Very entertaining piece of writing Cyclefree, thank you.
There's a depressing lack of moral standards and decency all round these days. I hope we can claw it back.
Unlikely, our next monarch and supreme governor of the Church of England is a disgusting fornicator and adulterer.
Does anyone mind much about that stuff these days, other than the Justin bloke who likes calling children bastards?
He’s only exercised about Tories getting frisky. When I pointed out Johnson and Corbyn actually had pretty similar sexual histories he came out with a load of blether about how that didn’t matter.
That’s because he’s a Puritan and he has a nasty suspicion that the Tories might actually *enjoy* it
For the record, it's LibDems who don't actually enjoy it. They only do it, because they feel that if it's taboo, then they ought to be doing it.
The key is not Labour going into government with the Tories, the key is getting a Unionist majority next year so even if Sturgeon stays First Minister she has no mandate for indyref2 and Labour will not be able to gain the seats to do that in Glasgow and the Central Belt without Tory tactical votes
Does that mean that if they do get a majority, they will have a mandate for indyref2?
And, as ALKWAYS HYUFD CONVENIENTLY FORGETS, and he is not so stupid as to do so involuntarily, REMEMBER THE SCOTTISH GREENS (I am sure you do, but others may not realise).
A Unionist majority combines the Tories, Scottish Labour, the LDs and Galloway's Alliance for Unity, it excludes the Greens
Lol, an English Tory Unionist counting George Galloway's Alliance for Unity, a 'party' not even registered with the Electoral Commission, as on their side, is a metaphor for something, I'm just not sure what.
I don't see it as significant. It seems more certain than ever that Johnson will self destruct before the next election. All Labour have to do is remain sane keep Starmer fit and let Corbyn disappear from voters memory. Oh and put a few people with personality like Jess Phillips into the Shadow Cabinet
There is nothing certain in politics right now
Johnson has become so similar in his disregard for rules and norms to Trump that we can be almost certain that he will meet a similar fate. Voters will come out in unprecedented numbers to see him off. Starmer like Biden just has to look like a decent human being which I think he is
OMG - make him stop for his own sake! How embarrassing for him.
Very entertaining piece of writing Cyclefree, thank you.
There's a depressing lack of moral standards and decency all round these days. I hope we can claw it back.
Unlikely, our next monarch and supreme governor of the Church of England is a disgusting fornicator and adulterer.
Does anyone mind much about that stuff these days, other than the Justin bloke who likes calling children bastards?
He’s only exercised about Tories getting frisky. When I pointed out Johnson and Corbyn actually had pretty similar sexual histories he came out with a load of blether about how that didn’t matter.
I know Corbyn is on his third wife, but weren't they consecutive, rather than similtaneous relationships like shagger?
For all those who are still waiting on Betfair to settle Georgia , I bet £10 at 11/10 with Skybet on Dems winning Georgia and got paid a couple of days ago - immediately put it on Mansfield/Colchester draw at 5/2 then with the winnings from that backed spurs against City today at 3/1 - now sitting on just north of £300 )) Sorry !
My uncle, 76 years old, cancer survivor.. slightly overweight... has got Covid. Had a positive test 12 days ago, and says he feels like he has a cold, but in any other year he would have gone to work no problem
The wide range of how this effects people is quite amazing.
Do we have a convincing explanation yet? Or any speculative ones?
The speculative theory that my father and his former colleagues say one of the reasons this wave doesn't seem as deadly/strong as the first one is down to people wearing masks, engaging in social distancing, washing their hands regularly, and people doing their best to avoid it.
That's made the transmission less strong.
I drove through Southwark today. It was heaving. No distancing and probably 30% masks at most
Generally in my limited circulation area I see people wearing masks indoors, but not especially if "distanced" in the open air. That makes sense to me.
We have a couple of refuges in our area. The residents are usually just transient and do stand out as "other". The other day, in the entrance to a local coffee house now just a take-a-way, I asked one of them why he didn't have the mask over his nose. He replied that he didn't believe it and so that made it OK.
For all those who are still waiting on Betfair to settle Georgia , I bet £10 at 11/10 with Skybet on Dems winning Georgia and got paid a couple of days ago - immediately put it on Mansfield/Colchester draw at 5/2 then with the winnings from that backed spurs against City today at 3/1 - now sitting on just north of £300 )) Sorry !
To be frank when you compare with most of the other polls it is more probable that Opinium's higher Labour leads before were probably outliers. Nothing much has really changed despite alll the froth and outrage of various kinds we see on nere and elsewhere daily.
You need to start looking for a new leader for 2029.
Perhaps Chuka will defect back, I am sure he fancies being the Blair to Starmer's Kinnock, the Macron to Starmer's Hollande, the Obama to Starmer's Kerry and Labour are more likely to win Cities of London and Westminster than the LDs on current polling
Fifteen years ago the twenty most deprived areas in the U.K. were in Scotland.... Now all twenty are in the north of England. That’s what 13 years of a pro Scotland SNP government gets us!
