I've read about that volcano. I believe it's the kind that spews out big spreading lava flows rather than explosive ejections of ash and gas (like that totally unpronounceable one that went off a few years back.)
The Plague is much more likely to wreck sunshine holiday plans than the eruption.
We’ve done this. Lots of people fancy people from the opposite party. There’s loads of them on here. How many PB Tories openly lust after Lisa Nandy, Rosena Allin-Khan, Rachel Reeves etc.
I have a leftie primary school teacher friend who fancies Boris.
So what?
Boris ?
Off topic.
Given where this thread seems to be, Comical Dave has a new graph, and has declared Switzerland to be back in the EU (cockup, not conspiracy):
That is very beautiful. I've heard of the Old Oss, and I've been to Padstow, but only in peak tourist season. Of course, as a tourist, I don't mind seeing it in peak tourist season - the town puts on a good show for its hordes of visitors - but that video is different: that is for the community, not the visitors. These people are somewheres of the first order, to whom home, place and community matter. This sort of thing happens in miniature up and down the country of course. But seldom so melodically.
We’ve done this. Lots of people fancy people from the opposite party. There’s loads of them on here. How many PB Tories openly lust after Lisa Nandy, Rosena Allin-Khan, Rachel Reeves etc.
I have a leftie primary school teacher friend who fancies Boris.
So what?
Well that's what you or I would say. But if you're from a sect within a party which spends its time being furious about everything, this sort of thing will get your goat.
It’s probably not the sort of thing anyone would choose to put on social media these days, be they male, female or trans. But my understanding is that that the tweet in question was from ten years ago. I suspect most people will be reasonably forgiving.
I've read about that volcano. I believe it's the kind that spews out big spreading lava flows rather than explosive ejections of ash and gas (like that totally unpronounceable one that went off a few years back.)
The Plague is much more likely to wreck sunshine holiday plans than the eruption.
However. Just paid the final instalment on my son's school trip to Iceland in July. He's not having much luck with this school lark lately.
Re: Whether anyone cares about Cornish, I’d like to metaphorically hold my hand up. My grandma was Cornish and it matters to me, not least because it would have mattered to her.
We’ve done this. Lots of people fancy people from the opposite party. There’s loads of them on here. How many PB Tories openly lust after Lisa Nandy, Rosena Allin-Khan, Rachel Reeves etc.
I have a leftie primary school teacher friend who fancies Boris.
So what?
Boris ?
Off topic.
Given where this thread seems to be, Comical Dave has a new graph, and has declared Switzerland to be back in the EU (cockup, not conspiracy):
We’ve done this. Lots of people fancy people from the opposite party. There’s loads of them on here. How many PB Tories openly lust after Lisa Nandy, Rosena Allin-Khan, Rachel Reeves etc.
I have a leftie primary school teacher friend who fancies Boris.
So what?
Well that's what you or I would say. But if you're from a sect within a party which spends its time being furious about everything, this sort of thing will get your goat.
Well on PT Casino said he could never date a Labour lassie. So it's a 2 way street.
Yes, he seemed to be saying he fancied lots of Labour MPs, but would never want to date them.
We’ve done this. Lots of people fancy people from the opposite party. There’s loads of them on here. How many PB Tories openly lust after Lisa Nandy, Rosena Allin-Khan, Rachel Reeves etc.
I have a leftie primary school teacher friend who fancies Boris.
So what?
Well that's what you or I would say. But if you're from a sect within a party which spends its time being furious about everything, this sort of thing will get your goat.
It’s probably not the sort of thing anyone would choose to put on social media these days, be they male, female or trans. But my understanding is that that the tweet in question was from ten years ago. I suspect most people will be reasonably forgiving.
They're not going to be reasonably forgiving of a party arguing with itself over the ten year old tweets of its candidate for election as MP. They could do with getting a grip of themselves and concentrating on what's important.
I've read about that volcano. I believe it's the kind that spews out big spreading lava flows rather than explosive ejections of ash and gas (like that totally unpronounceable one that went off a few years back.)
The Plague is much more likely to wreck sunshine holiday plans than the eruption.
However. Just paid the final instalment on my son's school trip to Iceland in July. He's not having much luck with this school lark lately.
Flight should be OK for the same reason. The volcano is in a relatively remote location and is apparently not a threat to the airport, let alone Reykjavik itself, which stands no realistic chance of being consumed by lava.
Again, his chance of getting there depend rather more on the state of UK and Icelandic Plague restrictions at that point.
Does Lenny Henry only pop up once a year for Comic Relief?
Does he do anything else??
I was reading about him yesterday, he's got quite an impressive academic CV now, has become a well regarded stage actor, and most recently has been cast in the Lord of the Rings TV show (the most expensive televsion show ever). So I'd say he's doing quite a lot even if his profile isn't as high as it once was, but when the Lord of the Rings show starts later this year he'll probably become better known than ever before.
Orientating myself on this, this is Second Age.
So Foundation of Numenor to the Last Alliance.
