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This will hardly boost confidence on the government. England's chief nurse dropped from Covid-19 briefing after refusing to back Cummings https://t.co/TMnigiUMXo

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  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 123,168
    An absolute disgrace.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 123,168
    edited July 2020
    If only Boris Johnson protected nursing homes the way he protected Cummings.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 66,334
    I very much doubt it will change public opinion

    The public are far more concerned about steps HMG takes to address the serious economic issues
  • BannedinnParisBannedinnParis Posts: 1,884
    It's already dead.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 33,442
    Big_G_NorthWales said:

    I very much doubt it will change public opinion

    The public are far more concerned about steps HMG takes to address the serious economic issues

    That sounds like nothing to see, move along.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 66,334
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    If only Boris Johnson protected nursing homes the way he protected Cummings.

    Sturgeon and Boris in same court on nursing and care homes
  • Peter_the_PunterPeter_the_Punter Posts: 14,785
    Big_G_NorthWales said:

    I very much doubt it will change public opinion

    The public are far more concerned about steps HMG takes to address the serious economic issues

    Agreed. It'snot the sort of thing the public is generally concerned about. It should however be the sort of thing people like us are.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 66,334
    Mexicanpete said:

    Big_G_NorthWales said:

    I very much doubt it will change public opinion

    The public are far more concerned about steps HMG takes to address the serious economic issues

    That sounds like nothing to see, move along.
    Not really.

    It just an extension of the Cummings story which is very well versed in public opinion
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 79,933
    Boris Johnson is a frontman who can put together some amusing articles, deliver a good speech but isn't a serious politician. He's been shown up by both Starmer and Sunak on this front and is completely reliant on Cummings to do his job.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 66,334
    Peter_the_Punter said:

    Big_G_NorthWales said:

    I very much doubt it will change public opinion

    The public are far more concerned about steps HMG takes to address the serious economic issues

    Agreed. It'snot the sort of thing the public is generally concerned about. It should however be the sort of thing people like us are.
    It does concern many on this forum but in the real world of people, no
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,241
    Yawn.
  • CatManCatMan Posts: 3,354
    https://twitter.com/ThatCivilTweet/status/1285194852863442944?s=20
  • CorrectHorseBatteryCorrectHorseBattery Posts: 21,436
    Whilst Big G might be right that it doesn't impact public opinion, it doesn't mean this isn't an absolutely disgraceful story.

    Of course if it was about Labour he'd react in a different way
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 129,432
    France makes facemasks compulsory in all enclosed public spaces with a fine of €135 for non compliance

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-53471497
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 39,478
    https://twitter.com/StevePeers/status/1285245633809526787
  • SeaShantyIrish2SeaShantyIrish2 Posts: 17,559
    As was Rasputin to the Czarina (and thus the Czar), so is Cummings to the PM.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 39,478
    https://twitter.com/doctor_oxford/status/1285247794027143168
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 66,334
    Pulpstar said:

    Boris Johnson is a frontman who can put together some amusing articles, deliver a good speech but isn't a serious politician. He's been shown up by both Starmer and Sunak on this front and is completely reliant on Cummings to do his job.

    Boris is a shambles and Cummings is a driving force.

    However, Cummings seems to want to turn the liberal elite upside down and they do not like it

    People though will judge Boris and his government on how covid and the economic crisis works out, nothing more nothing less
  • CatManCatMan Posts: 3,354
    https://twitter.com/NewYorker/status/1285249330719469570?s=20
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 39,478
    https://twitter.com/peterwalker99/status/1285244867485081601
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 44,774
    Big_G_NorthWales said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Boris Johnson is a frontman who can put together some amusing articles, deliver a good speech but isn't a serious politician. He's been shown up by both Starmer and Sunak on this front and is completely reliant on Cummings to do his job.

    Boris is a shambles and Cummings is a driving force.

    However, Cummings seems to want to turn the liberal elite upside down and they do not like it

    People though will judge Boris and his government on how covid and the economic crisis works out, nothing more nothing less
    Oh?

    I thought there was something called Brexit? Which was more important than anything else, even the economic crisis?
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 66,334
    CorrectHorseBattery said:

    Whilst Big G might be right that it doesn't impact public opinion, it doesn't mean this isn't an absolutely disgraceful story.

    Of course if it was about Labour he'd react in a different way

    Is anyone really surprised and as for labour, maybe if they won an election we could judge their behaviour at that time
  • OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 16,719
    https://mobile.twitter.com/LeonjWard/status/1284042750741143552?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1284042750741143552|twgr^&ref_url=https://dorseteye.com/i-have-nothing-personal-against-chris-grayling-he-then-cuts-his-heart-out-live-on-tv/
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 129,432
    https://twitter.com/PickardJE/status/1284846113003110400?s=20
  • OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 16,719
    OnlyLivingBoy said:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/LeonjWard/status/1284042750741143552?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1284042750741143552|twgr^&ref_url=https://dorseteye.com/i-have-nothing-personal-against-chris-grayling-he-then-cuts-his-heart-out-live-on-tv/

    I thought the link would show up better than this, apologies. It is John Bercow (I know how much people like him on here) commenting in somewhat unfavorable terms on the subject of Chris Grayling.
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 19,340
    Big_G_NorthWales said:

    Peter_the_Punter said:

    Big_G_NorthWales said:

    I very much doubt it will change public opinion

    The public are far more concerned about steps HMG takes to address the serious economic issues

    Agreed. It'snot the sort of thing the public is generally concerned about. It should however be the sort of thing people like us are.
    It does concern many on this forum but in the real world of people, no
    It's unlikely to shift many (if any) votes.

