It isn't racist for a mother and father to talk about what their child is going to be like obviously. What may be racist is somebody (related or not) discussing whether or not they should change the rules about grandchildren of the monarch becoming an automatic Prince and commenting about possible skin colour in the same conversation, maybe.
Mrs Ed reckons it's Prince William who said this. I think that's a decent bet.
Either Wills or Daddy. That's why Harry is speaking to neither much on the phone.
William told Harry he was making a mistake in marrying Meghan. Harry (understandably) sided with his fiancée as was.
You're someone I listen to very closely on those matters because, given the circles you move in, you know what you're talking about.
But, if that was the case, how come he was still the best man and they both seemed ok together on the day?
Papering over the cracks?
Because your brother is getting married and wants you to be his best man
Surely if your brother is marrying someone you consider to be a mistake you abstain
They aren't the labour party....
While I appreciate the party political point....I was actually being quite serious. If I am so sure someone is wrong for a friend I will tell them so and abstain from the wedding. (Not sure I would be able to resist the "If anyone knows why these two should not be married speak now or forever hold your peace" bit). Only done it once All his friends had serious reservations about it but went to the wedding 10 years ago. Lasted 3 years in which time she drove all his old friends away before running off with someone. Only one that he still speaks to now is me because all he needed to say was "should have listened to you" whereas he spent 3 years defending her actions to all his other friends and they want no more to do with him. Yes he didnt speak to me for 3 years but....
The day I started dating my best friend's older sister he warned me I was making the biggest mistake of my life. I thought he was joking (besides I was going to get laid!) until a couple of months before we were due to get married and I came home early from a rig....
He is still my best friend.
Better to speak truth and be damned than lie and be damned
Newsnight: EU taking legal action against the UK over vaccines.
Absurd. On what grounds?
UvdL: "We need grounds?"
I'm sure it is as clear as those contracts that didn't say what she said. Or the command structure which allowed Article 16 to be accidentally invoked.
I think they owe Boris a favour, and want to make him look good.
I don't understand why the EU want the UK to provide them with the vaccines that are produced here, because their people won't accept the AZ vaccines they've already got.
Because if they have them in their vaults stored safe we can't inject them into british arms and won't outrun them on vaccinations so fast
Newsnight: EU taking legal action against the UK over vaccines.
Absurd. On what grounds?
UvdL: "We need grounds?"
I'm sure it is as clear as those contracts that didn't say what she said. Or the command structure which allowed Article 16 to be accidentally invoked.
I think they owe Boris a favour, and want to make him look good.
I don't understand why the EU want the UK to provide them with the vaccines that are produced here, because their people won't accept the AZ vaccines they've already got.
Actually the worst Tory leader was neither, May or IDS may not have won an election but neither lost one either.
The worst Tory leader was actually Hague who led the Tories to a landslide defeat in 2001 without any victories to compensate, Major for instance had 1997 but he also had his 1992 win too.
In fact he was so bad I believe you even voted Labour in 2001 (some of us of course stayed loyal however even in the bad times!)
Hague is a great orator and author and reasonable Foreign Secretary but was a hopeless leader
Yep. His election campaign was dismal. An insouciant belief the voters would "see sense" and vote Tory again. And Europe, immigration and tax. Utterly out of tune with the times.
(Interior quotes snipped owing to Vanilla's length limit.)
Hague's concentration on saving the pound is noteworthy for two reasons. First, Gordon Brown had already saved it. Second, it was later claimed that CCHQ (or probably Central Office at the time) pressure on constituency parties prevented feedback on how badly it went down with the public.
Tone deaf. Mind you he did increase the Tory seats from 165 to 166. The equivalent of taking 4 years to try to scale Everest and getting as far as your own front door.
Newsnight: EU taking legal action against the UK over vaccines.
Absurd. On what grounds?
UvdL: "We need grounds?"
I'm sure it is as clear as those contracts that didn't say what she said. Or the command structure which allowed Article 16 to be accidentally invoked.
I think they owe Boris a favour, and want to make him look good.
I don't understand why the EU want the UK to provide them with the vaccines that are produced here, because their people won't accept the AZ vaccines they've already got.
It's not about getting more vaccines. They already have more than they are using at present, and as rcs1000 has noted before there will be lots of vaccines available soon (and the EU has big orders, albeit some will be slower arriving than they'd like).
Despite protests that everything they did was great, the plausible remaining explanation is that they are feeling the heat for the rollout, and distraction works. You make a big claim, or legal action, you stick by it for a little while, and then when you step it back it doesn't matter, as the public view remembers the initial claims.
Newsnight: EU taking legal action against the UK over vaccines.
