Nobody made the PM or his wife redecorate. I have this crazy idea that this voluntary act of expenditure should be funded by those that chose to make it. And who also live there.
Only this grasping clown could imagine that his latest trick's vast redecoration bill should be picked up by "charity". Prime Ministers and their Spouses have complained about the Downing Street accommodation since times past - and yet all have resisted claiming that "charity" should pick up the bill as they redecorated "for the nation".
But lets not look at that. Far more fun to look north at he said she said as we get to the heart of the vast SNP conspiracy that culminated in 9 women deliberately perjuring themselves as part of a plot to jail the former leader of the SNP to advance the cause of the SNP or whatever.
Re your last paragraph it is the SNP involved in their own civil war, and as a matter of interest did you listen to all of Salmond’s testimony and if so not recognise just how serious this is for the SNP and has nothing to do with anything south of the border
I may have missed it, did Phil get his test results?
Took a home test yesterday and popped it in the post yesterday. So I'm guessing today or tomorrow for the results?
How are feeling today? And your good lady?
She's been fine, just tired and a little bit coughy. Not enough to call persistent.
My chest feels off but better than yesterday, which was better than day before. Never felt really bad though, though I was worried on Sunday in case it kept deteriorating from there, didn't expect to be recovering already.
If it weren't for the Covid test being positive for her I'd have thought nothing more than a common cold for either of us - maybe that is what I have, who knows? Perhaps that's the vaccine doing its job suppressing her symptoms and if I have caught it giving me a small viral load to recover from?
"An ally of Mr Johnson last night defended the charity plan, saying: 'Downing Street is as iconic as Windsor Castle but is in danger of becoming tatty because the Civil Service does everything on the cheap."
What's the issue?
Number 10 doesn't belong to Johnson, though he may live there for many, many years to come, it belongs to the state. Any refurbishments done stay with the state.
So there's no reason why the state shouldn't pay for it.
But if donors want to pay for it instead of the tax payer then that's fine by me. Let our taxes be spent on something else.
What's the problem?
Problem is grifters like these spending uneccessary millions on their personal foibles. If they want to spend a fortune , use their own money.
In Hull, the city council has teamed up with nearby East Riding of Yorkshire to submit a proposal to government for a devolution deal which, if approved, would mean an elected mayor for the area.
In a joint statement, the two council leaders describe it as an exciting opportunity that could attract investment and result in more local decision-making .
So do people in Hull agree?
In the city centre, several people expressed the view that the government was too remote, with one woman saying: "They don't know how we live in the North. I think we're at the end of the line. We're forgotten."
But while there was support for the idea of a mayor with some power, it wasn't universal.
"I think there's plenty of scope for local choice now," one man said. "When it goes bad, they blame Westminster; when it goes good, they take the praise for it. I don't think a local mayor with political power would change anything."
As it so happens, I think that stronger local Government should be beneficial if properly resourced, but people have seen what's happened elsewhere. You can't blame them for being sceptical.
I agree, the Police Commissioners have had little impact on most people's experience of policing and yet we elect them (on not a great turnout). Can anyone point to a locally elected politician who has made a real difference in last 12 months (even Andy Burnham was eventually slapped down)....
For reasons of news notability we mostly hear about local politicians when something goes seriously wrong, such as with the arrests in Liverpool, rather than about modest success, which might take years to accumulate.
If a local politician had done well, I wouldn't expect to know about it.
That’s true. With the exception of London, the only time local politicians make the national news is if something goes wrong. Even Burnham and Street have been quiet outside their own areas for the last few years.
I wonder if one of the issues here is the demise of local papers. Most people’s news sources are either national/international (the national media or, more likely, the internet) or very local (neighbourhood Facebook groups etc.). The Bucks Free Press is my local paper and I haven’t read it for ages. If the local council were up to something I’m not sure how I would know.
For a time a reporter under the Local Democracy Reporting Service was attending my local council and getting lots of stories from key meetings into the local press.
Unfortunately that seems to have stopped even though it should be even easier under Covid (they had stopped some time before it).
Yesterday, I was demanding Rayner's head for her £250 personalised earbuds. And here I am a day later looking at a scam, by comparison, of Titanic proportions, and by no less a figure than the Prime Minister.
Personalised earbuds.....soft furnishings....can we assume the media is now V V Bored with Covid and normal service is resuming? Back to the Things That Really Matter?
Labour MPs ripping the back out of their expense accounts, and Johnson getting bailouts from wealthy friends to fund his 'bon viveur' lifestyle, should not be stories hidden under the carpet of Covid.
The Johnson/NutNuts story smacks of a new Camelot. Johnson's Downing Street looks like a Poundland version of JFK's Whitehouse.
So when do you foresee a trip to the British equivalent of Dallas followed by the renaming of LHR to ABJ?
Yesterday, I was demanding Rayner's head for her £250 personalised earbuds. And here I am a day later looking at a scam, by comparison, of Titanic proportions, and by no less a figure than the Prime Minister.
Personalised earbuds.....soft furnishings....can we assume the media is now V V Bored with Covid and normal service is resuming? Back to the Things That Really Matter?
Labour MPs ripping the back out of their expense accounts, and Johnson getting bailouts from wealthy friends to fund his 'bon viveur' lifestyle, should not be stories hidden under the carpet of Covid.
The Johnson/NutNuts story smacks of a new Camelot. Johnson's Downing Street looks like a Poundland version of JFK's Whitehouse.
"An ally of Mr Johnson last night defended the charity plan, saying: 'Downing Street is as iconic as Windsor Castle but is in danger of becoming tatty because the Civil Service does everything on the cheap."
What's the issue?
Number 10 doesn't belong to Johnson, though he may live there for many, many years to come, it belongs to the state. Any refurbishments done stay with the state.
So there's no reason why the state shouldn't pay for it.
But if donors want to pay for it instead of the tax payer then that's fine by me. Let our taxes be spent on something else.
What's the problem?
Problem is grifters like these spending uneccessary millions on their personal foibles. If they want to spend a fortune , use their own money.
So you think they should get to keep the home then, since they've spent their own money on it?
How long would you be prepared to guarantee he could stay their without possibility of challenge and eviction at potentially hours notice?
