Sex workers, driving instructors and masseurs have been ordered to stop work by the Dutch government as part of efforts to contain the coronavirus pandemic, reports James Crisp, Brussels Correspondent.
Amsterdam’s famous red light district, with its legal and regulated brothels, was shut on March 15 but escorts, who travel to meet clients, have been able to continue work.
Corbyn is just not capable of the right tone. It’s embarrassing.
His hatred of Tories over-rules everything. It is why these people would be a disaster in government.
And again compare to somebody like Ashworth, who clearly on friendly terms with a number of Tory colleagues, and thus for the most part managed to raise concerns without going OTT on the anti-government stuff.
Some good news; Eldest Granddaughter has been accepted on the Educational Psychologist course she's been trying to get onto for a couple of years. Taught PhD.
Some good news; Eldest Granddaughter has been accepted on the Educational Psychologist course she's been trying to get onto for a couple of years. Taught PhD.
Some good news; Eldest Granddaughter has been accepted on the Educational Psychologist course she's been trying to get onto for a couple of years. Taught PhD.
If it's 75% sensitive then 3 or 4 tests are needed per person really.
Yeah but one reason for the lower sensitivity will be the timing of when the test is done. Doing three of four swabs at the same time might not necessarily do anything. But doing it over two or three days might.
Specificity is less important in my view. We want the most sensitive test for front line workers. The most sensitive test currently is to self isolate for 14 days.
Hmm. It was maybe rather barbed. It wasn’t perhaps as bad as I expected from the comments here, I was expecting a highly personal attack on Johnson, which it wasn’t.
I think it’s fair enough for him to say he rejects any obituaries and intends to remain active, although Starmer probably groaned when he heard it. It was however a silly thing to say given the damage he has done to his causes.
It was ever thus with these rich twunts, not do as I do just do as I say.
A bad image for Nationalists attacking the heir to the throne when he is ill
Get up of your belly loser. If he had any principles or morals he would follow same guidance as the public , stay away from your 2nd , 3rd, 4th ......ad infinitum homes. Instead the arsehole flies to Scotland with an entourage spreading it all over the place.
It was ever thus with these rich twunts, not do as I do just do as I say.
A bad image for Nationalists attacking the heir to the throne when he is ill
Get up of your belly loser. If he had any principles or morals he would follow same guidance as the public , stay away from your 2nd , 3rd, 4th ......ad infinitum homes. Instead the arsehole flies to Scotland with an entourage spreading it all over the place.
Balmoral is a royal estate and he went there before it was confirmed he had the virus, quite possibly before he had symptoms either
Just seen from a friend in lockdown in Northern Italy that there appears to be a link being investigated between the case spikes in Bergamo in Italy and Valencia in Spain tied to a football match.
40,000 fans from Bergamo travelled to Milan for the Atalanta (Bergamo local team) vs Valencia football game on the 19 Feb. The spikes correlate with 14 days later.
She is a child so you try and give the benefit of the doubt but that is very poor form and I think will critically undermine her over the long term.
More likely this is yet another instance of public figures having many social media accounts (often maintained by third party agencies) and not realising they are not write-only and that they will be held responsible for comments added by anyone at all.
It was ever thus with these rich twunts, not do as I do just do as I say.
A bad image for Nationalists attacking the heir to the throne when he is ill
Get up of your belly loser. If he had any principles or morals he would follow same guidance as the public , stay away from your 2nd , 3rd, 4th ......ad infinitum homes. Instead the arsehole flies to Scotland with an entourage spreading it all over the place.
Balmoral is a royal estate and he went there before it was confirmed he had the virus, quite possibly before he had symptoms either
Actually technically I think it’s a private estate owned by the Queen, not a royal estate.
Just seen from a friend in lockdown in Northern Italy that there appears to be a link being investigated between the case spikes in Bergamo in Italy and Valencia in Spain tied to a football match.
40,000 fans from Bergamo travelled to Milan for the Atalanta (Bergamo local team) vs Valencia football game on the 19 Feb. The spikes correlate with 14 days later.
Compare and contrast the childish behaviour of Jezza, to the grown ups who used to run the Labour Party like Dougie Alexander.
Can we please have the grown-ups back in charge of a once great party.
