New US poll finds that if Trump decides to set up a new party 64% of Republicans would back it – politicalbetting.com
Scary Stat of the Day:In a new @thehill poll 64% of registered Republicans say they would be likely to join a new political party started by Donald Trump.https://t.co/hS4qiTPWpb pic.twitter.com/CAoMdtBgTV
[referring to the English troops] Duchess of Richmond: They're the salt of England, Arthur. Duke of Wellington: Scum. Nothing but beggars and scoundrels, all of them. Gin is the spirit of their patriotism. Duchess of Richmond: Yet you expect them to die for you? Duke of Wellington: Um-hum. Duchess of Richmond: Out of duty? Duke of Wellington: Um-hum. Duchess of Richmond: I doubt if even Bonaparte could draw men to him by duty. Duke of Wellington: Oh, Boney's not a gentleman. Duchess of Richmond: Arthur! What an Englishman you are. Duke of Wellington: On the field of battle his hat is worth fifty thousand men; but he is not a gentleman.
I don't think the GOP will split, the GOP will simply continue as the MAGA party.
The question is whether the MAGAists alone are sufficient for the GOP to win elections. I suspect not. I suspect the 2022 midterms will go a lot better for the Democrats than even they could hope.
If the GOP does split in time for 2024 then Biden will stay on and win a landslide on a Reagan 84 level.
If the GOP does split in time for 2024 then the Dems could run the office cat and win a landslide on a Reagan 84 level.
Like it or not, the GOP has to get the shit of its shoes or the smell will never go.
Plus, it is not just the Presidency. With a split Republican vote, the Democrats win that, yes.
It puts the whole electoral map in play. 60 seats in the Senate would go from impossible to possible. Maybe even likely. A Democrat presidency with the House and Senate would be a juggenaught.
If the GOP does split in time for 2024 then Biden will stay on and win a landslide on a Reagan 84 level.
If the GOP does split in time for 2024 then the Dems could run the office cat and win a landslide on a Reagan 84 level.
Like it or not, the GOP has to get the shit of its shoes or the smell will never go.
Right now the GOP are giving standing ovations to Marjorie Taylor Greene whilst censuring Ben Sasse for opposing the insurrection tells you the GOP is in a bad place.
I don't think the GOP will split, the GOP will simply continue as the MAGA party.
Do you think Trump is the likely candidate again then?
Not sure at this stage. Could be DeSantis, Hawley, Ivanka, Trump Jr
I've written him off and I hope that's not a bad call because I've started laying him and have well into 4 figs liability already. I do NOT want to see that man trading at a short price for the GOP nom this time next year.
Perhaps the remaining Republicans could join with the right wing of the Democratic party to form the Republican Democrats and the left wing could become the Liberal Democrats (American definition).
Perhaps the remaining Republicans could join with the right wing of the Democratic party to form the Republican Democrats and the left wing could become the Liberal Democrats (American definition).
There used to be the Democratic-Republican Party but given the way the GOP are they might best be co-opting the Know Nothing Movement/Party.
According to the polls how popular was a new pro Remain party going to be? Until it launched and the TIGgers found they'd bounced themselves out of a job.
The only parallel even approaching this was 1912 when former President Theodore Roosevelt set up the Progressive party and polled 27% in the election with Taft for the GOP on 23%. Woodrow Wilson took back the WH for the Democrats with 41% in a landslide.
Looking back at last November, Republicans voted 94-6 for Trump and Democrats 94-5 for Biden. The former were 36% of those who voted and the latter 37%. The key swing group were the 26% of Independents who backed Biden 54-41.
Crunching those numbers gives the Trump Party 35% of the vote with the Democrats on 47% leaving the GOP on just 17%. That looks like Democrat landslide territory to this observer.
To be fair to the Republicans, just eight years after the 1912 debacle, they regained the White House and controlled it for 12 years until Hoover was smashed in the first of FDR's four landslides.
According to the polls how popular was a new pro Remain party going to be? Until it launched and the TIGgers found they'd bounced themselves out of a job.
Sure, but that so many were so tempted even in theory was a sign things were not particularly healthy politically.
According to the polls how popular was a new pro Remain party going to be? Until it launched and the TIGgers found they'd bounced themselves out of a job.
I liked the irony of a party called Change UK that didn't want to change anything, really, thank you very much
I don't think the GOP will split, the GOP will simply continue as the MAGA party.
The question is whether the MAGAists alone are sufficient for the GOP to win elections. I suspect not. I suspect the 2022 midterms will go a lot better for the Democrats than even they could hope.
A MAGA party might do ok in the House, and a rump GOP might win back some of the suburbs from the Dems.
It is in the Senate that I'd expect a disaster for the right - MAGA could be expected to win in the truly deep red South and Appalachia. For the rump GOP, it could be a near wipe out in the Senate.
If the GOP does split in time for 2024 then Biden will stay on and win a landslide on a Reagan 84 level.
