If the UK aren't going to exempt the French, I presume the French won't reciprocate, so no holidays in the South of France for anybody thinking they were going to....Outraged of Oxford will soon be writing to the Guardian about this.
Never mind, there is always Blackpool or Southend
Imagine thinking that Blackpool or Southend are good places to go on holiday. Next you’ll be suggesting Whitley Bay!
Honestly, going to shitholes makes you appreciate the best places even more.
Like the time I had to stay in a Premier Inn.
Premier Inns are fine , better than Travellodge.
It might have been a Travel lodge.
They handed me my breakfast at check in.
I thought it was just complimentary stuff you get at check in.
The next morning was a shock when I was informed that I had been handed my breakfast at check in.
First it was for arrival by air.....that lasted a few hours before it became all forms of transport.
Have they confirmed what quarantine is yet? Is it just dont go out but we wont check?
No they've said the details will be announced by the end of the month I think.
The end of the month. This is just embarrassing. I really don't understand the thinking behind this at all. If we had brought in mandatory quarantine in February for those coming back from the ski slopes or from Madrid we would almost certainly not be where we are.
Guernsey introduced selective self quarantine in early March, then absolute quarantine for all arrivals from the 19th. It has now had two weeks without a new case and only 7 active cases remaining. It also has the UK equivalent of 35,000 Track n'Trace people already trained vs the 18,000 the UK is starting to recruit.
Yes, its a lot easier in a small jurisdiction - but why the UK has persisted in this non-quarantine of arrivals strikes me as "too clever by half".
Is there any country in Europe where this is not in chaos?
"On May 2, France’s Minister of Health Olivier Véran said that anyone coming from abroad would have to go through quarantine for two weeks, as a part of the country’s efforts to stop the spread of Coronavirus.
The next day Veran announced that the imposed quarantine would not include the UK citizens, European citizens and Schengen area citizens.
“People entering the French territory from countries in the European area (EU / Schengen and the United Kingdom) will NOT be affected by the quarantine measure announced in France, the details of which will be determined shortly,” the French consulate in Britain stressed.
However, up to this point, it remains unclear where and how citizens coming from abroad in France will be quarantined, but, according to the reports, hotels and medical centres will be used for this purpose, though this is not confirmed yet."
If the UK aren't going to exempt the French, I presume the French won't reciprocate, so no holidays in the South of France for anybody thinking they were going to....Outraged of Oxford will soon be writing to the Guardian about this.
Why would anyone want to go to the South of France for a holiday when the UK has Blackpool, Cleethorpes, and Southend-on-Sea?
I'd put Devon, Cornwall, Dorset, Pembrokeshire and the west coast of Scotland ahead of those but each to their own.
When will the EU realise the UK holds all the cards?
When will the EU realise we've left?
I think they know that, with Boris Johnson putting a border down the Irish Sea and effectively giving up Norn Iron to the EU you can't blame the EU for thinking Boris Johnson's a terrible negotiator.
He has allowed the Germans to annex part of the UK without a shot being fired.
And he thinks he's the new Winston Churchill. The irony of it. And the shame.
IN fairness the Germans annexed the Channel Islands without a shot. Or was that not part of the UK?
I think now that people have had time to digest the new "stay alert" messaging it's going down better than I expected. Lots of people going out but there does seem to be a concerted effort from.everyone to keep their distance. I think Boris will have to do another address to the nation on mask wearing though, basically teach everyone how to put on on, how to take off correctly and make them mandatory. Take up is pitiful around these parts. I've shaved my beard to wear one.😭
Mask wearing just ain't gonna happen in the UK, it seems.
I think there might be strong resistance from HM coppers and spooks to mask wearing becoming common practice. Plays hell with facial recognition. Almost worth welcoming it for that fact alone.
If the UK aren't going to exempt the French, I presume the French won't reciprocate, so no holidays in the South of France for anybody thinking they were going to....Outraged of Oxford will soon be writing to the Guardian about this.
Never mind, there is always Blackpool or Southend
Imagine thinking that Blackpool or Southend are good places to go on holiday. Next you’ll be suggesting Whitley Bay!
My sister had a flat in Whitley Bay in the late fifties
It’s now slowly turning into a nice commuter town for Newcastle, but a holiday destination it is not!
To be honest when my sister lived there is was quite popular but that was over 60 years ago
I stayed in Llandudno ten years ago. It was really quite good!
If the UK aren't going to exempt the French, I presume the French won't reciprocate, so no holidays in the South of France for anybody thinking they were going to....Outraged of Oxford will soon be writing to the Guardian about this.
Why would anyone want to go to the South of France for a holiday when the UK has Blackpool, Cleethorpes, and Southend-on-Sea?
I'd put Devon, Cornwall, Dorset, Pembrokeshire and the west coast of Scotland ahead of those but each to their own.
Oh I agree.
I just have a soft spot for Blackpool.
But Cleethorpes is full of Dingles and Southend is in Essex! Ugh.
When will the EU realise the UK holds all the cards?
When will the EU realise we've left?
I think they know that, with Boris Johnson putting a border down the Irish Sea and effectively giving up Norn Iron to the EU you can't blame the EU for thinking Boris Johnson's a terrible negotiator.
He has allowed the Germans to annex part of the UK without a shot being fired.
And he thinks he's the new Winston Churchill. The irony of it. And the shame.
IN fairness the Germans annexed the Channel Islands without a shot. Or was that not part of the UK?
The Channel Islands are not and never have been part of the United Kingdom. And the circumstances were obviously very, very different.
The Channel Islands were only given up because they were indefensible given their size and location, and they were liberated at the end of the War of course. Whereas the current Government isn't particularly bothered about what happens to Northern Ireland (indeed, I suspect that it would be relieved to wave bye bye to it.)
If the UK aren't going to exempt the French, I presume the French won't reciprocate, so no holidays in the South of France for anybody thinking they were going to....Outraged of Oxford will soon be writing to the Guardian about this.
Why would anyone want to go to the South of France for a holiday when the UK has Blackpool, Cleethorpes, and Southend-on-Sea?
I'd put Devon, Cornwall, Dorset, Pembrokeshire and the west coast of Scotland ahead of those but each to their own.
Oh I agree.
I just have a soft spot for Blackpool.
But Cleethorpes is full of Dingles and Southend is in Essex! Ugh.
Even Alistair Meeks lives in Essex and he is even more ponceyboots lawyer and Brexit hater than you
First it was for arrival by air.....that lasted a few hours before it became all forms of transport.
Have they confirmed what quarantine is yet? Is it just dont go out but we wont check?
No they've said the details will be announced by the end of the month I think.
The end of the month. This is just embarrassing. I really don't understand the thinking behind this at all. If we had brought in mandatory quarantine in February for those coming back from the ski slopes or from Madrid we would almost certainly not be where we are.
Guernsey introduced selective self quarantine in early March, then absolute quarantine for all arrivals from the 19th. It has now had two weeks without a new case and only 7 active cases remaining. It also has the UK equivalent of 35,000 Track n'Trace people already trained vs the 18,000 the UK is starting to recruit.
Yes, its a lot easier in a small jurisdiction - but why the UK has persisted in this non-quarantine of arrivals strikes me as "too clever by half".
So the number of people trained in Guernsey is .... er .... TWO, which could be a parkkeeper and his oppo.
