Disappointed Kieran didn't address my "Personality" theory.
No LotO has become PM since IPSOS-MORI started their leader image ratings in 1978 without leading on personality, and Boris leads Starmer 64-30
As has been stated several times on here, when 2024 arrives, the last thing we might feel we need is a "character" running the show.
The pollsters seem to think it's an issue and Joe Public seems to have a view. I have more sympathy with your take on the issue but share Joe Public's opinion on it, important or otherwise.
Aren't these the people who voted in 2016, don't normally vote in Westminster elections because "they're all the same" or because the BNP aren't standing in their constituency, but turned out to "get Brexit done"? The question is what does Cummings dangle in front of them next time. Hanging?
I think Starmer is to some extent benefitting from not being Corbyn. I'm tempted to say that Labour have jumped straight from Foot to Blair, but actually I think Starmer is quite left-wing. Alastair Campbell was correct to say that we need to wait and see what Starmer presents to the country. Plenty of time for that, but it will be interesting to see what sorts of things Starmer proposes.
I'd suggest Starmer slots in rather nicely as Kinnock.
I think your suggestion does not hold water. For whatever reason English voters prefer an English leader. Both Kinnock and Brown were derided in many instances because of this. John Smith less so and Blair was seen as English.
Also to become leader of the opposition in 5 years is impressive as is his backstory. We are also told that politicians who have never done anything else are out of touch. SKS has had an an impressive career outside of politics. He is a breath of fresh air in comparison to our current leader and the leader of the USA.
I think Brown it was a two way thing - there were people calling him 'Broon' and there were a lot of other people for whom his Scottishness was part of the 'prudence' 'dour' 'clunking fist' image for austere economic competence that he had in the early years.
This actually got me thinking. How many Scottish PMs have won elections?
Well, it depends of course on what you mean by Scottish. You could include Macmillan and Baldwin in that list if you wanted to stretch the criteria a bit. Blair, certainly. But I don’t think a Scottish PM sitting for a Scottish seat has won a general election since World War Two. In that time Home and Brown are the only two Scots I can think of anyway who meet that criteria. Smith of course almost certainly would have won an election had he not died.
Even before World War Two the picture isn’t rosy. MacDonald was Scottish of course, bat sat for Seaham in the only general election he won. Asquith by contrast sat for North East Fife, but was a Yorkshireman. Campbell-Bannerman meets the criteria, and Rosebery was a Scottish peer. Balfour was Scottish, but as PM sat for a seat in Manchester and as Leader of the Opposition for the City of London.
I’ve got to give this to Yorkcity, he seems to be right.
They don't have the documents because they didn't make the order, yet the accusation is of a cover up? Jesus.
Another one who has been driven mad by Brexit. The original tweet will be all over social media.
James O'Brien has been mad - and an obnoxious twat - since long before Brexit. He matches Morgan for his offensive ignorance.
And part of what makes Britain great.
Oh I love the fact he gets to have his voice heard. That really is what makes this country great. A station that could have two people as offensive as O'Brien and Farage both working for it from completely opposite ends of the political spectrum has to be admired.
But it doesn't change O'Brien's fundamental nature.
I think Starmer is to some extent benefitting from not being Corbyn. I'm tempted to say that Labour have jumped straight from Foot to Blair, but actually I think Starmer is quite left-wing. Alastair Campbell was correct to say that we need to wait and see what Starmer presents to the country. Plenty of time for that, but it will be interesting to see what sorts of things Starmer proposes.
I'd suggest Starmer slots in rather nicely as Kinnock.
I think your suggestion does not hold water. For whatever reason English voters prefer an English leader. Both Kinnock and Brown were derided in many instances because of this. John Smith less so and Blair was seen as English.
Also to become leader of the opposition in 5 years is impressive as is his backstory. We are also told that politicians who have never done anything else are out of touch. SKS has had an an impressive career outside of politics. He is a breath of fresh air in comparison to our current leader and the leader of the USA.
I think Brown it was a two way thing - there were people calling him 'Broon' and there were a lot of other people for whom his Scottishness was part of the 'prudence' 'dour' 'clunking fist' image for austere economic competence that he had in the early years.
As a matter of interest, did enough Southrons know about the Broon Family comic strip for that to be a possible reference, if only out of ignorance? Every Scot knows about that product of D. C. Thomson, but none of the characters in it gybe at all well with Mr Brown's character.
Of course - I had completely forgotten. That definitely channels D.C. THomson. THough the point remains, how many people would have known? But conversely that would explain the currency of the Broon nickname.
I think Starmer is to some extent benefitting from not being Corbyn. I'm tempted to say that Labour have jumped straight from Foot to Blair, but actually I think Starmer is quite left-wing. Alastair Campbell was correct to say that we need to wait and see what Starmer presents to the country. Plenty of time for that, but it will be interesting to see what sorts of things Starmer proposes.
I'd suggest Starmer slots in rather nicely as Kinnock.
I think your suggestion does not hold water. For whatever reason English voters prefer an English leader. Both Kinnock and Brown were derided in many instances because of this. John Smith less so and Blair was seen as English.
Also to become leader of the opposition in 5 years is impressive as is his backstory. We are also told that politicians who have never done anything else are out of touch. SKS has had an an impressive career outside of politics. He is a breath of fresh air in comparison to our current leader and the leader of the USA.
I think Brown it was a two way thing - there were people calling him 'Broon' and there were a lot of other people for whom his Scottishness was part of the 'prudence' 'dour' 'clunking fist' image for austere economic competence that he had in the early years.
This actually got me thinking. How many Scottish PMs have won elections?
Well, it depends of course on what you mean by Scottish. You could include Macmillan and Baldwin in that list if you wanted to stretch the criteria a bit. Blair, certainly. But I don’t think a Scottish PM sitting for a Scottish seat has won a general election since World War Two. In that time Home and Brown are the only two Scots I can think of anyway who meet that criteria. Smith of course almost certainly would have won an election had he not died.
Even before World War Two the picture isn’t rosy. MacDonald was Scottish of course, bat sat for Seaham in the only general election he won. Asquith by contrast sat for North East Fife, but was a Yorkshireman. Campbell-Bannerman meets the criteria, and Rosebery was a Scottish peer. Balfour was Scottish, but as PM sat for a seat in Manchester and as Leader of the Opposition for the City of London.
I’ve got to give this to Yorkcity, he seems to be right.
Cameron is a Scottish name is it not? I've no idea of David Cameron's precise family history.
That is about as close to Scottish as he is a Scottish surname , ie 0%. You only need to look at his pansy baw face to know.
Disappointed Kieran didn't address my "Personality" theory.
No LotO has become PM since IPSOS-MORI started their leader image ratings in 1978 without leading on personality, and Boris leads Starmer 64-30
As has been stated several times on here, when 2024 arrives, the last thing we might feel we need is a "character" running the show.
The pollsters seem to think it's an issue and Joe Public seems to have a view. I have more sympathy with your take on the issue but share Joe Public's opinion on it, important or otherwise.
It has worked in the past, Blair, Cameron etc. But Harold v Heath in 1970 or Sunny Jim v Mrs T. I would dispute. I would also argue Kinnock was more "charismatic" than Mrs T. Just not the sort of "charismatic", people warmed too.