It is a complete stitch up , all the required evidence to show the government criminality is hidden by government orders, everybody knows it and reads about it , you just could not make it up. If this inquiry is anything other than a whitewash I will be amazed, only hope is Wightman gets a backbone and does not fold in with the SNP plants.
I was wondering if someone could elucidate for me what the successor state of the UK would be if Scotland gained independence. [Innocent face]
I was reading that from last night.
I believe the upshot was that both the rUK and Scotland could become permanent members by one of them picking up the seat of the former USSR that's lain in abeyance ever since the USSR dissolved. Russia might be miffed, but as they're not the same as the USSR (being neither a Socialist Republic, a Soviet, or a Union), what chance do they have of getting it?
I was quite surprised at the suggestions about changing flags should Scotland leave the UK.
Plenty of countries keep historical features in their flags. There is no need to change it all.
It is a complete stitch up , all the required evidence to show the government criminality is hidden by government orders, everybody knows it and reads about it , you just could not make it up. If this inquiry is anything other than a whitewash I will be amazed, only hope is Wightman gets a backbone and does not fold in with the SNP plants.
How would you feel about the UK government stepping in if there is a complete whitewash? (Genuine question, I'm not trying to make a point.)
Yesterday, I was demanding Rayner's head for her £250 personalised earbuds. And here I am a day later looking at a scam, by comparison, of Titanic proportions, and by no less a figure than the Prime Minister.
Personalised earbuds.....soft furnishings....can we assume the media is now V V Bored with Covid and normal service is resuming? Back to the Things That Really Matter?
Labour MPs ripping the back out of their expense accounts, and Johnson getting bailouts from wealthy friends to fund his 'bon viveur' lifestyle, should not be stories hidden under the carpet of Covid.
The Johnson/NutNuts story smacks of a new Camelot. Johnson's Downing Street looks like a Poundland version of JFK's Whitehouse.
NutNut? Seriously?
The full title is “Princess Nutnuts”. It’s a nickname of sheer genius implying:
1. She looks like a chipmunk 2. She is hideously entitled 3. She is insane
Yesterday, I was demanding Rayner's head for her £250 personalised earbuds. And here I am a day later looking at a scam, by comparison, of Titanic proportions, and by no less a figure than the Prime Minister.
Personalised earbuds.....soft furnishings....can we assume the media is now V V Bored with Covid and normal service is resuming? Back to the Things That Really Matter?
Labour MPs ripping the back out of their expense accounts, and Johnson getting bailouts from wealthy friends to fund his 'bon viveur' lifestyle, should not be stories hidden under the carpet of Covid.
The Johnson/NutNuts story smacks of a new Camelot. Johnson's Downing Street looks like a Poundland version of JFK's Whitehouse.
We still have several coachloads of pensioners plunging over the Cliff of Covid Doom every day. The bigger picture of throws and cushions seems to be that is where the Press think they can hammer Boris. Not tens of thousands of deaths down to his decisions. Seems he may just get away with them....
I have been reading the back thread with amazement. Did Hyufd really take my flippant remark about England being the union of more than one kingdom and spend all night arguing about what would happen if Northumbria seceded?
This is where nationalism makes me laugh. Lines get drawn on a map. People then die to defend the lines they have drawn claiming they have always been theirs or belong to them by right or something. Its just a line.
If the argument is about the departure of Northumbria are we talking about the modern administrative county? The north of the Tyne rump Northumbria? Or the north of the Humber classic Northumbria? Its just a line drawn on a map...
I've sometimes what would have happened if Harold Godwinson had lost at Stamford Bridge, but managed to regroup and win at Hastings. Would there have been four medieval entities instead of three? (If Wales was ever actually one)
i suspect the normans would have come back with a bigger force later.
I still have something of a chip on my shoulder about the Norman Conquest. My view - and I am an amateur, and anyway, who can really know - is that Anglo Saxon England was both larger and more institutionally advanced than Normandy. The Normans defeating the Saxons was a bit of a freak event. The English were the first nation to suffer the rule of the Normans - but when the Normans then conquered Wales they had become "the English".
That is a long time to hold a grudge...
I bet @TSE a thousand years from now will still be saying the same about last Saturday’s rugby...
Yesterday, I was demanding Rayner's head for her £250 personalised earbuds. And here I am a day later looking at a scam, by comparison, of Titanic proportions, and by no less a figure than the Prime Minister.
Personalised earbuds.....soft furnishings....can we assume the media is now V V Bored with Covid and normal service is resuming? Back to the Things That Really Matter?
Labour MPs ripping the back out of their expense accounts, and Johnson getting bailouts from wealthy friends to fund his 'bon viveur' lifestyle, should not be stories hidden under the carpet of Covid.
The Johnson/NutNuts story smacks of a new Camelot. Johnson's Downing Street looks like a Poundland version of JFK's Whitehouse.
Who is nutnuts
It was Dom's nickname for Carrie. Inventing it was the only thing of worth he has done in his entire life.
I have been reading the back thread with amazement. Did Hyufd really take my flippant remark about England being the union of more than one kingdom and spend all night arguing about what would happen if Northumbria seceded?
This is where nationalism makes me laugh. Lines get drawn on a map. People then die to defend the lines they have drawn claiming they have always been theirs or belong to them by right or something. Its just a line.
If the argument is about the departure of Northumbria are we talking about the modern administrative county? The north of the Tyne rump Northumbria? Or the north of the Humber classic Northumbria? Its just a line drawn on a map...
I've sometimes what would have happened if Harold Godwinson had lost at Stamford Bridge, but managed to regroup and win at Hastings. Would there have been four medieval entities instead of three? (If Wales was ever actually one)
i suspect the normans would have come back with a bigger force later.
I still have something of a chip on my shoulder about the Norman Conquest. My view - and I am an amateur, and anyway, who can really know - is that Anglo Saxon England was both larger and more institutionally advanced than Normandy. The Normans defeating the Saxons was a bit of a freak event. The English were the first nation to suffer the rule of the Normans - but when the Normans then conquered Wales they had become "the English".
That is a long time to hold a grudge...
I can't help feeling Britain would have worked out better if the Norman Conquest hadn't happened. Possibly the biggest setback in British history.
That said, despite the relatively small numbers which came over with the Normans, the Normans form part of my ancestry, along with that of everyone else of White British descent. So although an unconquered Britain might be rich and fair and happy, it wouldn't be me here to enjoy it.
