Interesting. When I was put on the Treasury Select Committee, a rival to the favoured Labour chair asked for my support, and I said I'd consider it. The Chief Whip, Nick Brown, asked me in and pleaded with me to support the favoured candidate (which I eventually did). It wasn't strictly proper for him to have a view at all, but he certainly didn't threaten expulsion if I didn't do what he said. In fact I don't remember any examples of that threat being made to anyone.
Lewis is a cold warrior of the old school - I'd expect him to be stern on China. But he's also an independent mind, and the Government seems unkeen on those. Ironically, this restores the tradition (hitherto respected by both parties) that no one party has a majority on that committee.
Lewis didn’t just vote for another candidate. He conspired with the opposition and broke ranks
I think you mean he followed the rules and allowed the committee to choose its own chairman rather than being dictated to by the Government.
In an ideal world the Speaker would be calling Johnson to parliament and asking him to explain his unparliamentary behaviour.
According to the BBC he lied to the Chief Whip. A parliamentary party only works as a collaboration. If someone doesn’t play by the rules they can’t be in the party
Oh maybe that's a semi reasonable party management matter. But even if so a lie that arose because of their stupidity in making a power play they then lost. If theyd not tried to force the situation theyd not have been in a situation where a colleague ended up lying, and theyd probably have a chair less likely to be hostile.
True. Grayling is an idiot. I met him a couple of times during the Brexit era and he said some utterly inappropriate things for a cabinet minister to say
Interesting. When I was put on the Treasury Select Committee, a rival to the favoured Labour chair asked for my support, and I said I'd consider it. The Chief Whip, Nick Brown, asked me in and pleaded with me to support the favoured candidate (which I eventually did). It wasn't strictly proper for him to have a view at all, but he certainly didn't threaten expulsion if I didn't do what he said. In fact I don't remember any examples of that threat being made to anyone.
Lewis is a cold warrior of the old school - I'd expect him to be stern on China. But he's also an independent mind, and the Government seems unkeen on those. Ironically, this restores the tradition (hitherto respected by both parties) that no one party has a majority on that committee.
Lewis didn’t just vote for another candidate. He conspired with the opposition and broke ranks
I think you mean he followed the rules and allowed the committee to choose its own chairman rather than being dictated to by the Government.
In an ideal world the Speaker would be calling Johnson to parliament and asking him to explain his unparliamentary behaviour.
According to the BBC he lied to the Chief Whip. A parliamentary party only works as a collaboration. If someone doesn’t play by the rules they can’t be in the party
If I had my cynical hat on, I'd say "the government has claimed that Lewis lied to the Conservatives Chief Whip".
Interesting. When I was put on the Treasury Select Committee, a rival to the favoured Labour chair asked for my support, and I said I'd consider it. The Chief Whip, Nick Brown, asked me in and pleaded with me to support the favoured candidate (which I eventually did). It wasn't strictly proper for him to have a view at all, but he certainly didn't threaten expulsion if I didn't do what he said. In fact I don't remember any examples of that threat being made to anyone.
Lewis is a cold warrior of the old school - I'd expect him to be stern on China. But he's also an independent mind, and the Government seems unkeen on those. Ironically, this restores the tradition (hitherto respected by both parties) that no one party has a majority on that committee.
Lewis didn’t just vote for another candidate. He conspired with the opposition and broke ranks
I think you mean he followed the rules and allowed the committee to choose its own chairman rather than being dictated to by the Government.
In an ideal world the Speaker would be calling Johnson to parliament and asking him to explain his unparliamentary behaviour.
According to the BBC he lied to the Chief Whip. A parliamentary party only works as a collaboration. If someone doesn’t play by the rules they can’t be in the party
If I had my cynical hat on, I'd say "the government has claimed that Lewis lied to the Conservatives Chief Whip".
Wonder IF CCW will give the "facts" about this to the House? Would NOT bet on that!
Average global deaths per million 75.1, South Africa deaths per million 75, so actually still fractionally below the global average due to its relatively low average life expectancy anyway
Interesting. When I was put on the Treasury Select Committee, a rival to the favoured Labour chair asked for my support, and I said I'd consider it. The Chief Whip, Nick Brown, asked me in and pleaded with me to support the favoured candidate (which I eventually did). It wasn't strictly proper for him to have a view at all, but he certainly didn't threaten expulsion if I didn't do what he said. In fact I don't remember any examples of that threat being made to anyone.
Lewis is a cold warrior of the old school - I'd expect him to be stern on China. But he's also an independent mind, and the Government seems unkeen on those. Ironically, this restores the tradition (hitherto respected by both parties) that no one party has a majority on that committee.