If the GOP does split in time for 2024 then the Dems could run the office cat and win a landslide on a Reagan 84 level.
Like it or not, the GOP has to get the shit of its shoes or the smell will never go.
Right now the GOP are giving standing ovations to Marjorie Taylor Greene whilst censuring Ben Sasse for opposing the insurrection tells you the GOP is in a bad place.
Yes, she's dreadful, and a bit bonkers. The UK equivalent would be the Tories giving a standing ovation to Katie Hopkins. Not a good look.
According to the polls how popular was a new pro Remain party going to be? Until it launched and the TIGgers found they'd bounced themselves out of a job.
I don't see any kind of comparison to be honest.
Trump isn't a single issue - he's a network of beliefs and ideas. I'd argue apart from wishing to Remain in the EU, the TIG group had very little in common.
It's more akin to the SDP schism from Labour in 1981 but even that comparison is flawed. The only equivalent would have been if, having been ousted in November 1990, Margaret Thatcher had left the Conservative Party and formed her own political movement.
According to the polls how popular was a new pro Remain party going to be? Until it launched and the TIGgers found they'd bounced themselves out of a job.
Remain had managed to shoot themselves in th feet in the Remainer Parliament that it was surprising they could stand at all.
Perhaps the remaining Republicans could join with the right wing of the Democratic party to form the Republican Democrats and the left wing could become the Liberal Democrats (American definition).
There used to be the Democratic-Republican Party but given the way the GOP are they might best be co-opting the Know Nothing Movement/Party.
If they are going to be led by Trump we should call them the Pseudo-Whigs.
According to the polls how popular was a new pro Remain party going to be? Until it launched and the TIGgers found they'd bounced themselves out of a job.
I liked the irony of a party called Change UK that didn't want to change anything, really, thank you very much
They were imitating the others in that respect. The Liberal Democrats are neither liberal not democratic, Labour don't represent those that actually work for a living, and nowadays the Conservatives would be better renamed as the Wreckers.
I don't think the GOP will split, the GOP will simply continue as the MAGA party.
The question is whether the MAGAists alone are sufficient for the GOP to win elections. I suspect not. I suspect the 2022 midterms will go a lot better for the Democrats than even they could hope.
A MAGA party might do ok in the House, and a rump GOP might win back some of the suburbs from the Dems.
It is in the Senate that I'd expect a disaster for the right - MAGA could be expected to win in the truly deep red South and Appalachia. For the rump GOP, it could be a near wipe out in the Senate.
Difficult to see how they would approach a democratic election given that it would be understood that they would only accept the result if they had won. i.e. They can’t reasonably be recognised as being legitimate unless they are prepared to accept the result should they lose. And lose they would, of course.
If the GOP does split in time for 2024 then Biden will stay on and win a landslide on a Reagan 84 level.
If the GOP does split in time for 2024 then the Dems could run the office cat and win a landslide on a Reagan 84 level.
Like it or not, the GOP has to get the shit of its shoes or the smell will never go.
Right now the GOP are giving standing ovations to Marjorie Taylor Greene whilst censuring Ben Sasse for opposing the insurrection tells you the GOP is in a bad place.
Yes, she's dreadful, and a bit bonkers. The UK equivalent would be the Tories giving a standing ovation to Katie Hopkins. Not a good look.
Does this mean they could bring forward some of the second jabs?
For AZ, 12 weeks is the recommendation, so I don't think they'd want to. We might be able to accelerate the first doses if supply ramps up quickly though.
All the pictures I've seen of people getting their jabs don't look very Covid-safe to me: just the most basic masks, and quite often even those are falling off. Plus in some cases they look as though they take place in rather confined spaces. Is that the experience of those that have been jabbed?
If the GOP does split in time for 2024 then Biden will stay on and win a landslide on a Reagan 84 level.
If the GOP does split in time for 2024 then the Dems could run the office cat and win a landslide on a Reagan 84 level.
Like it or not, the GOP has to get the shit of its shoes or the smell will never go.
Right now the GOP are giving standing ovations to Marjorie Taylor Greene whilst censuring Ben Sasse for opposing the insurrection tells you the GOP is in a bad place.
Yes, she's dreadful, and a bit bonkers. The UK equivalent would be the Tories giving a standing ovation to Katie Hopkins. Not a good look.
Labour giving a standing ovation to Piers Corbyn.
If it had happened that his brother was in charge I wonder what the reception might have been?
If the GOP does split in time for 2024 then Biden will stay on and win a landslide on a Reagan 84 level.
If the GOP does split in time for 2024 then the Dems could run the office cat and win a landslide on a Reagan 84 level.
Like it or not, the GOP has to get the shit of its shoes or the smell will never go.
Right now the GOP are giving standing ovations to Marjorie Taylor Greene whilst censuring Ben Sasse for opposing the insurrection tells you the GOP is in a bad place.
Yes, she's dreadful, and a bit bonkers. The UK equivalent would be the Tories giving a standing ovation to Katie Hopkins. Not a good look.