Side show of Nargothrond for a bit, and Life in Gondolin.
All the long running characters have to be Elves, as men don't live long enough for a 3500 year story cycle.
And we have Gandalf. And Sauron not Morgoth.
And the Nine Wraiths. Slightly unclear - do we get a Boss Wraith or the King of Angmar?
How on earth are the PC warriors going to pigeonhole this?
All sins are equal, and there shall be no forgiveness or opportunity for redemption.
No idea why Labour lost the red wall...man says coohhh blimey that tennis player is a looker and which Tory MP is a bit of all right....Stoke man and woman, yes she is good looking lass, carry on drinking pint...Labour top brass, BUUUURRRNNNNN HIIIIIIIIMMMMM.
As I understand it, that isn't the case and in fact he's been chosen by Starmer for the Hartlepool race.
Isn't this just a solitary Corbynite figure calling for his head?
We’ve done this. Lots of people fancy people from the opposite party. There’s loads of them on here. How many PB Tories openly lust after Lisa Nandy, Rosena Allin-Khan, Rachel Reeves etc.
I have a leftie primary school teacher friend who fancies Boris.
So what?
Well that's what you or I would say. But if you're from a sect within a party which spends its time being furious about everything, this sort of thing will get your goat.
It’s probably not the sort of thing anyone would choose to put on social media these days, be they male, female or trans. But my understanding is that that the tweet in question was from ten years ago. I suspect most people will be reasonably forgiving.
They're not going to be reasonably forgiving of a party arguing with itself over the ten year old tweets of its candidate for election as MP. They could do with getting a grip of themselves and concentrating on what's important.
Reminds me the editor of Teen Vogue has just had to go for a racist tweet from 10 years ago (when she was a teenager) and for which she previously apologized 2 years ago. No redemption ever allowed.
And in vaccine news, the authorities in the UAE are now giving 3rd doses of the Chinese Sinopharm vaccine to some as the response to the 1st two jabs isn't considered up to scratch.
That is very beautiful. I've heard of the Old Oss, and I've been to Padstow, but only in peak tourist season. Of course, as a tourist, I don't mind seeing it in peak tourist season - the town puts on a good show for its hordes of visitors - but that video is different: that is for the community, not the visitors. These people are somewheres of the first order, to whom home, place and community matter. This sort of thing happens in miniature up and down the country of course. But seldom so melodically.
Ah my God. The prickle of tears here.
I've been to Mayday in Padstow several times. Danced with the Oss. What that wonderful video doesn't tell you is that the singing - of that one, repetitive, hypnotic song - goes on all day, again and again and again, as everyone gets more and more drunk. By dusk it is really quite pagan and aggressive (in an exciting way) - the drumming and the weird movements of Obby Oss - and you can sense how old the tradition is. Some say it is pre-Norman, maybe much older than that. It certainly feels pre-Christian
And what is marvellous, right now, is knowing that in 50 years time the people of Padstow will still be doing that strange dance and singing their mesmerising song, on Mayday, when Covid is just a distant and faded memory,
We’ve done this. Lots of people fancy people from the opposite party. There’s loads of them on here. How many PB Tories openly lust after Lisa Nandy, Rosena Allin-Khan, Rachel Reeves etc.
I have a leftie primary school teacher friend who fancies Boris.
So what?
Well that's what you or I would say. But if you're from a sect within a party which spends its time being furious about everything, this sort of thing will get your goat.
It’s probably not the sort of thing anyone would choose to put on social media these days, be they male, female or trans. But my understanding is that that the tweet in question was from ten years ago. I suspect most people will be reasonably forgiving.
Most people, yes. Lunatics on Twitter, maybe not.
Sure, but one shouldn't live one's life by Twitter.
And in vaccine news, the authorities in the UAE are now giving 3rd doses of the Chinese Sinopharm vaccine to some as the response to the 1st two jabs isn't considered up to scratch.
Sinopharm. I forget, is that the Chinese one that is supposed to be legit or the one that had already been revealed as very poor?
We’ve done this. Lots of people fancy people from the opposite party. There’s loads of them on here. How many PB Tories openly lust after Lisa Nandy, Rosena Allin-Khan, Rachel Reeves etc.
I have a leftie primary school teacher friend who fancies Boris.
So what?
Well that's what you or I would say. But if you're from a sect within a party which spends its time being furious about everything, this sort of thing will get your goat.
Well on PT Casino said he could never date a Labour lassie. So it's a 2 way street.
Sure, but you can find someone attractive you wouldn't necessarily want to date.
Reminds me the editor of Teen Vogue has just had to go for a racist tweet from 10 years ago (when she was a teenager) and for which she previously apologized 2 years ago. No redemption ever allowed.
Isn't the more solid argument for redemption not caring what someone tweeted 10 years or 20 years ago?
As an aside, I wonder if other parties routinely instruct their prospective candidates to delete their social media history as a prerequisite for being accepted onto a an approved candidates' list?
