Wasn't someone on earlier saying these pics were probably not even current and possibly staged (by the EU and ScotGov funded ‘trade association' no doubt)?
Its the apocalypsofuck. These industries are going to collapse. Not because of a referendum asking if we should leave the EU. Because of political decisions to destroy British trade to appease morons.
Amazing that they managed 20x just the day before.
A magnificent 40% instant drop vs normal, with some days an absolute ghost town! Thats what every healthy business looks like. Obviously.
I've read that Melania Trump hasn't followed the tradition of previous First ladies by offering Jill Biden tea and a tour of the White House.
That just sounds mean-spirited and so typical of the Trump brand.
I wouldn't accept without a FFP3 mask and airtight goggles given how covid-happy the Trumps are - and that rather obviates the tea bit.
No-one voted for Melania Trump and no-one voted for Jill Biden. The whole First Lady thing is overblown.
Not really, certainly NOT in American history. Because the President is NOT just head of government, but also head of state. Thus from 1789 through 2021, the wife of the President has the same (or very similar) social and cultural status as Prince Philip.
When I say social do NOT mean upper-crust society of the hoity-toity kind, even in half-baked colonial fashion. Instead, the expectations of the mass of American people, most especially the majority of American woman.
My own mother, a child of the Great Depression who did not outlive the Reagan administration, was definitely a Democrat but not very politically-minded. She did, however, take an interest in the personalities and activities of all the First Ladies starting from when she was a girl and Eleanor Roosevelt was FLOTUS.
The lens through which she viewed and judged First Ladies was NOT political, nor partisan. > Her favorite was Pat Nixon, whom she admired for being a loyal wife, good mother, well-spoken and classy.
>Her least favorite was Jacqueline Kennedy, despite (or perhaps because) fact that she was enthusiastic Irish Catholic Democratic JFK supporter; in addition to wee touch of jealousy think she thought Jackie was too much of an elitist for her taste.
That was then. BUT even today, the FLOTUS still matters. The personalities, activities, problems and achievements of the First Ladies have been the stuff of our history and politics since Martha Washington, and always will.
BTW my own personal favorite First Lady is Dolley Madison. The extrovert Philadelphia widow & bombshell who turned White House entertaining into a major political asset for her way-more introverted hubby James Madison. His forte was writing the Constitution and creating the foundation for government; hers was lubricating the workings of that government with rum punch and a ready smile.
Dolley also, as every American schoolchild used to know, before the British were able to burn the White House during the War of 1812 (aka Mr Madison's War) she ordered the Gilbert Stuart painting of George Washington taken down and removed to safety. By the White House slaves. Nevertheless, she did it, and we'll never forget it.
Certainly impact of Mrs. Madison on her times AND subsequent generations was NOT overblown. Same can be said for Mary Toddy Lincoln and Eleanor Roosevelt. Similar case can be made for Jackie Kennedy and Nancy Reagan, for Hillary Clinton and Michelle Obama. And others.
In one sense, you are right - it IS overblown! But that's just how it is, or a least has been.
Melania has been the most beautiful and elegant First Lady since Jackie Kennedy though, no doubt about that
What has her views on the Christmas decorations got to do with it? Visually she has been the most beautiful First Lady since Jackie Kennedy, no question
Wasn't someone on earlier saying these pics were probably not even current and possibly staged (by the EU and ScotGov funded ‘trade association' no doubt)?
I do wish people would do a little bit of research before they repeat bollocks like this.
Today there were 418 boxes from 3 vessels landed. (Not the 220 claimed in the tweet)
But guess what.
Yesterday there were 4333 boxes landed from 19 vessels. Last Monday there were 6370 boxes landed from 20 vessels
Yes I am sure Brexit is having an effect but this sort of cherry picking of numbers to try and con people - and the fact so many on here are stupid enough to fall for it - just shows how desperate some people are for Brexit to fail.
You can look at all the numbers on the Peterhead port authority site. I reckon looking at the numbers on there and comparing to last year that landings are down by about 40%. This is bad. But the idea it has completely collapsed is just garbage.
I've read that Melania Trump hasn't followed the tradition of previous First ladies by offering Jill Biden tea and a tour of the White House.
That just sounds mean-spirited and so typical of the Trump brand.
I wouldn't accept without a FFP3 mask and airtight goggles given how covid-happy the Trumps are - and that rather obviates the tea bit.
No-one voted for Melania Trump and no-one voted for Jill Biden. The whole First Lady thing is overblown.
Not really, certainly NOT in American history. Because the President is NOT just head of government, but also head of state. Thus from 1789 through 2021, the wife of the President has the same (or very similar) social and cultural status as Prince Philip.
When I say social do NOT mean upper-crust society of the hoity-toity kind, even in half-baked colonial fashion. Instead, the expectations of the mass of American people, most especially the majority of American woman.
My own mother, a child of the Great Depression who did not outlive the Reagan administration, was definitely a Democrat but not very politically-minded. She did, however, take an interest in the personalities and activities of all the First Ladies starting from when she was a girl and Eleanor Roosevelt was FLOTUS.
The lens through which she viewed and judged First Ladies was NOT political, nor partisan. > Her favorite was Pat Nixon, whom she admired for being a loyal wife, good mother, well-spoken and classy.
>Her least favorite was Jacqueline Kennedy, despite (or perhaps because) fact that she was enthusiastic Irish Catholic Democratic JFK supporter; in addition to wee touch of jealousy think she thought Jackie was too much of an elitist for her taste.
That was then. BUT even today, the FLOTUS still matters. The personalities, activities, problems and achievements of the First Ladies have been the stuff of our history and politics since Martha Washington, and always will.
BTW my own personal favorite First Lady is Dolley Madison. The extrovert Philadelphia widow & bombshell who turned White House entertaining into a major political asset for her way-more introverted hubby James Madison. His forte was writing the Constitution and creating the foundation for government; hers was lubricating the workings of that government with rum punch and a ready smile.
Dolley also, as every American schoolchild used to know, before the British were able to burn the White House during the War of 1812 (aka Mr Madison's War) she ordered the Gilbert Stuart painting of George Washington taken down and removed to safety. By the White House slaves. Nevertheless, she did it, and we'll never forget it.
Certainly impact of Mrs. Madison on her times AND subsequent generations was NOT overblown. Same can be said for Mary Toddy Lincoln and Eleanor Roosevelt. Similar case can be made for Jackie Kennedy and Nancy Reagan, for Hillary Clinton and Michelle Obama. And others.
In one sense, you are right - it IS overblown! But that's just how it is, or a least has been.
Melania has been the most beautiful and elegant First Lady since Jackie Kennedy though, no doubt about that
What has that got to do with anything? Visually she is the most beautiful First Lady since Jackie Kennedy, no question
HYUFD: She is beautiful and elegant Benpointer: She's not elegant HYUFD: What's that got to do with anything? She is beautiful
You literally stated she was elegant. Someone else claimed she is not elegant. How can you claim elegance has nothing to do with this when you were the one who brought it up?
Elegance is also largely to do with appearance and I included 'and' alongside beautiful so beauty as well as elegance was the requirement
I've read that Melania Trump hasn't followed the tradition of previous First ladies by offering Jill Biden tea and a tour of the White House.
That just sounds mean-spirited and so typical of the Trump brand.
I wouldn't accept without a FFP3 mask and airtight goggles given how covid-happy the Trumps are - and that rather obviates the tea bit.
No-one voted for Melania Trump and no-one voted for Jill Biden. The whole First Lady thing is overblown.
Not really, certainly NOT in American history. Because the President is NOT just head of government, but also head of state. Thus from 1789 through 2021, the wife of the President has the same (or very similar) social and cultural status as Prince Philip.
When I say social do NOT mean upper-crust society of the hoity-toity kind, even in half-baked colonial fashion. Instead, the expectations of the mass of American people, most especially the majority of American woman.
My own mother, a child of the Great Depression who did not outlive the Reagan administration, was definitely a Democrat but not very politically-minded. She did, however, take an interest in the personalities and activities of all the First Ladies starting from when she was a girl and Eleanor Roosevelt was FLOTUS.
The lens through which she viewed and judged First Ladies was NOT political, nor partisan. > Her favorite was Pat Nixon, whom she admired for being a loyal wife, good mother, well-spoken and classy.
>Her least favorite was Jacqueline Kennedy, despite (or perhaps because) fact that she was enthusiastic Irish Catholic Democratic JFK supporter; in addition to wee touch of jealousy think she thought Jackie was too much of an elitist for her taste.
That was then. BUT even today, the FLOTUS still matters. The personalities, activities, problems and achievements of the First Ladies have been the stuff of our history and politics since Martha Washington, and always will.
BTW my own personal favorite First Lady is Dolley Madison. The extrovert Philadelphia widow & bombshell who turned White House entertaining into a major political asset for her way-more introverted hubby James Madison. His forte was writing the Constitution and creating the foundation for government; hers was lubricating the workings of that government with rum punch and a ready smile.
Dolley also, as every American schoolchild used to know, before the British were able to burn the White House during the War of 1812 (aka Mr Madison's War) she ordered the Gilbert Stuart painting of George Washington taken down and removed to safety. By the White House slaves. Nevertheless, she did it, and we'll never forget it.
Certainly impact of Mrs. Madison on her times AND subsequent generations was NOT overblown. Same can be said for Mary Toddy Lincoln and Eleanor Roosevelt. Similar case can be made for Jackie Kennedy and Nancy Reagan, for Hillary Clinton and Michelle Obama. And others.
In one sense, you are right - it IS overblown! But that's just how it is, or a least has been.
Melania has been the most beautiful and elegant First Lady since Jackie Kennedy though, no doubt about that
Wasn't someone on earlier saying these pics were probably not even current and possibly staged (by the EU and ScotGov funded ‘trade association' no doubt)?
Its the apocalypsofuck. These industries are going to collapse. Not because of a referendum asking if we should leave the EU. Because of political decisions to destroy British trade to appease morons.
Amazing that they managed 20x just the day before.
A magnificent 40% instant drop vs normal, with some days an absolute ghost town! Thats what every healthy business looks like. Obviously.
Thankfully someone posted some actual stats to demonstrate how variable it is. Of course you can make a story out of it if you pick the absolute slowest day.
Yup, they have the numbers and know it now. I think they will be pushing very hard for our accession into the CPTPP so the UK has a more offensive strategy rather than just playing defence all the time. One of the big challenges ahead for Boris and Joe is building a coalition to take on China, our accession to the CPTPP should be followed by the US joining it as a ready made way to bolster US interests in APAC and win back a lot of Asian countries that are wavering on Taiwan etc...
This is another of these areas where Trump was actively damaging to both US and Western interests.
China respects power. And (CP)TPP was designed to create an Asian power bloc to counterbalance China. It was to be a free trade area that set standards for intellectual property protection that people would want to be in, rather than choosing the embrace of China.
(CP)TPP with the US, and with the UK, would have been a fearsome thing.
Unfortunately, the US pulling out of it has done nothing to make their trade deficit better (2020 will be the worst current account deficit since George W Bush was President) while failing (so far) to pull countries out of China's orbit.
If we were to join, and the US were to join, it would hopefully act as a counterweight to China.
Wasn't someone on earlier saying these pics were probably not even current and possibly staged (by the EU and ScotGov funded ‘trade association' no doubt)?
Its the apocalypsofuck. These industries are going to collapse. Not because of a referendum asking if we should leave the EU. Because of political decisions to destroy British trade to appease morons.
So you support posting false claims to support your case. Says a lot about your honesty and integrity.
I'll take your comments on my integrity with the level of respect they deserve.
40% down on average. With days where there's almost nothing. Is not an industry that is sustainable. Never mind one that was supposed to have been resurrected by Brexit.
Wasn't someone on earlier saying these pics were probably not even current and possibly staged (by the EU and ScotGov funded ‘trade association' no doubt)?
Its the apocalypsofuck. These industries are going to collapse. Not because of a referendum asking if we should leave the EU. Because of political decisions to destroy British trade to appease morons.
Amazing that they managed 20x just the day before.
A magnificent 40% instant drop vs normal, with some days an absolute ghost town! Thats what every healthy business looks like. Obviously.
Thankfully someone posted some actual stats to demonstrate how variable it is. Of course you can make a story out of it if you pick the absolute slowest day.
In case anyone is suggesting the tweet was a hack reporting job, it was fed to the Twitter OP by the guy who runs that facility.
So their Boss thinks its a disaster. You and others on here think its a success. I wonder who knows more about it...
I've read that Melania Trump hasn't followed the tradition of previous First ladies by offering Jill Biden tea and a tour of the White House.
That just sounds mean-spirited and so typical of the Trump brand.
I wouldn't accept without a FFP3 mask and airtight goggles given how covid-happy the Trumps are - and that rather obviates the tea bit.
No-one voted for Melania Trump and no-one voted for Jill Biden. The whole First Lady thing is overblown.
Not really, certainly NOT in American history. Because the President is NOT just head of government, but also head of state. Thus from 1789 through 2021, the wife of the President has the same (or very similar) social and cultural status as Prince Philip.
When I say social do NOT mean upper-crust society of the hoity-toity kind, even in half-baked colonial fashion. Instead, the expectations of the mass of American people, most especially the majority of American woman.
My own mother, a child of the Great Depression who did not outlive the Reagan administration, was definitely a Democrat but not very politically-minded. She did, however, take an interest in the personalities and activities of all the First Ladies starting from when she was a girl and Eleanor Roosevelt was FLOTUS.
The lens through which she viewed and judged First Ladies was NOT political, nor partisan. > Her favorite was Pat Nixon, whom she admired for being a loyal wife, good mother, well-spoken and classy.
>Her least favorite was Jacqueline Kennedy, despite (or perhaps because) fact that she was enthusiastic Irish Catholic Democratic JFK supporter; in addition to wee touch of jealousy think she thought Jackie was too much of an elitist for her taste.
That was then. BUT even today, the FLOTUS still matters. The personalities, activities, problems and achievements of the First Ladies have been the stuff of our history and politics since Martha Washington, and always will.
BTW my own personal favorite First Lady is Dolley Madison. The extrovert Philadelphia widow & bombshell who turned White House entertaining into a major political asset for her way-more introverted hubby James Madison. His forte was writing the Constitution and creating the foundation for government; hers was lubricating the workings of that government with rum punch and a ready smile.
Dolley also, as every American schoolchild used to know, before the British were able to burn the White House during the War of 1812 (aka Mr Madison's War) she ordered the Gilbert Stuart painting of George Washington taken down and removed to safety. By the White House slaves. Nevertheless, she did it, and we'll never forget it.
Certainly impact of Mrs. Madison on her times AND subsequent generations was NOT overblown. Same can be said for Mary Toddy Lincoln and Eleanor Roosevelt. Similar case can be made for Jackie Kennedy and Nancy Reagan, for Hillary Clinton and Michelle Obama. And others.
In one sense, you are right - it IS overblown! But that's just how it is, or a least has been.
Melania has been the most beautiful and elegant First Lady since Jackie Kennedy though, no doubt about that
Elegant? I was all on board with you for the invasion of Scotland, HYUFD, but this time you've gone too far!
I've read that Melania Trump hasn't followed the tradition of previous First ladies by offering Jill Biden tea and a tour of the White House.
That just sounds mean-spirited and so typical of the Trump brand.
I wouldn't accept without a FFP3 mask and airtight goggles given how covid-happy the Trumps are - and that rather obviates the tea bit.
No-one voted for Melania Trump and no-one voted for Jill Biden. The whole First Lady thing is overblown.
Not really, certainly NOT in American history. Because the President is NOT just head of government, but also head of state. Thus from 1789 through 2021, the wife of the President has the same (or very similar) social and cultural status as Prince Philip.
When I say social do NOT mean upper-crust society of the hoity-toity kind, even in half-baked colonial fashion. Instead, the expectations of the mass of American people, most especially the majority of American woman.
My own mother, a child of the Great Depression who did not outlive the Reagan administration, was definitely a Democrat but not very politically-minded. She did, however, take an interest in the personalities and activities of all the First Ladies starting from when she was a girl and Eleanor Roosevelt was FLOTUS.
The lens through which she viewed and judged First Ladies was NOT political, nor partisan. > Her favorite was Pat Nixon, whom she admired for being a loyal wife, good mother, well-spoken and classy.
>Her least favorite was Jacqueline Kennedy, despite (or perhaps because) fact that she was enthusiastic Irish Catholic Democratic JFK supporter; in addition to wee touch of jealousy think she thought Jackie was too much of an elitist for her taste.
That was then. BUT even today, the FLOTUS still matters. The personalities, activities, problems and achievements of the First Ladies have been the stuff of our history and politics since Martha Washington, and always will.
BTW my own personal favorite First Lady is Dolley Madison. The extrovert Philadelphia widow & bombshell who turned White House entertaining into a major political asset for her way-more introverted hubby James Madison. His forte was writing the Constitution and creating the foundation for government; hers was lubricating the workings of that government with rum punch and a ready smile.
Dolley also, as every American schoolchild used to know, before the British were able to burn the White House during the War of 1812 (aka Mr Madison's War) she ordered the Gilbert Stuart painting of George Washington taken down and removed to safety. By the White House slaves. Nevertheless, she did it, and we'll never forget it.
