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  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 81,947
    I think the supermarkets have probably started to get their act together now. I guess it has taken time to ramp up to Christmas shopping levels across the supply chain.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 42,093
    DavidL said:

    Stunningly success supermarket raid by my better half today. Toilet rolls, kitchen rolls, paracetamol, bread, even some pasta. Some things low in stock but most not out. Have we seen the worst of the panic buying?

    I think we have. Or at least soon will. People will mellow out a bit and adjust to the new normal.

    However, defer that conclusion until later. I am out of porridge and thus need to sally forth.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 122,858
    DavidL said:

    HYUFD said:

    US $1.7 trillion rescue package fails in the Senate, with only 47 Senators voting in favour rather than the 60 required
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/collins-blasts-democrats-for-blocking-coronavirus-stimulus-plan-says-theyre-playing-with-fire

    For god's sake. Are they all crazy?
    Mind you the 2008 bailout was voted down by the House first time too
  • EndillionEndillion Posts: 4,976
    eadric said:

    Endillion said:

    eadric said:

    kamski said:

    eadric said:

    kamski said:

    eadric said:

    What are the political ramifications of a global Depression? There are so many the mind blanks at the glare.

    Germany is handling Coronavirus better than most, but they are now anticipating a brutal contraction of 10-20% GDP in a year

    It could be worse, therefore, in America and China - and France, Britain, Italy.

    The last Depression led to Nazism and a world war.

    I’m going to have a cup of tea.

    Glad to see you've moved on from "25% of you are going to die!" to there's going to be a global depression.

    Keep drinking the tea, it seems to be making you a lot more chipper.
    You’re the dribbling idiot who actually said this virus was useful, as it was a good warning for when the REALLY bad virus came.

    THE REALLY BAD ONE

    When are you expecting the REALLY bad virus? I’d like to prepare, tbh
    Hopefully we will learn the lessons from this pandemic and be better prepared for the next one. This will not be helped by idiots like you screaming that a quarter of people are going to die of this one.

    Of course IF you are right and 25% of the population dies, then a 20% contraction would be a rise in GDP per capita, so it's win-win I suppose.
    But when? When is the REALLY bad virus coming? You Know, the virus which will REALLY be nasty, unlike this one? Do you have a timescale? Because I’d like to get loo roll for the REALLY serious disease, as against this minor sniffle.

    You utter, utter twit.
    This was posted on this site by someone called "eadric" on February 3:

    Yep. Having been either housebound or bedridden for a week I have done a lot of thinking about this

    It is inevitable that one day a virus like this will cross the barrier, and be genuinely fucking terrible and lethal - 30, 40% mortality - rather than the relatively kindly SARS and corona that we have experienced to date.

    What will that do to us? How would we cope?

    I also now realize that health experts and microbiologists and epidemiologists must already be anticipating this, hence their reaction to my possible case, which is a mixture of concern, chaos, denial, and honest but anxious ignorance

    I could be just another man flu. Or Typhoid Mary


    https://politicalbetting.vanillacommunity.com/discussion/comment/2701841#Comment_2701841
    Hahaha!

    Thank you

    LOOK AT THE DATE ON THAT

    FEBRUARY 3

    Jesus. That was a genius call. I felt it coming.
    I thought my post spoke for itself, but apparently it didn't.

    To be clear:
    - you are "guilty" of the same thing you're now "accusing" others of (saying this virus is a wake up call for the much worse one that's surely coming)
    - you described Covid-19 as "kindly", months after the outbreak started and nearly two weeks after Wuhan was placed under quarantine
  • FloaterFloater Posts: 14,207
    Scotland health official speaking truth to power
  • kamskikamski Posts: 5,189
    eadric said:

    DougSeal said:

    eadric said:

    kamski said:

    eadric said:

    What are the political ramifications of a global Depression? There are so many the mind blanks at the glare.

    Germany is handling Coronavirus better than most, but they are now anticipating a brutal contraction of 10-20% GDP in a year

    It could be worse, therefore, in America and China - and France, Britain, Italy.

    The last Depression led to Nazism and a world war.

    I’m going to have a cup of tea.

    Glad to see you've moved on from "25% of you are going to die!" to there's going to be a global depression.

    Keep drinking the tea, it seems to be making you a lot more chipper.
    You’re the dribbling idiot who actually said this virus was useful, as it was a good warning for when the REALLY bad virus came.

    THE REALLY BAD ONE

    When are you expecting the REALLY bad virus? I’d like to prepare, tbh
    I keep saying this but I’ll say it again. This is a forum that is devoted to predicting events. However predicting the Coronavirus is something I would urge everyone, doomsdayers and just-a-bad-fluers alike, to dial back a bit. This isn’t an election or a horse race. Spreading panic, even if your predictions turn out to be right (Eadric!) is harmful. Spreading false hope, or downplaying the seriousness of this outbreak (Barnsean!), is harmful. There are no betting markets on this so far as I am aware - so it is pointless anyway.
    It’s not ‘spreading panic’ to point out that a respected German economic institute is predicting a possible severe contraction in German GDP.

    I am offering useful information which is highly relevant to political forecasting.
    Hence my approval of that post. But which respected institute is predicting that between a tenth and a quarter of us are going to die of Coronavirus like you did in another post?

    And honestly, why stop at a quarter for the upper limit, why not between eight and 9 tenths of us dying of it? 25% is a bit half-hearted, if you're going to pick a big number our of your arse, why not make it properly big?
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,000

    First of all, Happy Birthday, Pb.com!

    Secondly, catching up on the overnight thread, I see that there is still a bit of confusion on how exactly we Germans are cheating and fiddling the numbers, so I'd like to take the opportunity and try to sort it out for you.

    Dedicated Lexiteers have explained for many decades how the Fourth Reich is a neo-liberal, hyper-capitalist paradise where the corporate vultures are allowed, and even encouraged, to exploit the 'workers'.

    Meanwhile, properly patriotic Brexiteers have explained for many decades how the Fourth Reich is a culturally marxist, hyper-trotskyite abomination where good, honest, buccaneering businesspeople suffer so immensely under the yoke of the socialist workers' paradise.

    While simpler minds may still argue which opinion is the correct one, those more capable of holistic thinking will long have recognised that both these sets of perfectly valid assessments are completely accurate at the exact same time.

    So, the one racing certainty we can safely take away from the above deliberations is that contemporary Germany is, in fact, a paradise. Of one sort or another. As close to heaven on earth as you can ever possibly get.

    Great country. Greatest country in the world.
    Amazing, fantastic, tremendous.
    And this undeniable fact may then go a long way in explaining why the Hun is somewhat reluctant to shed this mortal coil.

    So, once again, this time in German:
    "Herzlichen Glückwunsch, Pb.com!"

    I see you're rightly reminding us that Trump is of German descent... :smile:
  • DavidL said:

    Stunningly success supermarket raid by my better half today. Toilet rolls, kitchen rolls, paracetamol, bread, even some pasta. Some things low in stock but most not out. Have we seen the worst of the panic buying?

    Wait until people get their March monthly pay.
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758

    My daughter has tested positive today. She was cleaning for us last Wednesday and brought us some milk on Saturday.

    This is as scary as the Tunisian gunman

    Hope all goes well
  • DougSealDougSeal Posts: 12,541
    eadric said:

    DougSeal said:

    eadric said:

    kamski said:

    eadric said:

    What are the political ramifications of a global Depression? There are so many the mind blanks at the glare.

    Germany is handling Coronavirus better than most, but they are now anticipating a brutal contraction of 10-20% GDP in a year

    It could be worse, therefore, in America and China - and France, Britain, Italy.

    The last Depression led to Nazism and a world war.

    I’m going to have a cup of tea.

    Glad to see you've moved on from "25% of you are going to die!" to there's going to be a global depression.

    Keep drinking the tea, it seems to be making you a lot more chipper.
    You’re the dribbling idiot who actually said this virus was useful, as it was a good warning for when the REALLY bad virus came.

    THE REALLY BAD ONE

    When are you expecting the REALLY bad virus? I’d like to prepare, tbh
    I keep saying this but I’ll say it again. This is a forum that is devoted to predicting events. However predicting the Coronavirus is something I would urge everyone, doomsdayers and just-a-bad-fluers alike, to dial back a bit. This isn’t an election or a horse race. Spreading panic, even if your predictions turn out to be right (Eadric!) is harmful. Spreading false hope, or downplaying the seriousness of this outbreak (Barnsean!), is harmful. There are no betting markets on this so far as I am aware - so it is pointless anyway.
    It’s not ‘spreading panic’ to point out that a respected German economic institute is predicting a possible severe contraction in German GDP.

    I am offering useful information which is highly relevant to political forecasting.
    It was more the possible world war in that specific post that concerned me.
  • YorkcityYorkcity Posts: 4,382
    edited March 2020

    On gambling, although no sport to bet on apparently online poker is seeing a massive uptick in traffic (and I presume the casino games are as well).

    There was some Irish horse racing last weekend.
    Also some greyhound racing .
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,653

    I think the supermarkets have probably started to get their act together now. I guess it has taken time to ramp up to Christmas shopping levels across the supply chain.

    Our 60 item Sainsburys delivery has 12 not availables but substitutes for 11 of the 12.

    Only item we cant have at all is eggs.

    10/10 to Sainsburys assuming no last minute hitch
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,000
    eadric said:

    Endillion said:

    eadric said:

    kamski said:

    eadric said:

    kamski said:

    eadric said:

    What are the political ramifications of a global Depression? There are so many the mind blanks at the glare.

    Germany is handling Coronavirus better than most, but they are now anticipating a brutal contraction of 10-20% GDP in a year

    It could be worse, therefore, in America and China - and France, Britain, Italy.

    The last Depression led to Nazism and a world war.

    I’m going to have a cup of tea.

    Glad to see you've moved on from "25% of you are going to die!" to there's going to be a global depression.

    Keep drinking the tea, it seems to be making you a lot more chipper.
    You’re the dribbling idiot who actually said this virus was useful, as it was a good warning for when the REALLY bad virus came.

    THE REALLY BAD ONE

    When are you expecting the REALLY bad virus? I’d like to prepare, tbh
    Hopefully we will learn the lessons from this pandemic and be better prepared for the next one. This will not be helped by idiots like you screaming that a quarter of people are going to die of this one.

    Of course IF you are right and 25% of the population dies, then a 20% contraction would be a rise in GDP per capita, so it's win-win I suppose.
    But when? When is the REALLY bad virus coming? You Know, the virus which will REALLY be nasty, unlike this one? Do you have a timescale? Because I’d like to get loo roll for the REALLY serious disease, as against this minor sniffle.

    You utter, utter twit.
    This was posted on this site by someone called "eadric" on February 3:

    Yep. Having been either housebound or bedridden for a week I have done a lot of thinking about this

    It is inevitable that one day a virus like this will cross the barrier, and be genuinely fucking terrible and lethal - 30, 40% mortality - rather than the relatively kindly SARS and corona that we have experienced to date.

    What will that do to us? How would we cope?

    I also now realize that health experts and microbiologists and epidemiologists must already be anticipating this, hence their reaction to my possible case, which is a mixture of concern, chaos, denial, and honest but anxious ignorance

    I could be just another man flu. Or Typhoid Mary


    https://politicalbetting.vanillacommunity.com/discussion/comment/2701841#Comment_2701841
    Hahaha!

    Thank you

    LOOK AT THE DATE ON THAT

    FEBRUARY 3

    Jesus. That was a genius call. I felt it coming.
    You trying to tell us you were patient zero for the UK ?
    So it's all your fault...
  • DougSealDougSeal Posts: 12,541
    edited March 2020
    4 new deaths and 71 new cases in Wales according to Public Health Wales. Was 7 and 71 yesterday.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 122,858
    eadric said:

    OT we finally got a glimmer of an admission from Abe that the Olympics might need to be postponed. This comes after a couple of teams and I think the Canadian olympic association or whatever made public requests to postpone.