"Bolton claimed that during a 2018 phone call Erdoğan sent Trump a memo insisting that the scandal-hit Halkbank was innocent. 'Trump then told Erdoğan he would take care of things, explaining that the [New York] southern district prosecutors were not his people but were Obama people, a problem that would be fixed when they were replaced by his people,' Bolton wrote.
Bloomberg has reported that in April 2019, Trump instructed Treasury secretary Steven Mnuchin and Attorney General William Barr to address Erdoğan’s request that Halkbank avoid charges.
Halkbank, one of Turkey’s largest banks, has been under investigation by US prosecutors since a Turkish inquiry in 2013 found it was used to launder up to $20bn in a scheme to evade US sanctions on Iran. High-ranking Turkish officials allegedly exported gold to Tehran via the UAE in return for Iranian oil and gas.
(...) Two men with close ties to Erdoğan’s inner circle – Reza Zarrab, a flamboyant Turkish-Iranian businessman, and Mehmet Atilla, Halkbank’s deputy chief executive – have been sentenced to jail time in the US.
(...) The case has shed light on the strong ties between Turkey and the Trump administration: Zarrab, who led a tabloid lifestyle of pop stars, yachts and cars and worked out of Istanbul’s Trump Tower, asked the former New York mayor Rudy Giuliani to represent him in 2016, shortly before Giuliani became the president’s attorney."
Same story as when the thieving gits went after Standard Chartered. I don't see that it's any of America's business if another country wants to do business with Iran.
Or, indeed, Banque National de Paris.
However, that's not the issue.
The United States can, within its powers, order US banks not to deal with Halkbank. A bank like Halkbank will struggle to exist if it is cut off from the US Dollar system.
I think Starmer is to some extent benefitting from not being Corbyn. I'm tempted to say that Labour have jumped straight from Foot to Blair, but actually I think Starmer is quite left-wing. Alastair Campbell was correct to say that we need to wait and see what Starmer presents to the country. Plenty of time for that, but it will be interesting to see what sorts of things Starmer proposes.
I'd suggest Starmer slots in rather nicely as Kinnock.
Like going from Hague to Cameron
Isn't MiliEd more like Hague? Far from an idiot, but a bit comfort blankety for the party, not actually up to the job of leading, but back in a substantial role later.
Corbyn is much more of an IDS analogue; party membership going totally self-indulgent, MPs working out pretty quickly he is a dud. The difference being what the party rules allow to happen after that.
So is Starmer a Howard or a Cameron? We shall see, but I'm inclined to think he's closer to the second.
Aren't these the people who voted in 2016, don't normally vote in Westminster elections because "they're all the same" or because the BNP aren't standing in their constituency, but turned out to "get Brexit done"? The question is what does Cummings dangle in front of them next time. Hanging?
I think Starmer is to some extent benefitting from not being Corbyn. I'm tempted to say that Labour have jumped straight from Foot to Blair, but actually I think Starmer is quite left-wing. Alastair Campbell was correct to say that we need to wait and see what Starmer presents to the country. Plenty of time for that, but it will be interesting to see what sorts of things Starmer proposes.
I'd suggest Starmer slots in rather nicely as Kinnock.
I think your suggestion does not hold water. For whatever reason English voters prefer an English leader. Both Kinnock and Brown were derided in many instances because of this. John Smith less so and Blair was seen as English.
Also to become leader of the opposition in 5 years is impressive as is his backstory. We are also told that politicians who have never done anything else are out of touch. SKS has had an an impressive career outside of politics. He is a breath of fresh air in comparison to our current leader and the leader of the USA.
I think Brown it was a two way thing - there were people calling him 'Broon' and there were a lot of other people for whom his Scottishness was part of the 'prudence' 'dour' 'clunking fist' image for austere economic competence that he had in the early years.
This actually got me thinking. How many Scottish PMs have won elections?
Well, it depends of course on what you mean by Scottish. You could include Macmillan and Baldwin in that list if you wanted to stretch the criteria a bit. Blair, certainly. But I don’t think a Scottish PM sitting for a Scottish seat has won a general election since World War Two. In that time Home and Brown are the only two Scots I can think of anyway who meet that criteria. Smith of course almost certainly would have won an election had he not died.
Even before World War Two the picture isn’t rosy. MacDonald was Scottish of course, bat sat for Seaham in the only general election he won. Asquith by contrast sat for North East Fife, but was a Yorkshireman. Campbell-Bannerman meets the criteria, and Rosebery was a Scottish peer. Balfour was Scottish, but as PM sat for a seat in Manchester and as Leader of the Opposition for the City of London.
I’ve got to give this to Yorkcity, he seems to be right.
Aren't these the people who voted in 2016, don't normally vote in Westminster elections because "they're all the same" or because the BNP aren't standing in their constituency, but turned out to "get Brexit done"? The question is what does Cummings dangle in front of them next time. Hanging?
When you say ‘Cummings dangle in front of them next time. Hanging?’ are we talking policies, suicides or a lynching?
I think Starmer is to some extent benefitting from not being Corbyn. I'm tempted to say that Labour have jumped straight from Foot to Blair, but actually I think Starmer is quite left-wing. Alastair Campbell was correct to say that we need to wait and see what Starmer presents to the country. Plenty of time for that, but it will be interesting to see what sorts of things Starmer proposes.
I'd suggest Starmer slots in rather nicely as Kinnock.
I think your suggestion does not hold water. For whatever reason English voters prefer an English leader. Both Kinnock and Brown were derided in many instances because of this. John Smith less so and Blair was seen as English.
Also to become leader of the opposition in 5 years is impressive as is his backstory. We are also told that politicians who have never done anything else are out of touch. SKS has had an an impressive career outside of politics. He is a breath of fresh air in comparison to our current leader and the leader of the USA.
I think Brown it was a two way thing - there were people calling him 'Broon' and there were a lot of other people for whom his Scottishness was part of the 'prudence' 'dour' 'clunking fist' image for austere economic competence that he had in the early years.
This actually got me thinking. How many Scottish PMs have won elections?
Well, it depends of course on what you mean by Scottish. You could include Macmillan and Baldwin in that list if you wanted to stretch the criteria a bit. Blair, certainly. But I don’t think a Scottish PM sitting for a Scottish seat has won a general election since World War Two. In that time Home and Brown are the only two Scots I can think of anyway who meet that criteria. Smith of course almost certainly would have won an election had he not died.
Even before World War Two the picture isn’t rosy. MacDonald was Scottish of course, bat sat for Seaham in the only general election he won. Asquith by contrast sat for North East Fife, but was a Yorkshireman. Campbell-Bannerman meets the criteria, and Rosebery was a Scottish peer. Balfour was Scottish, but as PM sat for a seat in Manchester and as Leader of the Opposition for the City of London.
I’ve got to give this to Yorkcity, he seems to be right.
Cameron is a Scottish name is it not? I've no idea of David Cameron's precise family history.
I think Starmer is to some extent benefitting from not being Corbyn. I'm tempted to say that Labour have jumped straight from Foot to Blair, but actually I think Starmer is quite left-wing. Alastair Campbell was correct to say that we need to wait and see what Starmer presents to the country. Plenty of time for that, but it will be interesting to see what sorts of things Starmer proposes.
