I find this amazing from Mr Smithson, given the constant attacks on TMAy on here and elsewhere. Why is she suddenly wonderful. Is it because she is useful as the means by which to attack Boris?
OR might it be, that she was - ahem - disappointing as PM but much better on the backbenches. Kind of like John Quincey Adams was a so-so president but afterwords a brilliant congressman.
I also love this bit: "Africa during the Moor civilisation was well respected, with many conquests and contributions towards European culture"
Not only is this illiterate, it also references a period in time when people in north Africa - "the Moor civilisation" (sic) - were actually enslaving white Europeans, including Britons.
It's lots of stuff. One of the central tenets is systemic racism: the idea that white societies are intrinsically racist, by definition, and white people themselves are always racist, even if you cannot see it, because of their white privilege.
It's a toxix concept, which divides everyone, and teaching it to kids is just mind-blowing
That letter from that head teacher is beyond belief. Where do you begin with this venomous nonsense?
Ok, so just a name for a strand of whatever?
No actual 'theory'?
Daftness really is independent of skin tone.
Kids can be safely taught all sorts of nonsense - they really are going to be able to decide. Admittedly some thoughts stick a bit. For example, somehow, I associate 'Harvest Festival' with tinned food. (We tipped up as children in a line to hand over our tins of beans)
Perhaps in a similar way the colour of peoples skins isn't invisible to me. I do see it, and I do react differently. Mainly I'm interested in their stories. A mate of mine from work was from Zimbabwe - what stories he may have heard from his ancestors.
The human race is one, but the stories are many. The stories are important - good, bad, or whatever.
I spent 13 yrs in the Civil Service and left after I had been given a temporary promotion to set up a new Dept when, after finishing the job, they took my promotion away from me and gave the job of running the Dept to a time serving idiot two grades above my permanent grade. Driving me out was the best thing the Service ever did for me.
SO is that when you became a freelance grammarian & curmudgeon?
It's a bit early in the day for you to be at it. Abstinence my dear chap, abstinence.
Indeed. To say Remain was really bad, you have to believe it was led by clueless people. It was not. Cameron and Osborne have their faults, but they are far from stupid.
The main sin of Remain was probably complacency (always a problem with Cameron). They thought they were going to be facing a campaign led by Nigel Farage, Bill Cash and John Redwood, which would indeed have been a walkover; Instead they got Dom Cummings, Michael Gove and Boris Johnson.
They didn't readjust quickly enough. They didn't anticipate problems.
It wasn't complacency, Cameron worked his socks off. However, he was trying to ensure that the Conservative Party didn't destroy itself in the process, so he countermanded some of the attacks on Boris, Gove etc which the Remain campaign wanted to run. An admirable scruple, but unfortunately as it turned out a foolish one, helping both to lose the referendum and ultimately to destroy the very thing he was trying to preserve.
Tim Shipman's book on this really is a masterpiece of political instant history.
The thing that astonished me about the Remain campaign was that it was almost completely negative. I kept waiting for the Remain party political broadcast which featured rousing evocations of European heritage and music in order to make people feel proud of being part of the continent. It never happened. I realise now that it probably would have offended the nostrums of political correctness to do that type of broadcast.
I'm not sure that would have worked, in the way it did (sort of) in 1975.
The trouble was that far too many hearts had been lost on the EU over the preceding 25 years.
It was no use just blaming British tabloids for that, as far too many European politicians (even today) do channelling the self-awareness of Hillary Clinton.
It was their own rhetoric and action that did for it.
Yes. Think of the damage Blair did with a decade of posturing at EU summits for short-term domestic political gain, all the nonsense about "battling for Britain" over and over. He did nothing to create a sense of a common endeavour.
If you create an us and them climate why should you be surprised that people will decide to walk away from it?
The Government should simply ban everyone - everywhere - from using racially charged rhetoric like "white privilege" in the state school sector, in the same way they insist on inclusive teaching of sex education in islamic schools.
If they don't the wind will be sown - and we'll all reap the whirlwind.
I find this amazing from Mr Smithson, given the constant attacks on TMAy on here and elsewhere. Why is she suddenly wonderful. Is it because she is useful as the means by which to attack Boris?
I think it perfectly consistent.
Accepting Mrs May's criticism of Mr Johnson as valid and legitimate doesn't mean one suddenly considers Mrs May's premiership to be anything other than disappointing.
(Postal ballots could cause there to be no result on the night).
Trump can refuse to concede till the last ballot is counted if he likes. Just delays the inevitable. If he refuses to leave the Oval Office once he's lost he'll be heading out in cuffs.
The Electoral College will meet and elect the President, who will be sworn in on 20th Jan - regardless of anything a losing incumbent might try and do to get in the way.
Famously, every Clinton staffer in the WH removed the “W” key from their computer keyboard on the way out. It didn’t stop the White House from having a bunch of new keyboards delivered the next day.
Too bad the removal of Ws was NOT permanent; would have precluded the Iraq _ar.
I also love this bit: "Africa during the Moor civilisation was well respected, with many conquests and contributions towards European culture"
Not only is this illiterate, it also references a period in time when people in north Africa - "the Moor civilisation" (sic) - were actually enslaving white Europeans, including Britons.
I find this amazing from Mr Smithson, given the constant attacks on TMAy on here and elsewhere. Why is she suddenly wonderful. Is it because she is useful as the means by which to attack Boris?
OR might it be, that she was - ahem - disappointing as PM but much better on the backbenches. Kind of like John Quincey Adams was a so-so president but afterwords a brilliant congressman.
quite, but its interesting nevertheless to use her to attack Boris... Its a repercussion of hanging on to Cummings.
I also love this bit: "Africa during the Moor civilisation was well respected, with many conquests and contributions towards European culture"
Not only is this illiterate, it also references a period in time when people in north Africa - "the Moor civilisation" (sic) - were actually enslaving white Europeans, including Britons.
Many conquests? So conquest is a good thing?
Apparently so, as long as it is brown people conquering white people
I would be really happy to look a fool, if someone could show me that this is a hoax. It is so mind-warping.
