNR back in the late 1970s - already a huge improvement when I revisited ca 1990 - so I am a tad sceptical about claims of that ilk (showing the agencies ...). Not least because deer and forest clearance were identified as problems long, long ago (Fraser Darling).
But good to see it done whoever.
Rum still has a lot of deer. I can't remember seeing much natural regeneration when I was last there (10 years ago maybe), particularly on the uplands, although there had no doubt been some planting.
At Glen Feshie they have taken to shooting _all_ the deer - or at least all the deer that they can find - without trying to maintain a 'balance'. NTS have kept much higher numbers on the other side of the Cairngorms on the Mar estate, and you can see large herds in the winter on the Dee. It does make a difference.
Oh, quite. I can well believe it. I'm not familiar with the case and the plans but to my mind the obvious question is what happens in the longer run if there are no herbivores. You'd end up with a choked climax forest with localised storm clearings. If it were Australia it'd be a frightening fire risk.
At least when I was on Rum the deer were completely excluded from large areas of the island. Thinking back, and digging it up from memory, the intent was to let the woodland regenerate till the trees could survive with deer around and then see what happened - the Red Deer being primitively a woodland species of old. I must look it up to see how things are going now.
Me too
I don't think climax forest is a worry for a loooong time, though.
I sometimes wonder what would happen if the land was abandoned entirely. We've introduced a lot of Sitka spruce in plantations and the climate is very similar in Scotland to the parts of the US where it grows natively. Left alone it is a spectacular tree. I wonder if it would 'go native' and the western woods would eventually turn into stands of Sitka and Douglas Fir? I once found a Sitka growing at 3000ft in Glencoe and no man had planted it there...
SNH as was was doing reafforestation on Rum NNR back in the late 1970s - already a huge improvement when I revisited ca 1990 - so I am a tad sceptical about claims of that ilk (showing the agencies ...). Not least because deer and forest clearance were identified as problems long, long ago (Fraser Darling).
But good to see it done whoever.
Rum still has a lot of deer. I can't remember seeing much natural regeneration when I was last there (10 years ago maybe), particularly on the uplands, although there had no doubt been some planting.
At Glen Feshie they have taken to shooting _all_ the deer - or at least all the deer that they can find - without trying to maintain a 'balance'. NTS have kept much higher numbers on the other side of the Cairngorms on the Mar estate, and you can see large herds in the winter on the Dee. It does make a difference.
PS You wouldn't get trees on the uplands of Rum, anyway, any more than in the Sahara. In Fraser Darling's memorable words, it's a "wet desert". As I recvall, only good for sundews, flies and geologists, and scenic walks.
Not intentionally. But I was going 50mph, it was prevaricating in the middle of the road, I couldn't swerve to avoid it (oncoming traffic) and nor could I do an emergency stop with cars behind me - so I sounded the horn repeatedly hoping it might move.
It didn't.
They are the dumbest birds out there.
Not their fault. They are dumped in huge numbers into unknown environments. Indigenous pheasants, where they exist, are as sensible as any other bird.
I think there are no indigenous pheasants. They were introduced by the Romans.
Meaning indigenous to their own area, born and bred wild, not introduced as bought-in poults.
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Can any PB Tories text BJ to ask him to change his mind
What the hardest mammal - i.e. would be certain to beat any other mammal on earth in unarmed combat?
My money is on the tiger.
A big male kodiak would take some beating.
In the water, a leopard seal is pretty formidable.
Indeed. Curious thing is they have tricuspid shrimp-sieving molar teeth - obviously a part of the diet (but with all that krill around it's sensible, I imagine).
PS Yep, here it is - those humomgous canines and fiddly molars.
Whilst not sure of the seriousness of the header , it is always a point to remember in polls like this that 95% of people surveyed will probably not give a toss either way and therefore not be inclined to think deeply about it but just say yes or no because they are surveyed . For instance being a lover of gothic culture ,i might say (if surveyed) that I think all graveyards should be styled in the gothic style but am not going to "die in a ditch" about it (slight pun intended)
SNH as was was doing reafforestation on Rum NNR back in the late 1970s - already a huge improvement when I revisited ca 1990 - so I am a tad sceptical about claims of that ilk (showing the agencies ...). Not least because deer and forest clearance were identified as problems long, long ago (Fraser Darling).
But good to see it done whoever.
Rum still has a lot of deer. I can't remember seeing much natural regeneration when I was last there (10 years ago maybe), particularly on the uplands, although there had no doubt been some planting.
At Glen Feshie they have taken to shooting _all_ the deer - or at least all the deer that they can find - without trying to maintain a 'balance'. NTS have kept much higher numbers on the other side of the Cairngorms on the Mar estate, and you can see large herds in the winter on the Dee. It does make a difference.
PS You wouldn't get trees on the uplands of Rum, anyway, any more than in the Sahara. In Fraser Darling's memorable words, it's a "wet desert". As I recvall, only good for sundews, flies and geologists, and scenic walks.
