I agree with @eadric that the taking of the knee is the medieval penitent. The rainbows, teddy bears and NHS signs were icons to ward off evil spirits. Forces are at play here which predate Capitalism and Consumerism. The image of a knee on the neck choking out life is visceral and primordial. It serves as a metaphor. Plaintive cries of "Let's get back to the way things were" are howling at a cloud. Things won't be the same again.
A lot of people don't want things to be the same again. For a lot of people it wasn't good before.
Labour has quietly got its act together. This has the bones of a winning campaign slogan.
Yes. Whoever understands things have changed will seize the zeitgeist. In general it is the people who were doing well and most content who want everything back to normal. Except there is no normal any more. It's gone.
Absolutely. This is a watershed moment, the point in history when things change. The successes of the coming decade will be forged in the next year or so and the fascinating thing is that the virus has handed the opportunity to the young. The last couple of decades have seen an older generation clinging onto their power but that, surely, is a balloon that has popped. It’s over.
As for now, youth owns the streets. Literally. They have little danger from the virus in a time when those older have to be more careful.
And what can they do by 'owning the streets' ?
A hell of a lot, especially as the a lot of the businesses and what exists on those ‘streets’ are going to be in trouble. It’s a symbol of something larger.
I agree with @eadric that the taking of the knee is the medieval penitent. The rainbows, teddy bears and NHS signs were icons to ward off evil spirits. Forces are at play here which predate Capitalism and Consumerism. The image of a knee on the neck choking out life is visceral and primordial. It serves as a metaphor. Plaintive cries of "Let's get back to the way things were" are howling at a cloud. Things won't be the same again.
A lot of people don't want things to be the same again. For a lot of people it wasn't good before.
Labour has quietly got its act together. This has the bones of a winning campaign slogan.
Yes. Whoever understands things have changed will seize the zeitgeist. In general it is the people who were doing well and most content who want everything back to normal. Except there is no normal any more. It's gone.
That's very likely.
But what follows might be even worse for those who want change.
It may or may not. We dont know. Am amazed there is so much pontificating with certainty about.
I agree with @eadric that the taking of the knee is the medieval penitent. The rainbows, teddy bears and NHS signs were icons to ward off evil spirits. Forces are at play here which predate Capitalism and Consumerism. The image of a knee on the neck choking out life is visceral and primordial. It serves as a metaphor. Plaintive cries of "Let's get back to the way things were" are howling at a cloud. Things won't be the same again.
A lot of people don't want things to be the same again. For a lot of people it wasn't good before.
Labour has quietly got its act together. This has the bones of a winning campaign slogan.
Yes. Whoever understands things have changed will seize the zeitgeist. In general it is the people who were doing well and most content who want everything back to normal. Except there is no normal any more. It's gone.
Absolutely. This is a watershed moment, the point in history when things change. The successes of the coming decade will be forged in the next year or so and the fascinating thing is that the virus has handed the opportunity to the young. The last couple of decades have seen an older generation clinging onto their power but that, surely, is a balloon that has popped. It’s over.
As for now, youth owns the streets. Literally. They have little danger from the virus in a time when those older have to be more careful.
And what can they do by 'owning the streets' ?
A hell of a lot, especially as the a lot of the businesses and what exists on those ‘streets’ are going to be in trouble. It’s a symbol of something larger.
I agree with @eadric that the taking of the knee is the medieval penitent. The rainbows, teddy bears and NHS signs were icons to ward off evil spirits. Forces are at play here which predate Capitalism and Consumerism. The image of a knee on the neck choking out life is visceral and primordial. It serves as a metaphor. Plaintive cries of "Let's get back to the way things were" are howling at a cloud. Things won't be the same again.
A lot of people don't want things to be the same again. For a lot of people it wasn't good before.
Labour has quietly got its act together. This has the bones of a winning campaign slogan.
Yes. Whoever understands things have changed will seize the zeitgeist. In general it is the people who were doing well and most content who want everything back to normal. Except there is no normal any more. It's gone.
Absolutely. This is a watershed moment, the point in history when things change. The successes of the coming decade will be forged in the next year or so and the fascinating thing is that the virus has handed the opportunity to the young. The last couple of decades have seen an older generation clinging onto their power but that, surely, is a balloon that has popped. It’s over.