    But that's not entirely the point.

    I've reached a point of seething acceptance that the apex of No 10 don't care unless an act directly affects their immediate grip on power.

    But something can be objectively really wrong, even if it doesn't change the YouGov ratings.

    Can't it?
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 66,334
    Carnyx said:

    Big_G_NorthWales said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Boris Johnson is a frontman who can put together some amusing articles, deliver a good speech but isn't a serious politician. He's been shown up by both Starmer and Sunak on this front and is completely reliant on Cummings to do his job.

    Boris is a shambles and Cummings is a driving force.

    However, Cummings seems to want to turn the liberal elite upside down and they do not like it

    People though will judge Boris and his government on how covid and the economic crisis works out, nothing more nothing less
    Oh?

    I thought there was something called Brexit? Which was more important than anything else, even the economic crisis?
    Fair point, brexit will be in the mix

    Mind you the EU 27 seem to be having a less than harmonious time with factions here, there, and everywhere
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 39,478
    edited July 2020
    SNIP
  • CatManCatMan Posts: 3,354
    OnlyLivingBoy said:

    OnlyLivingBoy said:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/LeonjWard/status/1284042750741143552?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1284042750741143552|twgr^&ref_url=https://dorseteye.com/i-have-nothing-personal-against-chris-grayling-he-then-cuts-his-heart-out-live-on-tv/

    I thought the link would show up better than this, apologies. It is John Bercow (I know how much people like him on here) commenting in somewhat unfavorable terms on the subject of Chris Grayling.
    Think you need to delete the "mobile" bit
  • SirNorfolkPassmoreSirNorfolkPassmore Posts: 7,400
    Big_G_NorthWales said:


    People though will judge Boris and his government on how covid and the economic crisis works out, nothing more nothing less

    I don't actually think that's correct. It's a massive issue now, and will be for a while. Will it be the ONLY issue in the 2024 (presumably) General Election? I'd suggest probably not - it's quite a long way ahead.
  • CorrectHorseBatteryCorrectHorseBattery Posts: 21,436
    Honestly how is it not obvious Cummings dresses to take the piss
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 39,478
    Stuartinromford said:

    I've reached a point of seething acceptance that the apex of No 10 don't care unless an act directly affects their immediate grip on power.

    But something can be objectively really wrong, even if it doesn't change the YouGov ratings.

    Can't it?

    Even if it hasn't reached the YouGov numbers, it doesn't mean there hasn't been an effect on their grip on power

    https://twitter.com/janemerrick23/status/1285181234461761536
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 66,334
    Stuartinromford said:

    Big_G_NorthWales said:

    Peter_the_Punter said:

    Big_G_NorthWales said:

    I very much doubt it will change public opinion

    The public are far more concerned about steps HMG takes to address the serious economic issues

    Agreed. It'snot the sort of thing the public is generally concerned about. It should however be the sort of thing people like us are.
    It does concern many on this forum but in the real world of people, no
    It's unlikely to shift many (if any) votes.

    But that's not entirely the point.

    I've reached a point of seething acceptance that the apex of No 10 don't care unless an act directly affects their immediate grip on power.

    But something can be objectively really wrong, even if it doesn't change the YouGov ratings.

    Can't it?
    I did say Boris is a shambles and he is

    It is that type of government and I doubt it will change while Boris and Cummings are there
  • OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 16,719
    CatMan said:

    OnlyLivingBoy said:

    OnlyLivingBoy said:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/LeonjWard/status/1284042750741143552?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1284042750741143552|twgr^&ref_url=https://dorseteye.com/i-have-nothing-personal-against-chris-grayling-he-then-cuts-his-heart-out-live-on-tv/

    I thought the link would show up better than this, apologies. It is John Bercow (I know how much people like him on here) commenting in somewhat unfavorable terms on the subject of Chris Grayling.
    Think you need to delete the "mobile" bit
    Unfortunately since I am on my mobile I can't edit the original post. Let's leave it up as a lasting monument to my ineptitude. Nevertheless the link does work and is a nice example of Bercow in action.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 56,238
    Scott_xP said:

    https://twitter.com/StevePeers/status/1285245633809526787

    Apparently, minister(s) refused to remove from the report what the row was about. Which caused certain Civil Servants to cry "not fair".
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 52,593
    Peter_the_Punter said:

    Big_G_NorthWales said:

    I very much doubt it will change public opinion

    The public are far more concerned about steps HMG takes to address the serious economic issues

    Agreed. It'snot the sort of thing the public is generally concerned about. It should however be the sort of thing people like us are.
    Something for us to pick at, for sure.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 39,478
    CorrectHorseBattery said:

    Honestly how is it not obvious Cummings dresses to take the piss

    Indeed, but there are a couple of interesting points.