I'd suggest Starmer slots in rather nicely as Kinnock.
I think your suggestion does not hold water. For whatever reason English voters prefer an English leader. Both Kinnock and Brown were derided in many instances because of this. John Smith less so and Blair was seen as English.
Also to become leader of the opposition in 5 years is impressive as is his backstory. We are also told that politicians who have never done anything else are out of touch. SKS has had an an impressive career outside of politics. He is a breath of fresh air in comparison to our current leader and the leader of the USA.
I think Brown it was a two way thing - there were people calling him 'Broon' and there were a lot of other people for whom his Scottishness was part of the 'prudence' 'dour' 'clunking fist' image for austere economic competence that he had in the early years.
This actually got me thinking. How many Scottish PMs have won elections?
Well, it depends of course on what you mean by Scottish. You could include Macmillan and Baldwin in that list if you wanted to stretch the criteria a bit. Blair, certainly. But I don’t think a Scottish PM sitting for a Scottish seat has won a general election since World War Two. In that time Home and Brown are the only two Scots I can think of anyway who meet that criteria. Smith of course almost certainly would have won an election had he not died.
Even before World War Two the picture isn’t rosy. MacDonald was Scottish of course, bat sat for Seaham in the only general election he won. Asquith by contrast sat for North East Fife, but was a Yorkshireman. Campbell-Bannerman meets the criteria, and Rosebery was a Scottish peer. Balfour was Scottish, but as PM sat for a seat in Manchester and as Leader of the Opposition for the City of London.
I’ve got to give this to Yorkcity, he seems to be right.
Wasn’t Bonar Law from Nova Scotia?
Bonar Law deserves a novel in his own right on how complex his background was. But yes, he was from Canada (New Brunswick) of mixed Scottish and Irish descent and I think was the only British PM before the current one born outside the British Isles (happy to be corrected on that if I’m wrong).
What is interesting is I hadn’t realised he sat for a Glaswegian seat when he was PM. I thought he sat for Bootle under Derby’s patronage, but apparently he changed late in life.
The promise will make all of tomorrows front pages. The apology on September 7th, when they don't deliver will just make page 11 of The Daily Telegraph.
I think Starmer is to some extent benefitting from not being Corbyn. I'm tempted to say that Labour have jumped straight from Foot to Blair, but actually I think Starmer is quite left-wing. Alastair Campbell was correct to say that we need to wait and see what Starmer presents to the country. Plenty of time for that, but it will be interesting to see what sorts of things Starmer proposes.
I'd suggest Starmer slots in rather nicely as Kinnock.
I think your suggestion does not hold water. For whatever reason English voters prefer an English leader. Both Kinnock and Brown were derided in many instances because of this. John Smith less so and Blair was seen as English.
Also to become leader of the opposition in 5 years is impressive as is his backstory. We are also told that politicians who have never done anything else are out of touch. SKS has had an an impressive career outside of politics. He is a breath of fresh air in comparison to our current leader and the leader of the USA.
I think Brown it was a two way thing - there were people calling him 'Broon' and there were a lot of other people for whom his Scottishness was part of the 'prudence' 'dour' 'clunking fist' image for austere economic competence that he had in the early years.
This actually got me thinking. How many Scottish PMs have won elections?
Well, it depends of course on what you mean by Scottish. You could include Macmillan and Baldwin in that list if you wanted to stretch the criteria a bit. Blair, certainly. But I don’t think a Scottish PM sitting for a Scottish seat has won a general election since World War Two. In that time Home and Brown are the only two Scots I can think of anyway who meet that criteria. Smith of course almost certainly would have won an election had he not died.
Even before World War Two the picture isn’t rosy. MacDonald was Scottish of course, bat sat for Seaham in the only general election he won. Asquith by contrast sat for North East Fife, but was a Yorkshireman. Campbell-Bannerman meets the criteria, and Rosebery was a Scottish peer. Balfour was Scottish, but as PM sat for a seat in Manchester and as Leader of the Opposition for the City of London.
I’ve got to give this to Yorkcity, he seems to be right.
Wasn’t Bonar Law from Nova Scotia?
Bonar Law deserves a novel in his own right on how complex his background was. But yes, he was from Canada (New Brunswick) of mixed Scottish and Irish descent and I think was the only British PM before the current one born outside the British Isles (happy to be corrected on that if I’m wrong).
What is interesting is I hadn’t realised he sat for a Glaswegian seat when he was PM. I thought he sat for Bootle under Derby’s patronage, but apparently he changed late in life.
So he could be added to the list.
What I only recently realized was that Bonar (fnaar) is a given name, I thought he was called e.g. John Bonar Law.
"Bolton claimed that during a 2018 phone call Erdoğan sent Trump a memo insisting that the scandal-hit Halkbank was innocent. 'Trump then told Erdoğan he would take care of things, explaining that the [New York] southern district prosecutors were not his people but were Obama people, a problem that would be fixed when they were replaced by his people,' Bolton wrote.
Bloomberg has reported that in April 2019, Trump instructed Treasury secretary Steven Mnuchin and Attorney General William Barr to address Erdoğan’s request that Halkbank avoid charges.
Halkbank, one of Turkey’s largest banks, has been under investigation by US prosecutors since a Turkish inquiry in 2013 found it was used to launder up to $20bn in a scheme to evade US sanctions on Iran. High-ranking Turkish officials allegedly exported gold to Tehran via the UAE in return for Iranian oil and gas.
(...) Two men with close ties to Erdoğan’s inner circle – Reza Zarrab, a flamboyant Turkish-Iranian businessman, and Mehmet Atilla, Halkbank’s deputy chief executive – have been sentenced to jail time in the US.
(...) The case has shed light on the strong ties between Turkey and the Trump administration: Zarrab, who led a tabloid lifestyle of pop stars, yachts and cars and worked out of Istanbul’s Trump Tower, asked the former New York mayor Rudy Giuliani to represent him in 2016, shortly before Giuliani became the president’s attorney."
Same story as when the thieving gits went after Standard Chartered. I don't see that it's any of America's business if another country wants to do business with Iran.
Or, indeed, Banque National de Paris.
However, that's not the issue.
The United States can, within its powers, order US banks not to deal with Halkbank. A bank like Halkbank will struggle to exist if it is cut off from the US Dollar system.
If you need USD cleared then the US can do whatever the damn hell it wants to you!
All very good until they one day take down free speech that you happen to like.
What did she say this time?
Can’t stand her but, yes, the people cheering this on will,be the same crying bitter salt tears when their heroes get banned. I just blocked her on Twitter. Job done
I think Starmer is to some extent benefitting from not being Corbyn. I'm tempted to say that Labour have jumped straight from Foot to Blair, but actually I think Starmer is quite left-wing. Alastair Campbell was correct to say that we need to wait and see what Starmer presents to the country. Plenty of time for that, but it will be interesting to see what sorts of things Starmer proposes.
I'd suggest Starmer slots in rather nicely as Kinnock.
I think your suggestion does not hold water. For whatever reason English voters prefer an English leader. Both Kinnock and Brown were derided in many instances because of this. John Smith less so and Blair was seen as English.
