Further analysis of the most recent polls* shows these national swings are not uniformly replicated in each of the UK’s nations and regions. In southern England, for instance, Labour is up by more than seven points – which, if replicated in a general election, would represent Labour’s best performance in the South since 1997.
Interesting, as there was something close to a consensus that reopening schools would not be very dangerous. Friends tell me that parents, kids and staff are all doing their best, but avoiding social contact is just not possible all the time.
More work to be done in the Red Wall but other seats are now in play
Interesting article. But again confusion about Red Wall. Red Wall = North. Doesn't seem to recognise much of it is actually in the Midlands. Or that the North is probably the most politically heterogeneous of all those broad regions. Midlands is just as important to Labour as the North.
LOL. It is what we speculated at the time. At issue was not whether Trump was a billionaire, as Bloomberg and others discussed, but the likelihood he paid no taxes at all. Trump himself has boasted of getting huge tax concessions on his developments. I'm not sure this is not a feature of US capitalism generally ... we will bring this team/factory/development to the Great State of Wazoo but only if the state coughs up millions in subsidies, otherwise we'll try the state next door.
Trump's personal taxes are uninteresting.
The juicy stuff is loan documents compared to tax submissions. How much did he value property A at when getting a loan vs how much was it valued at when paying taxes.
From a criminal POV, perhaps. But the headline figure will resonate.
You have to enjoy the funny side of this nightmare. The funny side tonight is @MaxPB extolling the libertarian virtues of Switzerland, a country still with National Service, where you can't use a washing machine on a Sunday, or cross the road except on a green pedestrian signal even if there is not a car in sight, and where the police may visit you if your washing is hung out untidily.
When my brother was living in Germany he got two police cars visiting when he started mowing his lawn on a Sunday.
When I grew up in Denmark a neighbour complained that our toilet flushed too noisily. But you get the odd fussy neighbour everywhere - when I lived in Haslemere, my neighbour complained if I answered the phone after 10.15 ("I could hear your voice!") - I eventually moved to get away from him. The Swiss rules were at least consistent and people lived with them without any complaints that I heard.
I said earlier in the year that this was the way we where heading. I was treated to the usual verbal abuse for my trouble. I take no pleasure in being right. The only saving grace is that they have not introduced the death penalty... yet!
I was assured that the 10pm closing had killed London.
It has, except for off licences.
Don’t they have to close at 10?
No. Shops can stay open as long as they like.
Which is surely a stupid miss by HMG.
No, the stupidity is the 10pm closing time. It's making me want to leave the country. I'm seriously thinking about it right now, my wife is also in the same boat. We're building a society that is happy to snitch on their fellow neighbour and cheer as thousands of businesses go to the wall and a million people are sent to the dole queue. For the first time I'm genuinely worried about the direction of the nation, what have people turned into?
I was assured that the 10pm closing had killed London.
It has, except for off licences.
Don’t they have to close at 10?
No. Shops can stay open as long as they like.
Which is surely a stupid miss by HMG.
No, the stupidity is the 10pm closing time. It's making me want to leave the country. I'm seriously thinking about it right now, my wife is also in the same boat. We're building a society that is happy to snitch on their fellow neighbour and cheer as thousands of businesses go to the wall and a million people are sent to the dole queue. For the first time I'm genuinely worried about the direction of the nation, what have people turned into?
Where would you go? Where's better?
Probably Switzerland (my wife is Swiss), maybe Ticino or Lugano. Despite having a law for absolutely everything Switzerland feels like a free society, the UK doesn't any more. It hasn't for a couple of decades and now we're seeing the results as people relish the idea of snitching and applaud restrictions on how we can live.
Italian speaking Switzerland is absolutely gorgeous. Almost perfect. Great landscape, great climate, great wine and food. And they are so multilingual everyone resorts to English, which helps
Problem is: it's also hideously expensive. If you're on a Swiss wage fair enough, if you're not you need to be a multi-millionaire to have a nice life
My wife is Swiss and I'm an investment manager...
Then go for it. I wish I could join you in Lugano. Gorgeous place
It’s the money laundering capital of Switzerland, amongst its other charms. 😏
You have to enjoy the funny side of this nightmare. The funny side tonight is @MaxPB extolling the libertarian virtues of Switzerland, a country still with National Service, where you can't use a washing machine on a Sunday, or cross the road except on a green pedestrian signal even if there is not a car in sight, and where the police may visit you if your washing is hung out untidily.
Isn't there a law about toilet flushing?
I believe that is more a building rule..
Switzerland - the country where moving your lawn on a Sunday can get you arrested. As can *not* possessing an actual, real assault rifle and ammunition.
I said earlier in the year that this was the way we where heading. I was treated to the usual verbal abuse for my trouble. I take no pleasure in being right. The only saving grace is that they have not introduced the death penalty... yet!
I was not suggesting that we have gone Nazi, and nor have we. Not sure what you mean by “this is the way we’re heading”.