Labour giving a standing ovation to Piers Corbyn.
The SNP giving a standing ovation to Denise Findlay (bit niche)
If the GOP does split in time for 2024 then Biden will stay on and win a landslide on a Reagan 84 level.
If the GOP does split in time for 2024 then the Dems could run the office cat and win a landslide on a Reagan 84 level.
Like it or not, the GOP has to get the shit of its shoes or the smell will never go.
Right now the GOP are giving standing ovations to Marjorie Taylor Greene whilst censuring Ben Sasse for opposing the insurrection tells you the GOP is in a bad place.
Yes, she's dreadful, and a bit bonkers. The UK equivalent would be the Tories giving a standing ovation to Katie Hopkins. Not a good look.
Labour giving a standing ovation to Piers Corbyn.
Yes, and the trouble is that people like this are not actually bonkers. They are in many ways perfectly normal and intelligent and have many admirable traits. The problem is that they have the political intelligence of eleven year olds.
And of course the same has to be said for many of their followers.
According to the polls how popular was a new pro Remain party going to be? Until it launched and the TIGgers found they'd bounced themselves out of a job.
The LDs, Greens and SNP were already Remain parties as latterly were Labour in terms of EUref2, so there was little demand for TIG.
When May failed to deliver Brexit in 2019 however, the Brexit Party took most of the Tory vote until Boris replaced her.
[referring to the English troops] Duchess of Richmond: They're the salt of England, Arthur. Duke of Wellington: Scum. Nothing but beggars and scoundrels, all of them. Gin is the spirit of their patriotism. Duchess of Richmond: Yet you expect them to die for you? Duke of Wellington: Um-hum. Duchess of Richmond: Out of duty? Duke of Wellington: Um-hum. Duchess of Richmond: I doubt if even Bonaparte could draw men to him by duty. Duke of Wellington: Oh, Boney's not a gentleman. Duchess of Richmond: Arthur! What an Englishman you are. Duke of Wellington: On the field of battle his hat is worth fifty thousand men; but he is not a gentleman.
If the GOP does split in time for 2024 then Biden will stay on and win a landslide on a Reagan 84 level.
If the GOP does split in time for 2024 then the Dems could run the office cat and win a landslide on a Reagan 84 level.
Like it or not, the GOP has to get the shit of its shoes or the smell will never go.
Right now the GOP are giving standing ovations to Marjorie Taylor Greene whilst censuring Ben Sasse for opposing the insurrection tells you the GOP is in a bad place.
Yes, she's dreadful, and a bit bonkers. The UK equivalent would be the Tories giving a standing ovation to Katie Hopkins. Not a good look.
Labour giving a standing ovation to Piers Corbyn.
If it had happened that his brother was in charge I wonder what the reception might have been?
We got so close to a disaster.
We got the disaster. It’s just not the special Corbyn disaster.
Would imply average deliveries of over 4m doses a week between now and then. Add in Pfizer, and Moderna coming in Q2, and the May target for first doses today should really be the entire population.
[referring to the English troops] Duchess of Richmond: They're the salt of England, Arthur. Duke of Wellington: Scum. Nothing but beggars and scoundrels, all of them. Gin is the spirit of their patriotism. Duchess of Richmond: Yet you expect them to die for you? Duke of Wellington: Um-hum. Duchess of Richmond: Out of duty? Duke of Wellington: Um-hum. Duchess of Richmond: I doubt if even Bonaparte could draw men to him by duty. Duke of Wellington: Oh, Boney's not a gentleman. Duchess of Richmond: Arthur! What an Englishman you are. Duke of Wellington: On the field of battle his hat is worth fifty thousand men; but he is not a gentleman.
Arthur, of course, being Irish
This was surely his best film though, if not his best role. Here with another recently departed actor, Sean Connery: https://youtu.be/rmZbCwmOC6I
If the GOP does split in time for 2024 then Biden will stay on and win a landslide on a Reagan 84 level.
If the GOP does split in time for 2024 then the Dems could run the office cat and win a landslide on a Reagan 84 level.
Like it or not, the GOP has to get the shit of its shoes or the smell will never go.
Right now the GOP are giving standing ovations to Marjorie Taylor Greene whilst censuring Ben Sasse for opposing the insurrection tells you the GOP is in a bad place.
Yes, she's dreadful, and a bit bonkers. The UK equivalent would be the Tories giving a standing ovation to Katie Hopkins. Not a good look.
Labour giving a standing ovation to Piers Corbyn.
If it had happened that his brother was in charge I wonder what the reception might have been?
We got so close to a disaster.
We got the disaster. It’s just not the special Corbyn disaster.
All the pictures I've seen of people getting their jabs don't look very Covid-safe to me: just the most basic masks, and quite often even those are falling off. Plus in some cases they look as though they take place in rather confined spaces. Is that the experience of those that have been jabbed?
All the pictures I've seen of people getting their jabs don't look very Covid-safe to me: just the most basic masks, and quite often even those are falling off. Plus in some cases they look as though they take place in rather confined spaces. Is that the experience of those that have been jabbed?