Lewis didn’t just vote for another candidate. He conspired with the opposition and broke ranks
I think you mean he followed the rules and allowed the committee to choose its own chairman rather than being dictated to by the Government.
In an ideal world the Speaker would be calling Johnson to parliament and asking him to explain his unparliamentary behaviour.
According to the BBC he lied to the Chief Whip. A parliamentary party only works as a collaboration. If someone doesn’t play by the rules they can’t be in the party
Oh maybe that's a semi reasonable party management matter. But even if so a lie that arose because of their stupidity in making a power play they then lost. If theyd not tried to force the situation theyd not have been in a situation where a colleague ended up lying, and theyd probably have a chair less likely to be hostile.
True. Grayling is an idiot. I met him a couple of times during the Brexit era and he said some utterly inappropriate things for a cabinet minister to say
I also remember way back the Koreans basically said there was a fair element of luck to their initial virus response because they had recently done a practice run based on SARS instead of the Flu as they normally would have done. The Oxford vaccine will be the same bit of luck because they basically just adapted their MERS research to COVID which gave them a gigantic headstart. What has followed has not been luck, but having a lot of the heavy lifting done by trying to create a vaccine for MERS means we might see the back of this by the end of the year instead of the 2-3 year timeframe that is usually required.
A close relative of mine is one of the volunteers on the Oxford trial (the UK one). She's had a vaccine, but of course doesn't know if she's had THE vaccine.
Interesting. When I was put on the Treasury Select Committee, a rival to the favoured Labour chair asked for my support, and I said I'd consider it. The Chief Whip, Nick Brown, asked me in and pleaded with me to support the favoured candidate (which I eventually did). It wasn't strictly proper for him to have a view at all, but he certainly didn't threaten expulsion if I didn't do what he said. In fact I don't remember any examples of that threat being made to anyone.
Lewis is a cold warrior of the old school - I'd expect him to be stern on China. But he's also an independent mind, and the Government seems unkeen on those. Ironically, this restores the tradition (hitherto respected by both parties) that no one party has a majority on that committee.
Lewis didn’t just vote for another candidate. He conspired with the opposition and broke ranks
I think you mean he followed the rules and allowed the committee to choose its own chairman rather than being dictated to by the Government.
In an ideal world the Speaker would be calling Johnson to parliament and asking him to explain his unparliamentary behaviour.
According to the BBC he lied to the Chief Whip. A parliamentary party only works as a collaboration. If someone doesn’t play by the rules they can’t be in the party
If I had my cynical hat on, I'd say "the government has claimed that Lewis lied to the Conservatives Chief Whip".
Which is of course identical in presentation to the BBC saying it when Laura K is involved.
Average global deaths per million 75.1, South Africa deaths per million 75, so actually still fractionally below the global average due to its relatively low average life expectancy anyway
Yeah, but South Africa is on the left hand side of the curve with cases exploding, while (for example) we're on the right hand side, with them in decline. It only makes sense to compare countries at similar stages of outbreaks.
I wonder how many letters Graham Brady has now in his safe?
What is Gove? Oh, Brady don't hurt me Don't hurt me No more
Lay Brady, lay Stay with your man a while Why wait any longer for the world to begin You can have your cake and eat it too Why wait any longer for the one you Gove When he's standing in front of you
Average global deaths per million 75.1, South Africa deaths per million 75, so actually still fractionally below the global average due to its relatively low average life expectancy anyway
Yeah, but South Africa is on the left hand side of the curve with cases exploding, while (for example) we're on the right hand side, with them in decline. It only makes sense to compare countries at similar stages of outbreaks.
South Africa cases 311,049, deaths 4,452, a death rate of 1.4%.
UK cases 291,911, deaths 45,053, a death rate of 14%.
Average global deaths per million 75.1, South Africa deaths per million 75, so actually still fractionally below the global average due to its relatively low average life expectancy anyway
Yeah, but South Africa is on the left hand side of the curve with cases exploding, while (for example) we're on the right hand side, with them in decline. It only makes sense to compare countries at similar stages of outbreaks.
South Africa cases 311,049, deaths 4,452, a death rate of 1.4%.
UK cases 291,911, deaths 45,053, a death rate of 14%.
That's exactly what you'd expect for a country on the left hand side of the chart, where people have been diagnosed, but haven't died.
If you have lots of people being diagnosed with the disease now, quite a few of them will - in the future - die of it. This is not a controversial point, I would have thought.
Julian Lewis must be absolutely p1ssing himself laughing at today's coup and Cummings' petulent withdrawal of the whip.
The bloke's pushing 70 and on his last hurrah, so almost certainly doesn't give a flying f*** about not getting the whips' newsletter. Even if he does, he's now in charge of a Committee who can do serious damage to the Government if he wants to ally with Labour and the SNP, which is a hell of a good position to be if he wants the whip back.