This you finish up with candidates who have no history - almost Orwellian you might say.
We’ve done this. Lots of people fancy people from the opposite party. There’s loads of them on here. How many PB Tories openly lust after Lisa Nandy, Rosena Allin-Khan, Rachel Reeves etc.
I have a leftie primary school teacher friend who fancies Boris.
So what?
Well that's what you or I would say. But if you're from a sect within a party which spends its time being furious about everything, this sort of thing will get your goat.
It’s probably not the sort of thing anyone would choose to put on social media these days, be they male, female or trans. But my understanding is that that the tweet in question was from ten years ago. I suspect most people will be reasonably forgiving.
They're not going to be reasonably forgiving of a party arguing with itself over the ten year old tweets of its candidate for election as MP. They could do with getting a grip of themselves and concentrating on what's important.
Who is arguing about it? I have just read on here that one Corbynite peer is opposing his candidacy. Is that a big row? Dunno.
We’ve done this. Lots of people fancy people from the opposite party. There’s loads of them on here. How many PB Tories openly lust after Lisa Nandy, Rosena Allin-Khan, Rachel Reeves etc.
I have a leftie primary school teacher friend who fancies Boris.
So what?
Well that's what you or I would say. But if you're from a sect within a party which spends its time being furious about everything, this sort of thing will get your goat.
It’s probably not the sort of thing anyone would choose to put on social media these days, be they male, female or trans. But my understanding is that that the tweet in question was from ten years ago. I suspect most people will be reasonably forgiving.
They're not going to be reasonably forgiving of a party arguing with itself over the ten year old tweets of its candidate for election as MP. They could do with getting a grip of themselves and concentrating on what's important.
Who is arguing about it? I have just read on here that one Corbynite peer is opposing his candidacy. Is that a big row? Dunno.
Labour Women's Network are having a mild seizure about it afaics. Presumably Corbynistas will blame Sir Kendrick, and demand that he we-ignite the wevolution.
We’ve done this. Lots of people fancy people from the opposite party. There’s loads of them on here. How many PB Tories openly lust after Lisa Nandy, Rosena Allin-Khan, Rachel Reeves etc.
I have a leftie primary school teacher friend who fancies Boris.
So what?
Well that's what you or I would say. But if you're from a sect within a party which spends its time being furious about everything, this sort of thing will get your goat.
Well on PT Casino said he could never date a Labour lassie. So it's a 2 way street.
Sure, but you can find someone attractive you wouldn't necessarily want to date.
Did you rule out girls because they voted for the opposite party?
We’ve done this. Lots of people fancy people from the opposite party. There’s loads of them on here. How many PB Tories openly lust after Lisa Nandy, Rosena Allin-Khan, Rachel Reeves etc.
I have a leftie primary school teacher friend who fancies Boris.
So what?
Boris ?
Off topic.
Given where this thread seems to be, Comical Dave has a new graph, and has declared Switzerland to be back in the EU (cockup, not conspiracy):
We’ve done this. Lots of people fancy people from the opposite party. There’s loads of them on here. How many PB Tories openly lust after Lisa Nandy, Rosena Allin-Khan, Rachel Reeves etc.
I have a leftie primary school teacher friend who fancies Boris.
So what?
Well that's what you or I would say. But if you're from a sect within a party which spends its time being furious about everything, this sort of thing will get your goat.
Well on PT Casino said he could never date a Labour lassie. So it's a 2 way street.
Sure, but you can find someone attractive you wouldn't necessarily want to date.
Did you rule out girls because they voted for the opposite party?
That just seems ridiculous to me.
Mrs U rarely if ever votes for the same party as me.
All sins are equal, and there shall be no forgiveness or opportunity for redemption.
No idea why Labour lost the red wall...man says coohhh blimey that tennis player is a looker and which Tory MP is a bit of all right....Stoke man and woman, yes she is good looking lass, carry on drinking pint...Labour top brass, BUUUURRRNNNNN HIIIIIIIIMMMMM.
We’ve done this. Lots of people fancy people from the opposite party. There’s loads of them on here. How many PB Tories openly lust after Lisa Nandy, Rosena Allin-Khan, Rachel Reeves etc.
I have a leftie primary school teacher friend who fancies Boris.
So what?
Well that's what you or I would say. But if you're from a sect within a party which spends its time being furious about everything, this sort of thing will get your goat.
It’s probably not the sort of thing anyone would choose to put on social media these days, be they male, female or trans. But my understanding is that that the tweet in question was from ten years ago. I suspect most people will be reasonably forgiving.
They're not going to be reasonably forgiving of a party arguing with itself over the ten year old tweets of its candidate for election as MP. They could do with getting a grip of themselves and concentrating on what's important.
Who is arguing about it? I have just read on here that one Corbynite peer is opposing his candidacy. Is that a big row? Dunno.
Labour Women's Network are having a mild seizure about it afaics. Presumably Corbynistas will blame Sir Kendrick.