However, under this thread there are several other people saying their schools have sent out similar stuff. So I fear it may be real
Having been out all afternoon and having thought about it for a bit, is the real genius in today’s speech from the PM that he’s only spending £5bn - and that there’s going to be a similar announcement of many small things every month for the next four years?
We had years of nonsense like that under Blair. It’ll get old very quickly.
We have nothing to fear but lying feckers pretending that they're being generous.
Part of Roosevelt's address contained the line 'In every dark hour of our national life a leadership of frankness and of vigor has met with that understanding and support of the people themselves which is essential to victory'. I daresay BJ and his ghastly crew have the brass neck to try that line or similar, but at least polling suggests that voters won't fall for that kind of reheated bullshit.
I also love this bit: "Africa during the Moor civilisation was well respected, with many conquests and contributions towards European culture"
Not only is this illiterate, it also references a period in time when people in north Africa - "the Moor civilisation" (sic) - were actually enslaving white Europeans, including Britons.
Many conquests? So conquest is a good thing?
I thought they used to involve slaughter, pillage and rape. Maybe I'm wrong though.
It's lots of stuff. One of the central tenets is systemic racism: the idea that white societies are intrinsically racist, by definition, and white people themselves are always racist, even if you cannot see it, because of their white privilege.
It's a toxix concept, which divides everyone, and teaching it to kids is just mind-blowing
That letter from that head teacher is beyond belief. Where do you begin with this venomous nonsense?
It also delivers poor or disadvantaged white votes straight into hands of Farage or a far far worse successor.
It's phenomenally stupid. But, then again, left-wing white liberals are phenomenal dickheads.
It’s setting back the education of working-class white kids - who already have the worst educational outcomes of any racial group - by another generation.
Thanks to Mr Gove and Mr Cummings, increasing numbers of working-class white kids are now being educated at Acadamies and Free Schools, where they’re not subjected to this racist claptrap.
Really? Personally think that humans are so innately tribal. God knows why, but it's true. Meaning that we ALL harbor some degree of racism. Note that Lyndon Johnson would semi-habitually throw out the N-word in private conversation. Yet he did more to advance the cause of civil rights in America (for example, 1964 Voting Rights Act) than any president since Abraham Lincoln.
As for UK, on my last visit happened to witness a confrontation between a group of British Asian teenagers and White British bobbies. Have no idea how the coppers vote, but they didn't come off as hard-core Moselyites. As for the kids, they didn't look like delinquents or gangbangers. Yet you could have cut the mutual dislike with a meat ax.
Consider my own self to be a decent, left-minded enlightened kind of guy. Yet occasionally find thoughts popping into my head that would shame Strom Thurmond. When this happens, bite my tongue and think about what my mother said when I was ten and she heard my use the N-word; not out of malice, but just cause other kids said it & I thought is was colorful speech (no pun intended).
She told me, that word is a VERY bad word. That I should never say it. That she knew Black kids when she went to high school (there were none in my school, and only one Black person in the whole town) who had bee extremely hurt by that word.
Will never forget what she said, and the way she said it. And I pray I never do.
Your mother sounds a very decent woman. And her approach to these things is commendable. I confess from time to time I get a little exasperated about the technicalities of how BAME people are to be referred to but when I do I think, like your mother, why would I want to cause unnecessary distress or offence? If its important to them it is only good manners.
I got much the same telling off from my mother at much the same age for using p*ki.
IF she's still with us, please give her a kiss for me. You know, kinda thought my mom was unique, but wondering, how many others did the same thing for their children at a formative, teachable moment?
She is. I think probably quite a lot of parents acted similarly. My mother is certainly unsympathetic to pulling down statues/slagging off the police etc. but does very much dislike being unjust and nasty to people.
My grandmother too. She would have taken the view that the British Empire was in general, a good thing, but considered apartheid and Jim Crow to be unChristian.
My parents (born in the 1940s) did a bit of both.
My Dad certainly laughed (and told) one or two racist jokes, but he also upbraided a fellow commuter who (rudely) once asked an unfamiliar black man who turned up at the railway station at 7am one morning ["what are YOU doing here?" etc.] and told him he absolutely couldn't say that. And one of his closest friends is Japanese.
People are complex.
Sean, sounds like my mom & yours (and your grandmother) would get on like a house on fire.
Casino, you're dad and my dad also sound like peas in a pod, both in their love of a good joke (even if crude) AND their dislike of injustice and willingness to call it out. Of course my old man was big, tall and a former boxer. Regardless of height or girth, your's was clearly a big man too.
I find this amazing from Mr Smithson, given the constant attacks on TMAy on here and elsewhere. Why is she suddenly wonderful. Is it because she is useful as the means by which to attack Boris?
OR might it be, that she was - ahem - disappointing as PM but much better on the backbenches. Kind of like John Quincey Adams was a so-so president but afterwords a brilliant congressman.
quite, but its interesting nevertheless to use her to attack Boris... Its a repercussion of hanging on to Cummings.
Perhaps because with Clarke and the like all gone she is The Last Jedi of rebellion left on the Tory benches? And her political positioning since Johnson became PM hardly make this a surprise.
Except it is not odd at all unless you are thick. He does not say it is his Government he says 'this Government'.
There's also a grammatical howler, on a par with Mr Gove's apocryphal wish of yore for everyone to be above average, and his reference to the Scottish ports of Peterborough and Fraserhead.
Hmmm much as Trump's going to lose I don't think "The Lincoln project" putting out tweets featuring Ru Paul makes them look particularly like conservatives against Trump.
Are you sure? I get that people that might be looking for a badass president to kick up a fight. But if that pic of Trump doesn't give you the heebie-jeebies, nothing will!
It's lots of stuff. One of the central tenets is systemic racism: the idea that white societies are intrinsically racist, by definition, and white people themselves are always racist, even if you cannot see it, because of their white privilege.
It's a toxix concept, which divides everyone, and teaching it to kids is just mind-blowing
That letter from that head teacher is beyond belief. Where do you begin with this venomous nonsense?
It also delivers poor or disadvantaged white votes straight into hands of Farage or a far far worse successor.
It's phenomenally stupid. But, then again, left-wing white liberals are phenomenal dickheads.
It’s setting back the education of working-class white kids - who already have the worst educational outcomes of any racial group - by another generation.