:-D
Gently suggest that that is hardly a relevant comparison.
When will the EU realise the UK holds all the cards?
When will the EU realise we've left?
I think they know that, with Boris Johnson putting a border down the Irish Sea and effectively giving up Norn Iron to the EU you can't blame the EU for thinking Boris Johnson's a terrible negotiator.
He has allowed the Germans to annex part of the UK without a shot being fired.
And he thinks he's the new Winston Churchill. The irony of it. And the shame.
IN fairness the Germans annexed the Channel Islands without a shot. Or was that not part of the UK?
Still isn’t. Reports to the Queen as Duke of Normandy.
A 6 point Biden lead in Florida is Trump Toast level of lead. Absolute smashing.
I'll believe it when I see it.
4 Nov -
Hey, I am not just on the Trump is Going to Lose train I am the Conductor. But Florida by 6 would be a monstrous win in modern terms.
Biden has polled surprisingly well in Florida given it was a poor set of results for the Democrats in 2018 set against a national "wave" election.
It would be a huge boost for him. As it stands, gaining the three most marginal Trump 2016 states (Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin) would be enough but leaves no room for error. Winning Florida would allow him to miss any ONE of those three, or Wisconsin plus one of the others. It increases his margin of error quite a bit.
When will the EU realise the UK holds all the cards?
When will the EU realise we've left?
I think they know that, with Boris Johnson putting a border down the Irish Sea and effectively giving up Norn Iron to the EU you can't blame the EU for thinking Boris Johnson's a terrible negotiator.
He has allowed the Germans to annex part of the UK without a shot being fired.
And he thinks he's the new Winston Churchill. The irony of it. And the shame.
IN fairness the Germans annexed the Channel Islands without a shot. Or was that not part of the UK?
The Channel Islands are not and never have been part of the United Kingdom. And the circumstances were obviously very, very different.
The Channel Islands were only given up because they were indefensible given their size and location, and they were liberated at the end of the War of course. Whereas the current Government isn't particularly bothered about what happens to Northern Ireland (indeed, I suspect that it would be relieved to wave bye bye to it.)
The Channel Islands collaborated more with the Nazis and had less resistance than French during WWII, the Channel Islands (and Guernsey) definitely aren't British.
If the UK aren't going to exempt the French, I presume the French won't reciprocate, so no holidays in the South of France for anybody thinking they were going to....Outraged of Oxford will soon be writing to the Guardian about this.
Why would anyone want to go to the South of France for a holiday when the UK has Blackpool, Cleethorpes, and Southend-on-Sea?
Ubergeeks like yours truly will point out that Blackpool has an extensive tram line, Cleethorpes rail station is almost directly on the beach, and that Southend has both a narrow-gauge pier railway and a clifftop funicular!
My usual train for commuting was the Cleethorpes to Manchester Airport service.
I last went to Cleethorpes in November, after doing the Saturday-only Retford to Barnetby train.
If the UK aren't going to exempt the French, I presume the French won't reciprocate, so no holidays in the South of France for anybody thinking they were going to....Outraged of Oxford will soon be writing to the Guardian about this.
Why would anyone want to go to the South of France for a holiday when the UK has Blackpool, Cleethorpes, and Southend-on-Sea?
I'd put Devon, Cornwall, Dorset, Pembrokeshire and the west coast of Scotland ahead of those but each to their own.
Oh I agree.
I just have a soft spot for Blackpool.
But Cleethorpes is full of Dingles and Southend is in Essex! Ugh.
Rachel Riley is from Southend! On a more personal note, my late dad used to play cricket for a local club there back in the '60s.
I think now that people have had time to digest the new "stay alert" messaging it's going down better than I expected. Lots of people going out but there does seem to be a concerted effort from.everyone to keep their distance. I think Boris will have to do another address to the nation on mask wearing though, basically teach everyone how to put on on, how to take off correctly and make them mandatory. Take up is pitiful around these parts. I've shaved my beard to wear one.😭
Mask wearing just ain't gonna happen in the UK, it seems.
I think there might be strong resistance from HM coppers and spooks to mask wearing becoming common practice. Plays hell with facial recognition. Almost worth welcoming it for that fact alone.
Wore a mask down Tesco yesterday. There were about two other users (despite the fact that observance of social distancing rules around here appears to be very good.) Probably shan't bother again.
If the UK aren't going to exempt the French, I presume the French won't reciprocate, so no holidays in the South of France for anybody thinking they were going to....Outraged of Oxford will soon be writing to the Guardian about this.
Never mind, there is always Blackpool or Southend
Imagine thinking that Blackpool or Southend are good places to go on holiday. Next you’ll be suggesting Whitley Bay!
My sister had a flat in Whitley Bay in the late fifties
It’s now slowly turning into a nice commuter town for Newcastle, but a holiday destination it is not!
To be honest when my sister lived there is was quite popular but that was over 60 years ago
I stayed in Llandudno ten years ago. It was really quite good!
Llandudno has the Great Orme Tramway - much recommended!
When will the EU realise the UK holds all the cards?
When will the EU realise we've left?
I think they know that, with Boris Johnson putting a border down the Irish Sea and effectively giving up Norn Iron to the EU you can't blame the EU for thinking Boris Johnson's a terrible negotiator.
He has allowed the Germans to annex part of the UK without a shot being fired.
And he thinks he's the new Winston Churchill. The irony of it. And the shame.
IN fairness the Germans annexed the Channel Islands without a shot. Or was that not part of the UK?
The Channel Islands are not and never have been part of the United Kingdom. And the circumstances were obviously very, very different.
The Channel Islands were only given up because they were indefensible given their size and location, and they were liberated at the end of the War of course. Whereas the current Government isn't particularly bothered about what happens to Northern Ireland (indeed, I suspect that it would be relieved to wave bye bye to it.)
Thought the Nazis occupied the Channel Islands, rather than *annexed* them.
If the UK aren't going to exempt the French, I presume the French won't reciprocate, so no holidays in the South of France for anybody thinking they were going to....Outraged of Oxford will soon be writing to the Guardian about this.
Never mind, there is always Blackpool or Southend
Imagine thinking that Blackpool or Southend are good places to go on holiday. Next you’ll be suggesting Whitley Bay!
Honestly, going to shitholes makes you appreciate the best places even more.
Like the time I had to stay in a Premier Inn.
Premier Inns are fine , better than Travellodge.
It might have been a Travel lodge.
They handed me my breakfast at check in.
I thought it was just complimentary stuff you get at check in.
The next morning was a shock when I was informed that I had been handed my breakfast at check in.
Hah sounds like Dean Clough Travelodge, Halifax. £19 a night and still poor value when I stayed there ten years ago.
When will the EU realise the UK holds all the cards?
When will the EU realise we've left?
I think they know that, with Boris Johnson putting a border down the Irish Sea and effectively giving up Norn Iron to the EU you can't blame the EU for thinking Boris Johnson's a terrible negotiator.
He has allowed the Germans to annex part of the UK without a shot being fired.
And he thinks he's the new Winston Churchill. The irony of it. And the shame.
IN fairness the Germans annexed the Channel Islands without a shot. Or was that not part of the UK?
The Channel Islands are not and never have been part of the United Kingdom. And the circumstances were obviously very, very different.