    1. It takes a LOT of effort to dress as badly as he does. Clearly it's very important to him.
    2. For a back-room boy, he gets himself in the papers a LOT.

    Preening narcissism seems to be a key character trait.
  • nichomarnichomar Posts: 7,483
    Diagnosticados últimas 24 horas: 685 Diagnosticados últimos 7 días: 8297 Diagnosticados últimos 14 días: 12879 Incidencia Acumulada (IA): 27,39 Número reproductivo básico (Rt): 0,9
    Fallecidos:28.422
    Fallecidos últimos 7 días: 9
    Recuperados:18-05-2020150.376
    Hospitalizados: 126.025 Hospitalizados últimos 7 días: 237 UCI: 11.730 UCI últimos 7 días: 15
    PCR totales: 2.536.234
    PCR/1000 hab: 53,8 Incremento capacidad PCR última semana: 14%

    What are the UK doing to pre empt the very likely similar situation arising.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 66,334
    SirNorfolkPassmore said:

    Big_G_NorthWales said:


    People though will judge Boris and his government on how covid and the economic crisis works out, nothing more nothing less

    I don't actually think that's correct. It's a massive issue now, and will be for a while. Will it be the ONLY issue in the 2024 (presumably) General Election? I'd suggest probably not - it's quite a long way ahead.
    If HMG are seen to have mitigated covid economically plus brexit they should be in pole position for 2024.

    I accept if is doing a lot of heavy lifting
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 66,334
    Scott_xP said:

    CorrectHorseBattery said:

    Honestly how is it not obvious Cummings dresses to take the piss

    Indeed, but there are a couple of interesting points.

    1. It takes a LOT of effort to dress as badly as he does. Clearly it's very important to him.
    2. For a back-room boy, he gets himself in the papers a LOT.

    Preening narcissism seems to be a key character trait.
    Maybe he just likes upsetting you
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 39,478
    https://twitter.com/anandMenon1/status/1285134605637627904
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 32,271
    I am not sure in what context it would have been appropriate for this nurse to offer commentary on Dominic Cummings.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 33,442
    Carnyx said:

    Big_G_NorthWales said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Boris Johnson is a frontman who can put together some amusing articles, deliver a good speech but isn't a serious politician. He's been shown up by both Starmer and Sunak on this front and is completely reliant on Cummings to do his job.

    Boris is a shambles and Cummings is a driving force.

    However, Cummings seems to want to turn the liberal elite upside down and they do not like it

    People though will judge Boris and his government on how covid and the economic crisis works out, nothing more nothing less
    Oh?

    I thought there was something called Brexit? Which was more important than anything else, even the economic crisis?
    Any shortcomings of Brexit can now be hidden under the mantle of post-Covid-19 fallout.

    Brexit would have been a rip roaring success had it not been for Coronavirus.
  • contrariancontrarian Posts: 5,818
    Luckyguy1983 said:

    I am not sure in what context it would have been appropriate for this nurse to offer commentary on Dominic Cummings.

    Absolutely. Its a nothingburger. Next.

  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 123,168
    Ladies and gentleman, I've found it, a worse prediction than that Sion Simon piece.

    Here's a top Manchester United fansite chap, at the end of the last season, making a prediction about Liverpool.

    https://twitter.com/Tactical_Times/status/1285255864832741377
  • contrariancontrarian Posts: 5,818
    Mexicanpete said:

    Carnyx said:

    Big_G_NorthWales said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Boris Johnson is a frontman who can put together some amusing articles, deliver a good speech but isn't a serious politician. He's been shown up by both Starmer and Sunak on this front and is completely reliant on Cummings to do his job.

    Boris is a shambles and Cummings is a driving force.

    However, Cummings seems to want to turn the liberal elite upside down and they do not like it

    People though will judge Boris and his government on how covid and the economic crisis works out, nothing more nothing less
    Oh?

    I thought there was something called Brexit? Which was more important than anything else, even the economic crisis?
    Any shortcomings of Brexit can now be hidden under the mantle of post-Covid-19 fallout.

    Brexit would have been a rip roaring success had it not been for Coronavirus.
    Our share of the European recovery fund would have been EUR80bn.

    We won;t have to pay that now!
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 44,774
    Luckyguy1983 said:

    I am not sure in what context it would have been appropriate for this nurse to offer commentary on Dominic Cummings.

    She would have been asked by the journos. And nurses know about, and are very keen on, infection control. There will be specialist public health nurses. Quite legitimate for the head nurse to comment on such issues.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 39,478
    Luckyguy1983 said:

    I am not sure in what context it would have been appropriate for this nurse to offer commentary on Dominic Cummings.