I doubt that masks are a serious issue: AIUI length of exposure is pertinent to transmission as well as proximity. If the person giving the vaccine and the person receiving it are going to be sat opposite one another for thirty seconds or a minute then one would've thought that a basic surgical mask would be entirely adequate.
Beyond that I can't comment from personal experience: I'll be waiting a long time for my turn.
I don't think the GOP will split, the GOP will simply continue as the MAGA party.
The question is whether the MAGAists alone are sufficient for the GOP to win elections. I suspect not. I suspect the 2022 midterms will go a lot better for the Democrats than even they could hope.
A MAGA party might do ok in the House, and a rump GOP might win back some of the suburbs from the Dems.
It is in the Senate that I'd expect a disaster for the right - MAGA could be expected to win in the truly deep red South and Appalachia. For the rump GOP, it could be a near wipe out in the Senate.
That sounds about right, Tim. Presumably you can confirm that it is decades of gerrymandering that contributes greatly towards this paradox.
'Scottish independence: Are unionists fighting a losing battle?'
tinyurl.com/10wh5b22
I know there's a big Kevin Hague fan on PB.
'“Some unionists feel like they are fighting a losing battle,” conceded Kevin Hague, a Scotland-based entrepreneur, pro-UK campaigner and chairman of These Islands, a pro-union think-tank.'
It should surprise no one that Kevin is taking the standard Unionist coward's way out of avoiding that losing battle by refusing to let it take place.
'“It’s absolutely true that those campaigning for separation have got more momentum and a greater sense of readiness for a referendum than those who would defend the union,” he said. But, he added, even if the SNP were to gain majority control of the Scottish Parliament, and manage to legislate for a second independence poll, “there isn’t going to be an independence referendum anytime soon”.'
However Hawley clearly presenting himself as the dream candidate for the MAGA crowd, he is also far brighter than most of the Trumpites, educated at Stanford and Yale law school and a former associate professor and lawyer.
[referring to the English troops] Duchess of Richmond: They're the salt of England, Arthur. Duke of Wellington: Scum. Nothing but beggars and scoundrels, all of them. Gin is the spirit of their patriotism. Duchess of Richmond: Yet you expect them to die for you? Duke of Wellington: Um-hum. Duchess of Richmond: Out of duty? Duke of Wellington: Um-hum. Duchess of Richmond: I doubt if even Bonaparte could draw men to him by duty. Duke of Wellington: Oh, Boney's not a gentleman. Duchess of Richmond: Arthur! What an Englishman you are. Duke of Wellington: On the field of battle his hat is worth fifty thousand men; but he is not a gentleman.
Arthur, of course, being Irish
This was surely his best film though, if not his best role. Here with another recently departed actor, Sean Connery: https://youtu.be/rmZbCwmOC6I
A great clip - history and a nice flourish of English for you I guess.
I'm impressed that you thought of linking the scene.
'Scottish independence: Are unionists fighting a losing battle?'
tinyurl.com/10wh5b22
I know there's a big Kevin Hague fan on PB.
'“Some unionists feel like they are fighting a losing battle,” conceded Kevin Hague, a Scotland-based entrepreneur, pro-UK campaigner and chairman of These Islands, a pro-union think-tank.'
It should surprise no one that Kevin is taking the standard Unionist coward's way out of avoiding that losing battle by refusing to let it take place.
'“It’s absolutely true that those campaigning for separation have got more momentum and a greater sense of readiness for a referendum than those who would defend the union,” he said. But, he added, even if the SNP were to gain majority control of the Scottish Parliament, and manage to legislate for a second independence poll, “there isn’t going to be an independence referendum anytime soon”.'
His last sentence is correct, Boris will not allow a legal indyref2 nor recognise the result.
Does this mean they could bring forward some of the second jabs?
AZ will stay at 12 weeks as the evidence suggests this is the best interval. I expect us to smash the obviously fake new Hancock target though. Classic scotty engineering estimate for all you Trekkies...
[referring to the English troops] Duchess of Richmond: They're the salt of England, Arthur. Duke of Wellington: Scum. Nothing but beggars and scoundrels, all of them. Gin is the spirit of their patriotism. Duchess of Richmond: Yet you expect them to die for you? Duke of Wellington: Um-hum. Duchess of Richmond: Out of duty? Duke of Wellington: Um-hum. Duchess of Richmond: I doubt if even Bonaparte could draw men to him by duty. Duke of Wellington: Oh, Boney's not a gentleman. Duchess of Richmond: Arthur! What an Englishman you are. Duke of Wellington: On the field of battle his hat is worth fifty thousand men; but he is not a gentleman.
Arthur, of course, being Irish
This was surely his best film though, if not his best role. Here with another recently departed actor, Sean Connery: https://youtu.be/rmZbCwmOC6I
Prediction: England will eventually end up last according to this metric, vaccine hesitancy amongst some BAME communities being the determining factor.