Certainly impact of Mrs. Madison on her times AND subsequent generations was NOT overblown. Same can be said for Mary Toddy Lincoln and Eleanor Roosevelt. Similar case can be made for Jackie Kennedy and Nancy Reagan, for Hillary Clinton and Michelle Obama. And others.
In one sense, you are right - it IS overblown! But that's just how it is, or a least has been.
Melania has been the most beautiful and elegant First Lady since Jackie Kennedy though, no doubt about that
What has her views on the Christmas decorations got to do with it? Visually she has been the most beautiful First Lady since Jackie Kennedy, no question
I've read that Melania Trump hasn't followed the tradition of previous First ladies by offering Jill Biden tea and a tour of the White House.
That just sounds mean-spirited and so typical of the Trump brand.
I wouldn't accept without a FFP3 mask and airtight goggles given how covid-happy the Trumps are - and that rather obviates the tea bit.
No-one voted for Melania Trump and no-one voted for Jill Biden. The whole First Lady thing is overblown.
Not really, certainly NOT in American history. Because the President is NOT just head of government, but also head of state. Thus from 1789 through 2021, the wife of the President has the same (or very similar) social and cultural status as Prince Philip.
When I say social do NOT mean upper-crust society of the hoity-toity kind, even in half-baked colonial fashion. Instead, the expectations of the mass of American people, most especially the majority of American woman.
My own mother, a child of the Great Depression who did not outlive the Reagan administration, was definitely a Democrat but not very politically-minded. She did, however, take an interest in the personalities and activities of all the First Ladies starting from when she was a girl and Eleanor Roosevelt was FLOTUS.
The lens through which she viewed and judged First Ladies was NOT political, nor partisan. > Her favorite was Pat Nixon, whom she admired for being a loyal wife, good mother, well-spoken and classy.
>Her least favorite was Jacqueline Kennedy, despite (or perhaps because) fact that she was enthusiastic Irish Catholic Democratic JFK supporter; in addition to wee touch of jealousy think she thought Jackie was too much of an elitist for her taste.
That was then. BUT even today, the FLOTUS still matters. The personalities, activities, problems and achievements of the First Ladies have been the stuff of our history and politics since Martha Washington, and always will.
BTW my own personal favorite First Lady is Dolley Madison. The extrovert Philadelphia widow & bombshell who turned White House entertaining into a major political asset for her way-more introverted hubby James Madison. His forte was writing the Constitution and creating the foundation for government; hers was lubricating the workings of that government with rum punch and a ready smile.
Dolley also, as every American schoolchild used to know, before the British were able to burn the White House during the War of 1812 (aka Mr Madison's War) she ordered the Gilbert Stuart painting of George Washington taken down and removed to safety. By the White House slaves. Nevertheless, she did it, and we'll never forget it.
Certainly impact of Mrs. Madison on her times AND subsequent generations was NOT overblown. Same can be said for Mary Toddy Lincoln and Eleanor Roosevelt. Similar case can be made for Jackie Kennedy and Nancy Reagan, for Hillary Clinton and Michelle Obama. And others.
In one sense, you are right - it IS overblown! But that's just how it is, or a least has been.
Melania has been the most beautiful and elegant First Lady since Jackie Kennedy though, no doubt about that
What has her views on the Christmas decorations got to do with it? Visually she has been the most beautiful First Lady since Jackie Kennedy, no question
You said 'most beautiful and elegant'. No way was Melania behaving elegantly in that tape.
I've read that Melania Trump hasn't followed the tradition of previous First ladies by offering Jill Biden tea and a tour of the White House.
That just sounds mean-spirited and so typical of the Trump brand.
I wouldn't accept without a FFP3 mask and airtight goggles given how covid-happy the Trumps are - and that rather obviates the tea bit.
No-one voted for Melania Trump and no-one voted for Jill Biden. The whole First Lady thing is overblown.
Not really, certainly NOT in American history. Because the President is NOT just head of government, but also head of state. Thus from 1789 through 2021, the wife of the President has the same (or very similar) social and cultural status as Prince Philip.
When I say social do NOT mean upper-crust society of the hoity-toity kind, even in half-baked colonial fashion. Instead, the expectations of the mass of American people, most especially the majority of American woman.
My own mother, a child of the Great Depression who did not outlive the Reagan administration, was definitely a Democrat but not very politically-minded. She did, however, take an interest in the personalities and activities of all the First Ladies starting from when she was a girl and Eleanor Roosevelt was FLOTUS.
The lens through which she viewed and judged First Ladies was NOT political, nor partisan. > Her favorite was Pat Nixon, whom she admired for being a loyal wife, good mother, well-spoken and classy.
>Her least favorite was Jacqueline Kennedy, despite (or perhaps because) fact that she was enthusiastic Irish Catholic Democratic JFK supporter; in addition to wee touch of jealousy think she thought Jackie was too much of an elitist for her taste.
That was then. BUT even today, the FLOTUS still matters. The personalities, activities, problems and achievements of the First Ladies have been the stuff of our history and politics since Martha Washington, and always will.
BTW my own personal favorite First Lady is Dolley Madison. The extrovert Philadelphia widow & bombshell who turned White House entertaining into a major political asset for her way-more introverted hubby James Madison. His forte was writing the Constitution and creating the foundation for government; hers was lubricating the workings of that government with rum punch and a ready smile.
Dolley also, as every American schoolchild used to know, before the British were able to burn the White House during the War of 1812 (aka Mr Madison's War) she ordered the Gilbert Stuart painting of George Washington taken down and removed to safety. By the White House slaves. Nevertheless, she did it, and we'll never forget it.
Certainly impact of Mrs. Madison on her times AND subsequent generations was NOT overblown. Same can be said for Mary Toddy Lincoln and Eleanor Roosevelt. Similar case can be made for Jackie Kennedy and Nancy Reagan, for Hillary Clinton and Michelle Obama. And others.
In one sense, you are right - it IS overblown! But that's just how it is, or a least has been.
Melania has been the most beautiful and elegant First Lady since Jackie Kennedy though, no doubt about that
Jackie wowed the American people with her televised tour of the White House.
AND knocked the socks off the crown head of Europe, in competition with Eva Peron.
Melania? Not so much.
Our current Queen was a bit of a looker at about the same time. Sadly, unless young George takes after his mother more than his father, we are not going to be graced with much in the way of looks on the throne for the foreseeable.
I've read that Melania Trump hasn't followed the tradition of previous First ladies by offering Jill Biden tea and a tour of the White House.
That just sounds mean-spirited and so typical of the Trump brand.
I wouldn't accept without a FFP3 mask and airtight goggles given how covid-happy the Trumps are - and that rather obviates the tea bit.
No-one voted for Melania Trump and no-one voted for Jill Biden. The whole First Lady thing is overblown.
Not really, certainly NOT in American history. Because the President is NOT just head of government, but also head of state. Thus from 1789 through 2021, the wife of the President has the same (or very similar) social and cultural status as Prince Philip.
When I say social do NOT mean upper-crust society of the hoity-toity kind, even in half-baked colonial fashion. Instead, the expectations of the mass of American people, most especially the majority of American woman.
My own mother, a child of the Great Depression who did not outlive the Reagan administration, was definitely a Democrat but not very politically-minded. She did, however, take an interest in the personalities and activities of all the First Ladies starting from when she was a girl and Eleanor Roosevelt was FLOTUS.
The lens through which she viewed and judged First Ladies was NOT political, nor partisan. > Her favorite was Pat Nixon, whom she admired for being a loyal wife, good mother, well-spoken and classy.
>Her least favorite was Jacqueline Kennedy, despite (or perhaps because) fact that she was enthusiastic Irish Catholic Democratic JFK supporter; in addition to wee touch of jealousy think she thought Jackie was too much of an elitist for her taste.
That was then. BUT even today, the FLOTUS still matters. The personalities, activities, problems and achievements of the First Ladies have been the stuff of our history and politics since Martha Washington, and always will.
BTW my own personal favorite First Lady is Dolley Madison. The extrovert Philadelphia widow & bombshell who turned White House entertaining into a major political asset for her way-more introverted hubby James Madison. His forte was writing the Constitution and creating the foundation for government; hers was lubricating the workings of that government with rum punch and a ready smile.
Dolley also, as every American schoolchild used to know, before the British were able to burn the White House during the War of 1812 (aka Mr Madison's War) she ordered the Gilbert Stuart painting of George Washington taken down and removed to safety. By the White House slaves. Nevertheless, she did it, and we'll never forget it.
Certainly impact of Mrs. Madison on her times AND subsequent generations was NOT overblown. Same can be said for Mary Toddy Lincoln and Eleanor Roosevelt. Similar case can be made for Jackie Kennedy and Nancy Reagan, for Hillary Clinton and Michelle Obama. And others.
In one sense, you are right - it IS overblown! But that's just how it is, or a least has been.
Melania has been the most beautiful and elegant First Lady since Jackie Kennedy though, no doubt about that
What has that got to do with anything? Visually she is the most beautiful First Lady since Jackie Kennedy, no question
HYUFD: She is beautiful and elegant Benpointer: She's not elegant HYUFD: What's that got to do with anything? She is beautiful
You literally stated she was elegant. Someone else claimed she is not elegant. How can you claim elegance has nothing to do with this when you were the one who brought it up?
Elegance is also largely to do with appearance and I included 'and' alongside beautiful so beauty as well as elegance was the requirement
Which rebuts your quesiton about 'what's that got to do with anything?' Whilst you might not agree with Benpointer's assessment of Melania's elegance, he disputed the elegance, therefore by your own terms it is relevant because in his view she does not have both beauty and elegance.
Again, you may disagree, but the point was clearly something to do with your own defined approach of having both. There was just a different view of what constitutes elegance. Behaviour can also be elegant.
Wasn't someone on earlier saying these pics were probably not even current and possibly staged (by the EU and ScotGov funded ‘trade association' no doubt)?
Its the apocalypsofuck. These industries are going to collapse. Not because of a referendum asking if we should leave the EU. Because of political decisions to destroy British trade to appease morons.
Amazing that they managed 20x just the day before.
A magnificent 40% instant drop vs normal, with some days an absolute ghost town! Thats what every healthy business looks like. Obviously.
Thankfully someone posted some actual stats to demonstrate how variable it is. Of course you can make a story out of it if you pick the absolute slowest day.
In case anyone is suggesting the tweet was a hack reporting job, it was fed to the Twitter OP by the guy who runs that facility.
So their Boss thinks its a disaster. You and others on here think its a success. I wonder who knows more about it...
Who says I think it's a success? I'm just pointing out that it is hardly representative when you consider the day before they had 20x as many boxes in there.
Wasn't someone on earlier saying these pics were probably not even current and possibly staged (by the EU and ScotGov funded ‘trade association' no doubt)?
I do wish people would do a little bit of research before they repeat bollocks like this.
Today there were 418 boxes from 3 vessels landed. (Not the 220 claimed in the tweet)
But guess what.
Yesterday there were 4333 boxes landed from 19 vessels. Last Monday there were 6370 boxes landed from 20 vessels
Yes I am sure Brexit is having an effect but this sort of cherry picking of numbers to try and con people - and the fact so many on here are stupid enough to fall for it - just shows how desperate some people are for Brexit to fail.
You can look at all the numbers on the Peterhead port authority site. I reckon looking at the numbers on there and comparing to last year that landings are down by about 40%. This is bad. But the idea it has completely collapsed is just garbage.
Yes, the risk with hugely overstating your case is that no-one listens to it at all.
Quite so. A bit like those who claim that 'wokeism' is the biggest threat to western civilisation; people just stop listening.
I didn't say that. You can read what I said about the threat to Western civilisation here:
Wasn't someone on earlier saying these pics were probably not even current and possibly staged (by the EU and ScotGov funded ‘trade association' no doubt)?
I do wish people would do a little bit of research before they repeat bollocks like this.
Today there were 418 boxes from 3 vessels landed. (Not the 220 claimed in the tweet)
But guess what.
Yesterday there were 4333 boxes landed from 19 vessels. Last Monday there were 6370 boxes landed from 20 vessels
Yes I am sure Brexit is having an effect but this sort of cherry picking of numbers to try and con people - and the fact so many on here are stupid enough to fall for it - just shows how desperate some people are for Brexit to fail.
You can look at all the numbers on the Peterhead port authority site. I reckon looking at the numbers on there and comparing to last year that landings are down by about 40%. This is bad. But the idea it has completely collapsed is just garbage.
It does. One reason of course is it is massively weather dependent. It also depends on where the boats are fishing and how long skippers stay out. It certainly isn't something you can judge based on a couple of days landings.
As I say, looking at the data so far this year I would say the numbers of boxes are down around 40% compared to last year. But even that might not be representative overall. It could be more or less than that and there is no way to judge it except to say the problems at Dover etc must be having some effect.
I've read that Melania Trump hasn't followed the tradition of previous First ladies by offering Jill Biden tea and a tour of the White House.
That just sounds mean-spirited and so typical of the Trump brand.
I wouldn't accept without a FFP3 mask and airtight goggles given how covid-happy the Trumps are - and that rather obviates the tea bit.
No-one voted for Melania Trump and no-one voted for Jill Biden. The whole First Lady thing is overblown.
Not really, certainly NOT in American history. Because the President is NOT just head of government, but also head of state. Thus from 1789 through 2021, the wife of the President has the same (or very similar) social and cultural status as Prince Philip.
When I say social do NOT mean upper-crust society of the hoity-toity kind, even in half-baked colonial fashion. Instead, the expectations of the mass of American people, most especially the majority of American woman.
My own mother, a child of the Great Depression who did not outlive the Reagan administration, was definitely a Democrat but not very politically-minded. She did, however, take an interest in the personalities and activities of all the First Ladies starting from when she was a girl and Eleanor Roosevelt was FLOTUS.
The lens through which she viewed and judged First Ladies was NOT political, nor partisan. > Her favorite was Pat Nixon, whom she admired for being a loyal wife, good mother, well-spoken and classy.
>Her least favorite was Jacqueline Kennedy, despite (or perhaps because) fact that she was enthusiastic Irish Catholic Democratic JFK supporter; in addition to wee touch of jealousy think she thought Jackie was too much of an elitist for her taste.
That was then. BUT even today, the FLOTUS still matters. The personalities, activities, problems and achievements of the First Ladies have been the stuff of our history and politics since Martha Washington, and always will.
BTW my own personal favorite First Lady is Dolley Madison. The extrovert Philadelphia widow & bombshell who turned White House entertaining into a major political asset for her way-more introverted hubby James Madison. His forte was writing the Constitution and creating the foundation for government; hers was lubricating the workings of that government with rum punch and a ready smile.
Dolley also, as every American schoolchild used to know, before the British were able to burn the White House during the War of 1812 (aka Mr Madison's War) she ordered the Gilbert Stuart painting of George Washington taken down and removed to safety. By the White House slaves. Nevertheless, she did it, and we'll never forget it.
Certainly impact of Mrs. Madison on her times AND subsequent generations was NOT overblown. Same can be said for Mary Toddy Lincoln and Eleanor Roosevelt. Similar case can be made for Jackie Kennedy and Nancy Reagan, for Hillary Clinton and Michelle Obama. And others.
In one sense, you are right - it IS overblown! But that's just how it is, or a least has been.
Melania has been the most beautiful and elegant First Lady since Jackie Kennedy though, no doubt about that
What has her views on the Christmas decorations got to do with it? Visually she has been the most beautiful First Lady since Jackie Kennedy, no question
I've read that Melania Trump hasn't followed the tradition of previous First ladies by offering Jill Biden tea and a tour of the White House.
That just sounds mean-spirited and so typical of the Trump brand.
I wouldn't accept without a FFP3 mask and airtight goggles given how covid-happy the Trumps are - and that rather obviates the tea bit.
No-one voted for Melania Trump and no-one voted for Jill Biden. The whole First Lady thing is overblown.
Not really, certainly NOT in American history. Because the President is NOT just head of government, but also head of state. Thus from 1789 through 2021, the wife of the President has the same (or very similar) social and cultural status as Prince Philip.
When I say social do NOT mean upper-crust society of the hoity-toity kind, even in half-baked colonial fashion. Instead, the expectations of the mass of American people, most especially the majority of American woman.
My own mother, a child of the Great Depression who did not outlive the Reagan administration, was definitely a Democrat but not very politically-minded. She did, however, take an interest in the personalities and activities of all the First Ladies starting from when she was a girl and Eleanor Roosevelt was FLOTUS.
The lens through which she viewed and judged First Ladies was NOT political, nor partisan. > Her favorite was Pat Nixon, whom she admired for being a loyal wife, good mother, well-spoken and classy.
>Her least favorite was Jacqueline Kennedy, despite (or perhaps because) fact that she was enthusiastic Irish Catholic Democratic JFK supporter; in addition to wee touch of jealousy think she thought Jackie was too much of an elitist for her taste.
That was then. BUT even today, the FLOTUS still matters. The personalities, activities, problems and achievements of the First Ladies have been the stuff of our history and politics since Martha Washington, and always will.
BTW my own personal favorite First Lady is Dolley Madison. The extrovert Philadelphia widow & bombshell who turned White House entertaining into a major political asset for her way-more introverted hubby James Madison. His forte was writing the Constitution and creating the foundation for government; hers was lubricating the workings of that government with rum punch and a ready smile.