Also to become leader of the opposition in 5 years is impressive as is his backstory. We are also told that politicians who have never done anything else are out of touch. SKS has had an an impressive career outside of politics. He is a breath of fresh air in comparison to our current leader and the leader of the USA.
I think Brown it was a two way thing - there were people calling him 'Broon' and there were a lot of other people for whom his Scottishness was part of the 'prudence' 'dour' 'clunking fist' image for austere economic competence that he had in the early years.
This actually got me thinking. How many Scottish PMs have won elections?
Well, it depends of course on what you mean by Scottish. You could include Macmillan and Baldwin in that list if you wanted to stretch the criteria a bit. Blair, certainly. But I don’t think a Scottish PM sitting for a Scottish seat has won a general election since World War Two. In that time Home and Brown are the only two Scots I can think of anyway who meet that criteria. Smith of course almost certainly would have won an election had he not died.
Even before World War Two the picture isn’t rosy. MacDonald was Scottish of course, bat sat for Seaham in the only general election he won. Asquith by contrast sat for North East Fife, but was a Yorkshireman. Campbell-Bannerman meets the criteria, and Rosebery was a Scottish peer. Balfour was Scottish, but as PM sat for a seat in Manchester and as Leader of the Opposition for the City of London.
I’ve got to give this to Yorkcity, he seems to be right.
Wasn’t Bonar Law from Nova Scotia?
Bonar Law deserves a novel in his own right on how complex his background was. But yes, he was from Canada (New Brunswick) of mixed Scottish and Irish descent and I think was the only British PM before the current one born outside the British Isles (happy to be corrected on that if I’m wrong).
What is interesting is I hadn’t realised he sat for a Glaswegian seat when he was PM. I thought he sat for Bootle under Derby’s patronage, but apparently he changed late in life.
So he could be added to the list.
What I only recently realized was that Bonar (fnaar) is a given name, I thought he was called e.g. John Bonar Law.
There’s no chance of a full return for schools with even a 1 metre rule and Williamson saying they can have protective bubbles for more than 15 children is nonsense .
In a cabinet of low quality Williamson makes the rest look like they have star quality !
I think Starmer is to some extent benefitting from not being Corbyn. I'm tempted to say that Labour have jumped straight from Foot to Blair, but actually I think Starmer is quite left-wing. Alastair Campbell was correct to say that we need to wait and see what Starmer presents to the country. Plenty of time for that, but it will be interesting to see what sorts of things Starmer proposes.
I'd suggest Starmer slots in rather nicely as Kinnock.
I think your suggestion does not hold water. For whatever reason English voters prefer an English leader. Both Kinnock and Brown were derided in many instances because of this. John Smith less so and Blair was seen as English.
Also to become leader of the opposition in 5 years is impressive as is his backstory. We are also told that politicians who have never done anything else are out of touch. SKS has had an an impressive career outside of politics. He is a breath of fresh air in comparison to our current leader and the leader of the USA.
I think Brown it was a two way thing - there were people calling him 'Broon' and there were a lot of other people for whom his Scottishness was part of the 'prudence' 'dour' 'clunking fist' image for austere economic competence that he had in the early years.
This actually got me thinking. How many Scottish PMs have won elections?
Well, it depends of course on what you mean by Scottish. You could include Macmillan and Baldwin in that list if you wanted to stretch the criteria a bit. Blair, certainly. But I don’t think a Scottish PM sitting for a Scottish seat has won a general election since World War Two. In that time Home and Brown are the only two Scots I can think of anyway who meet that criteria. Smith of course almost certainly would have won an election had he not died.
Even before World War Two the picture isn’t rosy. MacDonald was Scottish of course, bat sat for Seaham in the only general election he won. Asquith by contrast sat for North East Fife, but was a Yorkshireman. Campbell-Bannerman meets the criteria, and Rosebery was a Scottish peer. Balfour was Scottish, but as PM sat for a seat in Manchester and as Leader of the Opposition for the City of London.
I’ve got to give this to Yorkcity, he seems to be right.
Cameron is a Scottish name is it not? I've no idea of David Cameron's precise family history.
That is about as close to Scottish as he is a Scottish surname , ie 0%. You only need to look at his pansy baw face to know.
Now now Malc, that's no way to speak about your fellow countryman.
"Bolton claimed that during a 2018 phone call Erdoğan sent Trump a memo insisting that the scandal-hit Halkbank was innocent. 'Trump then told Erdoğan he would take care of things, explaining that the [New York] southern district prosecutors were not his people but were Obama people, a problem that would be fixed when they were replaced by his people,' Bolton wrote.
Bloomberg has reported that in April 2019, Trump instructed Treasury secretary Steven Mnuchin and Attorney General William Barr to address Erdoğan’s request that Halkbank avoid charges.
Halkbank, one of Turkey’s largest banks, has been under investigation by US prosecutors since a Turkish inquiry in 2013 found it was used to launder up to $20bn in a scheme to evade US sanctions on Iran. High-ranking Turkish officials allegedly exported gold to Tehran via the UAE in return for Iranian oil and gas.
(...) Two men with close ties to Erdoğan’s inner circle – Reza Zarrab, a flamboyant Turkish-Iranian businessman, and Mehmet Atilla, Halkbank’s deputy chief executive – have been sentenced to jail time in the US.
(...) The case has shed light on the strong ties between Turkey and the Trump administration: Zarrab, who led a tabloid lifestyle of pop stars, yachts and cars and worked out of Istanbul’s Trump Tower, asked the former New York mayor Rudy Giuliani to represent him in 2016, shortly before Giuliani became the president’s attorney."
Same story as when the thieving gits went after Standard Chartered. I don't see that it's any of America's business if another country wants to do business with Iran.
Or, indeed, Banque National de Paris.
However, that's not the issue.
The United States can, within its powers, order US banks not to deal with Halkbank. A bank like Halkbank will struggle to exist if it is cut off from the US Dollar system.
I know. It's highway robbery basically. BP was another incidence. One of the reasons I find it difficult to mourn the USA's struggles to maintain 'global leadership'.
This is going to be an interesting political battleground in the presidential election.
Americans Like The Ideas Behind Defunding The Police More Than The Slogan Itself https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/americans-like-the-ideas-behind-defunding-the-police-more-than-the-slogan-itself/ ...However, “defund the police” is also a simplistic slogan, and the poll results above do not capture public opinion on the movement’s more concrete policy goals. Specifically, defunding the police is only half of its goal; activists also want to reallocate the money spent on policing to other parts of the social safety net. Indeed, in those very same polls, some of these policy ideas enjoy far more backing among the American public than the slogan does — though the level of support does vary pretty widely depending on the details of the proposal.
For instance, when Reuters/Ipsos queried people about “proposals to move some money currently going to police budgets into better officer training, local programs for homelessness, mental health assistance, and domestic violence,” a whopping 76 percent of people who were familiar with those proposals supported them, with only 22 percent opposed. Democrats and independents supported these proposals in huge numbers while Republicans were split, 51 percent in favor to 47 percent opposed...