You would get trees, but very low ones. Woolly willow, Net-leaved willow, Dwarf birch. Not 'forest' in the normal sense, no, but trees nonetheless.
The upland willows are currently rare species in Scotland due to overgrazing.
If you ever try to climb hills in western Norway in the late summer, you'll encounter nightmare thickets of willow scrub in places, and I don't see why Scotland shouldn't be the same.
Decades ago I read a short science fiction story (can't remember by whom) about an alien reconnaissance ship landing somewhere in Canada or Alaska and immediately encountering a Grizzly just out of hibernation whereupon they recommended that Earth be quarantined.
But I might add that Homo "Sapiens" is by far the most dangerous species on Earth.
When Lewis & Clark set out on their famous expedition, they recorded in their journals, that the natives told tales of huge, aggressive bears found in the western mountains. Obviously exaggerated they wrote & thought - until they actually encountered one of the critters.
Upon which one of the explorers fired his gun at it. Which only served to piss the beast off, and come running FAST at his attacker.
Luckily there was others with guns about (they were armed with single-shot muzzle-loaders) as it took multiple bullets to dispatch the first - but not last - grizzly bear they'd ever laid eyes on.
Brown bears are scary enough. In my teens a few of us would travel in late summer to the Quetico area in the Minnesota--Canada region for a couple of weeks canoe camping. There are no roads but many lakes sometimes joined by portaging. You can drink the lake water and fish abound(ed). Watching the occasional Aurora Borealis of an evening lying on a rock slab on a lake's edge is memorable. One year the berry crop (or something) had failed so for our first time we were plagued by brown bears. If we went to an island to avoid them they still turned up looking for food and salt too I think.
The rule to never have food in one's tent nor did we But one of us smoked and had a carton of cigarettes in his pack in the (communal) tent. Bears' claws are razer sharp and one of the critters sniffed it out with a radar nose: It made slit through the canvas on the pack and decided that it was not edible and sauntered off whereupon a chum who was lying on his air mattress in that same tent with a bad stomach exploded out of it ashen faced.
Whilst not sure of the seriousness of the header , it is always a point to remember in polls like this that 95% of people surveyed will probably not give a toss either way and therefore not be inclined to think deeply about it but just say yes or no because they are surveyed . For instance being a lover of gothic culture ,i might say (if surveyed) that I think all graveyards should be styled in the gothic style but am not going to "die in a ditch" about it (slight pun intended)
I was so puzzled by those 'birds of prey' and 'waders' that I checked.
The question does qualify with 'extinct in the UK', specimen species quoted, etc but I saw white-tailed sea eagles in Scotland on Rum and Eigg decades ago so why ask? Same with the beavers etc. They're either extinct or not. 'Continuing their reintroduction' yes, but ...
In some Natural History section of a museum (might be Liverpool) i remember being intrigued by a handle to pull to reveal the worlds most dangerous animal only for it to reveal a mirror. Thought it a bit wanky tbh !!
Whilst not sure of the seriousness of the header , it is always a point to remember in polls like this that 95% of people surveyed will probably not give a toss either way and therefore not be inclined to think deeply about it but just say yes or no because they are surveyed . For instance being a lover of gothic culture ,i might say (if surveyed) that I think all graveyards should be styled in the gothic style but am not going to "die in a ditch" about it (slight pun intended)
I was so puzzled by those 'birds of prey' and 'waders' that I checked.
The question does qualify with 'extinct in the UK', specimen species quoted, etc but I saw white-tailed sea eagles in Scotland on Rum and Eigg decades ago so why ask? Same with the beavers etc. They're either extinct or not. 'Continuing their reintroduction' yes, but ...
Yes, I didn't quite understand 'waders' or 'birds of prey' either. I suppose Red kites have been reintroduced albeit that they never quite died out.
Mind you, there was a wild Lammergeier not very far from TSE last summer. Quite a sight it was, too...
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What a fascinating and varied discussion, sparked by a wonky TSE post! So typical of PB.
Must say I'm impressed by number of PBers with personal acquaintance with wilder parts of North America, not to mention Europe and its obscure off-shore islands.
Heck, even TSE has ventured to some of the wilder parts of WA State! Like the lawn below the Space Needle?
What the hardest mammal - i.e. would be certain to beat any other mammal on earth in unarmed combat?
My money is on the tiger.
Bull elephant or killer whale.
A tour guide in Tanzania told me the Cape Buffalo were the most dangerous to humans, mainly to people who took them for oversized cattle.
I think Hippos are pretty dangerous too. They are always tipping over canoes, and most Africans cannot swim, so drown. Never get between a Hippo and the water either.
IIRC, more tourists in Africa are killed by Hippos than by crocdiles. People know that crocs are dangerous and stay away from them. Hippos, OTOH are just an African water-cow...