    I don't *think* I believe the conspiracy theories about Japan deliberately holding back covid19 testing in the hope of keeping the Olympics going but it would be really nice not to have to worry about it.

    If anyone has any contacts with anyone in British olympic teams or the related organizations it would be really helpful if a few more people could stick their nails in the coffin...

    The aussies are also saying they won’t go. The olympics won’t happen. It’s so sad for Japan, but Coronavirus is worse.

    Better to accept it now. Athletes are isolating, not training.
    The Olympics are not due until late July and August.

    Boris has said the peak of this wave of Covid 19 should be over by late June so why should the Olympics be postponed yet? Even F1 has only postponed races until mid June
  • paulyork64paulyork64 Posts: 2,507
    TGOHF666 said:

    Monday though - lets see next weekend.

    Looks like the govt is putting pressure on shops and sit in restaurants to close.
    I wonder if the crowds we saw yesterday were folks having a last hurrah before locking themselves down. I hope so. the next sunny weekend day will tell us. or even weekday with so many on furlough.

    sunny here in leeds. I have the joy of seeing asda car park from my window. looks less than half as busy as pre-Covid.
  • Definitely a boss move to go to an area with very scant medical provision at the best of times. Good luck getting airlifted to the nearest ventilator, Rod.
  • DougSealDougSeal Posts: 12,541
    Furlough is a word long since fallen into disuse here (I’m an employment lawyer of 20 years standing and I’d never used it) that has been reimported back from the States. What’s next? Turnpike maybe?
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118
    edited March 2020
    @MaxPB one of my mates is on Day 5 of having it. He says the symptoms having got any worse really since Day 2. Backache, chest pain, dry cough, fever, no sense of taste (mates with me) or smell (...). But able to chat on the phone and crack jokes for half an hour, said he could handle another week of it easy, so not all bad. He’s done half a stone though

    Get well soon
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 51,550
    Inconveniencing Laura Perrins by closing shops and restaurants is apparently "immoral, wrong and unethical".

    https://twitter.com/LPerrins/status/1242009473226596355
  • kamskikamski Posts: 5,189
    eadric said:

    Endillion said:

    eadric said:

    Endillion said:

    eadric said:

    kamski said:

    eadric said:

    kamski said:

    eadric said:

    What are the political ramifications of a global Depression? There are so many the mind blanks at the glare.

    Germany is handling Coronavirus better than most, but they are now anticipating a brutal contraction of 10-20% GDP in a year

    It could be worse, therefore, in America and China - and France, Britain, Italy.

    The last Depression led to Nazism and a world war.

    I’m going to have a cup of tea.

    Glad to see you've moved on from "25% of you are going to die!" to there's going to be a global depression.

    Keep drinking the tea, it seems to be making you a lot more chipper.
    You’re the dribbling idiot who actually said this virus was useful, as it was a good warning for when the REALLY bad virus came.

    THE REALLY BAD ONE

    When are you expecting the REALLY bad virus? I’d like to prepare, tbh
    Hopefully we will learn the lessons from this pandemic and be better prepared for the next one. This will not be helped by idiots like you screaming that a quarter of people are going to die of this one.

    Of course IF you are right and 25% of the population dies, then a 20% contraction would be a rise in GDP per capita, so it's win-win I suppose.
    But when? When is the REALLY bad virus coming? You Know, the virus which will REALLY be nasty, unlike this one? Do you have a timescale? Because I’d like to get loo roll for the REALLY serious disease, as against this minor sniffle.

    You utter, utter twit.
    This was posted on this site by someone called "eadric" on February 3:

    Yep. Having been either housebound or bedridden for a week I have done a lot of thinking about this

    It is inevitable that one day a virus like this will cross the barrier, and be genuinely fucking terrible and lethal - 30, 40% mortality - rather than the relatively kindly SARS and corona that we have experienced to date.

    What will that do to us? How would we cope?

    I also now realize that health experts and microbiologists and epidemiologists must already be anticipating this, hence their reaction to my possible case, which is a mixture of concern, chaos, denial, and honest but anxious ignorance

    I could be just another man flu. Or Typhoid Mary


    https://politicalbetting.vanillacommunity.com/discussion/comment/2701841#Comment_2701841
    Hahaha!

    Thank you

    LOOK AT THE DATE ON THAT

    FEBRUARY 3

    Jesus. That was a genius call. I felt it coming.
    I thought my post spoke for itself, but apparently it didn't.

    To be clear:
    - you are "guilty" of the same thing you're now "accusing" others of (saying this virus is a wake up call for the much worse one that's surely coming)
    - you described Covid-19 as "kindly", months after the outbreak started and nearly two weeks after Wuhan was placed under quarantine
    You still don’t understand what I was saying. Impressive.

    I say ‘corona’ - common RNA viruses etc. I don’t say covid-19.

    But this is all over your head, so what’s the point.

    The main thing is, by February 3rd I was already sounding the alarm, here on PB. I was already overcoming my Normalcy Bias.

    Sadly, the rest of you thickies carried on droning away about care homes for another six weeks. Indeed some of you told me to shut up.

    Oh dear. Never mind. 3/10

    The main thing for you about this pandemic seems to be to try and prove that you were right, even when you have been caught being dead wrong. You didn't mean COVID-19 by "corona", right pull the other one. In every other post of yours you use "corona" to mean Covid-19.

    eg "I’m inclined to believe it was corona because of that weird symptom of excessive dry coughing fits which can keep you up all night"

    or did you just mean that you thought you had the common cold?
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,859
    edited March 2020
    eadric said:

    Endillion said:

    eadric said:

    Endillion said:

    eadric said:

    kamski said:

    eadric said:

    kamski said:

    eadric said:

    What are the political ramifications of a global Depression? There are so many the mind blanks at the glare.

    Germany is handling Coronavirus better than most, but they are now anticipating a brutal contraction of 10-20% GDP in a year

    It could be worse, therefore, in America and China - and France, Britain, Italy.

    The last Depression led to Nazism and a world war.

    I’m going to have a cup of tea.

    Glad to see you've moved on from "25% of you are going to die!" to there's going to be a global depression.

    Keep drinking the tea, it seems to be making you a lot more chipper.
    You’re the dribbling idiot who actually said this virus was useful, as it was a good warning for when the REALLY bad virus came.

    THE REALLY BAD ONE

    When are you expecting the REALLY bad virus? I’d like to prepare, tbh
    Hopefully we will learn the lessons from this pandemic and be better prepared for the next one. This will not be helped by idiots like you screaming that a quarter of people are going to die of this one.

    Of course IF you are right and 25% of the population dies, then a 20% contraction would be a rise in GDP per capita, so it's win-win I suppose.
    But when? When is the REALLY bad virus coming? You Know, the virus which will REALLY be nasty, unlike this one? Do you have a timescale? Because I’d like to get loo roll for the REALLY serious disease, as against this minor sniffle.

    You utter, utter twit.
    This was posted on this site by someone called "eadric" on February 3:

    Yep. Having been either housebound or bedridden for a week I have done a lot of thinking about this

    It is inevitable that one day a virus like this will cross the barrier, and be genuinely fucking terrible and lethal - 30, 40% mortality - rather than the relatively kindly SARS and corona that we have experienced to date.

    What will that do to us? How would we cope?

    I also now realize that health experts and microbiologists and epidemiologists must already be anticipating this, hence their reaction to my possible case, which is a mixture of concern, chaos, denial, and honest but anxious ignorance

    I could be just another man flu. Or Typhoid Mary


    https://politicalbetting.vanillacommunity.com/discussion/comment/2701841#Comment_2701841
    Hahaha!

    Thank you

    LOOK AT THE DATE ON THAT

    FEBRUARY 3

    Jesus. That was a genius call. I felt it coming.
    I thought my post spoke for itself, but apparently it didn't.

    To be clear:
    - you are "guilty" of the same thing you're now "accusing" others of (saying this virus is a wake up call for the much worse one that's surely coming)
    - you described Covid-19 as "kindly", months after the outbreak started and nearly two weeks after Wuhan was placed under quarantine
    You still don’t understand what I was saying. Impressive.

    I say ‘corona’ - common RNA viruses etc. I don’t say covid-19.

    But this is all over your head, so what’s the point.

    The main thing is, by February 3rd I was already sounding the alarm, here on PB. I was already overcoming my Normalcy Bias.

    Sadly, the rest of you thickies carried on droning away about care homes for another six weeks. Indeed some of you told me to shut up.

    Oh dear. Never mind. 3/10

    More BS from you, I see. Up until the middle of February you were telling us it would be “benign”. Subsequently you predicted two million dead Britons. Both predictions, and most of your posts, have been so wide of the mark as to be laughable. Hardly anything you yourself have said hadn’t been said, in a more level headed way, by other PB’ers weeks previously.

    No-one likes an “I told you do”. Pretending to have told us so is more objectionable still.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 27,815

    TGOHF666 said:

    Monday though - lets see next weekend.

    Looks like the govt is putting pressure on shops and sit in restaurants to close.
    I wonder if the crowds we saw yesterday were folks having a last hurrah before locking themselves down. I hope so. the next sunny weekend day will tell us. or even weekday with so many on furlough.

    sunny here in leeds. I have the joy of seeing asda car park from my window. looks less than half as busy as pre-Covid.
    I've not panic-bought or stockpiled. I have four tins of kippers (not mackerel as previously reported), nine toilet rolls and one thingy of soap. I had expected shops to return to normal weeks ago once all the panic-buyers had filled their cupboards but it has gone on and on. What I do need, and I suspect this is true for many of us stoic types, is for HMG to leave the bloody shops open. Otherwise the panicked stockpilers were right.
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118

    TGOHF666 said:

    Monday though - lets see next weekend.

    Looks like the govt is putting pressure on shops and sit in restaurants to close.
    I wonder if the crowds we saw yesterday were folks having a last hurrah before locking themselves down. I hope so. the next sunny weekend day will tell us. or even weekday with so many on furlough.

    sunny here in leeds. I have the joy of seeing asda car park from my window. looks less than half as busy as pre-Covid.
    I’d say so. Yesterday was the first nice day for ages, it was Mother’s Day and at the weekend. We’ve had a telling off from the PM and media, and I’d say things will calm down now, social distancing wise.
  • paulyork64paulyork64 Posts: 2,507
    Yorkcity said:

    On gambling, although no sport to bet on apparently online poker is seeing a massive uptick in traffic (and I presume the casino games are as well).

    There was some Irish horse racing last weekend.
    Also some greyhound racing .
    also plenty of very obscure russian and ukranian table tennis. not on TV though. although it probably isn't much worse than some that gets broadcast eg fishing.
  • Fysics_TeacherFysics_Teacher Posts: 6,285
    School news: judging by an email from school we have less than 1% of our normal number of students today. How are other schools doing, if there are any other teachers around?
  • nichomarnichomar Posts: 7,483
    HYUFD said:

    eadric said:

    OT we finally got a glimmer of an admission from Abe that the Olympics might need to be postponed. This comes after a couple of teams and I think the Canadian olympic association or whatever made public requests to postpone.

    I don't *think* I believe the conspiracy theories about Japan deliberately holding back covid19 testing in the hope of keeping the Olympics going but it would be really nice not to have to worry about it.

    If anyone has any contacts with anyone in British olympic teams or the related organizations it would be really helpful if a few more people could stick their nails in the coffin...

    The aussies are also saying they won’t go. The olympics won’t happen. It’s so sad for Japan, but Coronavirus is worse.