I think Starmer is to some extent benefitting from not being Corbyn. I'm tempted to say that Labour have jumped straight from Foot to Blair, but actually I think Starmer is quite left-wing. Alastair Campbell was correct to say that we need to wait and see what Starmer presents to the country. Plenty of time for that, but it will be interesting to see what sorts of things Starmer proposes.
I'd suggest Starmer slots in rather nicely as Kinnock.
I think your suggestion does not hold water. For whatever reason English voters prefer an English leader. Both Kinnock and Brown were derided in many instances because of this. John Smith less so and Blair was seen as English.
Also to become leader of the opposition in 5 years is impressive as is his backstory. We are also told that politicians who have never done anything else are out of touch. SKS has had an an impressive career outside of politics. He is a breath of fresh air in comparison to our current leader and the leader of the USA.
I think Brown it was a two way thing - there were people calling him 'Broon' and there were a lot of other people for whom his Scottishness was part of the 'prudence' 'dour' 'clunking fist' image for austere economic competence that he had in the early years.
This actually got me thinking. How many Scottish PMs have won elections?
Well, it depends of course on what you mean by Scottish. You could include Macmillan and Baldwin in that list if you wanted to stretch the criteria a bit. Blair, certainly. But I don’t think a Scottish PM sitting for a Scottish seat has won a general election since World War Two. In that time Home and Brown are the only two Scots I can think of anyway who meet that criteria. Smith of course almost certainly would have won an election had he not died.
Even before World War Two the picture isn’t rosy. MacDonald was Scottish of course, bat sat for Seaham in the only general election he won. Asquith by contrast sat for North East Fife, but was a Yorkshireman. Campbell-Bannerman meets the criteria, and Rosebery was a Scottish peer. Balfour was Scottish, but as PM sat for a seat in Manchester and as Leader of the Opposition for the City of London.
I’ve got to give this to Yorkcity, he seems to be right.
Cameron is a Scottish name is it not? I've no idea of David Cameron's precise family history.
It is indeed. This came up in the referendum campaign now you remind me
I think Starmer is to some extent benefitting from not being Corbyn. I'm tempted to say that Labour have jumped straight from Foot to Blair, but actually I think Starmer is quite left-wing. Alastair Campbell was correct to say that we need to wait and see what Starmer presents to the country. Plenty of time for that, but it will be interesting to see what sorts of things Starmer proposes.
I'd suggest Starmer slots in rather nicely as Kinnock.
I think your suggestion does not hold water. For whatever reason English voters prefer an English leader. Both Kinnock and Brown were derided in many instances because of this. John Smith less so and Blair was seen as English.
Also to become leader of the opposition in 5 years is impressive as is his backstory. We are also told that politicians who have never done anything else are out of touch. SKS has had an an impressive career outside of politics. He is a breath of fresh air in comparison to our current leader and the leader of the USA.
I think Brown it was a two way thing - there were people calling him 'Broon' and there were a lot of other people for whom his Scottishness was part of the 'prudence' 'dour' 'clunking fist' image for austere economic competence that he had in the early years.
This actually got me thinking. How many Scottish PMs have won elections?
Well, it depends of course on what you mean by Scottish. You could include Macmillan and Baldwin in that list if you wanted to stretch the criteria a bit. Blair, certainly. But I don’t think a Scottish PM sitting for a Scottish seat has won a general election since World War Two. In that time Home and Brown are the only two Scots I can think of anyway who meet that criteria. Smith of course almost certainly would have won an election had he not died.
Even before World War Two the picture isn’t rosy. MacDonald was Scottish of course, bat sat for Seaham in the only general election he won. Asquith by contrast sat for North East Fife, but was a Yorkshireman. Campbell-Bannerman meets the criteria, and Rosebery was a Scottish peer. Balfour was Scottish, but as PM sat for a seat in Manchester and as Leader of the Opposition for the City of London.
I’ve got to give this to Yorkcity, he seems to be right.
Wasn’t Bonar Law from Nova Scotia?
Bonar Law deserves a novel in his own right on how complex his background was. But yes, he was from Canada (New Brunswick) of mixed Scottish and Irish descent and I think was the only British PM before the current one born outside the British Isles (happy to be corrected on that if I’m wrong).
What is interesting is I hadn’t realised he sat for a Glaswegian seat when he was PM. I thought he sat for Bootle under Derby’s patronage, but apparently he changed late in life.
So he could be added to the list.
What I only recently realized was that Bonar (fnaar) is a given name, I thought he was called e.g. John Bonar Law.
All very good until they one day take down free speech that you happen to like.
What did she say this time?
Can’t stand her but, yes, the people cheering this on will,be the same crying bitter salt tears when their heroes get banned. I just blocked her on Twitter. Job done
It's a potentially troubling decision for just those reasons (and having never followed her at all, it's hard for me to judge this case), but there is surely a level of conduct beyond which they have to act ?
I think Starmer is to some extent benefitting from not being Corbyn. I'm tempted to say that Labour have jumped straight from Foot to Blair, but actually I think Starmer is quite left-wing. Alastair Campbell was correct to say that we need to wait and see what Starmer presents to the country. Plenty of time for that, but it will be interesting to see what sorts of things Starmer proposes.
I'd suggest Starmer slots in rather nicely as Kinnock.
I think your suggestion does not hold water. For whatever reason English voters prefer an English leader. Both Kinnock and Brown were derided in many instances because of this. John Smith less so and Blair was seen as English.
Also to become leader of the opposition in 5 years is impressive as is his backstory. We are also told that politicians who have never done anything else are out of touch. SKS has had an an impressive career outside of politics. He is a breath of fresh air in comparison to our current leader and the leader of the USA.
I think Brown it was a two way thing - there were people calling him 'Broon' and there were a lot of other people for whom his Scottishness was part of the 'prudence' 'dour' 'clunking fist' image for austere economic competence that he had in the early years.
This actually got me thinking. How many Scottish PMs have won elections?
Well, it depends of course on what you mean by Scottish. You could include Macmillan and Baldwin in that list if you wanted to stretch the criteria a bit. Blair, certainly. But I don’t think a Scottish PM sitting for a Scottish seat has won a general election since World War Two. In that time Home and Brown are the only two Scots I can think of anyway who meet that criteria. Smith of course almost certainly would have won an election had he not died.
Even before World War Two the picture isn’t rosy. MacDonald was Scottish of course, bat sat for Seaham in the only general election he won. Asquith by contrast sat for North East Fife, but was a Yorkshireman. Campbell-Bannerman meets the criteria, and Rosebery was a Scottish peer. Balfour was Scottish, but as PM sat for a seat in Manchester and as Leader of the Opposition for the City of London.
I’ve got to give this to Yorkcity, he seems to be right.
Cameron is a Scottish name is it not? I've no idea of David Cameron's precise family history.
It is indeed. This came up in the referendum campaign now you remind me
On the day the threat level across the nation comes down to 3, all shops about to open across the nation, schools going back in Wales, tourism opening in Scotland and Wales by mid july, and NI reducing social distancing to 1 metre when schools go back there
So across the nation Boris, Nicola, Drakeford, and Foster walked in lockstep on 'stay at home' and subsequently have diverged on the margins and are now very much singing from the same page
Yes mistakes have been made, and that was inevitable, but the economy is looking to a bounce back in the coming months to mitigate some of tbe economic damage seen across most nations in europe and generally across the world
The French schools are open with mandatory attendance next week. Why should our schools not be fully open in September?