Re: Whether anyone cares about Cornish, I’d like to metaphorically hold my hand up. My grandma was Cornish and it matters to me, not least because it would have mattered to her.
Some of my distant relatives are from west Devon. Maybe there are some Cornish ones there somewhere as well.
And in vaccine news, the authorities in the UAE are now giving 3rd doses of the Chinese Sinopharm vaccine to some as the response to the 1st two jabs isn't considered up to scratch.
Sinopharm. I forget, is that the Chinese one that is supposed to be legit or the one that had already been revealed as very poor?
I believe Sinopharm is the most common one in international circulation.
And in vaccine news, the authorities in the UAE are now giving 3rd doses of the Chinese Sinopharm vaccine to some as the response to the 1st two jabs isn't considered up to scratch.
Sinopharm. I forget, is that the Chinese one that is supposed to be legit or the one that had already been revealed as very poor?
I believe Sinopharm is the most common one in international circulation.
A quick google is it sinovac that isn't very good. Sinopharm is the one that is supposed to be decent.
I don't like to ever defend Rees-Mogg, but he doesn't actually say that by my reading.
He says "modest quotation in foreign languages is permissible" and "some [members] occasionally use Latin quips, and that is perfectly allowable" and "Welsh quips and Scots quotations are allowed, but not full speeches" going on to go into the cost of translation of full speeches.
I read that as three separate but related points about foreign languages, dead/classical languages, and UK languages other than English. I don't actually think it's correct that he was referring to Welsh or Scots as "foreign languages".
That's exactly how I understood what he was saying too.
Why shouldn't a Welsh MP be able to do a speech in Welsh? Inconvenient, sure, but if it's their first language...
Because it’s not an official language of the Commons and facilities are not provided to translate it. Nor could they be easily provided given the antiquated nature of the chamber.
The key to speeches in debate is that everyone needs to be able to understand them or they are a complete waste of time.
I believe the three surviving Celtic languages *should* be permitted to be used in the Commons, but the fact is at this moment they are not and unless a democratic decision is taken to change and enable that, speeches should be in English.
As someone that speaks cornish I agree, should be permitted if translation is there but I dont think everyone should learn cornish and the language of parliament for the time being has to be english
Do you really speak Cornish or do you just know a few words? I am intrigued because Cornish as a language had zero native speakers by 1800.
It's 'revival' in the 1900s must surely have been entirely academic and artificial.
Of course the survey in 1800 may have been wrong there may have been people who refused to admit it. I got taught it by my father and mother who learnt it from their parents etc back several generations far past the 1800's
I've gotta be honest, I don't believe you. That would make you a mother tongue speaker of Cornish, and they died out with Dolly Pentreath
If you are telling the truth, you could make money telling your story to linguists. Right back to the 1800s??!
Why would I care about linguists....puzzled here? I can trace my mothers side back to an gof. I don't really care what linguist think nor do I need to chase money
If what you are saying is true, then you should absoultely contact some linguists, because you would be living proof of the Cornish language never becoming exctinct, which woud be *very* big news in the world of both linguistics and Cornish identity.
Indeed. It would be explosive. Linguists across the world ejaculating in surprise. Quite the survival.
A bit like the re-discovery of the ceolacanth for zoologists
Why should I care, it dies out or it doesnt. There are people who speak cornish and those that dont, we really arent bothered about passing it on to other that our children
I don't think you understand how unique you are. Again, I don't wish to sound skeptical, but if what you are saying is true, it means a European language thought dead, as a mother tongue, for 250 years, actually survived all that time
In the world of linguistics this would be close to miraculous. Cornish is often cited, around the world, as a classic example of HOW languages die out, under pressure from more vigorous competitors
So if it was revealed that in Padstow one family continued speaking Cornish, at home, from 1800-ish to the 1980s, that would be HUUUGE. Really. MAJOR
Shrugs I have met other people speaking cornish I can understand from other places so dont see why you say that. Cornish is a dying language its on its last legs these days its just not quite dead yet. I personally dont feel like being an exhibit for linguists as I guess most dont so we arent going to volunteer it
tbh didnt even realise it was such a big deal till now
Are there sea shanties in Cornish? Can you give us the words of one?
The EU has completely failed on vaccines. This is the final admission: Germany goes solo, and buys from Russia.
What a disaster
They've watched Hungary break ranks and the light bulb has flicked on. I'm surprised they've not done it already. The only question must be over production capacity: Germany can doubtless afford to pay whatever it takes to get hold of Sputnik V, but how quickly can it be delivered?
I've lost track on Sputnik. Does it work?
Yes. It works well. There are rumours the Russians just hacked Oxford computers and stole the blueprint of AZ. No idea if that's true. Russia has a proud scientific tradition and is quite capable of making its own vaccine
We do know there WAS an attempt to steal the AZ formula
It would be ironic if in order to address the issues caused by the questions they had raised about the AZ vaccine they ended up relying on a Russian knock-off of AZ.
