All this about Dom and Boris is one thing. But the other side of the coin is the press and commentariat. They've had this story for many weeks, but have waited till now to pull the trigger on a coordinated strike just before the lock-down is eased to maximise the political damage. What is their game? Is it to do with Brexit, as Brendan suggests? https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-disturbing-moral-outrage-over-cummings
Two answers:-
1. Verifying the story. 2. They weren’t going to do it while Boris was ill or immediately after his baby was born.
I don't buy 1 - they are seldom that slow to do verification, especially in a simple case like this. Not sure if I buy 2 either. Sensitive souls in the Mirror/Guardian/Mail - pull the other one!
Nothing about Brexit in any of that. All of it makes complete sense.
But it is still Brexit. You know it, I know it
This has got sod all to do with Brexit. Britain has left the EU and, in case you didn't notice, it's not the story any more.
If you genuinely cannot understand the seething anger from the public, who have made immense sacrifices, at being essentially told they are mugs who somehow don't love their children enough, then you're a moron.
Sigh. I understand the anger. I have been extremely critical of this government over their handling of covid-19. On this site. I believe they have been criminally negligent and careers should end. Possibly including the PM's
My point is that the EXTREME ferocity aimed at Cummings is because he did a Brexit on the lawn of posh people. He is verily disliked, thereby
Not in my case - it's because he created this lockdown mess and then wilfully ignored it himself.
Heck it seems he ignored it a second time to see his parents due to the death of his uncle - when a lot of people were unable to travel to see their spouse or parents prior or even after their death because HSE stated that it wasn't an essential journey.
It was only 75 years ago that Britain cold blooded and deliberate , went out of its way to try and kill (of all ages) 50,000 people in the fire bombing of Dresden.
25,000, not 50,000. The latter figure is based on the lies of infamous neo-Nazi pseudoscholar, forger and propagandist David Irving.
25,000 is bad enough. There is no need to exaggerate it.
Nothing about Brexit in any of that. All of it makes complete sense.
But it is still Brexit. You know it, I know it
This has got sod all to do with Brexit. Britain has left the EU and, in case you didn't notice, it's not the story any more.
If you genuinely cannot understand the seething anger from the public, who have made immense sacrifices, at being essentially told they are mugs who somehow don't love their children enough, then you're a moron.
Sigh. I understand the anger. I have been extremely critical of this government over their handling of covid-19. On this site. I believe they have been criminally negligent and careers should end. Possibly including the PM's
My point is that the EXTREME ferocity aimed at Cummings is because he did a Brexit on the lawn of posh people. He is verily disliked, thereby
Nope. You really, really don't get it.
The people whose blood is now boiling aren't the hardened old Remoaner foe or whatever. This is visceral from people who obeyed the rules at great personal expense to save lives, and now think they were treated like mugs.
All this about Dom and Boris is one thing. But the other side of the coin is the press and commentariat. They've had this story for many weeks, but have waited till now to pull the trigger on a coordinated strike just before the lock-down is eased to maximise the political damage. What is their game? Is it to do with Brexit, as Brendan suggests? https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-disturbing-moral-outrage-over-cummings
Two answers:-
1. Verifying the story. 2. They weren’t going to do it while Boris was ill or immediately after his baby was born.
I don't buy 1 - they are seldom that slow to do verification, especially in a simple case like this. Not sure if I buy 2 either. Sensitive souls in the Mirror/Guardian/Mail - pull the other one!
Why waste a good story when there are other things to talk about? Save it for the first quiet period when you need something to fill the column inches
Yes, but what do the Tory supporting papers say? No one cares what FBPE trash like (checks notes) the Daily Mail have to say!
That noise? It's the sound of NHS clapping, lockdown abiding Middle England slowly grinding their teeth before sticking the boot in to this broken government.
In 2024?
Yep.
People have memories.
People who couldn't see their grandkids for weeks, or did not get to go to an old friends funeral.
In addition to the obvious, Barnard Castle (aka 'Barnie') has an old market thingy in the market place, several antique shops and some decent pubs. A nice place to visit. Nearby is the Bowes Museum.
Just incase anyone happens to be in the area.
Some time ago, I cycled from Bedford to Durham to do an OU summer school. I asked for travel expenses of two pence per mile, mainly for food. The OU paid that very quickly.
In what little time off I could get I explored the countryside around Durham. From a cyclist's-eye view one could see definite Roman influences. The Ordnance Survey maps help, and are well worth poring over..
Just back from a pleasant walk on Hampstead Heath. Not a lot of evidence of social distancing. Quite a bit of evidence of 'don't give a shit'. It's been a few weeks since I was in London so maybe things have been a lot looser down here than in Gloucestershire where I live now, but it may just be the Cummings fiasco is already having an impact.
