Categories
politicalbetting.com » Blog Archive » Today sees the worst set of front pages for the government sin
politicalbetting.com » Blog Archive » Today sees the worst set of front pages for the government since the crisis began
After a period when the government has been generally getting positive media coverage for its fight against the coronavirus all has changed this morning as can be seen.
0
This discussion has been closed.
Comments
If that number were to drift back up to 1 (and pre lockdown, it’s estimated at 2.6), the lockdown would take 30 weeks to be effective, not 12. modelling suggests.
Combine that with 10% of the workforce being off with suspect COVID19 (the figure in my Trust) and lack of staff testing, and we have a major source of onward transmission.
https://twitter.com/michaeljswalker/status/1245415339149705219?s=19
Things move so quickly that it is easy to forget that our government was not listening to the WHO.
Compare and contrast with the open access drive through testing that were part of how South Korea got it under control.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-southkorea-testing/over-100-countries-ask-south-korea-for-coronavirus-testing-help-official-idUSKBN21J51C
No, the bigger question is why we didn't shut ourselves off from the rest of the world at the beginning of February. We could have had an outcome like South Korea had we done that.
We won't be able to judge the lockdown for another week, at the very earliest.
"Recovered" cases not quarantined for 14 days after resolution of symptoms is another massive gap in our COVID19 plans. The World Health Organisation, what do they know? We are British and know better.
Sir Paul Nurse of Crick Institute on R4 implicitly criticising PHE for testing approach - ignoring many small labs able to test.
Unless you have people continually swapping house mates.
Remember the UK lockdown is pretty much solely a white collar one too.
Out of interest, in California is the WHO 14 day recommendation being followed?
This comment should send a shiver down any Conservative member's spine. It's the sort of remark which heralds defeat at the next election. The signature of all failing Governments.
Your assessment is also very optimistic. Yes, in theory, you might be correct but this virus is highly highly contagious. Every single item that comes through your door is a potential vector: all deliveries, all post, all packaging. Every time you venture out, whether for your daily exercise or to do shopping, is a risk. The bins you empty, the handles you touch. Everything.
There are still inadequate provision of PPE, in particular there are no long sleeved protective gowns, and there is inadequate testing. Both of these are due to supply issues rather than government intent.
Zero. We would have to be fucking lobotomized to run the government in response to the daily effluent pumped out by these 'journalists'.
Testing to what end ? What treatment will proved cases get over suspected cases ?
I'm finding the BBC very irritating. They have reverted to being Aunty BBC and at times are little more than a mouthpiece for the Gov't spin.
As Eadric posted in the night, it was social media who were onto this virus from the outset. The videos, the photos, the stories emanating out of Wuhan alerted us to the real disaster despite, not because of, the mainstream media. The reason that fake news spreads so readily online is because the truth does too.
Watcher from afar, all they look like achieving is sowing distrust among the populace that the advice to stay at home is the correct advice.
Truth must always out. It always will.
Similarly Johnson has built his appeal on populism, a flair for publicity and bashing the EU. Everyone knows he is totally incompetent but it hasn’t hindered him up to now.
I do not think this crisis will of itself damage the government. That’s especially true given many other countries are doing far worse. What might do for them is they will have to scale back on the populist splurging they promised elsewhere to foot the bill for it.
Some like it hot, my other half is not amongst those.
We should all be willing the government to succeed on this. We should all be applying our critical faculties to the policies and administrative steps it adopts to succeed. Right now, it looks to be stumbling.
And to say this comment heralds defeat at a GE 4 years away is your own hyperbole
Also what percentage of the country are still working? NHS, Supermarkets, Food production, Transportation and deliveries, emergency services, carers, etc - 5m perhaps?
https://twitter.com/drjameskent3/status/1245567843770470400?s=21
You need to take on board the professional and rational response to you from Foxy who is on the front line, unlike yourself who is losing it
It’s not like Mysticrose ever really had it.
And a case study in the damage our political journalists are causing to serious debate
Boris should employ a procurement czar, as Churchill did when he made Beaverbrook Minister of Production. It is surprising he has not already done so given Cummings's low opinion of government procurement and Boris's own biography of Churchill, which is no doubt compulsory reading for @ydoethur's history students.
They may have a degree in PPE or English but they just naturally know things about science. Not having to worry about picky details, they can see the important facts, being fearless seekers after truth. That's why they are chosen, along with their fellow celebrities to opine on virtually everything.
They are the ranter in the pub with a veneer of poshness.
How dare this government go with the experts? People who have no presentation skills. Amateurs!
.
Are you
I) Retired
ii) Unemployed
Iii) Furloughed at home
Iv) Working from home
V) Working away from your home
Vi) Working outside your house but in complete isolation (Farming for instance)
Test staff only.
Testing capacity 3/10
Explaining about testing capacity 1/10
PPE availabilty 2/10
Explaining about PPE availabilty 2/10
Ventilator availabilty 5/10 (we don't know yet if we will have enough or not, this could change to a 9 or 1)
Hospital bed capacity 10/10
gave them benefit of doubt early on and happy to follow the rules, but some excuses wearing a bit thin.
edited, knocked them down to 2 for PPE. that should have been top priority imo.
Patients admitted to hospital might have to make do with a clinical diagnosis - there's anyway evidence that a CT scan is more reliable (in those who have developed pneumonia) and certainly quicker than current tests.
It’s like a microcosm of health spending politics - quantum over quality.
Should boost morale...
However, this crisis requires constructive and effective criticism not a pack of unhappy ill informed journalists and media presenters as we are seeing at present attempting to undermine public trust in a government facing the worst crisis since the last war
It is not edifying and I am not sure it is even shared by the public
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-rise-of-the-bluffocracy
Or an opposing view:
https://inews.co.uk/opinion/comment/challenge-myth-bluffocracy-common-sense-264754
Before taking it back outside I left it by the thermostat to discover that what we thought was a frugal setting of ~16C was more accurately 20C.
I have more yarn for knitting more jumpers now.
Ah, my alpine jacket,..
A simper method of delivery, perhaps UBI which on PB has been described as blunt and expensive, may have been the way to have gone.
This is another rubbish talking point from you, just like the last one.
At the start of the crisis the government had problems with communication and was slow to react. Now the biggest problem is that reality does not live up to the rhetoric.
Despite successes in other areas, press releases on appropriate PPE, Tests and ventilator have simply not materialised on the ground and people are still at risk. The government I am sure are again doing their best, but they either need to revise their statements in the face of the new reality and ‘level with the British people’ or find a way to close the gap pronto. We are reaching the peak of the crisis.