    Better to accept it now. Athletes are isolating, not training.
    The Olympics are not due until late July and August.

    Boris has said the peak of this wave of Covid 19 should be over by late June so why should the Olympics be postponed yet? Even F1 has only postponed races until mid June
    Some bloke called boris said it will all be over by late June so no need to cancel the olympics. Fortunately the rest of world isn’t listening.
  • paulyork64paulyork64 Posts: 2,507

    I think the supermarkets have probably started to get their act together now. I guess it has taken time to ramp up to Christmas shopping levels across the supply chain.

    Our 60 item Sainsburys delivery has 12 not availables but substitutes for 11 of the 12.

    Only item we cant have at all is eggs.

    10/10 to Sainsburys assuming no last minute hitch
    no eggs? that's why eadric got a chicken.
  • numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 6,807
    isam said:

    TGOHF666 said:

    Monday though - lets see next weekend.

    Looks like the govt is putting pressure on shops and sit in restaurants to close.
    I wonder if the crowds we saw yesterday were folks having a last hurrah before locking themselves down. I hope so. the next sunny weekend day will tell us. or even weekday with so many on furlough.

    sunny here in leeds. I have the joy of seeing asda car park from my window. looks less than half as busy as pre-Covid.
    I’d say so. Yesterday was the first nice day for ages, it was Mother’s Day and at the weekend. We’ve had a telling off from the PM and media, and I’d say things will calm down now, social distancing wise.
    Easter weekend will be an interesting one.
  • numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 6,807
    nichomar said:

    HYUFD said:

    eadric said:

    OT we finally got a glimmer of an admission from Abe that the Olympics might need to be postponed. This comes after a couple of teams and I think the Canadian olympic association or whatever made public requests to postpone.

    I don't *think* I believe the conspiracy theories about Japan deliberately holding back covid19 testing in the hope of keeping the Olympics going but it would be really nice not to have to worry about it.

    If anyone has any contacts with anyone in British olympic teams or the related organizations it would be really helpful if a few more people could stick their nails in the coffin...

    The aussies are also saying they won’t go. The olympics won’t happen. It’s so sad for Japan, but Coronavirus is worse.

    Better to accept it now. Athletes are isolating, not training.
    The Olympics are not due until late July and August.

    Boris has said the peak of this wave of Covid 19 should be over by late June so why should the Olympics be postponed yet? Even F1 has only postponed races until mid June
    Some bloke called boris said it will all be over by late June so no need to cancel the olympics. Fortunately the rest of world isn’t listening.
    I don’t think he’s ever said it will definitely be over by late June.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 27,815
    America is making 16 supercomputers available to Covid-19 researchers.

    The COVID-19 High Performance Computing Consortium Bringing together the Federal government, industry, and academic leaders to provide access to the world’s most powerful high-performance computing resources in support of COVID-19 research. Over 330 petaflops, 775,000 CPU cores, 34,000 GPUs, and counting.

    https://covid19-hpc.mybluemix.net/
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 81,947
    edited March 2020
    Scott_xP said:

    twitter.com/CatMcKinnell/status/1242007071480037378

    McDonalds before their closure we doing this...not that I ever venture into such an establishment, obvs.

    Even if Tescos etc had done it, the dickheads would still ignore it in their rush to get yet another 5kg of dried penne.
  • sladeslade Posts: 2,034
    Can I add my congratulations to the PB team and all posters. Like many it has become an regular part of my day even when not posting. On the current crisis I know of no-one who has the virus - at least knowingly. But I do live in a converted sanitorium high in the Pennines!
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,925

    School news: judging by an email from school we have less than 1% of our normal number of students today. How are other schools doing, if there are any other teachers around?

    No burly gentlemen at the gate demanding their kids be let in? :smiley:
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 81,947

    America is making 16 supercomputers available to Covid-19 researchers.

    The COVID-19 High Performance Computing Consortium Bringing together the Federal government, industry, and academic leaders to provide access to the world’s most powerful high-performance computing resources in support of COVID-19 research. Over 330 petaflops, 775,000 CPU cores, 34,000 GPUs, and counting.

    https://covid19-hpc.mybluemix.net/

    Can they not just use them to replace Trump?
  • MortimerMortimer Posts: 14,124
    isam said:

    @MaxPB one of my mates is on Day 5 of having it. He says the symptoms having got any worse really since Day 2. Backache, chest pain, dry cough, fever, no sense of taste (mates with me) or smell (...). But able to chat on the phone and crack jokes for half an hour, said he could handle another week of it easy, so not all bad. He’s done half a stone though

    Get well soon

    Get well soon @MaxPB

    You know another really long term symptom of my lingering post Christmas cough and fever? My sense of taste and smell didn't return properly for about 2 months. You don't realise how nice taste and smell are until they return.

  • School news: judging by an email from school we have less than 1% of our normal number of students today. How are other schools doing, if there are any other teachers around?

    We've got about 10%, but that may drop - some of the parents out in the more rural villages are trying to make arrangements to keep them at home rather than travelling every day.

    We do have a lot of parents working in health/social care, but even parents who had an occupation on the list contacted us to say they could make alternative arrangements to reduce pressure on our staffing situation.

    I drove past the other high school in the area on the way in, staff car park was almost full. I wonder if the HT is mandating staff to attend, that's very high risk if so.

    We're staffing on a rota, I'm not due in until later in the week, so will see if attendance starts to fall. We're going day to day at the moment.
  • kamskikamski Posts: 5,189

    Yorkcity said:

    On gambling, although no sport to bet on apparently online poker is seeing a massive uptick in traffic (and I presume the casino games are as well).

    There was some Irish horse racing last weekend.
    Also some greyhound racing .
    also plenty of very obscure russian and ukranian table tennis. not on TV though. although it probably isn't much worse than some that gets broadcast eg fishing.
    You can bet on the Candidates tournament, and watch live commentary here, for example:

    https://chess24.com/en/watch/live-tournaments/fide-candidates-2020/6/1/3

    biggest sporting event in the world right now.

    I would like Grischuk to win, probably not going to happen.
  • eristdooferistdoof Posts: 5,065

    First of all, Happy Birthday, Pb.com!

    Secondly, catching up on the overnight thread, I see that there is still a bit of confusion on how exactly we Germans are cheating and fiddling the numbers, so I'd like to take the opportunity and try to sort it out for you.

    Dedicated Lexiteers have explained for many decades how the Fourth Reich is a neo-liberal, hyper-capitalist paradise where the corporate vultures are allowed, and even encouraged, to exploit the 'workers'.

    Meanwhile, properly patriotic Brexiteers have explained for many decades how the Fourth Reich is a culturally marxist, hyper-trotskyite abomination where good, honest, buccaneering businesspeople suffer so immensely under the yoke of the socialist workers' paradise.

    While simpler minds may still argue which opinion is the correct one, those more capable of holistic thinking will long have recognised that both these sets of perfectly valid assessments are completely accurate at the exact same time.

    So, the one racing certainty we can safely take away from the above deliberations is that contemporary Germany is, in fact, a paradise. Of one sort or another. As close to heaven on earth as you can ever possibly get.

    Great country. Greatest country in the world.
    Amazing, fantastic, tremendous.
    And this undeniable fact may then go a long way in explaining why the Hun is somewhat reluctant to shed this mortal coil.

    So, once again, this time in German:
    "Herzlichen Glückwunsch, Pb.com!"

    "Great country. Greatest country in the world. "
    Of course the fourth Reich is such a great country is because it was crafted and nurtured by the British and the Americans. The french don't really count.
  • Fysics_TeacherFysics_Teacher Posts: 6,285
    RobD said:

    School news: judging by an email from school we have less than 1% of our normal number of students today. How are other schools doing, if there are any other teachers around?

    No burly gentlemen at the gate demanding their kids be let in? :smiley:
    I wouldn’t know about that as I was keeping well away.
  • EndillionEndillion Posts: 4,976
    eadric said:

    Endillion said:

    eadric said:

    Endillion said:

    eadric said:

    kamski said:

    eadric said:

    kamski said:

    eadric said:

    What are the political ramifications of a global Depression? There are so many the mind blanks at the glare.

    Germany is handling Coronavirus better than most, but they are now anticipating a brutal contraction of 10-20% GDP in a year

    It could be worse, therefore, in America and China - and France, Britain, Italy.

    The last Depression led to Nazism and a world war.

    I’m going to have a cup of tea.

    Glad to see you've moved on from "25% of you are going to die!" to there's going to be a global depression.

    Keep drinking the tea, it seems to be making you a lot more chipper.
    You’re the dribbling idiot who actually said this virus was useful, as it was a good warning for when the REALLY bad virus came.

    THE REALLY BAD ONE

    When are you expecting the REALLY bad virus? I’d like to prepare, tbh
    Hopefully we will learn the lessons from this pandemic and be better prepared for the next one. This will not be helped by idiots like you screaming that a quarter of people are going to die of this one.

    Of course IF you are right and 25% of the population dies, then a 20% contraction would be a rise in GDP per capita, so it's win-win I suppose.
    But when? When is the REALLY bad virus coming? You Know, the virus which will REALLY be nasty, unlike this one? Do you have a timescale? Because I’d like to get loo roll for the REALLY serious disease, as against this minor sniffle.

    You utter, utter twit.
    This was posted on this site by someone called "eadric" on February 3:

    Yep. Having been either housebound or bedridden for a week I have done a lot of thinking about this

    It is inevitable that one day a virus like this will cross the barrier, and be genuinely fucking terrible and lethal - 30, 40% mortality - rather than the relatively kindly SARS and corona that we have experienced to date.

    What will that do to us? How would we cope?

    I also now realize that health experts and microbiologists and epidemiologists must already be anticipating this, hence their reaction to my possible case, which is a mixture of concern, chaos, denial, and honest but anxious ignorance

    I could be just another man flu. Or Typhoid Mary


    https://politicalbetting.vanillacommunity.com/discussion/comment/2701841#Comment_2701841
    Hahaha!

    Thank you

    LOOK AT THE DATE ON THAT

    FEBRUARY 3

    Jesus. That was a genius call. I felt it coming.
    I thought my post spoke for itself, but apparently it didn't.

    To be clear:
    - you are "guilty" of the same thing you're now "accusing" others of (saying this virus is a wake up call for the much worse one that's surely coming)
    - you described Covid-19 as "kindly", months after the outbreak started and nearly two weeks after Wuhan was placed under quarantine
    You still don’t understand what I was saying. Impressive.

    I say ‘corona’ - common RNA viruses etc. I don’t say covid-19.

    But this is all over your head, so what’s the point.

    The main thing is, by February 3rd I was already sounding the alarm, here on PB. I was already overcoming my Normalcy Bias.

    Sadly, the rest of you thickies carried on droning away about care homes for another six weeks. Indeed some of you told me to shut up.

    Oh dear. Never mind. 3/10

    Wow. Truly impressive dissembling.

    A few things:
    - It wasn't even called Covid-19 till February 11, so your use of that term would have been astounding. I think it's clear you meant the current outbreak, not some arbitrary "other" virus.
    - Your exact words were "a virus like this". Ie - not this virus. Because this virus is "kindly", and not a serious threat.
    - By February 3 it was obvious to everyone (except you, apparently) that this was serious. The WHO declared a global public-health emergency on Jan 30. Trump's first travel ban was announced on Jan 31.

    In short, you were behind, not ahead of, the curve (not that curve). You are now, for reasons best known only to yourself, not only trying to pretend otherwise, but also criticising others for the same thing. Please stop it.
  • StereotomyStereotomy Posts: 4,092
    eadric said:

    kamski said:

    eadric said:

    Endillion said:

    eadric said:

    Endillion said:

    eadric said:

    kamski said:

    eadric said:

    kamski said:

    eadric said:

    What are the political ramifications of a global Depression? There are so many the mind blanks at the glare.