Absurd. On what grounds?
UvdL: "We need grounds?"
I'm sure it is as clear as those contracts that didn't say what she said. Or the command structure which allowed Article 16 to be accidentally invoked.
I think they owe Boris a favour, and want to make him look good.
I don't understand why the EU want the UK to provide them with the vaccines that are produced here, because their people won't accept the AZ vaccines they've already got.
Actually the worst Tory leader was neither, May or IDS may not have won an election but neither lost one either.
The worst Tory leader was actually Hague who led the Tories to a landslide defeat in 2001 without any victories to compensate, Major for instance had 1997 but he also had his 1992 win too.
In fact he was so bad I believe you even voted Labour in 2001 (some of us of course stayed loyal however even in the bad times!)
Hague is a great orator and author and reasonable Foreign Secretary but was a hopeless leader
Yep. His election campaign was dismal. An insouciant belief the voters would "see sense" and vote Tory again. And Europe, immigration and tax. Utterly out of tune with the times.
(Interior quotes snipped owing to Vanilla's length limit.)
Hague's concentration on saving the pound is noteworthy for two reasons. First, Gordon Brown had already saved it. Second, it was later claimed that CCHQ (or probably Central Office at the time) pressure on constituency parties prevented feedback on how badly it went down with the public.
Tone deaf. Mind you he did increase the Tory seats from 165 to 166. The equivalent of taking 4 years to try to scale Everest and getting as far as your own front door.
Yes Hague was the worst Tory leader since the Duke of Wellington who was trounced in 1832 after blocking the Reform Act. Wellington had beaten Napoleon at Waterloo though so his political career was a bit of an afterthought, his place in history already assured
Actually the worst Tory leader was neither, May or IDS may not have won an election but neither lost one either.
The worst Tory leader was actually Hague who led the Tories to a landslide defeat in 2001 without any victories to compensate, Major for instance had 1997 but he also had his 1992 win too.
In fact he was so bad I believe you even voted Labour in 2001 (some of us of course stayed loyal however even in the bad times!)
Hague is a great orator and author and reasonable Foreign Secretary but was a hopeless leader
Yep. His election campaign was dismal. An insouciant belief the voters would "see sense" and vote Tory again. And Europe, immigration and tax. Utterly out of tune with the times.
(Interior quotes snipped owing to Vanilla's length limit.)
Hague's concentration on saving the pound is noteworthy for two reasons. First, Gordon Brown had already saved it. Second, it was later claimed that CCHQ (or probably Central Office at the time) pressure on constituency parties prevented feedback on how badly it went down with the public.
Tone deaf. Mind you he did increase the Tory seats from 165 to 166. The equivalent of taking 4 years to try to scale Everest and getting as far as your own front door.
Newsnight: EU taking legal action against the UK over vaccines.
Absurd. On what grounds?
UvdL: "We need grounds?"
I'm sure it is as clear as those contracts that didn't say what she said. Or the command structure which allowed Article 16 to be accidentally invoked.
I think they owe Boris a favour, and want to make him look good.
I don't understand why the EU want the UK to provide them with the vaccines that are produced here, because their people won't accept the AZ vaccines they've already got.
They want a fight with us - anything will do
Well that's what the Tories have been doing for years.
Newsnight: EU taking legal action against the UK over vaccines.
Absurd. On what grounds?
UvdL: "We need grounds?"
I'm sure it is as clear as those contracts that didn't say what she said. Or the command structure which allowed Article 16 to be accidentally invoked.
I think they owe Boris a favour, and want to make him look good.
I don't understand why the EU want the UK to provide them with the vaccines that are produced here, because their people won't accept the AZ vaccines they've already got.
They want a fight with us - anything will do
Well that's what the Tories have been doing for years.
Bounce in polls every time.
Yes, the EU know what they are doing, and it works. But it's wrong whoever does it. Especially as on this issue, people will die because of the collateral damage of a loss of trust in AZ's product that has been a result. So it is worse than most of the times the Tories have done it.
Just googled the Guardian this day a year ago. Of the top 5 stories 3 were. Alex Salmond trial. H+M's final Royal engagement. And Prince Andrew won't voluntarily give evidence. Plus ca change and all that.
Further down. "People should "work from home" to tackle coronavirus spread. The parentheses have gone at least.
Newsnight: EU taking legal action against the UK over vaccines.
Absurd. On what grounds?
UvdL: "We need grounds?"
I'm sure it is as clear as those contracts that didn't say what she said. Or the command structure which allowed Article 16 to be accidentally invoked.
I think they owe Boris a favour, and want to make him look good.