The Channel Islands were only given up because they were indefensible given their size and location, and they were liberated at the end of the War of course. Whereas the current Government isn't particularly bothered about what happens to Northern Ireland (indeed, I suspect that it would be relieved to wave bye bye to it.)
The Channel Islands collaborated more with the Nazis and had less resistance than French during WWII, the Channel Islands (and Guernsey) definitely aren't British.
True but had a massively higher level of German soldier to native population ratio than France too. 'The Model Occupation' painted the Islanders as not being willing to resist in the way that the French did, but as all history, its a very complicated story.
When will the EU realise the UK holds all the cards?
When will the EU realise we've left?
I think they know that, with Boris Johnson putting a border down the Irish Sea and effectively giving up Norn Iron to the EU you can't blame the EU for thinking Boris Johnson's a terrible negotiator.
He has allowed the Germans to annex part of the UK without a shot being fired.
And he thinks he's the new Winston Churchill. The irony of it. And the shame.
IN fairness the Germans annexed the Channel Islands without a shot. Or was that not part of the UK?
Nope, they don't send MPs to Westminster. Same with Isle of Man.
If the UK aren't going to exempt the French, I presume the French won't reciprocate, so no holidays in the South of France for anybody thinking they were going to....Outraged of Oxford will soon be writing to the Guardian about this.
Never mind, there is always Blackpool or Southend
Imagine thinking that Blackpool or Southend are good places to go on holiday. Next you’ll be suggesting Whitley Bay!
My sister had a flat in Whitley Bay in the late fifties
I stayed there , whilst working for Portacabin from York in the early 80s. We were fitting out temporary office blocks at Swanhunters shipyard Wallsend, just after the falkland war. I was sat in a pub one Tuesday night , when the window was smashed . A bit of a shock compared to a midweek night out in York.
If the UK aren't going to exempt the French, I presume the French won't reciprocate, so no holidays in the South of France for anybody thinking they were going to....Outraged of Oxford will soon be writing to the Guardian about this.
Never mind, there is always Blackpool or Southend
Imagine thinking that Blackpool or Southend are good places to go on holiday. Next you’ll be suggesting Whitley Bay!
My sister had a flat in Whitley Bay in the late fifties
It’s now slowly turning into a nice commuter town for Newcastle, but a holiday destination it is not!
To be honest when my sister lived there is was quite popular but that was over 60 years ago
I stayed in Llandudno ten years ago. It was really quite good!
Llandudno has the Great Orme Tramway - much recommended!
We also did Llandudno - Blaenau Ffestiniog while we were there. It was wet.
When will the EU realise we've left? I don't think that's the problem. The EU is acting defensively and Brexiteers won't take responsibility for the consequences of their own actions and blame the EU/Remainers instead. Both those things were baked in from the get-go.
When will the EU realise one of the reasons we left was so that we DON'T have a level playing field. Keep bleating "level playing field" - and we'll soon all be singing Auld Lang Syne and no futher forward...
When will the EU realise the UK holds all the cards?
When will the EU realise we've left?
I think they know that, with Boris Johnson putting a border down the Irish Sea and effectively giving up Norn Iron to the EU you can't blame the EU for thinking Boris Johnson's a terrible negotiator.
He has allowed the Germans to annex part of the UK without a shot being fired.
And he thinks he's the new Winston Churchill. The irony of it. And the shame.
IN fairness the Germans annexed the Channel Islands without a shot. Or was that not part of the UK?
The Channel Islands are not and never have been part of the United Kingdom. And the circumstances were obviously very, very different.
The Channel Islands were only given up because they were indefensible given their size and location, and they were liberated at the end of the War of course. Whereas the current Government isn't particularly bothered about what happens to Northern Ireland (indeed, I suspect that it would be relieved to wave bye bye to it.)
Thought the Nazis occupied the Channel Islands, rather than *annexed* them.
splitting hairs there, they took them without a shot and blew a few raspberries across the channel
On the subject of holidays, we've transfered our Cornwall cottage booking forward a year to June 2021 but while I was on the phone sorting that, desparate for a holiday this year, I booked another week in Cornwall for October this year.
When will the EU realise the UK holds all the cards?
When will the EU realise we've left?
I think they know that, with Boris Johnson putting a border down the Irish Sea and effectively giving up Norn Iron to the EU you can't blame the EU for thinking Boris Johnson's a terrible negotiator.
He has allowed the Germans to annex part of the UK without a shot being fired.
And he thinks he's the new Winston Churchill. The irony of it. And the shame.
IN fairness the Germans annexed the Channel Islands without a shot. Or was that not part of the UK?
The Channel Islands are not and never have been part of the United Kingdom. And the circumstances were obviously very, very different.
The Channel Islands were only given up because they were indefensible given their size and location, and they were liberated at the end of the War of course. Whereas the current Government isn't particularly bothered about what happens to Northern Ireland (indeed, I suspect that it would be relieved to wave bye bye to it.)
The Channel Islands collaborated more with the Nazis and had less resistance than French during WWII, the Channel Islands (and Guernsey) definitely aren't British.
In fairness to the Channel Islands, it would've been really hard to run an effective resistance on such tiny islands. Hiding activities is hard in small communities; how many people have real expertise in operations; there were limited valuable targets given fringe role of Channel Islands in supply chains (hence not a priority for external support). There had also been fairly significant civilian evacuation.
On the subject of holidays, we've transfered our Cornwall cottage booking forward a year to June 2021 but while I was on the phone sorting that, desparate for a holiday this year, I booked another week in Cornwall for October this year.
Inspired or foolish?
You'll be fine. We'll have forgotten all about it by then.
First it was for arrival by air.....that lasted a few hours before it became all forms of transport.
Have they confirmed what quarantine is yet? Is it just dont go out but we wont check?
No they've said the details will be announced by the end of the month I think.
The end of the month. This is just embarrassing. I really don't understand the thinking behind this at all. If we had brought in mandatory quarantine in February for those coming back from the ski slopes or from Madrid we would almost certainly not be where we are.
Guernsey introduced selective self quarantine in early March, then absolute quarantine for all arrivals from the 19th. It has now had two weeks without a new case and only 7 active cases remaining. It also has the UK equivalent of 35,000 Track n'Trace people already trained vs the 18,000 the UK is starting to recruit.
Yes, its a lot easier in a small jurisdiction - but why the UK has persisted in this non-quarantine of arrivals strikes me as "too clever by half".
So the number of people trained in Guernsey is .... er .... TWO, which could be a parkkeeper and his oppo.
:-D
Gently suggest that that is hardly a relevant comparison.
35. Two weeks without any new cases. Only 7 active cases. We won’t be letting anyone in from the U.K. without self quarantine any time soon. And there does not appear to be much we can learn from the U.K. either.
When will the EU realise the UK holds all the cards?
When will the EU realise we've left?
I think they know that, with Boris Johnson putting a border down the Irish Sea and effectively giving up Norn Iron to the EU you can't blame the EU for thinking Boris Johnson's a terrible negotiator.
He has allowed the Germans to annex part of the UK without a shot being fired.
And he thinks he's the new Winston Churchill. The irony of it. And the shame.
IN fairness the Germans annexed the Channel Islands without a shot. Or was that not part of the UK?
The Channel Islands are not and never have been part of the United Kingdom. And the circumstances were obviously very, very different.
The Channel Islands were only given up because they were indefensible given their size and location, and they were liberated at the end of the War of course. Whereas the current Government isn't particularly bothered about what happens to Northern Ireland (indeed, I suspect that it would be relieved to wave bye bye to it.)