Shows people are generally had enough of being told what to do by people with no common sense though. Some people on here even suggesting people wear masks outside
You need to start looking for a new leader for 2029.
2021 Locals very important for SKS
I reckon unless there are significant gains there will be a challenge
Mind you by then Richi will be hitting the many so i fully expect a good set of 2021 locals
Given Labour were 11% behind the Tories in the last county council elections in 2017 and are only 3% behind even on tonight's poll Starmer should see enough county council seat gains next year to hold on, especially as Khan will almost certainly be re elected as London Mayor too
I've said it before. The Tier system built incentives into the system to be sensible. People were watching the numbers, and taking precautions.
Post lockdown the incentives have gone. People are doing what they can get away with. Which is a lot. They can't do as much because of various things being closed by law. But what they can do they are doing more.
You need to start looking for a new leader for 2029.
2021 Locals very important for SKS
I reckon unless there are significant gains there will be a challenge
Mind you by then Richi will be hitting the many so i fully expect a good set of 2021 locals
I suspect LAB will do well in local elections next year but as we both know mid term doesn't mean much.
I think Rishi may wait until 2022 for tax increases but that is a bit close to the election. So he may go for easier targets next year eg Corp Tax, CGT
Fifteen years ago the twenty most deprived areas in the U.K. were in Scotland.... Now all twenty are in the north of England. That’s what 13 years of a pro Scotland SNP government gets us!
Looks like the English taxpayer has been even more generous than normal in subsidising Scotland. You can say thank you now.
You need to start looking for a new leader for 2029.
Perhaps Chuka will defect back, I am sure he fancies being the Blair to Starmer's Kinnock, the Macron to Starmer's Hollande, the Obama to Starmer's Kerry and Labour are more likely to win Cities of London and Westminster than the LDs on current polling
You need to start looking for a new leader for 2029.
Perhaps Chuka will defect back, I am sure he fancies being the Blair to Starmer's Kinnock, the Macron to Starmer's Hollande, the Obama to Starmer's Kerry and Labour are more likely to win Cities of London and Westminster than the LDs on current polling
Did Macron defect back to the socialists?
He was the Finance Minister for Hollande in his Socialist Government certainly and used that to launch his 2017 presidential campaign
All MoE around likely situation that parties are tied.
Being tied is quite apt given there is nothing to distinguish them - both state control freaks ,outspending a already generous tax base by a gigantic margin and obsessed with PC rubbish nobody outside metro land gives a toss about
OT the top story on the BBC's news website is the curfew in California. Another American domestic story of the sort which infests the BBC especially at weekends when, I imagine, the place is run by bored interns watching and taking their lead from the American news channels.
I saw that and just thought it was my VPN. Is it even news outside California, let alone America, given everybody is doing it.
A good summation of this completely shitty administration. Your 'circling the wagons' quip was fully justified. She's clearly lost control of what goes into her mouth and what comes out of it.
We planned to go to Borough Market but it was completely heaving with people just standing around yammering
May i ask why you feel that you were allowed to go to Borough market presumably but plebs made it impossible?
Food shopping in the open air.
I never said anything about plebs, just that the area was heaving and we didn’t feel comfortable with that many people around. I don’t know why you bring class into it?
Very entertaining piece of writing Cyclefree, thank you.
There's a depressing lack of moral standards and decency all round these days. I hope we can claw it back.
Unlikely, our next monarch and supreme governor of the Church of England is a disgusting fornicator and adulterer.
Does anyone mind much about that stuff these days, other than the Justin bloke who likes calling children bastards?
I suspect there's a very small number in this country, let us call them social paleoconservatives, I think they are probably CoE attendees.
My expectation is that many more people, who aren't social paleoconservatives, are more bothered by the behaviour of Charles towards Princes Diana because they took her to their hearts.
That's true but I actually think people can still be quite tough on those who cheat or have affairs. And politicians love to use the family man image.
Boris Johnson is to give Britain a pre-Christmas boost by scrapping the 10pm curfew on pubs and restaurants.
The Mail on Sunday understands that the Prime Minister intends to extend opening hours until 11pm when the second national lockdown ends on December 2. While last orders will still be called at 10pm, people will get an extra hour to finish drinks and meals.
There is growing confidence that positive results from a trial of a vaccine being developed by Oxford University and the pharmaceutical firm AstraZeneca are 'imminent'. Vaccines produced by Pfizer and the US firm Moderna have already been shown to be almost 95 per cent effective.
One Government insider said: 'There is a possibility that one day soon we will wake up and Brexit will be done and we'll have the Oxford vaccine.'
Lockdown fatigue isn't the problem so much, more that just in general the lines between full lockdown 1.0, alternating relaxed-kind-of and restricted-kind-of periods in between, the tier system and all the regional variants thereof, the differences in the devolved administrations, and kind-of-full-lockdown 2.0, have all blurred together into one mess that is just "covid life".
Times says Dishy Rishi looking to raise capital gain tax and cut higher rate pensions tax relief. Not sure that will go down well nor is very sensible. But then Boris has tied himself in with promise to not raise VAT, NI or IC.
