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A reminder that significant portions of Britons are so stupid they should be denied the vote and not allowed out of the house without adult supervision – politicalbetting.com
Wildcats are set to be reintroduced to English woodlands for the first time in 200 years. We previously found that 46% of Britons would be in support of their reintroductionhttps://t.co/wrJz9FYkRU pic.twitter.com/kIILZjCzCV
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Er, the polling question refers to reintroducing animal species "into the UK".
Which last time I looked (still) includes the Scottish Highlands and a few other areas with some significant wilderness?
Think the notion that people who want to see a native species reintroduced are ipso facto nuts, is itself ipso facto nuts.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/apr/21/ex-minister-johnny-mercer-says-almost-nobody-tells-truth-in-johnsons-government
"“This is the most distrustful, awful environment I’ve ever worked in, in government. Almost nobody tells the truth is what I’ve worked out over the last 36 hours.
“And, you know, I don’t think anyone really can get on their high horse about trust and ethics and all the rest of it in politics, because as far as I’m concerned, most of it is a bit of a cesspit.”" says Captain Mercer. Remember that he resigned / was fired for insisting that Liar honour his pledge to army veterans.
We don't need "co-ordination". Nor ultimately should we be going for "energy efficient" beyond that which is budget-friendly.
We don't need to stop consuming energy. We need to consume clean energy.
Energy is good, energy is not bad. Energy allows us to do stuff. Doing stuff is good not bad generally.
Climate change will be dealt with properly and economically when we can consume as much energy as we want, guilt-free. Because we're consuming clean energy.
The reality is we're already approaching that fact. Most of our electricity now comes from zero carbon sources. Our cars are switching to electricity. We don't need to stop or reduce our consumption, we need to ensure we are running as much consumption as we can in a clean manner. Once its clean, it doesn't matter how much energy we consume.
A change of mindset is needed - and only that will get the likes of China and the rest on board. They couldn't care less about stopping consumption etc, that's not in their interests. But if we can consume whatever we please in a clean and affordable manner - they have no reason not to copy that. Clean and affordable is in their interests too.
The only thing that matters is getting things clean and affordable - not preventing them. If your solution is "don't build roads" or "fly less" you have the wrong solution.
That is the solution. Not stopping doing things, but doing them cleaner. Once we have clean electricity there's no reason not to use as much electricity as we can afford. The idea we need to stop consuming the stuff was entirely the wrong mindset and has become almost religious in some people's zeal - consuming less of it makes sense on economic grounds in the long term, not environmental.
You're sure of a big surprise.....
FUCK ME - BEARS!!!!
Does anyone disagree, or actually know the guy personally as to be able to comment based on first-hand experience?
The key takeaways here are 1) bias is alive and well (duh) and 2) bears are the animal people would least like to be reintroduced into the UK (also duh).
Oh, and people like birds for some reason. And beavers. No comment.
There is no reasonable case to be made for introducing bison to the UK as a wild species.
To get to net Zero we need our energy to be 0 emissions. Once our energy is at 0 emissions, it is irrelevant how much of it we consume.
0.5X * 0 = 0
X * 0 = 0
2X * 0 = 0
The extremists that have hijacked much of the climate debate in the name of being "Green" want us to reduce consumption, control X, rather than simply change the technology so that X is irrelevant. Once we have clean energy there's no harm in us doubling, tripling or more our energy consumption - so long as its economically productive to do so.
Humans were the apex predator for foxes... now we are not.
Prior to their elimination, bears and wolves were intermediate predators... reintroduction will help solve the urban fox problem
...just like all those other countries with wolves and bears.
I'm in the 25%. But you probably all knew that already.
Johnny Mercer, former defence minister, tells @tnewtondunn that ''almost nobody tells the truth'' in this government and that it's the "most distrustful, awful environment I've ever worked in government".
On grounds that he's a bear-lover that is!
Sadly, we are not Iceland.
“Net-0” is gonna be an impossible goal, but it’s not really in anyone’s interests to say that, so we all go along with the charade.
The point is if you multiply by 0, any answer becomes automatically 0 by definition.
So it doesn't matter if you're Iceland, or the UK, or Scotland, or China - either way it remains 0. So long as one side of the equation is 0, whatever you multiply by it is 0 too.
0 carbon electricity is entirely possible. Once you have that, everything that you power by electricity is not consuming any carbon.
There I said it. I agree with Philip Davies. Oh the shame.
Oh sorry, did you mean Mercer not Johnson?
From Trees for Life website:
"Trees for Life recognised that the Caledonian Forest is more than trees, but an intricate web of life, that should include the full range of wildlife that originally grew there. This includes large predators such as wolf and lynx, forest grazers such as wild cattle and special plants such as twinflower. The charity has returned red squirrels to forests in the North West Highlands where the animal had not lived for over 50 years and it has sought to bring back beavers to rivers and lochs that are its natural home. This is because without the full web of life that make up the forest, it cannot thrive and grow naturally.
Trees for Life is now working to ensure the Caledonian Forest grows from the last patches of the original wild forest that remain so it can grow again in large areas of Scotland. The charity is also seeking to ensure the wild forest can grow at a scale that enables rewilding to happen so nature can look after itself, especially around Glen Affric and Glenmoriston where it has worked for many years."