    Germany is handling Coronavirus better than most, but they are now anticipating a brutal contraction of 10-20% GDP in a year

    It could be worse, therefore, in America and China - and France, Britain, Italy.

    The last Depression led to Nazism and a world war.

    I’m going to have a cup of tea.

    Glad to see you've moved on from "25% of you are going to die!" to there's going to be a global depression.

    Keep drinking the tea, it seems to be making you a lot more chipper.
    You’re the dribbling idiot who actually said this virus was useful, as it was a good warning for when the REALLY bad virus came.

    THE REALLY BAD ONE

    When are you expecting the REALLY bad virus? I’d like to prepare, tbh
    Hopefully we will learn the lessons from this pandemic and be better prepared for the next one. This will not be helped by idiots like you screaming that a quarter of people are going to die of this one.

    Of course IF you are right and 25% of the population dies, then a 20% contraction would be a rise in GDP per capita, so it's win-win I suppose.
    But when? When is the REALLY bad virus coming? You Know, the virus which will REALLY be nasty, unlike this one? Do you have a timescale? Because I’d like to get loo roll for the REALLY serious disease, as against this minor sniffle.

    You utter, utter twit.
    This was posted on this site by someone called "eadric" on February 3:

    Yep. Having been either housebound or bedridden for a week I have done a lot of thinking about this

    It is inevitable that one day a virus like this will cross the barrier, and be genuinely fucking terrible and lethal - 30, 40% mortality - rather than the relatively kindly SARS and corona that we have experienced to date.

    What will that do to us? How would we cope?

    I also now realize that health experts and microbiologists and epidemiologists must already be anticipating this, hence their reaction to my possible case, which is a mixture of concern, chaos, denial, and honest but anxious ignorance

    I could be just another man flu. Or Typhoid Mary


    https://politicalbetting.vanillacommunity.com/discussion/comment/2701841#Comment_2701841
    Hahaha!

    Thank you

    LOOK AT THE DATE ON THAT

    FEBRUARY 3

    Jesus. That was a genius call. I felt it coming.
    I thought my post spoke for itself, but apparently it didn't.

    To be clear:
    - you are "guilty" of the same thing you're now "accusing" others of (saying this virus is a wake up call for the much worse one that's surely coming)
    - you described Covid-19 as "kindly", months after the outbreak started and nearly two weeks after Wuhan was placed under quarantine
    You still don’t understand what I was saying. Impressive.

    I say ‘corona’ - common RNA viruses etc. I don’t say covid-19.

    But this is all over your head, so what’s the point.

    The main thing is, by February 3rd I was already sounding the alarm, here on PB. I was already overcoming my Normalcy Bias.

    Sadly, the rest of you thickies carried on droning away about care homes for another six weeks. Indeed some of you told me to shut up.

    Oh dear. Never mind. 3/10

    The main thing for you about this pandemic seems to be to try and prove that you were right, even when you have been caught being dead wrong. You didn't mean COVID-19 by "corona", right pull the other one. In every other post of yours you use "corona" to mean Covid-19.

    eg "I’m inclined to believe it was corona because of that weird symptom of excessive dry coughing fits which can keep you up all night"

    or did you just mean that you thought you had the common cold?
    FEBRUARY THE THIRD

    I should get a special PB medal
    Bit early in the day to be drinking, isn't it?
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 53,785

    DavidL said:

    Stunningly success supermarket raid by my better half today. Toilet rolls, kitchen rolls, paracetamol, bread, even some pasta. Some things low in stock but most not out. Have we seen the worst of the panic buying?

    There is only so much bog roll one man can need !!!!
    Indeed. And every freezer in the land is probably full by now. I just wonder if the return to some sort of normalcy in the supermarkets might reduce the hysteria a tad.
  • paulyork64paulyork64 Posts: 2,507
    in

    isam said:

    TGOHF666 said:

    Monday though - lets see next weekend.

    Looks like the govt is putting pressure on shops and sit in restaurants to close.
    I wonder if the crowds we saw yesterday were folks having a last hurrah before locking themselves down. I hope so. the next sunny weekend day will tell us. or even weekday with so many on furlough.

    sunny here in leeds. I have the joy of seeing asda car park from my window. looks less than half as busy as pre-Covid.
    I’d say so. Yesterday was the first nice day for ages, it was Mother’s Day and at the weekend. We’ve had a telling off from the PM and media, and I’d say things will calm down now, social distancing wise.
    Easter weekend will be an interesting one.
    indeed. almost 3 weeks away. should we have a good idea if current measures are working by then?
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 27,815

    Inconveniencing Laura Perrins by closing shops and restaurants is apparently "immoral, wrong and unethical".

    https://twitter.com/LPerrins/status/1242009473226596355

    Immoral, wrong and unethical. I know three-part lists are a time-honoured rhetorical device but isn't she just saying the same thing three times?
  • eristdooferistdoof Posts: 5,065

    nichomar said:

    HYUFD said:

    eadric said:

    OT we finally got a glimmer of an admission from Abe that the Olympics might need to be postponed. This comes after a couple of teams and I think the Canadian olympic association or whatever made public requests to postpone.

    I don't *think* I believe the conspiracy theories about Japan deliberately holding back covid19 testing in the hope of keeping the Olympics going but it would be really nice not to have to worry about it.

    If anyone has any contacts with anyone in British olympic teams or the related organizations it would be really helpful if a few more people could stick their nails in the coffin...

    The aussies are also saying they won’t go. The olympics won’t happen. It’s so sad for Japan, but Coronavirus is worse.

    Better to accept it now. Athletes are isolating, not training.
    The Olympics are not due until late July and August.

    Boris has said the peak of this wave of Covid 19 should be over by late June so why should the Olympics be postponed yet? Even F1 has only postponed races until mid June
    Some bloke called boris said it will all be over by late June so no need to cancel the olympics. Fortunately the rest of world isn’t listening.
    I don’t think he’s ever said it will definitely be over by late June.
    Didn't he say in 12 weeks we will have turned the corner? As far as I remeber in every horror/zombie film I have seen, turning the corner reveals hitherto unforseen nasties.
  • FloaterFloater Posts: 14,207
    News from USA

    Dr Jerome Adams, the operational head of the US Public Health Service Commissioned Corps (PHSCC), was speaking to NBC News’ Today programme, where he said: “I want America to understand this week it’s going to get bad. We really need to come together as a nation … we really really need everyone to stay at home.”
  • Fysics_TeacherFysics_Teacher Posts: 6,285

    School news: judging by an email from school we have less than 1% of our normal number of students today. How are other schools doing, if there are any other teachers around?

    We've got about 10%, but that may drop - some of the parents out in the more rural villages are trying to make arrangements to keep them at home rather than travelling every day.

    We do have a lot of parents working in health/social care, but even parents who had an occupation on the list contacted us to say they could make alternative arrangements to reduce pressure on our staffing situation.

    I drove past the other high school in the area on the way in, staff car park was almost full. I wonder if the HT is mandating staff to attend, that's very high risk if so.

    We're staffing on a rota, I'm not due in until later in the week, so will see if attendance starts to fall. We're going day to day at the moment.
    We have been told NOT to come to work (capital letters in the original e-mail) unless we absolutely have to: that applies to all staff, not just teachers.
  • welshowlwelshowl Posts: 4,464

    America is making 16 supercomputers available to Covid-19 researchers.

    The COVID-19 High Performance Computing Consortium Bringing together the Federal government, industry, and academic leaders to provide access to the world’s most powerful high-performance computing resources in support of COVID-19 research. Over 330 petaflops, 775,000 CPU cores, 34,000 GPUs, and counting.

    https://covid19-hpc.mybluemix.net/

    Can they not just use them to replace Trump?
    Surely they’d only need a ZX80?
  • FloaterFloater Posts: 14,207
    Health care professionals continue to pay a high price

    Three doctors have died in France after contracting the coronavirus, according to the AFP news agency.

    The French health minister, Olivier Véran, confirmed a hospital doctor died on Sunday. He was an accident and emergency medic working at a hospital in Compiègne, north of Paris, in an area that was first hit by a Covid-19 cluster.

    Today, news is breaking that a 66-year-old gynaecologist and a 60-year-old GP have also died, both from eastern France where hospitals have also been overwhelmed with patients.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 53,785
    HYUFD said:

    DavidL said:

    HYUFD said:

    US $1.7 trillion rescue package fails in the Senate, with only 47 Senators voting in favour rather than the 60 required
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/collins-blasts-democrats-for-blocking-coronavirus-stimulus-plan-says-theyre-playing-with-fire

    For god's sake. Are they all crazy?
    Mind you the 2008 bailout was voted down by the House first time too
    I'd forgotten that, you're right.

    I am not sure we've got everything right in this crisis, we probably should have moved to lock down a week earlier (I think they were caught out by the unexpected speed of spread) but they really should have a look at Sunak's wages plan. I've not seen a better one even if it still needs tweaking at the gig/self employed edges.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 81,947
    welshowl said:

    America is making 16 supercomputers available to Covid-19 researchers.

    The COVID-19 High Performance Computing Consortium Bringing together the Federal government, industry, and academic leaders to provide access to the world’s most powerful high-performance computing resources in support of COVID-19 research. Over 330 petaflops, 775,000 CPU cores, 34,000 GPUs, and counting.

    https://covid19-hpc.mybluemix.net/

    Can they not just use them to replace Trump?
    Surely they’d only need a ZX80?
    I was hoping for an upgrade not a like for like replacement.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,859
    eadric said:

    Endillion said:

    eadric said:

    Endillion said:

    eadric said:

    Endillion said:

    eadric said:

    kamski said:

    eadric said:

    kamski said:

    eadric said:

    What are the political ramifications of a global Depression? There are so many the mind blanks at the glare.

    Germany is handling Coronavirus better than most, but they are now anticipating a brutal contraction of 10-20% GDP in a year

    It could be worse, therefore, in America and China - and France, Britain, Italy.

    The last Depression led to Nazism and a world war.

    I’m going to have a cup of tea.

    Glad to see you've moved on from "25% of you are going to die!" to there's going to be a global depression.

    Keep drinking the tea, it seems to be making you a lot more chipper.
    You’re the dribbling idiot who actually said this virus was useful, as it was a good warning for when the REALLY bad virus came.

    THE REALLY BAD ONE

    When are you expecting the REALLY bad virus? I’d like to prepare, tbh
    Hopefully we will learn the lessons from this pandemic and be better prepared for the next one. This will not be helped by idiots like you screaming that a quarter of people are going to die of this one.

    Of course IF you are right and 25% of the population dies, then a 20% contraction would be a rise in GDP per capita, so it's win-win I suppose.
    But when? When is the REALLY bad virus coming? You Know, the virus which will REALLY be nasty, unlike this one? Do you have a timescale? Because I’d like to get loo roll for the REALLY serious disease, as against this minor sniffle.

    You utter, utter twit.
    This was posted on this site by someone called "eadric" on February 3:

    Yep. Having been either housebound or bedridden for a week I have done a lot of thinking about this

    It is inevitable that one day a virus like this will cross the barrier, and be genuinely fucking terrible and lethal - 30, 40% mortality - rather than the relatively kindly SARS and corona that we have experienced to date.

    What will that do to us? How would we cope?

    I also now realize that health experts and microbiologists and epidemiologists must already be anticipating this, hence their reaction to my possible case, which is a mixture of concern, chaos, denial, and honest but anxious ignorance

    I could be just another man flu. Or Typhoid Mary


    https://politicalbetting.vanillacommunity.com/discussion/comment/2701841#Comment_2701841
    Hahaha!

