Good job but pretty intellectual and probably way above most people's heads I fear. So the net take may be a muddled belief that you can sort-of end lockdown (which isn't exactly what he said).
You thought that was intellectual?
The self described writers of popular fiction seem unanimous on this point...
What a lot of vacuous rubbish. That could all have been said in a tweet.
That's rubbish, twitter tells you that people are not responsible enough or smart enough to understand the slogan or taking any form of personal resonsibility. It needed the excellent speech and explanation from Boris. That was pretty clear and the alert system is a great idea. If people don't understand 'stay alert' and the words that came with it they now have zero excuse after watching that.
Basically what he said was that you can now exercise more than once a day, and return to work if you can’t work from home.
But at the moment you can’t drive through Spain. My wife may be allowed to visit tomorrow. As movement is allowed within the same health area from tomorrow.
What a lot of vacuous rubbish. That could all have been said in a tweet.
That's rubbish, twitter tells you that people are not responsible enough or smart enough to understand the slogan or taking any form of personal resonsibility. It needed the excellent speech and explanation from Boris. That was pretty clear and the alert system is a great idea. If people don't understand 'stay alert' and the words that came with it they now have zero excuse after watching that.
Basically what he said was that you can now exercise more than once a day, and return to work if you can’t work from home.
Thought it was fine. It didn't r3ally say much we didn't already know, but remember most people don't follow things closely and a roadmap has been demanded.
The big one was if you cant work from home, you should go to work. Death Rigby said the government very worried that the lockdown was too successful when it came to things like construction sector.
That’s odd, because Day Aggregates in Woking seems as busy as ever. We had three stone trains come in last Monday.
Good job but pretty intellectual and probably way above most people's heads I fear. So the net take may be a muddled belief that you can sort-of end lockdown (which isn't exactly what he said).
You thought that was intellectual?
First half, yes. By public standards that would have been pretty tough going. R numbers, graphs and equations. Most of that would've been straight over people's heads.
Not knocking Boris. I liked it. But I fear people will see it as an amber light to do what they want.
Pointless. So few will turn up that there will be nothing of use or importance to do, or staff to do it. One of those things that get quietly dropped (or negated by ‘new’ research).
Will at least allow people to sunbathe in the park, and stop the ludicrous spectacle of people berating others for taking a local drive to open countryside.
What a lot of vacuous rubbish. That could all have been said in a tweet.
That's rubbish, twitter tells you that people are not responsible enough or smart enough to understand the slogan or taking any form of personal resonsibility. It needed the excellent speech and explanation from Boris. That was pretty clear and the alert system is a great idea. If people don't understand 'stay alert' and the words that came with it they now have zero excuse after watching that.
Basically what he said was that you can now exercise more than once a day, and return to work if you can’t work from home.
That’s one tweet.
To be fair he set out the sequence for changes to come. The big question- that no one is talking about - is what is the ultimate aim? Is it eradication?
This is why it was worth waiting for the actual speech. Nothing in that was controversial and it was very clear that if the infection rate starts to rise then we're back to "stay home".
It's a bit of a shot in the dark but it doesn't look like anything announced will have a huge increase in the R, if that turns out to be the case it will seem like a good move, if not we revert and people have their answer as to why we can't end the current lockdown measures.
What a lot of vacuous rubbish. That could all have been said in a tweet.
That's rubbish, twitter tells you that people are not responsible enough or smart enough to understand the slogan or taking any form of personal resonsibility. It needed the excellent speech and explanation from Boris. That was pretty clear and the alert system is a great idea. If people don't understand 'stay alert' and the words that came with it they now have zero excuse after watching that.
Basically what he said was that you can now exercise more than once a day, and return to work if you can’t work from home.
That’s one tweet.
To be fair he set out the sequence for changes to come. The big question- that no one is talking about - is what is the ultimate aim? Is it eradication?
You are assuming he and Cummings have thought them through that far.
Starmer straight on to the public transport thing - ‘how can they get to work tomorrow morning?’
What a lot of vacuous rubbish. That could all have been said in a tweet.
That's rubbish, twitter tells you that people are not responsible enough or smart enough to understand the slogan or taking any form of personal resonsibility. It needed the excellent speech and explanation from Boris. That was pretty clear and the alert system is a great idea. If people don't understand 'stay alert' and the words that came with it they now have zero excuse after watching that.
Basically what he said was that you can now exercise more than once a day, and return to work if you can’t work from home.
That’s one tweet.
Well we have always been allowed to exercise more than once per day, and if we cant work from home we have always been supposed to work at our normal place of work unless it is banned. So those would be zero changes.