Whilst not sure of the seriousness of the header , it is always a point to remember in polls like this that 95% of people surveyed will probably not give a toss either way and therefore not be inclined to think deeply about it but just say yes or no because they are surveyed . For instance being a lover of gothic culture ,i might say (if surveyed) that I think all graveyards should be styled in the gothic style but am not going to "die in a ditch" about it (slight pun intended)
I was so puzzled by those 'birds of prey' and 'waders' that I checked.
The question does qualify with 'extinct in the UK', specimen species quoted, etc but I saw white-tailed sea eagles in Scotland on Rum and Eigg decades ago so why ask? Same with the beavers etc. They're either extinct or not. 'Continuing their reintroduction' yes, but ...
Yes, I didn't quite understand 'waders' or 'birds of prey' either. I suppose Red kites have been reintroduced albeit that they never quite died out.
Mind you, there was a wild Lammergeier not very far from TSE last summer. Quite a sight it was, too...
A zoologist friend and I once went up to Muckle Flugga (north end of Shetland, for those who don't know) to see if the resident Wandering Albatross (which had rather lost his way in equatorial waters) was At Home. He wasn't, alas, but lots of gannets and puffins!
What a fascinating and varied discussion, sparked by a wonky TSE post! So typical of PB.
Must say I'm impressed by number of PBers with personal acquaintance with wilder parts of North America, not to mention Europe and its obscure off-shore islands.
Heck, even TSE has ventured to some of the wilder parts of WA State! Like the lawn below the Space Needle?
Blue River BC has a great brown bear water safari, where you can fairly safely watch them fishing from a little speedboat.
What a fascinating and varied discussion, sparked by a wonky TSE post! So typical of PB.
Must say I'm impressed by number of PBers with personal acquaintance with wilder parts of North America, not to mention Europe and its obscure off-shore islands.
Heck, even TSE has ventured to some of the wilder parts of WA State! Like the lawn below the Space Needle?
Aah. Complete with Naked Mole Rat colony [edit: in the building next door, admittedly]. Happy memories of skiving off from a conference.
What a fascinating and varied discussion, sparked by a wonky TSE post! So typical of PB.
Must say I'm impressed by number of PBers with personal acquaintance with wilder parts of North America, not to mention Europe and its obscure off-shore islands.
Heck, even TSE has ventured to some of the wilder parts of WA State! Like the lawn below the Space Needle?
Blue River BC has a great brown bear water safari, where you can fairly safely watch them fishing from a little speedboat.
I'm very impressed that they can hold the little fiddly toggle to start the Evinrude outboard. What wuith their claws tending to cut the cord too.
What the hardest mammal - i.e. would be certain to beat any other mammal on earth in unarmed combat?
My money is on the tiger.
Bull elephant or killer whale.
A tour guide in Tanzania told me the Cape Buffalo were the most dangerous to humans, mainly to people who took them for oversized cattle.
I think Hippos are pretty dangerous too. They are always tipping over canoes, and most Africans cannot swim, so drown. Never get between a Hippo and the water either.
IIRC, more tourists in Africa are killed by Hippos than by crocdiles. People know that crocs are dangerous and stay away from them. Hippos, OTOH are just an African water-cow...
I have sailed a dinghy on Lake Naivasha and was a bit shaken to realise that the large brown water lilies were actually the tops of hippo heads. An incentive not to capsize.
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Sad Premier League that nobody wants to be in there.
The bad thing too is that most of those countries only have data until January and February too. None of them get up to April like the UK's does.
The UK, USA and Brazil are tied for 21st under there essentially but with the UK's data a month later - given the scenes coming out of Brazil its likely only a matter of time until they go further up the list unfortunately.
Not intentionally. But I was going 50mph, it was prevaricating in the middle of the road, I couldn't swerve to avoid it (oncoming traffic) and nor could I do an emergency stop with cars behind me - so I sounded the horn repeatedly hoping it might move.
It didn't.
Misread that at first, glossing over the letter “h” in the penultimate word of your first sentence.
Whilst not sure of the seriousness of the header , it is always a point to remember in polls like this that 95% of people surveyed will probably not give a toss either way and therefore not be inclined to think deeply about it but just say yes or no because they are surveyed . For instance being a lover of gothic culture ,i might say (if surveyed) that I think all graveyards should be styled in the gothic style but am not going to "die in a ditch" about it (slight pun intended)
I was so puzzled by those 'birds of prey' and 'waders' that I checked.
The question does qualify with 'extinct in the UK', specimen species quoted, etc but I saw white-tailed sea eagles in Scotland on Rum and Eigg decades ago so why ask? Same with the beavers etc. They're either extinct or not. 'Continuing their reintroduction' yes, but ...
I mean if we're gonna do it properly, I'd go all the way and build an ice age version of Jurassic Park on the Isle of Man. Sabre tooth cat, wooly mammoth and rhino, have a few neanderthal walking about selling donuts. I'd pay to go there.