    Thank you

    LOOK AT THE DATE ON THAT

    FEBRUARY 3

    Jesus. That was a genius call. I felt it coming.
    I thought my post spoke for itself, but apparently it didn't.

    To be clear:
    - you are "guilty" of the same thing you're now "accusing" others of (saying this virus is a wake up call for the much worse one that's surely coming)
    - you described Covid-19 as "kindly", months after the outbreak started and nearly two weeks after Wuhan was placed under quarantine
    You still don’t understand what I was saying. Impressive.

    I say ‘corona’ - common RNA viruses etc. I don’t say covid-19.

    But this is all over your head, so what’s the point.

    The main thing is, by February 3rd I was already sounding the alarm, here on PB. I was already overcoming my Normalcy Bias.

    Sadly, the rest of you thickies carried on droning away about care homes for another six weeks. Indeed some of you told me to shut up.

    Oh dear. Never mind. 3/10

    Wow. Truly impressive dissembling.

    A few things:
    - It wasn't even called Covid-19 till February 11, so your use of that term would have been astounding. I think it's clear you meant the current outbreak, not some arbitrary "other" virus.
    - Your exact words were "a virus like this". Ie - not this virus. Because this virus is "kindly", and not a serious threat.
    - By February 3 it was obvious to everyone (except you, apparently) that this was serious. The WHO declared a global public-health emergency on Jan 30. Trump's first travel ban was announced on Jan 31.

    In short, you were behind, not ahead of, the curve (not that curve). You are now, for reasons best known only to yourself, not only trying to pretend otherwise, but also criticising others for the same thing. Please stop it.

    February the 3rd. I expect a Nobel nomination at least, at the end of this.
    Just hope the awards panel don’t take a look at the stream of utter crap you have posted since then, eh?
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 27,815

    in

    isam said:

    TGOHF666 said:

    Monday though - lets see next weekend.

    Looks like the govt is putting pressure on shops and sit in restaurants to close.
    I wonder if the crowds we saw yesterday were folks having a last hurrah before locking themselves down. I hope so. the next sunny weekend day will tell us. or even weekday with so many on furlough.

    sunny here in leeds. I have the joy of seeing asda car park from my window. looks less than half as busy as pre-Covid.
    I’d say so. Yesterday was the first nice day for ages, it was Mother’s Day and at the weekend. We’ve had a telling off from the PM and media, and I’d say things will calm down now, social distancing wise.
    Easter weekend will be an interesting one.
    indeed. almost 3 weeks away. should we have a good idea if current measures are working by then?
    April sees Easter, Passover and Ramadan. Let's hope HMG is talking to religious leaders about praying from home.
  • rpjsrpjs Posts: 3,787
    edited March 2020

    First of all, Happy Birthday, Pb.com!

    Secondly, catching up on the overnight thread, I see that there is still a bit of confusion on how exactly we Germans are cheating and fiddling the numbers, so I'd like to take the opportunity and try to sort it out for you.

    Dedicated Lexiteers have explained for many decades how the Fourth Reich is a neo-liberal, hyper-capitalist paradise where the corporate vultures are allowed, and even encouraged, to exploit the 'workers'.

    Meanwhile, properly patriotic Brexiteers have explained for many decades how the Fourth Reich is a culturally marxist, hyper-trotskyite abomination where good, honest, buccaneering businesspeople suffer so immensely under the yoke of the socialist workers' paradise.

    While simpler minds may still argue which opinion is the correct one, those more capable of holistic thinking will long have recognised that both these sets of perfectly valid assessments are completely accurate at the exact same time.

    So, the one racing certainty we can safely take away from the above deliberations is that contemporary Germany is, in fact, a paradise. Of one sort or another. As close to heaven on earth as you can ever possibly get.

    Great country. Greatest country in the world.
    Amazing, fantastic, tremendous.
    And this undeniable fact may then go a long way in explaining why the Hun is somewhat reluctant to shed this mortal coil.

    So, once again, this time in German:
    "Herzlichen Glückwunsch, Pb.com!"

    This might be the single best thing I’ve ever read on PB.
  • Fysics_TeacherFysics_Teacher Posts: 6,285

    Inconveniencing Laura Perrins by closing shops and restaurants is apparently "immoral, wrong and unethical".

    https://twitter.com/LPerrins/status/1242009473226596355

    Immoral, wrong and unethical. I know three-part lists are a time-honoured rhetorical device but isn't she just saying the same thing three times?
    2+2=5 is wrong but not really immoral...
  • paulyork64paulyork64 Posts: 2,507
    kamski said:

    Yorkcity said:

    On gambling, although no sport to bet on apparently online poker is seeing a massive uptick in traffic (and I presume the casino games are as well).

    There was some Irish horse racing last weekend.
    Also some greyhound racing .
    also plenty of very obscure russian and ukranian table tennis. not on TV though. although it probably isn't much worse than some that gets broadcast eg fishing.
    You can bet on the Candidates tournament, and watch live commentary here, for example:

    https://chess24.com/en/watch/live-tournaments/fide-candidates-2020/6/1/3

    biggest sporting event in the world right now.

    I would like Grischuk to win, probably not going to happen.
    ah yes, i was following a couple of matches the other day. ladbrokes were betting on one, and i think betcity had 4 tables out.
  • eristdooferistdoof Posts: 5,065
    eadric said:

    OT we finally got a glimmer of an admission from Abe that the Olympics might need to be postponed. This comes after a couple of teams and I think the Canadian olympic association or whatever made public requests to postpone.

    I don't *think* I believe the conspiracy theories about Japan deliberately holding back covid19 testing in the hope of keeping the Olympics going but it would be really nice not to have to worry about it.

    If anyone has any contacts with anyone in British olympic teams or the related organizations it would be really helpful if a few more people could stick their nails in the coffin...

    The aussies are also saying they won’t go. The olympics won’t happen. It’s so sad for Japan, but Coronavirus is worse.

    Better to accept it now. Athletes are isolating, not training.

    IMO if the Japanese hold the Olympics in July, all countries hit hard by Covid-19 should send exactly one person to the olympics, and that one person should attend the opening ceremony. It is frankly unacceptable that Italian or Spanish competitors should be expected to train for the Olympics at ths stage.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 122,858

    in

    isam said:

    TGOHF666 said:

    Monday though - lets see next weekend.

    Looks like the govt is putting pressure on shops and sit in restaurants to close.
    I wonder if the crowds we saw yesterday were folks having a last hurrah before locking themselves down. I hope so. the next sunny weekend day will tell us. or even weekday with so many on furlough.

    sunny here in leeds. I have the joy of seeing asda car park from my window. looks less than half as busy as pre-Covid.
    I’d say so. Yesterday was the first nice day for ages, it was Mother’s Day and at the weekend. We’ve had a telling off from the PM and media, and I’d say things will calm down now, social distancing wise.
    Easter weekend will be an interesting one.
    indeed. almost 3 weeks away. should we have a good idea if current measures are working by then?
    April sees Easter, Passover and Ramadan. Let's hope HMG is talking to religious leaders about praying from home.
    All C of E services now livestreamed with just priests in attendance with no public worship
  • justin124justin124 Posts: 11,527

    HYUFD said:
    Not volunteering but a thread on this would be good - it's a classic case where there's a strong consensus on what we think is happening - Trump is bollocksing everything up and destroying what's left of his presidency - that's seriously at odds with the available data.
    All incumbents appear to be receiving a crisis boost in popularity - including Macron and Johnson. Will it last?
  • logical_songlogical_song Posts: 9,913
    eristdoof said:

    eadric said:

    OT we finally got a glimmer of an admission from Abe that the Olympics might need to be postponed. This comes after a couple of teams and I think the Canadian olympic association or whatever made public requests to postpone.

    I don't *think* I believe the conspiracy theories about Japan deliberately holding back covid19 testing in the hope of keeping the Olympics going but it would be really nice not to have to worry about it.

    If anyone has any contacts with anyone in British olympic teams or the related organizations it would be really helpful if a few more people could stick their nails in the coffin...

    The aussies are also saying they won’t go. The olympics won’t happen. It’s so sad for Japan, but Coronavirus is worse.

    Better to accept it now. Athletes are isolating, not training.

    IMO if the Japanese hold the Olympics in July, all countries hit hard by Covid-19 should send exactly one person to the olympics, and that one person should attend the opening ceremony. It is frankly unacceptable that Italian or Spanish competitors should be expected to train for the Olympics at ths stage.
    Delay Olympics for one year?
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 27,815
    Scott_xP said:
    If there are only three people queueing they can stand on whatever colour dots they like.
  • JonCisBackJonCisBack Posts: 911
    TGOHF666 said:

    DavidL said:

    Stunningly success supermarket raid by my better half today. Toilet rolls, kitchen rolls, paracetamol, bread, even some pasta. Some things low in stock but most not out. Have we seen the worst of the panic buying?

    Suppliers to restaurants will suddenly have a lot of extra stock - they will be diverting to supermarkets. Some unusual brands/packaging may appear over the next few weeks.
    And schools
  • BarnesianBarnesian Posts: 8,578
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  • Fysics_TeacherFysics_Teacher Posts: 6,285
    eadric said:

    rpjs said:

    First of all, Happy Birthday, Pb.com!

    Secondly, catching up on the overnight thread, I see that there is still a bit of confusion on how exactly we Germans are cheating and fiddling the numbers, so I'd like to take the opportunity and try to sort it out for you.

    Dedicated Lexiteers have explained for many decades how the Fourth Reich is a neo-liberal, hyper-capitalist paradise where the corporate vultures are allowed, and even encouraged, to exploit the 'workers'.

    Meanwhile, properly patriotic Brexiteers have explained for many decades how the Fourth Reich is a culturally marxist, hyper-trotskyite abomination where good, honest, buccaneering businesspeople suffer so immensely under the yoke of the socialist workers' paradise.

    While simpler minds may still argue which opinion is the correct one, those more capable of holistic thinking will long have recognised that both these sets of perfectly valid assessments are completely accurate at the exact same time.

    So, the one racing certainty we can safely take away from the above deliberations is that contemporary Germany is, in fact, a paradise. Of one sort or another. As close to heaven on earth as you can ever possibly get.

    Great country. Greatest country in the world.
    Amazing, fantastic, tremendous.
    And this undeniable fact may then go a long way in explaining why the Hun is somewhat reluctant to shed this mortal coil.

    So, once again, this time in German:
    "Herzlichen Glückwunsch, Pb.com!"

    This might be the single best thing I’ve ever read on PB.
    It’s very good. And if Matthias genuinely is German, his command of English is astonishing

    Keep posting, Matthias!
    There used to be a trope in novels where someone was described as having to be foreign because no British person had that good a command of the language...
  • paulyork64paulyork64 Posts: 2,507
    eristdoof said:

    eadric said:

    OT we finally got a glimmer of an admission from Abe that the Olympics might need to be postponed. This comes after a couple of teams and I think the Canadian olympic association or whatever made public requests to postpone.

    I don't *think* I believe the conspiracy theories about Japan deliberately holding back covid19 testing in the hope of keeping the Olympics going but it would be really nice not to have to worry about it.

    If anyone has any contacts with anyone in British olympic teams or the related organizations it would be really helpful if a few more people could stick their nails in the coffin...

    The aussies are also saying they won’t go. The olympics won’t happen. It’s so sad for Japan, but Coronavirus is worse.

    Better to accept it now. Athletes are isolating, not training.