We can now sunbathe or rest in parks (hurrah, its an obvious change), and we can clearly drive to a place of exercise. And people on incoming flights will be quarantined.
Those seem to be the changes possibly with more on the never never.
So you can sunbathe and play sports with your family and should go to work if you cannot WFH and work in construction, other than that a fuss about nothing and lockdown stays and no changes.
Simply sets out future steps if the public comply with the rules and quarantine for foreign visitors
Agreed
Schools not to open until June, pubs until July at the earliest
Good job but pretty intellectual and probably way above most people's heads I fear. So the net take may be a muddled belief that you can sort-of end lockdown (which isn't exactly what he said).
You thought that was intellectual?
These 'women' of the 'left' know good intellekshual stuff when they see it.
It's in the nature of devolution that dissolved authorities may take different approach.
While it is reasonable for Scotland, Wales, NI to follow divergent paths, wouldn’t it have been sensible to talk to them first to at least make sure they all knew what the other was doing?
And I say that as somebody who has not exactly been supportive of Sturgeon’s approach today.
It's blindingly obvious that workers aren't going to be expected to arrange new travel plans by tomorrow morning.
This is cheap, childish criticism for the sake of it.
Boris also made it clear the exact details would be laid out tomorrow in parliament. This was about setting the general roadmap, but Keith has demanded.
Hong Kong. 7.5 million people as densely populated as anywhere on the planet. Compulsory face masks. 5 deaths.
Tend to agree. There's clearly a great reluctance in the wider public, but if we'd made it part of some national effort savetheNHS etc etc campaign, people would probably have done it.
What a lot of vacuous rubbish. That could all have been said in a tweet.
That's rubbish, twitter tells you that people are not responsible enough or smart enough to understand the slogan or taking any form of personal resonsibility. It needed the excellent speech and explanation from Boris. That was pretty clear and the alert system is a great idea. If people don't understand 'stay alert' and the words that came with it they now have zero excuse after watching that.
Basically what he said was that you can now exercise more than once a day, and return to work if you can’t work from home.
That’s one tweet.
Well we have always been allowed to exercise more than once per day
Have we? That certainly wasn’t my understanding. Admittedly the wording ‘one form of exercise a day’ is slightly ambiguous.
What a lot of vacuous rubbish. That could all have been said in a tweet.
That's rubbish, twitter tells you that people are not responsible enough or smart enough to understand the slogan or taking any form of personal resonsibility. It needed the excellent speech and explanation from Boris. That was pretty clear and the alert system is a great idea. If people don't understand 'stay alert' and the words that came with it they now have zero excuse after watching that.
Basically what he said was that you can now exercise more than once a day, and return to work if you can’t work from home.
That’s one tweet.
To be fair he set out the sequence for changes to come. The big question- that no one is talking about - is what is the ultimate aim? Is it eradication?
You are assuming he and Cummings have thought them through that far.
Starmer straight on to the public transport thing - ‘how can they get to work tomorrow morning?’
What a lot of vacuous rubbish. That could all have been said in a tweet.
That's rubbish, twitter tells you that people are not responsible enough or smart enough to understand the slogan or taking any form of personal resonsibility. It needed the excellent speech and explanation from Boris. That was pretty clear and the alert system is a great idea. If people don't understand 'stay alert' and the words that came with it they now have zero excuse after watching that.
Basically what he said was that you can now exercise more than once a day, and return to work if you can’t work from home.
That’s one tweet.
To be fair he set out the sequence for changes to come. The big question- that no one is talking about - is what is the ultimate aim? Is it eradication?
You are assuming he and Cummings have thought them through that far.
Starmer straight on to the public transport thing - ‘how can they get to work tomorrow morning?’
Not by public transport if they can help it - although saying that the busiest bus I have seen in Colchester in 2 weeks had a grand total of 2 passengers on it
What a lot of vacuous rubbish. That could all have been said in a tweet.
That's rubbish, twitter tells you that people are not responsible enough or smart enough to understand the slogan or taking any form of personal resonsibility. It needed the excellent speech and explanation from Boris. That was pretty clear and the alert system is a great idea. If people don't understand 'stay alert' and the words that came with it they now have zero excuse after watching that.
Basically what he said was that you can now exercise more than once a day, and return to work if you can’t work from home.
That’s one tweet.
Well we have always been allowed to exercise more than once per day
Have we? That certainly wasn’t my understanding. Admittedly the wording ‘one form of exercise a day’ is slightly ambiguous.
The advice was to exercise once a day, it was never against the rules.
What a lot of vacuous rubbish. That could all have been said in a tweet.