The Channel Islands collaborated more with the Nazis and had less resistance than French during WWII, the Channel Islands (and Guernsey) definitely aren't British.
Pretty hard to run a meaningful resistance on an island 7 miles by 6 with more troops than citizens on it..
On the subject of holidays, we've transfered our Cornwall cottage booking forward a year to June 2021 but while I was on the phone sorting that, desparate for a holiday this year, I booked another week in Cornwall for October this year.
Inspired or foolish?
You'll be fine. We'll have forgotten all about it by then.
*fingers crossed*
Now you've got me thinking my 10 days in the Italian Lakes in September might be on as well
When will the EU realise we've left? I don't think that's the problem. The EU is acting defensively and Brexiteers won't take responsibility for the consequences of their own actions and blame the EU/Remainers instead. Both those things were baked in from the get-go.
When will the EU realise one of the reasons we left was so that we DON'T have a level playing field. Keep bleating "level playing field" - and we'll soon all be singing Auld Lang Syne and no futher forward...
If the UK aren't going to exempt the French, I presume the French won't reciprocate, so no holidays in the South of France for anybody thinking they were going to....Outraged of Oxford will soon be writing to the Guardian about this.
Why would anyone want to go to the South of France for a holiday when the UK has Blackpool, Cleethorpes, and Southend-on-Sea?
I'd put Devon, Cornwall, Dorset, Pembrokeshire and the west coast of Scotland ahead of those but each to their own.
Oh I agree.
I just have a soft spot for Blackpool.
But Cleethorpes is full of Dingles and Southend is in Essex! Ugh.
Even Alistair Meeks lives in Essex and he is even more ponceyboots lawyer and Brexit hater than you
Aren't you and he and his partner the only remainers in the village?
I think now that people have had time to digest the new "stay alert" messaging it's going down better than I expected. Lots of people going out but there does seem to be a concerted effort from.everyone to keep their distance. I think Boris will have to do another address to the nation on mask wearing though, basically teach everyone how to put on on, how to take off correctly and make them mandatory. Take up is pitiful around these parts. I've shaved my beard to wear one.😭
Mask wearing just ain't gonna happen in the UK, it seems.
I think there might be strong resistance from HM coppers and spooks to mask wearing becoming common practice. Plays hell with facial recognition. Almost worth welcoming it for that fact alone.
Wore a mask down Tesco yesterday. There were about two other users (despite the fact that observance of social distancing rules around here appears to be very good.) Probably shan't bother again.
It's only the incel dorks on here that bleat about masks all the time.
No-one normal wears them. Like you say, people are very good at social distancing - and that's fine.
When will the EU realise the UK holds all the cards?
When will the EU realise we've left?
I think they know that, with Boris Johnson putting a border down the Irish Sea and effectively giving up Norn Iron to the EU you can't blame the EU for thinking Boris Johnson's a terrible negotiator.
He has allowed the Germans to annex part of the UK without a shot being fired.
And he thinks he's the new Winston Churchill. The irony of it. And the shame.
IN fairness the Germans annexed the Channel Islands without a shot. Or was that not part of the UK?
The Channel Islands are not and never have been part of the United Kingdom. And the circumstances were obviously very, very different.
The Channel Islands were only given up because they were indefensible given their size and location, and they were liberated at the end of the War of course. Whereas the current Government isn't particularly bothered about what happens to Northern Ireland (indeed, I suspect that it would be relieved to wave bye bye to it.)
The Channel Islands collaborated more with the Nazis and had less resistance than French during WWII, the Channel Islands (and Guernsey) definitely aren't British.
Where exactly are you going to hide on an island that is only 30 square miles and has one German soldier for every resident? If we want to get technical, England is a colony of the Norman lands of which the Channel Islands are the oldest.
On the subject of holidays, we've transfered our Cornwall cottage booking forward a year to June 2021 but while I was on the phone sorting that, desparate for a holiday this year, I booked another week in Cornwall for October this year.
Inspired or foolish?
You would probably be OK to book a week in Cornwall in August or September never mind October
Apparently the UK is part funding 24 different vaccine approaches.
Hopefully it'll mean we're at or near the top of the queue for one of them should one come good.
Well if the PC police have their way we will be back of the queue...too white, too rich, too male...
Let it go, Francis, let it go. It was just an obscure little opinion piece about Oxford being a breeding ground for a certain type of class-based sense of superiority and entitlement.
This is a quote from it: 'If my university is the first to develop the vaccine, I’m worried that it will be used as it has been in the past, to fulfil its political, patriotic function as proof of British excellence.'
Utterly hateful and stupid - the modern left at its absolute worst.
OTOH -
"We must not forget the lessons that the pandemic has taught us so far: that the UK and the US are in fact not exceptions at the global stage. That we are not only vulnerable but can also afford to learn lessons from countries, regardless of whether we have a special relationship with them – such as South Korea."
Wise words from a woke woman with her thinking cap on. All should heed.
If the UK aren't going to exempt the French, I presume the French won't reciprocate, so no holidays in the South of France for anybody thinking they were going to....Outraged of Oxford will soon be writing to the Guardian about this.
Why would anyone want to go to the South of France for a holiday when the UK has Blackpool, Cleethorpes, and Southend-on-Sea?
I'd put Devon, Cornwall, Dorset, Pembrokeshire and the west coast of Scotland ahead of those but each to their own.
Oh I agree.
I just have a soft spot for Blackpool.
But Cleethorpes is full of Dingles and Southend is in Essex! Ugh.
Even Alistair Meeks lives in Essex and he is even more ponceyboots lawyer and Brexit hater than you
Aren't you and he and his partner the only remainers in the village?
Over a third of Epping Forest voted Remain and more in Saffron Walden so no.
On the subject of holidays, we've transfered our Cornwall cottage booking forward a year to June 2021 but while I was on the phone sorting that, desparate for a holiday this year, I booked another week in Cornwall for October this year.
Inspired or foolish?
You would probably be OK to book a week in Cornwall in August and September never mind October
No availability until October for our favourite cottage! Annoyingly we had the week before July 4th booked.
If the UK aren't going to exempt the French, I presume the French won't reciprocate, so no holidays in the South of France for anybody thinking they were going to....Outraged of Oxford will soon be writing to the Guardian about this.
Never mind, there is always Blackpool or Southend
Imagine thinking that Blackpool or Southend are good places to go on holiday. Next you’ll be suggesting Whitley Bay!
Honestly, going to shitholes makes you appreciate the best places even more.
Like the time I had to stay in a Premier Inn.
Premier Inns are fine , better than Travellodge.
It might have been a Travel lodge.
They handed me my breakfast at check in.
I thought it was just complimentary stuff you get at check in.
The next morning was a shock when I was informed that I had been handed my breakfast at check in.
Was it the Linton travel tavern?
You have to bring your own 12" plate to get the most value out of the buffet there.
When will the EU realise the UK holds all the cards?
When will the EU realise we've left?
I think they know that, with Boris Johnson putting a border down the Irish Sea and effectively giving up Norn Iron to the EU you can't blame the EU for thinking Boris Johnson's a terrible negotiator.
He has allowed the Germans to annex part of the UK without a shot being fired.
And he thinks he's the new Winston Churchill. The irony of it. And the shame.
