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This will hardly boost confidence on the government. England's chief nurse dropped from Covid-19 briefing after refusing to back Cummings https://t.co/TMnigiUMXo

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TheScreamingEagles

An absolute disgrace.

TheScreamingEagles

If only Boris Johnson protected nursing homes the way he protected Cummings.

Big_G_NorthWales

I very much doubt it will change public opinion

The public are far more concerned about steps HMG takes to address the serious economic issues

BannedinnParis

It's already dead.

Mexicanpete

Big_G_NorthWales said:

I very much doubt it will change public opinion

The public are far more concerned about steps HMG takes to address the serious economic issues

That sounds like nothing to see, move along.

Big_G_NorthWales

TheScreamingEagles said:

If only Boris Johnson protected nursing homes the way he protected Cummings.

Sturgeon and Boris in same court on nursing and care homes

Peter_the_Punter

Big_G_NorthWales said:

I very much doubt it will change public opinion

The public are far more concerned about steps HMG takes to address the serious economic issues

Agreed. It'snot the sort of thing the public is generally concerned about. It should however be the sort of thing people like us are.

Big_G_NorthWales

Mexicanpete said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

I very much doubt it will change public opinion

The public are far more concerned about steps HMG takes to address the serious economic issues

That sounds like nothing to see, move along.

Not really.

It just an extension of the Cummings story which is very well versed in public opinion

Pulpstar

Boris Johnson is a frontman who can put together some amusing articles, deliver a good speech but isn't a serious politician. He's been shown up by both Starmer and Sunak on this front and is completely reliant on Cummings to do his job.

Big_G_NorthWales

Peter_the_Punter said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

I very much doubt it will change public opinion

The public are far more concerned about steps HMG takes to address the serious economic issues

Agreed. It'snot the sort of thing the public is generally concerned about. It should however be the sort of thing people like us are.

It does concern many on this forum but in the real world of people, no

Sandpit

Yawn.

CatMan

https://twitter.com/ThatCivilTweet/status/1285194852863442944?s=20

CorrectHorseBattery

Whilst Big G might be right that it doesn't impact public opinion, it doesn't mean this isn't an absolutely disgraceful story.

Of course if it was about Labour he'd react in a different way

HYUFD

France makes facemasks compulsory in all enclosed public spaces with a fine of €135 for non compliance

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-53471497

Scott_xP

https://twitter.com/StevePeers/status/1285245633809526787

SeaShantyIrish2

As was Rasputin to the Czarina (and thus the Czar), so is Cummings to the PM.

Scott_xP

https://twitter.com/doctor_oxford/status/1285247794027143168

Big_G_NorthWales

Pulpstar said:

Boris Johnson is a frontman who can put together some amusing articles, deliver a good speech but isn't a serious politician. He's been shown up by both Starmer and Sunak on this front and is completely reliant on Cummings to do his job.

Boris is a shambles and Cummings is a driving force.

However, Cummings seems to want to turn the liberal elite upside down and they do not like it

People though will judge Boris and his government on how covid and the economic crisis works out, nothing more nothing less

CatMan

https://twitter.com/NewYorker/status/1285249330719469570?s=20

Scott_xP

https://twitter.com/peterwalker99/status/1285244867485081601

Carnyx

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Pulpstar said:

Boris Johnson is a frontman who can put together some amusing articles, deliver a good speech but isn't a serious politician. He's been shown up by both Starmer and Sunak on this front and is completely reliant on Cummings to do his job.

Boris is a shambles and Cummings is a driving force.

However, Cummings seems to want to turn the liberal elite upside down and they do not like it

People though will judge Boris and his government on how covid and the economic crisis works out, nothing more nothing less

Oh?

I thought there was something called Brexit? Which was more important than anything else, even the economic crisis?

Big_G_NorthWales

CorrectHorseBattery said:

Whilst Big G might be right that it doesn't impact public opinion, it doesn't mean this isn't an absolutely disgraceful story.

Of course if it was about Labour he'd react in a different way

Is anyone really surprised and as for labour, maybe if they won an election we could judge their behaviour at that time

OnlyLivingBoy

https://mobile.twitter.com/LeonjWard/status/1284042750741143552?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1284042750741143552|twgr^&ref_url=https://dorseteye.com/i-have-nothing-personal-against-chris-grayling-he-then-cuts-his-heart-out-live-on-tv/

HYUFD

https://twitter.com/PickardJE/status/1284846113003110400?s=20

OnlyLivingBoy

OnlyLivingBoy said:

https://mobile.twitter.com/LeonjWard/status/1284042750741143552?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1284042750741143552|twgr^&ref_url=https://dorseteye.com/i-have-nothing-personal-against-chris-grayling-he-then-cuts-his-heart-out-live-on-tv/

I thought the link would show up better than this, apologies. It is John Bercow (I know how much people like him on here) commenting in somewhat unfavorable terms on the subject of Chris Grayling.