The EU has completely failed on vaccines. This is the final admission: Germany goes solo, and buys from Russia.
What a disaster
It's amazing to think that the UK's decision not to join the EU vaccine scheme was possibly the most geopolitically consequential decision of the whole Brexit process.
We’ve done this. Lots of people fancy people from the opposite party. There’s loads of them on here. How many PB Tories openly lust after Lisa Nandy, Rosena Allin-Khan, Rachel Reeves etc.
I have a leftie primary school teacher friend who fancies Boris.
So what?
Well that's what you or I would say. But if you're from a sect within a party which spends its time being furious about everything, this sort of thing will get your goat.
It’s probably not the sort of thing anyone would choose to put on social media these days, be they male, female or trans. But my understanding is that that the tweet in question was from ten years ago. I suspect most people will be reasonably forgiving.
They're not going to be reasonably forgiving of a party arguing with itself over the ten year old tweets of its candidate for election as MP. They could do with getting a grip of themselves and concentrating on what's important.
Who is arguing about it? I have just read on here that one Corbynite peer is opposing his candidacy. Is that a big row? Dunno.
Labour Women's Network are having a mild seizure about it afaics. Presumably Corbynistas will blame Sir Kendrick.
Owen Jones is of course on the case....
Somewhere there is a post that Own Jones made to a UK-Left Yahoo Group when he was a wiggling internationalist revolutionary aged 16 engaged in the People's Front of Judea Leftist Uncivil wars. He was not happy when it was republished.
The thing with all these cases, for me it comes down to is there consistent evidence of poor behaviour, in particular recently. That is why case of O'Mara was bad, his social media contained a long pattern of outbursts, which were just as bad a few months for his election and evidence he was even worse in person.
The EU has completely failed on vaccines. This is the final admission: Germany goes solo, and buys from Russia.
What a disaster
It's amazing to think that the UK's decision not to join the EU vaccine scheme was possibly the most geopolitically consequential decision of the whole Brexit process.
Yes. And conversely, the EU's decision to have a pooled vaccine policy, which then turned into a relative nightmare (worsened by the member states, it must be said) proved to be the biggest vindicator OF Brexit.
An enormous cluster of ironies. It will take historians decades to tease them all out.
Re: Whether anyone cares about Cornish, I’d like to metaphorically hold my hand up. My grandma was Cornish and it matters to me, not least because it would have mattered to her.
Some of my distant relatives are from west Devon. Maybe there are some Cornish ones there somewhere as well.
Nah, you’re the enemy. I think I’m subject to a blood oath against you. Anything over the Tamar is evil.
And in vaccine news, the authorities in the UAE are now giving 3rd doses of the Chinese Sinopharm vaccine to some as the response to the 1st two jabs isn't considered up to scratch.
Sinopharm. I forget, is that the Chinese one that is supposed to be legit or the one that had already been revealed as very poor?
I believe Sinopharm is the most common one in international circulation.
A quick google is it sinovac that isn't very good. Sinopharm is the one that is supposed to be decent.
we'll see how extensive the UAE 3rd dose campaign is going to be over the next few weeks.
We’ve done this. Lots of people fancy people from the opposite party. There’s loads of them on here. How many PB Tories openly lust after Lisa Nandy, Rosena Allin-Khan, Rachel Reeves etc.
I have a leftie primary school teacher friend who fancies Boris.
So what?
Well that's what you or I would say. But if you're from a sect within a party which spends its time being furious about everything, this sort of thing will get your goat.
Well on PT Casino said he could never date a Labour lassie. So it's a 2 way street.
Sure, but you can find someone attractive you wouldn't necessarily want to date.
Did you rule out girls because they voted for the opposite party?
That just seems ridiculous to me.
Mrs U rarely if ever votes for the same party as me.
Nor Mrs C (who has, by the way, voted for five different parties (the big five, no nationalists or poxy independents) at the last five general elections. But we agree on most things. I think it's possible for a relationship to work in which partners vote for different parties. But I'd be wary of a relationship in which the other party had completely different values. That's not to say I couldn't be friewith someone with completely different values - that describes many of my friends - but I wouldn't want to be making a life together.
Or, the British government got the right people in the right roles, gave them authority to make these decisions, and, because they were well-chosen, they made the right call. Risky, but right. And in a plague you have to take risks.
I am all for criticising our government when they get it wrong. And, as they now admit, they got it terribly wrong in 2020 on masks, quarantine, test and trace. Many died needlessly. In the end, there must be a reckoning.
But no one in the West (Australasia excepted, and they are lucky to be isolated) got this entirely "right", Not Germany (as we now see) not Sweden, not anyone.
But HMG did get one vital thing right, in multiple ways. Vaccines. They got the procurement, the investment, the diverse portfolio, the rigorous contracts, the one dose strategy, almost everything. Massive success.
Credit where credit is due. Make Kate Bingham a duchess.
The EU has completely failed on vaccines. This is the final admission: Germany goes solo, and buys from Russia.