All the pictures I've seen of people getting their jabs don't look very Covid-safe to me: just the most basic masks, and quite often even those are falling off. Plus in some cases they look as though they take place in rather confined spaces. Is that the experience of those that have been jabbed?
Limited time in proximity to people though. All looks pretty social distanced for most of the time people are there. Plus I believe the jabbers have usually been jabbed.
'Scottish independence: Are unionists fighting a losing battle?'
tinyurl.com/10wh5b22
I know there's a big Kevin Hague fan on PB.
'“Some unionists feel like they are fighting a losing battle,” conceded Kevin Hague, a Scotland-based entrepreneur, pro-UK campaigner and chairman of These Islands, a pro-union think-tank.'
It should surprise no one that Kevin is taking the standard Unionist coward's way out of avoiding that losing battle by refusing to let it take place.
'“It’s absolutely true that those campaigning for separation have got more momentum and a greater sense of readiness for a referendum than those who would defend the union,” he said. But, he added, even if the SNP were to gain majority control of the Scottish Parliament, and manage to legislate for a second independence poll, “there isn’t going to be an independence referendum anytime soon”.'
His last sentence is correct
I think all his sentences are correct. However, that doesn't mean he's being particularly hypocritical, which seems to be the implication. Is there a rule that Indyref 2 must take place at a time most convenient electorally for the Yes side? If there is, it seems an odd one.
Does this mean they could bring forward some of the second jabs?
AZ will stay at 12 weeks as the evidence suggests this is the best interval. I expect us to smash the obviously fake new Hancock target though. Classic scotty engineering estimate for all you Trekkies...
End of April would be a good solid target for all adults - it's laughable expectation gaming for over 50s
Does this mean they could bring forward some of the second jabs?
AZ will stay at 12 weeks as the evidence suggests this is the best interval. I expect us to smash the obviously fake new Hancock target though. Classic scotty engineering estimate for all you Trekkies...
If so then Hancock's an amateur. He should know always to multiply his estimates by a factor of four
Does this mean they could bring forward some of the second jabs?
AZ will stay at 12 weeks as the evidence suggests this is the best interval. I expect us to smash the obviously fake new Hancock target though. Classic scotty engineering estimate for all you Trekkies...
Indeed, we've just got to get cracking, 100m doses in H1 means they will be running the production at full capacity this month some time which means 5m doses per week delivered. It's genuinely great news.
'Scottish independence: Are unionists fighting a losing battle?'
tinyurl.com/10wh5b22
I know there's a big Kevin Hague fan on PB.
'“Some unionists feel like they are fighting a losing battle,” conceded Kevin Hague, a Scotland-based entrepreneur, pro-UK campaigner and chairman of These Islands, a pro-union think-tank.'
It should surprise no one that Kevin is taking the standard Unionist coward's way out of avoiding that losing battle by refusing to let it take place.
'“It’s absolutely true that those campaigning for separation have got more momentum and a greater sense of readiness for a referendum than those who would defend the union,” he said. But, he added, even if the SNP were to gain majority control of the Scottish Parliament, and manage to legislate for a second independence poll, “there isn’t going to be an independence referendum anytime soon”.'
His last sentence is correct, Boris will not allow a legal indyref2 nor recognise the result.
Does this mean they could bring forward some of the second jabs?
AZ will stay at 12 weeks as the evidence suggests this is the best interval. I expect us to smash the obviously fake new Hancock target though. Classic scotty engineering estimate for all you Trekkies...
End of April would be a good solid target for all adults - it's laughable expectation gaming for over 50s
Ah, but we have higher expectations because we sit here yakking about the figures, because we're s̶t̶r̶a̶n̶g̶e̶ atypically interested. Average Joe Public isn't.
If the GOP does split in time for 2024 then Biden will stay on and win a landslide on a Reagan 84 level.
If the GOP does split in time for 2024 then the Dems could run the office cat and win a landslide on a Reagan 84 level.
Like it or not, the GOP has to get the shit of its shoes or the smell will never go.
Right now the GOP are giving standing ovations to Marjorie Taylor Greene whilst censuring Ben Sasse for opposing the insurrection tells you the GOP is in a bad place.
Yes, she's dreadful, and a bit bonkers. The UK equivalent would be the Tories giving a standing ovation to Katie Hopkins. Not a good look.
Got this email from Matt Gaetz just now - indicative of the fact that the Trumpists, in true Stalinist fashion, are more interested in purity and fighting their own, rather than facing the enemy:
"Patriot -
"We have the RINO Establishment in panic mode.
"Hundreds of patriots stood with me at the Wyoming Capitol to call out Liz Cheney and her America-Last policies that serve the interests of her corporate warlords and not the American people.
"We need to send a clear message → President Trump’s America First movement is the guiding doctrine of the real Republican Party - not the corporate crony vision of Liz Cheney, Mitt Romney, and the rest of the RINOs in Washington."