IN fairness the Germans annexed the Channel Islands without a shot. Or was that not part of the UK?
The Channel Islands are not and never have been part of the United Kingdom. And the circumstances were obviously very, very different.
The Channel Islands were only given up because they were indefensible given their size and location, and they were liberated at the end of the War of course. Whereas the current Government isn't particularly bothered about what happens to Northern Ireland (indeed, I suspect that it would be relieved to wave bye bye to it.)
the Channel Islands (and Guernsey) definitely aren't British.
You’d better tell the Passport Office to stop putting “British Islands” on the passports then! They are British, just not U.K.
When will the EU realise the UK holds all the cards?
When will the EU realise we've left?
I think they know that, with Boris Johnson putting a border down the Irish Sea and effectively giving up Norn Iron to the EU you can't blame the EU for thinking Boris Johnson's a terrible negotiator.
He has allowed the Germans to annex part of the UK without a shot being fired.
And he thinks he's the new Winston Churchill. The irony of it. And the shame.
IN fairness the Germans annexed the Channel Islands without a shot. Or was that not part of the UK?
The Channel Islands are not and never have been part of the United Kingdom. And the circumstances were obviously very, very different.
The Channel Islands were only given up because they were indefensible given their size and location, and they were liberated at the end of the War of course. Whereas the current Government isn't particularly bothered about what happens to Northern Ireland (indeed, I suspect that it would be relieved to wave bye bye to it.)
The Channel Islands collaborated more with the Nazis and had less resistance than French during WWII, the Channel Islands (and Guernsey) definitely aren't British.
In fairness to the Channel Islands, it would've been really hard to run an effective resistance on such tiny islands. Hiding activities is hard in small communities; how many people have real expertise in operations; there were limited valuable targets given fringe role of Channel Islands in supply chains (hence not a priority for external support). There had also been fairly significant civilian evacuation.
Given their lack of strategic value, the Channel Islands probably contributed more to the Allied ward effort by keeping a German division tied up and having a shitload of extremely heavy but pointless fortifications built.
When will the EU realise we've left? I don't think that's the problem. The EU is acting defensively and Brexiteers won't take responsibility for the consequences of their own actions and blame the EU/Remainers instead. Both those things were baked in from the get-go.
When will the EU realise one of the reasons we left was so that we DON'T have a level playing field. Keep bleating "level playing field" - and we'll soon all be singing Auld Lang Syne and no futher forward...
They do realise that, hence their position.
The obvious UK response is to call their bluff and "dump" on them under WTO.
Undercut them where they most fear it and challenge their model.
On the subject of holidays, we've transfered our Cornwall cottage booking forward a year to June 2021 but while I was on the phone sorting that, desparate for a holiday this year, I booked another week in Cornwall for October this year.
Inspired or foolish?
I wouldn't book anything outside a one month horizon at the moment.
If the UK aren't going to exempt the French, I presume the French won't reciprocate, so no holidays in the South of France for anybody thinking they were going to....Outraged of Oxford will soon be writing to the Guardian about this.
Never mind, there is always Blackpool or Southend
Imagine thinking that Blackpool or Southend are good places to go on holiday. Next you’ll be suggesting Whitley Bay!
Honestly, going to shitholes makes you appreciate the best places even more.
Like the time I had to stay in a Premier Inn.
Premier Inns are fine , better than Travellodge.
It might have been a Travel lodge.
They handed me my breakfast at check in.
I thought it was just complimentary stuff you get at check in.
The next morning was a shock when I was informed that I had been handed my breakfast at check in.
Was it the Linton travel tavern?
You have to bring your own 12" plate to get the most value out of the buffet there.
It had a buffet?! Absolute luxury - the really shite Travelodges have an over-priced, under-stocked vending machine as a .restaurant'.
To be fair to the BBC, they sort of managed to explain the R0 situation correctly...how up is probably actually down for most people, after saying it went up, and then kept repeating it was up.
First it was for arrival by air.....that lasted a few hours before it became all forms of transport.
Have they confirmed what quarantine is yet? Is it just dont go out but we wont check?
No they've said the details will be announced by the end of the month I think.
The end of the month. This is just embarrassing. I really don't understand the thinking behind this at all. If we had brought in mandatory quarantine in February for those coming back from the ski slopes or from Madrid we would almost certainly not be where we are.
Guernsey introduced selective self quarantine in early March, then absolute quarantine for all arrivals from the 19th. It has now had two weeks without a new case and only 7 active cases remaining. It also has the UK equivalent of 35,000 Track n'Trace people already trained vs the 18,000 the UK is starting to recruit.
Yes, its a lot easier in a small jurisdiction - but why the UK has persisted in this non-quarantine of arrivals strikes me as "too clever by half".
So the number of people trained in Guernsey is .... er .... TWO, which could be a parkkeeper and his oppo.
:-D
Gently suggest that that is hardly a relevant comparison.
35. Two weeks without any new cases. Only 7 active cases. We won’t be letting anyone in from the U.K. without self quarantine any time soon. And there does not appear to be much we can learn from the U.K. either.
Small island communities do seem to be at something of an advantage in this situation. I'm sure I read somewhere that the Scottish Northern and Western Isles were in a not dissimilar position.
Apparently the UK is part funding 24 different vaccine approaches.
Hopefully it'll mean we're at or near the top of the queue for one of them should one come good.
Well if the PC police have their way we will be back of the queue...too white, too rich, too male...
Let it go, Francis, let it go. It was just an obscure little opinion piece about Oxford being a breeding ground for a certain type of class-based sense of superiority and entitlement.
No, it was the usual self-hating-but-not-actually-me nonsense.
I am reminded of the Canadian Green vs US General on missile defence.
There's a lot to like about the article but the hookline re the virus is crass. I suppose that was done to generate hits and controversy. You know how it goes.
On the subject of holidays, we've transfered our Cornwall cottage booking forward a year to June 2021 but while I was on the phone sorting that, desparate for a holiday this year, I booked another week in Cornwall for October this year.
Inspired or foolish?
I wouldn't book anything outside a one month horizon at the moment.
Lol! Inside a one month horizon and I am not allowed to travel for a holiday.
When will the EU realise we've left? I don't think that's the problem. The EU is acting defensively and Brexiteers won't take responsibility for the consequences of their own actions and blame the EU/Remainers instead. Both those things were baked in from the get-go.
When will the EU realise one of the reasons we left was so that we DON'T have a level playing field. Keep bleating "level playing field" - and we'll soon all be singing Auld Lang Syne and no futher forward...
They do realise that, hence their position.
The obvious UK response is to call their bluff and "dump" on them under WTO.
Undercut them where they most fear it and challenge their model.
They'll soon be back at the table.
Didn't you forget "...because they need us more than we need them."?
When will the EU realise we've left? I don't think that's the problem. The EU is acting defensively and Brexiteers won't take responsibility for the consequences of their own actions and blame the EU/Remainers instead. Both those things were baked in from the get-go.
When will the EU realise one of the reasons we left was so that we DON'T have a level playing field. Keep bleating "level playing field" - and we'll soon all be singing Auld Lang Syne and no futher forward...
They do realise that, hence their position.
The obvious UK response is to call their bluff and "dump" on them under WTO.
Undercut them where they most fear it and challenge their model.
They'll soon be back at the table.