Stuartinromford

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Peter_the_Punter said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

I very much doubt it will change public opinion

The public are far more concerned about steps HMG takes to address the serious economic issues

Agreed. It'snot the sort of thing the public is generally concerned about. It should however be the sort of thing people like us are.

It does concern many on this forum but in the real world of people, no

It's unlikely to shift many (if any) votes.

But that's not entirely the point.

I've reached a point of seething acceptance that the apex of No 10 don't care unless an act directly affects their immediate grip on power.

But something can be objectively really wrong, even if it doesn't change the YouGov ratings.

Can't it?

Big_G_NorthWales

Carnyx said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Pulpstar said:

Boris Johnson is a frontman who can put together some amusing articles, deliver a good speech but isn't a serious politician. He's been shown up by both Starmer and Sunak on this front and is completely reliant on Cummings to do his job.

Boris is a shambles and Cummings is a driving force.

However, Cummings seems to want to turn the liberal elite upside down and they do not like it

People though will judge Boris and his government on how covid and the economic crisis works out, nothing more nothing less

Oh?

I thought there was something called Brexit? Which was more important than anything else, even the economic crisis?

Fair point, brexit will be in the mix

Mind you the EU 27 seem to be having a less than harmonious time with factions here, there, and everywhere

Scott_xP

SNIP

CatMan

OnlyLivingBoy said:

OnlyLivingBoy said:

https://mobile.twitter.com/LeonjWard/status/1284042750741143552?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1284042750741143552|twgr^&ref_url=https://dorseteye.com/i-have-nothing-personal-against-chris-grayling-he-then-cuts-his-heart-out-live-on-tv/

I thought the link would show up better than this, apologies. It is John Bercow (I know how much people like him on here) commenting in somewhat unfavorable terms on the subject of Chris Grayling.

Think you need to delete the "mobile" bit

SirNorfolkPassmore

Big_G_NorthWales said:

People though will judge Boris and his government on how covid and the economic crisis works out, nothing more nothing less

I don't actually think that's correct. It's a massive issue now, and will be for a while. Will it be the ONLY issue in the 2024 (presumably) General Election? I'd suggest probably not - it's quite a long way ahead.

CorrectHorseBattery

Honestly how is it not obvious Cummings dresses to take the piss

Scott_xP

Stuartinromford said:

I've reached a point of seething acceptance that the apex of No 10 don't care unless an act directly affects their immediate grip on power.

But something can be objectively really wrong, even if it doesn't change the YouGov ratings.

Can't it?

Even if it hasn't reached the YouGov numbers, it doesn't mean there hasn't been an effect on their grip on power

https://twitter.com/janemerrick23/status/1285181234461761536

Big_G_NorthWales

Stuartinromford said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Peter_the_Punter said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

I very much doubt it will change public opinion

The public are far more concerned about steps HMG takes to address the serious economic issues

Agreed. It'snot the sort of thing the public is generally concerned about. It should however be the sort of thing people like us are.

It does concern many on this forum but in the real world of people, no

It's unlikely to shift many (if any) votes.

But that's not entirely the point.

I've reached a point of seething acceptance that the apex of No 10 don't care unless an act directly affects their immediate grip on power.

But something can be objectively really wrong, even if it doesn't change the YouGov ratings.

Can't it?

I did say Boris is a shambles and he is

It is that type of government and I doubt it will change while Boris and Cummings are there

OnlyLivingBoy

CatMan said:

OnlyLivingBoy said:

OnlyLivingBoy said:

https://mobile.twitter.com/LeonjWard/status/1284042750741143552?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1284042750741143552|twgr^&ref_url=https://dorseteye.com/i-have-nothing-personal-against-chris-grayling-he-then-cuts-his-heart-out-live-on-tv/

I thought the link would show up better than this, apologies. It is John Bercow (I know how much people like him on here) commenting in somewhat unfavorable terms on the subject of Chris Grayling.

Think you need to delete the "mobile" bit

Unfortunately since I am on my mobile I can't edit the original post. Let's leave it up as a lasting monument to my ineptitude. Nevertheless the link does work and is a nice example of Bercow in action.

Malmesbury

Scott_xP said:

https://twitter.com/StevePeers/status/1285245633809526787

Apparently, minister(s) refused to remove from the report what the row was about. Which caused certain Civil Servants to cry "not fair".

IanB2

Peter_the_Punter said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

I very much doubt it will change public opinion

The public are far more concerned about steps HMG takes to address the serious economic issues

Agreed. It'snot the sort of thing the public is generally concerned about. It should however be the sort of thing people like us are.