Thanks to Mr Gove and Mr Cummings, increasing numbers of working-class white kids are now being educated at Acadamies and Free Schools, where they’re not subjected to this racist claptrap.
Have you seen the bit where they ask "How do I explain white privilege" to the kids?
Yeah, how do you explain that to, say, poor white working class schoolgirls in Rotherham? How dare they flaunt their privilege!
Notice that the leaflet always capitalises "Black" but "white" is lower case. This is now semi-official policy.
I also love this bit: "Africa during the Moor civilisation was well respected, with many conquests and contributions towards European culture"
Not only is this illiterate, it also references a period in time when people in north Africa - "the Moor civilisation" (sic) - were actually enslaving white Europeans, including Britons.
Many conquests? So conquest is a good thing?
Apparently so, as long as it is brown people conquering white people
I would be really happy to look a fool, if someone could show me that this is a hoax. It is so mind-warping.
However, under this thread there are several other people saying their schools have sent out similar stuff. So I fear it may be real
Given that white skin is, as far as the species is concerned, probably an aberration, the consequence of a lack of sunlight and hence an increased need to synthesise Vitamin D, some of this stuff is quite funny.
My skin is a sort of pink colour, but goes brown very rapidly. So much so that I'm sometimes 'suspected' of being Middle Eastern and to get pulled over for cross-questioning at airports.
I also love this bit: "Africa during the Moor civilisation was well respected, with many conquests and contributions towards European culture"
Not only is this illiterate, it also references a period in time when people in north Africa - "the Moor civilisation" (sic) - were actually enslaving white Europeans, including Britons.
Many conquests? So conquest is a good thing?
Apparently so, as long as it is brown people conquering white people
I would be really happy to look a fool, if someone could show me that this is a hoax. It is so mind-warping.
However, under this thread there are several other people saying their schools have sent out similar stuff. So I fear it may be real
Given that white skin is, as far as the species is concerned, probably an aberration, the consequence of a lack of sunlight and hence an increased need to synthesise Vitamin D, some of this stuff is quite funny.
My skin is a sort of pink colour, but goes brown very rapidly. So much so that I'm sometimes 'suspected' of being Middle Eastern and to get pulled over for cross-questioning at airports.
Then you should go out and conquer some people. Just make sure the people you conquer are REALLY white, then you're fine. You will be "well-respected", like "the Moor civilisation"
I also love this bit: "Africa during the Moor civilisation was well respected, with many conquests and contributions towards European culture"
Not only is this illiterate, it also references a period in time when people in north Africa - "the Moor civilisation" (sic) - were actually enslaving white Europeans, including Britons.
Many conquests? So conquest is a good thing?
That stuck out to me too. I watched an Oxford Union lecture about black history with a popular BLM media figure. It was very interesting, and there too, there was excoriation of white colonialism, but his case that the achievements of black civilisations were deliberately ignored and downplayed in white historical accounts (which was fascinating), was greatly based on the military domination by these black civilisations of their neighbours.
I have doubts whenever anyone says "hearing rumours about private polling"
Besides, you don't need private polling. There is plenty of public polling showing that the British voter doesn't like all this malarkey: 67% think it is "PC gone mad"
I also love this bit: "Africa during the Moor civilisation was well respected, with many conquests and contributions towards European culture"
Not only is this illiterate, it also references a period in time when people in north Africa - "the Moor civilisation" (sic) - were actually enslaving white Europeans, including Britons.
Many conquests? So conquest is a good thing?
Apparently so, as long as it is brown people conquering white people
I would be really happy to look a fool, if someone could show me that this is a hoax. It is so mind-warping.
However, under this thread there are several other people saying their schools have sent out similar stuff. So I fear it may be real
Given that white skin is, as far as the species is concerned, probably an aberration, the consequence of a lack of sunlight and hence an increased need to synthesise Vitamin D, some of this stuff is quite funny.
My skin is a sort of pink colour, but goes brown very rapidly. So much so that I'm sometimes 'suspected' of being Middle Eastern and to get pulled over for cross-questioning at airports.
It's lots of stuff. One of the central tenets is systemic racism: the idea that white societies are intrinsically racist, by definition, and white people themselves are always racist, even if you cannot see it, because of their white privilege.
It's a toxix concept, which divides everyone, and teaching it to kids is just mind-blowing
That letter from that head teacher is beyond belief. Where do you begin with this venomous nonsense?
It also delivers poor or disadvantaged white votes straight into hands of Farage or a far far worse successor.
It's phenomenally stupid. But, then again, left-wing white liberals are phenomenal dickheads.
It’s setting back the education of working-class white kids - who already have the worst educational outcomes of any racial group - by another generation.
Thanks to Mr Gove and Mr Cummings, increasing numbers of working-class white kids are now being educated at Acadamies and Free Schools, where they’re not subjected to this racist claptrap.
Have you seen the bit where they ask "How do I explain white privilege" to the kids?
Yeah, how do you explain that to, say, poor white working class schoolgirls in Rotherham? How dare they flaunt their privilege!
Notice that the leaflet always capitalises "Black" but "white" is lower case. This is now semi-official policy.
Oh indeed. The issues in the U.K. are IMO much more about class than race. But the middle-class woke offended whites can’t see it that way.
The issues in the USA are more nuanced, with a much more recent history of segregation and institutional racism. IMO, and this is a delicate argument, the issues there are as much about class as about race too, except that the race argument has a lot of people supporting it.
The problem with US police is as much a cultural violence issue as a race issue, many working-class white people are victims of police brutality without a massive campaign protesting.
It's lots of stuff. One of the central tenets is systemic racism: the idea that white societies are intrinsically racist, by definition, and white people themselves are always racist, even if you cannot see it, because of their white privilege.
It's a toxix concept, which divides everyone, and teaching it to kids is just mind-blowing
That letter from that head teacher is beyond belief. Where do you begin with this venomous nonsense?
It also delivers poor or disadvantaged white votes straight into hands of Farage or a far far worse successor.
It's phenomenally stupid. But, then again, left-wing white liberals are phenomenal dickheads.
It’s setting back the education of working-class white kids - who already have the worst educational outcomes of any racial group - by another generation.