I should confess that I find his account implausible. It seems to me much more likely that when his wife got sick he didn't fancy looking after her and the little one on his own so found a more congenial solution involving his parents.
Johnson performance this afternoon was abject. He had the chance to sack DC or at least explain why he didn't. He did neither. The airy waffle about 'reasonable parent' told us nothing and will have grated like hell with those who have ever experienced similar dilemmas.
Given that nobody seems to have been infected in Islington in the last week (I know Hampstead Heath is in Camden) I suspect fear has evaporated from those who are 'out and about'.
I like your second paragraph, it chimes with what Cummings's character might well be.
Hampstead Heath is probably busier now than it has ever been. Plenty of mass picnics and people taking advantage of the weather. Part of it is probably because it is so hard to police. From personal experience of running around it, I would say the vast majority of the people in groups are in their 20s with a few families interspersed. Cannot blame them - I suspect many are stuck in cramped flats which are not particularly pleasant on a hot day.
and tbh if nobody is being infected in Hampstead despite these gatherings it probably means herd immunity has been reached in those areas. Again shows the mortality rate is not that high overall.
Yes, I suspect that is right. The aftermath is going to be horrible - there are a lot of people about to be made unemployed once the furloughing measures end (in fact, the redundancies are already happening) and there will be very few jobs to go to. It will be appalling.
Fully agree - not just economic damage though also social damage especially in education and loss of focus , opportunity and anticipation in the young
My older daughter is now clearly suffering from lockdown. She needs school and friends and social interaction. Enough of this. The cure is killing us quicker
Agreed. This is getting ridiculous. We have always lived with illnesses, threats and so forth. The suffering being done to people by the lockdown is far exceeding the damage from the virus itself.
It was her birthday today. She's a very sensitive age. She had to wave at friends at a social distance. Then she retreated to her phone and herself and the unending silence of lockdown.
Let the old and the fat and the vulnerable stay home if they want. Young people need to live, love, laugh
Correct. Let the old and/or fat out too if they wish. Let them decide the risk.
Freedom! Liberty! Pubs!
You've missed ICU off the end of your list.
Look, if you want to stay home for the next 48 million years, because of the fairly low chance, at the moment, of catching a disease which, albeit nasty, only kills about 1% of those infected, fair enough. The rest of us are beginning to differ
We are returned to a pre-antibiotic age. You can die from a simple infection. So be it. Before Alexander Fleming found his infested petri dish, people still managed to live rich and happy lives as normal human beings, and didn't feel the need to cower in their cellars until they died of boredom
I don't want to have to stay at home. I want the virus to be sufficiently suppressed that we get to Level 2 and the balance of risk is such that most things can go back to normal. The more people dick about now, the higher R remains and the longer it takes to get there. Premature easing of lockdown rules is also buggering things up.
My wife is in the shielding cohort. So we'll be amongst the last to return to the outside world. We'll make that call based on evidence, scientific advice and our own gut feeling. She hasn't seen her mum in months. It isn't a jolly time for us just cos we get a lie in and don't need to iron.
And all of a sudden people who hate the Daily Mail and consider it to be everything wrong with Britain want its headlines to run the country.
Do you not understand that if the people and media that are usually cheerleaders for the politicians and politics that you despise do an about turn, it's quite a big deal and you're going to highlight it?
Nothing about Brexit in any of that. All of it makes complete sense.
But it is still Brexit. You know it, I know it
This has got sod all to do with Brexit. Britain has left the EU and, in case you didn't notice, it's not the story any more.
If you genuinely cannot understand the seething anger from the public, who have made immense sacrifices, at being essentially told they are mugs who somehow don't love their children enough, then you're a moron.
Sigh. I understand the anger. I have been extremely critical of this government over their handling of covid-19. On this site. I believe they have been criminally negligent and careers should end. Possibly including the PM's
My point is that the EXTREME ferocity aimed at Cummings is because he did a Brexit on the lawn of posh people. He is verily disliked, thereby
Nope. You really, really don't get it.
The people whose blood is now boiling aren't the hardened old Remoaner foe or whatever. This is visceral from people who obeyed the rules at great personal expense to save lives, and now think they were treated like mugs.
Nothing about Brexit in any of that. All of it makes complete sense.
But it is still Brexit. You know it, I know it
You’re deranged.
You honestly deny your present loathing of Dom Cummings is not in some way affected by his salient role in Brexit?
No other political aide would generate this level of anger at his misdeeds, no matter how annoying or unusual his persona, or choice of hoodies.