Dolley also, as every American schoolchild used to know, before the British were able to burn the White House during the War of 1812 (aka Mr Madison's War) she ordered the Gilbert Stuart painting of George Washington taken down and removed to safety. By the White House slaves. Nevertheless, she did it, and we'll never forget it.
Certainly impact of Mrs. Madison on her times AND subsequent generations was NOT overblown. Same can be said for Mary Toddy Lincoln and Eleanor Roosevelt. Similar case can be made for Jackie Kennedy and Nancy Reagan, for Hillary Clinton and Michelle Obama. And others.
In one sense, you are right - it IS overblown! But that's just how it is, or a least has been.
Melania has been the most beautiful and elegant First Lady since Jackie Kennedy though, no doubt about that
What has her views on the Christmas decorations got to do with it? Visually she has been the most beautiful First Lady since Jackie Kennedy, no question
You said 'most beautiful and elegant'. No way was Melania behaving elegantly in that tape.
Elegance 'the quality of being graceful and attractive in appearance or behaviour'.
So as long as you are attractive in appearance you can still be elegant regardless of behaviour
That extract from McConnell shows the danger of this somewhat pointless impeachment process as I set out yesterday. The Republicans walk away from Trump, nothing to do with us guv. After 4 years of shit they just walk away.
Wasn't someone on earlier saying these pics were probably not even current and possibly staged (by the EU and ScotGov funded ‘trade association' no doubt)?
I do wish people would do a little bit of research before they repeat bollocks like this.
Today there were 418 boxes from 3 vessels landed. (Not the 220 claimed in the tweet)
But guess what.
Yesterday there were 4333 boxes landed from 19 vessels. Last Monday there were 6370 boxes landed from 20 vessels
Yes I am sure Brexit is having an effect but this sort of cherry picking of numbers to try and con people - and the fact so many on here are stupid enough to fall for it - just shows how desperate some people are for Brexit to fail.
You can look at all the numbers on the Peterhead port authority site. I reckon looking at the numbers on there and comparing to last year that landings are down by about 40%. This is bad. But the idea it has completely collapsed is just garbage.
Wasn't someone on earlier saying these pics were probably not even current and possibly staged (by the EU and ScotGov funded ‘trade association' no doubt)?
Its the apocalypsofuck. These industries are going to collapse. Not because of a referendum asking if we should leave the EU. Because of political decisions to destroy British trade to appease morons.
Amazing that they managed 20x just the day before.
A magnificent 40% instant drop vs normal, with some days an absolute ghost town! Thats what every healthy business looks like. Obviously.
Thankfully someone posted some actual stats to demonstrate how variable it is. Of course you can make a story out of it if you pick the absolute slowest day.
In case anyone is suggesting the tweet was a hack reporting job, it was fed to the Twitter OP by the guy who runs that facility.
So their Boss thinks its a disaster. You and others on here think its a success. I wonder who knows more about it...
And yet he didn't think to tweet the previous day when landings were normal?
I've read that Melania Trump hasn't followed the tradition of previous First ladies by offering Jill Biden tea and a tour of the White House.
That just sounds mean-spirited and so typical of the Trump brand.
I wouldn't accept without a FFP3 mask and airtight goggles given how covid-happy the Trumps are - and that rather obviates the tea bit.
No-one voted for Melania Trump and no-one voted for Jill Biden. The whole First Lady thing is overblown.
Not really, certainly NOT in American history. Because the President is NOT just head of government, but also head of state. Thus from 1789 through 2021, the wife of the President has the same (or very similar) social and cultural status as Prince Philip.
When I say social do NOT mean upper-crust society of the hoity-toity kind, even in half-baked colonial fashion. Instead, the expectations of the mass of American people, most especially the majority of American woman.
My own mother, a child of the Great Depression who did not outlive the Reagan administration, was definitely a Democrat but not very politically-minded. She did, however, take an interest in the personalities and activities of all the First Ladies starting from when she was a girl and Eleanor Roosevelt was FLOTUS.
The lens through which she viewed and judged First Ladies was NOT political, nor partisan. > Her favorite was Pat Nixon, whom she admired for being a loyal wife, good mother, well-spoken and classy.
>Her least favorite was Jacqueline Kennedy, despite (or perhaps because) fact that she was enthusiastic Irish Catholic Democratic JFK supporter; in addition to wee touch of jealousy think she thought Jackie was too much of an elitist for her taste.
That was then. BUT even today, the FLOTUS still matters. The personalities, activities, problems and achievements of the First Ladies have been the stuff of our history and politics since Martha Washington, and always will.
BTW my own personal favorite First Lady is Dolley Madison. The extrovert Philadelphia widow & bombshell who turned White House entertaining into a major political asset for her way-more introverted hubby James Madison. His forte was writing the Constitution and creating the foundation for government; hers was lubricating the workings of that government with rum punch and a ready smile.
Dolley also, as every American schoolchild used to know, before the British were able to burn the White House during the War of 1812 (aka Mr Madison's War) she ordered the Gilbert Stuart painting of George Washington taken down and removed to safety. By the White House slaves. Nevertheless, she did it, and we'll never forget it.
Certainly impact of Mrs. Madison on her times AND subsequent generations was NOT overblown. Same can be said for Mary Toddy Lincoln and Eleanor Roosevelt. Similar case can be made for Jackie Kennedy and Nancy Reagan, for Hillary Clinton and Michelle Obama. And others.
In one sense, you are right - it IS overblown! But that's just how it is, or a least has been.
Melania has been the most beautiful and elegant First Lady since Jackie Kennedy though, no doubt about that
Elegant? I was all on board with you for the invasion of Scotland, HYUFD, but this time you've gone too far!
He has helpfully defined elegance as also being related to her being beautiful (yes, it can be a part of it), therefore he actually meant beautiful and beautiful perhaps.
Wasn't someone on earlier saying these pics were probably not even current and possibly staged (by the EU and ScotGov funded ‘trade association' no doubt)?
Its the apocalypsofuck. These industries are going to collapse. Not because of a referendum asking if we should leave the EU. Because of political decisions to destroy British trade to appease morons.
So you support posting false claims to support your case. Says a lot about your honesty and integrity.
I'll take your comments on my integrity with the level of respect they deserve.
40% down on average. With days where there's almost nothing. Is not an industry that is sustainable. Never mind one that was supposed to have been resurrected by Brexit.
Well you clearly have no integrity if you continue to back that tweet. Either that or you are too thick to understand basic maths.
I've read that Melania Trump hasn't followed the tradition of previous First ladies by offering Jill Biden tea and a tour of the White House.
That just sounds mean-spirited and so typical of the Trump brand.
I wouldn't accept without a FFP3 mask and airtight goggles given how covid-happy the Trumps are - and that rather obviates the tea bit.
No-one voted for Melania Trump and no-one voted for Jill Biden. The whole First Lady thing is overblown.
Not really, certainly NOT in American history. Because the President is NOT just head of government, but also head of state. Thus from 1789 through 2021, the wife of the President has the same (or very similar) social and cultural status as Prince Philip.
When I say social do NOT mean upper-crust society of the hoity-toity kind, even in half-baked colonial fashion. Instead, the expectations of the mass of American people, most especially the majority of American woman.
My own mother, a child of the Great Depression who did not outlive the Reagan administration, was definitely a Democrat but not very politically-minded. She did, however, take an interest in the personalities and activities of all the First Ladies starting from when she was a girl and Eleanor Roosevelt was FLOTUS.
The lens through which she viewed and judged First Ladies was NOT political, nor partisan. > Her favorite was Pat Nixon, whom she admired for being a loyal wife, good mother, well-spoken and classy.
>Her least favorite was Jacqueline Kennedy, despite (or perhaps because) fact that she was enthusiastic Irish Catholic Democratic JFK supporter; in addition to wee touch of jealousy think she thought Jackie was too much of an elitist for her taste.
That was then. BUT even today, the FLOTUS still matters. The personalities, activities, problems and achievements of the First Ladies have been the stuff of our history and politics since Martha Washington, and always will.
BTW my own personal favorite First Lady is Dolley Madison. The extrovert Philadelphia widow & bombshell who turned White House entertaining into a major political asset for her way-more introverted hubby James Madison. His forte was writing the Constitution and creating the foundation for government; hers was lubricating the workings of that government with rum punch and a ready smile.
Dolley also, as every American schoolchild used to know, before the British were able to burn the White House during the War of 1812 (aka Mr Madison's War) she ordered the Gilbert Stuart painting of George Washington taken down and removed to safety. By the White House slaves. Nevertheless, she did it, and we'll never forget it.
Certainly impact of Mrs. Madison on her times AND subsequent generations was NOT overblown. Same can be said for Mary Toddy Lincoln and Eleanor Roosevelt. Similar case can be made for Jackie Kennedy and Nancy Reagan, for Hillary Clinton and Michelle Obama. And others.
In one sense, you are right - it IS overblown! But that's just how it is, or a least has been.
Melania has been the most beautiful and elegant First Lady since Jackie Kennedy though, no doubt about that
What has her views on the Christmas decorations got to do with it? Visually she has been the most beautiful First Lady since Jackie Kennedy, no question
I've read that Melania Trump hasn't followed the tradition of previous First ladies by offering Jill Biden tea and a tour of the White House.
That just sounds mean-spirited and so typical of the Trump brand.
I wouldn't accept without a FFP3 mask and airtight goggles given how covid-happy the Trumps are - and that rather obviates the tea bit.
No-one voted for Melania Trump and no-one voted for Jill Biden. The whole First Lady thing is overblown.
Not really, certainly NOT in American history. Because the President is NOT just head of government, but also head of state. Thus from 1789 through 2021, the wife of the President has the same (or very similar) social and cultural status as Prince Philip.
When I say social do NOT mean upper-crust society of the hoity-toity kind, even in half-baked colonial fashion. Instead, the expectations of the mass of American people, most especially the majority of American woman.
My own mother, a child of the Great Depression who did not outlive the Reagan administration, was definitely a Democrat but not very politically-minded. She did, however, take an interest in the personalities and activities of all the First Ladies starting from when she was a girl and Eleanor Roosevelt was FLOTUS.
The lens through which she viewed and judged First Ladies was NOT political, nor partisan. > Her favorite was Pat Nixon, whom she admired for being a loyal wife, good mother, well-spoken and classy.
>Her least favorite was Jacqueline Kennedy, despite (or perhaps because) fact that she was enthusiastic Irish Catholic Democratic JFK supporter; in addition to wee touch of jealousy think she thought Jackie was too much of an elitist for her taste.
That was then. BUT even today, the FLOTUS still matters. The personalities, activities, problems and achievements of the First Ladies have been the stuff of our history and politics since Martha Washington, and always will.
BTW my own personal favorite First Lady is Dolley Madison. The extrovert Philadelphia widow & bombshell who turned White House entertaining into a major political asset for her way-more introverted hubby James Madison. His forte was writing the Constitution and creating the foundation for government; hers was lubricating the workings of that government with rum punch and a ready smile.
Dolley also, as every American schoolchild used to know, before the British were able to burn the White House during the War of 1812 (aka Mr Madison's War) she ordered the Gilbert Stuart painting of George Washington taken down and removed to safety. By the White House slaves. Nevertheless, she did it, and we'll never forget it.
Certainly impact of Mrs. Madison on her times AND subsequent generations was NOT overblown. Same can be said for Mary Toddy Lincoln and Eleanor Roosevelt. Similar case can be made for Jackie Kennedy and Nancy Reagan, for Hillary Clinton and Michelle Obama. And others.
In one sense, you are right - it IS overblown! But that's just how it is, or a least has been.
Melania has been the most beautiful and elegant First Lady since Jackie Kennedy though, no doubt about that
What has her views on the Christmas decorations got to do with it? Visually she has been the most beautiful First Lady since Jackie Kennedy, no question
You said 'most beautiful and elegant'. No way was Melania behaving elegantly in that tape.
Elegance 'the quality of being graceful and attractive in appearance or behaviour'.
So as long as you are attractive in appearance you can still be elegant regardless of behaviour
Wasn't someone on earlier saying these pics were probably not even current and possibly staged (by the EU and ScotGov funded ‘trade association' no doubt)?
Its the apocalypsofuck. These industries are going to collapse. Not because of a referendum asking if we should leave the EU. Because of political decisions to destroy British trade to appease morons.
So you support posting false claims to support your case. Says a lot about your honesty and integrity.
I'll take your comments on my integrity with the level of respect they deserve.
40% down on average. With days where there's almost nothing. Is not an industry that is sustainable. Never mind one that was supposed to have been resurrected by Brexit.
Well you clearly have no integrity if you continue to back that tweet. Either that or you are too thick to understand basic maths.
Wasn't someone on earlier saying these pics were probably not even current and possibly staged (by the EU and ScotGov funded ‘trade association' no doubt)?
I do wish people would do a little bit of research before they repeat bollocks like this.
Today there were 418 boxes from 3 vessels landed. (Not the 220 claimed in the tweet)
But guess what.
Yesterday there were 4333 boxes landed from 19 vessels. Last Monday there were 6370 boxes landed from 20 vessels
Yes I am sure Brexit is having an effect but this sort of cherry picking of numbers to try and con people - and the fact so many on here are stupid enough to fall for it - just shows how desperate some people are for Brexit to fail.
You can look at all the numbers on the Peterhead port authority site. I reckon looking at the numbers on there and comparing to last year that landings are down by about 40%. This is bad. But the idea it has completely collapsed is just garbage.
Yes, the risk with hugely overstating your case is that no-one listens to it at all.
The road to Wigan Pier claims from the media made out of Coalition government slowing of increases of many aspects of public spending being a great example.
Wasn't someone on earlier saying these pics were probably not even current and possibly staged (by the EU and ScotGov funded ‘trade association' no doubt)?
Its the apocalypsofuck. These industries are going to collapse. Not because of a referendum asking if we should leave the EU. Because of political decisions to destroy British trade to appease morons.
So you support posting false claims to support your case. Says a lot about your honesty and integrity.
I'll take your comments on my integrity with the level of respect they deserve.
40% down on average. With days where there's almost nothing. Is not an industry that is sustainable. Never mind one that was supposed to have been resurrected by Brexit.
To be fair you rage against Brexit everyday and are hardly a neutral observer
I would suggest you need to calm down, and see how this pans out over the next few months
Fishing has always been an erratic industry and I think there may be some very anti Brexit propaganda going on, when in truth I doubt it is really registering with most as they fight covid
I have read the Irish and others are furious about the way their fishing has been compromised and I expect to see matters improve in the coming months
Biden will hopefully be the most boring president since George HW Bush, which is arguably just what the US needs.
HW had a number of features - boring wasn't one of them. Understated, maybe.
This was the guy who built a military coalition that included the Arabs and the Israelis - fighting on the same side.
And used rock music to get Noriega into prison.
And vomited copiously over the Japanese PM.
And pardoning the Iran Contra criminals.
He was the best President of my lifetime, won the Gulf War with an international coalition, ended the Cold War on his watch, cut the deficit, agreed climate targets at the Rio Summmit, took action for the disabled.
Wasn't someone on earlier saying these pics were probably not even current and possibly staged (by the EU and ScotGov funded ‘trade association' no doubt)?
I do wish people would do a little bit of research before they repeat bollocks like this.
Today there were 418 boxes from 3 vessels landed. (Not the 220 claimed in the tweet)
But guess what.
Yesterday there were 4333 boxes landed from 19 vessels. Last Monday there were 6370 boxes landed from 20 vessels
Yes I am sure Brexit is having an effect but this sort of cherry picking of numbers to try and con people - and the fact so many on here are stupid enough to fall for it - just shows how desperate some people are for Brexit to fail.
You can look at all the numbers on the Peterhead port authority site. I reckon looking at the numbers on there and comparing to last year that landings are down by about 40%. This is bad. But the idea it has completely collapsed is just garbage.
The tweet was at midday and since the tweeter put the link to the Peterhead port authority site herself, I'd imagine the figs were correct at the time.
If Brexiteers are happy to accept that landings are down by 40% due to Brexit and the fishing sector just has to suck it up, cool. However those who say it's a good deal that the fishermen just don't understand, that is indeed a leaking bin bag of 2 week old garbage.
I've read that Melania Trump hasn't followed the tradition of previous First ladies by offering Jill Biden tea and a tour of the White House.
That just sounds mean-spirited and so typical of the Trump brand.
I wouldn't accept without a FFP3 mask and airtight goggles given how covid-happy the Trumps are - and that rather obviates the tea bit.
No-one voted for Melania Trump and no-one voted for Jill Biden. The whole First Lady thing is overblown.
Not really, certainly NOT in American history. Because the President is NOT just head of government, but also head of state. Thus from 1789 through 2021, the wife of the President has the same (or very similar) social and cultural status as Prince Philip.
When I say social do NOT mean upper-crust society of the hoity-toity kind, even in half-baked colonial fashion. Instead, the expectations of the mass of American people, most especially the majority of American woman.
My own mother, a child of the Great Depression who did not outlive the Reagan administration, was definitely a Democrat but not very politically-minded. She did, however, take an interest in the personalities and activities of all the First Ladies starting from when she was a girl and Eleanor Roosevelt was FLOTUS.