Thanks to Mr Gove and Mr Cummings, increasing numbers of working-class white kids are now being educated at Acadamies and Free Schools, where they’re not subjected to this racist claptrap.
Have you seen the bit where they ask "How do I explain white privilege" to the kids?
Yeah, how do you explain that to, say, poor white working class schoolgirls in Rotherham? How dare they flaunt their privilege!
Notice that the leaflet always capitalises "Black" but "white" is lower case. This is now semi-official policy.
Oh indeed. The issues in the U.K. are IMO much more about class than race. But the middle-class woke offended whites can’t see it that way.
The issues in the USA are more nuanced, with a much more recent history of segregation and institutional racism. IMO, and this is a delicate argument, the issues there are as much about class as about race too, except that the race argument has a lot of people supporting it.
The problem with US police is as much a cultural violence issue as a race issue, many working-class white people are victims of police brutality without a massive campaign protesting.
Yes, that's fair.
We've imported a toxic American divide with no justification. Britain was doing well, still a long way to go, but making a lot of progress. Black British people do not regularly die at the hands of racist cops. It's just a fact.
Yet we're now acting like they do.
If this madness continues it's going to make everything worse. If you teach white kids they are inherently racist, and there's nothing they can do, then they might as well be racist. If you teach kids they must see race and colour everywhere, then that is what they will see: race and colour, difference and division.
It's hateful and it's so counter-productive.
I am going for an evening stroll to soothe my soul
I also love this bit: "Africa during the Moor civilisation was well respected, with many conquests and contributions towards European culture"
Not only is this illiterate, it also references a period in time when people in north Africa - "the Moor civilisation" (sic) - were actually enslaving white Europeans, including Britons.
Many conquests? So conquest is a good thing?
I thought they used to involve slaughter, pillage and rape. Maybe I'm wrong though.
Moorish Andalusia was one of the great European cultural revivals, and very multicultural. In particular for European Jewry, until they were either expelled or forcibly converted after the Reconquista.
Just seen tweet the Prem are reverse ferreting away from BLM the organisation.
A few too many season ticket returns?
Are they still sending out teams for compulsory kneels to that organisation’s logo on their shirts? As some of us said a few days ago, they have a perfectly good “Kick It Out” anti-racism campaign of their own, there’s now a big difference between being against racism and support of BLM UK as an organistion.
Any word yet as to what GoFundMe are doing with their million pounds of donations - presumably under banking law they can’t just sent it to a random individual bank account, and need to see a registered company or charity with a bank account in that name?
Yes, it did all feel a bit back to the future a few days ago - Boris prattling on about the coming of some vague golden age for want of anything else to say. But we've all heard it many times now. The magic has passed.
I also love this bit: "Africa during the Moor civilisation was well respected, with many conquests and contributions towards European culture"
Not only is this illiterate, it also references a period in time when people in north Africa - "the Moor civilisation" (sic) - were actually enslaving white Europeans, including Britons.
I don't understand how wars of imperial aggression and enslavement can be considered progressive so long as the people doing them are not white Europeans. Al-Mansur, Mulai Ismail, Timur, Babur, Nadir Shah etc. are really interesting people to study, but there was nothing gentle about them.
Yes, it did all feel a bit back to the future a few days ago - Boris prattling on about the coming of some vague golden age for want of anything else to say. But we've all heard it many times now. The magic has passed.
Yes, it did all feel a bit back to the future a few days ago - Boris prattling on about the coming of some vague golden age for want of anything else to say. But we've all heard it many times now. The magic has passed.
There is radicalism in this approach but it is strangely hollow. It has a make-believe quality, as when a child gets more play out of the packaging than the gift. Johnson said he wanted Brexit so badly, he stamped his feet and got it for Christmas. But he cast the thing itself aside and sits in the empty box, brrm-brrming, beep-beeping excitedly, going nowhere.
I also love this bit: "Africa during the Moor civilisation was well respected, with many conquests and contributions towards European culture"
Not only is this illiterate, it also references a period in time when people in north Africa - "the Moor civilisation" (sic) - were actually enslaving white Europeans, including Britons.
I don't understand how wars of imperial aggression and enslavement can be considered progressive so long as the people doing them are not white Europeans. Al-Mansur, Mulai Ismail, Timur, Babur, Nadir Shah etc. are really interesting people to study, but there was nothing gentle about them.
You know, all that infrastructure investment is terribly expensive, and the Government is going to need to raise large sums of money to finance it ... why hello there, Channel 4 - how nice to see you...
I spent 13 yrs in the Civil Service and left after I had been given a temporary promotion to set up a new Dept when, after finishing the job, they took my promotion away from me and gave the job of running the Dept to a time serving idiot two grades above my permanent grade. Driving me out was the best thing the Service ever did for me.
SO is that when you became a freelance grammarian & curmudgeon?
It's a bit early in the day for you to be at it. Abstinence my dear chap, abstinence.
Waaaaay toooo laaaate for me to take that sage advice, bro. - but thanks for kind thought!
You know, all that infrastructure investment is terribly expensive, and the Government is going to need to raise large sums of money to finance it ... why hello there, Channel 4 - how nice to see you...
Channel 4 is long overdue privatisation.
Once the Civil Service is reformed and the BBC is privatised that should be next.
It's lots of stuff. One of the central tenets is systemic racism: the idea that white societies are intrinsically racist, by definition, and white people themselves are always racist, even if you cannot see it, because of their white privilege.
It's a toxix concept, which divides everyone, and teaching it to kids is just mind-blowing
That letter from that head teacher is beyond belief. Where do you begin with this venomous nonsense?
It also delivers poor or disadvantaged white votes straight into hands of Farage or a far far worse successor.
It's phenomenally stupid. But, then again, left-wing white liberals are phenomenal dickheads.
It’s setting back the education of working-class white kids - who already have the worst educational outcomes of any racial group - by another generation.
Thanks to Mr Gove and Mr Cummings, increasing numbers of working-class white kids are now being educated at Acadamies and Free Schools, where they’re not subjected to this racist claptrap.
Have you seen the bit where they ask "How do I explain white privilege" to the kids?