What a disaster
It's amazing to think that the UK's decision not to join the EU vaccine scheme was possibly the most geopolitically consequential decision of the whole Brexit process.
Yes. And conversely, the EU's decision to have a pooled vaccine policy, which then turned into a relative nightmare (worsened by the member states, it must be said) proved to be the biggest vindicator OF Brexit.
An enormous cluster of ironies. It will take historians decades to tease them all out.
I'm sure it's the biggest reason for the turnaround in polling on Scottish independence. Having done more vaccinations in one day than Ireland has done in three months hasn't gone unnoticed either, although their leading expert on England, Fintan O'Toole, is uncharacteristically silent.
Re: Whether anyone cares about Cornish, I’d like to metaphorically hold my hand up. My grandma was Cornish and it matters to me, not least because it would have mattered to her.
Some of my distant relatives are from west Devon. Maybe there are some Cornish ones there somewhere as well.
Nah, you’re the enemy. I think I’m subject to a blood oath against you. Anything over the Tamar is evil.
I've always wondered whether the people of Boyton – and Boyton Mill – think that, or whether the hatred tapers as the Tamar narrows.
Re: Whether anyone cares about Cornish, I’d like to metaphorically hold my hand up. My grandma was Cornish and it matters to me, not least because it would have mattered to her.
Some of my distant relatives are from west Devon. Maybe there are some Cornish ones there somewhere as well.
Nah, you’re the enemy. I think I’m subject to a blood oath against you. Anything over the Tamar is evil.
I was expecting you to say that, lol. It doesn't work the other way round, does it. Devonians don't dislike Cornish people in the same way as vice versa for some reason.
Re: Whether anyone cares about Cornish, I’d like to metaphorically hold my hand up. My grandma was Cornish and it matters to me, not least because it would have mattered to her.
Some of my distant relatives are from west Devon. Maybe there are some Cornish ones there somewhere as well.
Nah, you’re the enemy. I think I’m subject to a blood oath against you. Anything over the Tamar is evil.
I was expecting you to say that, lol. It doesn't work the other way round, does it. Devonians don't dislike Cornish people in the same way as vice versa for some reason.
Nonsense. The Cornish don't "dislike" people from Devon, at all. They just want to be differentiated from them, that is all - and often government policy lumps them in with Devon (eg the police force or, as was, universities) or even with a greater southwest, inc Bristol, absurdly
The Cornish have their own identity. And have had, for thousands of years. Let them enjoy it.
The Cornish can take a bit of a funny turn when it comes to super-rich Londoners buying all the nice houses on the Fal estuary, that I admit.
Re: Whether anyone cares about Cornish, I’d like to metaphorically hold my hand up. My grandma was Cornish and it matters to me, not least because it would have mattered to her.
Some of my distant relatives are from west Devon. Maybe there are some Cornish ones there somewhere as well.
Nah, you’re the enemy. I think I’m subject to a blood oath against you. Anything over the Tamar is evil.
I've always wondered whether the people of Boyton – and Boyton Mill – think that, or whether the hatred tapers as the Tamar narrows.
You say Boyton. I say the frontier. Trelawny is not so soon forgotten, and Devon has failed as buffer.
Re: Whether anyone cares about Cornish, I’d like to metaphorically hold my hand up. My grandma was Cornish and it matters to me, not least because it would have mattered to her.
Some of my distant relatives are from west Devon. Maybe there are some Cornish ones there somewhere as well.
Nah, you’re the enemy. I think I’m subject to a blood oath against you. Anything over the Tamar is evil.
I've always wondered whether the people of Boyton – and Boyton Mill – think that, or whether the hatred tapers as the Tamar narrows.
You say Boyton. I say the frontier. Trelawny is not so soon forgotten, and Devon has failed as buffer.
Re: Whether anyone cares about Cornish, I’d like to metaphorically hold my hand up. My grandma was Cornish and it matters to me, not least because it would have mattered to her.
Some of my distant relatives are from west Devon. Maybe there are some Cornish ones there somewhere as well.
Nah, you’re the enemy. I think I’m subject to a blood oath against you. Anything over the Tamar is evil.
I've always wondered whether the people of Boyton – and Boyton Mill – think that, or whether the hatred tapers as the Tamar narrows.
You say Boyton. I say the frontier. Trelawny is not so soon forgotten, and Devon has failed as buffer.
We’ve done this. Lots of people fancy people from the opposite party. There’s loads of them on here. How many PB Tories openly lust after Lisa Nandy, Rosena Allin-Khan, Rachel Reeves etc.
I have a leftie primary school teacher friend who fancies Boris.
So what?
Well that's what you or I would say. But if you're from a sect within a party which spends its time being furious about everything, this sort of thing will get your goat.
It’s probably not the sort of thing anyone would choose to put on social media these days, be they male, female or trans. But my understanding is that that the tweet in question was from ten years ago. I suspect most people will be reasonably forgiving.