Yesterday, I was demanding Rayner's head for her £250 personalised earbuds. And here I am a day later looking at a scam, by comparison, of Titanic proportions, and by no less a figure than the Prime Minister.
Personalised earbuds.....soft furnishings....can we assume the media is now V V Bored with Covid and normal service is resuming? Back to the Things That Really Matter?
Labour MPs ripping the back out of their expense accounts, and Johnson getting bailouts from wealthy friends to fund his 'bon viveur' lifestyle, should not be stories hidden under the carpet of Covid.
The Johnson/NutNuts story smacks of a new Camelot. Johnson's Downing Street looks like a Poundland version of JFK's Whitehouse.
NutNut? Seriously?
The full title is “Princess Nutnuts”. It’s a nickname of sheer genius implying:
1. She looks like a chipmunk 2. She is hideously entitled 3. She is insane
I have been reading the back thread with amazement. Did Hyufd really take my flippant remark about England being the union of more than one kingdom and spend all night arguing about what would happen if Northumbria seceded?
This is where nationalism makes me laugh. Lines get drawn on a map. People then die to defend the lines they have drawn claiming they have always been theirs or belong to them by right or something. Its just a line.
If the argument is about the departure of Northumbria are we talking about the modern administrative county? The north of the Tyne rump Northumbria? Or the north of the Humber classic Northumbria? Its just a line drawn on a map...
I've sometimes what would have happened if Harold Godwinson had lost at Stamford Bridge, but managed to regroup and win at Hastings. Would there have been four medieval entities instead of three? (If Wales was ever actually one)
If he’d lost at Stamford Bridge he would almost certainly have been killed either by Hardrada or by Morcar, so the point is moot.
A more likely scenario is that you would have had a vicious three-way war between Saxon, Norman and Norwegian, with probably the same ultimate result given the Normans’ superior equipment, leadership and skill level.
The one imponderable might be how long William’s mercenaries would have stayed, but I suspect the attraction of plunder from the richest kingdom in Europe would have kept them interested for long enough.
Given that, apart from York the rest of "Northumbria" wasn't by any means the richest part of the kingdom, I wonder whether William would have just felt enough was enough, and stopped at.more or less, the Humber.
Nobody made the PM or his wife redecorate. I have this crazy idea that this voluntary act of expenditure should be funded by those that chose to make it. And who also live there.
Only this grasping clown could imagine that his latest trick's vast redecoration bill should be picked up by "charity". Prime Ministers and their Spouses have complained about the Downing Street accommodation since times past - and yet all have resisted claiming that "charity" should pick up the bill as they redecorated "for the nation".
But lets not look at that. Far more fun to look north at he said she said as we get to the heart of the vast SNP conspiracy that culminated in 9 women deliberately perjuring themselves as part of a plot to jail the former leader of the SNP to advance the cause of the SNP or whatever.
Is there any evidence that the 9 women committed perjury.
Its not difficult to believe that Salmond behaviours inappropriately badly around women but it does seem that it was used to attempt to build a mountain out of what was a molehill.
That is one of the things that ScotGov has been desperate to prevent anyone looking in to.
(Yes I did listen to the whole testimony session except for the first 5 minutes )
It is a complete stitch up , all the required evidence to show the government criminality is hidden by government orders, everybody knows it and reads about it , you just could not make it up. If this inquiry is anything other than a whitewash I will be amazed, only hope is Wightman gets a backbone and does not fold in with the SNP plants.
Wait. You're pro-independence but anti-SNP? Is there another Scottish independence party?
Nobody made the PM or his wife redecorate. I have this crazy idea that this voluntary act of expenditure should be funded by those that chose to make it. And who also live there.
Only this grasping clown could imagine that his latest trick's vast redecoration bill should be picked up by "charity". Prime Ministers and their Spouses have complained about the Downing Street accommodation since times past - and yet all have resisted claiming that "charity" should pick up the bill as they redecorated "for the nation".
But lets not look at that. Far more fun to look north at he said she said as we get to the heart of the vast SNP conspiracy that culminated in 9 women deliberately perjuring themselves as part of a plot to jail the former leader of the SNP to advance the cause of the SNP or whatever.
Re your last paragraph it is the SNP involved in their own civil war, and as a matter of interest did you listen to all of Salmond’s testimony and if so not recognise just how serious this is for the SNP and has nothing to do with anything south of the border
It's actually more than "just" a civil war. It's that the SNP/ScotGov/Civil Service essentially were biased, to the point of conspiring, to do Salmond down. And that they have done everything possible to prevent the parliamentary inquiry from getting to the truth. You don't have to believe Salmond is an angel to think there may be something in it.
There was, undoubtedly, a lot of funny business going on, and it all certainly stinks. The question is how far was Sturgeon and her confreres mixed up in it.
Yesterday, I was demanding Rayner's head for her £250 personalised earbuds. And here I am a day later looking at a scam, by comparison, of Titanic proportions, and by no less a figure than the Prime Minister.
Personalised earbuds.....soft furnishings....can we assume the media is now V V Bored with Covid and normal service is resuming? Back to the Things That Really Matter?
Labour MPs ripping the back out of their expense accounts, and Johnson getting bailouts from wealthy friends to fund his 'bon viveur' lifestyle, should not be stories hidden under the carpet of Covid.
The Johnson/NutNuts story smacks of a new Camelot. Johnson's Downing Street looks like a Poundland version of JFK's Whitehouse.
NutNut? Seriously?
The full title is “Princess Nutnuts”. It’s a nickname of sheer genius implying:
1. She looks like a chipmunk 2. She is hideously entitled 3. She is insane
Yesterday, I was demanding Rayner's head for her £250 personalised earbuds. And here I am a day later looking at a scam, by comparison, of Titanic proportions, and by no less a figure than the Prime Minister.
Personalised earbuds.....soft furnishings....can we assume the media is now V V Bored with Covid and normal service is resuming? Back to the Things That Really Matter?
Labour MPs ripping the back out of their expense accounts, and Johnson getting bailouts from wealthy friends to fund his 'bon viveur' lifestyle, should not be stories hidden under the carpet of Covid.