Something for us to pick at, for sure.

Scott_xP

CorrectHorseBattery said:

Honestly how is it not obvious Cummings dresses to take the piss

Indeed, but there are a couple of interesting points.

1. It takes a LOT of effort to dress as badly as he does. Clearly it's very important to him.
2. For a back-room boy, he gets himself in the papers a LOT.

Preening narcissism seems to be a key character trait.

nichomar

Diagnosticados últimas 24 horas: 685 Diagnosticados últimos 7 días: 8297 Diagnosticados últimos 14 días: 12879 Incidencia Acumulada (IA): 27,39 Número reproductivo básico (Rt): 0,9
Fallecidos:28.422
Fallecidos últimos 7 días: 9
Recuperados:18-05-2020150.376
Hospitalizados: 126.025 Hospitalizados últimos 7 días: 237 UCI: 11.730 UCI últimos 7 días: 15
PCR totales: 2.536.234
PCR/1000 hab: 53,8 Incremento capacidad PCR última semana: 14%

What are the UK doing to pre empt the very likely similar situation arising.

Big_G_NorthWales

SirNorfolkPassmore said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

People though will judge Boris and his government on how covid and the economic crisis works out, nothing more nothing less

I don't actually think that's correct. It's a massive issue now, and will be for a while. Will it be the ONLY issue in the 2024 (presumably) General Election? I'd suggest probably not - it's quite a long way ahead.

If HMG are seen to have mitigated covid economically plus brexit they should be in pole position for 2024.

I accept if is doing a lot of heavy lifting

Big_G_NorthWales

Scott_xP said:

CorrectHorseBattery said:

Honestly how is it not obvious Cummings dresses to take the piss

Indeed, but there are a couple of interesting points.

1. It takes a LOT of effort to dress as badly as he does. Clearly it's very important to him.
2. For a back-room boy, he gets himself in the papers a LOT.

Preening narcissism seems to be a key character trait.

Maybe he just likes upsetting you

Scott_xP

https://twitter.com/anandMenon1/status/1285134605637627904

Luckyguy1983

I am not sure in what context it would have been appropriate for this nurse to offer commentary on Dominic Cummings.

Mexicanpete

Carnyx said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Pulpstar said:

Boris Johnson is a frontman who can put together some amusing articles, deliver a good speech but isn't a serious politician. He's been shown up by both Starmer and Sunak on this front and is completely reliant on Cummings to do his job.

Boris is a shambles and Cummings is a driving force.

However, Cummings seems to want to turn the liberal elite upside down and they do not like it

People though will judge Boris and his government on how covid and the economic crisis works out, nothing more nothing less

Oh?

I thought there was something called Brexit? Which was more important than anything else, even the economic crisis?

Any shortcomings of Brexit can now be hidden under the mantle of post-Covid-19 fallout.

Brexit would have been a rip roaring success had it not been for Coronavirus.

contrarian

Luckyguy1983 said:

I am not sure in what context it would have been appropriate for this nurse to offer commentary on Dominic Cummings.

Absolutely. Its a nothingburger. Next.

TheScreamingEagles

Ladies and gentleman, I've found it, a worse prediction than that Sion Simon piece.

Here's a top Manchester United fansite chap, at the end of the last season, making a prediction about Liverpool.

https://twitter.com/Tactical_Times/status/1285255864832741377

contrarian

Mexicanpete said:

Carnyx said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Pulpstar said:

Boris Johnson is a frontman who can put together some amusing articles, deliver a good speech but isn't a serious politician. He's been shown up by both Starmer and Sunak on this front and is completely reliant on Cummings to do his job.

Boris is a shambles and Cummings is a driving force.

However, Cummings seems to want to turn the liberal elite upside down and they do not like it

People though will judge Boris and his government on how covid and the economic crisis works out, nothing more nothing less

Oh?

I thought there was something called Brexit? Which was more important than anything else, even the economic crisis?

Any shortcomings of Brexit can now be hidden under the mantle of post-Covid-19 fallout.

Brexit would have been a rip roaring success had it not been for Coronavirus.

Our share of the European recovery fund would have been EUR80bn.

We won;t have to pay that now!

Carnyx

Luckyguy1983 said:

I am not sure in what context it would have been appropriate for this nurse to offer commentary on Dominic Cummings.

She would have been asked by the journos. And nurses know about, and are very keen on, infection control. There will be specialist public health nurses. Quite legitimate for the head nurse to comment on such issues.

Scott_xP

Luckyguy1983 said:

I am not sure in what context it would have been appropriate for this nurse to offer commentary on Dominic Cummings.

Did he undermine the public health message of the Government and destroy trust?

Scott_xP

contrarian said:

Absolutely. Its a nothingburger. Next.