It's because he is seen as the man who delivered that astonishing Leave victory, and made people like you miserable and bitter for the rest of time, that he is such a focus.
You should be happy. Or, at least, happier. I sense you are about to get your scalp.
I don’t loathe Dominic Cummings for his current misdeeds. He is in fact a point of interest in this government and without him it will be duller.
The only reason he’s still in his job is because of who he is. Any Cabinet minister would long ago have been sacked. Leavers have become so deranged that they mistake anger at his arrogance for a plot against Brexit.
Ironically, they have probably set back their mad cause substantially by defending him so senselessly.
Nothing about Brexit in any of that. All of it makes complete sense.
But it is still Brexit. You know it, I know it
This has got sod all to do with Brexit. Britain has left the EU and, in case you didn't notice, it's not the story any more.
If you genuinely cannot understand the seething anger from the public, who have made immense sacrifices, at being essentially told they are mugs who somehow don't love their children enough, then you're a moron.
Sigh. I understand the anger. I have been extremely critical of this government over their handling of covid-19. On this site. I believe they have been criminally negligent and careers should end. Possibly including the PM's
My point is that the EXTREME ferocity aimed at Cummings is because he did a Brexit on the lawn of posh people. He is verily disliked, thereby
Not in my case - it's because he created this lockdown mess and then wilfully ignored it himself.
Heck it seems he ignored it a second time to see his parents due to the death of his uncle - when a lot of people were unable to travel to see their spouse or parents prior or even after their death because HSE stated that it wasn't an essential journey.
Plus Cummings is an arrogant twat.
I’ve been saying this for years.
It’s very gratifying people are now starting to notice I was right.
You don't need a focus group to be convened to tell you that if the Daily Mail and Piers Morgan are angry beyond words about an aide's behaviour then he is done.
Nothing about Brexit in any of that. All of it makes complete sense.
But it is still Brexit. You know it, I know it
This has got sod all to do with Brexit. Britain has left the EU and, in case you didn't notice, it's not the story any more.
If you genuinely cannot understand the seething anger from the public, who have made immense sacrifices, at being essentially told they are mugs who somehow don't love their children enough, then you're a moron.
Sigh. I understand the anger. I have been extremely critical of this government over their handling of covid-19. On this site. I believe they have been criminally negligent and careers should end. Possibly including the PM's
My point is that the EXTREME ferocity aimed at Cummings is because he did a Brexit on the lawn of posh people. He is verily disliked, thereby
Not in my case - it's because he created this lockdown mess and then wilfully ignored it himself.
Heck it seems he ignored it a second time to see his parents due to the death of his uncle - when a lot of people were unable to travel to see their spouse or parents prior or even after their death because HSE stated that it wasn't an essential journey.
Plus Cummings is an arrogant twat.
I’ve been saying this for years.
It’s very gratifying people are now starting to notice I was right.
People with these kinds of attitudes always come unstuck eventually.
And all of a sudden people who hate the Daily Mail and consider it to be everything wrong with Britain want its headlines to run the country.
Do you not understand that if the people and media that are usually cheerleaders for the politicians and politics that you despise do an about turn, it's quite a big deal and you're going to highlight it?
Of course I do. They're still silly hypocrites to do it though, given their constant demonization of the paper, and it will be fun to note their sudden loss of interest the moment the Mail swings back behind the Tories again.
Over the years, Boris has been sacked twice for lying:
In 1988, Boris was sacked from his job at The Times newspaper over allegations he fabricated a quote from his godfather, the historian Colin Lucas, for a front-page article about the discovery of Edward II’s Rose Palace.
And in 2003, after becoming leader of the Conservatives, Michael Howard gave Boris two new jobs – party vice-chairman and shadow arts minister. Boris was sacked from both positions in November 2004 after assuring Mr Howard that tabloid reports of his affair with Spectator columnist Petronella Wyatt were false and an “inverted pyramid of piffle”. When the story was found to be true, he refused to resign.
What does your average swing voter think of this I wonder.
They leant their vote to a new type of Tory Party. Looks a lot like the old Tory Party at the moment - will they make that mistake again now that Labour has woken up?
Nothing about Brexit in any of that. All of it makes complete sense.
But it is still Brexit. You know it, I know it
This has got sod all to do with Brexit. Britain has left the EU and, in case you didn't notice, it's not the story any more.
If you genuinely cannot understand the seething anger from the public, who have made immense sacrifices, at being essentially told they are mugs who somehow don't love their children enough, then you're a moron.