The lens through which she viewed and judged First Ladies was NOT political, nor partisan. > Her favorite was Pat Nixon, whom she admired for being a loyal wife, good mother, well-spoken and classy.
>Her least favorite was Jacqueline Kennedy, despite (or perhaps because) fact that she was enthusiastic Irish Catholic Democratic JFK supporter; in addition to wee touch of jealousy think she thought Jackie was too much of an elitist for her taste.
That was then. BUT even today, the FLOTUS still matters. The personalities, activities, problems and achievements of the First Ladies have been the stuff of our history and politics since Martha Washington, and always will.
BTW my own personal favorite First Lady is Dolley Madison. The extrovert Philadelphia widow & bombshell who turned White House entertaining into a major political asset for her way-more introverted hubby James Madison. His forte was writing the Constitution and creating the foundation for government; hers was lubricating the workings of that government with rum punch and a ready smile.
Dolley also, as every American schoolchild used to know, before the British were able to burn the White House during the War of 1812 (aka Mr Madison's War) she ordered the Gilbert Stuart painting of George Washington taken down and removed to safety. By the White House slaves. Nevertheless, she did it, and we'll never forget it.
Certainly impact of Mrs. Madison on her times AND subsequent generations was NOT overblown. Same can be said for Mary Toddy Lincoln and Eleanor Roosevelt. Similar case can be made for Jackie Kennedy and Nancy Reagan, for Hillary Clinton and Michelle Obama. And others.
In one sense, you are right - it IS overblown! But that's just how it is, or a least has been.
Melania has been the most beautiful and elegant First Lady since Jackie Kennedy though, no doubt about that
What has her views on the Christmas decorations got to do with it? Visually she has been the most beautiful First Lady since Jackie Kennedy, no question
I've read that Melania Trump hasn't followed the tradition of previous First ladies by offering Jill Biden tea and a tour of the White House.
That just sounds mean-spirited and so typical of the Trump brand.
I wouldn't accept without a FFP3 mask and airtight goggles given how covid-happy the Trumps are - and that rather obviates the tea bit.
No-one voted for Melania Trump and no-one voted for Jill Biden. The whole First Lady thing is overblown.
Not really, certainly NOT in American history. Because the President is NOT just head of government, but also head of state. Thus from 1789 through 2021, the wife of the President has the same (or very similar) social and cultural status as Prince Philip.
When I say social do NOT mean upper-crust society of the hoity-toity kind, even in half-baked colonial fashion. Instead, the expectations of the mass of American people, most especially the majority of American woman.
My own mother, a child of the Great Depression who did not outlive the Reagan administration, was definitely a Democrat but not very politically-minded. She did, however, take an interest in the personalities and activities of all the First Ladies starting from when she was a girl and Eleanor Roosevelt was FLOTUS.
The lens through which she viewed and judged First Ladies was NOT political, nor partisan. > Her favorite was Pat Nixon, whom she admired for being a loyal wife, good mother, well-spoken and classy.
>Her least favorite was Jacqueline Kennedy, despite (or perhaps because) fact that she was enthusiastic Irish Catholic Democratic JFK supporter; in addition to wee touch of jealousy think she thought Jackie was too much of an elitist for her taste.
That was then. BUT even today, the FLOTUS still matters. The personalities, activities, problems and achievements of the First Ladies have been the stuff of our history and politics since Martha Washington, and always will.
BTW my own personal favorite First Lady is Dolley Madison. The extrovert Philadelphia widow & bombshell who turned White House entertaining into a major political asset for her way-more introverted hubby James Madison. His forte was writing the Constitution and creating the foundation for government; hers was lubricating the workings of that government with rum punch and a ready smile.
Dolley also, as every American schoolchild used to know, before the British were able to burn the White House during the War of 1812 (aka Mr Madison's War) she ordered the Gilbert Stuart painting of George Washington taken down and removed to safety. By the White House slaves. Nevertheless, she did it, and we'll never forget it.
Certainly impact of Mrs. Madison on her times AND subsequent generations was NOT overblown. Same can be said for Mary Toddy Lincoln and Eleanor Roosevelt. Similar case can be made for Jackie Kennedy and Nancy Reagan, for Hillary Clinton and Michelle Obama. And others.
In one sense, you are right - it IS overblown! But that's just how it is, or a least has been.
Melania has been the most beautiful and elegant First Lady since Jackie Kennedy though, no doubt about that
What has her views on the Christmas decorations got to do with it? Visually she has been the most beautiful First Lady since Jackie Kennedy, no question
You said 'most beautiful and elegant'. No way was Melania behaving elegantly in that tape.
Elegance 'the quality of being graceful and attractive in appearance or behaviour'.
So as long as you are attractive in appearance you can still be elegant regardless of behaviour
Can be, but are not guaranteed to be - notice the 'or behaviour' part. Someone can also be beautiful but lacking in elegance.
Why didn't you just say beautiful if you are also defining elegance solely by physical beauty?
This is the strangest example of you digging your heels in that I have ever seen.
@HYUFD can easily settle this with a Trafalgar poll showing 63% (exc. don't knows) find Melania (“I’m working … my arse off on the Christmas stuff, that you know, who gives a fuck about the Christmas stuff and decorations?”) to be fragrant, beautiful and elegant.
Wasn't someone on earlier saying these pics were probably not even current and possibly staged (by the EU and ScotGov funded ‘trade association' no doubt)?
Its the apocalypsofuck. These industries are going to collapse. Not because of a referendum asking if we should leave the EU. Because of political decisions to destroy British trade to appease morons.
So you support posting false claims to support your case. Says a lot about your honesty and integrity.
I'll take your comments on my integrity with the level of respect they deserve.
40% down on average. With days where there's almost nothing. Is not an industry that is sustainable. Never mind one that was supposed to have been resurrected by Brexit.
To be fair you rage against Brexit everyday and are hardly a neutral observer
I would suggest you need to calm down, and see how this pans out over the next few months
Fishing has always been an erratic industry and I think there may be some very anti Brexit propaganda going on, when in truth I doubt it is really registering with most as they fight covid
I have read the Irish and others are furious about the way their fishing has been compromised and I expect to see matters improve in the coming months
I think he has rather good reasons not to be a neutral observer.
Wasn't someone on earlier saying these pics were probably not even current and possibly staged (by the EU and ScotGov funded ‘trade association' no doubt)?
Its the apocalypsofuck. These industries are going to collapse. Not because of a referendum asking if we should leave the EU. Because of political decisions to destroy British trade to appease morons.
So you support posting false claims to support your case. Says a lot about your honesty and integrity.
I'll take your comments on my integrity with the level of respect they deserve.
40% down on average. With days where there's almost nothing. Is not an industry that is sustainable. Never mind one that was supposed to have been resurrected by Brexit.
To be fair you rage against Brexit everyday and are hardly a neutral observer
I would suggest you need to calm down, and see how this pans out over the next few months
Fishing has always been an erratic industry and I think there may be some very anti Brexit propaganda going on, when in truth I doubt it is really registering with most as they fight covid
I have read the Irish and others are furious about the way their fishing has been compromised and I expect to see matters improve in the coming months
You're quite right that I am not neutral. But neither are the numbers - the joy of just looking at the numbers is that they are impervious to political positioning and spin. All of the relevant trade metrics are bad - very bad. Considering the impact that this all has on Irish product costs I am not surprised they are furious. The extra cost and time of these UK-avoiding ferries and the collapse of their logistics chain isn't something they will have wanted either.
Wasn't someone on earlier saying these pics were probably not even current and possibly staged (by the EU and ScotGov funded ‘trade association' no doubt)?
Its the apocalypsofuck. These industries are going to collapse. Not because of a referendum asking if we should leave the EU. Because of political decisions to destroy British trade to appease morons.
So you support posting false claims to support your case. Says a lot about your honesty and integrity.
I'll take your comments on my integrity with the level of respect they deserve.
40% down on average. With days where there's almost nothing. Is not an industry that is sustainable. Never mind one that was supposed to have been resurrected by Brexit.
To be fair you rage against Brexit everyday and are hardly a neutral observer
I would suggest you need to calm down, and see how this pans out over the next few months
Fishing has always been an erratic industry and I think there may be some very anti Brexit propaganda going on, when in truth I doubt it is really registering with most as they fight covid
I have read the Irish and others are furious about the way their fishing has been compromised and I expect to see matters improve in the coming months
I think he has rather good reasons not to be a neutral observer.
I've read that Melania Trump hasn't followed the tradition of previous First ladies by offering Jill Biden tea and a tour of the White House.
That just sounds mean-spirited and so typical of the Trump brand.
I wouldn't accept without a FFP3 mask and airtight goggles given how covid-happy the Trumps are - and that rather obviates the tea bit.
No-one voted for Melania Trump and no-one voted for Jill Biden. The whole First Lady thing is overblown.
Not really, certainly NOT in American history. Because the President is NOT just head of government, but also head of state. Thus from 1789 through 2021, the wife of the President has the same (or very similar) social and cultural status as Prince Philip.
When I say social do NOT mean upper-crust society of the hoity-toity kind, even in half-baked colonial fashion. Instead, the expectations of the mass of American people, most especially the majority of American woman.
My own mother, a child of the Great Depression who did not outlive the Reagan administration, was definitely a Democrat but not very politically-minded. She did, however, take an interest in the personalities and activities of all the First Ladies starting from when she was a girl and Eleanor Roosevelt was FLOTUS.
The lens through which she viewed and judged First Ladies was NOT political, nor partisan. > Her favorite was Pat Nixon, whom she admired for being a loyal wife, good mother, well-spoken and classy.
>Her least favorite was Jacqueline Kennedy, despite (or perhaps because) fact that she was enthusiastic Irish Catholic Democratic JFK supporter; in addition to wee touch of jealousy think she thought Jackie was too much of an elitist for her taste.
That was then. BUT even today, the FLOTUS still matters. The personalities, activities, problems and achievements of the First Ladies have been the stuff of our history and politics since Martha Washington, and always will.
BTW my own personal favorite First Lady is Dolley Madison. The extrovert Philadelphia widow & bombshell who turned White House entertaining into a major political asset for her way-more introverted hubby James Madison. His forte was writing the Constitution and creating the foundation for government; hers was lubricating the workings of that government with rum punch and a ready smile.
Dolley also, as every American schoolchild used to know, before the British were able to burn the White House during the War of 1812 (aka Mr Madison's War) she ordered the Gilbert Stuart painting of George Washington taken down and removed to safety. By the White House slaves. Nevertheless, she did it, and we'll never forget it.
Certainly impact of Mrs. Madison on her times AND subsequent generations was NOT overblown. Same can be said for Mary Toddy Lincoln and Eleanor Roosevelt. Similar case can be made for Jackie Kennedy and Nancy Reagan, for Hillary Clinton and Michelle Obama. And others.
In one sense, you are right - it IS overblown! But that's just how it is, or a least has been.
Melania has been the most beautiful and elegant First Lady since Jackie Kennedy though, no doubt about that
What has her views on the Christmas decorations got to do with it? Visually she has been the most beautiful First Lady since Jackie Kennedy, no question
I've read that Melania Trump hasn't followed the tradition of previous First ladies by offering Jill Biden tea and a tour of the White House.
That just sounds mean-spirited and so typical of the Trump brand.
I wouldn't accept without a FFP3 mask and airtight goggles given how covid-happy the Trumps are - and that rather obviates the tea bit.
No-one voted for Melania Trump and no-one voted for Jill Biden. The whole First Lady thing is overblown.
Not really, certainly NOT in American history. Because the President is NOT just head of government, but also head of state. Thus from 1789 through 2021, the wife of the President has the same (or very similar) social and cultural status as Prince Philip.
When I say social do NOT mean upper-crust society of the hoity-toity kind, even in half-baked colonial fashion. Instead, the expectations of the mass of American people, most especially the majority of American woman.
My own mother, a child of the Great Depression who did not outlive the Reagan administration, was definitely a Democrat but not very politically-minded. She did, however, take an interest in the personalities and activities of all the First Ladies starting from when she was a girl and Eleanor Roosevelt was FLOTUS.
The lens through which she viewed and judged First Ladies was NOT political, nor partisan. > Her favorite was Pat Nixon, whom she admired for being a loyal wife, good mother, well-spoken and classy.
>Her least favorite was Jacqueline Kennedy, despite (or perhaps because) fact that she was enthusiastic Irish Catholic Democratic JFK supporter; in addition to wee touch of jealousy think she thought Jackie was too much of an elitist for her taste.
That was then. BUT even today, the FLOTUS still matters. The personalities, activities, problems and achievements of the First Ladies have been the stuff of our history and politics since Martha Washington, and always will.
BTW my own personal favorite First Lady is Dolley Madison. The extrovert Philadelphia widow & bombshell who turned White House entertaining into a major political asset for her way-more introverted hubby James Madison. His forte was writing the Constitution and creating the foundation for government; hers was lubricating the workings of that government with rum punch and a ready smile.
Dolley also, as every American schoolchild used to know, before the British were able to burn the White House during the War of 1812 (aka Mr Madison's War) she ordered the Gilbert Stuart painting of George Washington taken down and removed to safety. By the White House slaves. Nevertheless, she did it, and we'll never forget it.
Certainly impact of Mrs. Madison on her times AND subsequent generations was NOT overblown. Same can be said for Mary Toddy Lincoln and Eleanor Roosevelt. Similar case can be made for Jackie Kennedy and Nancy Reagan, for Hillary Clinton and Michelle Obama. And others.
In one sense, you are right - it IS overblown! But that's just how it is, or a least has been.
Melania has been the most beautiful and elegant First Lady since Jackie Kennedy though, no doubt about that
What has her views on the Christmas decorations got to do with it? Visually she has been the most beautiful First Lady since Jackie Kennedy, no question
You said 'most beautiful and elegant'. No way was Melania behaving elegantly in that tape.
Elegance 'the quality of being graceful and attractive in appearance or behaviour'.
So as long as you are attractive in appearance you can still be elegant regardless of behaviour
Can be, but are not guaranteed to be - notice the 'or behaviour' part. Someone can also be beautiful but lacking in elegance.
Why didn't you just say beautiful if you are also defining elegance solely by physical beauty?
This is the strangest example of you digging your heels in that I have ever seen.
@HYUFD can easily settle this with a Trafalgar poll showing 63% (exc. don't knows) find Melania “I’m working … my arse off on the Christmas stuff, that you know, who gives a fuck about the Christmas stuff and decorations?” fragrant, beautiful and elegant.
Nonononono. Has to be including don'tknows and dgafs.
Wasn't someone on earlier saying these pics were probably not even current and possibly staged (by the EU and ScotGov funded ‘trade association' no doubt)?
I do wish people would do a little bit of research before they repeat bollocks like this.
Today there were 418 boxes from 3 vessels landed. (Not the 220 claimed in the tweet)
But guess what.
Yesterday there were 4333 boxes landed from 19 vessels. Last Monday there were 6370 boxes landed from 20 vessels
Yes I am sure Brexit is having an effect but this sort of cherry picking of numbers to try and con people - and the fact so many on here are stupid enough to fall for it - just shows how desperate some people are for Brexit to fail.
You can look at all the numbers on the Peterhead port authority site. I reckon looking at the numbers on there and comparing to last year that landings are down by about 40%. This is bad. But the idea it has completely collapsed is just garbage.
It's worth bearing in mind few were landed today because many were on a protest in London yesterday.
Weren't they mostly shellfish operations? The BBC interviewed someone from the Dartmouth Crab Company, I assume Peterhead isn't part of their business plan.
Wasn't someone on earlier saying these pics were probably not even current and possibly staged (by the EU and ScotGov funded ‘trade association' no doubt)?
I do wish people would do a little bit of research before they repeat bollocks like this.
Today there were 418 boxes from 3 vessels landed. (Not the 220 claimed in the tweet)
But guess what.
Yesterday there were 4333 boxes landed from 19 vessels. Last Monday there were 6370 boxes landed from 20 vessels
Yes I am sure Brexit is having an effect but this sort of cherry picking of numbers to try and con people - and the fact so many on here are stupid enough to fall for it - just shows how desperate some people are for Brexit to fail.
You can look at all the numbers on the Peterhead port authority site. I reckon looking at the numbers on there and comparing to last year that landings are down by about 40%. This is bad. But the idea it has completely collapsed is just garbage.
It's worth bearing in mind few were landed today because many were on a protest in London yesterday.
Weren't they mostly shellfish operations? The BBC interviewed someone from the Dartmouth Crab Company, I assume Peterhead isn't part of their business plan.
Ditto D. R. Collin - one of the lorries in London. They'e Haimoothers. (Eyemouth, Borders, for the auditorily challenged.)
Wasn't someone on earlier saying these pics were probably not even current and possibly staged (by the EU and ScotGov funded ‘trade association' no doubt)?
I do wish people would do a little bit of research before they repeat bollocks like this.
Today there were 418 boxes from 3 vessels landed. (Not the 220 claimed in the tweet)
But guess what.
Yesterday there were 4333 boxes landed from 19 vessels. Last Monday there were 6370 boxes landed from 20 vessels
Yes I am sure Brexit is having an effect but this sort of cherry picking of numbers to try and con people - and the fact so many on here are stupid enough to fall for it - just shows how desperate some people are for Brexit to fail.