The Johnson/NutNuts story smacks of a new Camelot. Johnson's Downing Street looks like a Poundland version of JFK's Whitehouse.
NutNut? Seriously?
The full title is “Princess Nutnuts”. It’s a nickname of sheer genius implying:
1. She looks like a chipmunk 2. She is hideously entitled 3. She is insane
Yesterday, I was demanding Rayner's head for her £250 personalised earbuds. And here I am a day later looking at a scam, by comparison, of Titanic proportions, and by no less a figure than the Prime Minister.
Personalised earbuds.....soft furnishings....can we assume the media is now V V Bored with Covid and normal service is resuming? Back to the Things That Really Matter?
Labour MPs ripping the back out of their expense accounts, and Johnson getting bailouts from wealthy friends to fund his 'bon viveur' lifestyle, should not be stories hidden under the carpet of Covid.
The Johnson/NutNuts story smacks of a new Camelot. Johnson's Downing Street looks like a Poundland version of JFK's Whitehouse.
NutNut? Seriously?
The full title is “Princess Nutnuts”. It’s a nickname of sheer genius implying:
1. She looks like a chipmunk 2. She is hideously entitled 3. She is insane
Cummings is the master of the apercu.
This is kindergarten nonsense, time to grow up
How do you feel about the Mail story, Big G?
Happy that Carrie is attempting to install her own personal Sans Souci, via some wheeze with Tory donors?
The swing towards the SNP and independence that occurred at the height of the public health crisis is, it seems, not guaranteed to be durable as and when the pandemic comes to an end.
Yesterday, I was demanding Rayner's head for her £250 personalised earbuds. And here I am a day later looking at a scam, by comparison, of Titanic proportions, and by no less a figure than the Prime Minister.
Personalised earbuds.....soft furnishings....can we assume the media is now V V Bored with Covid and normal service is resuming? Back to the Things That Really Matter?
Labour MPs ripping the back out of their expense accounts, and Johnson getting bailouts from wealthy friends to fund his 'bon viveur' lifestyle, should not be stories hidden under the carpet of Covid.
The Johnson/NutNuts story smacks of a new Camelot. Johnson's Downing Street looks like a Poundland version of JFK's Whitehouse.
NutNut? Seriously?
The full title is “Princess Nutnuts”. It’s a nickname of sheer genius implying:
1. She looks like a chipmunk 2. She is hideously entitled 3. She is insane
Cummings is the master of the apercu.
Bang goes your peerage.....
I am waiting for a change in regime. Not via guillotines, I hasten to add.
I have been reading the back thread with amazement. Did Hyufd really take my flippant remark about England being the union of more than one kingdom and spend all night arguing about what would happen if Northumbria seceded?
I think he might have mentioned other ancient kingdoms.
Yesterday, I was demanding Rayner's head for her £250 personalised earbuds. And here I am a day later looking at a scam, by comparison, of Titanic proportions, and by no less a figure than the Prime Minister.
Personalised earbuds.....soft furnishings....can we assume the media is now V V Bored with Covid and normal service is resuming? Back to the Things That Really Matter?
Labour MPs ripping the back out of their expense accounts, and Johnson getting bailouts from wealthy friends to fund his 'bon viveur' lifestyle, should not be stories hidden under the carpet of Covid.
The Johnson/NutNuts story smacks of a new Camelot. Johnson's Downing Street looks like a Poundland version of JFK's Whitehouse.
NutNut? Seriously?
Stop trying to #cancel Pedro Mexicano. Your lot are pretending to be all about free speech these days remember.
I may have missed it, did Phil get his test results?
Took a home test yesterday and popped it in the post yesterday. So I'm guessing today or tomorrow for the results?
How are feeling today? And your good lady?
She's been fine, just tired and a little bit coughy. Not enough to call persistent.
My chest feels off but better than yesterday, which was better than day before. Never felt really bad though, though I was worried on Sunday in case it kept deteriorating from there, didn't expect to be recovering already.
If it weren't for the Covid test being positive for her I'd have thought nothing more than a common cold for either of us - maybe that is what I have, who knows? Perhaps that's the vaccine doing its job suppressing her symptoms and if I have caught it giving me a small viral load to recover from?
Yesterday, I was demanding Rayner's head for her £250 personalised earbuds. And here I am a day later looking at a scam, by comparison, of Titanic proportions, and by no less a figure than the Prime Minister.
Personalised earbuds.....soft furnishings....can we assume the media is now V V Bored with Covid and normal service is resuming? Back to the Things That Really Matter?
Labour MPs ripping the back out of their expense accounts, and Johnson getting bailouts from wealthy friends to fund his 'bon viveur' lifestyle, should not be stories hidden under the carpet of Covid.
The Johnson/NutNuts story smacks of a new Camelot. Johnson's Downing Street looks like a Poundland version of JFK's Whitehouse.
So when do you foresee a trip to the British equivalent of Dallas followed by the renaming of LHR to ABJ?
I don't like the Dallas connection, it is tasteless. Johnson deserves a hideous airport to bear his name nonetheless.
It is a complete stitch up , all the required evidence to show the government criminality is hidden by government orders, everybody knows it and reads about it , you just could not make it up. If this inquiry is anything other than a whitewash I will be amazed, only hope is Wightman gets a backbone and does not fold in with the SNP plants.
Wait. You're pro-independence but anti-SNP? Is there another Scottish independence party?
@malcolmg has principles. It's a big test for all of us: do we condemn or condone someone on the basis of what they did rather than who they are/what side they are on? I'm not sure I would pass.
I have been reading the back thread with amazement. Did Hyufd really take my flippant remark about England being the union of more than one kingdom and spend all night arguing about what would happen if Northumbria seceded?
This is where nationalism makes me laugh. Lines get drawn on a map. People then die to defend the lines they have drawn claiming they have always been theirs or belong to them by right or something. Its just a line.
If the argument is about the departure of Northumbria are we talking about the modern administrative county? The north of the Tyne rump Northumbria? Or the north of the Humber classic Northumbria? Its just a line drawn on a map...
I've sometimes what would have happened if Harold Godwinson had lost at Stamford Bridge, but managed to regroup and win at Hastings. Would there have been four medieval entities instead of three? (If Wales was ever actually one)
i suspect the normans would have come back with a bigger force later.