They're not going to be reasonably forgiving of a party arguing with itself over the ten year old tweets of its candidate for election as MP. They could do with getting a grip of themselves and concentrating on what's important.
Reminds me the editor of Teen Vogue has just had to go for a racist tweet from 10 years ago (when she was a teenager) and for which she previously apologized 2 years ago. No redemption ever allowed.
So glad they didn't have Twitter when I was a teenager. I'd probably have been fired from every job I ever had.
I've read about that volcano. I believe it's the kind that spews out big spreading lava flows rather than explosive ejections of ash and gas (like that totally unpronounceable one that went off a few years back.)
The Plague is much more likely to wreck sunshine holiday plans than the eruption.
However. Just paid the final instalment on my son's school trip to Iceland in July. He's not having much luck with this school lark lately.
Flight should be OK for the same reason. The volcano is in a relatively remote location and is apparently not a threat to the airport, let alone Reykjavik itself, which stands no realistic chance of being consumed by lava.
Again, his chance of getting there depend rather more on the state of UK and Icelandic Plague restrictions at that point.
Lets hope we don't get any dry fogs. A repeat of 1783 would not be entirely welcome at the moment...
We’ve done this. Lots of people fancy people from the opposite party. There’s loads of them on here. How many PB Tories openly lust after Lisa Nandy, Rosena Allin-Khan, Rachel Reeves etc.
I have a leftie primary school teacher friend who fancies Boris.
So what?
It's simple - Labour considers it a very bad thing when anyone but them does it. Hypocrisy is built into their DNA.
When the news is grim, it's nice to have a bit of humour.
Kate Bingham, the former UK vaccine supremo, is holding forth about the irresponsibility of European leaders in undermining confidence in the AstraZeneca vaccine.
This is the same woman who publicly said we shouldn't vaccinate healthy younger people for fear of side effects!
F1: this isn't my type of bet (low odds, longish time frame). But Ladbrokes has a best rookie market Yuki Tsunoda (AlphaTauri) is 1.08. Schumacher and Mazepin are 10 and 15 respectively.
Tsunoda is almost certain to win this, barring serious injury that stops him racing. Haas have already said they aren't developing their car this year. The AlphaTauri was significantly faster last year anyway.
So, if a low odds but very likely bet is your thing, give this a look.
When the news is grim, it's nice to have a bit of humour.
Kate Bingham, the former UK vaccine supremo, is holding forth about the irresponsibility of European leaders in undermining confidence in the AstraZeneca vaccine.
This is the same woman who publicly said we shouldn't vaccinate healthy younger people for fear of side effects!
The EU has been saying they shouldn't vaccinate elderly people who die from Covid for fear of side effects.
Or because it is quasi-ineffective. It's easy to lose track when discussing the EU's policy towards vaccination. The EU and vaccine common sense haven't been on speaking terms for months now.
When the news is grim, it's nice to have a bit of humour.
Kate Bingham, the former UK vaccine supremo, is holding forth about the irresponsibility of European leaders in undermining confidence in the AstraZeneca vaccine.
This is the same woman who publicly said we shouldn't vaccinate healthy younger people for fear of side effects!
It’s the difference between identifying a specific product and a general statement
No one in the industry has an issue with the concept of risk/benefit. All pharmaceutical products, including vaccines, have side effects. The question is whether the benefits outweigh those risks.
The answers may differ on an individual vs a population level
When the news is grim, it's nice to have a bit of humour.
Kate Bingham, the former UK vaccine supremo, is holding forth about the irresponsibility of European leaders in undermining confidence in the AstraZeneca vaccine.
This is the same woman who publicly said we shouldn't vaccinate healthy younger people for fear of side effects!
It’s the difference between identifying a specific product and a general statement
No one in the industry has an issue with the concept of risk/benefit. All pharmaceutical products, including vaccines, have side effects. The question is whether the benefits outweigh those risks.
The answers may differ on an individual vs a population level
Astonishing that anyone would defend what Bingham said about its being undesirable to vaccinate the whole population - with any vaccine - for fear of serious side-effects.
But I should just stop being astonished at people's stupidity over COVID-19.
When the news is grim, it's nice to have a bit of humour.
Kate Bingham, the former UK vaccine supremo, is holding forth about the irresponsibility of European leaders in undermining confidence in the AstraZeneca vaccine.
This is the same woman who publicly said we shouldn't vaccinate healthy younger people for fear of side effects!
It’s the difference between identifying a specific product and a general statement
No one in the industry has an issue with the concept of risk/benefit. All pharmaceutical products, including vaccines, have side effects. The question is whether the benefits outweigh those risks.
The answers may differ on an individual vs a population level
Astonishing that anyone would defend what Bingham said about its being undesirable to vaccinate the whole population - with any vaccine - for fear of serious side-effects.
But I should just stop being astonished at people's stupidity over COVID-19.
Why don’t you post the precise quote you are referring to? Kate may have been answering a specific question.
But nothing I have said is untrue. All medical intervention is a trade off.