You can look at all the numbers on the Peterhead port authority site. I reckon looking at the numbers on there and comparing to last year that landings are down by about 40%. This is bad. But the idea it has completely collapsed is just garbage.
It's worth bearing in mind few were landed today because many were on a protest in London yesterday.
Weren't they mostly shellfish operations? The BBC interviewed someone from the Dartmouth Crab Company, I assume Peterhead isn't part of their business plan.
No no, its entirely a Scottish fishing issue that has been fabricated by the SNP. Apparently.
Wasn't someone on earlier saying these pics were probably not even current and possibly staged (by the EU and ScotGov funded ‘trade association' no doubt)?
Its the apocalypsofuck. These industries are going to collapse. Not because of a referendum asking if we should leave the EU. Because of political decisions to destroy British trade to appease morons.
So you support posting false claims to support your case. Says a lot about your honesty and integrity.
I'll take your comments on my integrity with the level of respect they deserve.
40% down on average. With days where there's almost nothing. Is not an industry that is sustainable. Never mind one that was supposed to have been resurrected by Brexit.
To be fair you rage against Brexit everyday and are hardly a neutral observer
I would suggest you need to calm down, and see how this pans out over the next few months
Fishing has always been an erratic industry and I think there may be some very anti Brexit propaganda going on, when in truth I doubt it is really registering with most as they fight covid
I have read the Irish and others are furious about the way their fishing has been compromised and I expect to see matters improve in the coming months
You're quite right that I am not neutral. But neither are the numbers - the joy of just looking at the numbers is that they are impervious to political positioning and spin. All of the relevant trade metrics are bad - very bad. Considering the impact that this all has on Irish product costs I am not surprised they are furious. The extra cost and time of these UK-avoiding ferries and the collapse of their logistics chain isn't something they will have wanted either.
You do know the Irish are furious with the EU over fishing
Wasn't someone on earlier saying these pics were probably not even current and possibly staged (by the EU and ScotGov funded ‘trade association' no doubt)?
Its the apocalypsofuck. These industries are going to collapse. Not because of a referendum asking if we should leave the EU. Because of political decisions to destroy British trade to appease morons.
So you support posting false claims to support your case. Says a lot about your honesty and integrity.
I'll take your comments on my integrity with the level of respect they deserve.
40% down on average. With days where there's almost nothing. Is not an industry that is sustainable. Never mind one that was supposed to have been resurrected by Brexit.
To be fair you rage against Brexit everyday and are hardly a neutral observer
I would suggest you need to calm down, and see how this pans out over the next few months
Fishing has always been an erratic industry and I think there may be some very anti Brexit propaganda going on, when in truth I doubt it is really registering with most as they fight covid
I have read the Irish and others are furious about the way their fishing has been compromised and I expect to see matters improve in the coming months
I think he has rather good reasons not to be a neutral observer.
As do others who simply refuse to accept brexit
I believe it is called BDS
You do know he voted for Brexit, as he's pointed out he wouldn't have voted for this shit show if he knew this is what the reality is.
So actually he's a better barometer on Brexit than you.
You said 'most beautiful and elegant'. No way was Melania behaving elegantly in that tape.
So you've watched the pee pee tape as well.
Accidently stumbled across it whilst searching for an new golden shower head to go with our golden bath taps (if Mrs. P asks).
My biggest ever internet faux pas.
I decided to google information on the new film starring Vin Diesel.
Without thinking I decided to google 'XXX movie'.
As you can imagine the search results were 'interesting'.
Friend of mine’s fiancée is from Cumbria, while working at Goldman’s, decided to Google the below pub with a view to a weekend away to show him the area she grew up in. When she saw the results she unplugged the computer and ran to the IT team to explain, while they fell about in hysterics.
Wasn't someone on earlier saying these pics were probably not even current and possibly staged (by the EU and ScotGov funded ‘trade association' no doubt)?
I do wish people would do a little bit of research before they repeat bollocks like this.
Today there were 418 boxes from 3 vessels landed. (Not the 220 claimed in the tweet)
But guess what.
Yesterday there were 4333 boxes landed from 19 vessels. Last Monday there were 6370 boxes landed from 20 vessels
Yes I am sure Brexit is having an effect but this sort of cherry picking of numbers to try and con people - and the fact so many on here are stupid enough to fall for it - just shows how desperate some people are for Brexit to fail.
You can look at all the numbers on the Peterhead port authority site. I reckon looking at the numbers on there and comparing to last year that landings are down by about 40%. This is bad. But the idea it has completely collapsed is just garbage.
It's worth bearing in mind few were landed today because many were on a protest in London yesterday.
Weren't they mostly shellfish operations? The BBC interviewed someone from the Dartmouth Crab Company, I assume Peterhead isn't part of their business plan.
No no, its entirely a Scottish fishing issue that has been fabricated by the SNP. Apparently.
Well, the Devonians are certainly crabbit about it all.
Wasn't someone on earlier saying these pics were probably not even current and possibly staged (by the EU and ScotGov funded ‘trade association' no doubt)?
I do wish people would do a little bit of research before they repeat bollocks like this.
Today there were 418 boxes from 3 vessels landed. (Not the 220 claimed in the tweet)
But guess what.
Yesterday there were 4333 boxes landed from 19 vessels. Last Monday there were 6370 boxes landed from 20 vessels
Yes I am sure Brexit is having an effect but this sort of cherry picking of numbers to try and con people - and the fact so many on here are stupid enough to fall for it - just shows how desperate some people are for Brexit to fail.
You can look at all the numbers on the Peterhead port authority site. I reckon looking at the numbers on there and comparing to last year that landings are down by about 40%. This is bad. But the idea it has completely collapsed is just garbage.
It's worth bearing in mind few were landed today because many were on a protest in London yesterday.
Weren't they mostly shellfish operations? The BBC interviewed someone from the Dartmouth Crab Company, I assume Peterhead isn't part of their business plan.
No no, its entirely a Scottish fishing issue that has been fabricated by the SNP. Apparently.
Shush, no one is supposed to get wind of this cunning plan!
Wasn't someone on earlier saying these pics were probably not even current and possibly staged (by the EU and ScotGov funded ‘trade association' no doubt)?
I do wish people would do a little bit of research before they repeat bollocks like this.
Today there were 418 boxes from 3 vessels landed. (Not the 220 claimed in the tweet)
But guess what.
Yesterday there were 4333 boxes landed from 19 vessels. Last Monday there were 6370 boxes landed from 20 vessels
Yes I am sure Brexit is having an effect but this sort of cherry picking of numbers to try and con people - and the fact so many on here are stupid enough to fall for it - just shows how desperate some people are for Brexit to fail.
You can look at all the numbers on the Peterhead port authority site. I reckon looking at the numbers on there and comparing to last year that landings are down by about 40%. This is bad. But the idea it has completely collapsed is just garbage.
It's worth bearing in mind few were landed today because many were on a protest in London yesterday.
Weren't they mostly shellfish operations? The BBC interviewed someone from the Dartmouth Crab Company, I assume Peterhead isn't part of their business plan.
It was a mixture of fish and shellfish. Although it's more of an issue for the latter as it has a shorter shelf life:
Wasn't someone on earlier saying these pics were probably not even current and possibly staged (by the EU and ScotGov funded ‘trade association' no doubt)?
Its the apocalypsofuck. These industries are going to collapse. Not because of a referendum asking if we should leave the EU. Because of political decisions to destroy British trade to appease morons.
So you support posting false claims to support your case. Says a lot about your honesty and integrity.
I'll take your comments on my integrity with the level of respect they deserve.
40% down on average. With days where there's almost nothing. Is not an industry that is sustainable. Never mind one that was supposed to have been resurrected by Brexit.
To be fair you rage against Brexit everyday and are hardly a neutral observer
I would suggest you need to calm down, and see how this pans out over the next few months
Fishing has always been an erratic industry and I think there may be some very anti Brexit propaganda going on, when in truth I doubt it is really registering with most as they fight covid
I have read the Irish and others are furious about the way their fishing has been compromised and I expect to see matters improve in the coming months
You're quite right that I am not neutral. But neither are the numbers - the joy of just looking at the numbers is that they are impervious to political positioning and spin. All of the relevant trade metrics are bad - very bad. Considering the impact that this all has on Irish product costs I am not surprised they are furious. The extra cost and time of these UK-avoiding ferries and the collapse of their logistics chain isn't something they will have wanted either.
You do know the Irish are furious with the EU over fishing
Were do you get your news? according to a feature they did on BBC radio news about 8.30 AM it was the British government they were furious with. The government minister was OK but sounded like he was playing a poor hand
Wasn't someone on earlier saying these pics were probably not even current and possibly staged (by the EU and ScotGov funded ‘trade association' no doubt)?
Its the apocalypsofuck. These industries are going to collapse. Not because of a referendum asking if we should leave the EU. Because of political decisions to destroy British trade to appease morons.
So you support posting false claims to support your case. Says a lot about your honesty and integrity.
I'll take your comments on my integrity with the level of respect they deserve.
40% down on average. With days where there's almost nothing. Is not an industry that is sustainable. Never mind one that was supposed to have been resurrected by Brexit.
To be fair you rage against Brexit everyday and are hardly a neutral observer
I would suggest you need to calm down, and see how this pans out over the next few months
Fishing has always been an erratic industry and I think there may be some very anti Brexit propaganda going on, when in truth I doubt it is really registering with most as they fight covid
I have read the Irish and others are furious about the way their fishing has been compromised and I expect to see matters improve in the coming months
I think he has rather good reasons not to be a neutral observer.
As do others who simply refuse to accept brexit
I believe it is called BDS
You do know he voted for Brexit, as he's pointed out he wouldn't have voted for this shit show if he knew this is what the reality is.
So actually he's a better barometer on Brexit than you.
We are less than 3 weeks into this process and those who cannot accept brexit or the deal are jumping onto every perceived downside.
I will respond to brexit at the next election when by then it should be clear just how successful it has been, or of course not
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Wasn't someone on earlier saying these pics were probably not even current and possibly staged (by the EU and ScotGov funded ‘trade association' no doubt)?
Its the apocalypsofuck. These industries are going to collapse. Not because of a referendum asking if we should leave the EU. Because of political decisions to destroy British trade to appease morons.
So you support posting false claims to support your case. Says a lot about your honesty and integrity.
I'll take your comments on my integrity with the level of respect they deserve.
40% down on average. With days where there's almost nothing. Is not an industry that is sustainable. Never mind one that was supposed to have been resurrected by Brexit.
To be fair you rage against Brexit everyday and are hardly a neutral observer
I would suggest you need to calm down, and see how this pans out over the next few months
Fishing has always been an erratic industry and I think there may be some very anti Brexit propaganda going on, when in truth I doubt it is really registering with most as they fight covid
I have read the Irish and others are furious about the way their fishing has been compromised and I expect to see matters improve in the coming months
You're quite right that I am not neutral. But neither are the numbers - the joy of just looking at the numbers is that they are impervious to political positioning and spin. All of the relevant trade metrics are bad - very bad. Considering the impact that this all has on Irish product costs I am not surprised they are furious. The extra cost and time of these UK-avoiding ferries and the collapse of their logistics chain isn't something they will have wanted either.
You do know the Irish are furious with the EU over fishing
Were do you get your news? according to a feature they did on BBC radio news about 8.30 AM it was the British government they were furious with. The government minister was OK but sounded like he was playing a poor hand
I've read that Melania Trump hasn't followed the tradition of previous First ladies by offering Jill Biden tea and a tour of the White House.
That just sounds mean-spirited and so typical of the Trump brand.
I wouldn't accept without a FFP3 mask and airtight goggles given how covid-happy the Trumps are - and that rather obviates the tea bit.
No-one voted for Melania Trump and no-one voted for Jill Biden. The whole First Lady thing is overblown.
Not really, certainly NOT in American history. Because the President is NOT just head of government, but also head of state. Thus from 1789 through 2021, the wife of the President has the same (or very similar) social and cultural status as Prince Philip.
When I say social do NOT mean upper-crust society of the hoity-toity kind, even in half-baked colonial fashion. Instead, the expectations of the mass of American people, most especially the majority of American woman.
My own mother, a child of the Great Depression who did not outlive the Reagan administration, was definitely a Democrat but not very politically-minded. She did, however, take an interest in the personalities and activities of all the First Ladies starting from when she was a girl and Eleanor Roosevelt was FLOTUS.
The lens through which she viewed and judged First Ladies was NOT political, nor partisan. > Her favorite was Pat Nixon, whom she admired for being a loyal wife, good mother, well-spoken and classy.
>Her least favorite was Jacqueline Kennedy, despite (or perhaps because) fact that she was enthusiastic Irish Catholic Democratic JFK supporter; in addition to wee touch of jealousy think she thought Jackie was too much of an elitist for her taste.
That was then. BUT even today, the FLOTUS still matters. The personalities, activities, problems and achievements of the First Ladies have been the stuff of our history and politics since Martha Washington, and always will.
BTW my own personal favorite First Lady is Dolley Madison. The extrovert Philadelphia widow & bombshell who turned White House entertaining into a major political asset for her way-more introverted hubby James Madison. His forte was writing the Constitution and creating the foundation for government; hers was lubricating the workings of that government with rum punch and a ready smile.
Dolley also, as every American schoolchild used to know, before the British were able to burn the White House during the War of 1812 (aka Mr Madison's War) she ordered the Gilbert Stuart painting of George Washington taken down and removed to safety. By the White House slaves. Nevertheless, she did it, and we'll never forget it.
Certainly impact of Mrs. Madison on her times AND subsequent generations was NOT overblown. Same can be said for Mary Toddy Lincoln and Eleanor Roosevelt. Similar case can be made for Jackie Kennedy and Nancy Reagan, for Hillary Clinton and Michelle Obama. And others.
In one sense, you are right - it IS overblown! But that's just how it is, or a least has been.
Melania has been the most beautiful and elegant First Lady since Jackie Kennedy though, no doubt about that
Jackie wowed the American people with her televised tour of the White House.
AND knocked the socks off the crown head of Europe, in competition with Eva Peron.
Melania? Not so much.
Jackie also had to tolerate her husband having at least one new woman a day, in the White House, and taking baths with them, where he would ask his Secret Service detail to help him: by forcing them to fellate him underwater, making them gag, thus intensifying his orgasms.
I really wouldn't hold up JFK's White House as any kind of paragon. More stylish than Trump, certainly.
Wasn't someone on earlier saying these pics were probably not even current and possibly staged (by the EU and ScotGov funded ‘trade association' no doubt)?
I do wish people would do a little bit of research before they repeat bollocks like this.
Today there were 418 boxes from 3 vessels landed. (Not the 220 claimed in the tweet)
But guess what.
Yesterday there were 4333 boxes landed from 19 vessels. Last Monday there were 6370 boxes landed from 20 vessels
Yes I am sure Brexit is having an effect but this sort of cherry picking of numbers to try and con people - and the fact so many on here are stupid enough to fall for it - just shows how desperate some people are for Brexit to fail.
You can look at all the numbers on the Peterhead port authority site. I reckon looking at the numbers on there and comparing to last year that landings are down by about 40%. This is bad. But the idea it has completely collapsed is just garbage.
It's worth bearing in mind few were landed today because many were on a protest in London yesterday.
Weren't they mostly shellfish operations? The BBC interviewed someone from the Dartmouth Crab Company, I assume Peterhead isn't part of their business plan.
No no, its entirely a Scottish fishing issue that has been fabricated by the SNP. Apparently.
Shush, no one is supposed to get wind of this cunning plan!
IT was the SNP's plan in 2014 for Scotland to leave the UK and the EU simultaneously, on a YES vote. Sturgeon never saw a problem with THAT.
Wasn't someone on earlier saying these pics were probably not even current and possibly staged (by the EU and ScotGov funded ‘trade association' no doubt)?
Its the apocalypsofuck. These industries are going to collapse. Not because of a referendum asking if we should leave the EU. Because of political decisions to destroy British trade to appease morons.
So you support posting false claims to support your case. Says a lot about your honesty and integrity.
I'll take your comments on my integrity with the level of respect they deserve.
40% down on average. With days where there's almost nothing. Is not an industry that is sustainable. Never mind one that was supposed to have been resurrected by Brexit.
To be fair you rage against Brexit everyday and are hardly a neutral observer
I would suggest you need to calm down, and see how this pans out over the next few months
Fishing has always been an erratic industry and I think there may be some very anti Brexit propaganda going on, when in truth I doubt it is really registering with most as they fight covid
I have read the Irish and others are furious about the way their fishing has been compromised and I expect to see matters improve in the coming months
I think he has rather good reasons not to be a neutral observer.
As do others who simply refuse to accept brexit
I believe it is called BDS
You do know he voted for Brexit, as he's pointed out he wouldn't have voted for this shit show if he knew this is what the reality is.
So actually he's a better barometer on Brexit than you.
We are less than 3 weeks into this process and those who cannot accept brexit or the deal are jumping onto every perceived downside.
I will respond to brexit at the next election when by then it should be clear just how successful it has been, or of course not
I think you may have overbought in to your own nonsense about "BDS" here. There's plenty who weren't that fussed one way or the other as between continued EU membership and a sensible EEA sort of arrangement, who now think that the evidence is growing that the version of brexit we have ended up with is a disaster. You personally can delay your response till the next election, or run the rather perplexing argument that it doesn't really matter because people are more focused on covid (which I bet the fishermen aren't) but you can't sit and complain about other people assessing events as they actually happen. Because that's how most people process events.