I don't understand why the EU want the UK to provide them with the vaccines that are produced here, because their people won't accept the AZ vaccines they've already got.
They want a fight with us - anything will do
Well that's what the Tories have been doing for years.
Bounce in polls every time.
Do you think the European Commission will get a bounce in the polls?
Meghan clearly has powers that other mortals can only dream of. How do I make it so that people check with me before they say things?
The working of the tweet is a bit weird like that, though the subheadng about 'given backing to' seems clearer it wasn't about allowing, but endorsing.
Actually the worst Tory leader was neither, May or IDS may not have won an election but neither lost one either.
The worst Tory leader was actually Hague who led the Tories to a landslide defeat in 2001 without any victories to compensate, Major for instance had 1997 but he also had his 1992 win too.
In fact he was so bad I believe you even voted Labour in 2001 (some of us of course stayed loyal however even in the bad times!)
Hague is a great orator and author and reasonable Foreign Secretary but was a hopeless leader
Yep. His election campaign was dismal. An insouciant belief the voters would "see sense" and vote Tory again. And Europe, immigration and tax. Utterly out of tune with the times.
(Interior quotes snipped owing to Vanilla's length limit.)
Hague's concentration on saving the pound is noteworthy for two reasons. First, Gordon Brown had already saved it. Second, it was later claimed that CCHQ (or probably Central Office at the time) pressure on constituency parties prevented feedback on how badly it went down with the public.
Tone deaf. Mind you he did increase the Tory seats from 165 to 166. The equivalent of taking 4 years to try to scale Everest and getting as far as your own front door.
But sadly that 1 seat gain was Patrick Mercer...
Andrew Rosindell gained Romford and Castle Point, Norfolk NW, Galloway and Upper Nithsdale, Upminster, Tatton, Isle of Wight and Taunton went blue too but there were also a few losses to the LDs such as Cheadle, Guildford and Ludlow and Norfolk North and Dorset South went Labour
Newsnight: EU taking legal action against the UK over vaccines.
Absurd. On what grounds?
UvdL: "We need grounds?"
I'm sure it is as clear as those contracts that didn't say what she said. Or the command structure which allowed Article 16 to be accidentally invoked.
I think they owe Boris a favour, and want to make him look good.
I don't understand why the EU want the UK to provide them with the vaccines that are produced here, because their people won't accept the AZ vaccines they've already got.
They want a fight with us - anything will do
I suppose that supplying places like Gibraltar doesn't count as exporting. (Does anyone know how Gibraltar's vaccination programme is going?)
The rows with the EU are distracting from the fact that the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine is playing a huge global role at the moment. Millions of doses are already being distributed through the COVAX programme.
Newsnight: EU taking legal action against the UK over vaccines.
Absurd. On what grounds?
UvdL: "We need grounds?"
I'm sure it is as clear as those contracts that didn't say what she said. Or the command structure which allowed Article 16 to be accidentally invoked.
I think they owe Boris a favour, and want to make him look good.
I don't understand why the EU want the UK to provide them with the vaccines that are produced here, because their people won't accept the AZ vaccines they've already got.
They want a fight with us - anything will do
I suppose that supplying places like Gibraltar doesn't count as exporting. (Does anyone know how Gibraltar's vaccination programme is going?)
Newsnight: EU taking legal action against the UK over vaccines.
Absurd. On what grounds?
UvdL: "We need grounds?"
I'm sure it is as clear as those contracts that didn't say what she said. Or the command structure which allowed Article 16 to be accidentally invoked.
I think they owe Boris a favour, and want to make him look good.
I don't understand why the EU want the UK to provide them with the vaccines that are produced here, because their people won't accept the AZ vaccines they've already got.
They want a fight with us - anything will do
I suppose that supplying places like Gibraltar doesn't count as exporting. (Does anyone know how Gibraltar's vaccination programme is going?)
I personally believe the point of a friend is someone who will tell you the truth even if its not what you want to hear. I told him how I saw her and said therefore I cant attend the wedding in good conscience. He cut me off as was his right but that was amicable. His other friends who though the same gritted their teeth and one by one she burned them out of his life to the point they wouldn't forgive him for siding with her
Can't really judge without knowing you, but I'd think that giving a friend frank advice is right, but refusing to attend the wedding is a bit strong - in the end it's his decision and the other side of giving frank advice to friends is accepting that they might not take it.
Curiously, I've had some experience in both directions, with the same person. Many years ago, a very unworldly relative married an exotic dancer whom he'd met on a cruise. We could all see it didn't look very promising for either of them (think Dalai Lama and Mae West) and said basically "Are you sure?", but they were set on it and pressed ahead. They divorced a few months later, but I think he appreciated the family attending even though he knew our doubts. Some years later he declined to come to my wedding because he'd cast a horoscope and advised that it was doomed unless we shifted it an hour earlier. Clearly he had a right to believe in astrology, but I did feel that the boycott was pushing it.