Sigh. I understand the anger. I have been extremely critical of this government over their handling of covid-19. On this site. I believe they have been criminally negligent and careers should end. Possibly including the PM's
My point is that the EXTREME ferocity aimed at Cummings is because he did a Brexit on the lawn of posh people. He is verily disliked, thereby
Not in my case - it's because he created this lockdown mess and then wilfully ignored it himself.
Heck it seems he ignored it a second time to see his parents due to the death of his uncle - when a lot of people were unable to travel to see their spouse or parents prior or even after their death because HSE stated that it wasn't an essential journey.
Plus Cummings is an arrogant twat.
I’ve been saying this for years.
It’s very gratifying people are now starting to notice I was right.
People with these kinds of attitudes always come unstuck eventually.
In addition to the obvious, Barnard Castle (aka 'Barnie') has an old market thingy in the market place, several antique shops and some decent pubs. A nice place to visit. Nearby is the Bowes Museum.
Nothing about Brexit in any of that. All of it makes complete sense.
But it is still Brexit. You know it, I know it
This has got sod all to do with Brexit. Britain has left the EU and, in case you didn't notice, it's not the story any more.
If you genuinely cannot understand the seething anger from the public, who have made immense sacrifices, at being essentially told they are mugs who somehow don't love their children enough, then you're a moron.
Sigh. I understand the anger. I have been extremely critical of this government over their handling of covid-19. On this site. I believe they have been criminally negligent and careers should end. Possibly including the PM's
My point is that the EXTREME ferocity aimed at Cummings is because he did a Brexit on the lawn of posh people. He is verily disliked, thereby
Not in my case - it's because he created this lockdown mess and then wilfully ignored it himself.
Heck it seems he ignored it a second time to see his parents due to the death of his uncle - when a lot of people were unable to travel to see their spouse or parents prior or even after their death because HSE stated that it wasn't an essential journey.
Plus Cummings is an arrogant twat.
I’ve been saying this for years.
It’s very gratifying people are now starting to notice I was right.
People with these kinds of attitudes always come unstuck eventually.
Over the years, Boris has been sacked twice for lying:
In 1988, Boris was sacked from his job at The Times newspaper over allegations he fabricated a quote from his godfather, the historian Colin Lucas, for a front-page article about the discovery of Edward II’s Rose Palace.
And in 2003, after becoming leader of the Conservatives, Michael Howard gave Boris two new jobs – party vice-chairman and shadow arts minister. Boris was sacked from both positions in November 2004 after assuring Mr Howard that tabloid reports of his affair with Spectator columnist Petronella Wyatt were false and an “inverted pyramid of piffle”. When the story was found to be true, he refused to resign.
Apart from the Bozo cultists who will support him no matter what he does for the rest the PM has lost all authority to deliver any further instructions to the UK public as the lockdown is eased .
Polling is going to look dire if the Mail has lost confidence
I am sure it will but the more important issue is why has Boris sacrificed his career for Cummings
Have you gone LAB now Big G?
No not at all.
I just think Boris is wrong and has lost his way. He is not well and I doubt he will last long. It does not mean I am suddenly voting labour. That thought has not crossed my mind
Nothing about Brexit in any of that. All of it makes complete sense.
But it is still Brexit. You know it, I know it
This has got sod all to do with Brexit. Britain has left the EU and, in case you didn't notice, it's not the story any more.
If you genuinely cannot understand the seething anger from the public, who have made immense sacrifices, at being essentially told they are mugs who somehow don't love their children enough, then you're a moron.
Sigh. I understand the anger. I have been extremely critical of this government over their handling of covid-19. On this site. I believe they have been criminally negligent and careers should end. Possibly including the PM's
My point is that the EXTREME ferocity aimed at Cummings is because he did a Brexit on the lawn of posh people. He is verily disliked, thereby
Not in my case - it's because he created this lockdown mess and then wilfully ignored it himself.
Heck it seems he ignored it a second time to see his parents due to the death of his uncle - when a lot of people were unable to travel to see their spouse or parents prior or even after their death because HSE stated that it wasn't an essential journey.
Plus Cummings is an arrogant twat.
I’ve been saying this for years.
It’s very gratifying people are now starting to notice I was right.
People with these kinds of attitudes always come unstuck eventually.
I do hope I don’t.
Oh, sorry, did you mean Cummings?
I meant Cummings, yes. I like your posts.
My post was not intended entirely seriously
But thank you for the second sentence. I fear I am vain enough to purr at the compliment.
Nothing about Brexit in any of that. All of it makes complete sense.
But it is still Brexit. You know it, I know it
This has got sod all to do with Brexit. Britain has left the EU and, in case you didn't notice, it's not the story any more.
If you genuinely cannot understand the seething anger from the public, who have made immense sacrifices, at being essentially told they are mugs who somehow don't love their children enough, then you're a moron.