I still have something of a chip on my shoulder about the Norman Conquest. My view - and I am an amateur, and anyway, who can really know - is that Anglo Saxon England was both larger and more institutionally advanced than Normandy. The Normans defeating the Saxons was a bit of a freak event. The English were the first nation to suffer the rule of the Normans - but when the Normans then conquered Wales they had become "the English".
Weren't the Normans themselves only recently called Normans?
I thought the Normans were themselves Norse Vikings who had relatively recently invaded Normandy, conquered it, but then sworn fealty to the French in order to ensure they could keep it?
So the Anglo-Saxons may have been the first to have been conquered by the Normans but only if you reset the clock after they started calling themselves Normans instead of Norse.
Yesterday, I was demanding Rayner's head for her £250 personalised earbuds. And here I am a day later looking at a scam, by comparison, of Titanic proportions, and by no less a figure than the Prime Minister.
Personalised earbuds.....soft furnishings....can we assume the media is now V V Bored with Covid and normal service is resuming? Back to the Things That Really Matter?
Labour MPs ripping the back out of their expense accounts, and Johnson getting bailouts from wealthy friends to fund his 'bon viveur' lifestyle, should not be stories hidden under the carpet of Covid.
The Johnson/NutNuts story smacks of a new Camelot. Johnson's Downing Street looks like a Poundland version of JFK's Whitehouse.
NutNut? Seriously?
The full title is “Princess Nutnuts”. It’s a nickname of sheer genius implying:
1. She looks like a chipmunk 2. She is hideously entitled 3. She is insane
Cummings is the master of the apercu.
This is kindergarten nonsense, time to grow up
How do you feel about the Mail story, Big G?
Happy that Carrie is attempting to install her own personal Sans Souci, via some wheeze with Tory donors?
To be honest I have not read it, but if Carrie is attempting to win over contributions to decoration then that is not normal, but if it does not involve taxpayers than I am not over bothered, there are far more serious issues to deal with
But calling her childish names is like the junior school playground
Yesterday, I was demanding Rayner's head for her £250 personalised earbuds. And here I am a day later looking at a scam, by comparison, of Titanic proportions, and by no less a figure than the Prime Minister.
Personalised earbuds.....soft furnishings....can we assume the media is now V V Bored with Covid and normal service is resuming? Back to the Things That Really Matter?
Labour MPs ripping the back out of their expense accounts, and Johnson getting bailouts from wealthy friends to fund his 'bon viveur' lifestyle, should not be stories hidden under the carpet of Covid.
The Johnson/NutNuts story smacks of a new Camelot. Johnson's Downing Street looks like a Poundland version of JFK's Whitehouse.
NutNut? Seriously?
Sorry, I was being too informal. Forthwith I will only refer to her as Princess NutNuts.
I was wondering if someone could elucidate for me what the successor state of the UK would be if Scotland gained independence. [Innocent face]
Well, clearly the rest of the UK would go on being the UK. (And if Scotland goes, presumably NI goes too.)
Now as an Englishman of Anglo-Scots descent, I have no particular problem with that. I like Scotland, but also like Ireland, and I don't have to be in a political union with it to go on liking it. It's not going to be any less adjacent upon gaining independence. It'll still be two and a half hours up the M6. England will be financially richer without Scotland, but strategically poorer - we will no longer control such a swathe of the North Atlantic. But the point is, if Scotland wants to go it alone, it's really up to them.
But the big question remains - does 'England and Wales' still go on being called the UK? Or 'England and Wales'? And what does the flag look like - some kind of St. George's Cross / Welsh Dragon hybrid? I love the Welsh flag - it is one of the best flags in the world - but it would be odd to have the red dragon which, I believe, symbolises the fight against the white dragon of the English, on a flag representing Wales AND England. The only real way to resolve all this would be for England to declare independence from Wales.
In all seriousness, while I'd mentally bid adieu to Scotland some time ago - and I haven't actually been since the noughties (are the English still welcome in Scotland these days?) - the last few weeks has awoken a nostalgic unionism. Maybe I liked Britain better when it was all one country. Before 1997 I rarely used the word England; I called myself British, and only ever used England when talking about sport. I had a board game when I was young - the Great Game of Britain - in which one travelled by train around the UK visiting either major visitor attractions or places significant to the history of rail. It never occurred to me in those days not to think of Scotland, Wales and NI as part of the same country. Scottish culture was part of my culture; a trip to Inverness no more or less exotic or exciting than a trip to Great Yarmouth or Penzance or Bangor. The sound of the bagpipes was unmistakably Scottish, but also unmistakably British. Nowadays, my mental map of home stops at the River Tweed. I half wonder if there is a way to return to the days - if they really existed - when we were one country. Sadly, I suspect not - the direction of devolution is one-way, the Scottish establishment and culture now seems firmly in the hands of the nationalists, and English unionism gave up caring some time ago.
@Cookie Cookie, Scotland is full of English people nowadays, enjoying the good life. You just need to look at any programme nowadays on tourism , especially north of the highland line and nearly all the people are English who have chosen to get out of the rat race and are running businesses. Only people living in England think that Scots in any way do not like the English. Sell your hen hut down south and buy yourself a big house and a great life up north.
Nobody made the PM or his wife redecorate. I have this crazy idea that this voluntary act of expenditure should be funded by those that chose to make it. And who also live there.
In what sense is home decoration a charitable activity?
Because if it is, the CyclefreeExquisiteLakeDistrictHome Charity will be shaking its tin very shortly ........
In the case of the White House or Downing Street when it's not owned by the occupants (or any relatives or friends of theirs) - and in the case of Downing Street the occupants could be expelled at 24 hours notice.
Yesterday, I was demanding Rayner's head for her £250 personalised earbuds. And here I am a day later looking at a scam, by comparison, of Titanic proportions, and by no less a figure than the Prime Minister.
Personalised earbuds.....soft furnishings....can we assume the media is now V V Bored with Covid and normal service is resuming? Back to the Things That Really Matter?
Labour MPs ripping the back out of their expense accounts, and Johnson getting bailouts from wealthy friends to fund his 'bon viveur' lifestyle, should not be stories hidden under the carpet of Covid.
The Johnson/NutNuts story smacks of a new Camelot. Johnson's Downing Street looks like a Poundland version of JFK's Whitehouse.