Does this mean they could bring forward some of the second jabs?
AZ will stay at 12 weeks as the evidence suggests this is the best interval. I expect us to smash the obviously fake new Hancock target though. Classic scotty engineering estimate for all you Trekkies...
End of April would be a good solid target for all adults - it's laughable expectation gaming for over 50s
Ah, but we have higher expectations because we sit here yakking about the figures, because we're s̶t̶r̶a̶n̶g̶e̶ atypically interested. Average Joe Public isn't.
and Joe journalist is so comically innumerate that they don't instantly report the 'target' is cynical expectations management
[referring to the English troops] Duchess of Richmond: They're the salt of England, Arthur. Duke of Wellington: Scum. Nothing but beggars and scoundrels, all of them. Gin is the spirit of their patriotism. Duchess of Richmond: Yet you expect them to die for you? Duke of Wellington: Um-hum. Duchess of Richmond: Out of duty? Duke of Wellington: Um-hum. Duchess of Richmond: I doubt if even Bonaparte could draw men to him by duty. Duke of Wellington: Oh, Boney's not a gentleman. Duchess of Richmond: Arthur! What an Englishman you are. Duke of Wellington: On the field of battle his hat is worth fifty thousand men; but he is not a gentleman.
1. That hasn't stopped Hungary 2. Might not stop the rest of them if they're sufficiently desperate 3. Oxford/AZ was developed in Satanic Brexitland, hence the regulatory misgivings. Sputnik V, on the other hand, comes from Putin's Russia. So that's OK.
'Scottish independence: Are unionists fighting a losing battle?'
tinyurl.com/10wh5b22
I know there's a big Kevin Hague fan on PB.
'“Some unionists feel like they are fighting a losing battle,” conceded Kevin Hague, a Scotland-based entrepreneur, pro-UK campaigner and chairman of These Islands, a pro-union think-tank.'
It should surprise no one that Kevin is taking the standard Unionist coward's way out of avoiding that losing battle by refusing to let it take place.
'“It’s absolutely true that those campaigning for separation have got more momentum and a greater sense of readiness for a referendum than those who would defend the union,” he said. But, he added, even if the SNP were to gain majority control of the Scottish Parliament, and manage to legislate for a second independence poll, “there isn’t going to be an independence referendum anytime soon”.'
His last sentence is correct, Boris will not allow a legal indyref2 nor recognise the result.
However Hawley clearly presenting himself as the dream candidate for the MAGA crowd, he is also far brighter than most of the Trumpites, educated at Stanford and Yale law school and a former associate professor and lawyer.
I see his point though -the woke left try to silence conservatives, while Hawley openly supports those who spread lies in order to try to steal an election that was lost, and encourage people to take violent action, which means he totally holds the moral high ground.
'Scottish independence: Are unionists fighting a losing battle?'
tinyurl.com/10wh5b22
I know there's a big Kevin Hague fan on PB.
'“Some unionists feel like they are fighting a losing battle,” conceded Kevin Hague, a Scotland-based entrepreneur, pro-UK campaigner and chairman of These Islands, a pro-union think-tank.'
It should surprise no one that Kevin is taking the standard Unionist coward's way out of avoiding that losing battle by refusing to let it take place.
'“It’s absolutely true that those campaigning for separation have got more momentum and a greater sense of readiness for a referendum than those who would defend the union,” he said. But, he added, even if the SNP were to gain majority control of the Scottish Parliament, and manage to legislate for a second independence poll, “there isn’t going to be an independence referendum anytime soon”.'
His last sentence is correct, Boris will not allow a legal indyref2 nor recognise the result.
Sure, I know that BJ is also a coward.
Even more reason he will not allow it as if he lost it he would have to leave No 10
[referring to the English troops] Duchess of Richmond: They're the salt of England, Arthur. Duke of Wellington: Scum. Nothing but beggars and scoundrels, all of them. Gin is the spirit of their patriotism. Duchess of Richmond: Yet you expect them to die for you? Duke of Wellington: Um-hum. Duchess of Richmond: Out of duty? Duke of Wellington: Um-hum. Duchess of Richmond: I doubt if even Bonaparte could draw men to him by duty. Duke of Wellington: Oh, Boney's not a gentleman. Duchess of Richmond: Arthur! What an Englishman you are. Duke of Wellington: On the field of battle his hat is worth fifty thousand men; but he is not a gentleman.
Arthur, of course, being Irish
Nonsense. As the great man said, being born in a stable, does not make one a horse...
I've received several emails from companies offering online meeting training today, one of which directly referenced them - fast moving work, which is good as a meme like this has a half life of around a day.
If the GOP does split in time for 2024 then Biden will stay on and win a landslide on a Reagan 84 level.
If the GOP does split in time for 2024 then the Dems could run the office cat and win a landslide on a Reagan 84 level.
Like it or not, the GOP has to get the shit of its shoes or the smell will never go.