Sigh. I understand the anger. I have been extremely critical of this government over their handling of covid-19. On this site. I believe they have been criminally negligent and careers should end. Possibly including the PM's
My point is that the EXTREME ferocity aimed at Cummings is because he did a Brexit on the lawn of posh people. He is verily disliked, thereby
Not in my case - it's because he created this lockdown mess and then wilfully ignored it himself.
Heck it seems he ignored it a second time to see his parents due to the death of his uncle - when a lot of people were unable to travel to see their spouse or parents prior or even after their death because HSE stated that it wasn't an essential journey.
Plus Cummings is an arrogant twat.
I’ve been saying this for years.
It’s very gratifying people are now starting to notice I was right.
People with these kinds of attitudes always come unstuck eventually.
I do hope I don’t.
Oh, sorry, did you mean Cummings?
I meant Cummings, yes. I like your posts.
My post was not intended entirely seriously
But thank you for the second sentence. I fear I am vain enough to purr at the compliment.
Ah, no worries
Please feel free to purr, I know I get excited when occasionally users like my posts too
Apart from the Bozo cultists who will support him no matter what he does for the rest the PM has lost all authority to deliver any further instructions to the UK public as the lockdown is eased .
That's the least of his worries - a lot of people will now feel the lockdown was irrelevant.
Imagine if you then discover that the lockdown has cost you your job and there are no other jobs available.
Nothing about Brexit in any of that. All of it makes complete sense.
But it is still Brexit. You know it, I know it
This has got sod all to do with Brexit. Britain has left the EU and, in case you didn't notice, it's not the story any more.
If you genuinely cannot understand the seething anger from the public, who have made immense sacrifices, at being essentially told they are mugs who somehow don't love their children enough, then you're a moron.
Sigh. I understand the anger. I have been extremely critical of this government over their handling of covid-19. On this site. I believe they have been criminally negligent and careers should end. Possibly including the PM's
My point is that the EXTREME ferocity aimed at Cummings is because he did a Brexit on the lawn of posh people. He is verily disliked, thereby
Nope. You really, really don't get it.
The people whose blood is now boiling aren't the hardened old Remoaner foe or whatever. This is visceral from people who obeyed the rules at great personal expense to save lives, and now think they were treated like mugs.
Except the greatest bile is coming from the most angry Remoaners, like Led By Donkeys. They parked this in Dom C's street
Polling is going to look dire if the Mail has lost confidence
I am sure it will but the more important issue is why has Boris sacrificed his career for Cummings
Have you gone LAB now Big G?
No not at all.
I just think Boris is wrong and has lost his way. He is not well and I doubt he will last long. It does not mean I am suddenly voting labour. That thought has not crossed my mind
Hold the thought, or your'e off HYUFD's Christmas card list.
Took the constutional today around Mansfield because I need to comment on a Planning App for a £12m 'gateway' development (a hotel and 3 restaurants!) on the old bus station site before the end of the month, to help the developers escape from their 'absolute minimum for the community' stance.
Seeing the centre of a town of 110k people utterly deserted is seerie. And a single car in a car park for 200, and one bus and 2 cleaners in the new £10m bus station.
Fine - its a bank holiday Sunday in the middle of a pandemic.
Even so...
Has no one told Mansfield it is all over? Lockdown imploded at 5pm this evening in a stream of bluster and spittle and nonsense.
A restaurant and hotel complex. Brave in current climate.
Took the constutional today around Mansfield because I need to comment on a Planning App for a £12m 'gateway' development (a hotel and 3 restaurants!) on the old bus station site before the end of the month, to help the developers escape from their 'absolute minimum for the community' stance.
Seeing the centre of a town of 110k people utterly deserted is seerie. And a single car in a car park for 200, and one bus and 2 cleaners in the new £10m bus station.
Fine - its a bank holiday Sunday in the middle of a pandemic.
Even so...
Has no one told Mansfield it is all over? Lockdown imploded at 5pm this evening in a stream of bluster and spittle and nonsense.
A restaurant and hotel complex. Brave in current climate.
It’s in the wrong place. Should have aimed for Barnard Castle. Apparently lockdown doesn’t apply there.
Polling is going to look dire if the Mail has lost confidence
I am sure it will but the more important issue is why has Boris sacrificed his career for Cummings
Have you gone LAB now Big G?
No not at all.
I just think Boris is wrong and has lost his way. He is not well and I doubt he will last long. It does not mean I am suddenly voting labour. That thought has not crossed my mind
Hold the thought, or your'e off HYUFD's Christmas card list.