Yeah, how do you explain that to, say, poor white working class schoolgirls in Rotherham? How dare they flaunt their privilege!
Notice that the leaflet always capitalises "Black" but "white" is lower case. This is now semi-official policy.
Oh indeed. The issues in the U.K. are IMO much more about class than race. But the middle-class woke offended whites can’t see it that way.
The issues in the USA are more nuanced, with a much more recent history of segregation and institutional racism. IMO, and this is a delicate argument, the issues there are as much about class as about race too, except that the race argument has a lot of people supporting it.
The problem with US police is as much a cultural violence issue as a race issue, many working-class white people are victims of police brutality without a massive campaign protesting.
Yes, that's fair.
We've imported a toxic American divide with no justification. Britain was doing well, still a long way to go, but making a lot of progress. Black British people do not regularly die at the hands of racist cops. It's just a fact.
Yet we're now acting like they do.
If this madness continues it's going to make everything worse. If you teach white kids they are inherently racist, and there's nothing they can do, then they might as well be racist. If you teach kids they must see race and colour everywhere, then that is what they will see: race and colour, difference and division.
It's hateful and it's so counter-productive.
I am going for an evening stroll to soothe my soul
I think someone once said that they wanted their kids to grow up in an environment where what mattered was the content of their character, rather than the colour of their skin.
It's lots of stuff. One of the central tenets is systemic racism: the idea that white societies are intrinsically racist, by definition, and white people themselves are always racist, even if you cannot see it, because of their white privilege.
It's a toxix concept, which divides everyone, and teaching it to kids is just mind-blowing
That letter from that head teacher is beyond belief. Where do you begin with this venomous nonsense?
It also delivers poor or disadvantaged white votes straight into hands of Farage or a far far worse successor.
It's phenomenally stupid. But, then again, left-wing white liberals are phenomenal dickheads.
It’s setting back the education of working-class white kids - who already have the worst educational outcomes of any racial group - by another generation.
Thanks to Mr Gove and Mr Cummings, increasing numbers of working-class white kids are now being educated at Acadamies and Free Schools, where they’re not subjected to this racist claptrap.
Have you seen the bit where they ask "How do I explain white privilege" to the kids?
Yeah, how do you explain that to, say, poor white working class schoolgirls in Rotherham? How dare they flaunt their privilege!
Notice that the leaflet always capitalises "Black" but "white" is lower case. This is now semi-official policy.
Parts of the educational establishment have been captured by this stuff for years. It is only now people have become aware of what is going on, because things like this are so ridiculous. Its beyond parody.
Its like we've gone through a revolution in a few weeks, the terror lasted a few days, the reeducation campaign is well underway but shortly we will head in to a counter revolution, the signs of which are everywhere. It would have been possible to miss the whole thing if you aren't on twitter. My Mum doesn't know what is going on, she just watches bbc news once a day, the only thing she saw was the 'largely peaceful' protest in London which was only news because everyone was supposed to be in lockdown. We're all in this ridiculous elite bubble.
I also love this bit: "Africa during the Moor civilisation was well respected, with many conquests and contributions towards European culture"
Not only is this illiterate, it also references a period in time when people in north Africa - "the Moor civilisation" (sic) - were actually enslaving white Europeans, including Britons.
Many conquests? So conquest is a good thing?
I thought they used to involve slaughter, pillage and rape. Maybe I'm wrong though.
Moorish Andalusia was one of the great European cultural revivals, and very multicultural. In particular for European Jewry, until they were either expelled or forcibly converted after the Reconquista.
When we used to get surveys asking who the biggest threat to the world was, and many people would answer the USA, I don't think they had in mind America's capacity to export its dysfunctional politics and culture wars, but that has turned out to be one of the biggest problems.
You know, all that infrastructure investment is terribly expensive, and the Government is going to need to raise large sums of money to finance it ... why hello there, Channel 4 - how nice to see you...
Channel 4 is long overdue privatisation.
Once the Civil Service is reformed and the BBC is privatised that should be next.
Times Radio is a welcome relief from the shouting match of the Today Programme.
You know, all that infrastructure investment is terribly expensive, and the Government is going to need to raise large sums of money to finance it ... why hello there, Channel 4 - how nice to see you...
Be very careful what you wish for. This isn't the USA, and Fox News would need a lot of Anglicisation to work. If we assume that LBC is the best stab at privatised news coverage, it's the home of James O'Brien and has just got rid of Nigel Farage.
I also love this bit: "Africa during the Moor civilisation was well respected, with many conquests and contributions towards European culture"
Not only is this illiterate, it also references a period in time when people in north Africa - "the Moor civilisation" (sic) - were actually enslaving white Europeans, including Britons.
I don't understand how wars of imperial aggression and enslavement can be considered progressive so long as the people doing them are not white Europeans. Al-Mansur, Mulai Ismail, Timur, Babur, Nadir Shah etc. are really interesting people to study, but there was nothing gentle about them.
That's the way these myopic muppets think.
In similar vein, in USA about the only ethnics it is now socially acceptable to denigrate, or at least make overt fun of, are White southerners. As in cracker, hillbilly, mush-mouth pecker-wood, etc., etc.
Indeed, one reason why flying rebel flag was and still is practiced by many White southerners, is because they've traditional had a BIG chip on the shoulder thanks to this kind of inbred, sometimes overt but more frequently unconscious prejudice.
Also, why did they ever let themselves be saddled with a sad word like Remain?
They should have gone for STAY. That's a much warmer, kinder word. Oh, please stay. Won't you stay for another drink? I'd love to STAY
Idiots.
"Take Back Control" was a great slogan, the Remain campaign was weak but at the end of the day we left the EU because unscrupulous politicians and their media allies convinced 52% of the voters that their problems and the country's failings would all be solved by leaving the EU.
It was almost impossible for the remainers to counteract that argument because it was not possible to prove otherwise and people believed what they wanted to believe. Any attempt to argue otherwise was airily dismissed as "Project Fear" or "Fake News" by the metropolitan elite in the grand Trumpton manner.
It was a great way to win the vote, all they have to do now is make it all happen.