I am quietly confident that if Starmer wins we will see that change. I still don't necessarily like or agree with the guy but he is at least an adult compared to Corbyn and his acolytes.
Totally I’ll watch it again later but he thanked him and then moved on.
His tone and attitude was, sadly, pathetic
Not at all
He has single handedly damaged the labour party more than anyone could imagine
You said "His tone and attitude was, sadly, pathetic"
Watch it again you are completely wrong IMO
John, he was a graceless knob.
I dont think he was. He thanked Johnson for his kind words and with a smile on his face said he was hoping to be on these benches fighting injustice for some time to come.
Totally I’ll watch it again later but he thanked him and then moved on.
His tone and attitude was, sadly, pathetic
Not at all
He has single handedly damaged the labour party more than anyone could imagine
You said "His tone and attitude was, sadly, pathetic"
Watch it again you are completely wrong IMO
John, he was a graceless knob.
I dont think he was. He thanked Johnson for his kind words and with a smile on his face said he was hoping to be on these benches fighting injustice for some time to come.
Whats wrong with that?
You missed the bit where he was suggesting Boris was gloating about his departure.
She is a child so you try and give the benefit of the doubt but that is very poor form and I think will critically undermine her over the long term.
More likely this is yet another instance of public figures having many social media accounts (often maintained by third party agencies) and not realising they are not write-only and that they will be held responsible for comments added by anyone at all.
Except that the XR posters on the trees in the Midlands said almost exactly the same thing: humans are the disease, corona is the cure
So it’s clearly a meme transmitting in XR circles, and it may have a fatality rate for their cause of 100%
It may but that is not to say it is genuine. It might be, or it might have been originally planted by one of those notorious Russian troll farms and then bounced around by a combination of troll bots and useful idiots. Given XR's attempts to stop buses and DLR trains, it is hard to say. Tbh the whole of XR might have been designed to discredit the wider cause.
Totally I’ll watch it again later but he thanked him and then moved on.
His tone and attitude was, sadly, pathetic
Not at all
He has single handedly damaged the labour party more than anyone could imagine
You said "His tone and attitude was, sadly, pathetic"
Watch it again you are completely wrong IMO
John, he was a graceless knob.
I dont think he was. He thanked Johnson for his kind words and with a smile on his face said he was hoping to be on these benches fighting injustice for some time to come.
Whats wrong with that?
the tone, the look on his face and the words themselves - apart from that he was fine
Spain is still less than two weeks past its lockdown tho, isn’t it? So we shouldn’t expect an improvement yet?
Total lockdown 17/3
They really should have cancelled the Woman's day marches
They are takintg a lot of stick for that. But to be honest the past -even the recent past- is another country given the immediate problems. No country has gotten everything right.
It really is a very fast moving situation. Yesterday I had a clinic this morning, today it was cancelled.
Also this AM, Mrs Foxy and I woke with an ominous cough. No temperature at present. Feeling OK , just not sure if it is Coronachondria or not. Having a day at home to see how things develop.
Stay safe Foxy (and Mrs Foxy) - there are other lurgies out there still - best wishes to you both
I am really not sure if it is anything or not, so doing my admin by phone and online as far as possible.
Testing would be great. Otherwise really in the dark.
Surely you can trace some ancestry back to the Royal family?
Not me, though I can to one of the regicides who signed the warrant
So patient zero passes it on to 3 people on day 1 etc etc
Day 10
3 to the power of 10=59,049
Day 12 = 531,444
Day 14 = 4,782,969
Stay isolated
I think that you need to allow that even with an r=3, the infected person is not infective themselves immediately. There is an incubation period of 4-10 days before they can infect others.
That would slow down spread by your model considerably.
To paraphrase Red Dwarf, all MPs have something to bring to this debate, but what Jeremy Corbyn should bring is silence. Fortunately he’s now sodding off to his allotment.
It was ever thus with these rich twunts, not do as I do just do as I say.
A bad image for Nationalists attacking the heir to the throne when he is ill
Get up of your belly loser. If he had any principles or morals he would follow same guidance as the public , stay away from your 2nd , 3rd, 4th ......ad infinitum homes. Instead the arsehole flies to Scotland with an entourage spreading it all over the place.
Balmoral is a royal estate and he went there before it was confirmed he had the virus, quite possibly before he had symptoms either
Actually technically I think it’s a private estate owned by the Queen, not a royal estate.