I was never on it. We are very different conservative members
Nothing about Brexit in any of that. All of it makes complete sense.
But it is still Brexit. You know it, I know it
This has got sod all to do with Brexit. Britain has left the EU and, in case you didn't notice, it's not the story any more.
If you genuinely cannot understand the seething anger from the public, who have made immense sacrifices, at being essentially told they are mugs who somehow don't love their children enough, then you're a moron.
Sigh. I understand the anger. I have been extremely critical of this government over their handling of covid-19. On this site. I believe they have been criminally negligent and careers should end. Possibly including the PM's
My point is that the EXTREME ferocity aimed at Cummings is because he did a Brexit on the lawn of posh people. He is verily disliked, thereby
Nope. You really, really don't get it.
The people whose blood is now boiling aren't the hardened old Remoaner foe or whatever. This is visceral from people who obeyed the rules at great personal expense to save lives, and now think they were treated like mugs.
Except the greatest bile is coming from the most angry Remoaners, like Led By Donkeys. They parked this in Dom C's street
[A tweet]
Check the Tweeter's timeline. Insane Remoanerism. Completely batshit.
Denying this is futile
Twitter does not equal the world.
Tory MPs are hearing from people who are furious and aren't all rabid Remainers.
Nothing about Brexit in any of that. All of it makes complete sense.
But it is still Brexit. You know it, I know it
This has got sod all to do with Brexit. Britain has left the EU and, in case you didn't notice, it's not the story any more.
If you genuinely cannot understand the seething anger from the public, who have made immense sacrifices, at being essentially told they are mugs who somehow don't love their children enough, then you're a moron.
Sigh. I understand the anger. I have been extremely critical of this government over their handling of covid-19. On this site. I believe they have been criminally negligent and careers should end. Possibly including the PM's
My point is that the EXTREME ferocity aimed at Cummings is because he did a Brexit on the lawn of posh people. He is verily disliked, thereby
Nope. You really, really don't get it.
The people whose blood is now boiling aren't the hardened old Remoaner foe or whatever. This is visceral from people who obeyed the rules at great personal expense to save lives, and now think they were treated like mugs.
Except the greatest bile is coming from the most angry Remoaners, like Led By Donkeys. They parked this in Dom C's street
Check the Tweeter's timeline. Insane Remoanerism. Completely batshit.
Denying this is futile
Yes, absolutely, Remainers are loving this. But Julia Hartley-Brewer retweeted Led by Donkeys today so the bile crosses the Brexit divide.
Yes, I entirely accept that. It's when I saw JHB getting het up about CastleGate, on Friday evening, that I thought: OK, this could be a lot bigger than I expected.
I still wholly believe this is driven at its core by Remainers seeking revenge (or more), but it has gone way beyond them. As a Tory PM, if you lose the Daily Mail on an issue like this, you are in deep shit. I am quite mystified by Boris' behaviour.
You have to wonder precisely what kind of hold does Cummings have over Boris?
Nothing about Brexit in any of that. All of it makes complete sense.
But it is still Brexit. You know it, I know it
This has got sod all to do with Brexit. Britain has left the EU and, in case you didn't notice, it's not the story any more.
If you genuinely cannot understand the seething anger from the public, who have made immense sacrifices, at being essentially told they are mugs who somehow don't love their children enough, then you're a moron.
Sigh. I understand the anger. I have been extremely critical of this government over their handling of covid-19. On this site. I believe they have been criminally negligent and careers should end. Possibly including the PM's
My point is that the EXTREME ferocity aimed at Cummings is because he did a Brexit on the lawn of posh people. He is verily disliked, thereby
Nope. You really, really don't get it.
The people whose blood is now boiling aren't the hardened old Remoaner foe or whatever. This is visceral from people who obeyed the rules at great personal expense to save lives, and now think they were treated like mugs.
Except the greatest bile is coming from the most angry Remoaners, like Led By Donkeys. They parked this in Dom C's street
Check the Tweeter's timeline. Insane Remoanerism. Completely batshit.
Denying this is futile
Yes, absolutely, Remainers are loving this. But Julia Hartley-Brewer retweeted Led by Donkeys today so the bile crosses the Brexit divide.
Yes, I entirely accept that. It's when I saw JHB getting het up about CastleGate, on Friday evening, that I thought: OK, this could be a lot bigger than I expected.
I still wholly believe this is driven at its core by Remainers seeking revenge (or more), but it has gone way beyond them. As a Tory PM, if you lose the Daily Mail on an issue like this, you are in deep shit. I am quite mystified by Boris' behaviour.
Nothing about Brexit in any of that. All of it makes complete sense.