NutNut? Seriously?
Stop trying to #cancel Pedro Mexicano. Your lot are pretending to be all about free speech these days remember.
It is a complete stitch up , all the required evidence to show the government criminality is hidden by government orders, everybody knows it and reads about it , you just could not make it up. If this inquiry is anything other than a whitewash I will be amazed, only hope is Wightman gets a backbone and does not fold in with the SNP plants.
Wait. You're pro-independence but anti-SNP? Is there another Scottish independence party?
There a couple more, I think, but, so far, quite small. Plus of course, the Greens and the Scottish Socialists.
Yesterday, I was demanding Rayner's head for her £250 personalised earbuds. And here I am a day later looking at a scam, by comparison, of Titanic proportions, and by no less a figure than the Prime Minister.
Personalised earbuds.....soft furnishings....can we assume the media is now V V Bored with Covid and normal service is resuming? Back to the Things That Really Matter?
Labour MPs ripping the back out of their expense accounts, and Johnson getting bailouts from wealthy friends to fund his 'bon viveur' lifestyle, should not be stories hidden under the carpet of Covid.
The Johnson/NutNuts story smacks of a new Camelot. Johnson's Downing Street looks like a Poundland version of JFK's Whitehouse.
NutNut? Seriously?
The full title is “Princess Nutnuts”. It’s a nickname of sheer genius implying:
1. She looks like a chipmunk 2. She is hideously entitled 3. She is insane
Cummings is the master of the apercu.
This is the full title -
Not strictly accurate, as a peanut is actually a legume.
I have been reading the back thread with amazement. Did Hyufd really take my flippant remark about England being the union of more than one kingdom and spend all night arguing about what would happen if Northumbria seceded?
I think he might have mentioned other ancient kingdoms.
I was wondering if someone could elucidate for me what the successor state of the UK would be if Scotland gained independence. [Innocent face]
Well, clearly the rest of the UK would go on being the UK. (And if Scotland goes, presumably NI goes too.)
Now as an Englishman of Anglo-Scots descent, I have no particular problem with that. I like Scotland, but also like Ireland, and I don't have to be in a political union with it to go on liking it. It's not going to be any less adjacent upon gaining independence. It'll still be two and a half hours up the M6. England will be financially richer without Scotland, but strategically poorer - we will no longer control such a swathe of the North Atlantic. But the point is, if Scotland wants to go it alone, it's really up to them.
But the big question remains - does 'England and Wales' still go on being called the UK? Or 'England and Wales'? And what does the flag look like - some kind of St. George's Cross / Welsh Dragon hybrid? I love the Welsh flag - it is one of the best flags in the world - but it would be odd to have the red dragon which, I believe, symbolises the fight against the white dragon of the English, on a flag representing Wales AND England. The only real way to resolve all this would be for England to declare independence from Wales.
In all seriousness, while I'd mentally bid adieu to Scotland some time ago - and I haven't actually been since the noughties (are the English still welcome in Scotland these days?) - the last few weeks has awoken a nostalgic unionism. Maybe I liked Britain better when it was all one country. Before 1997 I rarely used the word England; I called myself British, and only ever used England when talking about sport. I had a board game when I was young - the Great Game of Britain - in which one travelled by train around the UK visiting either major visitor attractions or places significant to the history of rail. It never occurred to me in those days not to think of Scotland, Wales and NI as part of the same country. Scottish culture was part of my culture; a trip to Inverness no more or less exotic or exciting than a trip to Great Yarmouth or Penzance or Bangor. The sound of the bagpipes was unmistakably Scottish, but also unmistakably British. Nowadays, my mental map of home stops at the River Tweed. I half wonder if there is a way to return to the days - if they really existed - when we were one country. Sadly, I suspect not - the direction of devolution is one-way, the Scottish establishment and culture now seems firmly in the hands of the nationalists, and English unionism gave up caring some time ago.
@Cookie Cookie, Scotland is full of English people nowadays, enjoying the good life. You just need to look at any programme nowadays on tourism , especially north of the highland line and nearly all the people are English who have chosen to get out of the rat race and are running businesses. Only people living in England think that Scots in any way do not like the English. Sell your hen hut down south and buy yourself a big house and a great life up north.
There's some truth in what Malcy says, but it is also undeniable that there is anti-English sentiment. And an unfortunate but probably inevitable outcome of identity politics is that the bampots who espouse it are emboldened.
It's possibly worse, in some respects, for pro-Union Scots who are routinely traduced on social media as "quislings", "traitors", etc. Some threads are truly awful. Happens both sides, of course, but you have to possess rhino-hide to be pro-Unionist these days.
Nobody made the PM or his wife redecorate. I have this crazy idea that this voluntary act of expenditure should be funded by those that chose to make it. And who also live there.
Only this grasping clown could imagine that his latest trick's vast redecoration bill should be picked up by "charity". Prime Ministers and their Spouses have complained about the Downing Street accommodation since times past - and yet all have resisted claiming that "charity" should pick up the bill as they redecorated "for the nation".
But lets not look at that. Far more fun to look north at he said she said as we get to the heart of the vast SNP conspiracy that culminated in 9 women deliberately perjuring themselves as part of a plot to jail the former leader of the SNP to advance the cause of the SNP or whatever.
Re your last paragraph it is the SNP involved in their own civil war, and as a matter of interest did you listen to all of Salmond’s testimony and if so not recognise just how serious this is for the SNP and has nothing to do with anything south of the border
G, UK civil servants are up to their necks in it, there are plenty of rogues in this stitch up, and for varying reasons.
I was wondering if someone could elucidate for me what the successor state of the UK would be if Scotland gained independence. [Innocent face]
Well, clearly the rest of the UK would go on being the UK. (And if Scotland goes, presumably NI goes too.)
Now as an Englishman of Anglo-Scots descent, I have no particular problem with that. I like Scotland, but also like Ireland, and I don't have to be in a political union with it to go on liking it. It's not going to be any less adjacent upon gaining independence. It'll still be two and a half hours up the M6. England will be financially richer without Scotland, but strategically poorer - we will no longer control such a swathe of the North Atlantic. But the point is, if Scotland wants to go it alone, it's really up to them.