Yes. The infection and death rates in the UK are currently about 4 times higher than in France, so it's likely that we will be where they are now by mid-to-late July.
September shouldn't be a problem, and it shouldn't need drastic spacing measures (though even 1 m would be difficult with the classrooms and furniture schools have).
The French schools are open with mandatory attendance next week. Why should our schools not be fully open in September?
Because blue tick dickheads on twitter and in the MSM know better.
Schools cannot reopen fully while social distancing guidelines remain -- just think about how you'd have fitted everyone in at your old school if you had to keep 2m from anyone else -- and if you look at gov.uk announcements, it was *never* intended that schools should fully reopen before September anyway, just for some but not all school years.
All very good until they one day take down free speech that you happen to like.
What did she say this time?
Can’t stand her but, yes, the people cheering this on will,be the same crying bitter salt tears when their heroes get banned. I just blocked her on Twitter. Job done
It's a potentially troubling decision for just those reasons (and having never followed her at all, it's hard for me to judge this case), but there is surely a level of conduct beyond which they have to act ?
Yes, I am sure there is. But twitter does seem to have a rather elastic approach to who it bans and where they sit politically.
On the day the threat level across the nation comes down to 3, all shops about to open across the nation, schools going back in Wales, tourism opening in Scotland and Wales by mid july, and NI reducing social distancing to 1 metre when schools go back there
So across the nation Boris, Nicola, Drakeford, and Foster walked in lockstep on 'stay at home' and subsequently have diverged on the margins and are now very much singing from the same page
Yes mistakes have been made, and that was inevitable, but the economy is looking to a bounce back in the coming months to mitigate some of tbe economic damage seen across most nations in europe and generally across the world
"Bounce back". Big G you share Johnson's cheery optimistism, and I respect you for it. I am not sure I concur with your bullishness.
All very good until they one day take down free speech that you happen to like.
What did she say this time?
Can’t stand her but, yes, the people cheering this on will,be the same crying bitter salt tears when their heroes get banned. I just blocked her on Twitter. Job done
It's a potentially troubling decision for just those reasons (and having never followed her at all, it's hard for me to judge this case), but there is surely a level of conduct beyond which they have to act ?
You would hardly believe some of the stuff she has posted over the years.
The problem for Starmer is that while Blair reformed his party with New Labour he has not yet moved Labour to the centre to anywhere near the same extent, so while it is possible voters might trust him to be PM in a hung parliament with the LDs and SNP they will not trust giving Labour a majority
Also worth mentioning the Shadow Cabinet, which, although vastly improved since the dismal Corbyn rag-bag, still looks lightweight and doesn't look like a government-in-waiting. The interview with Ed Balls on WATO today was a stark reminder that Labour used to have some serious Shad Cab figures.
To be fair, with experience and more exposure the frontbench team will no doubt improve. Nonetheless, Starmer could do with making a few forensic cuts. I'd suggest ditching RL-B would be a good start.
I think that's fair comment. But I also think that with exposure the front bench team will be seen to be stronger than their Tory counterparts within a couple of years. Interestingly one who has had exposure recently, David Lammy, has in my opinion surpassed expectations, being very sensible on BLM issues including statues - a voice of reason.
R L-B had to be given a job as runner-up for the leadership, really. Given that she is up against the nonentity Gavin Williamson, if she doesn't outperform him I would expect Starmer to dispense with her services after a year or so.
Lammy is an out and out racist. He doesn't even deserve to be in Parliament let alone in the Shadow Cabinet.
You've written this before about Lammy (I ignored it then), and I think it's a shameful slur. Do you know him? Do you really think the people of Tottenham would continue to elect him (76% in 2019) if he were a racist, or are you saying that they too are racist, or are they just blind to their MP's racism?
On the day the threat level across the nation comes down to 3, all shops about to open across the nation, schools going back in Wales, tourism opening in Scotland and Wales by mid july, and NI reducing social distancing to 1 metre when schools go back there
So across the nation Boris, Nicola, Drakeford, and Foster walked in lockstep on 'stay at home' and subsequently have diverged on the margins and are now very much singing from the same page
Yes mistakes have been made, and that was inevitable, but the economy is looking to a bounce back in the coming months to mitigate some of tbe economic damage seen across most nations in europe and generally across the world
"Bounce back". Big G you share Johnson's cheery optimistism, and I respect you for it. I am not sure I concur with your bullishness.
It is essential that the nation starts to lift the gloom and get out and spend
It is time to pick out the positives, we all need hope
All very good until they one day take down free speech that you happen to like.
What did she say this time?
Can’t stand her but, yes, the people cheering this on will,be the same crying bitter salt tears when their heroes get banned. I just blocked her on Twitter. Job done
She can set up her own blog and say whatever she likes on it just as OGH has done.
She has no right to be on Twitter if she breaks their rules any more than Martin Day has a right to be here if he breaks OGH's.
On the day the threat level across the nation comes down to 3, all shops about to open across the nation, schools going back in Wales, tourism opening in Scotland and Wales by mid july, and NI reducing social distancing to 1 metre when schools go back there
So across the nation Boris, Nicola, Drakeford, and Foster walked in lockstep on 'stay at home' and subsequently have diverged on the margins and are now very much singing from the same page
Yes mistakes have been made, and that was inevitable, but the economy is looking to a bounce back in the coming months to mitigate some of tbe economic damage seen across most nations in europe and generally across the world
"Bounce back". Big G you share Johnson's cheery optimistism, and I respect you for it. I am not sure I concur with your bullishness.
It is essential that the nation starts to lift the gloom and get out and spend
It is time to pick out the positives, we all need hope
Get out and spend? My wife singlehandedly kept the nation afloat through lockdown!
Sam Coates (Sky) making a huge case for private schools though I am not sure he realises it
Private schools?
My nose twitches and I look up.
He was saying how throughout lockdown private schools have continued their tuition through zoom etc and their students have benefitted by this while the state schools have not
Sam Coates (Sky) making a huge case for private schools though I am not sure he realises it
Private schools?
My nose twitches and I look up.
He was saying how throughout lockdown private schools have continued their tuition through zoom etc and their students have benefitted by this while the state schools have not
I don’t think that’s quite true. I have been teaching online a lot, for example. And I know of a state school on the Derbyshire border that swears by zoom teaching.
What I can say for definite is it would be a bloody sight easier to teach a titchy private sector class on Teams or Zoom or Google Meet than a state school class of 30+. My largest class is 34 and it’s damn near impossible to teach them online.
Sam Coates (Sky) making a huge case for private schools though I am not sure he realises it
Private schools?
My nose twitches and I look up.
He was saying how throughout lockdown private schools have continued their tuition through zoom etc and their students have benefitted by this while the state schools have not
Yes. Money talks. Gap widens.
As the gap widens, money talks all the more - and the gap widens.
The wind will change on this one day, I'm sure of it.
Sam Coates (Sky) making a huge case for private schools though I am not sure he realises it
Private schools?
My nose twitches and I look up.