Wonderfully uninspiring nonsense from the Great Optimist today. As with Trump, all he has is bonhomie, repartee and endless positivity and, let's be fair, it won him two London Mayoral elections and a General Election with an 80-seat majority so I shouldn't knock it.
As Johnson is doing the rounds of WWII leaders, having adopted FDR instead of Churchill, I suppose the possibility is he'll go Uncle Joe on us or perhaps more Benito in terms of the flowing rhetoric though a factory in Dudley isn't as inspiring as a medieval balcony in Rome.
I'd have liked some recognition the world has changed and there is a revolution in how people work and want to work. The day of the back office, the day of the commuter, both are now history and the age of the Homeworker has dawned - a Place (where nobody dares to go, sorry, Olivia) culture where all you need is close at hand.
Instead it's flats, flats and more flats and a drop in the ocean of the backlog maintenance bill for schools but I suppose with a deficit out of control it's better than nothing and it'll be interesting to see how Sunak (who will probably now be "bad cop") walks the line between Johnsonian aspiration (probably the only aspiration is re-election) and the reality of a burgeoning deficit not helped by a new wave of unemployment.
I suppose the new unemployed will all become bricklayers on the vast construction sites of Johnson's Britain. I was reflecting on the "New Deal" notion and of course Roosevelt wasn't the only one who spent big in the 1930s on infrastructure projects - the autobahn down which the allied tanks drove so rapidly in 1945 were a product of the Nazi equivalent
I've actually a certain amount of sympathy for the Scottish Government in this situation. The prevalence of the disease in Scotland is lower than that in England and they are clearly worried about reinfection.
The UK Government has already decided that taking a cricket bat to various businesses in Leicester is a price worth paying in the fight against the disease. Scotland is, of course, to a very great degree internally autonomous, including in most matters to do with public health; therefore, if the Scottish Government thinks that doing likewise to its tourist sector is a price worth paying for the greater good, then why not let it do so?
You know, all that infrastructure investment is terribly expensive, and the Government is going to need to raise large sums of money to finance it ... why hello there, Channel 4 - how nice to see you...
Channel 4 is long overdue privatisation.
Once the Civil Service is reformed and the BBC is privatised that should be next.
Why smash statues when trashing our cultural bandwidth is so much more profitable?
I've actually a certain amount of sympathy for the Scottish Government in this situation. The prevalence of the disease in Scotland is lower than that in England and they are clearly worried about reinfection.
The UK Government has already decided that taking a cricket bat to various businesses in Leicester is a price worth paying in the fight against the disease. Scotland is, of course, to a very great degree internally autonomous, including in most matters to do with public health; therefore, if the Scottish Government thinks that doing likewise to its tourist sector is a price worth paying for the greater good, then why not let it do so?
Are they going to close the borders to anyone else or just the UK?
I also love this bit: "Africa during the Moor civilisation was well respected, with many conquests and contributions towards European culture"
Not only is this illiterate, it also references a period in time when people in north Africa - "the Moor civilisation" (sic) - were actually enslaving white Europeans, including Britons.
I don't understand how wars of imperial aggression and enslavement can be considered progressive so long as the people doing them are not white Europeans. Al-Mansur, Mulai Ismail, Timur, Babur, Nadir Shah etc. are really interesting people to study, but there was nothing gentle about them.
That's the way these myopic muppets think.
In similar vein, in USA about the only ethnics it is now socially acceptable to denigrate, or at least make overt fun of, are White southerners. As in cracker, hillbilly, mush-mouth pecker-wood, etc., etc.
Indeed, one reason why flying rebel flag was and still is practiced by many White southerners, is because they've traditional had a BIG chip on the shoulder thanks to this kind of inbred, sometimes overt but more frequently unconscious prejudice.
The rules change but human prejudice remains constant.
I mean, I know it's Twitter, but the near universal level of caning Trump is getting below the line on that campaign tweet is well beyond mere bubble stuff.
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I've actually a certain amount of sympathy for the Scottish Government in this situation. The prevalence of the disease in Scotland is lower than that in England and they are clearly worried about reinfection.
The UK Government has already decided that taking a cricket bat to various businesses in Leicester is a price worth paying in the fight against the disease. Scotland is, of course, to a very great degree internally autonomous, including in most matters to do with public health; therefore, if the Scottish Government thinks that doing likewise to its tourist sector is a price worth paying for the greater good, then why not let it do so?
Are they going to close the borders to anyone else or just the UK?
Looks like Terry Crews is the latest bod to offend the wokerati.
But I thought he was pretty woke himself?
So was JK Rowling once. Eventually they learn that you can’t be woke enough.
The one that always gets me is Germaine Greer going from a radical feminist threat-to-the-nation, to being no-platformed/cancelled because she doesn't agree with trans-rights activists about absolutely everything.
It can only be a matter of time before Peter Tatchell is no longer considered sufficiently right-on and he's in trouble, assuming that hasn't already happened.
(Postal ballots could cause there to be no result on the night).
Bear in mind there are almost 2 months between the election and the changing of the guard, it's not like here where the new PM is usually in No 10 within 24 hours
The gender split explains the lead - among men it's tied at 47 but among women Biden leads 59-35, a colossal 24-point advantage.
The geographical split shows Biden winning the North East 58-37 and the West 59-37. Trump wins the South 52-41 but incredibly (and completely contrary to the PBS-Marist poll at the weekend), Biden is winning the Midwest 61-32.
Yes, I know...
The White vote is split 49-48 in Trump's favour which would be a 12% swing on 2016.
I just cannot accept the Midwest numbers which look ridiculous and would see Biden chewing up a fair chunk of what we would think of safe Red states.
On topic, I don't think Theresa May is causing any great problems for the administration. This isn't going to cut through in places where the conservatives need to hold or gain votes.
I agree it is quite funny the way that she exposes the contradictions of what Gove is saying here, but we have become used to politicians being hypocrites so our expectations have decreased somewhat. The current lot seem like they can't be bothered to make much effort at all, maybe they regard parliament in much the same way as the average voter: a pointless performance. Perhaps that doesn't matter in the end, they should be judged on what they actually achieve.
Wonderfully uninspiring nonsense from the Great Optimist today. As with Trump, all he has is bonhomie, repartee and endless positivity and, let's be fair, it won him two London Mayoral elections and a General Election with an 80-seat majority so I shouldn't knock it.