Wasn't someone on earlier saying these pics were probably not even current and possibly staged (by the EU and ScotGov funded ‘trade association' no doubt)?
Its the apocalypsofuck. These industries are going to collapse. Not because of a referendum asking if we should leave the EU. Because of political decisions to destroy British trade to appease morons.
Amazing that they managed 20x just the day before.
A magnificent 40% instant drop vs normal, with some days an absolute ghost town! Thats what every healthy business looks like. Obviously.
I've read that Melania Trump hasn't followed the tradition of previous First ladies by offering Jill Biden tea and a tour of the White House.
That just sounds mean-spirited and so typical of the Trump brand.
I wouldn't accept without a FFP3 mask and airtight goggles given how covid-happy the Trumps are - and that rather obviates the tea bit.
No-one voted for Melania Trump and no-one voted for Jill Biden. The whole First Lady thing is overblown.
Not really, certainly NOT in American history. Because the President is NOT just head of government, but also head of state. Thus from 1789 through 2021, the wife of the President has the same (or very similar) social and cultural status as Prince Philip.
When I say social do NOT mean upper-crust society of the hoity-toity kind, even in half-baked colonial fashion. Instead, the expectations of the mass of American people, most especially the majority of American woman.
My own mother, a child of the Great Depression who did not outlive the Reagan administration, was definitely a Democrat but not very politically-minded. She did, however, take an interest in the personalities and activities of all the First Ladies starting from when she was a girl and Eleanor Roosevelt was FLOTUS.
The lens through which she viewed and judged First Ladies was NOT political, nor partisan. > Her favorite was Pat Nixon, whom she admired for being a loyal wife, good mother, well-spoken and classy.
>Her least favorite was Jacqueline Kennedy, despite (or perhaps because) fact that she was enthusiastic Irish Catholic Democratic JFK supporter; in addition to wee touch of jealousy think she thought Jackie was too much of an elitist for her taste.
That was then. BUT even today, the FLOTUS still matters. The personalities, activities, problems and achievements of the First Ladies have been the stuff of our history and politics since Martha Washington, and always will.
BTW my own personal favorite First Lady is Dolley Madison. The extrovert Philadelphia widow & bombshell who turned White House entertaining into a major political asset for her way-more introverted hubby James Madison. His forte was writing the Constitution and creating the foundation for government; hers was lubricating the workings of that government with rum punch and a ready smile.
Dolley also, as every American schoolchild used to know, before the British were able to burn the White House during the War of 1812 (aka Mr Madison's War) she ordered the Gilbert Stuart painting of George Washington taken down and removed to safety. By the White House slaves. Nevertheless, she did it, and we'll never forget it.
Certainly impact of Mrs. Madison on her times AND subsequent generations was NOT overblown. Same can be said for Mary Toddy Lincoln and Eleanor Roosevelt. Similar case can be made for Jackie Kennedy and Nancy Reagan, for Hillary Clinton and Michelle Obama. And others.
In one sense, you are right - it IS overblown! But that's just how it is, or a least has been.
Melania has been the most beautiful and elegant First Lady since Jackie Kennedy though, no doubt about that
Jackie wowed the American people with her televised tour of the White House.
AND knocked the socks off the crown head of Europe, in competition with Eva Peron.
Melania? Not so much.
Jackie also had to tolerate her husband having at least one new woman a day, in the White House, and taking baths with them, where he would ask his Secret Service detail to help him: by forcing them to fellate him underwater, making them gag, thus intensifying his orgasms.
I really wouldn't hold up JFK's White House as any kind of paragon. More stylish than Trump, certainly.
One thing Melania and Jackie had in common, charismatic, very rich, sex mad, womanising husbands.
Hillary Clinton shared most of that with them (though Bill was never as rich as JFK or Trump) but was never as beautiful as them though probably more intelligent.
Israel’s coronavirus czar has warned that the first dose of the Pfizer vaccine offers less protection than expected, as he blamed the country’s surge in Covid cases partly on the new British variant.
Nachman Ash said many Israelis had caught Covid in between their first and second doses of the Pfizer vaccine, suggesting that the first jab is “less effective than we thought,” according to Army Radio. ...
We know immunity builds up slowly after the first vaccination - Pfizer claims 52% immunity by Day 12 - the JCVI puts it somewhat higher. Pfizer than state with a second vaccination immunity reaches 95% seven days after and there's no evidence contradicting that from Israel.
I continue to believe the British Government has made a mistake not prioritising the 21-day second vaccination for the most vulnerable and instead preferring to provide a first vaccination for a larger number of people.
Wasn't someone on earlier saying these pics were probably not even current and possibly staged (by the EU and ScotGov funded ‘trade association' no doubt)?
Its the apocalypsofuck. These industries are going to collapse. Not because of a referendum asking if we should leave the EU. Because of political decisions to destroy British trade to appease morons.
So you support posting false claims to support your case. Says a lot about your honesty and integrity.
I'll take your comments on my integrity with the level of respect they deserve.
40% down on average. With days where there's almost nothing. Is not an industry that is sustainable. Never mind one that was supposed to have been resurrected by Brexit.
To be fair you rage against Brexit everyday and are hardly a neutral observer
I would suggest you need to calm down, and see how this pans out over the next few months
Fishing has always been an erratic industry and I think there may be some very anti Brexit propaganda going on, when in truth I doubt it is really registering with most as they fight covid
I have read the Irish and others are furious about the way their fishing has been compromised and I expect to see matters improve in the coming months
I think he has rather good reasons not to be a neutral observer.
As do others who simply refuse to accept brexit
I believe it is called BDS
You do know he voted for Brexit, as he's pointed out he wouldn't have voted for this shit show if he knew this is what the reality is.
So actually he's a better barometer on Brexit than you.
We are less than 3 weeks into this process and those who cannot accept brexit or the deal are jumping onto every perceived downside.
I will respond to brexit at the next election when by then it should be clear just how successful it has been, or of course not
I think you may have overbought in to your own nonsense about "BDS" here. There's plenty who weren't that fussed one way or the other as between continued EU membership and a sensible EEA sort of arrangement, who now think that the evidence is growing that the version of brexit we have ended up with is a disaster. You personally can delay your response till the next election, or run the rather perplexing argument that it doesn't really matter because people are more focused on covid (which I bet the fishermen aren't) but you can't sit and complain about other people assessing events as they actually happen. Because that's how most people process events.
I have no objection to constructive criticism and there can be no doubt there are real issues but 3 weeks into brexit it is far too early to attack every issue as if it is armageddon, especially with HMG fighting covid
He was the best President of my lifetime, won the Gulf War with an international coalition, ended the Cold War on his watch, cut the deficit, agreed climate targets at the Rio Summit, took action for the disabled.
Yet, despite the assistance of the Conservative Party, he still managed to lose to Bill Clinton in 1992.
I've read that Melania Trump hasn't followed the tradition of previous First ladies by offering Jill Biden tea and a tour of the White House.
That just sounds mean-spirited and so typical of the Trump brand.
I wouldn't accept without a FFP3 mask and airtight goggles given how covid-happy the Trumps are - and that rather obviates the tea bit.
No-one voted for Melania Trump and no-one voted for Jill Biden. The whole First Lady thing is overblown.
Not really, certainly NOT in American history. Because the President is NOT just head of government, but also head of state. Thus from 1789 through 2021, the wife of the President has the same (or very similar) social and cultural status as Prince Philip.
When I say social do NOT mean upper-crust society of the hoity-toity kind, even in half-baked colonial fashion. Instead, the expectations of the mass of American people, most especially the majority of American woman.
My own mother, a child of the Great Depression who did not outlive the Reagan administration, was definitely a Democrat but not very politically-minded. She did, however, take an interest in the personalities and activities of all the First Ladies starting from when she was a girl and Eleanor Roosevelt was FLOTUS.
The lens through which she viewed and judged First Ladies was NOT political, nor partisan. > Her favorite was Pat Nixon, whom she admired for being a loyal wife, good mother, well-spoken and classy.
>Her least favorite was Jacqueline Kennedy, despite (or perhaps because) fact that she was enthusiastic Irish Catholic Democratic JFK supporter; in addition to wee touch of jealousy think she thought Jackie was too much of an elitist for her taste.
That was then. BUT even today, the FLOTUS still matters. The personalities, activities, problems and achievements of the First Ladies have been the stuff of our history and politics since Martha Washington, and always will.
BTW my own personal favorite First Lady is Dolley Madison. The extrovert Philadelphia widow & bombshell who turned White House entertaining into a major political asset for her way-more introverted hubby James Madison. His forte was writing the Constitution and creating the foundation for government; hers was lubricating the workings of that government with rum punch and a ready smile.
Dolley also, as every American schoolchild used to know, before the British were able to burn the White House during the War of 1812 (aka Mr Madison's War) she ordered the Gilbert Stuart painting of George Washington taken down and removed to safety. By the White House slaves. Nevertheless, she did it, and we'll never forget it.
Certainly impact of Mrs. Madison on her times AND subsequent generations was NOT overblown. Same can be said for Mary Toddy Lincoln and Eleanor Roosevelt. Similar case can be made for Jackie Kennedy and Nancy Reagan, for Hillary Clinton and Michelle Obama. And others.
In one sense, you are right - it IS overblown! But that's just how it is, or a least has been.
Melania has been the most beautiful and elegant First Lady since Jackie Kennedy though, no doubt about that
Fragrant, is she ?
Another small datum confirming the Tories have no taste hypothesis.
Wasn't someone on earlier saying these pics were probably not even current and possibly staged (by the EU and ScotGov funded ‘trade association' no doubt)?
I do wish people would do a little bit of research before they repeat bollocks like this.
Today there were 418 boxes from 3 vessels landed. (Not the 220 claimed in the tweet)
But guess what.
Yesterday there were 4333 boxes landed from 19 vessels. Last Monday there were 6370 boxes landed from 20 vessels
Yes I am sure Brexit is having an effect but this sort of cherry picking of numbers to try and con people - and the fact so many on here are stupid enough to fall for it - just shows how desperate some people are for Brexit to fail.
You can look at all the numbers on the Peterhead port authority site. I reckon looking at the numbers on there and comparing to last year that landings are down by about 40%. This is bad. But the idea it has completely collapsed is just garbage.
It's worth bearing in mind few were landed today because many were on a protest in London yesterday.
Weren't they mostly shellfish operations? The BBC interviewed someone from the Dartmouth Crab Company, I assume Peterhead isn't part of their business plan.
No no, its entirely a Scottish fishing issue that has been fabricated by the SNP. Apparently.
Shush, no one is supposed to get wind of this cunning plan!
IT was the SNP's plan in 2014 for Scotland to leave the UK and the EU simultaneously, on a YES vote. Sturgeon never saw a problem with THAT.
Well, she denied it would happen at all and EU membership would be grandfathered.
I think she *hoped* that that could be negotiated simultaneously whilst Scotland negotiated to leave the UK, so there was no gap, and she'd ascend automatically to the EU as she left the UK at the end of a transition period.
However, there was no evidence for that other than wishful thinking.
Wasn't someone on earlier saying these pics were probably not even current and possibly staged (by the EU and ScotGov funded ‘trade association' no doubt)?
Its the apocalypsofuck. These industries are going to collapse. Not because of a referendum asking if we should leave the EU. Because of political decisions to destroy British trade to appease morons.
So you support posting false claims to support your case. Says a lot about your honesty and integrity.
I'll take your comments on my integrity with the level of respect they deserve.
40% down on average. With days where there's almost nothing. Is not an industry that is sustainable. Never mind one that was supposed to have been resurrected by Brexit.
To be fair you rage against Brexit everyday and are hardly a neutral observer
I would suggest you need to calm down, and see how this pans out over the next few months
Fishing has always been an erratic industry and I think there may be some very anti Brexit propaganda going on, when in truth I doubt it is really registering with most as they fight covid
I have read the Irish and others are furious about the way their fishing has been compromised and I expect to see matters improve in the coming months
I think he has rather good reasons not to be a neutral observer.
As do others who simply refuse to accept brexit
I believe it is called BDS
You do know he voted for Brexit, as he's pointed out he wouldn't have voted for this shit show if he knew this is what the reality is.
So actually he's a better barometer on Brexit than you.
We are less than 3 weeks into this process and those who cannot accept brexit or the deal are jumping onto every perceived downside.
I will respond to brexit at the next election when by then it should be clear just how successful it has been, or of course not
I think you may have overbought in to your own nonsense about "BDS" here. There's plenty who weren't that fussed one way or the other as between continued EU membership and a sensible EEA sort of arrangement, who now think that the evidence is growing that the version of brexit we have ended up with is a disaster. You personally can delay your response till the next election, or run the rather perplexing argument that it doesn't really matter because people are more focused on covid (which I bet the fishermen aren't) but you can't sit and complain about other people assessing events as they actually happen. Because that's how most people process events.
I have no objection to constructive criticism and there can be no doubt there are real issues but 3 weeks into brexit it is far too early to attack every issue as if it is armageddon, especially with HMG fighting covid
The drunk driver's fallacy - Why aren't you out catching rapists and burglars, offisher? We can deal with more than one thing at a time.
Wasn't someone on earlier saying these pics were probably not even current and possibly staged (by the EU and ScotGov funded ‘trade association' no doubt)?
I do wish people would do a little bit of research before they repeat bollocks like this.
Today there were 418 boxes from 3 vessels landed. (Not the 220 claimed in the tweet)
But guess what.
Yesterday there were 4333 boxes landed from 19 vessels. Last Monday there were 6370 boxes landed from 20 vessels
Yes I am sure Brexit is having an effect but this sort of cherry picking of numbers to try and con people - and the fact so many on here are stupid enough to fall for it - just shows how desperate some people are for Brexit to fail.
You can look at all the numbers on the Peterhead port authority site. I reckon looking at the numbers on there and comparing to last year that landings are down by about 40%. This is bad. But the idea it has completely collapsed is just garbage.
It's worth bearing in mind few were landed today because many were on a protest in London yesterday.
Weren't they mostly shellfish operations? The BBC interviewed someone from the Dartmouth Crab Company, I assume Peterhead isn't part of their business plan.
No no, its entirely a Scottish fishing issue that has been fabricated by the SNP. Apparently.
Shush, no one is supposed to get wind of this cunning plan!
IT was the SNP's plan in 2014 for Scotland to leave the UK and the EU simultaneously, on a YES vote. Sturgeon never saw a problem with THAT.
'We must not examine our various winning manifestos that give every sign of producing a clusterfuck and being deeply unpopular, let us instead examine a losing manifesto of more than six years ago.'
I've read that Melania Trump hasn't followed the tradition of previous First ladies by offering Jill Biden tea and a tour of the White House.
That just sounds mean-spirited and so typical of the Trump brand.
I wouldn't accept without a FFP3 mask and airtight goggles given how covid-happy the Trumps are - and that rather obviates the tea bit.
No-one voted for Melania Trump and no-one voted for Jill Biden. The whole First Lady thing is overblown.
Not really, certainly NOT in American history. Because the President is NOT just head of government, but also head of state. Thus from 1789 through 2021, the wife of the President has the same (or very similar) social and cultural status as Prince Philip.
When I say social do NOT mean upper-crust society of the hoity-toity kind, even in half-baked colonial fashion. Instead, the expectations of the mass of American people, most especially the majority of American woman.
My own mother, a child of the Great Depression who did not outlive the Reagan administration, was definitely a Democrat but not very politically-minded. She did, however, take an interest in the personalities and activities of all the First Ladies starting from when she was a girl and Eleanor Roosevelt was FLOTUS.
The lens through which she viewed and judged First Ladies was NOT political, nor partisan. > Her favorite was Pat Nixon, whom she admired for being a loyal wife, good mother, well-spoken and classy.
>Her least favorite was Jacqueline Kennedy, despite (or perhaps because) fact that she was enthusiastic Irish Catholic Democratic JFK supporter; in addition to wee touch of jealousy think she thought Jackie was too much of an elitist for her taste.
That was then. BUT even today, the FLOTUS still matters. The personalities, activities, problems and achievements of the First Ladies have been the stuff of our history and politics since Martha Washington, and always will.
BTW my own personal favorite First Lady is Dolley Madison. The extrovert Philadelphia widow & bombshell who turned White House entertaining into a major political asset for her way-more introverted hubby James Madison. His forte was writing the Constitution and creating the foundation for government; hers was lubricating the workings of that government with rum punch and a ready smile.
Dolley also, as every American schoolchild used to know, before the British were able to burn the White House during the War of 1812 (aka Mr Madison's War) she ordered the Gilbert Stuart painting of George Washington taken down and removed to safety. By the White House slaves. Nevertheless, she did it, and we'll never forget it.
Certainly impact of Mrs. Madison on her times AND subsequent generations was NOT overblown. Same can be said for Mary Toddy Lincoln and Eleanor Roosevelt. Similar case can be made for Jackie Kennedy and Nancy Reagan, for Hillary Clinton and Michelle Obama. And others.
In one sense, you are right - it IS overblown! But that's just how it is, or a least has been.
Melania has been the most beautiful and elegant First Lady since Jackie Kennedy though, no doubt about that
Jackie wowed the American people with her televised tour of the White House.