    Did he undermine the public health message of the Government and destroy trust?
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 39,478
    contrarian said:

    Absolutely. Its a nothingburger. Next.

    If it was of no consequence, why was she benched?

    BoZo and Cummings knew it was bad, and didn't want the publicity
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 52,593
    Trump told reporters he would resume holding coronavirus briefings starting at 5 pm ET tomorrow.
  • contrariancontrarian Posts: 5,818
    edited July 2020
    Scott_xP said:

    contrarian said:

    Absolutely. Its a nothingburger. Next.

    If it was of no consequence, why was she benched?

    BoZo and Cummings knew it was bad, and didn't want the publicity
    You didn;t get him with Durham, you won;t get him with this.

    Opinion is turning against health professionals after the PHE death count scandal and Vallance's dire warnings when we dared to start coming out of lockdown,

    Dire warnings which turned out to be a heap of total horsesh8t.

  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 56,314
    IanB2 said:

    Trump told reporters he would resume holding coronavirus briefings starting at 5 pm ET tomorrow.

    Presumably a substitute for rallies.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 39,478
    contrarian said:

    You didn;t get him with Durham, you won;t get him with this.

    This was Durham. Try and keep up...
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 66,334
    contrarian said:

    Scott_xP said:

    contrarian said:

    Absolutely. Its a nothingburger. Next.

    If it was of no consequence, why was she benched?

    BoZo and Cummings knew it was bad, and didn't want the publicity
    You didn;t get him with Durham, you won;t get him with his.

    Opinion is turning against health professionals after the PHE death count scandal and Vallance's dire warnings when we dared to start coming out of lockdown,

    Dire warnings which turned out to be a heap of total horsesh8t.

    Exactly
  • ClippPClippP Posts: 1,983
    Big_G_NorthWales said:

    CorrectHorseBattery said:

    Whilst Big G might be right that it doesn't impact public opinion, it doesn't mean this isn't an absolutely disgraceful story.
    Of course if it was about Labour he'd react in a different way

    Is anyone really surprised and as for labour, maybe if they won an election we could judge their behaviour at that time
    If the Conservatives stopped cheating and lying, perhaps they would. Level playing field and all that.....
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,634
    contrarian said:

    Scott_xP said:

    contrarian said:

    Absolutely. Its a nothingburger. Next.

    If it was of no consequence, why was she benched?

    BoZo and Cummings knew it was bad, and didn't want the publicity
    You didn;t get him with Durham, you won;t get him with this.

    Opinion is turning against health professionals after the PHE death count scandal and Vallance's dire warnings when we dared to start coming out of lockdown,

    Dire warnings which turned out to be a heap of total horsesh8t.

    There has been a significant shift in public opinion on this?
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 66,334
    ClippP said:

    Big_G_NorthWales said:

    CorrectHorseBattery said:

    Whilst Big G might be right that it doesn't impact public opinion, it doesn't mean this isn't an absolutely disgraceful story.
    Of course if it was about Labour he'd react in a different way

    Is anyone really surprised and as for labour, maybe if they won an election we could judge their behaviour at that time
    If the Conservatives stopped cheating and lying, perhaps they would. Level playing field and all that.....
    Really. You need a better argument than that
  • TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,455
    FPT My student loans are at 1.2%.

    Makes the decision easy...
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 39,478
    I must away, but I will just leave this for the fanbois...

    https://twitter.com/mfletchertimes/status/1285250016320327680
  • Fysics_TeacherFysics_Teacher Posts: 6,303
    edited July 2020
    ClippP said:

    Big_G_NorthWales said:

    CorrectHorseBattery said:

    Whilst Big G might be right that it doesn't impact public opinion, it doesn't mean this isn't an absolutely disgraceful story.
    Of course if it was about Labour he'd react in a different way

    Is anyone really surprised and as for labour, maybe if they won an election we could judge their behaviour at that time
    If the Conservatives stopped cheating and lying, perhaps they would. Level playing field and all that.....
    Cheating and lying is not enough. If it were the Lib Dems would still be in government.

    Edit for those who need it: :D
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 123,168
    Arse

    https://twitter.com/verge/status/1285257465848901632
  • Nigel_ForemainNigel_Foremain Posts: 14,851
    Scott_xP said:

    I must away, but I will just leave this for the fanbois...

    https://twitter.com/mfletchertimes/status/1285250016320327680

    As I have mentioned many times before...Johnson has little or no qualities of leadership. Having him as PM right now is like putting Private Pike in charge of the D Day landings.
  • Fysics_TeacherFysics_Teacher Posts: 6,303
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Arse

    https://twitter.com/verge/status/1285257465848901632

    I must admit I hadn’t even heard of it before you mentioned it: looks interesting.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 99,247
    Nigel_Foremain said:

    Scott_xP said:

    I must away, but I will just leave this for the fanbois...

    https://twitter.com/mfletchertimes/status/1285250016320327680

    As I have mentioned many times before...Johnson has little or no qualities of leadership. Having him as PM right now is like putting Private Pike in charge of the D Day landings.
    He clearly has at least one quality of leadership which cannot be denied - the quality to get people to follow him - even if what he does with that quality is not what many of us like.
  • Fysics_TeacherFysics_Teacher Posts: 6,303
    Scott_xP said:

    I must away, but I will just leave this for the fanbois...

    https://twitter.com/mfletchertimes/status/1285250016320327680

    All true.