As for now, youth owns the streets. Literally. They have little danger from the virus in a time when those older have to be more careful.
Physical presence on the streets isn't what it used to be. It's all on line now don't you know
Metaphorically as well. Anyone wedded to ‘how things were’ is going to find it difficult if they try and painstakingly pick up the pieces and stick them back together but the young and those who had little to lose are well placed.
Well paced to do what ?
They've still got debts and many will soon be unemployed.
Now some will benefit nicely from lower house prices - if they happen to have a good job.
I agree with @eadric that the taking of the knee is the medieval penitent. The rainbows, teddy bears and NHS signs were icons to ward off evil spirits. Forces are at play here which predate Capitalism and Consumerism. The image of a knee on the neck choking out life is visceral and primordial. It serves as a metaphor. Plaintive cries of "Let's get back to the way things were" are howling at a cloud. Things won't be the same again.
A lot of people don't want things to be the same again. For a lot of people it wasn't good before.
Labour has quietly got its act together. This has the bones of a winning campaign slogan.
Yes. Whoever understands things have changed will seize the zeitgeist. In general it is the people who were doing well and most content who want everything back to normal. Except there is no normal any more. It's gone.
That's very likely.
But what follows might be even worse for those who want change.
It may or may not. We dont know. Am amazed there is so much pontificating with certainty about.
pontificating is common currency on here DD as you undoubtedly appreciate so I'm surprised that you're surprised.
I agree with @eadric that the taking of the knee is the medieval penitent. The rainbows, teddy bears and NHS signs were icons to ward off evil spirits. Forces are at play here which predate Capitalism and Consumerism. The image of a knee on the neck choking out life is visceral and primordial. It serves as a metaphor. Plaintive cries of "Let's get back to the way things were" are howling at a cloud. Things won't be the same again.
A lot of people don't want things to be the same again. For a lot of people it wasn't good before.
Labour has quietly got its act together. This has the bones of a winning campaign slogan.
Yes. Whoever understands things have changed will seize the zeitgeist. In general it is the people who were doing well and most content who want everything back to normal. Except there is no normal any more. It's gone.
Absolutely. This is a watershed moment, the point in history when things change. The successes of the coming decade will be forged in the next year or so and the fascinating thing is that the virus has handed the opportunity to the young. The last couple of decades have seen an older generation clinging onto their power but that, surely, is a balloon that has popped. It’s over.
As for now, youth owns the streets. Literally. They have little danger from the virus in a time when those older have to be more careful.
And what can they do by 'owning the streets' ?
A hell of a lot, especially as the a lot of the businesses and what exists on those ‘streets’ are going to be in trouble. It’s a symbol of something larger.
trouble = closed? So, empty streets?
One thing closes, somebody comes along and plugs the gap in the market (or, indeed, creates a whole new one instead). To be honest, I think it’s going to be an exciting time in many ways. I’m starting to wind down now but, if I was younger, I’d be looking at this as a great opportunity.
I agree with @eadric that the taking of the knee is the medieval penitent. The rainbows, teddy bears and NHS signs were icons to ward off evil spirits. Forces are at play here which predate Capitalism and Consumerism. The image of a knee on the neck choking out life is visceral and primordial. It serves as a metaphor. Plaintive cries of "Let's get back to the way things were" are howling at a cloud. Things won't be the same again.
A lot of people don't want things to be the same again. For a lot of people it wasn't good before.
Labour has quietly got its act together. This has the bones of a winning campaign slogan.
Yes. Whoever understands things have changed will seize the zeitgeist. In general it is the people who were doing well and most content who want everything back to normal. Except there is no normal any more. It's gone.
Absolutely. This is a watershed moment, the point in history when things change. The successes of the coming decade will be forged in the next year or so and the fascinating thing is that the virus has handed the opportunity to the young. The last couple of decades have seen an older generation clinging onto their power but that, surely, is a balloon that has popped. It’s over.
As for now, youth owns the streets. Literally. They have little danger from the virus in a time when those older have to be more careful.