As Johnson is doing the rounds of WWII leaders, having adopted FDR instead of Churchill, I suppose the possibility is he'll go Uncle Joe on us or perhaps more Benito in terms of the flowing rhetoric though a factory in Dudley isn't as inspiring as a medieval balcony in Rome.
I'd have liked some recognition the world has changed and there is a revolution in how people work and want to work. The day of the back office, the day of the commuter, both are now history and the age of the Homeworker has dawned - a Place (where nobody dares to go, sorry, Olivia) culture where all you need is close at hand.
Instead it's flats, flats and more flats and a drop in the ocean of the backlog maintenance bill for schools but I suppose with a deficit out of control it's better than nothing and it'll be interesting to see how Sunak (who will probably now be "bad cop") walks the line between Johnsonian aspiration (probably the only aspiration is re-election) and the reality of a burgeoning deficit not helped by a new wave of unemployment.
I suppose the new unemployed will all become bricklayers on the vast construction sites of Johnson's Britain. I was reflecting on the "New Deal" notion and of course Roosevelt wasn't the only one who spent big in the 1930s on infrastructure projects - the autobahn down which the allied tanks drove so rapidly in 1945 were a product of the Nazi equivalent
Seems Johnson's ridiculous comparison with FDR has gone down badly.
"A mammoth programme of building and job creation vs a lick of paint for the UK's crumbling hospitals and schools: How Boris's 'new deal' compares to the original created by Roosevelt in the Great Depression of 1930s America"
That's the Daily Mail!
"Boris Johnson showed us the architectural drawings for recovery – but not the precise specifications"
Looks like Terry Crews is the latest bod to offend the wokerati.
But I thought he was pretty woke himself?
So was JK Rowling once. Eventually they learn that you can’t be woke enough.
The one that always gets me is Germaine Greer going from a radical feminist threat-to-the-nation, to being no-platformed/cancelled because she doesn't agree with trans-rights activists about absolutely everything.
It can only be a matter of time before Peter Tatchell is no longer considered sufficiently right-on and he's in trouble, assuming that hasn't already happened.
It has happened I think: Tatchell got no platformed for being opposed to no platforming.
You know, all that infrastructure investment is terribly expensive, and the Government is going to need to raise large sums of money to finance it ... why hello there, Channel 4 - how nice to see you...
Channel 4 is long overdue privatisation.
Once the Civil Service is reformed and the BBC is privatised that should be next.
Why smash statues when trashing our cultural bandwidth is so much more profitable?
Well The BBC is long overdue for a serious kick in the pants. I refuse to listen to its anti anyone who does not fit woke detailing. its getting serious. Fuck the licence fee.. let those who want to listen to that sort of shite pay. There are others to listen to including the aforementioned Times Radio.
If they get rid of BBC4 .. what is left worth watching?
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Looks like Terry Crews is the latest bod to offend the wokerati.
But I thought he was pretty woke himself?
So was JK Rowling once. Eventually they learn that you can’t be woke enough.
The one that always gets me is Germaine Greer going from a radical feminist threat-to-the-nation, to being no-platformed/cancelled because she doesn't agree with trans-rights activists about absolutely everything.
It can only be a matter of time before Peter Tatchell is no longer considered sufficiently right-on and he's in trouble, assuming that hasn't already happened.
It has happened I think: Tatchell got no platformed for being opposed to no platforming.
Are you joking? Or is the world really that absurd?
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You what??
https://twitter.com/fragrantfeline/status/1277958928152707073?s=20
I also love this bit: "Africa during the Moor civilisation was well respected, with many conquests and contributions towards European culture"
Not only is this illiterate, it also references a period in time when people in north Africa - "the Moor civilisation" (sic) - were actually enslaving white Europeans, including Britons.
There's so much ignorance and so little thinking going on.
No actual 'theory'?
Daftness really is independent of skin tone.
Kids can be safely taught all sorts of nonsense - they really are going to be able to decide. Admittedly some thoughts stick a bit. For example, somehow, I associate 'Harvest Festival' with tinned food. (We tipped up as children in a line to hand over our tins of beans)
Perhaps in a similar way the colour of peoples skins isn't invisible to me. I do see it, and I do react differently. Mainly I'm interested in their stories. A mate of mine from work was from Zimbabwe - what stories he may have heard from his ancestors.
The human race is one, but the stories are many. The stories are important - good, bad, or whatever.
It's a bit early in the day for you to be at it. Abstinence my dear chap, abstinence.
If you create an us and them climate why should you be surprised that people will decide to walk away from it?
If they don't the wind will be sown - and we'll all reap the whirlwind.
Accepting Mrs May's criticism of Mr Johnson as valid and legitimate doesn't mean one suddenly considers Mrs May's premiership to be anything other than disappointing.
I would be really happy to look a fool, if someone could show me that this is a hoax. It is so mind-warping.
However, under this thread there are several other people saying their schools have sent out similar stuff. So I fear it may be real
Part of Roosevelt's address contained the line 'In every dark hour of our national life a leadership of frankness and of vigor has met with that understanding and support of the people themselves which is essential to victory'. I daresay BJ and his ghastly crew have the brass neck to try that line or similar, but at least polling suggests that voters won't fall for that kind of reheated bullshit.
Thanks to Mr Gove and Mr Cummings, increasing numbers of working-class white kids are now being educated at Acadamies and Free Schools, where they’re not subjected to this racist claptrap.
Casino, you're dad and my dad also sound like peas in a pod, both in their love of a good joke (even if crude) AND their dislike of injustice and willingness to call it out. Of course my old man was big, tall and a former boxer. Regardless of height or girth, your's was clearly a big man too.
https://twitter.com/ProjectLincoln/status/1278043373648175104
He's about as liberal as you get.
Yeah, how do you explain that to, say, poor white working class schoolgirls in Rotherham? How dare they flaunt their privilege!
Notice that the leaflet always capitalises "Black" but "white" is lower case. This is now semi-official policy.
My skin is a sort of pink colour, but goes brown very rapidly. So much so that I'm sometimes 'suspected' of being Middle Eastern and to get pulled over for cross-questioning at airports.