AND knocked the socks off the crown head of Europe, in competition with Eva Peron.
Melania? Not so much.
Jackie also had to tolerate her husband having at least one new woman a day, in the White House, and taking baths with them, where he would ask his Secret Service detail to help him: by forcing them to fellate him underwater, making them gag, thus intensifying his orgasms.
I really wouldn't hold up JFK's White House as any kind of paragon. More stylish than Trump, certainly.
One thing Melania and Jackie had in common, charismatic, very rich, sex mad womanising husbands.
Hillary Clinton shared most of that with them (though Bill was never as rich as JFK or Trump) but was never as beautiful as them though probably more intelligent.
I agree that Melania is the most beautiful First Lady since Jackie, indeed, more beautiful. An incredible face and figure.
Looking at photos of her was one of vanishingly rare upsides of the Trump era.
Also, she brought us this photo, possibly the creepiest, most unsettling in the history of Franco-American relations. Presidential Wifeswap: a reality TV show
Israel’s coronavirus czar has warned that the first dose of the Pfizer vaccine offers less protection than expected, as he blamed the country’s surge in Covid cases partly on the new British variant.
Nachman Ash said many Israelis had caught Covid in between their first and second doses of the Pfizer vaccine, suggesting that the first jab is “less effective than we thought,” according to Army Radio. ...
We know immunity builds up slowly after the first vaccination - Pfizer claims 52% immunity by Day 12 - the JCVI puts it somewhat higher. Pfizer than state with a second vaccination immunity reaches 95% seven days after and there's no evidence contradicting that from Israel.
I continue to believe the British Government has made a mistake not prioritising the 21-day second vaccination for the most vulnerable and instead preferring to provide a first vaccination for a larger number of people.
Yes, just read the Times of Israel version on this story and as you say I can’t see any data contradiction either. Looks like ropey even irresponsible (?) reporting.
Wasn't someone on earlier saying these pics were probably not even current and possibly staged (by the EU and ScotGov funded ‘trade association' no doubt)?
I do wish people would do a little bit of research before they repeat bollocks like this.
Today there were 418 boxes from 3 vessels landed. (Not the 220 claimed in the tweet)
But guess what.
Yesterday there were 4333 boxes landed from 19 vessels. Last Monday there were 6370 boxes landed from 20 vessels
Yes I am sure Brexit is having an effect but this sort of cherry picking of numbers to try and con people - and the fact so many on here are stupid enough to fall for it - just shows how desperate some people are for Brexit to fail.
You can look at all the numbers on the Peterhead port authority site. I reckon looking at the numbers on there and comparing to last year that landings are down by about 40%. This is bad. But the idea it has completely collapsed is just garbage.
It's worth bearing in mind few were landed today because many were on a protest in London yesterday.
Weren't they mostly shellfish operations? The BBC interviewed someone from the Dartmouth Crab Company, I assume Peterhead isn't part of their business plan.
No no, its entirely a Scottish fishing issue that has been fabricated by the SNP. Apparently.
Shush, no one is supposed to get wind of this cunning plan!
IT was the SNP's plan in 2014 for Scotland to leave the UK and the EU simultaneously, on a YES vote. Sturgeon never saw a problem with THAT.
'We must not examine our various winning manifestos that give every sign of producing a clusterfuck and being deeply unpopular, let us instead examine a losing manifesto of more than six years ago.'
There ya go. You can't deny it. Last time around, indyref1, the SNP - including Sturgeon - eagerly wanted Scotland to leave the EU and the UK, at the same time, so all these problems would have been even WORSE
The SNP are a bunch of opportunistic, lying hypocrites. I guess that's not news?
He was the best President of my lifetime, won the Gulf War with an international coalition, ended the Cold War on his watch, cut the deficit, agreed climate targets at the Rio Summit, took action for the disabled.
Yet, despite the assistance of the Conservative Party, he still managed to lose to Bill Clinton in 1992.
Like Major and the Tories in 1997, the GOP in 1992 had simply been in power too long and Clinton like Blair made few major changes to what the administration had been doing before.
Generally however now Bush Snr and Major are looked back on by historians and the public as statesmen who left a good legacy.
I've read that Melania Trump hasn't followed the tradition of previous First ladies by offering Jill Biden tea and a tour of the White House.
That just sounds mean-spirited and so typical of the Trump brand.
I wouldn't accept without a FFP3 mask and airtight goggles given how covid-happy the Trumps are - and that rather obviates the tea bit.
No-one voted for Melania Trump and no-one voted for Jill Biden. The whole First Lady thing is overblown.
Not really, certainly NOT in American history. Because the President is NOT just head of government, but also head of state. Thus from 1789 through 2021, the wife of the President has the same (or very similar) social and cultural status as Prince Philip.
When I say social do NOT mean upper-crust society of the hoity-toity kind, even in half-baked colonial fashion. Instead, the expectations of the mass of American people, most especially the majority of American woman.
My own mother, a child of the Great Depression who did not outlive the Reagan administration, was definitely a Democrat but not very politically-minded. She did, however, take an interest in the personalities and activities of all the First Ladies starting from when she was a girl and Eleanor Roosevelt was FLOTUS.
The lens through which she viewed and judged First Ladies was NOT political, nor partisan. > Her favorite was Pat Nixon, whom she admired for being a loyal wife, good mother, well-spoken and classy.
>Her least favorite was Jacqueline Kennedy, despite (or perhaps because) fact that she was enthusiastic Irish Catholic Democratic JFK supporter; in addition to wee touch of jealousy think she thought Jackie was too much of an elitist for her taste.
That was then. BUT even today, the FLOTUS still matters. The personalities, activities, problems and achievements of the First Ladies have been the stuff of our history and politics since Martha Washington, and always will.
BTW my own personal favorite First Lady is Dolley Madison. The extrovert Philadelphia widow & bombshell who turned White House entertaining into a major political asset for her way-more introverted hubby James Madison. His forte was writing the Constitution and creating the foundation for government; hers was lubricating the workings of that government with rum punch and a ready smile.
Dolley also, as every American schoolchild used to know, before the British were able to burn the White House during the War of 1812 (aka Mr Madison's War) she ordered the Gilbert Stuart painting of George Washington taken down and removed to safety. By the White House slaves. Nevertheless, she did it, and we'll never forget it.
Certainly impact of Mrs. Madison on her times AND subsequent generations was NOT overblown. Same can be said for Mary Toddy Lincoln and Eleanor Roosevelt. Similar case can be made for Jackie Kennedy and Nancy Reagan, for Hillary Clinton and Michelle Obama. And others.
In one sense, you are right - it IS overblown! But that's just how it is, or a least has been.
Melania has been the most beautiful and elegant First Lady since Jackie Kennedy though, no doubt about that
Fragrant, is she ?
Another small datum confirming the Tories have no taste hypothesis.
This conservative thinks she is ghastly and her husband is far far worse
I've read that Melania Trump hasn't followed the tradition of previous First ladies by offering Jill Biden tea and a tour of the White House.
That just sounds mean-spirited and so typical of the Trump brand.
I wouldn't accept without a FFP3 mask and airtight goggles given how covid-happy the Trumps are - and that rather obviates the tea bit.
No-one voted for Melania Trump and no-one voted for Jill Biden. The whole First Lady thing is overblown.
Not really, certainly NOT in American history. Because the President is NOT just head of government, but also head of state. Thus from 1789 through 2021, the wife of the President has the same (or very similar) social and cultural status as Prince Philip.
When I say social do NOT mean upper-crust society of the hoity-toity kind, even in half-baked colonial fashion. Instead, the expectations of the mass of American people, most especially the majority of American woman.
My own mother, a child of the Great Depression who did not outlive the Reagan administration, was definitely a Democrat but not very politically-minded. She did, however, take an interest in the personalities and activities of all the First Ladies starting from when she was a girl and Eleanor Roosevelt was FLOTUS.
The lens through which she viewed and judged First Ladies was NOT political, nor partisan. > Her favorite was Pat Nixon, whom she admired for being a loyal wife, good mother, well-spoken and classy.
>Her least favorite was Jacqueline Kennedy, despite (or perhaps because) fact that she was enthusiastic Irish Catholic Democratic JFK supporter; in addition to wee touch of jealousy think she thought Jackie was too much of an elitist for her taste.
That was then. BUT even today, the FLOTUS still matters. The personalities, activities, problems and achievements of the First Ladies have been the stuff of our history and politics since Martha Washington, and always will.
BTW my own personal favorite First Lady is Dolley Madison. The extrovert Philadelphia widow & bombshell who turned White House entertaining into a major political asset for her way-more introverted hubby James Madison. His forte was writing the Constitution and creating the foundation for government; hers was lubricating the workings of that government with rum punch and a ready smile.
Dolley also, as every American schoolchild used to know, before the British were able to burn the White House during the War of 1812 (aka Mr Madison's War) she ordered the Gilbert Stuart painting of George Washington taken down and removed to safety. By the White House slaves. Nevertheless, she did it, and we'll never forget it.
Certainly impact of Mrs. Madison on her times AND subsequent generations was NOT overblown. Same can be said for Mary Toddy Lincoln and Eleanor Roosevelt. Similar case can be made for Jackie Kennedy and Nancy Reagan, for Hillary Clinton and Michelle Obama. And others.
In one sense, you are right - it IS overblown! But that's just how it is, or a least has been.
Melania has been the most beautiful and elegant First Lady since Jackie Kennedy though, no doubt about that
Jackie wowed the American people with her televised tour of the White House.
AND knocked the socks off the crown head of Europe, in competition with Eva Peron.
Melania? Not so much.
Jackie also had to tolerate her husband having at least one new woman a day, in the White House, and taking baths with them, where he would ask his Secret Service detail to help him: by forcing them to fellate him underwater, making them gag, thus intensifying his orgasms.
I really wouldn't hold up JFK's White House as any kind of paragon. More stylish than Trump, certainly.
One thing Melania and Jackie had in common, charismatic, very rich, sex mad womanising husbands.
Hillary Clinton shared most of that with them (though Bill was never as rich as JFK or Trump) but was never as beautiful as them though probably more intelligent.
I agree that Melania is the most beautiful First Lady since Jackie, indeed, more beautiful. An incredible face and figure.
Looking at photos of her was one of vanishingly rare upsides of the Trump era.
Also, she brought us this photo, possibly the creepiest, most unsettling in the history of Franco-American relations. Presidential Wifeswap: a reality TV show
I've read that Melania Trump hasn't followed the tradition of previous First ladies by offering Jill Biden tea and a tour of the White House.
That just sounds mean-spirited and so typical of the Trump brand.
I wouldn't accept without a FFP3 mask and airtight goggles given how covid-happy the Trumps are - and that rather obviates the tea bit.
No-one voted for Melania Trump and no-one voted for Jill Biden. The whole First Lady thing is overblown.
Not really, certainly NOT in American history. Because the President is NOT just head of government, but also head of state. Thus from 1789 through 2021, the wife of the President has the same (or very similar) social and cultural status as Prince Philip.
When I say social do NOT mean upper-crust society of the hoity-toity kind, even in half-baked colonial fashion. Instead, the expectations of the mass of American people, most especially the majority of American woman.
My own mother, a child of the Great Depression who did not outlive the Reagan administration, was definitely a Democrat but not very politically-minded. She did, however, take an interest in the personalities and activities of all the First Ladies starting from when she was a girl and Eleanor Roosevelt was FLOTUS.
The lens through which she viewed and judged First Ladies was NOT political, nor partisan. > Her favorite was Pat Nixon, whom she admired for being a loyal wife, good mother, well-spoken and classy.
>Her least favorite was Jacqueline Kennedy, despite (or perhaps because) fact that she was enthusiastic Irish Catholic Democratic JFK supporter; in addition to wee touch of jealousy think she thought Jackie was too much of an elitist for her taste.
That was then. BUT even today, the FLOTUS still matters. The personalities, activities, problems and achievements of the First Ladies have been the stuff of our history and politics since Martha Washington, and always will.
BTW my own personal favorite First Lady is Dolley Madison. The extrovert Philadelphia widow & bombshell who turned White House entertaining into a major political asset for her way-more introverted hubby James Madison. His forte was writing the Constitution and creating the foundation for government; hers was lubricating the workings of that government with rum punch and a ready smile.
Dolley also, as every American schoolchild used to know, before the British were able to burn the White House during the War of 1812 (aka Mr Madison's War) she ordered the Gilbert Stuart painting of George Washington taken down and removed to safety. By the White House slaves. Nevertheless, she did it, and we'll never forget it.
Certainly impact of Mrs. Madison on her times AND subsequent generations was NOT overblown. Same can be said for Mary Toddy Lincoln and Eleanor Roosevelt. Similar case can be made for Jackie Kennedy and Nancy Reagan, for Hillary Clinton and Michelle Obama. And others.
In one sense, you are right - it IS overblown! But that's just how it is, or a least has been.
Melania has been the most beautiful and elegant First Lady since Jackie Kennedy though, no doubt about that
Jackie wowed the American people with her televised tour of the White House.
AND knocked the socks off the crown head of Europe, in competition with Eva Peron.
Melania? Not so much.
Jackie also had to tolerate her husband having at least one new woman a day, in the White House, and taking baths with them, where he would ask his Secret Service detail to help him: by forcing them to fellate him underwater, making them gag, thus intensifying his orgasms.
I really wouldn't hold up JFK's White House as any kind of paragon. More stylish than Trump, certainly.
Any excuse for a re-telling of the old Chairman Mao joke. "Chairman Mao, what would have been the impact if President Brezhnev had been assassinated instead of President Kennedy?" "I don't think Mr Onnassis would have married Mrs Brezhnev".
Wasn't someone on earlier saying these pics were probably not even current and possibly staged (by the EU and ScotGov funded ‘trade association' no doubt)?
I do wish people would do a little bit of research before they repeat bollocks like this.
Today there were 418 boxes from 3 vessels landed. (Not the 220 claimed in the tweet)
But guess what.
Yesterday there were 4333 boxes landed from 19 vessels. Last Monday there were 6370 boxes landed from 20 vessels
Yes I am sure Brexit is having an effect but this sort of cherry picking of numbers to try and con people - and the fact so many on here are stupid enough to fall for it - just shows how desperate some people are for Brexit to fail.
You can look at all the numbers on the Peterhead port authority site. I reckon looking at the numbers on there and comparing to last year that landings are down by about 40%. This is bad. But the idea it has completely collapsed is just garbage.
It's worth bearing in mind few were landed today because many were on a protest in London yesterday.
Weren't they mostly shellfish operations? The BBC interviewed someone from the Dartmouth Crab Company, I assume Peterhead isn't part of their business plan.
No no, its entirely a Scottish fishing issue that has been fabricated by the SNP. Apparently.
Shush, no one is supposed to get wind of this cunning plan!
IT was the SNP's plan in 2014 for Scotland to leave the UK and the EU simultaneously, on a YES vote. Sturgeon never saw a problem with THAT.
'We must not examine our various winning manifestos that give every sign of producing a clusterfuck and being deeply unpopular, let us instead examine a losing manifesto of more than six years ago.'
There ya go. You can't deny it. Last time around, indyref1, the SNP - including Sturgeon - eagerly wanted Scotland to leave the EU and the UK, at the same time, so all these problems would have been even WORSE
The SNP are a bunch of opportunistic, lying hypocrites. I guess that's not news?
Israel’s coronavirus czar has warned that the first dose of the Pfizer vaccine offers less protection than expected, as he blamed the country’s surge in Covid cases partly on the new British variant.
Nachman Ash said many Israelis had caught Covid in between their first and second doses of the Pfizer vaccine, suggesting that the first jab is “less effective than we thought,” according to Army Radio. ...
We know immunity builds up slowly after the first vaccination - Pfizer claims 52% immunity by Day 12 - the JCVI puts it somewhat higher. Pfizer than state with a second vaccination immunity reaches 95% seven days after and there's no evidence contradicting that from Israel.
I continue to believe the British Government has made a mistake not prioritising the 21-day second vaccination for the most vulnerable and instead preferring to provide a first vaccination for a larger number of people.
Talk is cheap.
It would be straightforward to do a calculation with some model assumptions to show us.
(The calculation making the opposite argument was posted a few threads back).
Wasn't someone on earlier saying these pics were probably not even current and possibly staged (by the EU and ScotGov funded ‘trade association' no doubt)?
Its the apocalypsofuck. These industries are going to collapse. Not because of a referendum asking if we should leave the EU. Because of political decisions to destroy British trade to appease morons.
So you support posting false claims to support your case. Says a lot about your honesty and integrity.
I'll take your comments on my integrity with the level of respect they deserve.
40% down on average. With days where there's almost nothing. Is not an industry that is sustainable. Never mind one that was supposed to have been resurrected by Brexit.
To be fair you rage against Brexit everyday and are hardly a neutral observer
I would suggest you need to calm down, and see how this pans out over the next few months
Fishing has always been an erratic industry and I think there may be some very anti Brexit propaganda going on, when in truth I doubt it is really registering with most as they fight covid
I have read the Irish and others are furious about the way their fishing has been compromised and I expect to see matters improve in the coming months
I think he has rather good reasons not to be a neutral observer.