Physical presence on the streets isn't what it used to be. It's all on line now don't you know
Metaphorically as well. Anyone wedded to ‘how things were’ is going to find it difficult if they try and painstakingly pick up the pieces and stick them back together but the young and those who had little to lose are well placed.
Well paced to do what ?
They've still got debts and many will soon be unemployed.
Now some will benefit nicely from lower house prices - if they happen to have a good job.
It seems extremely distasteful to debate winners and losers in todays situation
I agree with @eadric that the taking of the knee is the medieval penitent. The rainbows, teddy bears and NHS signs were icons to ward off evil spirits. Forces are at play here which predate Capitalism and Consumerism. The image of a knee on the neck choking out life is visceral and primordial. It serves as a metaphor. Plaintive cries of "Let's get back to the way things were" are howling at a cloud. Things won't be the same again.
A lot of people don't want things to be the same again. For a lot of people it wasn't good before.
Labour has quietly got its act together. This has the bones of a winning campaign slogan.
Yes. Whoever understands things have changed will seize the zeitgeist. In general it is the people who were doing well and most content who want everything back to normal. Except there is no normal any more. It's gone.
Absolutely. This is a watershed moment, the point in history when things change. The successes of the coming decade will be forged in the next year or so and the fascinating thing is that the virus has handed the opportunity to the young. The last couple of decades have seen an older generation clinging onto their power but that, surely, is a balloon that has popped. It’s over.
As for now, youth owns the streets. Literally. They have little danger from the virus in a time when those older have to be more careful.
Pretty much nobody who is fit and healthy and under 50 needs to be careful, were the only consideration their own health. The direct risks to them are tiny.
But, the young are similar to those in their prime: they are low risk to themselves but might infect someone who is high risk.
Given all that, it’s not clear to me how someone who is 25 and fit has much of an economic advantage over someone who is 45 and fit.
Neither archetype is at much direct risk to themselves, but both could infect high risk groups.
I agree with @eadric that the taking of the knee is the medieval penitent. The rainbows, teddy bears and NHS signs were icons to ward off evil spirits. Forces are at play here which predate Capitalism and Consumerism. The image of a knee on the neck choking out life is visceral and primordial. It serves as a metaphor. Plaintive cries of "Let's get back to the way things were" are howling at a cloud. Things won't be the same again.
A lot of people don't want things to be the same again. For a lot of people it wasn't good before.
Labour has quietly got its act together. This has the bones of a winning campaign slogan.
Yes. Whoever understands things have changed will seize the zeitgeist. In general it is the people who were doing well and most content who want everything back to normal. Except there is no normal any more. It's gone.
Absolutely. This is a watershed moment, the point in history when things change. The successes of the coming decade will be forged in the next year or so and the fascinating thing is that the virus has handed the opportunity to the young. The last couple of decades have seen an older generation clinging onto their power but that, surely, is a balloon that has popped. It’s over.
As for now, youth owns the streets. Literally. They have little danger from the virus in a time when those older have to be more careful.
And what can they do by 'owning the streets' ?
A hell of a lot, especially as the a lot of the businesses and what exists on those ‘streets’ are going to be in trouble. It’s a symbol of something larger.
trouble = closed? So, empty streets?
One thing closes, somebody comes along and plugs the gap in the market (or, indeed, creates a whole new one instead). To be honest, I think it’s going to be an exciting time in many ways. I’m starting to wind down now but, if I was younger, I’d be looking at this as a great opportunity.
I agree with @eadric that the taking of the knee is the medieval penitent. The rainbows, teddy bears and NHS signs were icons to ward off evil spirits. Forces are at play here which predate Capitalism and Consumerism. The image of a knee on the neck choking out life is visceral and primordial. It serves as a metaphor. Plaintive cries of "Let's get back to the way things were" are howling at a cloud. Things won't be the same again.
A lot of people don't want things to be the same again. For a lot of people it wasn't good before.
Labour has quietly got its act together. This has the bones of a winning campaign slogan.
Yes. Whoever understands things have changed will seize the zeitgeist. In general it is the people who were doing well and most content who want everything back to normal. Except there is no normal any more. It's gone.