If it was of no consequence, why was she benched?

BoZo and Cummings knew it was bad, and didn't want the publicity

IanB2

Trump told reporters he would resume holding coronavirus briefings starting at 5 pm ET tomorrow.

contrarian

Scott_xP said:

contrarian said:

Absolutely. Its a nothingburger. Next.

If it was of no consequence, why was she benched?

BoZo and Cummings knew it was bad, and didn't want the publicity

You didn;t get him with Durham, you won;t get him with this.

Opinion is turning against health professionals after the PHE death count scandal and Vallance's dire warnings when we dared to start coming out of lockdown,

Dire warnings which turned out to be a heap of total horsesh8t.

williamglenn

IanB2 said:

Trump told reporters he would resume holding coronavirus briefings starting at 5 pm ET tomorrow.

Presumably a substitute for rallies.

Scott_xP

contrarian said:

You didn;t get him with Durham, you won;t get him with this.

This was Durham. Try and keep up...

Big_G_NorthWales

contrarian said:

Scott_xP said:

contrarian said:

Absolutely. Its a nothingburger. Next.

If it was of no consequence, why was she benched?

BoZo and Cummings knew it was bad, and didn't want the publicity

You didn;t get him with Durham, you won;t get him with his.

Opinion is turning against health professionals after the PHE death count scandal and Vallance's dire warnings when we dared to start coming out of lockdown,

Dire warnings which turned out to be a heap of total horsesh8t.

Exactly

ClippP

Big_G_NorthWales said:

CorrectHorseBattery said:

Whilst Big G might be right that it doesn't impact public opinion, it doesn't mean this isn't an absolutely disgraceful story.
Of course if it was about Labour he'd react in a different way

Is anyone really surprised and as for labour, maybe if they won an election we could judge their behaviour at that time

If the Conservatives stopped cheating and lying, perhaps they would. Level playing field and all that.....

RobD

contrarian said:

Scott_xP said:

contrarian said:

Absolutely. Its a nothingburger. Next.

If it was of no consequence, why was she benched?

BoZo and Cummings knew it was bad, and didn't want the publicity

You didn;t get him with Durham, you won;t get him with this.

Opinion is turning against health professionals after the PHE death count scandal and Vallance's dire warnings when we dared to start coming out of lockdown,

Dire warnings which turned out to be a heap of total horsesh8t.

There has been a significant shift in public opinion on this?

Big_G_NorthWales

ClippP said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

CorrectHorseBattery said:

Whilst Big G might be right that it doesn't impact public opinion, it doesn't mean this isn't an absolutely disgraceful story.
Of course if it was about Labour he'd react in a different way

Is anyone really surprised and as for labour, maybe if they won an election we could judge their behaviour at that time

If the Conservatives stopped cheating and lying, perhaps they would. Level playing field and all that.....

Really. You need a better argument than that

TheWhiteRabbit

FPT My student loans are at 1.2%.

Makes the decision easy...

Scott_xP

I must away, but I will just leave this for the fanbois...

https://twitter.com/mfletchertimes/status/1285250016320327680

Fysics_Teacher

ClippP said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

CorrectHorseBattery said:

Whilst Big G might be right that it doesn't impact public opinion, it doesn't mean this isn't an absolutely disgraceful story.
Of course if it was about Labour he'd react in a different way

Is anyone really surprised and as for labour, maybe if they won an election we could judge their behaviour at that time

If the Conservatives stopped cheating and lying, perhaps they would. Level playing field and all that.....

Cheating and lying is not enough. If it were the Lib Dems would still be in government.

Edit for those who need it:

TheScreamingEagles

Arse

https://twitter.com/verge/status/1285257465848901632

Nigel_Foremain

Scott_xP said:

I must away, but I will just leave this for the fanbois...

https://twitter.com/mfletchertimes/status/1285250016320327680

As I have mentioned many times before...Johnson has little or no qualities of leadership. Having him as PM right now is like putting Private Pike in charge of the D Day landings.

Fysics_Teacher

TheScreamingEagles said:

Arse

https://twitter.com/verge/status/1285257465848901632

I must admit I hadn’t even heard of it before you mentioned it: looks interesting.

kle4

Nigel_Foremain said:

Scott_xP said:

I must away, but I will just leave this for the fanbois...

https://twitter.com/mfletchertimes/status/1285250016320327680

As I have mentioned many times before...Johnson has little or no qualities of leadership. Having him as PM right now is like putting Private Pike in charge of the D Day landings.

He clearly has at least one quality of leadership which cannot be denied - the quality to get people to follow him - even if what he does with that quality is not what many of us like.

Fysics_Teacher

Scott_xP said:

I must away, but I will just leave this for the fanbois...

https://twitter.com/mfletchertimes/status/1285250016320327680

All true.