    IMO if the Japanese hold the Olympics in July, all countries hit hard by Covid-19 should send exactly one person to the olympics, and that one person should attend the opening ceremony. It is frankly unacceptable that Italian or Spanish competitors should be expected to train for the Olympics at ths stage.
    I think canada have already said they're not going.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 122,858
    nichomar said:

    HYUFD said:

    eadric said:

    OT we finally got a glimmer of an admission from Abe that the Olympics might need to be postponed. This comes after a couple of teams and I think the Canadian olympic association or whatever made public requests to postpone.

    I don't *think* I believe the conspiracy theories about Japan deliberately holding back covid19 testing in the hope of keeping the Olympics going but it would be really nice not to have to worry about it.

    If anyone has any contacts with anyone in British olympic teams or the related organizations it would be really helpful if a few more people could stick their nails in the coffin...

    The aussies are also saying they won’t go. The olympics won’t happen. It’s so sad for Japan, but Coronavirus is worse.

    Better to accept it now. Athletes are isolating, not training.
    The Olympics are not due until late July and August.

    Boris has said the peak of this wave of Covid 19 should be over by late June so why should the Olympics be postponed yet? Even F1 has only postponed races until mid June
    Some bloke called boris said it will all be over by late June so no need to cancel the olympics. Fortunately the rest of world isn’t listening.
    The rest of the world are thinking similar and have not postponed anything beyond mid June either eg F1 Canadian GP still going ahead in late June and many Democratic primaries still due have shifted to June
  • eadric said:

    rpjs said:

    First of all, Happy Birthday, Pb.com!

    Secondly, catching up on the overnight thread, I see that there is still a bit of confusion on how exactly we Germans are cheating and fiddling the numbers, so I'd like to take the opportunity and try to sort it out for you.

    Dedicated Lexiteers have explained for many decades how the Fourth Reich is a neo-liberal, hyper-capitalist paradise where the corporate vultures are allowed, and even encouraged, to exploit the 'workers'.

    Meanwhile, properly patriotic Brexiteers have explained for many decades how the Fourth Reich is a culturally marxist, hyper-trotskyite abomination where good, honest, buccaneering businesspeople suffer so immensely under the yoke of the socialist workers' paradise.

    While simpler minds may still argue which opinion is the correct one, those more capable of holistic thinking will long have recognised that both these sets of perfectly valid assessments are completely accurate at the exact same time.

    So, the one racing certainty we can safely take away from the above deliberations is that contemporary Germany is, in fact, a paradise. Of one sort or another. As close to heaven on earth as you can ever possibly get.

    Great country. Greatest country in the world.
    Amazing, fantastic, tremendous.
    And this undeniable fact may then go a long way in explaining why the Hun is somewhat reluctant to shed this mortal coil.

    So, once again, this time in German:
    "Herzlichen Glückwunsch, Pb.com!"

    This might be the single best thing I’ve ever read on PB.
    It’s very good. And if Matthias genuinely is German, his command of English is astonishing

    Keep posting, Matthias!
    Anglish, as I already reminded.

    And thanks both to you and rpjs for the kind words.
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,216
    eadric said:

    DavidL said:

    Stunningly success supermarket raid by my better half today. Toilet rolls, kitchen rolls, paracetamol, bread, even some pasta. Some things low in stock but most not out. Have we seen the worst of the panic buying?

    She also taught the locals about social distancing and they fell into line!

    Us fancy Londoners fleeing the plague can be useful, as well as a burden.
    What else did you bring with you, and who do you expect to treat you if you fall ill?
  • EndillionEndillion Posts: 4,976

    in

    isam said:

    TGOHF666 said:

    Monday though - lets see next weekend.

    Looks like the govt is putting pressure on shops and sit in restaurants to close.
    I wonder if the crowds we saw yesterday were folks having a last hurrah before locking themselves down. I hope so. the next sunny weekend day will tell us. or even weekday with so many on furlough.

    sunny here in leeds. I have the joy of seeing asda car park from my window. looks less than half as busy as pre-Covid.
    I’d say so. Yesterday was the first nice day for ages, it was Mother’s Day and at the weekend. We’ve had a telling off from the PM and media, and I’d say things will calm down now, social distancing wise.
    Easter weekend will be an interesting one.
    indeed. almost 3 weeks away. should we have a good idea if current measures are working by then?
    April sees Easter, Passover and Ramadan. Let's hope HMG is talking to religious leaders about praying from home.
    It's already done (mostly) - see here, for example:

    https://www.facebook.com/sadiqforlondon/videos/644825769585531/?__tn__=,d,P-R&eid=ARBpUEymsDE22tGxfVvK3Hv-L3j95mv296CuovIEoxKvUGd0oBBJasv6gb87h3-LuusN1kyOiZl1qi1y
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,607
    edited March 2020
    eadric said:

    kamski said:

    eadric said:

    Endillion said:

    eadric said:

    Endillion said:

    eadric said:

    kamski said:

    eadric said:

    kamski said:

    eadric said:

    What are the political ramifications of a global Depression? There are so many the mind blanks at the glare.

    Germany is handling Coronavirus better than most, but they are now anticipating a brutal contraction of 10-20% GDP in a year

    It could be worse, therefore, in America and China - and France, Britain, Italy.

    The last Depression led to Nazism and a world war.

    I’m going to have a cup of tea.

    Glad to see you've moved on from "25% of you are going to die!" to there's going to be a global depression.

    Keep drinking the tea, it seems to be making you a lot more chipper.
    You’re the dribbling idiot who actually said this virus was useful, as it was a good warning for when the REALLY bad virus came.

    THE REALLY BAD ONE

    When are you expecting the REALLY bad virus? I’d like to prepare, tbh
    Hopefully we will learn the lessons from this pandemic and be better prepared for the next one. This will not be helped by idiots like you screaming that a quarter of people are going to die of this one.

    Of course IF you are right and 25% of the population dies, then a 20% contraction would be a rise in GDP per capita, so it's win-win I suppose.
    But when? When is the REALLY bad virus coming? You Know, the virus which will REALLY be nasty, unlike this one? Do you have a timescale? Because I’d like to get loo roll for the REALLY serious disease, as against this minor sniffle.

    You utter, utter twit.
    This was posted on this site by someone called "eadric" on February 3:

    Yep. Having been either housebound or bedridden for a week I have done a lot of thinking about this

    It is inevitable that one day a virus like this will cross the barrier, and be genuinely fucking terrible and lethal - 30, 40% mortality - rather than the relatively kindly SARS and corona that we have experienced to date.

    What will that do to us? How would we cope?

    I also now realize that health experts and microbiologists and epidemiologists must already be anticipating this, hence their reaction to my possible case, which is a mixture of concern, chaos, denial, and honest but anxious ignorance

    I could be just another man flu. Or Typhoid Mary


    https://politicalbetting.vanillacommunity.com/discussion/comment/2701841#Comment_2701841
    Hahaha!

    Thank you

    LOOK AT THE DATE ON THAT

    FEBRUARY 3

    Jesus. That was a genius call. I felt it coming.
    I thought my post spoke for itself, but apparently it didn't.

    To be clear:
    - you are "guilty" of the same thing you're now "accusing" others of (saying this virus is a wake up call for the much worse one that's surely coming)
    - you described Covid-19 as "kindly", months after the outbreak started and nearly two weeks after Wuhan was placed under quarantine
    You still don’t understand what I was saying. Impressive.

    I say ‘corona’ - common RNA viruses etc. I don’t say covid-19.

    But this is all over your head, so what’s the point.

    The main thing is, by February 3rd I was already sounding the alarm, here on PB. I was already overcoming my Normalcy Bias.

    Sadly, the rest of you thickies carried on droning away about care homes for another six weeks. Indeed some of you told me to shut up.

    Oh dear. Never mind. 3/10

    The main thing for you about this pandemic seems to be to try and prove that you were right, even when you have been caught being dead wrong. You didn't mean COVID-19 by "corona", right pull the other one. In every other post of yours you use "corona" to mean Covid-19.

    eg "I’m inclined to believe it was corona because of that weird symptom of excessive dry coughing fits which can keep you up all night"

    or did you just mean that you thought you had the common cold?
    FEBRUARY THE THIRD

    I should get a special PB medal
    Ahem!

    https://twitter.com/foxinsoxuk/status/1221808614878433280?s=19
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 53,785

    DavidL said:

    Stunningly success supermarket raid by my better half today. Toilet rolls, kitchen rolls, paracetamol, bread, even some pasta. Some things low in stock but most not out. Have we seen the worst of the panic buying?

    Wait until people get their March monthly pay.
    What is this monthly pay thing?
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 27,815

    School news: judging by an email from school we have less than 1% of our normal number of students today. How are other schools doing, if there are any other teachers around?

    We've got about 10%, but that may drop - some of the parents out in the more rural villages are trying to make arrangements to keep them at home rather than travelling every day.

    We do have a lot of parents working in health/social care, but even parents who had an occupation on the list contacted us to say they could make alternative arrangements to reduce pressure on our staffing situation.

    I drove past the other high school in the area on the way in, staff car park was almost full. I wonder if the HT is mandating staff to attend, that's very high risk if so.

    We're staffing on a rota, I'm not due in until later in the week, so will see if attendance starts to fall. We're going day to day at the moment.
    We have been told NOT to come to work (capital letters in the original e-mail) unless we absolutely have to: that applies to all staff, not just teachers.
    Let's hope the remaining teachers remembered to cancel the automatic AWOL emails to parents of kids bunking off.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,859
    Barnesian said:

    Latest data



    Just a few days before the US tops the table?
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 42,093
    HYUFD said:
    Does this mean that Dim Dom is the Clem Attlee here?
  • Fysics_TeacherFysics_Teacher Posts: 6,285

    School news: judging by an email from school we have less than 1% of our normal number of students today. How are other schools doing, if there are any other teachers around?

    We've got about 10%, but that may drop - some of the parents out in the more rural villages are trying to make arrangements to keep them at home rather than travelling every day.

    We do have a lot of parents working in health/social care, but even parents who had an occupation on the list contacted us to say they could make alternative arrangements to reduce pressure on our staffing situation.

    I drove past the other high school in the area on the way in, staff car park was almost full. I wonder if the HT is mandating staff to attend, that's very high risk if so.

    We're staffing on a rota, I'm not due in until later in the week, so will see if attendance starts to fall. We're going day to day at the moment.
    We have been told NOT to come to work (capital letters in the original e-mail) unless we absolutely have to: that applies to all staff, not just teachers.
    Let's hope the remaining teachers remembered to cancel the automatic AWOL emails to parents of kids bunking off.
    :smile:
  • EndillionEndillion Posts: 4,976
    eadric said:

    Endillion said:

    eadric said:

    Endillion said:

    eadric said:

    Endillion said:

    eadric said:

    kamski said:

    eadric said:

    kamski said:

    eadric said:

    What are the political ramifications of a global Depression? There are so many the mind blanks at the glare.

    Germany is handling Coronavirus better than most, but they are now anticipating a brutal contraction of 10-20% GDP in a year

    It could be worse, therefore, in America and China - and France, Britain, Italy.

    The last Depression led to Nazism and a world war.

    I’m going to have a cup of tea.

    Glad to see you've moved on from "25% of you are going to die!" to there's going to be a global depression.

    Keep drinking the tea, it seems to be making you a lot more chipper.
    You’re the dribbling idiot who actually said this virus was useful, as it was a good warning for when the REALLY bad virus came.

    THE REALLY BAD ONE

    When are you expecting the REALLY bad virus? I’d like to prepare, tbh
    Hopefully we will learn the lessons from this pandemic and be better prepared for the next one. This will not be helped by idiots like you screaming that a quarter of people are going to die of this one.

    Of course IF you are right and 25% of the population dies, then a 20% contraction would be a rise in GDP per capita, so it's win-win I suppose.
    But when? When is the REALLY bad virus coming? You Know, the virus which will REALLY be nasty, unlike this one? Do you have a timescale? Because I’d like to get loo roll for the REALLY serious disease, as against this minor sniffle.