Absolutely. This is a watershed moment, the point in history when things change. The successes of the coming decade will be forged in the next year or so and the fascinating thing is that the virus has handed the opportunity to the young. The last couple of decades have seen an older generation clinging onto their power but that, surely, is a balloon that has popped. It’s over.
As for now, youth owns the streets. Literally. They have little danger from the virus in a time when those older have to be more careful.
Physical presence on the streets isn't what it used to be. It's all on line now don't you know
Metaphorically as well. Anyone wedded to ‘how things were’ is going to find it difficult if they try and painstakingly pick up the pieces and stick them back together but the young and those who had little to lose are well placed.
Well paced to do what ?
They've still got debts and many will soon be unemployed.
Now some will benefit nicely from lower house prices - if they happen to have a good job.
There will be some who have that sort of defeatist attitude, of course, but knowing many of them, I find that they have the drive and creativity that can get us up and running. The government could do worse than by starting to focus on investing in youth and their ideas and plans for changing the country.
I agree with @eadric that the taking of the knee is the medieval penitent. The rainbows, teddy bears and NHS signs were icons to ward off evil spirits. Forces are at play here which predate Capitalism and Consumerism. The image of a knee on the neck choking out life is visceral and primordial. It serves as a metaphor. Plaintive cries of "Let's get back to the way things were" are howling at a cloud. Things won't be the same again.
A lot of people don't want things to be the same again. For a lot of people it wasn't good before.
Labour has quietly got its act together. This has the bones of a winning campaign slogan.
Yes. Whoever understands things have changed will seize the zeitgeist. In general it is the people who were doing well and most content who want everything back to normal. Except there is no normal any more. It's gone.
That's very likely.
But what follows might be even worse for those who want change.
It may or may not. We dont know. Am amazed there is so much pontificating with certainty about.
pontificating is common currency on here DD as you undoubtedly appreciate so I'm surprised that you're surprised.
Am surprised only in the sense that it is usually about clauses in a Brexit WDA.
I agree with @eadric that the taking of the knee is the medieval penitent. The rainbows, teddy bears and NHS signs were icons to ward off evil spirits. Forces are at play here which predate Capitalism and Consumerism. The image of a knee on the neck choking out life is visceral and primordial. It serves as a metaphor. Plaintive cries of "Let's get back to the way things were" are howling at a cloud. Things won't be the same again.
A lot of people don't want things to be the same again. For a lot of people it wasn't good before.
Labour has quietly got its act together. This has the bones of a winning campaign slogan.
Yes. Whoever understands things have changed will seize the zeitgeist. In general it is the people who were doing well and most content who want everything back to normal. Except there is no normal any more. It's gone.
Absolutely. This is a watershed moment, the point in history when things change. The successes of the coming decade will be forged in the next year or so and the fascinating thing is that the virus has handed the opportunity to the young. The last couple of decades have seen an older generation clinging onto their power but that, surely, is a balloon that has popped. It’s over.
As for now, youth owns the streets. Literally. They have little danger from the virus in a time when those older have to be more careful.
Pretty much nobody who is fit and healthy and under 50 needs to be careful, were the only consideration their own health. The direct risks to them are tiny.
But, the young are similar to those in their prime: they are low risk to themselves but might infect someone who is high risk.
Given all that, it’s not clear to me how someone who is 25 and fit has much of an economic advantage over someone who is 45 and fit.
Neither archetype is at much direct risk to themselves, but both could infect high risk groups.
I think the "older generation clinging onto their power" refers to people significantly older than 45.
I agree with @eadric that the taking of the knee is the medieval penitent. The rainbows, teddy bears and NHS signs were icons to ward off evil spirits. Forces are at play here which predate Capitalism and Consumerism. The image of a knee on the neck choking out life is visceral and primordial. It serves as a metaphor. Plaintive cries of "Let's get back to the way things were" are howling at a cloud. Things won't be the same again.
A lot of people don't want things to be the same again. For a lot of people it wasn't good before.
Labour has quietly got its act together. This has the bones of a winning campaign slogan.
Yes. Whoever understands things have changed will seize the zeitgeist. In general it is the people who were doing well and most content who want everything back to normal. Except there is no normal any more. It's gone.
