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One of the big concerns as we get closer to getting an effective Covid19 vaccine is that there will be a significant proportion of the population who refuse to take part. The influence of disgraced ex-doctor Andrew Wakefield still runs very deep and we’ve seen how significant public health campaigns like participation in the MMR vaccine by childrens have been seriously undermined.
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"And people say that like it's a bad thing."
Sets out very well the problems in estimating the numbers of those who have already been infected:
https://twitter.com/DiseaseEcology/status/1285696432478052355
The answer is 11:
John Quincy Adams
Nixon
Thomas Jefferson
James Madison
Harry S Truman
Hoover
John Adams
Reagan
Ford
George H. Bush
Carter.
Now you might point out with some justice that six of those have served since the war, while only three presidents since then (discounting living ones) have failed to make 80, one of whom was assassinated. At the same time, I don’t think on a purely statistical basis you can say Biden is more likely to serve two terms than die in office.
Moreover, let’s remember he doesn’t have to actually die for the Veep to take over. Given he is elderly and quite frail, he may be temporarily or permanently incapacitated and the Veep have to stand in. A Woodrow Wilson situation (albeit Thomas Marshall never actually knew the President was hors de combat) seems possible.
So it is going to be important that Biden’s choice at the very least seems a reliable person. They don’t want any Spiro Agnew ‘one heartbeat from the presidency’ style ads.
From what I heard yesterday the question remains whether the proposed vaccine will actually prevent infection or merely reduce the seriousness of the symptoms so it becomes non life threatening for the vast majority. In the latter case it seems likely that some very vulnerable people will still die with Covid in the same way they currently die with flu. This seems to me to be a likely scenario but not one that is going to stop us getting back to our lives. What we will need to do is ensure that governments don't impose another vast wave of bureaucratic controls on us making the operation of the economy difficult.
I do think it’s likely that Biden will only serve one term.
Given that planes are going to be quite miserable places until this disease does away, it wouldn't be a surprise to see domestic airlines insist on vaccines, in the same way as schools do.
It didn’t make much difference in 1988. I won’t go bail for the issue making no difference in 1992 when Bush had been diagnosed with Graves’ disease and thrown up all over the Japanese Prime Minister.
Andrew Wakefield had a disproportionately high following among unfulfilled middle-class suburban mothers. They lapped him up. Literally.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/andrew-wakefield-the-vaccine-scaremonger-whos-snared-supermodel-elle-macpherson-5tgzdth08
I have a close friend who was totally beguiled and besotted by him. She attended his talks along with thousands of other dewey-eyed and guilt-ridden mothers. She bought hook line and sinker into his nonsense, refusing to vaccinate her children.
He should be behind bars.
Needing points from the last two games you sack your manager and then in the first of the games lose by enough goals that you end up in the relegation zone with a game to go...
Very interesting listen on the whole topic about who does and does not believe in conspiracy theories and especially anti-vax.....
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000dfqn
Series 21
20th Jan 2020 in case link does not work properly.
This could be of use to ports and airports for rapid screening, there's ongoing research into the accuracy based on the field trials.
https://english.alarabiya.net/en/coronavirus/2020/07/14/Coronavirus-Abu-Dhabi-implements-laser-screening-for-entry-amid-COVID-19-lockdown
If he'd been defrauding people of money, or inciting violence, that's different. That he is professionally ruined is more than sufficient punishment for his actions.
Ponder the fuck over that stat.
Jeez.
Perhaps if it came to it they would (cf voting) forget to do it.
Presumably so they can later use friendly media to accuse said politicians of 'costing 10,000 jobs'.
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/07/21/tech/tiktok-jobs/index.html
But ...
At the time (mid 90s) the Wakefield MMR controversy was all the rage. There was also reports that Gulf War Syndrome was a reaction caused by injecting soldiers with a large number of medicines/vaccines that overwhelmed and damaged their immune systems.
Then you take your child into the GP who tells you that they will be dosing your infant child with 6 vaccines.
I am not surprised that there were anti-vaxxers. When I was confronted with this I said we would take the MMR and come back in a month for the other three. You would have thought I was a murderer. The row got so heated I changed GP.