What a fascinating and varied discussion, sparked by a wonky TSE post! So typical of PB.
Must say I'm impressed by number of PBers with personal acquaintance with wilder parts of North America, not to mention Europe and its obscure off-shore islands.
Heck, even TSE has ventured to some of the wilder parts of WA State! Like the lawn below the Space Needle?
I spent ages at the Space Needle trying to work out where Frasier Crane's apartment building was.
What a fascinating and varied discussion, sparked by a wonky TSE post! So typical of PB.
Must say I'm impressed by number of PBers with personal acquaintance with wilder parts of North America, not to mention Europe and its obscure off-shore islands.
Heck, even TSE has ventured to some of the wilder parts of WA State! Like the lawn below the Space Needle?
I spent ages at the Space Needle trying to work out where Frasier Crane's apartment building was.
Turns out it doesn't exist.
I’ll be honest that it took me quite a while to realise it was filmed in a studio, so good was the view.
Whilst not sure of the seriousness of the header , it is always a point to remember in polls like this that 95% of people surveyed will probably not give a toss either way and therefore not be inclined to think deeply about it but just say yes or no because they are surveyed . For instance being a lover of gothic culture ,i might say (if surveyed) that I think all graveyards should be styled in the gothic style but am not going to "die in a ditch" about it (slight pun intended)
I was so puzzled by those 'birds of prey' and 'waders' that I checked.
The question does qualify with 'extinct in the UK', specimen species quoted, etc but I saw white-tailed sea eagles in Scotland on Rum and Eigg decades ago so why ask? Same with the beavers etc. They're either extinct or not. 'Continuing their reintroduction' yes, but ...
I mean if we're gonna do it properly, I'd go all the way and build an ice age version of Jurassic Park on the Isle of Man. Sabre tooth cat, wooly mammoth and rhino, have a few neanderthal walking about selling donuts. I'd pay to go there.
Makes me think of the creationist Jurassic Park in 'Night Sessions' by Ken Macleod with a Presbyterian robotic Australopithecine ...
What the hardest mammal - i.e. would be certain to beat any other mammal on earth in unarmed combat?
My money is on the tiger.
Bull elephant or killer whale.
A tour guide in Tanzania told me the Cape Buffalo were the most dangerous to humans, mainly to people who took them for oversized cattle.
I think Hippos are pretty dangerous too. They are always tipping over canoes, and most Africans cannot swim, so drown. Never get between a Hippo and the water either.
IIRC, more tourists in Africa are killed by Hippos than by crocdiles. People know that crocs are dangerous and stay away from them. Hippos, OTOH are just an African water-cow...
I have sailed a dinghy on Lake Naivasha and was a bit shaken to realise that the large brown water lilies were actually the tops of hippo heads. An incentive not to capsize.
A bit further up the rift valley at lake Bogoria I was in a motor canoe with half a dozen other tourists. The skipper took us a bit too close to a hippo with young. It leapt out of the water, sufficiently that we could see the lowest part of the belly. The splash was awesome, and it was hard to keep the canoe upright. We decided that we had got enough photos, so gingerly backed away.
Very few animals anywhere kill humans deliberately, it being mostly accidental. It is humans that kill humans deliberately.
Whilst not sure of the seriousness of the header , it is always a point to remember in polls like this that 95% of people surveyed will probably not give a toss either way and therefore not be inclined to think deeply about it but just say yes or no because they are surveyed . For instance being a lover of gothic culture ,i might say (if surveyed) that I think all graveyards should be styled in the gothic style but am not going to "die in a ditch" about it (slight pun intended)
I was so puzzled by those 'birds of prey' and 'waders' that I checked.
The question does qualify with 'extinct in the UK', specimen species quoted, etc but I saw white-tailed sea eagles in Scotland on Rum and Eigg decades ago so why ask? Same with the beavers etc. They're either extinct or not. 'Continuing their reintroduction' yes, but ...
I mean if we're gonna do it properly, I'd go all the way and build an ice age version of Jurassic Park on the Isle of Man. Sabre tooth cat, wooly mammoth and rhino, have a few neanderthal walking about selling donuts. I'd pay to go there.
Makes me think of the creationist Jurassic Park in 'Night Sessions' by Ken Macleod with a Presbyterian robotic Australopithecine ...
Sounds like the start of 2001. Was a real shock watching that movie for the first time. All I really knew going in was about Hal 9000 and the spaceships with the Blue Danube Waltz. And there we were watching a bunch of people in very fake monkey costumes bugger about for what felt like an hour.
What a fascinating and varied discussion, sparked by a wonky TSE post! So typical of PB.
Must say I'm impressed by number of PBers with personal acquaintance with wilder parts of North America, not to mention Europe and its obscure off-shore islands.
Heck, even TSE has ventured to some of the wilder parts of WA State! Like the lawn below the Space Needle?
I spent ages at the Space Needle trying to work out where Frasier Crane's apartment building was.