    Still better than the alternative was in December.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 123,168
    Fysics_Teacher said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Arse

    https://twitter.com/verge/status/1285257465848901632

    I must admit I hadn’t even heard of it before you mentioned it: looks interesting.
    I saw an extended preview of about 5 minutes last year of this and it looked amazing, the fact it is Robert Pattinson who I have fangirled over since I saw him as Cedric Diggory Christoper Nolan adds to excitement about this film.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 32,271
    edited July 2020
    Carnyx said:

    Luckyguy1983 said:

    I am not sure in what context it would have been appropriate for this nurse to offer commentary on Dominic Cummings.

    She would have been asked by the journos. And nurses know about, and are very keen on, infection control. There will be specialist public health nurses. Quite legitimate for the head nurse to comment on such issues.
    It would have been legitimate for her to speak about infection control, but also fairly basic media training to bat away a question about the personal behaviour of a Government advisor. Speaking on the former does not necessitate failure to do the latter. By the way, if she'd offered full-hearted support to Cummings in response to that question, that would also be innaproproate.

  • Fysics_TeacherFysics_Teacher Posts: 6,303
    edited July 2020
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Fysics_Teacher said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Arse

    https://twitter.com/verge/status/1285257465848901632

    I must admit I hadn’t even heard of it before you mentioned it: looks interesting.
    I saw an extended preview of about 5 minutes last year of this and it looked amazing, the fact it is Robert Pattinson who I have fangirled over since I saw him as Cedric Diggory Christoper Nolan adds to excitement about this film.
    I’ll check out the trailer: not that they are always to be trusted of course.

    Edit:
    Having now watched the trailer, it does look very interesting: thanks for the tip!
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 99,247
    Fysics_Teacher said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Fysics_Teacher said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Arse

    https://twitter.com/verge/status/1285257465848901632

    I must admit I hadn’t even heard of it before you mentioned it: looks interesting.
    I saw an extended preview of about 5 minutes last year of this and it looked amazing, the fact it is Robert Pattinson who I have fangirled over since I saw him as Cedric Diggory Christoper Nolan adds to excitement about this film.
    I’ll check out the trailer: not that they are always to be trusted of course.
    I maintain that there should be an award for the best trailer, with a special category for where the film turns out to be really bad.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 123,168
    WHAT A CATCH!
  • Nigel_ForemainNigel_Foremain Posts: 14,851
    contrarian said:

    Scott_xP said:

    contrarian said:

    Absolutely. Its a nothingburger. Next.

    If it was of no consequence, why was she benched?

    BoZo and Cummings knew it was bad, and didn't want the publicity
    You didn;t get him with Durham, you won;t get him with this.

    Opinion is turning against health professionals after the PHE death count scandal and Vallance's dire warnings when we dared to start coming out of lockdown,

    Dire warnings which turned out to be a heap of total horsesh8t.

    Au contraire, Mr Contrarian. He was well and truly "got". It hasn't reversed any polls yet, but for those that want to see a Labour government (I am somewhat on the fence as to whether I want one), Dominic "Emperor's-New-Clothes" Cummings is an asset to their cause.

    Heis almost as much a liability as his boss. Arrogance and hubris guide the way of both monkey and organ grinder in this instance, and it will be arrogance and hubris that does for them both in the end. The drip drip realisation of both their incompetence will dawn on the electorate eventually.
  • Pagan2Pagan2 Posts: 12,226
    Luckyguy1983 said:

    Carnyx said:

    Luckyguy1983 said:

    I am not sure in what context it would have been appropriate for this nurse to offer commentary on Dominic Cummings.

    She would have been asked by the journos. And nurses know about, and are very keen on, infection control. There will be specialist public health nurses. Quite legitimate for the head nurse to comment on such issues.
    It would have been legitimate for her to speak about infection control, but also fairly basic media training to bat away a question about the personal behaviour of a Government advisor. Speaking on the former does not necessitate failure to do the latter. By the way, if she'd offered full-hearted support to Cummings in response to that question, that would also be innaproproate.

    Why the hell is she chief nurse doesnt look like she has been near a damn bed pan in over 3 decades, Just another quangocrat moving from one failure to another by the look of it
  • contrariancontrarian Posts: 5,818
    Fysics_Teacher said:

    Scott_xP said:

    I must away, but I will just leave this for the fanbois...

    https://twitter.com/mfletchertimes/status/1285250016320327680

    All true.

    Still better than the alternative was in December.
    The think that has saved Johnson so far is that he knows he has glaring limitations. Others are taking the policy strain. He does not micro manage much.