Still better than the alternative was in December.

TheScreamingEagles

Fysics_Teacher said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Arse

https://twitter.com/verge/status/1285257465848901632

I must admit I hadn’t even heard of it before you mentioned it: looks interesting.

I saw an extended preview of about 5 minutes last year of this and it looked amazing, the fact it is Robert Pattinson who I have fangirled over since I saw him as Cedric Diggory Christoper Nolan adds to excitement about this film.

Luckyguy1983

Carnyx said:

Luckyguy1983 said:

I am not sure in what context it would have been appropriate for this nurse to offer commentary on Dominic Cummings.

She would have been asked by the journos. And nurses know about, and are very keen on, infection control. There will be specialist public health nurses. Quite legitimate for the head nurse to comment on such issues.

It would have been legitimate for her to speak about infection control, but also fairly basic media training to bat away a question about the personal behaviour of a Government advisor. Speaking on the former does not necessitate failure to do the latter. By the way, if she'd offered full-hearted support to Cummings in response to that question, that would also be innaproproate.

Fysics_Teacher

TheScreamingEagles said:

Fysics_Teacher said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Arse

https://twitter.com/verge/status/1285257465848901632

I must admit I hadn’t even heard of it before you mentioned it: looks interesting.

I saw an extended preview of about 5 minutes last year of this and it looked amazing, the fact it is Robert Pattinson who I have fangirled over since I saw him as Cedric Diggory Christoper Nolan adds to excitement about this film.

I’ll check out the trailer: not that they are always to be trusted of course.

Edit:
Having now watched the trailer, it does look very interesting: thanks for the tip!

kle4

Fysics_Teacher said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Fysics_Teacher said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Arse

https://twitter.com/verge/status/1285257465848901632

I must admit I hadn’t even heard of it before you mentioned it: looks interesting.

I saw an extended preview of about 5 minutes last year of this and it looked amazing, the fact it is Robert Pattinson who I have fangirled over since I saw him as Cedric Diggory Christoper Nolan adds to excitement about this film.

I’ll check out the trailer: not that they are always to be trusted of course.

I maintain that there should be an award for the best trailer, with a special category for where the film turns out to be really bad.

TheScreamingEagles

WHAT A CATCH!

Nigel_Foremain

contrarian said:

Scott_xP said:

contrarian said:

Absolutely. Its a nothingburger. Next.

If it was of no consequence, why was she benched?

BoZo and Cummings knew it was bad, and didn't want the publicity

You didn;t get him with Durham, you won;t get him with this.

Opinion is turning against health professionals after the PHE death count scandal and Vallance's dire warnings when we dared to start coming out of lockdown,

Dire warnings which turned out to be a heap of total horsesh8t.

Au contraire, Mr Contrarian. He was well and truly "got". It hasn't reversed any polls yet, but for those that want to see a Labour government (I am somewhat on the fence as to whether I want one), Dominic "Emperor's-New-Clothes" Cummings is an asset to their cause.

Heis almost as much a liability as his boss. Arrogance and hubris guide the way of both monkey and organ grinder in this instance, and it will be arrogance and hubris that does for them both in the end. The drip drip realisation of both their incompetence will dawn on the electorate eventually.

Pagan2

Luckyguy1983 said:

Carnyx said:

Luckyguy1983 said:

I am not sure in what context it would have been appropriate for this nurse to offer commentary on Dominic Cummings.

She would have been asked by the journos. And nurses know about, and are very keen on, infection control. There will be specialist public health nurses. Quite legitimate for the head nurse to comment on such issues.

It would have been legitimate for her to speak about infection control, but also fairly basic media training to bat away a question about the personal behaviour of a Government advisor. Speaking on the former does not necessitate failure to do the latter. By the way, if she'd offered full-hearted support to Cummings in response to that question, that would also be innaproproate.

Why the hell is she chief nurse doesnt look like she has been near a damn bed pan in over 3 decades, Just another quangocrat moving from one failure to another by the look of it

contrarian

Fysics_Teacher said:

Scott_xP said:

I must away, but I will just leave this for the fanbois...

https://twitter.com/mfletchertimes/status/1285250016320327680

All true.

Still better than the alternative was in December.

The think that has saved Johnson so far is that he knows he has glaring limitations. Others are taking the policy strain. He does not micro manage much.

Stuartinromford

Nigel_Foremain said:

Scott_xP said:

I must away, but I will just leave this for the fanbois...

https://twitter.com/mfletchertimes/status/1285250016320327680

As I have mentioned many times before...Johnson has little or no qualities of leadership. Having him as PM right now is like putting Private Pike in charge of the D Day landings.

Of course he's unsuitable as PM.

