I think the debate today has shown that people who say 'treat us like adults', can't be treated by adults. A practical change that is coming for me is my office has been redesigned to reduce the number of desks to allow distancing. In my area we're going from 18 desks to 3. Most people who can work from home will continue to do so, but those who have been struggling with IT or live in shared homes that are difficult to work in now have a different option. This is now not a blanket 'stay home', nuance is needed. Unfortunately some people can't cope with that.
Interested how they got from 18 desks to 3? Thats a bigger reduction than would seem needed to be 2m apart?
we're finding that it all transforms as more than the square. So 2m apart in a lecture theatre knocks out 8 seats per student.
I was not a good university student but are lecture theatres actually needed any more? Cant those be delivered remotely and more time given to teacher-student contact in smaller groups?
Saves a whole load of time for lecturers as it can be re-used for multiple courses, allows students choice of when to do the lecture and saves on space too.
Interaction during a lecture helps a lot with the learning process.
It must be getting close to 7 pm. I can almost scent the aroma of bulls***.
Lockdown doesn't mean you musn't flush.
I live in the country and we have cattle in the field behind the house so I am used to it. For some strange reason the aroma radiates from the TV whenever a Minister is on.
I think the debate today has shown that people who say 'treat us like adults', can't be treated by adults. A practical change that is coming for me is my office has been redesigned to reduce the number of desks to allow distancing. In my area we're going from 18 desks to 3. Most people who can work from home will continue to do so, but those who have been struggling with IT or live in shared homes that are difficult to work in now have a different option. This is now not a blanket 'stay home', nuance is needed. Unfortunately some people can't cope with that.
Interested how they got from 18 desks to 3? Thats a bigger reduction than would seem needed to be 2m apart?
we're finding that it all transforms as more than the square. So 2m apart in a lecture theatre knocks out 8 seats per student.
I was not a good university student but are lecture theatres actually needed any more? Cant those be delivered remotely and more time given to teacher-student contact in smaller groups?
Saves a whole load of time for lecturers as it can be re-used for multiple courses, allows students choice of when to do the lecture and saves on space too.
Interaction during a lecture helps a lot with the learning process.
But if there are 30 people attending, how many are going to actually interact in a meaningful way in an hours lecture? The lecturer plus 2 or 3 student? Over half the group wont say anything all year in that size of lecture?
I think the debate today has shown that people who say 'treat us like adults', can't be treated by adults. A practical change that is coming for me is my office has been redesigned to reduce the number of desks to allow distancing. In my area we're going from 18 desks to 3. Most people who can work from home will continue to do so, but those who have been struggling with IT or live in shared homes that are difficult to work in now have a different option. This is now not a blanket 'stay home', nuance is needed. Unfortunately some people can't cope with that.
Interested how they got from 18 desks to 3? Thats a bigger reduction than would seem needed to be 2m apart?
we're finding that it all transforms as more than the square. So 2m apart in a lecture theatre knocks out 8 seats per student.
I was not a good university student but are lecture theatres actually needed any more? Cant those be delivered remotely and more time given to teacher-student contact in smaller groups?
Saves a whole load of time for lecturers as it can be re-used for multiple courses, allows students choice of when to do the lecture and saves on space too.
Interaction during a lecture helps a lot with the learning process.
But if there are 30 people attending, how many are going to actually interact in a meaningful way in an hours lecture? The lecturer plus 2 or 3 student? Over half the group wont say anything all year in that size of lecture?
Quizzes with clickers, group activities/discussion etc. The old format of a lecturer just reeling off slide after slide is dying.
According to the simply approximated formula that R0 = exp(γ⋅SI)
γ as computed earlier was -0.05 (r^2 of 0.98 based on deaths) and the SI they worked out in the paper as 7.5 days, and with the serial interval of 7.5 days, and assuming english hospital deaths are homogenous, that yields an overall Rt for the UK of 0.68 since lockdown to approx 25 days ago.
I think the debate today has shown that people who say 'treat us like adults', can't be treated by adults. A practical change that is coming for me is my office has been redesigned to reduce the number of desks to allow distancing. In my area we're going from 18 desks to 3. Most people who can work from home will continue to do so, but those who have been struggling with IT or live in shared homes that are difficult to work in now have a different option. This is now not a blanket 'stay home', nuance is needed. Unfortunately some people can't cope with that.
Interested how they got from 18 desks to 3? Thats a bigger reduction than would seem needed to be 2m apart?
we're finding that it all transforms as more than the square. So 2m apart in a lecture theatre knocks out 8 seats per student.
I was not a good university student but are lecture theatres actually needed any more? Cant those be delivered remotely and more time given to teacher-student contact in smaller groups?
Saves a whole load of time for lecturers as it can be re-used for multiple courses, allows students choice of when to do the lecture and saves on space too.