    You utter, utter twit.
    This was posted on this site by someone called "eadric" on February 3:

    Yep. Having been either housebound or bedridden for a week I have done a lot of thinking about this

    It is inevitable that one day a virus like this will cross the barrier, and be genuinely fucking terrible and lethal - 30, 40% mortality - rather than the relatively kindly SARS and corona that we have experienced to date.

    What will that do to us? How would we cope?

    I also now realize that health experts and microbiologists and epidemiologists must already be anticipating this, hence their reaction to my possible case, which is a mixture of concern, chaos, denial, and honest but anxious ignorance

    I could be just another man flu. Or Typhoid Mary


    https://politicalbetting.vanillacommunity.com/discussion/comment/2701841#Comment_2701841
    Hahaha!

    Thank you

    LOOK AT THE DATE ON THAT

    FEBRUARY 3

    Jesus. That was a genius call. I felt it coming.
    I thought my post spoke for itself, but apparently it didn't.

    To be clear:
    - you are "guilty" of the same thing you're now "accusing" others of (saying this virus is a wake up call for the much worse one that's surely coming)
    - you described Covid-19 as "kindly", months after the outbreak started and nearly two weeks after Wuhan was placed under quarantine
    You still don’t understand what I was saying. Impressive.

    I say ‘corona’ - common RNA viruses etc. I don’t say covid-19.

    But this is all over your head, so what’s the point.

    The main thing is, by February 3rd I was already sounding the alarm, here on PB. I was already overcoming my Normalcy Bias.

    Sadly, the rest of you thickies carried on droning away about care homes for another six weeks. Indeed some of you told me to shut up.

    Oh dear. Never mind. 3/10

    Wow. Truly impressive dissembling.

    A few things:
    - It wasn't even called Covid-19 till February 11, so your use of that term would have been astounding. I think it's clear you meant the current outbreak, not some arbitrary "other" virus.
    - Your exact words were "a virus like this". Ie - not this virus. Because this virus is "kindly", and not a serious threat.
    - By February 3 it was obvious to everyone (except you, apparently) that this was serious. The WHO declared a global public-health emergency on Jan 30. Trump's first travel ban was announced on Jan 31.

    In short, you were behind, not ahead of, the curve (not that curve). You are now, for reasons best known only to yourself, not only trying to pretend otherwise, but also criticising others for the same thing. Please stop it.

    February the 3rd. I expect a Nobel nomination at least, at the end of this.
    OK then, I'm going back to my previous hypothesis that you're in cahoots with the virus and actively working to enable its replacement of humanity as Earth's #1 apex predator.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 81,947
    Ischgl, a ski resort in Austria's Tyrol province, has been linked with hundreds of cases of coronavirus. Now Tyrol's government has asked state prosecutors to investigate whether a business at the resort failed to tell authorities about an infection at the end of February.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 28,401
    Nigelb said:

    First of all, Happy Birthday, Pb.com!

    Secondly, catching up on the overnight thread, I see that there is still a bit of confusion on how exactly we Germans are cheating and fiddling the numbers, so I'd like to take the opportunity and try to sort it out for you.

    Dedicated Lexiteers have explained for many decades how the Fourth Reich is a neo-liberal, hyper-capitalist paradise where the corporate vultures are allowed, and even encouraged, to exploit the 'workers'.

    Meanwhile, properly patriotic Brexiteers have explained for many decades how the Fourth Reich is a culturally marxist, hyper-trotskyite abomination where good, honest, buccaneering businesspeople suffer so immensely under the yoke of the socialist workers' paradise.

    While simpler minds may still argue which opinion is the correct one, those more capable of holistic thinking will long have recognised that both these sets of perfectly valid assessments are completely accurate at the exact same time.

    So, the one racing certainty we can safely take away from the above deliberations is that contemporary Germany is, in fact, a paradise. Of one sort or another. As close to heaven on earth as you can ever possibly get.

    Great country. Greatest country in the world.
    Amazing, fantastic, tremendous.
    And this undeniable fact may then go a long way in explaining why the Hun is somewhat reluctant to shed this mortal coil.

    So, once again, this time in German:
    "Herzlichen Glückwunsch, Pb.com!"

    I see you're rightly reminding us that Trump is of German descent... :smile:
    How prolific is immigration of Muslims from the Indian subcontinent in Germany? Sadly, it appears 25% of British fatalities are Muslims, and probability would suggest these are largely from the Pakistani and Bangladeshi community. Partly this is due to behaviour (gathering in Mosques), but there may be an element of racial susceptibility too.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,859
    Foxy said:

    eadric said:

    kamski said:

    eadric said:

    Endillion said:

    eadric said:

    Endillion said:

    eadric said:

    kamski said:

    eadric said:

    kamski said:

    eadric said:

    What are the political ramifications of a global Depression? There are so many the mind blanks at the glare.

    Germany is handling Coronavirus better than most, but they are now anticipating a brutal contraction of 10-20% GDP in a year

    It could be worse, therefore, in America and China - and France, Britain, Italy.

    The last Depression led to Nazism and a world war.

    I’m going to have a cup of tea.

    Glad to see you've moved on from "25% of you are going to die!" to there's going to be a global depression.

    Keep drinking the tea, it seems to be making you a lot more chipper.
    You’re the dribbling idiot who actually said this virus was useful, as it was a good warning for when the REALLY bad virus came.

    THE REALLY BAD ONE

    When are you expecting the REALLY bad virus? I’d like to prepare, tbh
    Hopefully we will learn the lessons from this pandemic and be better prepared for the next one. This will not be helped by idiots like you screaming that a quarter of people are going to die of this one.

    Of course IF you are right and 25% of the population dies, then a 20% contraction would be a rise in GDP per capita, so it's win-win I suppose.
    But when? When is the REALLY bad virus coming? You Know, the virus which will REALLY be nasty, unlike this one? Do you have a timescale? Because I’d like to get loo roll for the REALLY serious disease, as against this minor sniffle.

    You utter, utter twit.
    This was posted on this site by someone called "eadric" on February 3:

    Yep. Having been either housebound or bedridden for a week I have done a lot of thinking about this

    It is inevitable that one day a virus like this will cross the barrier, and be genuinely fucking terrible and lethal - 30, 40% mortality - rather than the relatively kindly SARS and corona that we have experienced to date.

    What will that do to us? How would we cope?

    I also now realize that health experts and microbiologists and epidemiologists must already be anticipating this, hence their reaction to my possible case, which is a mixture of concern, chaos, denial, and honest but anxious ignorance

    I could be just another man flu. Or Typhoid Mary


    https://politicalbetting.vanillacommunity.com/discussion/comment/2701841#Comment_2701841
    Hahaha!

    Thank you

    LOOK AT THE DATE ON THAT

    FEBRUARY 3

    Jesus. That was a genius call. I felt it coming.
    I thought my post spoke for itself, but apparently it didn't.

    To be clear:
    - you are "guilty" of the same thing you're now "accusing" others of (saying this virus is a wake up call for the much worse one that's surely coming)
    - you described Covid-19 as "kindly", months after the outbreak started and nearly two weeks after Wuhan was placed under quarantine
    You still don’t understand what I was saying. Impressive.

    I say ‘corona’ - common RNA viruses etc. I don’t say covid-19.

    But this is all over your head, so what’s the point.

    The main thing is, by February 3rd I was already sounding the alarm, here on PB. I was already overcoming my Normalcy Bias.

    Sadly, the rest of you thickies carried on droning away about care homes for another six weeks. Indeed some of you told me to shut up.

    Oh dear. Never mind. 3/10

    The main thing for you about this pandemic seems to be to try and prove that you were right, even when you have been caught being dead wrong. You didn't mean COVID-19 by "corona", right pull the other one. In every other post of yours you use "corona" to mean Covid-19.

    eg "I’m inclined to believe it was corona because of that weird symptom of excessive dry coughing fits which can keep you up all night"

    or did you just mean that you thought you had the common cold?
    FEBRUARY THE THIRD

    I should get a special PB medal
    Ahem!

    https://twitter.com/foxinsoxuk/status/1221808614878433280?s=19
    Unlike him, you’ve been consistent and level headed from the beginning. Which is what really counts. Anyone can predict Armageddon one minute and a minor blip the next.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 81,947

    Nigelb said:

    First of all, Happy Birthday, Pb.com!

    Secondly, catching up on the overnight thread, I see that there is still a bit of confusion on how exactly we Germans are cheating and fiddling the numbers, so I'd like to take the opportunity and try to sort it out for you.

    Dedicated Lexiteers have explained for many decades how the Fourth Reich is a neo-liberal, hyper-capitalist paradise where the corporate vultures are allowed, and even encouraged, to exploit the 'workers'.

    Meanwhile, properly patriotic Brexiteers have explained for many decades how the Fourth Reich is a culturally marxist, hyper-trotskyite abomination where good, honest, buccaneering businesspeople suffer so immensely under the yoke of the socialist workers' paradise.

    While simpler minds may still argue which opinion is the correct one, those more capable of holistic thinking will long have recognised that both these sets of perfectly valid assessments are completely accurate at the exact same time.

    So, the one racing certainty we can safely take away from the above deliberations is that contemporary Germany is, in fact, a paradise. Of one sort or another. As close to heaven on earth as you can ever possibly get.

    Great country. Greatest country in the world.
    Amazing, fantastic, tremendous.
    And this undeniable fact may then go a long way in explaining why the Hun is somewhat reluctant to shed this mortal coil.

    So, once again, this time in German:
    "Herzlichen Glückwunsch, Pb.com!"

    I see you're rightly reminding us that Trump is of German descent... :smile:
    How prolific is immigration of Muslims from the Indian subcontinent in Germany? Sadly, it appears 25% of British fatalities are Muslims, and probability would suggest these are largely from the Pakistani and Bangladeshi community. Partly this is due to behaviour (gathering in Mosques), but there may be an element of racial susceptibility too.
    Where are you getting this data from?
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,859

    Nigelb said:

    First of all, Happy Birthday, Pb.com!

    Secondly, catching up on the overnight thread, I see that there is still a bit of confusion on how exactly we Germans are cheating and fiddling the numbers, so I'd like to take the opportunity and try to sort it out for you.

    Dedicated Lexiteers have explained for many decades how the Fourth Reich is a neo-liberal, hyper-capitalist paradise where the corporate vultures are allowed, and even encouraged, to exploit the 'workers'.

    Meanwhile, properly patriotic Brexiteers have explained for many decades how the Fourth Reich is a culturally marxist, hyper-trotskyite abomination where good, honest, buccaneering businesspeople suffer so immensely under the yoke of the socialist workers' paradise.

    While simpler minds may still argue which opinion is the correct one, those more capable of holistic thinking will long have recognised that both these sets of perfectly valid assessments are completely accurate at the exact same time.

    So, the one racing certainty we can safely take away from the above deliberations is that contemporary Germany is, in fact, a paradise. Of one sort or another. As close to heaven on earth as you can ever possibly get.

    Great country. Greatest country in the world.
    Amazing, fantastic, tremendous.
    And this undeniable fact may then go a long way in explaining why the Hun is somewhat reluctant to shed this mortal coil.

    So, once again, this time in German:
    "Herzlichen Glückwunsch, Pb.com!"

    I see you're rightly reminding us that Trump is of German descent... :smile:
    How prolific is immigration of Muslims from the Indian subcontinent in Germany? Sadly, it appears 25% of British fatalities are Muslims, and probability would suggest these are largely from the Pakistani and Bangladeshi community. Partly this is due to behaviour (gathering in Mosques), but there may be an element of racial susceptibility too.
    If you are going to toss stuff like this around, you need a citation.
  • kamskikamski Posts: 5,189
    Hospitals in NRW are expecting to be past the peak by June, but without much certainty. Even if right I expect restrictions on travel and gatherings to continue for quite a bit longer.