Not intentionally. But I was going 50mph, it was prevaricating in the middle of the road, I couldn't swerve to avoid it (oncoming traffic) and nor could I do an emergency stop with cars behind me - so I sounded the horn repeatedly hoping it might move.
It didn't.
Misread that at first, glossing over the letter “h” in the penultimate word of your first sentence.
My eyebrows did rise rather precipitously.
Reminds me of my favourite tongue twister:
I'm not a pheasant plucker I'm the pheasant pluckers mate I'm busy plucking pheasants Because the pheasant pluckers late
Say it out loud three times fast (probably best to do while not reading it)
What a fascinating and varied discussion, sparked by a wonky TSE post! So typical of PB.
Must say I'm impressed by number of PBers with personal acquaintance with wilder parts of North America, not to mention Europe and its obscure off-shore islands.
Heck, even TSE has ventured to some of the wilder parts of WA State! Like the lawn below the Space Needle?
I spent ages at the Space Needle trying to work out where Frasier Crane's apartment building was.
Turns out it doesn't exist.
I’ll be honest that it took me quite a while to realise it was filmed in a studio, so good was the view.
Ironic, in that the view from Frasier Crane's apartment was the most authentically "Seattle" part of the whole show.
Which otherwise was NY TV producer stereotypical view of city they knew nothing about and cared less.
Just like American sitcom allegedly about any city west of the Hudson or east of Pasadena.
For example, has ANYONE ever been to a Seattle coffeeshop where they bring your coffee to your table? NO!
AND is it ALWAYS raining in Seattle? No again. (though we keep THAT to ourselves, as it helps discourage the riff-raff).
AND does everyone in Seattle carry an umbrella? NOOOOO. In fact, that is a sign that you are either a tourist OR just got off the bus.
Still remember the local hoots of derision, when someone on the show referred to a week-end get-away to Lake Chelan. Because THEY pronounced last syllable to rhyme with "lawn" whereas WE say it to rhyme with "Anne".
Nevertheless, folks in the Emerald City loved the show in its prime (the final years were dreck) just like everyone else. And more so, because it was (allegedly) about Our Fair City.
What a fascinating and varied discussion, sparked by a wonky TSE post! So typical of PB.
Must say I'm impressed by number of PBers with personal acquaintance with wilder parts of North America, not to mention Europe and its obscure off-shore islands.
Heck, even TSE has ventured to some of the wilder parts of WA State! Like the lawn below the Space Needle?
I spent ages at the Space Needle trying to work out where Frasier Crane's apartment building was.
Don't know if that's because their numbers are increasing or somehow covid related.
Alpacas are becoming quite common as well.
A couple of young ones crossed the road in front of me last week, following a culvert. It was a B road in the middle of the day. They are being culled. So venison is not deer.
What a fascinating and varied discussion, sparked by a wonky TSE post! So typical of PB.
Must say I'm impressed by number of PBers with personal acquaintance with wilder parts of North America, not to mention Europe and its obscure off-shore islands.
Heck, even TSE has ventured to some of the wilder parts of WA State! Like the lawn below the Space Needle?
I spent ages at the Space Needle trying to work out where Frasier Crane's apartment building was.
Turns out it doesn't exist.
I’ll be honest that it took me quite a while to realise it was filmed in a studio, so good was the view.
Ironic, in that the view from Frasier Crane's apartment was the most authentically "Seattle" part of the whole show.
Which otherwise was NY TV producer stereotypical view of city they knew nothing about and cared less.
Just like American sitcom allegedly about any city west of the Hudson or east of Pasadena.
For example, has ANYONE ever been to a Seattle coffeeshop where they bring your coffee to your table? NO!
AND is it ALWAYS raining in Seattle? No again. (though we keep THAT to ourselves, as it helps discourage the riff-raff).
AND does everyone in Seattle carry an umbrella? NOOOOO. In fact, that is a sign that you are either a tourist OR just got off the bus.
Still remember the local hoots of derision, when someone on the show referred to a week-end get-away to Lake Chelan. Because THEY pronounced last syllable to rhyme with "lawn" whereas WE say it to rhyme with "Anne".
Nevertheless, folks in the Emerald City loved the show in its prime (the final years were dreck) just like everyone else. And more so, because it was (allegedly) about Our Fair City.
My view of Seattle is from Grey's Anatomy: A nice enough city but not one I'd love to live in as its struck by some form of disaster every year - plane crashes, ferry boats crashing, gunmen rampaging etc
Actually the last one seems representative of every city in America.
SNH as was was doing reafforestation on Rum NNR back in the late 1970s - already a huge improvement when I revisited ca 1990 - so I am a tad sceptical about claims of that ilk (showing the agencies ...). Not least because deer and forest clearance were identified as problems long, long ago (Fraser Darling).
But good to see it done whoever.
Rum still has a lot of deer. I can't remember seeing much natural regeneration when I was last there (10 years ago maybe), particularly on the uplands, although there had no doubt been some planting.