Interaction during a lecture helps a lot with the learning process.
But if there are 30 people attending, how many are going to actually interact in a meaningful way in an hours lecture? The lecturer plus 2 or 3 student? Over half the group wont say anything all year in that size of lecture?
Quizzes with clickers, group activities/discussion etc. The old format of a lecturer just reeling off slide after slide is dying.
Good - along with alcohol it was the main reason I wasnt a good university student!
I think the debate today has shown that people who say 'treat us like adults', can't be treated by adults. A practical change that is coming for me is my office has been redesigned to reduce the number of desks to allow distancing. In my area we're going from 18 desks to 3. Most people who can work from home will continue to do so, but those who have been struggling with IT or live in shared homes that are difficult to work in now have a different option. This is now not a blanket 'stay home', nuance is needed. Unfortunately some people can't cope with that.
Interested how they got from 18 desks to 3? Thats a bigger reduction than would seem needed to be 2m apart?
we're finding that it all transforms as more than the square. So 2m apart in a lecture theatre knocks out 8 seats per student.
I was not a good university student but are lecture theatres actually needed any more? Cant those be delivered remotely and more time given to teacher-student contact in smaller groups?
Saves a whole load of time for lecturers as it can be re-used for multiple courses, allows students choice of when to do the lecture and saves on space too.
Interaction during a lecture helps a lot with the learning process.
But if there are 30 people attending, how many are going to actually interact in a meaningful way in an hours lecture? The lecturer plus 2 or 3 student? Over half the group wont say anything all year in that size of lecture?
It really does depend on the style of the lecture. We've moved on a lot from a lecture consisting of a lecturer writing on the board, and the students trying to keep pace with the getting it all down on paper.
John Rentoul who had to shamefacedly admit that English PPE companies had made garbled and conflicting statements about only supplying England? Cast iron, solid source on such matters.
John Rentoul who had to shamefacedly admit that English PPE companies had made garbled and conflicting statements about only supplying England? Cast iron, solid source on such matters.
More Nat Onal grievanceology.....
I've no wish to set you Natonanists off again but you should probably have a word with Johnny about his grievanceology.
You still think PHE* strategic stocks should have been sent to Scotland?
Entitled, much?
*E = "England"
You can hardly complain about unreliable journalists, then post one in your defence!
Question does such I think as Public Health Scotland or equivalent exist? and if it does, does it report to the a) Scottish Government or b) Public Health England
As the answer to the first question is Yes, and the answer to the supplicant question is a, why was Public Health England supposed to be supplying PHS rather than PHE's own regions.
Health is devolved. Power, money and responsibility lie in Edinburgh. But some prefer to evade responsibility and blame England "Westminster" when things go wrong in Scotland.
Westminster is not responsible for Scottish Health, Education or Policing, for example.
Not quite, Edinburgh is responsible for Health, Education and Policing up to the point when the questions get awkward then things move on to attacking Westminster and the need for independence.
What gets me is that 45% of the population vote SNP, mind you the other candidates are probably worse.
In the community its probably comfortably below 1, in Hospitals and most of all Care Homes its probably close to or above 1 - so unless both of those are got and kept under control it risks spilling back out into the community and a second peak.
Scotland and Wales have a Care Home problem (or possibly know they have one, England's is either improving or out of control under the radar) that so far may not yet be under control.
And if its like the Spanish flu, the second wave went after the young and healthy.
If only the government knew its Rs from its elbows.
I think the debate today has shown that people who say 'treat us like adults', can't be treated by adults. A practical change that is coming for me is my office has been redesigned to reduce the number of desks to allow distancing. In my area we're going from 18 desks to 3. Most people who can work from home will continue to do so, but those who have been struggling with IT or live in shared homes that are difficult to work in now have a different option. This is now not a blanket 'stay home', nuance is needed. Unfortunately some people can't cope with that.
Interested how they got from 18 desks to 3? Thats a bigger reduction than would seem needed to be 2m apart?
we're finding that it all transforms as more than the square. So 2m apart in a lecture theatre knocks out 8 seats per student.
I was not a good university student but are lecture theatres actually needed any more? Cant those be delivered remotely and more time given to teacher-student contact in smaller groups?
Saves a whole load of time for lecturers as it can be re-used for multiple courses, allows students choice of when to do the lecture and saves on space too.
Interaction during a lecture helps a lot with the learning process.
I must have missed that bit. Most of my lectures just involved copying notes from the OHP.
They'd better update the SI if we can go out. I know he thinks that "what I say" is the law, but it isn't. Would be unfortunate if people got lifted for doing what he said...
