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What makes an effective protest – politicalbetting.com
What makes an effective protest – politicalbetting.com
One which changes a government’s intended actions or leads it to do something it might not otherwise have done?
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Not another moaning wh*re, surely.
* Yes there are exceptions in history, but not in recent past. Student protests, anti-cuts, anti-globalization, anti-statue toppling, even BLM, as soon as got violent down the tubes.
The simple fact is that they were unable to ramp up production as fast as they had planned - which was always a risk with a novel vaccine.
So I agree with @Cyclefree that protest is not really about protest at all. Its about persuasion. You want to make the rest of the country listen. Setting fire to police vans or hurting cops or damaging property is not persuasive, it pisses people off. If you want a successful protest don't do it. QED
Note the Zoe figure though. Hope a blip.
The Justice for the 96 protest during the start of the Arsenal match in January 2007.
It did work, eventually.
I can think of, off the top of my head, Joanna Lumley and justice for Ghurkas, and (arguably) the fuel tax protests. Maybe a select few of the strike actions, like the firefighters' one.
Foxhunting, the Iraq War, anti-Brexit - I would say all of those had huge support and followed all those rules, more-or-less. All failed totally.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thích_Quảng_Đức
Now you have had your vaccine, you can expect freedom. Its the quickest way to freedom, right? getting the vaccine?
I hope you are bracing yourselves.
If a sufficient number Idiots refuse to get vaccinated when it is their time then there will be a hold up.
"This is perhaps the most uncomfortable aspect of the new legislation: that the government isn’t just trying to control who comes into the country, but extending its control over who goes out. If other countries are accepting of visitors, for any variety of reasons, it seems a much deeper infringement on personal liberty that the UK government would stop people from leaving."
AIUI is not a large facility at all. This is it: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9391335/Factory-heart-EU-row-supplied-us.html
It produced stuff which was needed when AZ was being tested. It is not approved for the manufacture of vaccine by either the EU or indeed the UK. We have apparently received some vaccine from there but its use is not yet approved in the UK either.
Which seems on the face of it to make this all rather ridiculous. The EU cannot "steal" our vaccine because it is not authorised for use. Given the lack of authorisation it is not obvious how we can use it to meet our forthcoming shortfall either. Its also a vaccine on which the EU are not very keen and of which they seem to have fairly significant stocks. All very odd.
What the EU are doing is destroying their reputation as a rules based organisation for no obvious benefit whatsoever. It is truly bizarre. Are there no adults left in the room at all?
And now we're out of the EU. At the time I think they were only concerned with keeping the UK out of the Euro. Bit of an overachievement.
I suppose he and Palach have attained immortality regardless of the success or otherwise of their protests. The Tunisian who burned himself to death certainly started a chain of events..
The BBC has announced its plans for the upcoming elections in Wales, Scotland and the local and mayoral elections in England. Its comprehensive coverage will include televised leaders’ debates, extensive online information, and in-depth results coverage"
https://www.bbc.com/mediacentre/2021/elections/
Both causes (IMHO) were and are absolutely right, one mostly supported on the centre right, and one mostly on the centre liberal/left, and mass protest achieved nothing.
Win the fairness battle - I think the end point is a better way of putting it. Make government supporters uneasy, don't reinforce their views. Don't do the government's job for it.
Reach out for allies - interesting one, since as noted in the piece the piggy backers are not the ones you want to ally with but they make themselves your allies. Not sure how to make this work then - not being pure opens up your coalition, but increases the chance of hijacking.
Get real - Agree 100%. Evidence to the contrary, people are not stupid, and they might really dislike things but they know things are not as terrible as the perennials insist. It doesn't mean you have to water down your radical proposals, just put them in the actual context and people might still like it.
Behave as if you want Britain to be as good as it can be - basically a corrollary to the above. It's much harder than falling back on cliched revolutionary sloganeering, but it is much more effective. Sure, appealing to your opponents that they are letting themselves down usually won't work, but there will be an audience there, and more among the public. If nothing else, acknowledging we might have good points but need to improve is something people believe can be achieved, whereas if we are utterly bereft and corrupt what's the bloody point?
Have a genuine grievance - Nothing to add rally. Sure, hard to decide which protests merit what level of fervour, but when viewed on the news they all look the same, so save the intense stuff for when it matters, if you can.
Don't appropriate others' concerns for your own ends - the original sin of a lot of protests.
Do the unexpected/use some imagination - hard to plan for really. Some catchy image or gimmick that appears spontaneous might work, but that's hardly easy and most such plans will look naff.
Silence and non-violence - As you note, it can be hard, but others manage it. And ultimately, is this about you releasing your rage and looking cool, or do you want to aid the cause?
One for the government - yes they should, and people doing the above will make it harder to not at least try to listen, as they'll look like cocks.
https://twitter.com/DaveKeating/status/1374400918548934667
It's hell on the back muscles, I can tell you.
Sounds familiar.....
That's my fault. I may or may not be a stupid idiot for acting like that. And at some juncture it may well occur to me I am a stupid idiot, and I will get the vaccine.
But the rest of you should be effing furious. You locked down. You got the vaccine when asked. You played ball. YO You are still in prison.
And relying on the people who put you in prison, to get you out of prison. After they reneged on a bucket of other promises.
That or the lunatics are running the asylum.
Insanity appears to be descending on the mainland
A few decades ago the plan to increase the number of nuclear warheads would have dominated the protest industry. The threat from nuclear weapons is absolutely identical to the threat when CND etc commanded millions on the streets. The effects of them being used is unchanged. Hardly a squeak by comparison. Our single issue friends have moved on.
Did I read that Labour abstained on the Sturgeon vote? SLAB obviously taking its lead from Starmer. A bloody relief if true. There's no point in opening travel corridors until the destination countries are in a similar position w.r.t. vaccination and viral suppression as we are, and it looks like that may take a goodly while in most cases.
This isn't a viable policy without an eternal ban on coming in and going out of Britain. Its just the logical conclusion of an utterly failed and catastrophic policy.
A protest against something those organisations want, is not going to be 'successful' - its ugliest face will be front page news.
Obviously it's not always that simple - sometimes two powerful actors want different things. Sometimes the coverage won't all be slanted, where there's more media freedom etc.
Luckily for them its only on the Hartlepool United football forum.
Sarwar has wisely decided that with the SCons being the petty, vindictive small people consumed with hatred of the EssEnnPee in the room, he might as well gain some credibility by showing a hint of pragmatic principle (or more cynically that he realised that the whole 'get Nippy' thing had turned into a clown car crash). I'm sticking with my prediction of SLab ousting the SCons as second party in May.
https://twitter.com/HelenBranswell/status/1374389013356769287
Secretly he loves what he hates.
By cases data
By hospitalisations
I expect the leaders debates will not improve on what is a bitterly divided Country
That probably isn't what they are known for.
I'm sure theyre super keen on that.
What we can immediately see from the 69-74 % efficacy figure is that the statistical error in any point estimate is substantial. If these are 1 sigma error bounds, then what is the probability that a test on one set of data gives 79 % and on another set of data gives 74 % ?
From the site that you are quoting :"Releasing the 79% figure — while knowing it was out-of-date — was like telling your mother you got an A in a course when really you got an A on one test, but a C overall. OUCH!"
That statement is clearly a much bigger misrepresentation than anything AZ have done or have not done.
The site is shit-stirring, and so are you.
https://twitter.com/eucopresident/status/1374409791955636224?s=21
Given the option of saying - oops we screwed up or blaming AZ and the UK for not providing vaccines that were "promised" what else would you expect a politician to do beyond.