Has there ever been a crasser individual? You just cannot look away.
And for any credit he should get on this, you'd think even he would know the best way to make people not grateful is to tell them how grateful they should be.
Nearly 20 LGBT+ organisations and campaigners have written to the equalities minister to express their "deep concern" at her response to calls to ban so-called conversion therapy.
The campaigners say Kemi Badenoch has failed to engage with their calls for urgent action.
There are 10 million Brits living outside the UK for a start. I expect that the BBC Web administrator know where there users are. It is right that they should pay.
It'd be a fair deal if they threw in iPlayer - at present, a lot of their content is blocked overseas because the BBC hopes to sell the rights. Loads of expats would pay for that package - not sure they'd pay much for the news alone.
I don't think that was bad faith. You have to remember that because of the Internal Market Bill and the long history, the EU has become increasingly distrustful of the UK, and therefore is increasingly reluctant to trust us to meet our obligations without formal controls . Yes, we should be de-dramatising the Irish Sea border, but that is the diametric opposite of what Lord Frost and Boris are doing: they are drama-queening it, most recently with their brain-dead unilateral action. That has torpedoed the Irish government's attempt to lobby quietly within the EU for technical solutions, extensions of the grace periods, and light-touch application of the rules.
Our government is entitled to act in the interest of its own citizens.
Of course. But making our neighbours feel we are untrustworthy by showing willingness to break agreements on a whim is not in our long-term interest. Similarly, Macron's statement about AZ was idiotic and against the French public interest, so it's not just us being self-defeating.
About to watch this Adam Curtis documentary from 2011:
"All Watched Over by Machines of Loving Grace
Films by Adam Curtis about how humans have been colonised by machines we have built. Although we don't realise it, the way we see everything is through the eyes of the computers"
This is incredibly slippery slope (and crazy)...basically morgan is a racist...why, what racist thing has he said...he didn't say anything, but i felt the tone he used made it so....
This is incredibly slippery slope (and crazy)...basically morgan is a racist...why, what racist thing has he said...he didn't say anything, but i felt the tone he used made it so....
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https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/14302215/royal-navy-fleet-historic-low/
Mind you he did increase the Tory seats from 165 to 166.
The equivalent of taking 4 years to try to scale Everest and getting as far as your own front door.
Despite protests that everything they did was great, the plausible remaining explanation is that they are feeling the heat for the rollout, and distraction works. You make a big claim, or legal action, you stick by it for a little while, and then when you step it back it doesn't matter, as the public view remembers the initial claims.
Or, more succinctly
Bounce in polls every time.
Of the top 5 stories 3 were.
Alex Salmond trial.
H+M's final Royal engagement.
And Prince Andrew won't voluntarily give evidence.
Plus ca change and all that.
Further down. "People should "work from home" to tackle coronavirus spread.
The parentheses have gone at least.
https://twitter.com/WHOEthiopia/status/1369233538994888710
https://twitter.com/GibraltarGov/status/1369666013806071811/photo/1
https://twitter.com/AndrewFeinberg/status/1369793211833741312
Curiously, I've had some experience in both directions, with the same person. Many years ago, a very unworldly relative married an exotic dancer whom he'd met on a cruise. We could all see it didn't look very promising for either of them (think Dalai Lama and Mae West) and said basically "Are you sure?", but they were set on it and pressed ahead. They divorced a few months later, but I think he appreciated the family attending even though he knew our doubts. Some years later he declined to come to my wedding because he'd cast a horoscope and advised that it was doomed unless we shifted it an hour earlier. Clearly he had a right to believe in astrology, but I did feel that the boycott was pushing it.
And for any credit he should get on this, you'd think even he would know the best way to make people not grateful is to tell them how grateful they should be.
Surprised normally sensible PBers like William continue to give him oxygen.
The campaigners say Kemi Badenoch has failed to engage with their calls for urgent action.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-56353313
Not any more though. Another soft power Brexit win.
"All Watched Over by Machines of Loving Grace
Films by Adam Curtis about how humans have been colonised by machines we have built. Although we don't realise it, the way we see everything is through the eyes of the computers"
https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episodes/b011lvb9/all-watched-over-by-machines-of-loving-grace
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9348503/Sharon-Osbourne-DEFENDS-friend-Piers-Morgan-calling-Meghan-Markle-liar.html
Who becomes the arbitrator of what tone is racist?