But it is still Brexit. You know it, I know it
This has got sod all to do with Brexit. Britain has left the EU and, in case you didn't notice, it's not the story any more.
If you genuinely cannot understand the seething anger from the public, who have made immense sacrifices, at being essentially told they are mugs who somehow don't love their children enough, then you're a moron.
Sigh. I understand the anger. I have been extremely critical of this government over their handling of covid-19. On this site. I believe they have been criminally negligent and careers should end. Possibly including the PM's
My point is that the EXTREME ferocity aimed at Cummings is because he did a Brexit on the lawn of posh people. He is verily disliked, thereby
Nope. You really, really don't get it.
The people whose blood is now boiling aren't the hardened old Remoaner foe or whatever. This is visceral from people who obeyed the rules at great personal expense to save lives, and now think they were treated like mugs.
Except the greatest bile is coming from the most angry Remoaners, like Led By Donkeys. They parked this in Dom C's street
Check the Tweeter's timeline. Insane Remoanerism. Completely batshit.
Denying this is futile
Yes, absolutely, Remainers are loving this. But Julia Hartley-Brewer retweeted Led by Donkeys today so the bile crosses the Brexit divide.
Yes, I entirely accept that. It's when I saw JHB getting het up about CastleGate, on Friday evening, that I thought: OK, this could be a lot bigger than I expected.
I still wholly believe this is driven at its core by Remainers seeking revenge (or more), but it has gone way beyond them. As a Tory PM, if you lose the Daily Mail on an issue like this, you are in deep shit. I am quite mystified by Boris' behaviour.
I would agree with you if you replaced “Remainers” with “the left”. This is a return to some form of politics as normal. Leavers underestimate how Remainers have moved on. We have, indeed, “got over it” as we were constantly advised and are returning to our old political homes. Cummings mistake is that he’s still fighting a battle he won - see he comment to journalists outside his house yesterday - and thinks he knows more than he does. He’s fighting the last war and will therefore lose this one.
Nothing about Brexit in any of that. All of it makes complete sense.
But it is still Brexit. You know it, I know it
This has got sod all to do with Brexit. Britain has left the EU and, in case you didn't notice, it's not the story any more.
If you genuinely cannot understand the seething anger from the public, who have made immense sacrifices, at being essentially told they are mugs who somehow don't love their children enough, then you're a moron.
Sigh. I understand the anger. I have been extremely critical of this government over their handling of covid-19. On this site. I believe they have been criminally negligent and careers should end. Possibly including the PM's
My point is that the EXTREME ferocity aimed at Cummings is because he did a Brexit on the lawn of posh people. He is verily disliked, thereby
Not in my case - it's because he created this lockdown mess and then wilfully ignored it himself.
Heck it seems he ignored it a second time to see his parents due to the death of his uncle - when a lot of people were unable to travel to see their spouse or parents prior or even after their death because HSE stated that it wasn't an essential journey.
Plus Cummings is an arrogant twat.
I’ve been saying this for years.
It’s very gratifying people are now starting to notice I was right.
People with these kinds of attitudes always come unstuck eventually.
I do hope I don’t.
Oh, sorry, did you mean Cummings?
I meant Cummings, yes. I like your posts.
My post was not intended entirely seriously
But thank you for the second sentence. I fear I am vain enough to purr at the compliment.
Ah, no worries
Please feel free to purr, I know I get excited when occasionally users like my posts too
I fear I am not very popular on this site.
You are ok CHB. You are committed to your cause. You can give it out but can take it too! 😊
Nothing about Brexit in any of that. All of it makes complete sense.
But it is still Brexit. You know it, I know it
This has got sod all to do with Brexit. Britain has left the EU and, in case you didn't notice, it's not the story any more.
If you genuinely cannot understand the seething anger from the public, who have made immense sacrifices, at being essentially told they are mugs who somehow don't love their children enough, then you're a moron.
Sigh. I understand the anger. I have been extremely critical of this government over their handling of covid-19. On this site. I believe they have been criminally negligent and careers should end. Possibly including the PM's
My point is that the EXTREME ferocity aimed at Cummings is because he did a Brexit on the lawn of posh people. He is verily disliked, thereby
Not in my case - it's because he created this lockdown mess and then wilfully ignored it himself.
Heck it seems he ignored it a second time to see his parents due to the death of his uncle - when a lot of people were unable to travel to see their spouse or parents prior or even after their death because HSE stated that it wasn't an essential journey.
Plus Cummings is an arrogant twat.
I’ve been saying this for years.
It’s very gratifying people are now starting to notice I was right.
People with these kinds of attitudes always come unstuck eventually.
I do hope I don’t.
Oh, sorry, did you mean Cummings?