Classic Dom - shafted by a nobody backbencher and has a pointless tantrum about it.
Average global deaths per million 75.1, South Africa deaths per million 75, so actually still fractionally below the global average due to its relatively low average life expectancy anyway
Yeah, but South Africa is on the left hand side of the curve with cases exploding, while (for example) we're on the right hand side, with them in decline. It only makes sense to compare countries at similar stages of outbreaks.
South Africa cases 311,049, deaths 4,452, a death rate of 1.4%.
UK cases 291,911, deaths 45,053, a death rate of 14%.
That's exactly what you'd expect for a country on the left hand side of the chart, where people have been diagnosed, but haven't died.
If you have lots of people being diagnosed with the disease now, quite a few of them will - in the future - die of it. This is not a controversial point, I would have thought.
No it isn't given South Africa already has more diagnosed cases than the UK you would expect it to have far more deaths, instead it has far fewer deaths than the UK.
Average global deaths per million 75.1, South Africa deaths per million 75, so actually still fractionally below the global average due to its relatively low average life expectancy anyway
Yeah, but South Africa is on the left hand side of the curve with cases exploding, while (for example) we're on the right hand side, with them in decline. It only makes sense to compare countries at similar stages of outbreaks.
South Africa cases 311,049, deaths 4,452, a death rate of 1.4%.
UK cases 291,911, deaths 45,053, a death rate of 14%.
That's exactly what you'd expect for a country on the left hand side of the chart, where people have been diagnosed, but haven't died.
If you have lots of people being diagnosed with the disease now, quite a few of them will - in the future - die of it. This is not a controversial point, I would have thought.
No it isn't given South Africa already has more diagnosed cases than the UK you would expect it to have far more deaths, instead it has far fewer deaths than the UK.
South Africa has cases rising sharply. We have cases falling. You would expect, therefore, given the delay between infection and death, to see South Africa's death rate ride in the future.
Its probably time to consider some kind of GOP effort to ease Trump out before election day.
Its a 2-1 shot that it will be tried, still an outsider of two of course, but a lot shorter than it was two weeks ago.
Is that your opinion of the probability, or is it a market price? If the latter, how do they define the outcome - simply as the Republican nominee being somebody else on 3 November?
I read a pre-publication copy of Mary Trump's book a while back. She comes across as deeply emotionally honest, unpolished, and a kind of opposite of her uncle, but there was no knockout punch. The New York tax case may possibly hurt him a lot though. He was very anti NYC afterwards. As for the convention, I wonder whether there will even be a physical one at all.
Average global deaths per million 75.1, South Africa deaths per million 75, so actually still fractionally below the global average due to its relatively low average life expectancy anyway
Yeah, but South Africa is on the left hand side of the curve with cases exploding, while (for example) we're on the right hand side, with them in decline. It only makes sense to compare countries at similar stages of outbreaks.
South Africa cases 311,049, deaths 4,452, a death rate of 1.4%.
UK cases 291,911, deaths 45,053, a death rate of 14%.
That's exactly what you'd expect for a country on the left hand side of the chart, where people have been diagnosed, but haven't died.
If you have lots of people being diagnosed with the disease now, quite a few of them will - in the future - die of it. This is not a controversial point, I would have thought.
No it isn't given South Africa already has more diagnosed cases than the UK you would expect it to have far more deaths, instead it has far fewer deaths than the UK.
South Africa has cases rising sharply. We have cases falling. You would expect, therefore, given the delay between infection and death, to see South Africa's death rate ride in the future.
On death rate per million we will remain far higher than South Africa is, simply because we have far more over 70s and over 80s than they do
Seriously though, this Twitter jack could have been really nasty. Imagine if they’d used Trump’s account to announce he was biking China or something?
Interesting they did NOT hack Trumpsky. Professional courtesy, one crook to another? OR Trumpers are at heart of the hack?
Just a bunch of scammers who could be based anywhere. Perhaps they just assumed that nobody would believe anything coming from Trump.
Such a wasted opportunity. With a bit more subtlety they could have caused mayhem.
It looks like they've managed to do password resets to new email addresses.
As this is a "for money" attack by people with patience and resources, my money is on this being a North Korean operation.
My first thought was China in response to the Huawei development, but you may well be right. North Korea is said to be highly capable at both amassing and laundering bitcoins.
Its probably time to consider some kind of GOP effort to ease Trump out before election day.
Its a 2-1 shot that it will be tried, still an outsider of two of course, but a lot shorter than it was two weeks ago.
Is that your opinion of the probability, or is it a market price? If the latter, how do they define the outcome - simply as the Republican nominee being somebody else on 3 November?