You know the song about the old lady who swallowed a fly?
What would Hunt have done?
And anyway, Beavers have already been reintroduced. Didn't know about the Wildcats though.
"Dear Prime Minister,
I'm afraid there are no pick-er-nic baskets left.
Sorry and good luck!"
The disappointing aversion to "hairshirt" Green politics is the epitome of throwing the baby out with the bathwater, Challenging some of the consumption-based aspects of how we live and looking at alternatives isn't to be dismissed. By all means, let's have ingenuity and technology front and centre but let's also challenge some of our own shibboleths.
The other side is the fact the devices we use to empower our modern world are all too often produced from resources dug out of the earth. The rare earths for example, which are in our phones and computers, mean parts of Greenland become desolate wastelands. We may consider that a price worth paying but what about the people directly affected?
"Green" is so much more than pollution or air quality - it's like stating the housing problem can only be solved by building a lot more houses or that leaving the EU is simply about the right to decide our own laws. It ignores the complexities and the inter-relationships and the nuances which make these issues and their resolution so much more interesting and challenging.
For the avoidance of doubt, I think that DAC is a load of bollocks.
Wolves? Why not? There's definitely places in Scotland where they could survive. They are probably less dangerous than your neighbour's Pit Bull. They would keep the deer on the move and we'd end up with more trees.
Wildcats? We could do with saving the ones we have. There are probably fewer remaining now than there are Siberian tigers and very few people seem to care. Give Tiddles the snip!
Beavers? Get on with it. Not that they aren't already spreading across Scotland, the Tay catchment in particular.
Yes, I have a vote.
PS I have encountered bears whilst camping in the NW Cascades. As long as you take suitable precautions, and don't catch them by surprise, it isn't really that dangerous. The main problems happen when they start thinking people = food, so you cook out of your tent, keep anything smelly in a canister and hoist it into a tree overnight.
"In the half-century up to 2002, there were eight fatal attacks in Europe and Russia, three in North America"
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolf_attack
There have been 67 fatal bear attacks in North America since 1900:
https://wiseaboutbears.org/about-us/bear-attacks-2/#:~:text=*Black bears have killed 67,murdered are 60,000 times greater.
So considerably safer than wasps.
Not intentionally. But I was going 50mph, it was prevaricating in the middle of the road, I couldn't swerve to avoid it (oncoming traffic) and nor could I do an emergency stop with cars behind me - so I sounded the horn repeatedly hoping it might move.
It didn't.
If less travelling is being done because you don't need or want to travel then so be it.
If less travelling is being done because although you want to travel you're being heavily taxed or prevented from doing so by a lack on infrastructure (because roads haven't been upgraded or built) that's a bad thing.
The housing problem can only be solved by building a lot more houses. That is true.
Leaving the EU was primarily about the right to decide our own laws. That is true.
The complexities sometimes are wrong. If people don't want to travel then they won't travel because they don't want to, not because they want to save the planet. Telling people they're not allowed to travel even if they want to, because doing so is destroying the planet - that is what is "hairshirt" and is destined to fail
The one valid point is rare earth materials. The solution to them is the same: human ingenuity. We need to find a non-rare alternative.
Methow Valley News - State agency approves new hound hunting rules
https://methowvalleynews.com/2021/02/10/state-agency-approves-new-hound-hunting-rules/#:~:text=Washington voters outlawed the use,covered in the 1996 law.
note - reckon this is first time that the Methow Valley News has been cited on PB!
BTW, it's pronounced "Met-tawh" and is a lovely location, on the east side of the Cascade Mountains in Okanogan County, which is sparsely populated but the size of the state of Connecticut.
My issue was that if I saw a bear I would be peeing non stop, which would attract lots of bears.
All roadkill belongs to the Queen
Goodnight.
Wolves would eliminate the need for the helicopter gunships.
BTW, the Methow Valley is the only part of Okanogan County that consistently votes Democratic, other than a few Latino & Native precincts.
Also BTW, Washington's Okanogan County is just south of British Columbia's Okanagan region (note spelling difference) which is has much larger population due to it's lakes AND because it is Canada's premier wine region. Also has the only desert in the Great White North (not counting downtown Saskatoon on a Wednesday night).
Hence why I said once we have zero-carbon energy we should go for budget-friendly energy efficiency. If the cost of energy efficiency is considerably more than the cost of the energy, then that's when we're being counterproductive.
https://twitter.com/jfaetheyy/status/1382597737133248517?s=21
What a splendid birthday pheasant!
Although if anyone wants to go the other way and have bears in crocs playing Super League football, PLEASE BE MY GUEST
Lynxes are solitary predators - fairly sensible choice compared with wolf packs (problem is territory size with the latter).
But I might add that Homo "Sapiens" is by far the most dangerous species on Earth.
But good to see it done whoever.
Boris Johnson rejected advice from cab sec to change phone number after concerns were raised about extent to which he was being contacted
Simon Case is said to have recommended move last year amid concern over number of people contacting PM
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/4250abf8-a2d9-11eb-b457-728758ee7665?shareToken=b1f13e354e880b339d784cd09b90efcc
Number of Americans killed by wolves last year? 0.
Number killed trying to retrieve change from vending machines? 4.