Right now the GOP are giving standing ovations to Marjorie Taylor Greene whilst censuring Ben Sasse for opposing the insurrection tells you the GOP is in a bad place.
Yes, she's dreadful, and a bit bonkers. The UK equivalent would be the Tories giving a standing ovation to Katie Hopkins. Not a good look.
Got this email from Matt Gaetz just now - indicative of the fact that the Trumpists, in true Stalinist fashion, are more interested in purity and fighting their own, rather than facing the enemy:
"Patriot -
"We have the RINO Establishment in panic mode.
"Hundreds of patriots stood with me at the Wyoming Capitol to call out Liz Cheney and her America-Last policies that serve the interests of her corporate warlords and not the American people.
"We need to send a clear message → President Trump’s America First movement is the guiding doctrine of the real Republican Party - not the corporate crony vision of Liz Cheney, Mitt Romney, and the rest of the RINOs in Washington."
Much like Corbynites from 2015 to 2020, for Trumpites gaining control of the party is the main aim
[referring to the English troops] Duchess of Richmond: They're the salt of England, Arthur. Duke of Wellington: Scum. Nothing but beggars and scoundrels, all of them. Gin is the spirit of their patriotism. Duchess of Richmond: Yet you expect them to die for you? Duke of Wellington: Um-hum. Duchess of Richmond: Out of duty? Duke of Wellington: Um-hum. Duchess of Richmond: I doubt if even Bonaparte could draw men to him by duty. Duke of Wellington: Oh, Boney's not a gentleman. Duchess of Richmond: Arthur! What an Englishman you are. Duke of Wellington: On the field of battle his hat is worth fifty thousand men; but he is not a gentleman.
'Scottish independence: Are unionists fighting a losing battle?'
tinyurl.com/10wh5b22
I know there's a big Kevin Hague fan on PB.
'“Some unionists feel like they are fighting a losing battle,” conceded Kevin Hague, a Scotland-based entrepreneur, pro-UK campaigner and chairman of These Islands, a pro-union think-tank.'
It should surprise no one that Kevin is taking the standard Unionist coward's way out of avoiding that losing battle by refusing to let it take place.
'“It’s absolutely true that those campaigning for separation have got more momentum and a greater sense of readiness for a referendum than those who would defend the union,” he said. But, he added, even if the SNP were to gain majority control of the Scottish Parliament, and manage to legislate for a second independence poll, “there isn’t going to be an independence referendum anytime soon”.'
His last sentence is correct
I think all his sentences are correct. However, that doesn't mean he's being particularly hypocritical, which seems to be the implication. Is there a rule that Indyref 2 must take place at a time most convenient electorally for the Yes side? If there is, it seems an odd one.
A general opinion is that referendums take place when the electorate vote for them to take place. There definitely isn't a rule that they shouldn't take place because it's inconvenient electorally for the No side, except in the heads of the No side.
'Scottish independence: Are unionists fighting a losing battle?'
tinyurl.com/10wh5b22
I know there's a big Kevin Hague fan on PB.
'“Some unionists feel like they are fighting a losing battle,” conceded Kevin Hague, a Scotland-based entrepreneur, pro-UK campaigner and chairman of These Islands, a pro-union think-tank.'
It should surprise no one that Kevin is taking the standard Unionist coward's way out of avoiding that losing battle by refusing to let it take place.
'“It’s absolutely true that those campaigning for separation have got more momentum and a greater sense of readiness for a referendum than those who would defend the union,” he said. But, he added, even if the SNP were to gain majority control of the Scottish Parliament, and manage to legislate for a second independence poll, “there isn’t going to be an independence referendum anytime soon”.'
His last sentence is correct, Boris will not allow a legal indyref2 nor recognise the result.
You are in denial over an inevitable outcome. Should the SNP introduce an Independence referendum that they win, the pressure on the UK Government would be immense. The harder and longer they kick back, the greater the inevitability and the greater the support.
You are right (from your multiple previous posts) that a military engagement is Johnson's last resort option over Scotland. Your troops by then might be otherwise engaged in Jeffrey Donaldson's wet dream of removing the border in the North Channel and having no physical land borders. Surely that means annexing the South by force.
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Cheerio, Republican Party....
https://youtu.be/3DcWJrzK0wU?t=2305
[referring to the English troops]
Duchess of Richmond: They're the salt of England, Arthur.
Duke of Wellington: Scum. Nothing but beggars and scoundrels, all of them. Gin is the spirit of their patriotism.
Duchess of Richmond: Yet you expect them to die for you?
Duke of Wellington: Um-hum.
Duchess of Richmond: Out of duty?
Duke of Wellington: Um-hum.
Duchess of Richmond: I doubt if even Bonaparte could draw men to him by duty.
Duke of Wellington: Oh, Boney's not a gentleman.
Duchess of Richmond: Arthur! What an Englishman you are.
Duke of Wellington: On the field of battle his hat is worth fifty thousand men; but he is not a gentleman.
Like it or not, the GOP has to get the shit of its shoes or the smell will never go.