Balmoral and Sandringham are both owned by the royal family, unlike say Buckingham Palace and Windsor Castle which are owned by the crown estate to be crown residences and funded by public funds
To paraphrase Red Dwarf, all MPs have something to bring to this debate, but what Jeremy Corbyn should bring is silence. Fortunately he’s now sodding off to his allotment.
Is going to your allotment allowed under the rules? And as a 70+ year old, he really should be adhering to the even stricter rules of not ever going out for the next 12 weeks.
How come the Prince of Wales met the criteria for having a test? Is being Royal on the list?
Probably, yes (certainly being a senior royal). Same as being someone who might come into contact with senior govt members. This is not the time to risk infecting the people running the operation.
Is Prince Charles running the operation?
The Queen is socially distancing herself, what does her heir have to do with anything?
Realpolitik means he would qualify but there's surely little operational reason to do with it.
Orders in Council need to be signed by someone. That's why I was arguing earlier that William should be declared regent, as the most senior royal in a low-risk category.
Isn't he already a councillor of state?
Teach young George joined up writing quick.
Apparently a lot of American schools no longer teach joined-up writing as it is considered redundant in the age of texting and tweets.
ETA if you want to google it, the term is "cursive" which is American for joined-up writing, and "penmanship" means using a pen.
That is certainly true at ASL. we are teaching our daughter cursive at home
In my Northern Irish primary school we were taught using an Osmiroid Italic pen, which made it a bit more difficult.
I was taught italic handwriting with an Osmiroid pen by the Irish Christian Brothers. It is still basically italic but no longer with an Osmiroid pen. I was well trained.
I think the much more interesting parliamentary meeting today (much more informative than PMQs) was the evidence of Neil Ferguson to the select committee. I do hope that his modelling is correct as it would suggest that while this will be bad the NHS will just about manage to cope.
All I can say is thank goodness Corbyn is going. He cannot help himself. I understand having valid questions and scrutinising the government but my goodness, the tone was so off kilter I was amazed.
So patient zero passes it on to 3 people on day 1 etc etc
Day 10
3 to the power of 10=59,049
Day 12 = 531,444
Day 14 = 4,782,969
Stay isolated
It doesn't quite work that way as infected people come into contact with other infected people, especially as the rate of infection rises and specific social circles reach saturation faster than others.
Isn't she sick with the virus? If I had it, I wouldn't be too bothered what my FB is doing.
She’s all better now. Her father had it worse.
As Gideon says, she is a child so maybe this is excusable, but if I’d lost someone to this virus I would not appreciate the sentiment expressed here
she's 17
that's the age of majority in Sweden, so not a child.
Yes, I was being very generous. She’s old enough.
If she gets to lecture us on the environment, and we have to listen, then she has to own it when she gets it all wrong.
You don't 'have to listen', unless you're one of those right wing snowflakes who perceives the very existence of ideas and attention paid to them as an assault on their own raddled freedom.
I think the much more interesting parliamentary meeting today (much more informative than PMQs) was the evidence of Neil Ferguson to the select committee. I do hope that his modelling is correct as it would suggest that while this will be bad the NHS will just about manage to cope.
I am rather concerned by the claim only 10% of Londoners will get it. I just can't see how that is possible, given most countries talk about 50-60-70% of people getting it.
Even if he is talking about this "season" and the big number is total over the course of the disease, still, 10% seems incredibly low.
Spain is still less than two weeks past its lockdown tho, isn’t it? So we shouldn’t expect an improvement yet?
Total lockdown 17/3
They really should have cancelled the Woman's day marches
They are takintg a lot of stick for that. But to be honest the past -even the recent past- is another country given the immediate problems. No country has gotten everything right.
It really is a very fast moving situation. Yesterday I had a clinic this morning, today it was cancelled.
Also this AM, Mrs Foxy and I woke with an ominous cough. No temperature at present. Feeling OK , just not sure if it is Coronachondria or not. Having a day at home to see how things develop.
Stay safe Foxy (and Mrs Foxy) - there are other lurgies out there still - best wishes to you both
I am really not sure if it is anything or not, so doing my admin by phone and online as far as possible.
Testing would be great. Otherwise really in the dark.
Surely you can trace some ancestry back to the Royal family?