That's rubbish, twitter tells you that people are not responsible enough or smart enough to understand the slogan or taking any form of personal resonsibility. It needed the excellent speech and explanation from Boris. That was pretty clear and the alert system is a great idea. If people don't understand 'stay alert' and the words that came with it they now have zero excuse after watching that.
Basically what he said was that you can now exercise more than once a day, and return to work if you can’t work from home.
That’s one tweet.
To be fair he set out the sequence for changes to come. The big question- that no one is talking about - is what is the ultimate aim? Is it eradication?
You are assuming he and Cummings have thought them through that far.
Starmer straight on to the public transport thing - ‘how can they get to work tomorrow morning?’
Johnson said go in a car or better bike or walk.
OK.
So everyone who goes to Brum by train for non-office work is now expected to drive.
Tomorrow, I shall look for a queue that goes past my front door to Stafford.
But at the moment you can’t drive through Spain. My wife may be allowed to visit tomorrow. As movement is allowed within the same health area from tomorrow.
I think I just heard Ydoethur and every other secondary school teacher scream.
Here is my question.
I’m teaching from home.
If I go back into school, because they don’t have the necessary tech, I can’t do that.
So I might be able to teach 12 and 10.
What happens to 7, 8 and 9?
It sounded like all they are thinking about is a transition day or something. This idea of ‘seeing’ their teacher is nonsensical; likely a hastily changed sentence to replace something that fell apart during the talks with unions.
By the end of June it’s just assemblies (not going to happen), prizegiving (not going to happen), sports days (not going to happen) and concerts (not going to happen) anyway.
Quite embarrassing, really. If they are this confused over education it makes you question everything else. If they just want to let them see their mates they should have just said that.
Good that we now all have an ounce more freedom and some more will retern to work soon, but, overall dismayed at the announcement.
with only 16,000 or whatever it is getting infected a day and R at or near 1, we are not going to any closer to 'heard immunity' any time soon, there for, R is not going to drop in any meaning full way, so we are now stuck at this level, until, we have a vaccine, (maybe that should be if we ever get a vaccine)
Could have been answered in a Tweet that, instead we had an empty and pointless announcement of nothing.
As long as I am unable to leave my home for more than exercise, or go back to work in an office, life has not changed.
Come on CHB, can't you for once, just once, take off the Party glasses?
Nothing has changed for me. Perhaps for other people - but not for me.
Then good yours didn't need to change then. You're able to go to the office now if you need to do so, and if you don't need to do so then what are you bothered about?
It's in the nature of devolution that dissolved authorities may take different approach.
While it is reasonable for Scotland, Wales, NI to follow divergent paths, wouldn’t it have been sensible to talk to them first to at least make sure they all knew what the other was doing?
And I say that as somebody who has not exactly been supportive of Sturgeon’s approach today.
And have Sturgeon announce it at noon?
Very little of substance announced - I suspect there may be more tomorrow in parliament.
I will be fascinated to see what evidence Nicola has that the R rate is higher in Scotland. Given the chronically poor level of testing in Scotland she may just be being cautious. But are we really going to have construction sites open in England and locked up in Scotland? English factories taking contracts from Scottish businesses because they can deliver and Scottish companies can’t?
I do not believe that is a sustainable position. She will need to come in line with Boris very quickly.
So you can sunbathe and play sports with your family and should go to work if you cannot WFH and work in construction, other than that a fuss about nothing and lockdown stays and no changes.
Simply sets out future steps if the public comply with the rules and quarantine for foreign visitors
Are you sure it is just for foreign visitors? I assumed it would include Brits returning from holiday abroad.
What a lot of vacuous rubbish. That could all have been said in a tweet.
That's rubbish, twitter tells you that people are not responsible enough or smart enough to understand the slogan or taking any form of personal resonsibility. It needed the excellent speech and explanation from Boris. That was pretty clear and the alert system is a great idea. If people don't understand 'stay alert' and the words that came with it they now have zero excuse after watching that.
Basically what he said was that you can now exercise more than once a day, and return to work if you can’t work from home.
That’s one tweet.
Well we have always been allowed to exercise more than once per day
Have we? That certainly wasn’t my understanding. Admittedly the wording ‘one form of exercise a day’ is slightly ambiguous.
The SI is clear. You were allowed to go out "to take exercise". No mention of frequency. In England.
I think I just heard Ydoethur and every other secondary school teacher scream.
Here is my question.
I’m teaching from home.
If I go back into school, because they don’t have the necessary tech, I can’t do that.
So I might be able to teach 12 and 10.
What happens to 7, 8 and 9?
I kind of think you are missing the point of what he said.
The plan is that IF things are still improving then Reception, Year 1 and Year 6 might go back.