Absolute fantasy. The world does not revolve around the UK, they will get on with their lives and wait for us to change our mind.
On the subject of holidays, we've transfered our Cornwall cottage booking forward a year to June 2021 but while I was on the phone sorting that, desparate for a holiday this year, I booked another week in Cornwall for October this year.
Inspired or foolish?
I wouldn't book anything outside a one month horizon at the moment.
Lol! Inside a one month horizon and I am not allowed to travel for a holiday.
I mean only book within a month or less of when you intend to travel.
So, if you want to go away in July then wait until early-mid June.
On the subject of holidays, we've transfered our Cornwall cottage booking forward a year to June 2021 but while I was on the phone sorting that, desparate for a holiday this year, I booked another week in Cornwall for October this year.
Inspired or foolish?
I wouldn't book anything outside a one month horizon at the moment.
Lol! Inside a one month horizon and I am not allowed to travel for a holiday.
I mean only book within a month or less of when you intend to travel.
So, if you want to go away in July then wait until early-mid June.
BoJo was NOT seventeen and a half stone (!) before the virus He's only 5 ft 8 inches tall. If he had weighed that much he would have looked like Mr Creosote.
When will the EU realise we've left? I don't think that's the problem. The EU is acting defensively and Brexiteers won't take responsibility for the consequences of their own actions and blame the EU/Remainers instead. Both those things were baked in from the get-go.
When will the EU realise one of the reasons we left was so that we DON'T have a level playing field. Keep bleating "level playing field" - and we'll soon all be singing Auld Lang Syne and no futher forward...
They do realise that, hence their position.
The obvious UK response is to call their bluff and "dump" on them under WTO.
Undercut them where they most fear it and challenge their model.
They'll soon be back at the table.
We're going to bomb them into accepting our concessions.
It really does look like the UK epicenter is now care homes, I think community transmission is extremely low. Anecdotally messages coming from doctors in the family WhatsApp is of virtually no new virus admissions per day in their London trusts. That is being reflected in the London hospital death rate.
Surely we need to have lockdown carehomes at the L5 measures and L3 for the wider community.
BoJo was NOT seventeen and a half stone (!) before the virus He's only 5 ft 8 inches tall. If he had weighed that much he would have looked like Mr Creosote.
If the UK aren't going to exempt the French, I presume the French won't reciprocate, so no holidays in the South of France for anybody thinking they were going to....Outraged of Oxford will soon be writing to the Guardian about this.
Never mind, there is always Blackpool or Southend
Imagine thinking that Blackpool or Southend are good places to go on holiday. Next you’ll be suggesting Whitley Bay!
My sister had a flat in Whitley Bay in the late fifties
I stayed there , whilst working for Portacabin from York in the early 80s. We were fitting out temporary office blocks at Swanhunters shipyard Wallsend, just after the falkland war. I was sat in a pub one Tuesday night , when the window was smashed . A bit of a shock compared to a midweek night out in York.
Whitley Bay is pretty hip these days. It is a desirable residence for Geordie yuppies. If such a thing exists. Or ever did.
If the UK aren't going to exempt the French, I presume the French won't reciprocate, so no holidays in the South of France for anybody thinking they were going to....Outraged of Oxford will soon be writing to the Guardian about this.
Never mind, there is always Blackpool or Southend
Imagine thinking that Blackpool or Southend are good places to go on holiday. Next you’ll be suggesting Whitley Bay!
Honestly, going to shitholes makes you appreciate the best places even more.
Like the time I had to stay in a Premier Inn.
Premier Inns are fine , better than Travellodge.
It might have been a Travel lodge.
They handed me my breakfast at check in.
I thought it was just complimentary stuff you get at check in.
The next morning was a shock when I was informed that I had been handed my breakfast at check in.
Was it the Linton travel tavern?
You have to bring your own 12" plate to get the most value out of the buffet there.
Nope, this was near Southampton when there was a football match on.
BoJo was NOT seventeen and a half stone (!) before the virus He's only 5 ft 8 inches tall. If he had weighed that much he would have looked like Mr Creosote.
Is he spinning yet another self-serving yarn?
I must admit I thought that was a bit steep. He'd have a BMI of 37.1 which would have given him very little chance of escaping ICU if the general consensus is to be believed*.
(*Although as far as I can tell the actual evidence of an increased Covid-19 risk from obesity is, er, rather thin on the ground.)
When will the EU realise we've left? I don't think that's the problem. The EU is acting defensively and Brexiteers won't take responsibility for the consequences of their own actions and blame the EU/Remainers instead. Both those things were baked in from the get-go.
When will the EU realise one of the reasons we left was so that we DON'T have a level playing field. Keep bleating "level playing field" - and we'll soon all be singing Auld Lang Syne and no futher forward...
They do realise that, hence their position.
The obvious UK response is to call their bluff and "dump" on them under WTO.
Undercut them where they most fear it and challenge their model.
They'll soon be back at the table.
We're going to bomb them into accepting our concessions.
'They sowed the wind, and now they are going to reap the whirlwind.'
What's a travelodge? I have heard about them in the way I have heard about these people called the Lib Dems.
The Hawaiian pizzas of hotels.
As a poor grad student, in early days of dating Mrs U, we went away on a trip and I booked to stay at a travelodge at it was obviously cheap.
Mrs U being of rather classier background than me, had never stayed at such an establishment. I was soon informed if we wanted to carry on dating that this would be the last time we would be staying at such an establishment.
When will the EU realise we've left? I don't think that's the problem. The EU is acting defensively and Brexiteers won't take responsibility for the consequences of their own actions and blame the EU/Remainers instead. Both those things were baked in from the get-go.
When will the EU realise one of the reasons we left was so that we DON'T have a level playing field. Keep bleating "level playing field" - and we'll soon all be singing Auld Lang Syne and no futher forward...
They do realise that, hence their position.
The obvious UK response is to call their bluff and "dump" on them under WTO.
Undercut them where they most fear it and challenge their model.
They'll soon be back at the table.
We're going to bomb them into accepting our concessions.
Maybe we could scare them into submission by sending lots of unmasked UK tourists to their beaches?
When will the EU realise the UK holds all the cards?
When will the EU realise we've left?
I think they know that, with Boris Johnson putting a border down the Irish Sea and effectively giving up Norn Iron to the EU you can't blame the EU for thinking Boris Johnson's a terrible negotiator.
He has allowed the Germans to annex part of the UK without a shot being fired.
And he thinks he's the new Winston Churchill. The irony of it. And the shame.
IN fairness the Germans annexed the Channel Islands without a shot. Or was that not part of the UK?
The Channel Islands are not and never have been part of the United Kingdom. And the circumstances were obviously very, very different.
The Channel Islands were only given up because they were indefensible given their size and location, and they were liberated at the end of the War of course. Whereas the current Government isn't particularly bothered about what happens to Northern Ireland (indeed, I suspect that it would be relieved to wave bye bye to it.)
The Channel Islands collaborated more with the Nazis and had less resistance than French during WWII, the Channel Islands (and Guernsey) definitely aren't British.
In fairness to the Channel Islands, it would've been really hard to run an effective resistance on such tiny islands. Hiding activities is hard in small communities; how many people have real expertise in operations; there were limited valuable targets given fringe role of Channel Islands in supply chains (hence not a priority for external support). There had also been fairly significant civilian evacuation.
