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Good things TSE isn't here...
Includes the two Republicans with Covid - Lee and Tillis.
If Lee and Tillis can't attend then a vote on Party lines would be 10-10. Would Graham (Republican Chairman) then have casting vote?
Even if he does, it all looks pretty precarious.
https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/about/members
A more promising approach might be to make the actual *Senate* lose its quorum by hiding the entire Senate minority caucus. The Senate needs 51 and the GOP has 53, so they need to lose 2 to the RBG's Great Revenge Supercluster, or maybe 3 if the Dems need to send somebody down there to make the Quorum Call. But some of them have reelection races, and it's harder to run for reelection if you're holed up in a hotel in Cancun on the run from US law enforcement.
If Collins and Murkowski really want to stop the nominee then if they + two with Covid would do it.
I doubt Collins and Murkowski care enough to go into hiding, OTOH I'm also not sure the ghost of RBG has finished laughing covid19 into the faces of GOP senators.
Add Trump's Campaign Manger Bill Stepien to the list of those with Covid.
Trump
Mrs Trump
Hicks
Conway
Stepien
Lee
Tillis
https://twitter.com/rtraister/status/1312219923603689475
Welcome to the Weekend at Bernies
He sent a tweet late Friday night, his first communication from the hospital, saying, "Going welI, I think! Thank you to all. LOVE!!!"
His upbeat attitude did not reflect the inherent severity of the situation. It remains extremely rare for a president to overnight in hospital, given the extensive medical facilities available at the White House.
Trump himself was said to be spooked after he announced he tested positive early Friday, and has become increasingly alarmed by his diagnosis as he developed symptoms like a fever overnight, according to a person familiar with his reaction.
Mike Pence may have tested negative but last Saturday he was seated amongst several people who have tested positive.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/02/trump-timeline-activities-425041
Is there a kind of How the Grinch Stole Christmas conversion in the pipeline?
It's nonsense about medical facilities in the White House. I doubt they are better than those in a well equipped private hospital in England, and every medical professional i have ever met agrees that if you are seriously ill you want to be in the biggest most badass NHS hospital you can find, not private.
Wonder what they do all say, since most, if not everyone, there should be reasonably fit.
However I suspect it's noteworthy that Trump apparently feels fit enough to be on Twitter.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_House_Medical_Unit
The Shat conspicuous by his absence.
https://twitter.com/Marina_Sirtis/status/1312208693585354758?s=20
https://www.conservativehome.com/thetorydiary/2020/10/our-cabinet-league-table-the-prime-minister-falls-into-negative-territory.html
This is just to let you know your book hijacked your account last night and posted a lot of random shit about Romney being the next POTUS. You might want to change your password.
I gave up.
1) What about reps from DC? Do they not vote, or vote as part of the Virginia delegation?
2) 1872 was a very unusual election for a number of reasons. First of all, the Democrats didn’t contest it, which I think is the only election since the party’s founding in the 1820s where they haven’t put forward a candidate of some description. However, when Greeley died a large number of his pledged electors voted for the man who would have been their candidate (I was wrong about this in my post yesterday) while Greeley’s own Liberal Republican electors voted for his vice presidential nominee.
Now let’s come to practicalities. If Trump dies, he is no longer a citizen of the US and not eligible to serve as President. Therefore, he cannot be a candidate in the electoral college. So, Republican electors with pledged votes would have to vote for Pence as the only other person on the ballot paper.
What would be interesting in that scenario is what would happen in the Vice Presidential election, because Pence could not be elected to both offices (the constitution says candidates for President and Vice President cannot be from the same state, which one candidate obviously would be)! Pence would presumably have to nominate someone to be put forward as Veep, and it couldn’t really be an unknown and probably shouldn’t be somebody who hasn’t been elected. So that is where Romney might come in as an elder statesman with name recognition factor.
Interesting speculation to come to one conclusion - for all Yanks love it, their constitution is a bit shit.
The prime reason is the sheer difficulty of amending the constitution, baked into the constitution, which means that even when problems become glaringly obvious to everyone, it’s very difficult to change the rules to prevent them happening again.
'Interesting speculation to come to one conclusion - for all Yanks love it, their constitution is a bit shit.'
To be fair, several black swans have arrived at once.
It was worth the full read. I took five minute breaks after every other paragraph. Perhaps you should try the same.
But it will never happen, because it’s never quite in the interests of both parties at once to do it and neither of them can control 2/3 of state legislatures all at once to ram it through.
https://twitter.com/StarTribune/status/1312203213374803969
https://twitter.com/alweaver22/status/1312143427186814977
Top quality contact tracing. They tried to keep the Hicks diagnosis super secret
Also, the same-state rule is only that if both candidates are from the same state, then Electors from that state cannot vote for them both. There's nothing to prevent Pence being elected to both offices, but Electors from Indiana could not vote for him for both offices (which wouldn't matter in the scenario you paint, as they wouldn't have done).