As do others who simply refuse to accept brexit
I believe it is called BDS
You do know he voted for Brexit, as he's pointed out he wouldn't have voted for this shit show if he knew this is what the reality is.
So actually he's a better barometer on Brexit than you.
We are less than 3 weeks into this process and those who cannot accept brexit or the deal are jumping onto every perceived downside.
I will respond to brexit at the next election when by then it should be clear just how successful it has been, or of course not
I think you may have overbought in to your own nonsense about "BDS" here. There's plenty who weren't that fussed one way or the other as between continued EU membership and a sensible EEA sort of arrangement, who now think that the evidence is growing that the version of brexit we have ended up with is a disaster. You personally can delay your response till the next election, or run the rather perplexing argument that it doesn't really matter because people are more focused on covid (which I bet the fishermen aren't) but you can't sit and complain about other people assessing events as they actually happen. Because that's how most people process events.
I have no objection to constructive criticism and there can be no doubt there are real issues but 3 weeks into brexit it is far too early to attack every issue as if it is armageddon, especially with HMG fighting covid
The drunk driver's fallacy - Why aren't you out catching rapists and burglars, offisher? We can deal with more than one thing at a time.
With respect I do not think we are going to agree on this
I've read that Melania Trump hasn't followed the tradition of previous First ladies by offering Jill Biden tea and a tour of the White House.
That just sounds mean-spirited and so typical of the Trump brand.
I wouldn't accept without a FFP3 mask and airtight goggles given how covid-happy the Trumps are - and that rather obviates the tea bit.
No-one voted for Melania Trump and no-one voted for Jill Biden. The whole First Lady thing is overblown.
Not really, certainly NOT in American history. Because the President is NOT just head of government, but also head of state. Thus from 1789 through 2021, the wife of the President has the same (or very similar) social and cultural status as Prince Philip.
When I say social do NOT mean upper-crust society of the hoity-toity kind, even in half-baked colonial fashion. Instead, the expectations of the mass of American people, most especially the majority of American woman.
My own mother, a child of the Great Depression who did not outlive the Reagan administration, was definitely a Democrat but not very politically-minded. She did, however, take an interest in the personalities and activities of all the First Ladies starting from when she was a girl and Eleanor Roosevelt was FLOTUS.
The lens through which she viewed and judged First Ladies was NOT political, nor partisan. > Her favorite was Pat Nixon, whom she admired for being a loyal wife, good mother, well-spoken and classy.
>Her least favorite was Jacqueline Kennedy, despite (or perhaps because) fact that she was enthusiastic Irish Catholic Democratic JFK supporter; in addition to wee touch of jealousy think she thought Jackie was too much of an elitist for her taste.
That was then. BUT even today, the FLOTUS still matters. The personalities, activities, problems and achievements of the First Ladies have been the stuff of our history and politics since Martha Washington, and always will.
BTW my own personal favorite First Lady is Dolley Madison. The extrovert Philadelphia widow & bombshell who turned White House entertaining into a major political asset for her way-more introverted hubby James Madison. His forte was writing the Constitution and creating the foundation for government; hers was lubricating the workings of that government with rum punch and a ready smile.
Dolley also, as every American schoolchild used to know, before the British were able to burn the White House during the War of 1812 (aka Mr Madison's War) she ordered the Gilbert Stuart painting of George Washington taken down and removed to safety. By the White House slaves. Nevertheless, she did it, and we'll never forget it.
Certainly impact of Mrs. Madison on her times AND subsequent generations was NOT overblown. Same can be said for Mary Toddy Lincoln and Eleanor Roosevelt. Similar case can be made for Jackie Kennedy and Nancy Reagan, for Hillary Clinton and Michelle Obama. And others.
In one sense, you are right - it IS overblown! But that's just how it is, or a least has been.
Melania has been the most beautiful and elegant First Lady since Jackie Kennedy though, no doubt about that
What has her views on the Christmas decorations got to do with it? Visually she has been the most beautiful First Lady since Jackie Kennedy, no question
"Should've gone to Specsavers!"
We should not be so judgmental over the fetishes of others.
Wasn't someone on earlier saying these pics were probably not even current and possibly staged (by the EU and ScotGov funded ‘trade association' no doubt)?
I do wish people would do a little bit of research before they repeat bollocks like this.
Today there were 418 boxes from 3 vessels landed. (Not the 220 claimed in the tweet)
But guess what.
Yesterday there were 4333 boxes landed from 19 vessels. Last Monday there were 6370 boxes landed from 20 vessels
Yes I am sure Brexit is having an effect but this sort of cherry picking of numbers to try and con people - and the fact so many on here are stupid enough to fall for it - just shows how desperate some people are for Brexit to fail.
You can look at all the numbers on the Peterhead port authority site. I reckon looking at the numbers on there and comparing to last year that landings are down by about 40%. This is bad. But the idea it has completely collapsed is just garbage.
It's worth bearing in mind few were landed today because many were on a protest in London yesterday.
Weren't they mostly shellfish operations? The BBC interviewed someone from the Dartmouth Crab Company, I assume Peterhead isn't part of their business plan.
No no, its entirely a Scottish fishing issue that has been fabricated by the SNP. Apparently.
Shush, no one is supposed to get wind of this cunning plan!
IT was the SNP's plan in 2014 for Scotland to leave the UK and the EU simultaneously, on a YES vote. Sturgeon never saw a problem with THAT.
Well, she denied it would happen at all and EU membership would be grandfathered.
I think she *hoped* that that could be negotiated simultaneously whilst Scotland negotiated to leave the UK, so there was no gap, and she'd ascend automatically to the EU as she left the UK at the end of a transition period.
However, there was no evidence for that other than wishful thinking.
It wasn't just wishful thinking, it was explicitly denied by the EU. And Spain alone would have vetoed, because Catalunya.
The SNP position was a massive lie, in other words.
Also, any legal analysis - for about a minute- reveals why this "grandfathering" could not have happened. Scottish accession as a new state would require a new EU Treaty, a new division of MEPs. new commissioners, and so on and so forth.
As we have seen, the EU is painfully legalistic and bureaucratic, that's how it works (and, arguably, stays together, the red tape smothers democracy, deliberately). Scotland in 2014 would have had to quit the EU on a Yes vote, and would have been obliged to re-apply for membership.
Sturgeon is too clever not to know this. She chooses to forget. She's a politician.
Israel’s coronavirus czar has warned that the first dose of the Pfizer vaccine offers less protection than expected, as he blamed the country’s surge in Covid cases partly on the new British variant.
Nachman Ash said many Israelis had caught Covid in between their first and second doses of the Pfizer vaccine, suggesting that the first jab is “less effective than we thought,” according to Army Radio. ...
We know immunity builds up slowly after the first vaccination - Pfizer claims 52% immunity by Day 12 - the JCVI puts it somewhat higher. Pfizer than state with a second vaccination immunity reaches 95% seven days after and there's no evidence contradicting that from Israel.
I continue to believe the British Government has made a mistake not prioritising the 21-day second vaccination for the most vulnerable and instead preferring to provide a first vaccination for a larger number of people.
Because of the early fast rollout, the UK actually has nearly as many people who have had both jabs as Israel -
He was the best President of my lifetime, won the Gulf War with an international coalition, ended the Cold War on his watch, cut the deficit, agreed climate targets at the Rio Summit, took action for the disabled.
Yet, despite the assistance of the Conservative Party, he still managed to lose to Bill Clinton in 1992.
Like Major and the Tories in 1997, the GOP in 1992 had simply been in power too long and Clinton like Blair made few major changes to what the administration had been doing before.
Generally however now Bush Snr and Major are looked back on by historians and the public as statesmen who left a good legacy.
Whereas Johnson will be looked back on as the man who destroyed the Union.
The DUP have belatedly realised why backing Brexit was the greatest strategic blunder since Emperor Palpatine allowed the Rebel Alliance to know the location of the Second Death Star.
Germany will now extend #covid closure of schools, shops, restaurants, bars and gyms till mid Feb. Medical grade masks must now be worn in shops and on public transport /1
Announcing the measures after nearly eight hours of talks with regional leaders, Angela Merkel said she wanted to avoid an explosion in case numbers caused by mutations like those seen recently in the U.K. and South Africa /2
Biden will hopefully be the most boring president since George HW Bush, which is arguably just what the US needs.
HW had a number of features - boring wasn't one of them. Understated, maybe.
This was the guy who built a military coalition that included the Arabs and the Israelis - fighting on the same side.
And used rock music to get Noriega into prison.
And vomited copiously over the Japanese PM.
And pardoning the Iran Contra criminals.
He was the best President of my lifetime, won the Gulf War with an international coalition, ended the Cold War on his watch, cut the deficit, agreed climate targets at the Rio Summmit, took action for the disabled.
Yes, I agree with most of that. Economics wasn't particularly his strong point, but he was very good at diplomacy.
Wasn't someone on earlier saying these pics were probably not even current and possibly staged (by the EU and ScotGov funded ‘trade association' no doubt)?
I do wish people would do a little bit of research before they repeat bollocks like this.
Today there were 418 boxes from 3 vessels landed. (Not the 220 claimed in the tweet)
But guess what.
Yesterday there were 4333 boxes landed from 19 vessels. Last Monday there were 6370 boxes landed from 20 vessels
Yes I am sure Brexit is having an effect but this sort of cherry picking of numbers to try and con people - and the fact so many on here are stupid enough to fall for it - just shows how desperate some people are for Brexit to fail.
You can look at all the numbers on the Peterhead port authority site. I reckon looking at the numbers on there and comparing to last year that landings are down by about 40%. This is bad. But the idea it has completely collapsed is just garbage.
It's worth bearing in mind few were landed today because many were on a protest in London yesterday.
Weren't they mostly shellfish operations? The BBC interviewed someone from the Dartmouth Crab Company, I assume Peterhead isn't part of their business plan.
No no, its entirely a Scottish fishing issue that has been fabricated by the SNP. Apparently.
Shush, no one is supposed to get wind of this cunning plan!
IT was the SNP's plan in 2014 for Scotland to leave the UK and the EU simultaneously, on a YES vote. Sturgeon never saw a problem with THAT.
'We must not examine our various winning manifestos that give every sign of producing a clusterfuck and being deeply unpopular, let us instead examine a losing manifesto of more than six years ago.'
There ya go. You can't deny it. Last time around, indyref1, the SNP - including Sturgeon - eagerly wanted Scotland to leave the EU and the UK, at the same time, so all these problems would have been even WORSE
The SNP are a bunch of opportunistic, lying hypocrites. I guess that's not news?
Gran Reserva o'clock!
What do you make of the Sillars-ite wing of the party, that is very anti-EU? Sillars is now arguing for a delay on Indyref 2, ostensibly because of Covid etc., but it's pretty obvious it's because he's not on board with the bouncing back into the EU.
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Hmmm... Total boxes landed
09/01/2020 - 2184
07/02/2020 - 6019
03/03/2020 - 3100
03/04/2020 - 778
08/05/2020 - 1748
05/06/2020 - 5917
03/07/2020 - 6622
07/08/2020 - 5951
04/09/2020 - 5156
02/10/2020 - 5581
06/11/2020 - 5386
04/12/2020 - 6517
08/01/2021 - 3955
Seems to vary wildly.....
China respects power. And (CP)TPP was designed to create an Asian power bloc to counterbalance China. It was to be a free trade area that set standards for intellectual property protection that people would want to be in, rather than choosing the embrace of China.
(CP)TPP with the US, and with the UK, would have been a fearsome thing.
Unfortunately, the US pulling out of it has done nothing to make their trade deficit better (2020 will be the worst current account deficit since George W Bush was President) while failing (so far) to pull countries out of China's orbit.
If we were to join, and the US were to join, it would hopefully act as a counterweight to China.
But I'm not confident.
40% down on average. With days where there's almost nothing. Is not an industry that is sustainable. Never mind one that was supposed to have been resurrected by Brexit.
Of course may not want to reply in case he pardons you for something else.
So their Boss thinks its a disaster. You and others on here think its a success. I wonder who knows more about it...
Again, you may disagree, but the point was clearly something to do with your own defined approach of having both. There was just a different view of what constitutes elegance. Behaviour can also be elegant.
As I say, looking at the data so far this year I would say the numbers of boxes are down around 40% compared to last year. But even that might not be representative overall. It could be more or less than that and there is no way to judge it except to say the problems at Dover etc must be having some effect.
So as long as you are attractive in appearance you can still be elegant regardless of behaviour
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/elegance
In any case Jackie Kennedy was very fussy about White House decor and decorations too.
Why didn't you just say beautiful if you are also defining elegance solely by physical beauty?
This is the strangest example of you digging your heels in that I have ever seen.
https://www.fwi.co.uk/news/brexit-serious-loss-in-meat-export-trade
I would suggest you need to calm down, and see how this pans out over the next few months
Fishing has always been an erratic industry and I think there may be some very anti Brexit propaganda going on, when in truth I doubt it is really registering with most as they fight covid
I have read the Irish and others are furious about the way their fishing has been compromised and I expect to see matters improve in the coming months
If Brexiteers are happy to accept that landings are down by 40% due to Brexit and the fishing sector just has to suck it up, cool. However those who say it's a good deal that the fishermen just don't understand, that is indeed a leaking bin bag of 2 week old garbage.
I decided to google information on the new film starring Vin Diesel.
Without thinking I decided to google 'XXX movie'.
As you can imagine the search results were 'interesting'.
I believe it is called BDS
So actually he's a better barometer on Brexit than you.
https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Hotel_Review-g499538-d295013-Reviews-The_Black_Cock_Inn-Broughton_in_Furness_Duddon_Valley_Lake_District_Cumbria_England.html
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-55706114
I will respond to brexit at the next election when by then it should be clear just how successful it has been, or of course not
Israel’s coronavirus czar has warned that the first dose of the Pfizer vaccine offers less protection than expected, as he blamed the country’s surge in Covid cases partly on the new British variant.
Nachman Ash said many Israelis had caught Covid in between their first and second doses of the Pfizer vaccine, suggesting that the first jab is “less effective than we thought,” according to Army Radio. ...
What chutzpah! What inspiration!
https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1351630258114502656?s=20
I really wouldn't hold up JFK's White House as any kind of paragon. More stylish than Trump, certainly.
They ALL need to be fed to tigers. Not just Carole Baskin's 2nd husband
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCgz9915wHw
https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40204241.html
https://twitter.com/AmichaiStein1/status/1351619760069423104
Hillary Clinton shared most of that with them (though Bill was never as rich as JFK or Trump) but was never as beautiful as them though probably more intelligent.
I continue to believe the British Government has made a mistake not prioritising the 21-day second vaccination for the most vulnerable and instead preferring to provide a first vaccination for a larger number of people.
Another small datum confirming the Tories have no taste hypothesis.
I think she *hoped* that that could be negotiated simultaneously whilst Scotland negotiated to leave the UK, so there was no gap, and she'd ascend automatically to the EU as she left the UK at the end of a transition period.
However, there was no evidence for that other than wishful thinking.
Looking at photos of her was one of vanishingly rare upsides of the Trump era.
Also, she brought us this photo, possibly the creepiest, most unsettling in the history of Franco-American relations. Presidential Wifeswap: a reality TV show
https://www.thelocal.fr/20170714/in-images-donald-trump-given-red-carpet-treatment-in-paris
#Lucy&thefootball
The SNP are a bunch of opportunistic, lying hypocrites. I guess that's not news?
Generally however now Bush Snr and Major are looked back on by historians and the public as statesmen who left a good legacy.
Though there are rumours Macron's tastes are not really towards ladies anyway
"Chairman Mao, what would have been the impact if President Brezhnev had been assassinated instead of President Kennedy?"
"I don't think Mr Onnassis would have married Mrs Brezhnev".
GHWB - total anarchist, really....
It would be straightforward to do a calculation with some model assumptions to show us.
(The calculation making the opposite argument was posted a few threads back).
The SNP position was a massive lie, in other words.
Also, any legal analysis - for about a minute- reveals why this "grandfathering" could not have happened. Scottish accession as a new state would require a new EU Treaty, a new division of MEPs. new commissioners, and so on and so forth.
As we have seen, the EU is painfully legalistic and bureaucratic, that's how it works (and, arguably, stays together, the red tape smothers democracy, deliberately). Scotland in 2014 would have had to quit the EU on a Yes vote, and would have been obliged to re-apply for membership.
Sturgeon is too clever not to know this. She chooses to forget. She's a politician.
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/people-fully-vaccinated-covid?tab=chart&stackMode=absolute&time=latest®ion=World
Which would be enough, I think, for a study here.
Mike Pence has told Trump he is not going to his do tomorrow but will be at the inauguration
I wish Joe Biden all the best and hope the inauguration goes safely
Senior DUP MP Gavin Robinson warns unionism to prepare for border poll
https://www.irishnews.com/news/northernirelandnews/2021/01/18/news/gavin-robinson-echoes-dup-namesake-s-call-for-unionism-to-get-ready-for-a-border-poll-2189559/
The DUP have belatedly realised why backing Brexit was the greatest strategic blunder since Emperor Palpatine allowed the Rebel Alliance to know the location of the Second Death Star.
Announcing the measures after nearly eight hours of talks with regional leaders, Angela Merkel said she wanted to avoid an explosion in case numbers caused by mutations like those seen recently in the U.K. and South Africa /2