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Lockdown: Trying to work out what the public will stand for and what it won’t – politicalbetting.com
Lockdown: Trying to work out what the public will stand for and what it won’t – politicalbetting.com
James Frayne, boss of Public First which did polling for No10, tells @TimesRadio "The public are obsessed by seeing their families… won't forgive a government which puts the structure of the country ahead of ordinary people's lives"They are dicing with political death here"
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But not a series of regional lockdowns that happen to cover 90% of the country presumably.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-54351724
Hope it stays that way.
- a substantial minority (but not a majority, yet) wish to see restrictions lifted.
- this minority will change their views in a heatbeat if the death toll spikes again
- so, if the government loosens, and deaths and infections stay muted, it will be OK
- but if they spike, it is the government who will be blamed
If you are in, say, the events business, you may have lost everything. If you are over 67 tripled locked up with your pension, the disruption may have been very light indeed.
Any government that cancels Christmas is going to be terribly, terribly unpopular. Rule of 6 will be tolerated, I think, no social interactions at all will lead to uproar.
It hasn't led to uproar. But then it isn't being enforced. Or observed.
https://twitter.com/PpollingNumbers/status/1311317560361656320
Probably a good poll for Biden in relation to Maine-2 (Which Trump holds)
We had this exact conversation yesterday while trying to work out whether a friend was included or excluded in the rules and we couldn't work out which part whether the village was in County Durham (under restrictions) or Darlington (not under restrictions).
You don't mean to suggest that she'll use this for further grievance mongering rather than another (eh? - ed.) demonstration of Scotland's superior attitude to them?
Those are most insulated from the effects are those most likely to be opposed to Covid interventions. The wealthy right wing minority referred to in the tweet.
If so that is remarkable. Clearly happy with Ministers having these powers, if I was them I'd be voting against and telling the Government to come back with a new Bill that gave Parliament more oversight of regulations.
If one were really serious about it, then Mainland of Orkney would be the best bet as a compromise between access and the other factors - but then the Coalition is long over and trolling the LDs a mainstream aim of the Tories.
Well done Hancock.
People remain concerned; particularly by the idea that the pain of lockdown might all be for nothing if another spike comes. There's real anxiety that things are going to get worse and a desire to conform to the rules and keep people safe (generally).
BUT people don't believe that the interactions that bring them risk are the interactions with their family. In all crises we prefer to cleave to our own group and exaggerate the fear of the other. People believe they will catch Covid from reckless strangers not careful friends.
And this is exacerbated by the hopeless inconsistency from the government who allow students to go back to Uni (and amazingly they go out and get drunk and snog each other) but won't allow grandparents to see their grandchildren.
Bryant has always been a terrible MP.
But utterly illogical with even a moment's thought.
I am shocked, absolutely shocked at your suggestion (!)
Right now this is more than slightly irritating but come Christmas it will be unacceptable. I also usually have my brother and his daughter and my sister and her kids for Christmas dinner. We are, as a family, pretty law abiding folk but that will test us to the limits. My brother is terminally ill. I am not sure how much longer he has left. Its a serious hardship for us and especially for him that he cannot come around to us for a nice meal and some company on a regular basis. He found the last lockdown seriously hard.
Here it is. Can't believe it was 3 years old.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/dec/24/bute-scotland-syrian-refugees-asylum
In brief you are allowed to travel through them but you cannot stop other than for fuel
Also it comes in from 6.00pm tomorrow night, not tonight
Can visitors travel through lockdown counties to reach Gwynedd and Anglesey
https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/can-visitors-travel-through-lockdown-19020391#ICID=Android_DailyPostNewsApp_AppShare
Bonkers. But we aren't rational creatures.
The bigger issue is the 1 week lag everything has..
But why should Starmer join with the Brady Bunch to give Johnson the shields of Parliament and the Labour Party to hide behind, if Johnson is tardy with any future required lockdown.
Non-compliance is the only way this ends.
For me personally the family thing is central and I just long to see my children and their families."
Yet, it seems to me that if family and longing to see them is your issue, then surely Matt Chorley's post would be the more relevant?
Or are you saying that in spite of your personal desires, you think the country as a whole will tolerate being separated from their families?
My father spent the last weeks of his life alone due to lockdown. If I knew then what I knew now I would have been kicking down the care home door to see him.
The aim should be to do as much as possible of what is collectively and individually important to us, at a sensibly mitigated risk, while eliminating activities that are riskier or aren't important to us, so R is kept to 1
At the moment the most visible alternative in the media is from the Sweden-fantasists who say we can just ignore it, get on with our lives, and it will just magically go away. Most people look at the US and Brazil and think, "no thanks".
What could change this would be an energetic and forensic opposition. If Labour were able to come up with a clear alternative, a convincing way to control the virus without so many general restrictions, then the mood would turn. Labour would be able to argue that the government only had to cancel Christmas because it had bungled testing, or quarantine, etc.
They'd need a clear list of actions the government were failing to take, that might plausibly control the virus while still allowing people to visit their family. But they don't have it.
So the public feel that there is no alternative.
https://twitter.com/MrHarryCole/status/1311326741361840129/photo/1
Though I would hesitate to say that for certain yet.
There are reasons to be hopeful though, but I would be a lot more confident if the positivity rate starts to go back down.
https://twitter.com/ProjectLincoln/status/1311329064695799810?s=20
The country is not best served by having weak opposition. They don't need to oppose what the government is doing but they should be trying to hold it to account and challenging it to bring measures before Parliament.
Jeremy Corbyn realised better than SKS what it means to be in opposition.
Corbyn voted against the govt and failed to bring it down because he didn't have the numbers.
SKS has the numbers but decides to support the govt where he could actually bring it down.
Since I am very isolated at present and interact with very, very few people I am fairly certain about my own state too.