But he's also worked out that, as long as he keeps half the PCP onside, nobody can touch him until 2024. So until then, he can do as he damn well pleases.

Charles

CorrectHorseBattery said:

Whilst Big G might be right that it doesn't impact public opinion, it doesn't mean this isn't an absolutely disgraceful story.

Of course if it was about Labour he'd react in a different way

You are judging guilt based on post hoc procter hoc

CatMan

kle4 said:

Fysics_Teacher said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Fysics_Teacher said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Arse

https://twitter.com/verge/status/1285257465848901632

I must admit I hadn’t even heard of it before you mentioned it: looks interesting.

I saw an extended preview of about 5 minutes last year of this and it looked amazing, the fact it is Robert Pattinson who I have fangirled over since I saw him as Cedric Diggory Christoper Nolan adds to excitement about this film.

I’ll check out the trailer: not that they are always to be trusted of course.

I maintain that there should be an award for the best trailer, with a special category for where the film turns out to be really bad.

Sucker Punch?

Alphabet_Soup

nichomar said:

Diagnosticados últimas 24 horas: 685 Diagnosticados últimos 7 días: 8297 Diagnosticados últimos 14 días: 12879 Incidencia Acumulada (IA): 27,39 Número reproductivo básico (Rt): 0,9
Fallecidos:28.422
Fallecidos últimos 7 días: 9
Recuperados:18-05-2020150.376
Hospitalizados: 126.025 Hospitalizados últimos 7 días: 237 UCI: 11.730 UCI últimos 7 días: 15
PCR totales: 2.536.234
PCR/1000 hab: 53,8 Incremento capacidad PCR última semana: 14%

What are the UK doing to pre empt the very likely similar situation arising.

We're sending all our drunken idiots to Spain.

tlg86

TheScreamingEagles said:

Ladies and gentleman, I've found it, a worse prediction than that Sion Simon piece.

Here's a top Manchester United fansite chap, at the end of the last season, making a prediction about Liverpool.

https://twitter.com/Tactical_Times/status/1285255864832741377

Got himself spread around the net, though...

kle4

Stuartinromford said:

Nigel_Foremain said:

Scott_xP said:

I must away, but I will just leave this for the fanbois...

https://twitter.com/mfletchertimes/status/1285250016320327680

As I have mentioned many times before...Johnson has little or no qualities of leadership. Having him as PM right now is like putting Private Pike in charge of the D Day landings.

Of course he's unsuitable as PM.

But he's also worked out that, as long as he keeps half the PCP onside, nobody can touch him until 2024. So until then, he can do as he damn well pleases.

Not quite. I mean, almost certainly safe no matter what from the PCP, but if he pisses the people off enough then it might well weaken the PCP's backing - it's not as though many of them were huge fans, they turned to him pretty late in a very difficut moment - and then he could not do what he pleases. However, at the moment he has not lost the support of the people either, though all things happen in the end.

Pagan2

Alphabet_Soup said:

nichomar said:

Diagnosticados últimas 24 horas: 685 Diagnosticados últimos 7 días: 8297 Diagnosticados últimos 14 días: 12879 Incidencia Acumulada (IA): 27,39 Número reproductivo básico (Rt): 0,9
Fallecidos:28.422
Fallecidos últimos 7 días: 9
Recuperados:18-05-2020150.376
Hospitalizados: 126.025 Hospitalizados últimos 7 días: 237 UCI: 11.730 UCI últimos 7 días: 15
PCR totales: 2.536.234
PCR/1000 hab: 53,8 Incremento capacidad PCR última semana: 14%

What are the UK doing to pre empt the very likely similar situation arising.

We're sending all our drunken idiots to Spain.

the labour party conference is in barcelona this year?

Nigel_Foremain

Fysics_Teacher said:

Scott_xP said:

I must away, but I will just leave this for the fanbois...

https://twitter.com/mfletchertimes/status/1285250016320327680

All true.

Still better than the alternative was in December.

Which is the only reason he is there. A choice of clown versus dangerous Marxist and the electorate thought a bit of a laugh would be better. What a choice it was!

Luckyguy1983

Scott_xP said:

Luckyguy1983 said:

I am not sure in what context it would have been appropriate for this nurse to offer commentary on Dominic Cummings.

Did he undermine the public health message of the Government and destroy trust?

'I'm not here to offer commentary on the actions of individuals. Let's discuss what I am here to talk about, which is...'

Philip_Thompson

Star fast bowler dropped because he broke COVID rules, an entire day washed out . . .

. . . But two declarations in the innings from England and a final hour victory.

Nothing beats Test Cricket.

Fysics_Teacher

Pagan2 said:

Luckyguy1983 said:

Carnyx said:

Luckyguy1983 said:

I am not sure in what context it would have been appropriate for this nurse to offer commentary on Dominic Cummings.