I read a pre-publication copy of Mary Trump's book a while back. She comes across as deeply emotionally honest, unpolished, and a kind of opposite of her uncle, but there was no knockout punch. The New York tax case may possibly hurt him a lot though. He was very anti NYC afterwards. As for the convention, I wonder whether there will even be a physical one at all.
Trump is 1.07 to be nominated at the RNC (due in August) on Betfair.
Trump is 1/10 to be GOP candidate on election day, with Ladbrokes, and 1/16 to be GOP nominee.
Julian Lewis must be absolutely p1ssing himself laughing at today's coup and Cummings' petulent withdrawal of the whip.
The bloke's pushing 70 and on his last hurrah, so almost certainly doesn't give a flying f*** about not getting the whips' newsletter. Even if he does, he's now in charge of a Committee who can do serious damage to the Government if he wants to ally with Labour and the SNP, which is a hell of a good position to be if he wants the whip back.
Classic Dom - shafted by a nobody backbencher and has a pointless tantrum about it.
Maybe Dom planned the committee kerfuffle as a dead cat to distract from the Cabinet row about whether you need to wear a mask to buy a Pret sandwich (yes, Truss, Hancock & Sunak; no, Gove & No 10).
Seriously though, this Twitter jack could have been really nasty. Imagine if they’d used Trump’s account to announce he was biking China or something?
Interesting they did NOT hack Trumpsky. Professional courtesy, one crook to another? OR Trumpers are at heart of the hack?
Just a bunch of scammers who could be based anywhere. Perhaps they just assumed that nobody would believe anything coming from Trump.
Such a wasted opportunity. With a bit more subtlety they could have caused mayhem.
It looks like they've managed to do password resets to new email addresses.
As this is a "for money" attack by people with patience and resources, my money is on this being a North Korean operation.
My first thought was China in response to the Huawei development, but you may well be right. North Korea is said to be highly capable at both amassing and laundering bitcoins.
Possibly the scammers skipped Trump because as an active (and personal, not delegated to a committee) tweeter, the President might have discovered the password change before the scam could take effect.
The two aspects about this which really bug me and I'm sure others are:
1. Why NOW and not 3 or 4 months ago when the number of deaths arising from Covid-19 was many, many times the very much lower and still declining rate we are now seeing?
2. Why is the compulsory wearing of face masks stated as continuing for the "FORESEEABLE FUTURE"? What does this mean exactly in the sense of what has to happen for this requirement to be relaxed? Does the Government perhaps have some very concerning information about the future likely spread of this disease about which it is not telling us? It all seems very suspicious.
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@Richard_Nabavi glad to hear that.
Probably a record in new cases, too
Such a wasted opportunity. With a bit more subtlety they could have caused mayhem.
It looks like they've managed to do password resets to new email addresses.
Sinister rebounds in Israel, HK, Australia, etc, as well. It's tenacious.
Global covid deaths per million 75.2, India deaths per million just 18
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/?utm_campaign=homeAdvegas1?
BUT somehow "benign" (even semi) and Trumpsky just do NOT go together,
Stay with your man a while
Why wait any longer for the world to begin
You can have your cake and eat it too
Why wait any longer for the one you Gove
When he's standing in front of you
UK cases 291,911, deaths 45,053, a death rate of 14%.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/?utm_campaign=homeAdvegas1
If you have lots of people being diagnosed with the disease now, quite a few of them will - in the future - die of it. This is not a controversial point, I would have thought.
The bloke's pushing 70 and on his last hurrah, so almost certainly doesn't give a flying f*** about not getting the whips' newsletter. Even if he does, he's now in charge of a Committee who can do serious damage to the Government if he wants to ally with Labour and the SNP, which is a hell of a good position to be if he wants the whip back.
Classic Dom - shafted by a nobody backbencher and has a pointless tantrum about it.
I read a pre-publication copy of Mary Trump's book a while back. She comes across as deeply emotionally honest, unpolished, and a kind of opposite of her uncle, but there was no knockout punch. The New York tax case may possibly hurt him a lot though. He was very anti NYC afterwards. As for the convention, I wonder whether there will even be a physical one at all.
Trump is 1/10 to be GOP candidate on election day, with Ladbrokes, and 1/16 to be GOP nominee.
1. Why NOW and not 3 or 4 months ago when the number of deaths arising from Covid-19 was many, many times the very much lower and still declining rate we are now seeing?
2. Why is the compulsory wearing of face masks stated as continuing for the "FORESEEABLE FUTURE"? What does this mean exactly in the sense of what has to happen for this requirement to be relaxed? Does the Government perhaps have some very concerning information about the future likely spread of this disease about which it is not telling us? It all seems very suspicious.
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