At Glen Feshie they have taken to shooting _all_ the deer - or at least all the deer that they can find - without trying to maintain a 'balance'. NTS have kept much higher numbers on the other side of the Cairngorms on the Mar estate, and you can see large herds in the winter on the Dee. It does make a difference.
PS You wouldn't get trees on the uplands of Rum, anyway, any more than in the Sahara. In Fraser Darling's memorable words, it's a "wet desert". As I recvall, only good for sundews, flies and geologists, and scenic walks.
You'd think an island called "Rum" would also be good for, er, rum?
Don't know if that's because their numbers are increasing or somehow covid related.
Alpacas are becoming quite common as well.
A couple of young ones crossed the road in front of me last week, following a culvert. It was a B road in the middle of the day. They are being culled. So venison is not deer.
Venison might not be deer, but if you want cheep then stick to birds...
What a fascinating and varied discussion, sparked by a wonky TSE post! So typical of PB.
Must say I'm impressed by number of PBers with personal acquaintance with wilder parts of North America, not to mention Europe and its obscure off-shore islands.
Heck, even TSE has ventured to some of the wilder parts of WA State! Like the lawn below the Space Needle?
I spent ages at the Space Needle trying to work out where Frasier Crane's apartment building was.
Turns out it doesn't exist.
That's just what Sideshow Bob would want you to think
Not intentionally. But I was going 50mph, it was prevaricating in the middle of the road, I couldn't swerve to avoid it (oncoming traffic) and nor could I do an emergency stop with cars behind me - so I sounded the horn repeatedly hoping it might move.
It didn't.
Misread that at first, glossing over the letter “h” in the penultimate word of your first sentence.
What a fascinating and varied discussion, sparked by a wonky TSE post! So typical of PB.
Must say I'm impressed by number of PBers with personal acquaintance with wilder parts of North America, not to mention Europe and its obscure off-shore islands.
Heck, even TSE has ventured to some of the wilder parts of WA State! Like the lawn below the Space Needle?
I spent ages at the Space Needle trying to work out where Frasier Crane's apartment building was.
Turns out it doesn't exist.
I’ll be honest that it took me quite a while to realise it was filmed in a studio, so good was the view.
Ironic, in that the view from Frasier Crane's apartment was the most authentically "Seattle" part of the whole show.
Which otherwise was NY TV producer stereotypical view of city they knew nothing about and cared less.
Just like American sitcom allegedly about any city west of the Hudson or east of Pasadena.
For example, has ANYONE ever been to a Seattle coffeeshop where they bring your coffee to your table? NO!
AND is it ALWAYS raining in Seattle? No again. (though we keep THAT to ourselves, as it helps discourage the riff-raff).
AND does everyone in Seattle carry an umbrella? NOOOOO. In fact, that is a sign that you are either a tourist OR just got off the bus.
Still remember the local hoots of derision, when someone on the show referred to a week-end get-away to Lake Chelan. Because THEY pronounced last syllable to rhyme with "lawn" whereas WE say it to rhyme with "Anne".
Nevertheless, folks in the Emerald City loved the show in its prime (the final years were dreck) just like everyone else. And more so, because it was (allegedly) about Our Fair City.
My view of Seattle is from Grey's Anatomy: A nice enough city but not one I'd love to live in as its struck by some form of disaster every year - plane crashes, ferry boats crashing, gunmen rampaging etc
Actually the last one seems representative of every city in America.
The most beautiful city in the world. Not for its architecture but rather the natural setting.
Walking through most residential areas (such as my hood) is like walking though a garden, thanks to all the trees, flowers, etc., etc. Truly amazing on a day like today (Sunny Temp mid 70s F).
Mountains, or rather two mountain ranges - Cascades to east, Olympics to the west - and two volcanoes (Mt Rainier to south, Mt Baker to north).
Plus Puget Sound, a saltwater fjord, and glacial freshwater Lake Washington. And that just (some) of the waters within city limits.
SNH as was was doing reafforestation on Rum NNR back in the late 1970s - already a huge improvement when I revisited ca 1990 - so I am a tad sceptical about claims of that ilk (showing the agencies ...). Not least because deer and forest clearance were identified as problems long, long ago (Fraser Darling).
But good to see it done whoever.
Rum still has a lot of deer. I can't remember seeing much natural regeneration when I was last there (10 years ago maybe), particularly on the uplands, although there had no doubt been some planting.
At Glen Feshie they have taken to shooting _all_ the deer - or at least all the deer that they can find - without trying to maintain a 'balance'. NTS have kept much higher numbers on the other side of the Cairngorms on the Mar estate, and you can see large herds in the winter on the Dee. It does make a difference.
PS You wouldn't get trees on the uplands of Rum, anyway, any more than in the Sahara. In Fraser Darling's memorable words, it's a "wet desert". As I recvall, only good for sundews, flies and geologists, and scenic walks.