Big movement to Biden on Betfair in last half hour. Now 1.78
That may be his tax returns. More likely the stream of unintelligible, borderline deranged non-sequiturs and incoherent gobbledygook that just passed for a Press Conference.
I said earlier in the year that this was the way we where heading. I was treated to the usual verbal abuse for my trouble. I take no pleasure in being right. The only saving grace is that they have not introduced the death penalty... yet!
I was not suggesting that we have gone Nazi, and nor have we. Not sure what you mean by “this is the way we’re heading”.
So, how long do you think it will be until the first trial of someone who was "snitched"?
Further analysis of the most recent polls* shows these national swings are not uniformly replicated in each of the UK’s nations and regions. In southern England, for instance, Labour is up by more than seven points – which, if replicated in a general election, would represent Labour’s best performance in the South since 1997.
Problem is there aren't many Con/Lab marginals in the south compared to the north and midlands.
Sadly Turkey and Russia bear equal responsibility for fucking up that region. The Armenian genocide and the attempted Assyrian genocide that was only prevented by British (or rather ANZAC) intervention was entirely down to the Turks and their dreams of a pan-Turanian empire.
Big movement to Biden on Betfair in last half hour. Now 1.78
That may be his tax returns. More likely the stream of unintelligible, borderline deranged non-sequiturs and incoherent gobbledygook that just passed for a Press Conference.
Bleary eyed and mumbling isn't a good look. If it was ever possible, I'd sat Trump was having a dark night of the soul.
As a Catholic, I'm so glad to see that's he embracing Rome. though.
Interesting, as there was something close to a consensus that reopening schools would not be very dangerous. Friends tell me that parents, kids and staff are all doing their best, but avoiding social contact is just not possible all the time.
So what should we do? Close schools again?
Was there really a consensus? There was a lot of scepticism, and not just from teachers' unions, about how social distancing would work in the classroom. Certainly there were discussions here about parents crowding round school gates to collect their children.
Where there has been confusion is between those who say it does not really matter, and might even be desirable as it will hasten herd immunity, if children and young adults contract the virus because it does not make them ill, and those who call for lockdown when students and pupils do just that.
LOL. It is what we speculated at the time. At issue was not whether Trump was a billionaire, as Bloomberg and others discussed, but the likelihood he paid no taxes at all. Trump himself has boasted of getting huge tax concessions on his developments. I'm not sure this is not a feature of US capitalism generally ... we will bring this team/factory/development to the Great State of Wazoo but only if the state coughs up millions in subsidies, otherwise we'll try the state next door.
Trump's personal taxes are uninteresting.
The juicy stuff is loan documents compared to tax submissions. How much did he value property A at when getting a loan vs how much was it valued at when paying taxes.
Wish folk would stop calling it a curfew. It is shutting the pubs at 10. A curfew is when you aren't allowed out. Usually enforced by armed patrols.
Not being able to visit other peoples houses is not lockdown either.
Indeed. We never had lockdown. My friend was trapped in Cyprus. They had to send a text to the Police to leave the house, with a reason, once a day. And wait up to an hour for permission. And be given a set route and time. That was a lockdown.
We had three weeks of that in Dubai. Only allowed one person from a household to leave once a day for food and medicine. We then had two months of a 10pm curfew, a proper curfew, everybody off the streets, enforced by the police.
Won't matter, he and the Republicans are closing and will probably win the States they need by fair means or foul. Whilst these street demos continue the Democrats are being squeezed little by little. The could win by 5 or 6 million votes but lose the College.
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It works for me... miles away from my northern depressed hell-hole
Maybe that's not a thing in the States.
Also strong overtones of tom lehrer, national brotherhood week.
More work to be done in the Red Wall but other seats are now in play
Destroying a million jobs for nothing.
So what should we do? Close schools again?
Not what I’d call whip smart.
Doesn't seem to recognise much of it is actually in the Midlands.
Or that the North is probably the most politically heterogeneous of all those broad regions.
Midlands is just as important to Labour as the North.
https://twitter.com/libbyjones715/status/1308989753291874314
https://twitter.com/libbyjones715/status/1308992549131087872
But the headline figure will resonate.
https://twitter.com/K_G_Andersen/status/1310337779000160256
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/March_Days
Belated happy burthday DavidL!
Switzerland - the country where moving your lawn on a Sunday can get you arrested. As can *not* possessing an actual, real assault rifle and ammunition.
Not sure what you mean by “this is the way we’re heading”.
More likely the stream of unintelligible, borderline deranged non-sequiturs and incoherent gobbledygook that just passed for a Press Conference.
And there is more to come.
As a Catholic, I'm so glad to see that's he embracing Rome. though.
Where there has been confusion is between those who say it does not really matter, and might even be desirable as it will hasten herd immunity, if children and young adults contract the virus because it does not make them ill, and those who call for lockdown when students and pupils do just that.
Whilst these street demos continue the Democrats are being squeezed little by little. The could win by 5 or 6 million votes but lose the College.