She would have been asked by the journos. And nurses know about, and are very keen on, infection control. There will be specialist public health nurses. Quite legitimate for the head nurse to comment on such issues.

It would have been legitimate for her to speak about infection control, but also fairly basic media training to bat away a question about the personal behaviour of a Government advisor. Speaking on the former does not necessitate failure to do the latter. By the way, if she'd offered full-hearted support to Cummings in response to that question, that would also be innaproproate.

Why the hell is she chief nurse doesnt look like she has been near a damn bed pan in over 3 decades, Just another quangocrat moving from one failure to another by the look of it

Nurses don’t do that sort of thing any more.

Charles

HYUFD said:

https://twitter.com/PickardJE/status/1284846113003110400?s=20

No it’s how someone who doesn’t care what he looks like dresses when he wants to go for a long walk in the sun

Sun hat: check
Comfortable shoes: check
Walking stick: check

Charles

OnlyLivingBoy said:

OnlyLivingBoy said:

https://mobile.twitter.com/LeonjWard/status/1284042750741143552?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1284042750741143552|twgr^&ref_url=https://dorseteye.com/i-have-nothing-personal-against-chris-grayling-he-then-cuts-his-heart-out-live-on-tv/

I thought the link would show up better than this, apologies. It is John Bercow (I know how much people like him on here) commenting in somewhat unfavorable terms on the subject of Chris Grayling.

Who’s John Bercow?

Fysics_Teacher

kle4 said:

Fysics_Teacher said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Fysics_Teacher said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Arse

https://twitter.com/verge/status/1285257465848901632

I must admit I hadn’t even heard of it before you mentioned it: looks interesting.

I saw an extended preview of about 5 minutes last year of this and it looked amazing, the fact it is Robert Pattinson who I have fangirled over since I saw him as Cedric Diggory Christoper Nolan adds to excitement about this film.

I’ll check out the trailer: not that they are always to be trusted of course.

I maintain that there should be an award for the best trailer, with a special category for where the film turns out to be really bad.

It sometimes goes the other way: the trailer for the original Paddington was rubbish.

Philip_Thompson

Scott_xP said:

contrarian said:

You didn;t get him with Durham, you won;t get him with this.

This was Durham. Try and keep up...

Yes still banging on about the same old s**t. Give it up, its boring now.

Pagan2

Fysics_Teacher said:

Pagan2 said:

Luckyguy1983 said:

Carnyx said:

Luckyguy1983 said:

I am not sure in what context it would have been appropriate for this nurse to offer commentary on Dominic Cummings.

She would have been asked by the journos. And nurses know about, and are very keen on, infection control. There will be specialist public health nurses. Quite legitimate for the head nurse to comment on such issues.

It would have been legitimate for her to speak about infection control, but also fairly basic media training to bat away a question about the personal behaviour of a Government advisor. Speaking on the former does not necessitate failure to do the latter. By the way, if she'd offered full-hearted support to Cummings in response to that question, that would also be innaproproate.

Why the hell is she chief nurse doesnt look like she has been near a damn bed pan in over 3 decades, Just another quangocrat moving from one failure to another by the look of it

Nurses don’t do that sort of thing any more.

Well whatever they do doesnt matter....think of your own line of work, now think of someone who hasn't done frontline in it for the last 30 years. We all know they are spouting bollocks

Big_G_NorthWales

kle4 said:

Nigel_Foremain said:

Scott_xP said:

I must away, but I will just leave this for the fanbois...

https://twitter.com/mfletchertimes/status/1285250016320327680

As I have mentioned many times before...Johnson has little or no qualities of leadership. Having him as PM right now is like putting Private Pike in charge of the D Day landings.

He clearly has at least one quality of leadership which cannot be denied - the quality to get people to follow him - even if what he does with that quality is not what many of us like.

Fair comment

nichomar

Alphabet_Soup said:

nichomar said:

Diagnosticados últimas 24 horas: 685 Diagnosticados últimos 7 días: 8297 Diagnosticados últimos 14 días: 12879 Incidencia Acumulada (IA): 27,39 Número reproductivo básico (Rt): 0,9
Fallecidos:28.422
Fallecidos últimos 7 días: 9
Recuperados:18-05-2020150.376
Hospitalizados: 126.025 Hospitalizados últimos 7 días: 237 UCI: 11.730 UCI últimos 7 días: 15
PCR totales: 2.536.234
PCR/1000 hab: 53,8 Incremento capacidad PCR última semana: 14%

What are the UK doing to pre empt the very likely similar situation arising.

We're sending all our drunken idiots to Spain.