Given their lack of strategic value, the Channel Islands probably contributed more to the Allied ward effort by keeping a German division tied up and having a shitload of extremely heavy but pointless fortifications built.
Nearly a tenth of the entire “Atlantic Wall”’s concrete was in the Channel Islands and more heavy artillery than than on 600 miles of Normandy coastline. And tens of thousands of German troops who could have been more usefully employed elsewhere...from a German POV. Left to starve after Operation Overlord.
What's a travelodge? I have heard about them in the way I have heard about these people called the Lib Dems.
The Hawaiian pizzas of hotels.
As a poor grad student, in early days of dating Mrs U, we went away on a trip and I booked to stay at a travelodge at it was obviously cheap.
Mrs U being of rather classier background than me, had never stayed at such an establishment. I was soon informed if we wanted to carry on dating that this would be the last time we would be staying at such an establishment.
A 6 point Biden lead in Florida is Trump Toast level of lead. Absolute smashing.
I'll believe it when I see it.
4 Nov -
Hey, I am not just on the Trump is Going to Lose train I am the Conductor. But Florida by 6 would be a monstrous win in modern terms.
Biden has polled surprisingly well in Florida given it was a poor set of results for the Democrats in 2018 set against a national "wave" election.
It would be a huge boost for him. As it stands, gaining the three most marginal Trump 2016 states (Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin) would be enough but leaves no room for error. Winning Florida would allow him to miss any ONE of those three, or Wisconsin plus one of the others. It increases his margin of error quite a bit.
I suspect the sheer volume of retirees in Florida is helping Biden, I doubt many of them are too impressed by Trump's coronavirus antics.
Salford Council say they are in regular contact with the leaders of the city's Orthdox Jewish community after reports of families ignoring lockdown rules.
Pictures have circulated on social media of Jewish families in Higher Broughton allegedly ignoring restrictions and failing to social distance.
Councillor David Lancaster, lead member for environment and community safety, said it was only a "small minority" of the Jewish community who were failing to adhere to social distance measures.
He said the council are in weekly communication with the community leaders to keep residents informed of the latest restrictions. This week marked the beginning of an easing of lockdown restrictions, with new rules including two people from different households being able to meet outdoors at places like parks, as long as they are 2m apart.
However, a resident claimed members of the Jewish community in Salford have not been following the guidelines. They said a night this week saw "lots of parties going down with marquees up in alleyways" and claimed there were gatherings in the street with bonfires also taking place.
If the UK aren't going to exempt the French, I presume the French won't reciprocate, so no holidays in the South of France for anybody thinking they were going to....Outraged of Oxford will soon be writing to the Guardian about this.
Why would anyone want to go to the South of France for a holiday when the UK has Blackpool, Cleethorpes, and Southend-on-Sea?
I'd put Devon, Cornwall, Dorset, Pembrokeshire and the west coast of Scotland ahead of those but each to their own.
Oh I agree.
I just have a soft spot for Blackpool.
But Cleethorpes is full of Dingles and Southend is in Essex! Ugh.
Even Alistair Meeks lives in Essex and he is even more ponceyboots lawyer and Brexit hater than you
Aren't you and he and his partner the only remainers in the village?
Outrageous! @HYUFD is in St George flag Brexit Essex while I’m in Union Jack Brexit Essex.
What's a travelodge? I have heard about them in the way I have heard about these people called the Lib Dems.
The Hawaiian pizzas of hotels.
As a poor grad student, in early days of dating Mrs U, we went away on a trip and I booked to stay at a travelodge at it was obviously cheap.
Mrs U being of rather classier background than me, had never stayed at such an establishment. I was soon informed if we wanted to carry on dating that this would be the last time we would be staying at such an establishment.
BoJo was NOT seventeen and a half stone (!) before the virus He's only 5 ft 8 inches tall. If he had weighed that much he would have looked like Mr Creosote.
Is he spinning yet another self-serving yarn?
I must admit I thought that was a bit steep. He'd have a BMI of 37.1 which would have given him very little chance of escaping ICU if the general consensus is to be believed*.
(*Although as far as I can tell the actual evidence of an increased Covid-19 risk from obesity is, er, rather thin on the ground.)
I'm filing it away with "it was 50/50" and "litres and litres of oxygen".
I sense his battle against the virus is soon going to assume the proportions of Kim Jung Un's legendary round of golf in 1994*.
If the UK aren't going to exempt the French, I presume the French won't reciprocate, so no holidays in the South of France for anybody thinking they were going to....Outraged of Oxford will soon be writing to the Guardian about this.
Why would anyone want to go to the South of France for a holiday when the UK has Blackpool, Cleethorpes, and Southend-on-Sea?
Ubergeeks like yours truly will point out that Blackpool has an extensive tram line, Cleethorpes rail station is almost directly on the beach, and that Southend has both a narrow-gauge pier railway and a clifftop funicular!
My usual train for commuting was the Cleethorpes to Manchester Airport service.
I last went to Cleethorpes in November, after doing the Saturday-only Retford to Barnetby train.
Cleethorpes has seen better days but it isn't quite as depressing as Blackpool. I believe the Humberston 'Fitties' are now listed. I quite like the coastline to the S although it is a bit esoteric for some perhaps.
All I need for a holiday is to be able to park a car in Scotland for a few days. It isn't hard to social distance on Bidein a'Choire Sheasgaich or Ben Alder, although that doesn't exactly benefit the economy much.
Unfortunately May and early June is the time for that kind of thing and August is most definitely not...
BoJo was NOT seventeen and a half stone (!) before the virus He's only 5 ft 8 inches tall. If he had weighed that much he would have looked like Mr Creosote.
Is he spinning yet another self-serving yarn?
I must admit I thought that was a bit steep. He'd have a BMI of 37.1 which would have given him very little chance of escaping ICU if the general consensus is to be believed*.
(*Although as far as I can tell the actual evidence of an increased Covid-19 risk from obesity is, er, rather thin on the ground.)
I'm filing it away with "it was 50/50" and "litres and litres of oxygen".
I sense his battle against the virus is soon going to assume the proportions of Kim Jung Un's legendary round of golf in 1994*.
* 38 under par inc FIVE hole in ones.
Yebbut... 'boasting' you were 17.5 stone hardly fits the bill.
Road Chef lodges were very good before the original owners sold out in the mid-90s. They had one at Taunton Deane on the M5 which I used to stay at overnight when travelling from London to West Cornwall.
Sometimes I would do the journey in a single evening - 300 miles or so - just me, the night and the music and a late dinner at the Little Chef in Victoria (Cornwall).
When will the EU realise we've left? I don't think that's the problem. The EU is acting defensively and Brexiteers won't take responsibility for the consequences of their own actions and blame the EU/Remainers instead. Both those things were baked in from the get-go.
When will the EU realise one of the reasons we left was so that we DON'T have a level playing field. Keep bleating "level playing field" - and we'll soon all be singing Auld Lang Syne and no futher forward...
They do realise that, hence their position.
The obvious UK response is to call their bluff and "dump" on them under WTO.
Undercut them where they most fear it and challenge their model.
What's a travelodge? I have heard about them in the way I have heard about these people called the Lib Dems.
Travelodge or Premier Inn?
Premier Inns are a Godsend - clean, comfortable and reliable. The one about half-a-mile up the road from my Mother-in-Law's place is ideal for visits (she's of an age now and not really up to catering for guests.) Hopefully it's still there and operational when we can finally make the trip again. I am not optimistic that this will happen soon.