Not me, though I can to one of the regicides who signed the warrant
So patient zero passes it on to 3 people on day 1 etc etc
Day 10
3 to the power of 10=59,049
Day 12 = 531,444
Day 14 = 4,782,969
Stay isolated
I think that you need to allow that even with an r=3, the infected person is not infective themselves immediately. There is an incubation period of 4-10 days before they can infect others.
That would slow down spread by your model considerably.
Thats good news still once you start using to the power of mathematics even if its n-4 you still get eye watering numbers.
Lets hope self isolation reduces the transmission r number as well
Sounds like the Airbus consortium planning to bang out a licence built version of the Smith design is a winner. Some serious players involved (McClaren and GKN) who know a thing or two about manufacturing and presumably existing supply chains that could be leveraged.
Less sure about the clean sheet designs being pursued by the various vacuum cleaner manufacturers. Got to be worth a punt in these circumstances, provided the gvmt is brave enough to shortcut usual regulatory approvals process.
Dyson makes hoovers, G-tech makes hoovers. Don't see the difference.
I completely agree that the data from China has to be critically observed. Equally one needs to keep one’s critical faculties alive when considering other sources. Jennifer Zeng is a Sydney based Falun Gong practitioner who was sent to a labour camp by the CCP on 4 occasions. She was forced to seek asylum in Australia and has, understandably, published scathing books and articles about China. That being said, she does have a bit of an axe to grind, and is not reporting on the ground. She also describes Corona-19 as #CCPvirus.
I think the much more interesting parliamentary meeting today (much more informative than PMQs) was the evidence of Neil Ferguson to the select committee. I do hope that his modelling is correct as it would suggest that while this will be bad the NHS will just about manage to cope.
I am rather concerned by the claim only 10% of Londoners will get it. I just can't see how that is possible, given most countries talk about 50-60-70% of people getting it.
Even if he is talking about this "season" and the big number is total over the course of the disease, still, 10% seems incredibly low.
You only have to look at South Korea.....they have had a handle on this throughout, but their daily numbers still are ~100 new cases a day. China was literally out of control to zero in no time.
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Amsterdam’s famous red light district, with its legal and regulated brothels, was shut on March 15 but escorts, who travel to meet clients, have been able to continue work.
Seriously...........
And again compare to somebody like Ashworth, who clearly on friendly terms with a number of Tory colleagues, and thus for the most part managed to raise concerns without going OTT on the anti-government stuff.
Taught PhD.
Deepest sympathy to your family.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8150253/Police-India-beat-people-submission-coronavirus-lockdown-bites.html
You do know BC/Canada is in crisis and putting in place the same restrictions
Specificity is less important in my view. We want the most sensitive test for front line workers. The most sensitive test currently is to self isolate for 14 days.
I think it’s fair enough for him to say he rejects any obituaries and intends to remain active, although Starmer probably groaned when he heard it. It was however a silly thing to say given the damage he has done to his causes.
So sorry to hear of your loss. Sincere condolences.
British OAP dies after 'only leaving house once a week for food'
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/coronavirus-british-oap-dies-after-21750387
Ah, no, hold on, that gives off lots of CO2.
40,000 fans from Bergamo travelled to Milan for the Atalanta (Bergamo local team) vs Valencia football game on the 19 Feb. The spikes correlate with 14 days later.
https://www.worldsoccer.com/features/did-atalanta-v-valencia-contribute-to-the-coronavirus-409342
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8151117/Woman-21-no-pre-existing-conditions-dies-coronavirus-family-reveal-pay-tribute.html
Watch it again you are completely wrong IMO
It's obviously of little importance, but I do feel sad for Atalanta as they are a fantastic story.
that's the age of majority in Sweden, so not a child.
https://twitter.com/typesfast/status/1242490035707895808
Whats wrong with that?
Dutch sex workers told to down tools
Too long surely. Have backed both for small sums.
That would slow down spread by your model considerably.
Bit of dairy fat might do wonders for making you a less grumpy tosspot. Living on carby plant-based glucose is going to exaggerate mood swings.
Even if he is talking about this "season" and the big number is total over the course of the disease, still, 10% seems incredibly low.
Lets hope self isolation reduces the transmission r number as well
Thoughts with you and your family
Whatever happened in that video is not evidence of COVID19.