Boris Johnson is to give Britain a pre-Christmas boost by scrapping the 10pm curfew on pubs and restaurants.
The Mail on Sunday understands that the Prime Minister intends to extend opening hours until 11pm when the second national lockdown ends on December 2. While last orders will still be called at 10pm, people will get an extra hour to finish drinks and meals.
There is growing confidence that positive results from a trial of a vaccine being developed by Oxford University and the pharmaceutical firm AstraZeneca are 'imminent'. Vaccines produced by Pfizer and the US firm Moderna have already been shown to be almost 95 per cent effective.
One Government insider said: 'There is a possibility that one day soon we will wake up and Brexit will be done and we'll have the Oxford vaccine.'
Boris Johnson is to give Britain a pre-Christmas boost by scrapping the 10pm curfew on pubs and restaurants.
The Mail on Sunday understands that the Prime Minister intends to extend opening hours until 11pm when the second national lockdown ends on December 2. While last orders will still be called at 10pm, people will get an extra hour to finish drinks and meals.
There is growing confidence that positive results from a trial of a vaccine being developed by Oxford University and the pharmaceutical firm AstraZeneca are 'imminent'. Vaccines produced by Pfizer and the US firm Moderna have already been shown to be almost 95 per cent effective.
One Government insider said: 'There is a possibility that one day soon we will wake up and Brexit will be done and we'll have the Oxford vaccine.'
FORMULA One ace Lewis Hamilton will be awarded a knighthood in the New Year’s Honours list. The seven-time world champion, 35, is to be given the gong after his controversial tax affairs were deemed “all in order”.
Boris Johnson is to give Britain a pre-Christmas boost by scrapping the 10pm curfew on pubs and restaurants.
The Mail on Sunday understands that the Prime Minister intends to extend opening hours until 11pm when the second national lockdown ends on December 2. While last orders will still be called at 10pm, people will get an extra hour to finish drinks and meals.
There is growing confidence that positive results from a trial of a vaccine being developed by Oxford University and the pharmaceutical firm AstraZeneca are 'imminent'. Vaccines produced by Pfizer and the US firm Moderna have already been shown to be almost 95 per cent effective.
One Government insider said: 'There is a possibility that one day soon we will wake up and Brexit will be done and we'll have the Oxford vaccine.'
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https://twitter.com/jonswaine/status/1330257899843674113
Even I knew the rules better than him when he didn't realise he could send off Pickford for his assault on Van Dijk.
We have a couple of refuges in our area. The residents are usually just transient and do stand out as "other". The other day, in the entrance to a local coffee house now just a take-a-way, I asked one of them why he didn't have the mask over his nose. He replied that he didn't believe it and so that made it OK.
Could I be related to Candide?
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SKS Blinder
At what point does he cross the line into sedition?
I reckon unless there are significant gains there will be a challenge
Mind you by then Richi will be hitting the many so i fully expect a good set of 2021 locals
That said, I am on good odds on Rayner for next PM 😊
Post lockdown the incentives have gone. People are doing what they can get away with. Which is a lot. They can't do as much because of various things being closed by law. But what they can do they are doing more.
I think Rishi may wait until 2022 for tax increases but that is a bit close to the election. So he may go for easier targets next year eg Corp Tax, CGT
Poor Ed Davey 😊
- balance the budget!
- no new taxes!
- more spending on education!
The "Corbynites lost it" aint gonna wash
https://twitter.com/BBCHelena/status/1330266617012494339
No doubt the announcement will be accompanied by some new and equally ludicrous graphs.
The irritation is that you can’t access their payment website from London and there is a 2.5% charge for paying with a credit card!
We planned to go to Borough Market but it was completely heaving with people just standing around yammering
Correct me if I am wrong, but December 3rd is a week on Thursday?
I never said anything about plebs, just that the area was heaving and we didn’t feel comfortable with that many people around. I don’t know why you bring class into it?
Authoritarian hogwash, and absolutely intolerable. There is no way that sort of thing is enforceable, so it wont happen.
https://twitter.com/BestForBritain/status/1330269840955858945
The Mail on Sunday understands that the Prime Minister intends to extend opening hours until 11pm when the second national lockdown ends on December 2. While last orders will still be called at 10pm, people will get an extra hour to finish drinks and meals.
There is growing confidence that positive results from a trial of a vaccine being developed by Oxford University and the pharmaceutical firm AstraZeneca are 'imminent'. Vaccines produced by Pfizer and the US firm Moderna have already been shown to be almost 95 per cent effective.
One Government insider said: 'There is a possibility that one day soon we will wake up and Brexit will be done and we'll have the Oxford vaccine.'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8973731/Boris-kill-10pm-curfew-lockdown-end-December-2-new-three-tier-system.html
I am expecting England to be on Tier 2 minimum from 3 Dec. I will take that
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/13263639/lewis-hamilton-knighthood-new-years-honours/
Deemed in order the same way Starbucks is.
https://twitter.com/NuffieldTrust/status/1330278314729119744?s=19
Possibly attempting to run services normally mid pandemic is causing a few infections.