Like the other Champions League teams this season. Oh wait.
1. The nature of Dugin's Foundations of Geopolitics as the philosophical bedrock of Putinism. This book is taught throughout the Russian military and security apparati. It describes in great detail the nature of Russia's grand strategic project. The separation of the UK from Europe and its reduction to the status of US client state is an imperative. Russia's relationship with Iran and its activities in Libya are also contextualised and predicted in Dugin's book.
2. One important and, in the West, under-appreciated reason that Russia likes to sow highly visible discord abroad is to discourage emigration which is a further drain on Russia's demographic problem. The intensity and regularity with which this message (the West is fucked, don't even thing about going there) is only readily apparent in the Russophone media.
The case of Roy Meadow, whose entirely false testimony based on statistics he didn’t understand and wasn’t competent to explain convicted several women of infanticide, springs to mind.
But, as always, people believe what they want to believe. And it's only the headlines they read. Once published by the Lancet, it gained credibility it didn't deserve.
I blame the referees. You can always add a need for more work as an add-on at the end, but no one will take notice of that.
Besides, it was judges, not politicians, who made the ruling. One judge even went so far as to say that expert witnesses could not be held responsible for their testimony being totally worthless and inaccurate, which was an extraordinary view to take.
I wouldn't be surprised if Watford were relegated and Pearson went to court and won the case.
Expect the polls between him and Biden to close.
‘Scotland may be the price of Boris Johnson’s place in history’
- UK prime minister will have to fight to save the Union from himself
...Mr Johnson helped cause the problem. The 2014 independence referendum should have killed the issue for a generation. But Brexit, which Scotland voted against, revived it. Scots then saw Mr Johnson topple Theresa May, because her approach prioritised saving the Union...
...He is now discussing a Scottish tour but this might go down as well as a royal progress by the conquering knights of Edward I. Mr Johnson is, in the words of one Unionist, “irredeemably toxic to Scots”.
...One leading unionist observes: “I am very pessimistic. The only real grounds for optimism is that people in London are now very worried and that the cabinet office is getting engaged.” Another adds: “London has now seen what they are dealing with. The SNP are not the Liberal Democrats.”
...UK dealings with the devolved administrations are characterised by an almost colonial mindset and need a rethink. One former Downing Street staffer said: “This is not just about politicians. Whitehall also too often treats the first ministers of Scotland and Wales like regional mayors rather than the leaders of countries.”
...This will only get worse as the US trade talks reach a head. With vocal Scottish opposition to weakening food standards, Mr Johnson may be forced to choose between shoring up the Union and the prize of a US trade deal.
That Unionists are waking up to the danger does not mean they are any closer to finding solutions. Most agree that they must find “an emotional argument” for the union. One also argues for small signals like changing the name of the Bank of England to the UK Central Bank.
...Generationally and politically the tide appears to be flowing towards independence. Mr Johnson’s temptation will be to smother Scotland with cash, and hope to prevent an SNP majority next year...
...Mr Johnson is drawn to such brinkmanship and sets great store in his political charm, but he knows his Brexit vision has powered the nationalist surge. If Scotland goes, it will be a calamity he has largely visited upon himself. And history will not be kind.
https://www.ft.com/content/6929f1ca-69e7-419e-90b5-ca08a423004c
FWIW, I've volunteered for one of the large scale trials now that they're looking for over 50s.
Yet to hear anything.
https://www.nearform.com/blog/ireland-donates-contact-tracing-app-to-linux-foundation/
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proposed_second_Scottish_independence_referendum#Opinion_polling
So really Brexit has not made that much difference and we know Boris respects the fact 2014 was a 'once in a generation referendum' anyway
Today, the government's position seems to be explicitly that Russian agents took the Brexit referendum off, despite definitely being active in British votes both before and after. Were they just not into it? Day in lieu?
https://twitter.com/Politics_Polls/status/1285718477131653122?s=20
Seems Joe is still on track, but still beatable.
A true unionist wouldn't want to say that Scottish votes don't matter.
Possibly by election day it will have been forgotten that he told everyone it was a hoax and would disappear anyway of its own accord, is cured by bleach and no one need stay off work.