You'd think an island called "Rum" would also be good for, er, rum?
Rùm as a name is actually either Gaelic or (like most of its hills) Norse (which is common for sea-marks in that part of the world). Nobody seens very sure. So nothing to do with the English word for the drink. Butt durting the late C19 it actually had its name changed to Rhum by an incomer Lancashire cottonmill machinery manufacturer who bought it but didn't want to be called "Laird of Rum".
SNH as was was doing reafforestation on Rum NNR back in the late 1970s - already a huge improvement when I revisited ca 1990 - so I am a tad sceptical about claims of that ilk (showing the agencies ...). Not least because deer and forest clearance were identified as problems long, long ago (Fraser Darling).
But good to see it done whoever.
Rum still has a lot of deer. I can't remember seeing much natural regeneration when I was last there (10 years ago maybe), particularly on the uplands, although there had no doubt been some planting.
At Glen Feshie they have taken to shooting _all_ the deer - or at least all the deer that they can find - without trying to maintain a 'balance'. NTS have kept much higher numbers on the other side of the Cairngorms on the Mar estate, and you can see large herds in the winter on the Dee. It does make a difference.
PS You wouldn't get trees on the uplands of Rum, anyway, any more than in the Sahara. In Fraser Darling's memorable words, it's a "wet desert". As I recvall, only good for sundews, flies and geologists, and scenic walks.
You'd think an island called "Rum" would also be good for, er, rum?
Rùm as a name is actually either Gaelic or (like most of its hills) Norse (which is common for sea-marks in that part of the world). Nobody seens very sure. So nothing to do with the English word for the drink. Butt durting the late C19 it actually had its name changed to Rhum by an incomer Lancashire cottonmill machinery manufacturer who bought it but didn't want to be called "Laird of Rum".
Appears the locals have a bad reputation? As in, "he's a rum one"?
Not intentionally. But I was going 50mph, it was prevaricating in the middle of the road, I couldn't swerve to avoid it (oncoming traffic) and nor could I do an emergency stop with cars behind me - so I sounded the horn repeatedly hoping it might move.
It didn't.
"I forgive you! I only hope my neurologist will feel the same!"
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Or travelled to and safely returned home from Spain, Greece, Italy, Finland or Croatia, all European countries with wild wolf populations?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BliAPzEsao0
At Glen Feshie they have taken to shooting _all_ the deer - or at least all the deer that they can find - without trying to maintain a 'balance'. NTS have kept much higher numbers on the other side of the Cairngorms on the Mar estate, and you can see large herds in the winter on the Dee. It does make a difference.
I blame my hayfever.
Upon which one of the explorers fired his gun at it. Which only served to piss the beast off, and come running FAST at his attacker.
Luckily there was others with guns about (they were armed with single-shot muzzle-loaders) as it took multiple bullets to dispatch the first - but not last - grizzly bear they'd ever laid eyes on.
At least when I was on Rum the deer were completely excluded from large areas of the island. Thinking back, and digging it up from memory, the intent was to let the woodland regenerate till the trees could survive with deer around and then see what happened - the Red Deer being primitively a woodland species of old. I must look it up to see how things are going now.
PM refuses to change mobile despite lobbying row" {£}
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/whitehall-chiefs-fears-over-phone-lobbying-access-to-boris-johnson-wrmbptqxq
"However Johnson, who has had the same phone number for more than a decade, was reluctant to change it and rejected the advice. A Whitehall source said the extent of the contact was a consistent cause for concern among officials."
And they don't always bother going in the front door.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nWCPGjOzMQ
Instead, they simply chew a hole in the door. Or wall or whatever. IF they want in, that is.
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/never-before-seen-images-one-14667382
Aren't owls birds of prey?
https://www.nursingtimes.net/news/coronavirus/government-confirms-nurses-in-england-will-not-receive-covid-19-bonus-21-04-2021/
I don't think climax forest is a worry for a loooong time, though.
I sometimes wonder what would happen if the land was abandoned entirely. We've introduced a lot of Sitka spruce in plantations and the climate is very similar in Scotland to the parts of the US where it grows natively. Left alone it is a spectacular tree. I wonder if it would 'go native' and the western woods would eventually turn into stands of Sitka and Douglas Fir? I once found a Sitka growing at 3000ft in Glencoe and no man had planted it there...
Ok I lived in Manchester for a few years and I still own property there.
Gets coat
98 people killed by cattle in the past 20 years in UK.
Should we ban them?
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/british-envoy-warned-uae-not-to-let-manchester-city-play-in-european-super-league-v9582d6sm
Can any PB Tories text BJ to ask him to change his mind
PS Yep, here it is - those humomgous canines and fiddly molars.
http://fossilsandshit.com/feeding-at-both-ends-of-the-food-chain/
The upland willows are currently rare species in Scotland due to overgrazing.
If you ever try to climb hills in western Norway in the late summer, you'll encounter nightmare thickets of willow scrub in places, and I don't see why Scotland shouldn't be the same.