    The big question is when schools will reopen. And of course the really big question is when we can book a summer holiday, expecting my wife's hospital to cancel all holidays for a while but she actually needs one already. A medal would be nice, but what about a nice cash bonus and extra paid holidays?
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,859
    Endillion said:

    eadric said:

    Endillion said:

    eadric said:

    Endillion said:

    eadric said:

    Endillion said:

    eadric said:

    kamski said:

    eadric said:

    kamski said:

    eadric said:

    What are the political ramifications of a global Depression? There are so many the mind blanks at the glare.

    Germany is handling Coronavirus better than most, but they are now anticipating a brutal contraction of 10-20% GDP in a year

    It could be worse, therefore, in America and China - and France, Britain, Italy.

    The last Depression led to Nazism and a world war.

    I’m going to have a cup of tea.

    Glad to see you've moved on from "25% of you are going to die!" to there's going to be a global depression.

    Keep drinking the tea, it seems to be making you a lot more chipper.
    You’re the dribbling idiot who actually said this virus was useful, as it was a good warning for when the REALLY bad virus came.

    THE REALLY BAD ONE

    When are you expecting the REALLY bad virus? I’d like to prepare, tbh
    Hopefully we will learn the lessons from this pandemic and be better prepared for the next one. This will not be helped by idiots like you screaming that a quarter of people are going to die of this one.

    Of course IF you are right and 25% of the population dies, then a 20% contraction would be a rise in GDP per capita, so it's win-win I suppose.
    But when? When is the REALLY bad virus coming? You Know, the virus which will REALLY be nasty, unlike this one? Do you have a timescale? Because I’d like to get loo roll for the REALLY serious disease, as against this minor sniffle.

    You utter, utter twit.
    This was posted on this site by someone called "eadric" on February 3:

    Yep. Having been either housebound or bedridden for a week I have done a lot of thinking about this

    It is inevitable that one day a virus like this will cross the barrier, and be genuinely fucking terrible and lethal - 30, 40% mortality - rather than the relatively kindly SARS and corona that we have experienced to date.

    What will that do to us? How would we cope?

    I also now realize that health experts and microbiologists and epidemiologists must already be anticipating this, hence their reaction to my possible case, which is a mixture of concern, chaos, denial, and honest but anxious ignorance

    I could be just another man flu. Or Typhoid Mary


    https://politicalbetting.vanillacommunity.com/discussion/comment/2701841#Comment_2701841
    Hahaha!

    Thank you

    LOOK AT THE DATE ON THAT

    FEBRUARY 3

    Jesus. That was a genius call. I felt it coming.
    I thought my post spoke for itself, but apparently it didn't.

    To be clear:
    - you are "guilty" of the same thing you're now "accusing" others of (saying this virus is a wake up call for the much worse one that's surely coming)
    - you described Covid-19 as "kindly", months after the outbreak started and nearly two weeks after Wuhan was placed under quarantine
    You still don’t understand what I was saying. Impressive.

    I say ‘corona’ - common RNA viruses etc. I don’t say covid-19.

    But this is all over your head, so what’s the point.

    The main thing is, by February 3rd I was already sounding the alarm, here on PB. I was already overcoming my Normalcy Bias.

    Sadly, the rest of you thickies carried on droning away about care homes for another six weeks. Indeed some of you told me to shut up.

    Oh dear. Never mind. 3/10

    Wow. Truly impressive dissembling.

    A few things:
    - It wasn't even called Covid-19 till February 11, so your use of that term would have been astounding. I think it's clear you meant the current outbreak, not some arbitrary "other" virus.
    - Your exact words were "a virus like this". Ie - not this virus. Because this virus is "kindly", and not a serious threat.
    - By February 3 it was obvious to everyone (except you, apparently) that this was serious. The WHO declared a global public-health emergency on Jan 30. Trump's first travel ban was announced on Jan 31.

    In short, you were behind, not ahead of, the curve (not that curve). You are now, for reasons best known only to yourself, not only trying to pretend otherwise, but also criticising others for the same thing. Please stop it.

    February the 3rd. I expect a Nobel nomination at least, at the end of this.
    OK then, I'm going back to my previous hypothesis that you're in cahoots with the virus and actively working to enable its replacement of humanity as Earth's #1 apex predator.
    The better hypothesis is that he simply makes stuff up. He’s so good at it, he should see if he can make a living from it.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 27,815

    eadric said:

    rpjs said:

    First of all, Happy Birthday, Pb.com!

    Secondly, catching up on the overnight thread, I see that there is still a bit of confusion on how exactly we Germans are cheating and fiddling the numbers, so I'd like to take the opportunity and try to sort it out for you.

    Dedicated Lexiteers have explained for many decades how the Fourth Reich is a neo-liberal, hyper-capitalist paradise where the corporate vultures are allowed, and even encouraged, to exploit the 'workers'.

    Meanwhile, properly patriotic Brexiteers have explained for many decades how the Fourth Reich is a culturally marxist, hyper-trotskyite abomination where good, honest, buccaneering businesspeople suffer so immensely under the yoke of the socialist workers' paradise.

    While simpler minds may still argue which opinion is the correct one, those more capable of holistic thinking will long have recognised that both these sets of perfectly valid assessments are completely accurate at the exact same time.

    So, the one racing certainty we can safely take away from the above deliberations is that contemporary Germany is, in fact, a paradise. Of one sort or another. As close to heaven on earth as you can ever possibly get.

    Great country. Greatest country in the world.
    Amazing, fantastic, tremendous.
    And this undeniable fact may then go a long way in explaining why the Hun is somewhat reluctant to shed this mortal coil.

    So, once again, this time in German:
    "Herzlichen Glückwunsch, Pb.com!"

    This might be the single best thing I’ve ever read on PB.
    It’s very good. And if Matthias genuinely is German, his command of English is astonishing

    Keep posting, Matthias!
    There used to be a trope in novels where someone was described as having to be foreign because no British person had that good a command of the language...
    I know some foreign Dr Who fans who have trouble with the current lady Doctor owing to her unclear diction.
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 12,496
    HYUFD said:

    in

    isam said:

    TGOHF666 said:

    Monday though - lets see next weekend.

    Looks like the govt is putting pressure on shops and sit in restaurants to close.
    I wonder if the crowds we saw yesterday were folks having a last hurrah before locking themselves down. I hope so. the next sunny weekend day will tell us. or even weekday with so many on furlough.

    sunny here in leeds. I have the joy of seeing asda car park from my window. looks less than half as busy as pre-Covid.
    I’d say so. Yesterday was the first nice day for ages, it was Mother’s Day and at the weekend. We’ve had a telling off from the PM and media, and I’d say things will calm down now, social distancing wise.
    Easter weekend will be an interesting one.
    indeed. almost 3 weeks away. should we have a good idea if current measures are working by then?
    April sees Easter, Passover and Ramadan. Let's hope HMG is talking to religious leaders about praying from home.
    All C of E services now livestreamed with just priests in attendance with no public worship
    Perhaps you mean that religious leaders should be talking to HMG about praying from home. Can you imagine "I'm from the government and I am here to teach you religious leaders how to pray from home".........

  • Nigelb said:

    First of all, Happy Birthday, Pb.com!

    Secondly, catching up on the overnight thread, I see that there is still a bit of confusion on how exactly we Germans are cheating and fiddling the numbers, so I'd like to take the opportunity and try to sort it out for you.

    Dedicated Lexiteers have explained for many decades how the Fourth Reich is a neo-liberal, hyper-capitalist paradise where the corporate vultures are allowed, and even encouraged, to exploit the 'workers'.

    Meanwhile, properly patriotic Brexiteers have explained for many decades how the Fourth Reich is a culturally marxist, hyper-trotskyite abomination where good, honest, buccaneering businesspeople suffer so immensely under the yoke of the socialist workers' paradise.

    While simpler minds may still argue which opinion is the correct one, those more capable of holistic thinking will long have recognised that both these sets of perfectly valid assessments are completely accurate at the exact same time.

    So, the one racing certainty we can safely take away from the above deliberations is that contemporary Germany is, in fact, a paradise. Of one sort or another. As close to heaven on earth as you can ever possibly get.

    Great country. Greatest country in the world.
    Amazing, fantastic, tremendous.
    And this undeniable fact may then go a long way in explaining why the Hun is somewhat reluctant to shed this mortal coil.

    So, once again, this time in German:
    "Herzlichen Glückwunsch, Pb.com!"

    I see you're rightly reminding us that Trump is of German descent... :smile:
    How prolific is immigration of Muslims from the Indian subcontinent in Germany? Sadly, it appears 25% of British fatalities are Muslims, and probability would suggest these are largely from the Pakistani and Bangladeshi community. Partly this is due to behaviour (gathering in Mosques), but there may be an element of racial susceptibility too.
    Also multi-generational households. That's a factor in Italian mortality rates, too.
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118
    edited March 2020
    Crikey my mate who lives in Spain just sent me a couple of vids of the lockdown. Spooky

    Said his missus has just popped out and he hopes she gets nicked! 🤣
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,216
    eadric said:

    eadric said:

    DavidL said:

    Stunningly success supermarket raid by my better half today. Toilet rolls, kitchen rolls, paracetamol, bread, even some pasta. Some things low in stock but most not out. Have we seen the worst of the panic buying?

    She also taught the locals about social distancing and they fell into line!

    Us fancy Londoners fleeing the plague can be useful, as well as a burden.
    What else did you bring with you, and who do you expect to treat you if you fall ill?
    Er, the NHS
    The Labour run Welsh NHS?

    You’ve clearly thought this through....
  • Fysics_TeacherFysics_Teacher Posts: 6,285

    Nigelb said:

    First of all, Happy Birthday, Pb.com!

    Secondly, catching up on the overnight thread, I see that there is still a bit of confusion on how exactly we Germans are cheating and fiddling the numbers, so I'd like to take the opportunity and try to sort it out for you.

    Dedicated Lexiteers have explained for many decades how the Fourth Reich is a neo-liberal, hyper-capitalist paradise where the corporate vultures are allowed, and even encouraged, to exploit the 'workers'.

    Meanwhile, properly patriotic Brexiteers have explained for many decades how the Fourth Reich is a culturally marxist, hyper-trotskyite abomination where good, honest, buccaneering businesspeople suffer so immensely under the yoke of the socialist workers' paradise.

    While simpler minds may still argue which opinion is the correct one, those more capable of holistic thinking will long have recognised that both these sets of perfectly valid assessments are completely accurate at the exact same time.

    So, the one racing certainty we can safely take away from the above deliberations is that contemporary Germany is, in fact, a paradise. Of one sort or another. As close to heaven on earth as you can ever possibly get.

    Great country. Greatest country in the world.
    Amazing, fantastic, tremendous.
    And this undeniable fact may then go a long way in explaining why the Hun is somewhat reluctant to shed this mortal coil.

    So, once again, this time in German:
    "Herzlichen Glückwunsch, Pb.com!"

    I see you're rightly reminding us that Trump is of German descent... :smile:
    How prolific is immigration of Muslims from the Indian subcontinent in Germany? Sadly, it appears 25% of British fatalities are Muslims, and probability would suggest these are largely from the Pakistani and Bangladeshi community. Partly this is due to behaviour (gathering in Mosques), but there may be an element of racial susceptibility too.
    I suspect it is more likely to be a cultural thing (many men from that community will shake each others’ hands on meeting) or, more likely, just down to the fact that they are over represented in London where a high proportion of the known cases are.
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