Absolutely. This is a watershed moment, the point in history when things change. The successes of the coming decade will be forged in the next year or so and the fascinating thing is that the virus has handed the opportunity to the young. The last couple of decades have seen an older generation clinging onto their power but that, surely, is a balloon that has popped. It’s over.
As for now, youth owns the streets. Literally. They have little danger from the virus in a time when those older have to be more careful.
And what can they do by 'owning the streets' ?
A hell of a lot, especially as the a lot of the businesses and what exists on those ‘streets’ are going to be in trouble. It’s a symbol of something larger.
Its a symbol of fack all.
People can tantrum as much as they like but money moves at a much greater speed than they can.
I agree with @eadric that the taking of the knee is the medieval penitent. The rainbows, teddy bears and NHS signs were icons to ward off evil spirits. Forces are at play here which predate Capitalism and Consumerism. The image of a knee on the neck choking out life is visceral and primordial. It serves as a metaphor. Plaintive cries of "Let's get back to the way things were" are howling at a cloud. Things won't be the same again.
A lot of people don't want things to be the same again. For a lot of people it wasn't good before.
Labour has quietly got its act together. This has the bones of a winning campaign slogan.
Yes. Whoever understands things have changed will seize the zeitgeist. In general it is the people who were doing well and most content who want everything back to normal. Except there is no normal any more. It's gone.
That's very likely.
But what follows might be even worse for those who want change.
It may or may not. We dont know. Am amazed there is so much pontificating with certainty about.
We don't know many things.
But I would be surprised if there isn't less wealth about in future than was predicted.
Catching up with the two threads, it's interesting to consider isam's hypothesis. I think it does explain part of the difference between 2017 and 2019 - Corbyn seemed fresh and dynamic in 2017 while May seemed tired; the reverse applied in 2019.
Nobody doubts Johnson's charisma edge. But it may be over-simplistic to assume that the public will literally take any old charisma, including charismatic failure. If we emerge from the virus with no resurgence and Johnson gets us through Brexit and back at work without disaster, I think the Tories will be fine. If not, however, then it's doubtful that affable charm will retain its appeal.
I agree with @eadric that the taking of the knee is the medieval penitent. The rainbows, teddy bears and NHS signs were icons to ward off evil spirits. Forces are at play here which predate Capitalism and Consumerism. The image of a knee on the neck choking out life is visceral and primordial. It serves as a metaphor. Plaintive cries of "Let's get back to the way things were" are howling at a cloud. Things won't be the same again.
A lot of people don't want things to be the same again. For a lot of people it wasn't good before.
Labour has quietly got its act together. This has the bones of a winning campaign slogan.
Yes. Whoever understands things have changed will seize the zeitgeist. In general it is the people who were doing well and most content who want everything back to normal. Except there is no normal any more. It's gone.
That's very likely.
But what follows might be even worse for those who want change.
It may or may not. We dont know. Am amazed there is so much pontificating with certainty about.
We don't know many things.
But I would be surprised if there isn't less wealth about in future than was predicted.
I agree with @eadric that the taking of the knee is the medieval penitent. The rainbows, teddy bears and NHS signs were icons to ward off evil spirits. Forces are at play here which predate Capitalism and Consumerism. The image of a knee on the neck choking out life is visceral and primordial. It serves as a metaphor. Plaintive cries of "Let's get back to the way things were" are howling at a cloud. Things won't be the same again.
A lot of people don't want things to be the same again. For a lot of people it wasn't good before.
Labour has quietly got its act together. This has the bones of a winning campaign slogan.
Yes. Whoever understands things have changed will seize the zeitgeist. In general it is the people who were doing well and most content who want everything back to normal. Except there is no normal any more. It's gone.
Absolutely. This is a watershed moment, the point in history when things change. The successes of the coming decade will be forged in the next year or so and the fascinating thing is that the virus has handed the opportunity to the young. The last couple of decades have seen an older generation clinging onto their power but that, surely, is a balloon that has popped. It’s over.
As for now, youth owns the streets. Literally. They have little danger from the virus in a time when those older have to be more careful.
Physical presence on the streets isn't what it used to be. It's all on line now don't you know
Metaphorically as well. Anyone wedded to ‘how things were’ is going to find it difficult if they try and painstakingly pick up the pieces and stick them back together but the young and those who had little to lose are well placed.