  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 19,340
    Nigel_Foremain said:

    Scott_xP said:

    I must away, but I will just leave this for the fanbois...

    https://twitter.com/mfletchertimes/status/1285250016320327680

    As I have mentioned many times before...Johnson has little or no qualities of leadership. Having him as PM right now is like putting Private Pike in charge of the D Day landings.
    Of course he's unsuitable as PM.

    But he's also worked out that, as long as he keeps half the PCP onside, nobody can touch him until 2024. So until then, he can do as he damn well pleases.
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    CorrectHorseBattery said:

    Whilst Big G might be right that it doesn't impact public opinion, it doesn't mean this isn't an absolutely disgraceful story.

    Of course if it was about Labour he'd react in a different way

    You are judging guilt based on post hoc procter hoc
  • CatManCatMan Posts: 3,354
    kle4 said:

    Fysics_Teacher said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Fysics_Teacher said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Arse

    https://twitter.com/verge/status/1285257465848901632

    I must admit I hadn’t even heard of it before you mentioned it: looks interesting.
    I saw an extended preview of about 5 minutes last year of this and it looked amazing, the fact it is Robert Pattinson who I have fangirled over since I saw him as Cedric Diggory Christoper Nolan adds to excitement about this film.
    I’ll check out the trailer: not that they are always to be trusted of course.
    I maintain that there should be an award for the best trailer, with a special category for where the film turns out to be really bad.
    Sucker Punch?
  • Alphabet_SoupAlphabet_Soup Posts: 3,683
    nichomar said:

    Diagnosticados últimas 24 horas: 685 Diagnosticados últimos 7 días: 8297 Diagnosticados últimos 14 días: 12879 Incidencia Acumulada (IA): 27,39 Número reproductivo básico (Rt): 0,9
    Fallecidos:28.422
    Fallecidos últimos 7 días: 9
    Recuperados:18-05-2020150.376
    Hospitalizados: 126.025 Hospitalizados últimos 7 días: 237 UCI: 11.730 UCI últimos 7 días: 15
    PCR totales: 2.536.234
    PCR/1000 hab: 53,8 Incremento capacidad PCR última semana: 14%

    What are the UK doing to pre empt the very likely similar situation arising.

    We're sending all our drunken idiots to Spain.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 27,067
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Ladies and gentleman, I've found it, a worse prediction than that Sion Simon piece.

    Here's a top Manchester United fansite chap, at the end of the last season, making a prediction about Liverpool.

    https://twitter.com/Tactical_Times/status/1285255864832741377

    Got himself spread around the net, though...
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 99,247
    Stuartinromford said:

    Nigel_Foremain said:

    Scott_xP said:

    I must away, but I will just leave this for the fanbois...

    https://twitter.com/mfletchertimes/status/1285250016320327680

    As I have mentioned many times before...Johnson has little or no qualities of leadership. Having him as PM right now is like putting Private Pike in charge of the D Day landings.
    Of course he's unsuitable as PM.

    But he's also worked out that, as long as he keeps half the PCP onside, nobody can touch him until 2024. So until then, he can do as he damn well pleases.
    Not quite. I mean, almost certainly safe no matter what from the PCP, but if he pisses the people off enough then it might well weaken the PCP's backing - it's not as though many of them were huge fans, they turned to him pretty late in a very difficut moment - and then he could not do what he pleases. However, at the moment he has not lost the support of the people either, though all things happen in the end.
  • Pagan2Pagan2 Posts: 12,226
    Alphabet_Soup said:

    nichomar said:

    Diagnosticados últimas 24 horas: 685 Diagnosticados últimos 7 días: 8297 Diagnosticados últimos 14 días: 12879 Incidencia Acumulada (IA): 27,39 Número reproductivo básico (Rt): 0,9
    Fallecidos:28.422
    Fallecidos últimos 7 días: 9
    Recuperados:18-05-2020150.376
    Hospitalizados: 126.025 Hospitalizados últimos 7 días: 237 UCI: 11.730 UCI últimos 7 días: 15
    PCR totales: 2.536.234
    PCR/1000 hab: 53,8 Incremento capacidad PCR última semana: 14%

    What are the UK doing to pre empt the very likely similar situation arising.

    We're sending all our drunken idiots to Spain.
    the labour party conference is in barcelona this year?
  • Nigel_ForemainNigel_Foremain Posts: 14,851
    Fysics_Teacher said:

    Scott_xP said:

    I must away, but I will just leave this for the fanbois...

    https://twitter.com/mfletchertimes/status/1285250016320327680

    All true.

    Still better than the alternative was in December.
    Which is the only reason he is there. A choice of clown versus dangerous Marxist and the electorate thought a bit of a laugh would be better. What a choice it was!
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 32,271
    edited July 2020
    Scott_xP said:

    Luckyguy1983 said:

    I am not sure in what context it would have been appropriate for this nurse to offer commentary on Dominic Cummings.

    Did he undermine the public health message of the Government and destroy trust?
    'I'm not here to offer commentary on the actions of individuals. Let's discuss what I am here to talk about, which is...'
  • Fysics_TeacherFysics_Teacher Posts: 6,303
    Pagan2 said:

    Luckyguy1983 said:

    Carnyx said:

    Luckyguy1983 said:

    I am not sure in what context it would have been appropriate for this nurse to offer commentary on Dominic Cummings.