I think the debate today has shown that people who say 'treat us like adults', can't be treated by adults. A practical change that is coming for me is my office has been redesigned to reduce the number of desks to allow distancing. In my area we're going from 18 desks to 3. Most people who can work from home will continue to do so, but those who have been struggling with IT or live in shared homes that are difficult to work in now have a different option. This is now not a blanket 'stay home', nuance is needed. Unfortunately some people can't cope with that.
Interested how they got from 18 desks to 3? Thats a bigger reduction than would seem needed to be 2m apart?
we're finding that it all transforms as more than the square. So 2m apart in a lecture theatre knocks out 8 seats per student.
I was not a good university student but are lecture theatres actually needed any more? Cant those be delivered remotely and more time given to teacher-student contact in smaller groups?
Saves a whole load of time for lecturers as it can be re-used for multiple courses, allows students choice of when to do the lecture and saves on space too.
Interaction during a lecture helps a lot with the learning process.
I must have missed that bit. Most of my lectures just involved copying notes from the OHP.
Yeah, that is how it was done for me, too. But times are changing!
It must be getting close to 7 pm. I can almost scent the aroma of bulls***.
If all that`s announced is a reiteration of what we are supposed to be doing anyway + garden centres I`m not going to be happy.
What would make you happy?
Visits to family so I can visit my dad who is elderly and home on his own 20 miles from me. Minimum requirement. Plus a pathway to ease us out of lockdown and an end date for financial support.
I think the debate today has shown that people who say 'treat us like adults', can't be treated by adults. A practical change that is coming for me is my office has been redesigned to reduce the number of desks to allow distancing. In my area we're going from 18 desks to 3. Most people who can work from home will continue to do so, but those who have been struggling with IT or live in shared homes that are difficult to work in now have a different option. This is now not a blanket 'stay home', nuance is needed. Unfortunately some people can't cope with that.
Interested how they got from 18 desks to 3? Thats a bigger reduction than would seem needed to be 2m apart?
we're finding that it all transforms as more than the square. So 2m apart in a lecture theatre knocks out 8 seats per student.
I was not a good university student but are lecture theatres actually needed any more? Cant those be delivered remotely and more time given to teacher-student contact in smaller groups?
Saves a whole load of time for lecturers as it can be re-used for multiple courses, allows students choice of when to do the lecture and saves on space too.
Most importantly its easier to learn when actually interacting rather than just listening.
Almost all of the suggestions in your post are being considered but it is very naive to think lectures have no place. Very naive.
There are also significant issues with online only delivery that I think are generally under-rated. We do get to know our students in a lecture delivery and they get to know you.
16,000 cases each day. Beth has been told by a government source.
That fits with a crude calculation I did: couple of studies a while back showed mass testing catches ~45% of those with symptoms, then maybe double that for asymptomatic. On today's figures, that makes for 18k, but tests are a few days later than infections.
I think the debate today has shown that people who say 'treat us like adults', can't be treated by adults. A practical change that is coming for me is my office has been redesigned to reduce the number of desks to allow distancing. In my area we're going from 18 desks to 3. Most people who can work from home will continue to do so, but those who have been struggling with IT or live in shared homes that are difficult to work in now have a different option. This is now not a blanket 'stay home', nuance is needed. Unfortunately some people can't cope with that.
Interested how they got from 18 desks to 3? Thats a bigger reduction than would seem needed to be 2m apart?
we're finding that it all transforms as more than the square. So 2m apart in a lecture theatre knocks out 8 seats per student.
I was not a good university student but are lecture theatres actually needed any more? Cant those be delivered remotely and more time given to teacher-student contact in smaller groups?
Saves a whole load of time for lecturers as it can be re-used for multiple courses, allows students choice of when to do the lecture and saves on space too.
Interaction during a lecture helps a lot with the learning process.
But if there are 30 people attending, how many are going to actually interact in a meaningful way in an hours lecture? The lecturer plus 2 or 3 student? Over half the group wont say anything all year in that size of lecture?
It really does depend on the style of the lecture. We've moved on a lot from a lecture consisting of a lecturer writing on the board, and the students trying to keep pace with the getting it all down on paper.
All aboard the WELL QUITE roadshow.
and there are wonderful tools to facilitate interaction and engagement.
They'd better update the SI if we can go out. I know he thinks that "what I say" is the law, but it isn't. Would be unfortunate if people got lifted for doing what he said...
Exactly. That's the key. If the SI doesn't change it's all guff.
I think the debate today has shown that people who say 'treat us like adults', can't be treated by adults. A practical change that is coming for me is my office has been redesigned to reduce the number of desks to allow distancing. In my area we're going from 18 desks to 3. Most people who can work from home will continue to do so, but those who have been struggling with IT or live in shared homes that are difficult to work in now have a different option. This is now not a blanket 'stay home', nuance is needed. Unfortunately some people can't cope with that.