It puts the whole electoral map in play. 60 seats in the Senate would go from impossible to possible. Maybe even likely. A Democrat presidency with the House and Senate would be a juggenaught.
https://twitter.com/thoughtland/status/1357760699439669250?s=20
RIP Christopher Plummer is a sentiment that I echo though.
According to the polls how popular was a new pro Remain party going to be? Until it launched and the TIGgers found they'd bounced themselves out of a job.
The only parallel even approaching this was 1912 when former President Theodore Roosevelt set up the Progressive party and polled 27% in the election with Taft for the GOP on 23%. Woodrow Wilson took back the WH for the Democrats with 41% in a landslide.
Looking back at last November, Republicans voted 94-6 for Trump and Democrats 94-5 for Biden. The former were 36% of those who voted and the latter 37%. The key swing group were the 26% of Independents who backed Biden 54-41.
Crunching those numbers gives the Trump Party 35% of the vote with the Democrats on 47% leaving the GOP on just 17%. That looks like Democrat landslide territory to this observer.
To be fair to the Republicans, just eight years after the 1912 debacle, they regained the White House and controlled it for 12 years until Hoover was smashed in the first of FDR's four landslides.
But Democrats have the same issue with Bernieites.
But being President is less important than who wins seats in the Congress.
In the internet age, its less important to have 15 minutes of fame but more to see 15 consonants published.
It is in the Senate that I'd expect a disaster for the right - MAGA could be expected to win in the truly deep red South and Appalachia. For the rump GOP, it could be a near wipe out in the Senate.
Trump isn't a single issue - he's a network of beliefs and ideas. I'd argue apart from wishing to Remain in the EU, the TIG group had very little in common.
It's more akin to the SDP schism from Labour in 1981 but even that comparison is flawed. The only equivalent would have been if, having been ousted in November 1990, Margaret Thatcher had left the Conservative Party and formed her own political movement.
If they had shown some actual courage...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iv55nWACoCM
They cannot afford to vote to acquit him and see him set up his own party when 90% of Republican voters want to acquit him.
https://twitter.com/ByronYork/status/1356317630320279553?s=20
So most likely the vote will go on party lines, a majority will vote to convict him but not by the 2/3 majority required
We got so close to a disaster.
And of course the same has to be said for many of their followers.
When May failed to deliver Brexit in 2019 however, the Brexit Party took most of the Tory vote until Boris replaced her.
https://twitter.com/ElectionMapsUK/status/1357723321601826816?s=20
https://youtu.be/rmZbCwmOC6I
All perfectly orderly and safe.
But it was Cheltenham. Civilised sorts.
Not to mention the other vaccines on the way.
Beyond that I can't comment from personal experience: I'll be waiting a long time for my turn.
https://twitter.com/PermSecScot/status/1357364018676191235?s=20
tinyurl.com/10wh5b22
I know there's a big Kevin Hague fan on PB.
'“Some unionists feel like they are fighting a losing battle,” conceded Kevin Hague, a Scotland-based entrepreneur, pro-UK campaigner and chairman of These Islands, a pro-union think-tank.'
It should surprise no one that Kevin is taking the standard Unionist coward's way out of avoiding that losing battle by refusing to let it take place.
'“It’s absolutely true that those campaigning for separation have got more momentum and a greater sense of readiness for a referendum than those who would defend the union,” he said.
But, he added, even if the SNP were to gain majority control of the Scottish Parliament, and manage to legislate for a second independence poll, “there isn’t going to be an independence referendum anytime soon”.'
People have been sent to ConHome for less, Lucky.
https://twitter.com/Politics_Polls/status/1356836849533284352?s=20
However Hawley clearly presenting himself as the dream candidate for the MAGA crowd, he is also far brighter than most of the Trumpites, educated at Stanford and Yale law school and a former associate professor and lawyer.
https://twitter.com/HawleyMO/status/1357719042677764098?s=20
I'm impressed that you thought of linking the scene.
"Patriot -
"We have the RINO Establishment in panic mode.
"Hundreds of patriots stood with me at the Wyoming Capitol to call out Liz Cheney and her America-Last policies that serve the interests of her corporate warlords and not the American people.
"We need to send a clear message → President Trump’s America First movement is the guiding doctrine of the real Republican Party - not the corporate crony vision of Liz Cheney, Mitt Romney, and the rest of the RINOs in Washington."
2. Might not stop the rest of them if they're sufficiently desperate
3. Oxford/AZ was developed in Satanic Brexitland, hence the regulatory misgivings. Sputnik V, on the other hand, comes from Putin's Russia. So that's OK.
There definitely isn't a rule that they shouldn't take place because it's inconvenient electorally for the No side, except in the heads of the No side.
You are right (from your multiple previous posts) that a military engagement is Johnson's last resort option over Scotland. Your troops by then might be otherwise engaged in Jeffrey Donaldson's wet dream of removing the border in the North Channel and having no physical land borders. Surely that means annexing the South by force.