    She would have been asked by the journos. And nurses know about, and are very keen on, infection control. There will be specialist public health nurses. Quite legitimate for the head nurse to comment on such issues.
    It would have been legitimate for her to speak about infection control, but also fairly basic media training to bat away a question about the personal behaviour of a Government advisor. Speaking on the former does not necessitate failure to do the latter. By the way, if she'd offered full-hearted support to Cummings in response to that question, that would also be innaproproate.

    Why the hell is she chief nurse doesnt look like she has been near a damn bed pan in over 3 decades, Just another quangocrat moving from one failure to another by the look of it
    Nurses don’t do that sort of thing any more.
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    HYUFD said:

    https://twitter.com/PickardJE/status/1284846113003110400?s=20

    No it’s how someone who doesn’t care what he looks like dresses when he wants to go for a long walk in the sun

    Sun hat: check
    Comfortable shoes: check
    Walking stick: check
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    OnlyLivingBoy said:

    OnlyLivingBoy said:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/LeonjWard/status/1284042750741143552?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1284042750741143552|twgr^&ref_url=https://dorseteye.com/i-have-nothing-personal-against-chris-grayling-he-then-cuts-his-heart-out-live-on-tv/

    I thought the link would show up better than this, apologies. It is John Bercow (I know how much people like him on here) commenting in somewhat unfavorable terms on the subject of Chris Grayling.
    Who’s John Bercow?
  • Fysics_TeacherFysics_Teacher Posts: 6,303
    kle4 said:

    Fysics_Teacher said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Fysics_Teacher said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Arse

    https://twitter.com/verge/status/1285257465848901632

    I must admit I hadn’t even heard of it before you mentioned it: looks interesting.
    I saw an extended preview of about 5 minutes last year of this and it looked amazing, the fact it is Robert Pattinson who I have fangirled over since I saw him as Cedric Diggory Christoper Nolan adds to excitement about this film.
    I’ll check out the trailer: not that they are always to be trusted of course.
    I maintain that there should be an award for the best trailer, with a special category for where the film turns out to be really bad.
    It sometimes goes the other way: the trailer for the original Paddington was rubbish.
  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    Scott_xP said:

    contrarian said:

    You didn;t get him with Durham, you won;t get him with this.

    This was Durham. Try and keep up...
    Yes still banging on about the same old s**t. Give it up, its boring now.
  • Pagan2Pagan2 Posts: 12,226
    Fysics_Teacher said:

    Pagan2 said:

    Luckyguy1983 said:

    Carnyx said:

    Luckyguy1983 said:

    I am not sure in what context it would have been appropriate for this nurse to offer commentary on Dominic Cummings.

    She would have been asked by the journos. And nurses know about, and are very keen on, infection control. There will be specialist public health nurses. Quite legitimate for the head nurse to comment on such issues.
    It would have been legitimate for her to speak about infection control, but also fairly basic media training to bat away a question about the personal behaviour of a Government advisor. Speaking on the former does not necessitate failure to do the latter. By the way, if she'd offered full-hearted support to Cummings in response to that question, that would also be innaproproate.

    Why the hell is she chief nurse doesnt look like she has been near a damn bed pan in over 3 decades, Just another quangocrat moving from one failure to another by the look of it
    Nurses don’t do that sort of thing any more.
    Well whatever they do doesnt matter....think of your own line of work, now think of someone who hasn't done frontline in it for the last 30 years. We all know they are spouting bollocks
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 66,334
    kle4 said:

    Nigel_Foremain said:

    Scott_xP said:

    I must away, but I will just leave this for the fanbois...

    https://twitter.com/mfletchertimes/status/1285250016320327680

    As I have mentioned many times before...Johnson has little or no qualities of leadership. Having him as PM right now is like putting Private Pike in charge of the D Day landings.
    He clearly has at least one quality of leadership which cannot be denied - the quality to get people to follow him - even if what he does with that quality is not what many of us like.
    Fair comment
  • nichomarnichomar Posts: 7,483
    Alphabet_Soup said:

    nichomar said:

    Diagnosticados últimas 24 horas: 685 Diagnosticados últimos 7 días: 8297 Diagnosticados últimos 14 días: 12879 Incidencia Acumulada (IA): 27,39 Número reproductivo básico (Rt): 0,9
    Fallecidos:28.422
    Fallecidos últimos 7 días: 9
    Recuperados:18-05-2020150.376
    Hospitalizados: 126.025 Hospitalizados últimos 7 días: 237 UCI: 11.730 UCI últimos 7 días: 15
    PCR totales: 2.536.234
    PCR/1000 hab: 53,8 Incremento capacidad PCR última semana: 14%

    What are the UK doing to pre empt the very likely similar situation arising.