Interested how they got from 18 desks to 3? Thats a bigger reduction than would seem needed to be 2m apart?
we're finding that it all transforms as more than the square. So 2m apart in a lecture theatre knocks out 8 seats per student.
I was not a good university student but are lecture theatres actually needed any more? Cant those be delivered remotely and more time given to teacher-student contact in smaller groups?
Saves a whole load of time for lecturers as it can be re-used for multiple courses, allows students choice of when to do the lecture and saves on space too.
Interaction during a lecture helps a lot with the learning process.
But if there are 30 people attending, how many are going to actually interact in a meaningful way in an hours lecture? The lecturer plus 2 or 3 student? Over half the group wont say anything all year in that size of lecture?
Quizzes with clickers, group activities/discussion etc. The old format of a lecturer just reeling off slide after slide is dying.
They'd better update the SI if we can go out. I know he thinks that "what I say" is the law, but it isn't. Would be unfortunate if people got lifted for doing what he said...
Exactly. That's the key. If the SI doesn't change it's all guff.
Suggests it will have been changed by end of Tuesday if we can drive places and face more fines
They'd better update the SI if we can go out. I know he thinks that "what I say" is the law, but it isn't. Would be unfortunate if people got lifted for doing what he said...
Exactly. That's the key. If the SI doesn't change it's all guff.
Suggests it will have been changed by end of Tuesday if we can drive places and face more fines
It was the "with members of your household". Did it apply to all preceding activities?
So you can sunbathe and play sports with your family and should go to work if you cannot WFH and work in construction, other than that a fuss about nothing and lockdown stays and no changes.
Simply sets out future steps if the public comply with the rules and quarantine for foreign visitors
So you can sunbathe and play sports with your family and should go to work if you cannot WFH and work in construction, other than that a fuss about nothing and lockdown stays and no changes.
Simply sets out future steps if the public comply with the rules and quarantine for foreign visitors
Good job but pretty intellectual and probably way above most people's heads I fear. So the net take may be a muddled belief that you can sort-of end lockdown (which isn't exactly what he said).
So you can sunbathe and play sports with your family and should go to work if you cannot WFH and work in construction, other than that a fuss about nothing and lockdown stays and no changes.
Simply sets out future steps if the public comply with the rules and quarantine for foreign visitors
Agreed
Schools not to open until June, pubs until July at the earliest
Good job but pretty intellectual and probably way above most people's heads I fear. So the net take may be a muddled belief that you can sort-of end lockdown (which isn't exactly what he said).
Ridiculous that they had to shut anyway. Best not open the club house but providing people keep their social distancing it's always been fine. Tennis should be okay too.
What a lot of vacuous rubbish. That could all have been said in a tweet.
That's rubbish, twitter tells you that people are not responsible enough or smart enough to understand the slogan or taking any form of personal resonsibility. It needed the excellent speech and explanation from Boris. That was pretty clear and the alert system is a great idea. If people don't understand 'stay alert' and the words that came with it they now have zero excuse after watching that.
Thought it was fine. It didn't r3ally say much we didn't already know, but remember most people don't follow things closely and a roadmap has been demanded.
The big one was if you cant work from home, you should go to work. Death Rigby said the government very worried that the lockdown was too successful when it came to things like construction sector.
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According to the simply approximated formula that R0 = exp(γ⋅SI)
γ as computed earlier was -0.05 (r^2 of 0.98 based on deaths) and the SI they worked out in the paper as 7.5 days, and with the serial interval of 7.5 days, and assuming english hospital deaths are homogenous, that yields an overall Rt for the UK of 0.68 since lockdown to approx 25 days ago.
Want it below 4k
What gets me is that 45% of the population vote SNP, mind you the other candidates are probably worse.
There are also significant issues with online only delivery that I think are generally under-rated. We do get to know our students in a lecture delivery and they get to know you.
and there are wonderful tools to facilitate interaction and engagement.
Fnarr.
https://twitter.com/emilysheffield/status/1259546445197303808
Simply sets out future steps if the public comply with the rules and quarantine for foreign visitors
Nothing has changed.
The Sun's front page story about pubs reopening tomorrow. Whoops...
I’m teaching from home.
If I go back into school, because they don’t have the necessary tech, I can’t do that.
So I might be able to teach 12 and 10.
What happens to 7, 8 and 9?
Let's see the detail in the plan tomorrow
I wait to see and read more detail
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-outbreak-faqs-what-you-can-and-cant-do/coronavirus-outbreak-faqs-what-you-can-and-cant-do
Football? Hmmm ... less so.
As long as I am unable to leave my home for more than exercise, or go back to work in an office, life has not changed.
Did he say what happens to furlough?
Just asking for my friend Beth
The big one was if you cant work from home, you should go to work. Death Rigby said the government very worried that the lockdown was too successful when it came to things like construction sector.