That was it.
He said something vague about giving Years 10 and 12 some face to face time with teachers but was clear that nothing else would happen until it was safe to do so.
So the short answer is that in all likelihood the earliest years 7,8 and 9 will go back is September.
And it is worth saying I think that no one in their right mind would criticise you or any other teacher for saying no if they feel they are being put at risk. But that was not the impression I got from the statement.
Could have been answered in a Tweet that, instead we had an empty and pointless announcement of nothing.
As long as I am unable to leave my home for more than exercise, or go back to work in an office, life has not changed.
Come on CHB, can't you for once, just once, take off the Party glasses?
Nothing has changed for me. Perhaps for other people - but not for me.
Then good yours didn't need to change then. You're able to go to the office now if you need to do so, and if you don't need to do so then what are you bothered about?
Can't see some of my family or my friends - and I feel as isolated and lonely as I was before.
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That’s one tweet.
He looks ok, though, which rather undermines this thread
Not knocking Boris. I liked it. But I fear people will see it as an amber light to do what they want.
In reality they will cause the opposite.
Will at least allow people to sunbathe in the park, and stop the ludicrous spectacle of people berating others for taking a local drive to open countryside.
You don’t need a degree in grievance studies from Brighton University to understand the R number.
The left never learn.
It's a bit of a shot in the dark but it doesn't look like anything announced will have a huge increase in the R, if that turns out to be the case it will seem like a good move, if not we revert and people have their answer as to why we can't end the current lockdown measures.
July for pubs reopening though. 😢
Scrap devolution?
It's in the nature of devolution that dissolved authorities may take different approach.
How does that work?
People are fantastically dumb.
I'm guessing you don't mix much with them ...
Starmer straight on to the public transport thing - ‘how can they get to work tomorrow morning?’
We can now sunbathe or rest in parks (hurrah, its an obvious change), and we can clearly drive to a place of exercise. And people on incoming flights will be quarantined.
Those seem to be the changes possibly with more on the never never.
Hong Kong. 7.5 million people as densely populated as anywhere on the planet. Compulsory face masks. 5 deaths.
It's blindingly obvious that workers aren't going to be expected to arrange new travel plans by tomorrow morning.
This is cheap, childish criticism for the sake of it.
And I say that as somebody who has not exactly been supportive of Sturgeon’s approach today.
A lecture of 160 now becomes only suitable for tutorial groups.
A smaller room of 24 seats now takes 3 students.
Practicals are a whole different kettle of boiled fish.
I thought obvious, but given this weekend has seen some of the most bone posting since 1 minute before the exit poll results.
Not clever - like Brexit blocking lawyer Sir Keith.
"And from this Wednesday, we want to encourage people to take more and even unlimited amounts of outdoor exercise.
You can sit in the sun in your local park, you can drive to other destinations, you can even play sports but only with members of your own household."
So everyone who goes to Brum by train for non-office work is now expected to drive.
Tomorrow, I shall look for a queue that goes past my front door to Stafford.
Scrub that, I think I already know the answer
I hope everyone is ready for the second wave.
By the end of June it’s just assemblies (not going to happen), prizegiving (not going to happen), sports days (not going to happen) and concerts (not going to happen) anyway.
Quite embarrassing, really. If they are this confused over education it makes you question everything else. If they just want to let them see their mates they should have just said that.
Can we have a daily graph of @MarqueeMark 's blood pressure
with only 16,000 or whatever it is getting infected a day and R at or near 1, we are not going to any closer to 'heard immunity' any time soon, there for, R is not going to drop in any meaning full way, so we are now stuck at this level, until, we have a vaccine, (maybe that should be if we ever get a vaccine)
Very little of substance announced - I suspect there may be more tomorrow in parliament.
For me tribal politics is one of the saddest and most childish traits there is, and some of you on here need to grow up.
I do not believe that is a sustainable position. She will need to come in line with Boris very quickly.
I already had the tech. And a fall back.
The plan is that IF things are still improving then Reception, Year 1 and Year 6 might go back.
That was it.
He said something vague about giving Years 10 and 12 some face to face time with teachers but was clear that nothing else would happen until it was safe to do so.
So the short answer is that in all likelihood the earliest years 7,8 and 9 will go back is September.
And it is worth saying I think that no one in their right mind would criticise you or any other teacher for saying no if they feel they are being put at risk. But that was not the impression I got from the statement.
Anyway, office workers form the bulk of people on peak time trains, we aren't going back to the office for a pretty long time.
Any idiot would realise companies aren't just going to be expecting to see their employees at 9am tomorrow morning.
It's either childish by Starmer or he is very, very stupid indeed.
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