He was saying how throughout lockdown private schools have continued their tuition through zoom etc and their students have benefitted by this while the state schools have not
It's not uniformly true, my eldest daughter in year 9 at a comprehensive has been getting a fair amount of online classes. But I am sure than in general the educational social apartheid that we enjoy in this country has been further exacerbated.
Sam Coates (Sky) making a huge case for private schools though I am not sure he realises it
Private schools?
My nose twitches and I look up.
He was saying how throughout lockdown private schools have continued their tuition through zoom etc and their students have benefitted by this while the state schools have not
I don’t think that’s quite true. I have been teaching online a lot, for example. And I know of a state school on the Derbyshire border that swears by zoom teaching.
What I can say for definite is it would be a bloody sight easier to teach a titchy private sector class on Teams or Zoom or Google Meet than a state school class of 30+. My largest class is 34 and it’s damn near impossible to teach them online.
I have no doubt you are correct but Coates really did not qualify his statement as you have done
All very good until they one day take down free speech that you happen to like.
What did she say this time?
Can’t stand her but, yes, the people cheering this on will,be the same crying bitter salt tears when their heroes get banned. I just blocked her on Twitter. Job done
She can set up her own blog and say whatever she likes on it just as OGH has done.
She has no right to be on Twitter if she breaks their rules any more than Martin Day has a right to be here if he breaks OGH's.
I did follow her as i find people who are not afraid to speak their mind interesting. This is not a right wing thing - I have attended Ken Livingstone talks as well for the same reason. From what I can recall , she got as good as she gave and just stated what may be considered forthright and insensitive posts from time to time but not sure they were hateful. Its a pity Twitter have done this as I cannot see there is a genuine case of breakign their rules just pressure from her many opponents
Sam Coates (Sky) making a huge case for private schools though I am not sure he realises it
Private schools?
My nose twitches and I look up.
He was saying how throughout lockdown private schools have continued their tuition through zoom etc and their students have benefitted by this while the state schools have not
It's not uniformly true, my eldest daughter in year 9 at a comprehensive has been getting a fair amount of online classes. But I am sure than in general the educational social apartheid that we enjoy in this country has been further exacerbated.
Another thought is that if you are at a private school your parents are likely to be able to afford nice tech. A laptop, fast internet, a printer. A space to work in. And where they can’t, schools will usually find a way to help as only small numbers are involved.
Whereas a single parent in a small council flat on benefits - much harder. No laptop, no spare room, and the internet is under pressure all day if they even have it.
Many schools have been buying laptops to close the gap but it isn’t foolproof. Moreover, it’s killing them financially.
All very good until they one day take down free speech that you happen to like.
What did she say this time?
Can’t stand her but, yes, the people cheering this on will,be the same crying bitter salt tears when their heroes get banned. I just blocked her on Twitter. Job done
She can set up her own blog and say whatever she likes on it just as OGH has done.
She has no right to be on Twitter if she breaks their rules any more than Martin Day has a right to be here if he breaks OGH's.
I did follow her as i find people who are not afraid to speak their mind interesting. This is not a right wing thing - I have attended Ken Livingstone talks as well for the same reason. From what I can recall , she got as good as she gave and just stated what may be considered forthright and insensitive posts from time to time but not sure they were hateful. Its a pity Twitter have done this as I cannot see there is a genuine case of breakign their rules just pressure from her many opponents
Did her 'migrants are like cockroaches' stuff pass you by, or do you just not think it's hateful?
Sam Coates (Sky) making a huge case for private schools though I am not sure he realises it
Private schools?
My nose twitches and I look up.
He was saying how throughout lockdown private schools have continued their tuition through zoom etc and their students have benefitted by this while the state schools have not
I don’t think that’s quite true. I have been teaching online a lot, for example. And I know of a state school on the Derbyshire border that swears by zoom teaching.
What I can say for definite is it would be a bloody sight easier to teach a titchy private sector class on Teams or Zoom or Google Meet than a state school class of 30+. My largest class is 34 and it’s damn near impossible to teach them online.
I have no doubt you are correct but Coates really did not qualify his statement as you have done
To an extent, he is right. For all the reasons I give upthread private schools that ride this storm out - many will not - will be far better placed to resume teaching next term. If exams go ahead, we’ll be looking at quite a gulf between private and state - more than usual.
Will we see any principled and courageous "I'm no fan of Hopkins but ..." contributions?
EDIT -
Sorry, did not check before posting. They are coming thick and fast!
Thick is a little unfair.
Oh well, if you insist.
- The Woke have come for Katie. All are Woke today.
I have always felt that Katie Hopkins' role, like Ann Coulter in the States, was, whether intentionally or semi-intentionally, to be as repulsive as possible and be a sort of gargoyle figure for the liberal left to point at and say 'all right wing people are like that'. As such, her passing from Twitter, whilst I'm sure it's a satisfying moment for many, is regrettable from a left wing Twitter perspective, and beneficial in the long term for right wing politics.
All very good until they one day take down free speech that you happen to like.
What did she say this time?
Can’t stand her but, yes, the people cheering this on will,be the same crying bitter salt tears when their heroes get banned. I just blocked her on Twitter. Job done
She can set up her own blog and say whatever she likes on it just as OGH has done.
She has no right to be on Twitter if she breaks their rules any more than Martin Day has a right to be here if he breaks OGH's.
I did follow her as i find people who are not afraid to speak their mind interesting. This is not a right wing thing - I have attended Ken Livingstone talks as well for the same reason. From what I can recall , she got as good as she gave and just stated what may be considered forthright and insensitive posts from time to time but not sure they were hateful. Its a pity Twitter have done this as I cannot see there is a genuine case of breakign their rules just pressure from her many opponents
Did her 'migrants are like cockroaches' stuff pass you by, or do you just not think it's hateful?
I must admit to not being so obsessive that I noted her every comment on it but context etc probably needs looking at . I just observed her general posts from time to time .I know she definitely got called worse herself ! FWIW I don't think Ken Livingstone should have been censored either in the way he was . We are far to intolerant to people who say things that may be deemed unpleasant but ultimately their views. Ironically the people who will miss her posts the most are her opponents ! I suppose they will move over to follow Peter Hitchins now!
Sam Coates (Sky) making a huge case for private schools though I am not sure he realises it
Private schools?
My nose twitches and I look up.
He was saying how throughout lockdown private schools have continued their tuition through zoom etc and their students have benefitted by this while the state schools have not
I don’t think that’s quite true. I have been teaching online a lot, for example. And I know of a state school on the Derbyshire border that swears by zoom teaching.
What I can say for definite is it would be a bloody sight easier to teach a titchy private sector class on Teams or Zoom or Google Meet than a state school class of 30+. My largest class is 34 and it’s damn near impossible to teach them online.
I have no doubt you are correct but Coates really did not qualify his statement as you have done
To an extent, he is right. For all the reasons I give upthread private schools that ride this storm out - many will not - will be far better placed to resume teaching next term. If exams go ahead, we’ll be looking at quite a gulf between private and state - more than usual.
Sam Coates (Sky) making a huge case for private schools though I am not sure he realises it
Private schools?
My nose twitches and I look up.