But the big question remains - does 'England and Wales' still go on being called the UK? Or 'England and Wales'? And what does the flag look like - some kind of St. George's Cross / Welsh Dragon hybrid? I love the Welsh flag - it is one of the best flags in the world - but it would be odd to have the red dragon which, I believe, symbolises the fight against the white dragon of the English, on a flag representing Wales AND England. The only real way to resolve all this would be for England to declare independence from Wales.
In all seriousness, while I'd mentally bid adieu to Scotland some time ago - and I haven't actually been since the noughties (are the English still welcome in Scotland these days?) - the last few weeks has awoken a nostalgic unionism. Maybe I liked Britain better when it was all one country. Before 1997 I rarely used the word England; I called myself British, and only ever used England when talking about sport. I had a board game when I was young - the Great Game of Britain - in which one travelled by train around the UK visiting either major visitor attractions or places significant to the history of rail. It never occurred to me in those days not to think of Scotland, Wales and NI as part of the same country. Scottish culture was part of my culture; a trip to Inverness no more or less exotic or exciting than a trip to Great Yarmouth or Penzance or Bangor. The sound of the bagpipes was unmistakably Scottish, but also unmistakably British. Nowadays, my mental map of home stops at the River Tweed. I half wonder if there is a way to return to the days - if they really existed - when we were one country. Sadly, I suspect not - the direction of devolution is one-way, the Scottish establishment and culture now seems firmly in the hands of the nationalists, and English unionism gave up caring some time ago.
@Cookie Cookie, Scotland is full of English people nowadays, enjoying the good life. You just need to look at any programme nowadays on tourism , especially north of the highland line and nearly all the people are English who have chosen to get out of the rat race and are running businesses. Only people living in England think that Scots in any way do not like the English. Sell your hen hut down south and buy yourself a big house and a great life up north.
There's some truth in what Malcy says, but it is also undeniable that there is anti-English sentiment. And an unfortunate but probably inevitable outcome of identity politics is that the bampots who espouse it are emboldened.
It's possibly worse, in some respects, for pro-Union Scots who are routinely traduced on social media as "quislings", "traitors", etc. Some threads are truly awful. Happens both sides, of course, but you have to possess rhino-hide to be pro-Unionist these days.
Not sure who you mix with Burgessian, I am sure there are a good few low lifes that are anti - English but it is a very very small minority. Scotland as a whole is welcoming and especially to the English. PS: I would say anti Westminster sentiment is far more accurate.
Yesterday, I was demanding Rayner's head for her £250 personalised earbuds. And here I am a day later looking at a scam, by comparison, of Titanic proportions, and by no less a figure than the Prime Minister.
Personalised earbuds.....soft furnishings....can we assume the media is now V V Bored with Covid and normal service is resuming? Back to the Things That Really Matter?
Labour MPs ripping the back out of their expense accounts, and Johnson getting bailouts from wealthy friends to fund his 'bon viveur' lifestyle, should not be stories hidden under the carpet of Covid.
The Johnson/NutNuts story smacks of a new Camelot. Johnson's Downing Street looks like a Poundland version of JFK's Whitehouse.
NutNut? Seriously?
The full title is “Princess Nutnuts”. It’s a nickname of sheer genius implying:
1. She looks like a chipmunk 2. She is hideously entitled 3. She is insane
Cummings is the master of the apercu.
This is the full title -
Not strictly accurate, as a peanut is actually a legume.
You learn something every day, thanks for that Lucky.
I was wondering if someone could elucidate for me what the successor state of the UK would be if Scotland gained independence. [Innocent face]
Well, clearly the rest of the UK would go on being the UK. (And if Scotland goes, presumably NI goes too.)
Now as an Englishman of Anglo-Scots descent, I have no particular problem with that. I like Scotland, but also like Ireland, and I don't have to be in a political union with it to go on liking it. It's not going to be any less adjacent upon gaining independence. It'll still be two and a half hours up the M6. England will be financially richer without Scotland, but strategically poorer - we will no longer control such a swathe of the North Atlantic. But the point is, if Scotland wants to go it alone, it's really up to them.
But the big question remains - does 'England and Wales' still go on being called the UK? Or 'England and Wales'? And what does the flag look like - some kind of St. George's Cross / Welsh Dragon hybrid? I love the Welsh flag - it is one of the best flags in the world - but it would be odd to have the red dragon which, I believe, symbolises the fight against the white dragon of the English, on a flag representing Wales AND England. The only real way to resolve all this would be for England to declare independence from Wales.
In all seriousness, while I'd mentally bid adieu to Scotland some time ago - and I haven't actually been since the noughties (are the English still welcome in Scotland these days?) - the last few weeks has awoken a nostalgic unionism. Maybe I liked Britain better when it was all one country. Before 1997 I rarely used the word England; I called myself British, and only ever used England when talking about sport. I had a board game when I was young - the Great Game of Britain - in which one travelled by train around the UK visiting either major visitor attractions or places significant to the history of rail. It never occurred to me in those days not to think of Scotland, Wales and NI as part of the same country. Scottish culture was part of my culture; a trip to Inverness no more or less exotic or exciting than a trip to Great Yarmouth or Penzance or Bangor. The sound of the bagpipes was unmistakably Scottish, but also unmistakably British. Nowadays, my mental map of home stops at the River Tweed. I half wonder if there is a way to return to the days - if they really existed - when we were one country. Sadly, I suspect not - the direction of devolution is one-way, the Scottish establishment and culture now seems firmly in the hands of the nationalists, and English unionism gave up caring some time ago.
@Cookie Cookie, Scotland is full of English people nowadays, enjoying the good life. You just need to look at any programme nowadays on tourism , especially north of the highland line and nearly all the people are English who have chosen to get out of the rat race and are running businesses. Only people living in England think that Scots in any way do not like the English. Sell your hen hut down south and buy yourself a big house and a great life up north.
There's some truth in what Malcy says, but it is also undeniable that there is anti-English sentiment. And an unfortunate but probably inevitable outcome of identity politics is that the bampots who espouse it are emboldened.
It's possibly worse, in some respects, for pro-Union Scots who are routinely traduced on social media as "quislings", "traitors", etc. Some threads are truly awful. Happens both sides, of course, but you have to possess rhino-hide to be pro-Unionist these days.