Well paced to do what ?
They've still got debts and many will soon be unemployed.
Now some will benefit nicely from lower house prices - if they happen to have a good job.
There will be some who have that sort of defeatist attitude, of course, but knowing many of them, I find that they have the drive and creativity that can get us up and running. The government could do worse than by starting to focus on investing in youth and their ideas and plans for changing the country.
What you call defeatism is realism.
Unless this 'drive and creativity' is able to create wealth then it its not likely to be worth investing in.
And there's a lot more to creating wealth than blather on the internet.
Most of the movement in the opinion polls is LD to Lab. But how much of that is down to the fact that the LDs don't have much of a presence at the moment due to their suspended leadership election? 6% is a very low figure for the party.
Yes. Whoever understands things have changed will seize the zeitgeist. In general it is the people who were doing well and most content who want everything back to normal. Except there is no normal any more. It's gone.
Absolutely. This is a watershed moment, the point in history when things change. The successes of the coming decade will be forged in the next year or so and the fascinating thing is that the virus has handed the opportunity to the young. The last couple of decades have seen an older generation clinging onto their power but that, surely, is a balloon that has popped. It’s over.
As for now, youth owns the streets. Literally. They have little danger from the virus in a time when those older have to be more careful.
Physical presence on the streets isn't what it used to be. It's all on line now don't you know
Metaphorically as well. Anyone wedded to ‘how things were’ is going to find it difficult if they try and painstakingly pick up the pieces and stick them back together but the young and those who had little to lose are well placed.
Well paced to do what ?
They've still got debts and many will soon be unemployed.
Now some will benefit nicely from lower house prices - if they happen to have a good job.
There will be some who have that sort of defeatist attitude, of course, but knowing many of them, I find that they have the drive and creativity that can get us up and running. The government could do worse than by starting to focus on investing in youth and their ideas and plans for changing the country.
What you call defeatism is realism.
Unless this 'drive and creativity' is able to create wealth then it its not likely to be worth investing in.
And there's a lot more to creating wealth than blather on the internet.
Talk is cheap, lets see what they can do.
Well of course it’s about creating wealth but the chances of doing so are going to be there . For the middle aged who are over leveraged, then I can see why they might want to try and put together what they had but for those who had no mortgage, no real financial liabilities, no particular sunk cost in terms of career, not so much to lose.
Most of the movement in the opinion polls is LD to Lab. But how much of that is down to the fact that the LDs don't have much of a presence at the moment due to their suspended leadership election? 6% is a very low figure for the party.
Yes I doubt the LDs would poll as low as 6% in an election. But that's just a gut feel. No evidence.
I agree with @eadric that the taking of the knee is the medieval penitent. The rainbows, teddy bears and NHS signs were icons to ward off evil spirits. Forces are at play here which predate Capitalism and Consumerism. The image of a knee on the neck choking out life is visceral and primordial. It serves as a metaphor. Plaintive cries of "Let's get back to the way things were" are howling at a cloud. Things won't be the same again.
A lot of people don't want things to be the same again. For a lot of people it wasn't good before.
Labour has quietly got its act together. This has the bones of a winning campaign slogan.
Yes. Whoever understands things have changed will seize the zeitgeist. In general it is the people who were doing well and most content who want everything back to normal. Except there is no normal any more. It's gone.
Absolutely. This is a watershed moment, the point in history when things change. The successes of the coming decade will be forged in the next year or so and the fascinating thing is that the virus has handed the opportunity to the young. The last couple of decades have seen an older generation clinging onto their power but that, surely, is a balloon that has popped. It’s over.
As for now, youth owns the streets. Literally. They have little danger from the virus in a time when those older have to be more careful.
Physical presence on the streets isn't what it used to be. It's all on line now don't you know
Metaphorically as well. Anyone wedded to ‘how things were’ is going to find it difficult if they try and painstakingly pick up the pieces and stick them back together but the young and those who had little to lose are well placed.
yes , as they flip burgers they will be able to think how great it is and look forward to their chlorinated chicken
I agree with @eadric that the taking of the knee is the medieval penitent. The rainbows, teddy bears and NHS signs were icons to ward off evil spirits. Forces are at play here which predate Capitalism and Consumerism. The image of a knee on the neck choking out life is visceral and primordial. It serves as a metaphor. Plaintive cries of "Let's get back to the way things were" are howling at a cloud. Things won't be the same again.