He was saying how throughout lockdown private schools have continued their tuition through zoom etc and their students have benefitted by this while the state schools have not
It's not uniformly true, my eldest daughter in year 9 at a comprehensive has been getting a fair amount of online classes. But I am sure than in general the educational social apartheid that we enjoy in this country has been further exacerbated.
Another thought is that if you are at a private school your parents are likely to be able to afford nice tech. A laptop, fast internet, a printer. A space to work in. And where they can’t, schools will usually find a way to help as only small numbers are involved.
Whereas a single parent in a small council flat on benefits - but harder.
Many schools have been buying laptops to close the gap but it isn’t foolproof. Moreover, it’s killing them financially.
Yes. My daughter is in the middle category of can afford good tech but we won't go private, she has her own laptop and we have a printer, and she has a nice desk and her own room. The main problem with the online lessons I think was a certain amount of distracting bantz going on, although I think that has improved over time. She is bright and motivated and has a good peer group and I am not too worried about it yet.
All very good until they one day take down free speech that you happen to like.
What did she say this time?
Can’t stand her but, yes, the people cheering this on will,be the same crying bitter salt tears when their heroes get banned. I just blocked her on Twitter. Job done
She can set up her own blog and say whatever she likes on it just as OGH has done.
She has no right to be on Twitter if she breaks their rules any more than Martin Day has a right to be here if he breaks OGH's.
I did follow her as i find people who are not afraid to speak their mind interesting. This is not a right wing thing - I have attended Ken Livingstone talks as well for the same reason. From what I can recall , she got as good as she gave and just stated what may be considered forthright and insensitive posts from time to time but not sure they were hateful. Its a pity Twitter have done this as I cannot see there is a genuine case of breakign their rules just pressure from her many opponents
Every year the range of opinions Twitter permits shrinks, and at every election the Twitterati wonder why the voting didn't quite work out according to their favourite hashtags...
Sam Coates (Sky) making a huge case for private schools though I am not sure he realises it
Private schools?
My nose twitches and I look up.
He was saying how throughout lockdown private schools have continued their tuition through zoom etc and their students have benefitted by this while the state schools have not
Yes. Money talks. Gap widens.
As the gap widens, money talks all the more - and the gap widens.
The wind will change on this one day, I'm sure of it.
Yes, the differences are at least as much about what's available at the home end. It's reasonable to assume that pupils at private schools have got broadband and a reasonably sized screen, and live online teaching is an option; though I'm not sure that it's optimal even then. Same goes for leafy area state schools.
When I think of the places I've worked, a lot of kids were using phones or tablets for online work in normal times. Maybe with broadband, but not always. And then Zooming is a horrible experience for any length of time. The government has had a scheme to get laptops to needy families, which is going as well as you might expect.
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Let the street parties in Plymouth and Exeter commence, to celebrate that news.
He may have a good message but he shows no inspiration or ability to come over anything other than just reading a script put in front of him
Time to replace him Boris
But it doesn't change O'Brien's fundamental nature.
Keep Sunak, Patel and promote Truss.
Literally 5 seconds: "We will get better testing". ENDS.
He is off the scale.
However, that's not the issue.
The United States can, within its powers, order US banks not to deal with Halkbank. A bank like Halkbank will struggle to exist if it is cut off from the US Dollar system.
Corbyn is much more of an IDS analogue; party membership going totally self-indulgent, MPs working out pretty quickly he is a dud. The difference being what the party rules allow to happen after that.
So is Starmer a Howard or a Cameron? We shall see, but I'm inclined to think he's closer to the second.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABml9AvVXQ4
https://twitter.com/BBCVickiYoung/status/1274011112648978436
His answer to Branwen implies 1m/2m is irrelevant as he'll just deem everyone to be in a bubble.
What did she say this time?
What is interesting is I hadn’t realised he sat for a Glaswegian seat when he was PM. I thought he sat for Bootle under Derby’s patronage, but apparently he changed late in life.
So he could be added to the list.
The whole government's response to COVID-19
No progress, no idea, no hope!
The promise will make all of tomorrows front pages. The apology on September 7th, when they don't deliver will just make page 11 of The Daily Telegraph.
https://twitter.com/eddiemair/status/1274013710051348483?s=20
- Announce £1bn education catch-up - nobody takes any notice
- Don't announce £120m free school meals - everyone goes mad
Govt could have given £120m free school meals and just £500m catch-up and would have got big plaudits - even though spending less than what they are!
In a cabinet of low quality Williamson makes the rest look like they have star quality !
Americans Like The Ideas Behind Defunding The Police More Than The Slogan Itself
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/americans-like-the-ideas-behind-defunding-the-police-more-than-the-slogan-itself/
...However, “defund the police” is also a simplistic slogan, and the poll results above do not capture public opinion on the movement’s more concrete policy goals. Specifically, defunding the police is only half of its goal; activists also want to reallocate the money spent on policing to other parts of the social safety net. Indeed, in those very same polls, some of these policy ideas enjoy far more backing among the American public than the slogan does — though the level of support does vary pretty widely depending on the details of the proposal.
For instance, when Reuters/Ipsos queried people about “proposals to move some money currently going to police budgets into better officer training, local programs for homelessness, mental health assistance, and domestic violence,” a whopping 76 percent of people who were familiar with those proposals supported them, with only 22 percent opposed. Democrats and independents supported these proposals in huge numbers while Republicans were split, 51 percent in favor to 47 percent opposed...
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So across the nation Boris, Nicola, Drakeford, and Foster walked in lockstep on 'stay at home' and subsequently have diverged on the margins and are now very much singing from the same page
Yes mistakes have been made, and that was inevitable, but the economy is looking to a bounce back in the coming months to mitigate some of tbe economic damage seen across most nations in europe and generally across the world
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Sorry, did not check before posting. They are coming thick and fast!
September shouldn't be a problem, and it shouldn't need drastic spacing measures (though even 1 m would be difficult with the classrooms and furniture schools have).
As long as nobody stuffs anything up.
Make that everyone.
I would happily uninvent Twitter.
https://twitter.com/EuropeElects/status/1273609119400935426?s=20
Oh well, if you insist.
Perhaps they'd like to do polling on whether to bring back slavery? It's about as relevent, as a question to ask....
My nose twitches and I look up.
It is time to pick out the positives, we all need hope
She has no right to be on Twitter if she breaks their rules any more than Martin Day has a right to be here if he breaks OGH's.
https://twitter.com/markgurman/status/1274014085563080705
TBC.
What I can say for definite is it would be a bloody sight easier to teach a titchy private sector class on Teams or Zoom or Google Meet than a state school class of 30+. My largest class is 34 and it’s damn near impossible to teach them online.
As the gap widens, money talks all the more - and the gap widens.
The wind will change on this one day, I'm sure of it.
Whereas a single parent in a small council flat on benefits - much harder. No laptop, no spare room, and the internet is under pressure all day if they even have it.
Many schools have been buying laptops to close the gap but it isn’t foolproof. Moreover, it’s killing them financially.
When I think of the places I've worked, a lot of kids were using phones or tablets for online work in normal times. Maybe with broadband, but not always. And then Zooming is a horrible experience for any length of time. The government has had a scheme to get laptops to needy families, which is going as well as you might expect.