What's a travelodge? I have heard about them in the way I have heard about these people called the Lib Dems.
Travelodge or Premier Inn?
Premier Inn much better than Travelodge - and not just because I did some work for Whitbread.
It depends. On average yes - there are some dire older Travelodges - but otoh the newest ones are nearly as good as Premier Inn and usually quite a bit cheaper.
I'm confused. We clap our brave NHS workers and have been told today to boo the feckless teachers. And yet the doctors support the teachers. Do I have to boo them now as well?
Good to see horse racing returns in Ireland on June 8th and hopefully the UK will be back the week before and before people worry about the "R" number, it went up in Germany after restrictions were eased and then fell back so we'll see.
As to the "staycation" debate, it's interesting to note in June 2019 British people abroad spent twice as much as visitors to the UK.
About twice as many British people travelled abroad as there were visitors to the UK so there's an argument British people staying and spending at home would make more sense than British people travelling abroad and contributing to foreign economies diverse and numerous.
That makes a good few assumptions about how much spending power British people "staycating" or should that be "staycationing" or shall I just stick to spending their holidays in the UK will have to spend come August or September.
Oddly enough, that pattern of two British visits abroad to every one foreign visitor to the UK and £2 spent by British people abroad for every £1 spent by a foreign visitor is quite consistent through the year.
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They handed me my breakfast at check in.
I thought it was just complimentary stuff you get at check in.
The next morning was a shock when I was informed that I had been handed my breakfast at check in.
eg France:
https://www.schengenvisainfo.com/news/frances-new-quarantine-rules-could-be-applied-to-travelers-from-eu-countries/
"On May 2, France’s Minister of Health Olivier Véran said that anyone coming from abroad would have to go through quarantine for two weeks, as a part of the country’s efforts to stop the spread of Coronavirus.
The next day Veran announced that the imposed quarantine would not include the UK citizens, European citizens and Schengen area citizens.
“People entering the French territory from countries in the European area (EU / Schengen and the United Kingdom) will NOT be affected by the quarantine measure announced in France, the details of which will be determined shortly,” the French consulate in Britain stressed.
However, up to this point, it remains unclear where and how citizens coming from abroad in France will be quarantined, but, according to the reports, hotels and medical centres will be used for this purpose, though this is not confirmed yet."
And, yep, it's not the Rust Belt or the Sunshine Belt. It's BOTH.
I just have a soft spot for Blackpool.
But Cleethorpes is full of Dingles and Southend is in Essex! Ugh.
Far quieter than Cornwall or South Devon.
The Channel Islands were only given up because they were indefensible given their size and location, and they were liberated at the end of the War of course. Whereas the current Government isn't particularly bothered about what happens to Northern Ireland (indeed, I suspect that it would be relieved to wave bye bye to it.)
:-D
Gently suggest that that is hardly a relevant comparison.
It would be a huge boost for him. As it stands, gaining the three most marginal Trump 2016 states (Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin) would be enough but leaves no room for error. Winning Florida would allow him to miss any ONE of those three, or Wisconsin plus one of the others. It increases his margin of error quite a bit.
I meant the titan of testing.
Apols.
We were fitting out temporary office blocks at Swanhunters shipyard Wallsend, just after the falkland war.
I was sat in a pub one Tuesday night , when the window was smashed .
A bit of a shock compared to a midweek night out in York.
Inspired or foolish?
*fingers crossed*
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No-one normal wears them. Like you say, people are very good at social distancing - and that's fine.
Where exactly are you going to hide on an island that is only 30 square miles and has one German soldier for every resident? If we want to get technical, England is a colony of the Norman lands of which the Channel Islands are the oldest.
"We must not forget the lessons that the pandemic has taught us so far: that the UK and the US are in fact not exceptions at the global stage. That we are not only vulnerable but can also afford to learn lessons from countries, regardless of whether we have a special relationship with them – such as South Korea."
Wise words from a woke woman with her thinking cap on. All should heed.
Even several Tory councillors here voted Remain
You have to bring your own 12" plate to get the most value out of the buffet there.
Or next year either!
Undercut them where they most fear it and challenge their model.
They'll soon be back at the table.
Though on reflection, I think it's just in Cornwall.
So, if you want to go away in July then wait until early-mid June.
Is he spinning yet another self-serving yarn?
Surely we need to have lockdown carehomes at the L5 measures and L3 for the wider community.
If such a thing exists. Or ever did.
The restaurant was a vending machine.
(*Although as far as I can tell the actual evidence of an increased Covid-19 risk from obesity is, er, rather thin on the ground.)
Mrs U being of rather classier background than me, had never stayed at such an establishment. I was soon informed if we wanted to carry on dating that this would be the last time we would be staying at such an establishment.
I'd sooner sleep in my car than a Travelodge.
Pictures have circulated on social media of Jewish families in Higher Broughton allegedly ignoring restrictions and failing to social distance.
Councillor David Lancaster, lead member for environment and community safety, said it was only a "small minority" of the Jewish community who were failing to adhere to social distance measures.
He said the council are in weekly communication with the community leaders to keep residents informed of the latest restrictions. This week marked the beginning of an easing of lockdown restrictions, with new rules including two people from different households being able to meet outdoors at places like parks, as long as they are 2m apart.
However, a resident claimed members of the Jewish community in Salford have not been following the guidelines. They said a night this week saw "lots of parties going down with marquees up in alleyways" and claimed there were gatherings in the street with bonfires also taking place.
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/council-regular-contact-salfords-orthodox-18245661
https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2020/may/15/coronavirus-us-live-house-vote-stimulus-package-donald-trump-latest-news-updates
I sense his battle against the virus is soon going to assume the proportions of Kim Jung Un's legendary round of golf in 1994*.
* 38 under par inc FIVE hole in ones.
All I need for a holiday is to be able to park a car in Scotland for a few days. It isn't hard to social distance on Bidein a'Choire Sheasgaich or Ben Alder, although that doesn't exactly benefit the economy much.
Unfortunately May and early June is the time for that kind of thing and August is most definitely not...
Sometimes I would do the journey in a single evening - 300 miles or so - just me, the night and the music and a late dinner at the Little Chef in Victoria (Cornwall).
It is something that was confirmed when John McCain who was born outside the US was deemed eligible to run for President.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/15/bma-backs-teaching-unions-in-opposing-reopening-of-schools
Good to see horse racing returns in Ireland on June 8th and hopefully the UK will be back the week before and before people worry about the "R" number, it went up in Germany after restrictions were eased and then fell back so we'll see.
As to the "staycation" debate, it's interesting to note in June 2019 British people abroad spent twice as much as visitors to the UK.
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/leisureandtourism/bulletins/overseastravelandtourism/june2019provisionalresults
About twice as many British people travelled abroad as there were visitors to the UK so there's an argument British people staying and spending at home would make more sense than British people travelling abroad and contributing to foreign economies diverse and numerous.
That makes a good few assumptions about how much spending power British people "staycating" or should that be "staycationing" or shall I just stick to spending their holidays in the UK will have to spend come August or September.
Oddly enough, that pattern of two British visits abroad to every one foreign visitor to the UK and £2 spent by British people abroad for every £1 spent by a foreign visitor is quite consistent through the year.