I meant Cummings, yes. I like your posts.
My post was not intended entirely seriously
But thank you for the second sentence. I fear I am vain enough to purr at the compliment.
Ah, no worries
Please feel free to purr, I know I get excited when occasionally users like my posts too
I fear I am not very popular on this site.
You are ok CHB. You are committed to your cause. You can give it out but can take it too! 😊
That's kind but I won't be able to offer you a position in my Government.
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We all thought she was thick. But maybe she has pulled the old trip to the dentist stunt?
Just a bubble story.
Heck it seems he ignored it a second time to see his parents due to the death of his uncle - when a lot of people were unable to travel to see their spouse or parents prior or even after their death because HSE stated that it wasn't an essential journey.
Plus Cummings is an arrogant twat.
That's probably bad, as not exactly full support.
25,000 is bad enough. There is no need to exaggerate it.
The people whose blood is now boiling aren't the hardened old Remoaner foe or whatever. This is visceral from people who obeyed the rules at great personal expense to save lives, and now think they were treated like mugs.
People have memories.
People who couldn't see their grandkids for weeks, or did not get to go to an old friends funeral.
In what little time off I could get I explored the countryside around Durham. From a cyclist's-eye view one could see definite Roman influences. The Ordnance Survey maps help, and are well worth poring over..
My wife is in the shielding cohort. So we'll be amongst the last to return to the outside world. We'll make that call based on evidence, scientific advice and our own gut feeling. She hasn't seen her mum in months. It isn't a jolly time for us just cos we get a lie in and don't need to iron.
Middle England is exploding tonight.
The only reason he’s still in his job is because of who he is. Any Cabinet minister would long ago have been sacked. Leavers have become so deranged that they mistake anger at his arrogance for a plot against Brexit.
Ironically, they have probably set back their mad cause substantially by defending him so senselessly.
Cummings: Bollocks to that, rules are for little people and their little lives.
Bye!
It’s very gratifying people are now starting to notice I was right.
They know their readership.
About 5% of Remainers are still on this and begging to rejoin. I am telling you, most people don't give a toss about Brexit anymore.
Where are the sales in sitting on the fence? They needed to come out swinging one way or another.
Bye bye baby goodbye.
Anyone who thought that would wash is denser than Richard Burgon.
In 1988, Boris was sacked from his job at The Times newspaper over allegations he fabricated a quote from his godfather, the historian Colin Lucas, for a front-page article about the discovery of Edward II’s Rose Palace.
And in 2003, after becoming leader of the Conservatives, Michael Howard gave Boris two new jobs – party vice-chairman and shadow arts minister. Boris was sacked from both positions in November 2004 after assuring Mr Howard that tabloid reports of his affair with Spectator columnist Petronella Wyatt were false and an “inverted pyramid of piffle”. When the story was found to be true, he refused to resign.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-lies-conservative-leader-candidate-list-times-banana-brexit-bus-a8929076.html
They leant their vote to a new type of Tory Party. Looks a lot like the old Tory Party at the moment - will they make that mistake again now that Labour has woken up?
Oh, sorry, did you mean Cummings?
I doubt he will make it beyond the Bank Holiday.
The photos alone in the press are fucking awful.
I just think Boris is wrong and has lost his way. He is not well and I doubt he will last long. It does not mean I am suddenly voting labour. That thought has not crossed my mind
Superb.
But thank you for the second sentence. I fear I am vain enough to purr at the compliment.
Please feel free to purr, I know I get excited when occasionally users like my posts too
I fear I am not very popular on this site.
Imagine if you then discover that the lockdown has cost you your job and there are no other jobs available.
Although TBF it’s their lack of common sense that’s the bigger problem.
Tory MPs are hearing from people who are furious and aren't all rabid Remainers.
https://twitter.com/homelesshorse/status/1264665109202382850?s=20
Why do you think the phrase "there's one law for the rich and another law for us" is so well know.
That doesn't make it right and that doesn't mean you shouldn't be angry about it.
But that's the way it is and that's the way it always will be.
And its irrelevant who is in power.
If we had a government of PBers we'd soon discover that our mistakes and misconduct were treated in a more generous way than those of others.
Either way, Boris does not look like a Leader. If his rating tank sufficiently, the Tory Party's usual ruthlessness will do for his political career.
https://twitter.com/JimMFelton/status/1264664747049451521
The last 5 months have been an eternity but Boris really doesn't look good.
As I said earlier, Boris was a clown you laughed with, today he became a clown you laughed at.
We lost, Brexit has been delivered.
But they're still talking about this issue, when there are now other issues that are more important.
I can't think re-running the referendum again in 2024 will work very well.