A lot of people don't want things to be the same again. For a lot of people it wasn't good before.
Labour has quietly got its act together. This has the bones of a winning campaign slogan.
Yes. Whoever understands things have changed will seize the zeitgeist. In general it is the people who were doing well and most content who want everything back to normal. Except there is no normal any more. It's gone.
Absolutely. This is a watershed moment, the point in history when things change. The successes of the coming decade will be forged in the next year or so and the fascinating thing is that the virus has handed the opportunity to the young. The last couple of decades have seen an older generation clinging onto their power but that, surely, is a balloon that has popped. It’s over.
As for now, youth owns the streets. Literally. They have little danger from the virus in a time when those older have to be more careful.
Pretty much nobody who is fit and healthy and under 50 needs to be careful, were the only consideration their own health. The direct risks to them are tiny.
But, the young are similar to those in their prime: they are low risk to themselves but might infect someone who is high risk.
Given all that, it’s not clear to me how someone who is 25 and fit has much of an economic advantage over someone who is 45 and fit.
Neither archetype is at much direct risk to themselves, but both could infect high risk groups.
Come now, there is a significant risk even for the young of long-term problems after infection - like partial deafness in even nominally asymptomatic patients.
Does anyone have a tabulation of how those risks of complications vary with age, though?
I agree with @eadric that the taking of the knee is the medieval penitent. The rainbows, teddy bears and NHS signs were icons to ward off evil spirits. Forces are at play here which predate Capitalism and Consumerism. The image of a knee on the neck choking out life is visceral and primordial. It serves as a metaphor. Plaintive cries of "Let's get back to the way things were" are howling at a cloud. Things won't be the same again.
A lot of people don't want things to be the same again. For a lot of people it wasn't good before.
Labour has quietly got its act together. This has the bones of a winning campaign slogan.
Yes. Whoever understands things have changed will seize the zeitgeist. In general it is the people who were doing well and most content who want everything back to normal. Except there is no normal any more. It's gone.
Absolutely. This is a watershed moment, the point in history when things change. The successes of the coming decade will be forged in the next year or so and the fascinating thing is that the virus has handed the opportunity to the young. The last couple of decades have seen an older generation clinging onto their power but that, surely, is a balloon that has popped. It’s over.
As for now, youth owns the streets. Literally. They have little danger from the virus in a time when those older have to be more careful.
Physical presence on the streets isn't what it used to be. It's all on line now don't you know
Metaphorically as well. Anyone wedded to ‘how things were’ is going to find it difficult if they try and painstakingly pick up the pieces and stick them back together but the young and those who had little to lose are well placed.
yes , as they flip burgers they will be able to think how great it is and look forward to their chlorinated chicken
Well, Brexit is a problem, yes. I was thinking about the pandemic, though, where there is greater opportunity.
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They've still got debts and many will soon be unemployed.
Now some will benefit nicely from lower house prices - if they happen to have a good job.
But, the young are similar to those in their prime: they are low risk to themselves but might infect someone who is high risk.
Given all that, it’s not clear to me how someone who is 25 and fit has much of an economic advantage over someone who is 45 and fit.
Neither archetype is at much direct risk to themselves, but both could infect high risk groups.
People can tantrum as much as they like but money moves at a much greater speed than they can.
But I would be surprised if there isn't less wealth about in future than was predicted.
Nobody doubts Johnson's charisma edge. But it may be over-simplistic to assume that the public will literally take any old charisma, including charismatic failure. If we emerge from the virus with no resurgence and Johnson gets us through Brexit and back at work without disaster, I think the Tories will be fine. If not, however, then it's doubtful that affable charm will retain its appeal.
Unless this 'drive and creativity' is able to create wealth then it its not likely to be worth investing in.
And there's a lot more to creating wealth than blather on the internet.
Talk is cheap, lets see what they can do.
https://twitter.com/Timodc/status/1269289832217341952
Does anyone have a tabulation of how those risks of complications vary with age, though?