In my teens a few of us would travel in late summer to the Quetico area in the Minnesota--Canada region for a couple of weeks canoe camping. There are no roads but many lakes sometimes joined by portaging. You can drink the lake water and fish abound(ed). Watching the occasional Aurora Borealis of an evening lying on a rock slab on a lake's edge is memorable. One year the berry crop (or something) had failed so for our first time we were plagued by brown bears. If we went to an island to avoid them they still turned up looking for food and salt too I think.
The rule to never have food in one's tent nor did we
But one of us smoked and had a carton of cigarettes in his pack in the (communal) tent. Bears' claws are razer sharp and one of the critters sniffed it out with a radar nose: It made slit through the canvas on the pack and decided that it was not edible and sauntered off whereupon a chum who was lying on his air mattress in that same tent with a bad stomach exploded out of it ashen faced.
I’ve been leaked details of industry-gov call today. Aim is for official docs proving jab status to be ready for May 17.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2021/04/21/covid-passports-proving-vaccine-status-released-summer-holidays/
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/04/12/business/brexit-trade-100-days/index.html
https://www.cityam.com/treasury-minister-sorry-for-lcf-minibond-scandal-and-plans-crackdown-on-online-fraud/
https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/6xo8tuoxu4/Rewilding survey.pdf
The question does qualify with 'extinct in the UK', specimen species quoted, etc but I saw white-tailed sea eagles in Scotland on Rum and Eigg decades ago so why ask? Same with the beavers etc. They're either extinct or not. 'Continuing their reintroduction' yes, but ...
Mind you, there was a wild Lammergeier not very far from TSE last summer. Quite a sight it was, too...
Peru
Bulgaria
Mexico
Russia
Lithuania
North Macedonia
Ecuador
Serbia
Czech Republic
Bosnia and Herzegovina
South Africa
Moldova
Romania
Slovakia
Poland
Portugal
Albania
Bolivia
Kazakhstan
Italy
https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/coronavirus-excess-deaths-tracker
Must say I'm impressed by number of PBers with personal acquaintance with wilder parts of North America, not to mention Europe and its obscure off-shore islands.
Heck, even TSE has ventured to some of the wilder parts of WA State! Like the lawn below the Space Needle?
Don't know if that's because their numbers are increasing or somehow covid related.
Alpacas are becoming quite common as well.
Coincidence? Conspiracy? Kismet?
The bad thing too is that most of those countries only have data until January and February too. None of them get up to April like the UK's does.
The UK, USA and Brazil are tied for 21st under there essentially but with the UK's data a month later - given the scenes coming out of Brazil its likely only a matter of time until they go further up the list unfortunately.
My eyebrows did rise rather precipitously.
Turns out it doesn't exist.
Very few animals anywhere kill humans deliberately, it being mostly accidental. It is humans that kill humans deliberately.
I'm not a pheasant plucker
I'm the pheasant pluckers mate
I'm busy plucking pheasants
Because the pheasant pluckers late
Say it out loud three times fast (probably best to do while not reading it)
Which otherwise was NY TV producer stereotypical view of city they knew nothing about and cared less.
Just like American sitcom allegedly about any city west of the Hudson or east of Pasadena.
For example, has ANYONE ever been to a Seattle coffeeshop where they bring your coffee to your table? NO!
AND is it ALWAYS raining in Seattle? No again. (though we keep THAT to ourselves, as it helps discourage the riff-raff).
AND does everyone in Seattle carry an umbrella? NOOOOO. In fact, that is a sign that you are either a tourist OR just got off the bus.
Still remember the local hoots of derision, when someone on the show referred to a week-end get-away to Lake Chelan. Because THEY pronounced last syllable to rhyme with "lawn" whereas WE say it to rhyme with "Anne".
Nevertheless, folks in the Emerald City loved the show in its prime (the final years were dreck) just like everyone else. And more so, because it was (allegedly) about Our Fair City.
Unless you were eating a rat or lemming or summat
They are being culled. So venison is not deer.
Actually the last one seems representative of every city in America.
Hat. Coat.
Walking through most residential areas (such as my hood) is like walking though a garden, thanks to all the trees, flowers, etc., etc. Truly amazing on a day like today (Sunny Temp mid 70s F).
Mountains, or rather two mountain ranges - Cascades to east, Olympics to the west - and two volcanoes (Mt Rainier to south, Mt Baker to north).
Plus Puget Sound, a saltwater fjord, and glacial freshwater Lake Washington. And that just (some) of the waters within city limits.
Meat's a bit tough to sink your teeth into too I bet.
From what I've heard some are now semi-feral.
They're certainly a shock when you see them the first time.
A hospital employee in Italy has been accused of skipping work on full pay for 15 years, local media report.
The man is alleged to have stopped turning up to work at the Ciaccio hospital in the southern city of Catanzaro in 2005.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-56822571