    We're sending all our drunken idiots to Spain.
    But they will come back, actually Benidorm is not badly effected (Yet) , the problem is mainly up north but it’s roots are in young people partying and then spreading it to their families.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 99,247
    edited July 2020
    Charles said:

    HYUFD said:

    https://twitter.com/PickardJE/status/1284846113003110400?s=20

    No it’s how someone who doesn’t care what he looks like dresses when he wants to go for a long walk in the sun

    Sun hat: check
    Comfortable shoes: check
    Walking stick: check
    Yeah right. The slovenly dress, the reported frequent cursing and 'shocking' statements, the obvious leaks to ensure stories stay on him and his words, it all fits the image of a childish rebel, someone who so doesn't care what others think that they feel the need to demonstrate how they don't care what others think all the time, which is to say they clearly do care what others think.

    It's a fine line, to be sure, and opinions will vary, but like art and pornography I think most can tell the difference even when hard to quantify it sometimes.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 99,247
    edited July 2020
    Fysics_Teacher said:

    kle4 said:

    Fysics_Teacher said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Fysics_Teacher said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Arse

    https://twitter.com/verge/status/1285257465848901632

    I must admit I hadn’t even heard of it before you mentioned it: looks interesting.
    I saw an extended preview of about 5 minutes last year of this and it looked amazing, the fact it is Robert Pattinson who I have fangirled over since I saw him as Cedric Diggory Christoper Nolan adds to excitement about this film.
    I’ll check out the trailer: not that they are always to be trusted of course.
    I maintain that there should be an award for the best trailer, with a special category for where the film turns out to be really bad.
    It sometimes goes the other way: the trailer for the original Paddington was rubbish.
    True comment. I hated the trailer for Mad Max Fury Road.
  • SeaShantyIrish2SeaShantyIrish2 Posts: 17,559
    "Sucker Punch"

    Isn't this what Trumpky supporters imbibe, when they "drink the Kool-aid"?
  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    Charles said:

    OnlyLivingBoy said:

    OnlyLivingBoy said:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/LeonjWard/status/1284042750741143552?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1284042750741143552|twgr^&ref_url=https://dorseteye.com/i-have-nothing-personal-against-chris-grayling-he-then-cuts-his-heart-out-live-on-tv/

    I thought the link would show up better than this, apologies. It is John Bercow (I know how much people like him on here) commenting in somewhat unfavorable terms on the subject of Chris Grayling.
    Who’s John Bercow?
    Who's Chris Grayling?
  • Fysics_TeacherFysics_Teacher Posts: 6,303
    Pagan2 said:

    Fysics_Teacher said:

    Pagan2 said:

    Luckyguy1983 said:

    Carnyx said:

    Luckyguy1983 said:

    I am not sure in what context it would have been appropriate for this nurse to offer commentary on Dominic Cummings.

    She would have been asked by the journos. And nurses know about, and are very keen on, infection control. There will be specialist public health nurses. Quite legitimate for the head nurse to comment on such issues.
    It would have been legitimate for her to speak about infection control, but also fairly basic media training to bat away a question about the personal behaviour of a Government advisor. Speaking on the former does not necessitate failure to do the latter. By the way, if she'd offered full-hearted support to Cummings in response to that question, that would also be innaproproate.

    Why the hell is she chief nurse doesnt look like she has been near a damn bed pan in over 3 decades, Just another quangocrat moving from one failure to another by the look of it
    Nurses don’t do that sort of thing any more.
    Well whatever they do doesnt matter....think of your own line of work, now think of someone who hasn't done frontline in it for the last 30 years. We all know they are spouting bollocks
    But you are not allowed to tell the Head that to their face...
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Arse

    https://twitter.com/verge/status/1285257465848901632

    When is the new batman movie being released? My home gets blown up in the opening scenes 😂
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 44,774
    Luckyguy1983 said:

    Carnyx said:

    Luckyguy1983 said:

    I am not sure in what context it would have been appropriate for this nurse to offer commentary on Dominic Cummings.

    She would have been asked by the journos. And nurses know about, and are very keen on, infection control. There will be specialist public health nurses. Quite legitimate for the head nurse to comment on such issues.
    It would have been legitimate for her to speak about infection control, but also fairly basic media training to bat away a question about the personal behaviour of a Government advisor. Speaking on the former does not necessitate failure to do the latter. By the way, if she'd offered full-hearted support to Cummings in response to that question, that would also be innaproproate.

    And if she were asked whether doing what Mr C did - but anonymised - was good infection control?

  • Nigel_ForemainNigel_Foremain Posts: 14,851
    Charles said:

    HYUFD said:

    https://twitter.com/PickardJE/status/1284846113003110400?s=20

    No it’s how someone who doesn’t care what he looks like dresses when he wants to go for a long walk in the sun

    Sun hat: check
    Comfortable shoes: check
    Walking stick: check
    Does anyone not look at that and think "what a twat"? Even his wife must think it.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,634
    Charles said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Arse

    https://twitter.com/verge/status/1285257465848901632

    When is the new batman movie being released? My home gets blown up in the opening scenes 😂
    That's why you always keep a spare.
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