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The Plague is much more likely to wreck sunshine holiday plans than the eruption.
EDIT: looks like Leave.EU might also have had a point. Apparently the EU has also admitted Turkey.
I've heard of the Old Oss, and I've been to Padstow, but only in peak tourist season. Of course, as a tourist, I don't mind seeing it in peak tourist season - the town puts on a good show for its hordes of visitors - but that video is different: that is for the community, not the visitors. These people are somewheres of the first order, to whom home, place and community matter.
This sort of thing happens in miniature up and down the country of course. But seldom so melodically.
He's not having much luck with this school lark lately.
Odd.
Again, his chance of getting there depend rather more on the state of UK and Icelandic Plague restrictions at that point.
So Foundation of Numenor to the Last Alliance.
Side show of Nargothrond for a bit, and Life in Gondolin.
All the long running characters have to be Elves, as men don't live long enough for a 3500 year story cycle.
And we have Gandalf. And Sauron not Morgoth.
And the Nine Wraiths. Slightly unclear - do we get a Boss Wraith or the King of Angmar?
How on earth are the PC warriors going to pigeonhole this?
As I understand it, that isn't the case and in fact he's been chosen by Starmer for the Hartlepool race.
Isn't this just a solitary Corbynite figure calling for his head?
I've been to Mayday in Padstow several times. Danced with the Oss. What that wonderful video doesn't tell you is that the singing - of that one, repetitive, hypnotic song - goes on all day, again and again and again, as everyone gets more and more drunk. By dusk it is really quite pagan and aggressive (in an exciting way) - the drumming and the weird movements of Obby Oss - and you can sense how old the tradition is. Some say it is pre-Norman, maybe much older than that. It certainly feels pre-Christian
And what is marvellous, right now, is knowing that in 50 years time the people of Padstow will still be doing that strange dance and singing their mesmerising song, on Mayday, when Covid is just a distant and faded memory,
God bless Cornwall
As an aside, I wonder if other parties routinely instruct their prospective candidates to delete their social media history as a prerequisite for being accepted onto a an approved candidates' list?
This you finish up with candidates who have no history - almost Orwellian you might say.
That just seems ridiculous to me.
An enormous cluster of ironies. It will take historians decades to tease them all out.
It did worry experts.
It is working.
Both stories were right.
The moral: we learn stuff.
But we agree on most things.
I think it's possible for a relationship to work in which partners vote for different parties. But I'd be wary of a relationship in which the other party had completely different values. That's not to say I couldn't be friewith someone with completely different values - that describes many of my friends - but I wouldn't want to be making a life together.
I am all for criticising our government when they get it wrong. And, as they now admit, they got it terribly wrong in 2020 on masks, quarantine, test and trace. Many died needlessly. In the end, there must be a reckoning.
But no one in the West (Australasia excepted, and they are lucky to be isolated) got this entirely "right", Not Germany (as we now see) not Sweden, not anyone.
But HMG did get one vital thing right, in multiple ways. Vaccines. They got the procurement, the investment, the diverse portfolio, the rigorous contracts, the one dose strategy, almost everything. Massive success.
Credit where credit is due. Make Kate Bingham a duchess.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/cornwall-overtakes-london-as-place-most-of-us-want-to-live-hqp2bzpt9
The Cornish have their own identity. And have had, for thousands of years. Let them enjoy it.
The Cornish can take a bit of a funny turn when it comes to super-rich Londoners buying all the nice houses on the Fal estuary, that I admit.
https://www.devonandsevernifca.gov.uk/
https://www.cornwall-ifca.gov.uk/Cornwall_IFCA_Vessels
That Goldman-Sachs survey just made the R4 Midnight News.
There'd be hell to pay if it were.
My dad's having his second jab a couple of weeks earlier than expected, which was a nice surprise.
Kate Bingham, the former UK vaccine supremo, is holding forth about the irresponsibility of European leaders in undermining confidence in the AstraZeneca vaccine.
This is the same woman who publicly said we shouldn't vaccinate healthy younger people for fear of side effects!
Betting PostF1: this isn't my type of bet (low odds, longish time frame). But Ladbrokes has a best rookie market Yuki Tsunoda (AlphaTauri) is 1.08. Schumacher and Mazepin are 10 and 15 respectively.
Tsunoda is almost certain to win this, barring serious injury that stops him racing. Haas have already said they aren't developing their car this year. The AlphaTauri was significantly faster last year anyway.
So, if a low odds but very likely bet is your thing, give this a look.
Or because it is quasi-ineffective. It's easy to lose track when discussing the EU's policy towards vaccination. The EU and vaccine common sense haven't been on speaking terms for months now.
No one in the industry has an issue with the concept of risk/benefit. All pharmaceutical products, including vaccines, have side effects. The question is whether the benefits outweigh those risks.
The answers may differ on an individual vs a population level
But I should just stop being astonished at people's stupidity over COVID-19.
But nothing I have said is untrue. All medical intervention is a trade off.