Mr. Divvie, maybe not.
Picard and other recent Star Trek series have often annoyed long term fans. I suspect it'll preaching to the converted.
1) Trump dies, Pence becomes president
2) Pence wants a VP confirmed so that he doesn't pass power to Pelosi if he dies of the rona
3) Dems don't really want Pelosi right before the election, but they'll take Romney as a compromise, Pence nominates him
4) Pence dies too, President Mittens
That doesn't get you there on the Betfair rules, but if Mittens is president already I think it's easy to do the next step of
5) GOP wins (or already won) the Electoral College, the Electoral College finds both people on the ticket are dead and elects the sitting GOP president
No masks, of course.
https://twitter.com/RebeccaBuck/status/1312222480073928704
Remember, outside of the "it's all a hoax" group, those on the sceptical side of implementing economically harmful restrictions don't generally deny that Covid spreads easily, nor indeed that it can't kill people. But what is questioned is that it is uniquely harmful such that the complete uplifting and overhaul of normal society is justified.
I think a court biased against you is at least twice as bad as a court biased for you is good, so if they're rational actors (I know, I know) they'd cooperate to fix the constitution.
Given the amount of travel in the last week, the number of events, the numbers of people involved, and the utter lack of Covid precautions along the way, contact tracing this one is going to be a nightmare.
A little further research on my first point. The 23rd amendment reads as follows:
The District constituting the seat of Government of the United States shall appoint in such manner as the Congress may direct:
A number of electors of President and Vice President equal to the whole number of Senators and Representatives in Congress to which the District would be entitled if it were a State, but in no event more than the least populous State; they shall be in addition to those appointed by the States, but they shall be considered, for the purposes of the election of President and Vice President, to be electors appointed by a State; and they shall meet in the District and perform such duties as provided by the twelfth article of amendment..
Now that’s very ambiguous. It could be argued that ‘to be electors appointed by a state’ means they should vote with a bloc from another state, i.e. Virginia. However. my interpretation of that is that DC for Presidential purposes counts as a separate state. So that would be one vote extra for Biden.
That however would certainly go to the Supreme Court.
It would benefit both sides in the long run, balance the court if there’s a Democratic administration next year that brings it in, and already has the support in principle of several of the justices themselves (including Roberts).
So I don’t think it’s quite as white as the average BLM protest in Bristol.
Though I suppose it is 2020.
Excellent article, David.
Here we go again - just like how it spread far and wide in last spring. Do they never learn?
That is Christie, isn’t it ?
https://twitter.com/colinmeloy/status/1312245908097040384
Is Dido running US track and tracing too?
Is Dido running US track and tracing too?
Forest Gump on GOP 2020
Another way might be to pick two at a time with a single vote, that way the minority and the majority can both get their guy so at worst you get a balance of partisan hacks, and hopefully they'll sometimes cut a deal and pick two non-hacks.
"This market will be settled according to the candidate that has the most projected Electoral College votes won at the 2020 presidential election. Any subsequent events such as a ‘faithless elector’ will have no effect on the settlement of this market."
Pence may actually become President, but Trump is the candidate.
Not that I have seen any form of Star Trek since the original series finished in the Seventies!
Surely this cannot be settled as Trump even though he had died?
If your interpretation is the case the market in play now would not have any other possible outcomes other than Biden and Trump.
Right at the bottom their rules it says: " If any candidate withdraws for any reason, including death, all bets on the market will stand and be settled as per the defined rules" Im not sure how helpful or not this sentence is.
Any other views on this?
I don’t think you can say that any of the Democrats’ recent picks have been party hacks - and to be fair to her, even Barrett is a lawyer of some distinction, however extreme some of her views.
You remove the incentive to appoint very young judges in the hope that they stick around for decades; the need for partisans is not as desperate if the court isn’t set in stone.
And in an incoming administration proposed this as an alternative to court packing, it would represent a de-escalation of the battle to control the court.
The 23rd Amendment is about DC being represented in the Electoral College. The electors in the College vote as individuals. There is no vote by state delegation.
If the Electoral College fails to elect a President, it goes to the House of Representatives. That is where there is a vote by state delegation. DC is unrepresented in the House so doesn't have any say. It doesn't get a vote in its own right, nor does it get a vote as part of a state delegation.
Are Starship Troopers out for Trump?
The same thing would happen anywhere if people think they're going to be imprisoned for months, with an out-of-control plague raging around them, and they've somewhere else - anywhere else- plausible to go.
The only way you stop an exodus like this is to seal all the routes out of the city and have blokes with guns turn people back.