Not sure who you mix with Burgessian, I am sure there are a good few low lifes that are anti - English but it is a very very small minority. Scotland as a whole is welcoming and especially to the English. PS: I would say anti Westminster sentiment is far more accurate.
Heard a distressing case of a child being victimised at school. Police called in eventually as teachers did nothing. But agree it's a minority - but they are loud and vocal.
I was wondering if someone could elucidate for me what the successor state of the UK would be if Scotland gained independence. [Innocent face]
Well, clearly the rest of the UK would go on being the UK. (And if Scotland goes, presumably NI goes too.)
Now as an Englishman of Anglo-Scots descent, I have no particular problem with that. I like Scotland, but also like Ireland, and I don't have to be in a political union with it to go on liking it. It's not going to be any less adjacent upon gaining independence. It'll still be two and a half hours up the M6. England will be financially richer without Scotland, but strategically poorer - we will no longer control such a swathe of the North Atlantic. But the point is, if Scotland wants to go it alone, it's really up to them.
But the big question remains - does 'England and Wales' still go on being called the UK? Or 'England and Wales'? And what does the flag look like - some kind of St. George's Cross / Welsh Dragon hybrid? I love the Welsh flag - it is one of the best flags in the world - but it would be odd to have the red dragon which, I believe, symbolises the fight against the white dragon of the English, on a flag representing Wales AND England. The only real way to resolve all this would be for England to declare independence from Wales.
In all seriousness, while I'd mentally bid adieu to Scotland some time ago - and I haven't actually been since the noughties (are the English still welcome in Scotland these days?) - the last few weeks has awoken a nostalgic unionism. Maybe I liked Britain better when it was all one country. Before 1997 I rarely used the word England; I called myself British, and only ever used England when talking about sport. I had a board game when I was young - the Great Game of Britain - in which one travelled by train around the UK visiting either major visitor attractions or places significant to the history of rail. It never occurred to me in those days not to think of Scotland, Wales and NI as part of the same country. Scottish culture was part of my culture; a trip to Inverness no more or less exotic or exciting than a trip to Great Yarmouth or Penzance or Bangor. The sound of the bagpipes was unmistakably Scottish, but also unmistakably British. Nowadays, my mental map of home stops at the River Tweed. I half wonder if there is a way to return to the days - if they really existed - when we were one country. Sadly, I suspect not - the direction of devolution is one-way, the Scottish establishment and culture now seems firmly in the hands of the nationalists, and English unionism gave up caring some time ago.
@Cookie Cookie, Scotland is full of English people nowadays, enjoying the good life. You just need to look at any programme nowadays on tourism , especially north of the highland line and nearly all the people are English who have chosen to get out of the rat race and are running businesses. Only people living in England think that Scots in any way do not like the English. Sell your hen hut down south and buy yourself a big house and a great life up north.
@malcolmg - I should emphasise that though I've not been to Scotland for over a decade now, I used to go quite a lot, I've been to virtually every corner of the country (not Orkney, Shetland or Aberdeen, but pretty much everywhere else) and have never once encountered any anti-English sentiment. Mind you, I've also had Scots express mild surprise that I'm English - clearly I have an accent tat is very neutral to Scottish ears! There has been plenty in the news over the past decade about increasingly anti-English sentiment - but we must always treat such things with a pinch of salt.
Not sure who you mix with Burgessian, I am sure there are a good few low lifes that are anti - English but it is a very very small minority. Scotland as a whole is welcoming and especially to the English. PS: I would say anti Westminster sentiment is far more accurate.
Give me a break. The last time my wife and I were in Scotland we both noticed the anti-English jibes that came about when she spoke with her American accent (typically "don't go to Edinburgh during the Festival, it's full of English" type of thing). Awful, awful place to visit if you are English.
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My chest feels off but better than yesterday, which was better than day before. Never felt really bad though, though I was worried on Sunday in case it kept deteriorating from there, didn't expect to be recovering already.
If it weren't for the Covid test being positive for her I'd have thought nothing more than a common cold for either of us - maybe that is what I have, who knows? Perhaps that's the vaccine doing its job suppressing her symptoms and if I have caught it giving me a small viral load to recover from?
Unfortunately that seems to have stopped even though it should be even easier under Covid (they had stopped some time before it).
How long would you be prepared to guarantee he could stay their without possibility of challenge and eviction at potentially hours notice?
Plenty of countries keep historical features in their flags. There is no need to change it all.
If this inquiry is anything other than a whitewash I will be amazed, only hope is Wightman gets a backbone and does not fold in with the SNP plants.
It’s a nickname of sheer genius implying:
1. She looks like a chipmunk
2. She is hideously entitled
3. She is insane
Cummings is the master of the apercu.
Teaching beckons. Have a good morning.
That said, despite the relatively small numbers which came over with the Normans, the Normans form part of my ancestry, along with that of everyone else of White British descent. So although an unconquered Britain might be rich and fair and happy, it wouldn't be me here to enjoy it.
(Yes I did listen to the whole testimony session except for the first 5 minutes
There was, undoubtedly, a lot of funny business going on, and it all certainly stinks. The question is how far was Sturgeon and her confreres mixed up in it.
Happy that Carrie is attempting to install her own personal Sans Souci, via some wheeze with Tory donors?
The swing towards the SNP and independence that occurred at the height of the public health crisis is, it seems, not guaranteed to be durable as and when the pandemic comes to an end.
Not via guillotines, I hasten to add.
I thought the Normans were themselves Norse Vikings who had relatively recently invaded Normandy, conquered it, but then sworn fealty to the French in order to ensure they could keep it?
So the Anglo-Saxons may have been the first to have been conquered by the Normans but only if you reset the clock after they started calling themselves Normans instead of Norse.
So it went Norse to Norman to English.
But calling her childish names is like the junior school playground
(Pisspoor wallpaper joke).
It's possibly worse, in some respects, for pro-Union Scots who are routinely traduced on social media as "quislings", "traitors", etc. Some threads are truly awful. Happens both sides, of course, but you have to possess rhino-hide to be pro-Unionist these days.
PS: I would say anti Westminster sentiment is far more accurate.
There has been plenty in the news over the past decade about increasingly anti-English sentiment - but we must always treat such things with a pinch of salt.