A few too many season ticket returns?
*Considering the club's have been refunding the remaining games of this season.
The issues in the USA are more nuanced, with a much more recent history of segregation and institutional racism. IMO, and this is a delicate argument, the issues there are as much about class as about race too, except that the race argument has a lot of people supporting it.
The problem with US police is as much a cultural violence issue as a race issue, many working-class white people are victims of police brutality without a massive campaign protesting.
We've imported a toxic American divide with no justification. Britain was doing well, still a long way to go, but making a lot of progress. Black British people do not regularly die at the hands of racist cops. It's just a fact.
Yet we're now acting like they do.
If this madness continues it's going to make everything worse. If you teach white kids they are inherently racist, and there's nothing they can do, then they might as well be racist. If you teach kids they must see race and colour everywhere, then that is what they will see: race and colour, difference and division.
It's hateful and it's so counter-productive.
I am going for an evening stroll to soothe my soul
Any word yet as to what GoFundMe are doing with their million pounds of donations - presumably under banking law they can’t just sent it to a random individual bank account, and need to see a registered company or charity with a bank account in that name?
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jun/30/boris-johnson-revolutionary-new-deal
Waaaaay toooo laaaate for me to take that sage advice, bro. - but thanks for kind thought!
Once the Civil Service is reformed and the BBC is privatised that should be next.
Its like we've gone through a revolution in a few weeks, the terror lasted a few days, the reeducation campaign is well underway but shortly we will head in to a counter revolution, the signs of which are everywhere. It would have been possible to miss the whole thing if you aren't on twitter. My Mum doesn't know what is going on, she just watches bbc news once a day, the only thing she saw was the 'largely peaceful' protest in London which was only news because everyone was supposed to be in lockdown. We're all in this ridiculous elite bubble.
This is what the BBC says
https://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/islam/history/spain_1.shtml
The restrictions I believe were Dhimmi status and payment of the Jizya tax
Wikipedia says the following
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_under_Muslim_rule
Note the part about second class citizens
Indeed, one reason why flying rebel flag was and still is practiced by many White southerners, is because they've traditional had a BIG chip on the shoulder thanks to this kind of inbred, sometimes overt but more frequently unconscious prejudice.
It was almost impossible for the remainers to counteract that argument because it was not possible to prove otherwise and people believed what they wanted to believe. Any attempt to argue otherwise was airily dismissed as "Project Fear" or "Fake News" by the metropolitan elite in the grand Trumpton manner.
It was a great way to win the vote, all they have to do now is make it all happen.
Wonderfully uninspiring nonsense from the Great Optimist today. As with Trump, all he has is bonhomie, repartee and endless positivity and, let's be fair, it won him two London Mayoral elections and a General Election with an 80-seat majority so I shouldn't knock it.
As Johnson is doing the rounds of WWII leaders, having adopted FDR instead of Churchill, I suppose the possibility is he'll go Uncle Joe on us or perhaps more Benito in terms of the flowing rhetoric though a factory in Dudley isn't as inspiring as a medieval balcony in Rome.
I'd have liked some recognition the world has changed and there is a revolution in how people work and want to work. The day of the back office, the day of the commuter, both are now history and the age of the Homeworker has dawned - a Place (where nobody dares to go, sorry, Olivia) culture where all you need is close at hand.
Instead it's flats, flats and more flats and a drop in the ocean of the backlog maintenance bill for schools but I suppose with a deficit out of control it's better than nothing and it'll be interesting to see how Sunak (who will probably now be "bad cop") walks the line between Johnsonian aspiration (probably the only aspiration is re-election) and the reality of a burgeoning deficit not helped by a new wave of unemployment.
I suppose the new unemployed will all become bricklayers on the vast construction sites of Johnson's Britain. I was reflecting on the "New Deal" notion and of course Roosevelt wasn't the only one who spent big in the 1930s on infrastructure projects - the autobahn down which the allied tanks drove so rapidly in 1945 were a product of the Nazi equivalent
The UK Government has already decided that taking a cricket bat to various businesses in Leicester is a price worth paying in the fight against the disease. Scotland is, of course, to a very great degree internally autonomous, including in most matters to do with public health; therefore, if the Scottish Government thinks that doing likewise to its tourist sector is a price worth paying for the greater good, then why not let it do so?
I pause, but he looks gone to.me.
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It can only be a matter of time before Peter Tatchell is no longer considered sufficiently right-on and he's in trouble, assuming that hasn't already happened.
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The gender split explains the lead - among men it's tied at 47 but among women Biden leads 59-35, a colossal 24-point advantage.
The geographical split shows Biden winning the North East 58-37 and the West 59-37. Trump wins the South 52-41 but incredibly (and completely contrary to the PBS-Marist poll at the weekend), Biden is winning the Midwest 61-32.
Yes, I know...
The White vote is split 49-48 in Trump's favour which would be a 12% swing on 2016.
I just cannot accept the Midwest numbers which look ridiculous and would see Biden chewing up a fair chunk of what we would think of safe Red states.
I agree it is quite funny the way that she exposes the contradictions of what Gove is saying here, but we have become used to politicians being hypocrites so our expectations have decreased somewhat. The current lot seem like they can't be bothered to make much effort at all, maybe they regard parliament in much the same way as the average voter: a pointless performance. Perhaps that doesn't matter in the end, they should be judged on what they actually achieve.
I pointed out I'm the privately educated son of a doctor, I really don't have much in common with some poor BAME person living on the poverty line.
They argued that I must have been the victim of racism/bigotry at some time just like the poor BAME person and it must have held us both back.
They couldn't comprehend I and society* considers me a success.
*Well my mother still wants me to be a doctor, but hey ho.
"A mammoth programme of building and job creation vs a lick of paint for the UK's crumbling hospitals and schools: How Boris's 'new deal' compares to the original created by Roosevelt in the Great Depression of 1930s America"
That's the Daily Mail!
"Boris Johnson showed us the architectural drawings for recovery – but not the precise specifications"
Telegraph
There are others to listen to including the aforementioned Times Radio.
If they get rid of BBC4 .. what is left worth watching?
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