But they will come back, actually Benidorm is not badly effected (Yet) , the problem is mainly up north but it’s roots are in young people partying and then spreading it to their families.

kle4

Charles said:

HYUFD said:

https://twitter.com/PickardJE/status/1284846113003110400?s=20

No it’s how someone who doesn’t care what he looks like dresses when he wants to go for a long walk in the sun

Sun hat: check
Comfortable shoes: check
Walking stick: check

Yeah right. The slovenly dress, the reported frequent cursing and 'shocking' statements, the obvious leaks to ensure stories stay on him and his words, it all fits the image of a childish rebel, someone who so doesn't care what others think that they feel the need to demonstrate how they don't care what others think all the time, which is to say they clearly do care what others think.

It's a fine line, to be sure, and opinions will vary, but like art and pornography I think most can tell the difference even when hard to quantify it sometimes.

kle4

Fysics_Teacher said:

kle4 said:

Fysics_Teacher said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Fysics_Teacher said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Arse

https://twitter.com/verge/status/1285257465848901632

I must admit I hadn’t even heard of it before you mentioned it: looks interesting.

I saw an extended preview of about 5 minutes last year of this and it looked amazing, the fact it is Robert Pattinson who I have fangirled over since I saw him as Cedric Diggory Christoper Nolan adds to excitement about this film.

I’ll check out the trailer: not that they are always to be trusted of course.

I maintain that there should be an award for the best trailer, with a special category for where the film turns out to be really bad.

It sometimes goes the other way: the trailer for the original Paddington was rubbish.

True comment. I hated the trailer for Mad Max Fury Road.

SeaShantyIrish2

"Sucker Punch"

Isn't this what Trumpky supporters imbibe, when they "drink the Kool-aid"?

Philip_Thompson

Charles said:

OnlyLivingBoy said:

OnlyLivingBoy said:

https://mobile.twitter.com/LeonjWard/status/1284042750741143552?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1284042750741143552|twgr^&ref_url=https://dorseteye.com/i-have-nothing-personal-against-chris-grayling-he-then-cuts-his-heart-out-live-on-tv/

I thought the link would show up better than this, apologies. It is John Bercow (I know how much people like him on here) commenting in somewhat unfavorable terms on the subject of Chris Grayling.

Who’s John Bercow?

Who's Chris Grayling?

Fysics_Teacher

Pagan2 said:

Fysics_Teacher said:

Pagan2 said:

Luckyguy1983 said:

Carnyx said:

Luckyguy1983 said:

I am not sure in what context it would have been appropriate for this nurse to offer commentary on Dominic Cummings.

She would have been asked by the journos. And nurses know about, and are very keen on, infection control. There will be specialist public health nurses. Quite legitimate for the head nurse to comment on such issues.

It would have been legitimate for her to speak about infection control, but also fairly basic media training to bat away a question about the personal behaviour of a Government advisor. Speaking on the former does not necessitate failure to do the latter. By the way, if she'd offered full-hearted support to Cummings in response to that question, that would also be innaproproate.

Why the hell is she chief nurse doesnt look like she has been near a damn bed pan in over 3 decades, Just another quangocrat moving from one failure to another by the look of it

Nurses don’t do that sort of thing any more.

Well whatever they do doesnt matter....think of your own line of work, now think of someone who hasn't done frontline in it for the last 30 years. We all know they are spouting bollocks

But you are not allowed to tell the Head that to their face...

Charles

TheScreamingEagles said:

Arse

https://twitter.com/verge/status/1285257465848901632

When is the new batman movie being released? My home gets blown up in the opening scenes 😂

Carnyx

Luckyguy1983 said:

Carnyx said:

Luckyguy1983 said:

I am not sure in what context it would have been appropriate for this nurse to offer commentary on Dominic Cummings.

She would have been asked by the journos. And nurses know about, and are very keen on, infection control. There will be specialist public health nurses. Quite legitimate for the head nurse to comment on such issues.

It would have been legitimate for her to speak about infection control, but also fairly basic media training to bat away a question about the personal behaviour of a Government advisor. Speaking on the former does not necessitate failure to do the latter. By the way, if she'd offered full-hearted support to Cummings in response to that question, that would also be innaproproate.

And if she were asked whether doing what Mr C did - but anonymised - was good infection control?

Nigel_Foremain

Charles said:

HYUFD said:

https://twitter.com/PickardJE/status/1284846113003110400?s=20

No it’s how someone who doesn’t care what he looks like dresses when he wants to go for a long walk in the sun

Sun hat: check
Comfortable shoes: check
Walking stick: check

Does anyone not look at that and think "what a twat"? Even his wife must think it.

RobD

Charles said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Arse

https://twitter.com/verge/status/1285257465848901632

When is the new batman movie being released? My home gets blown up in the opening scenes 😂

That's why you always keep a spare.