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I find the gap here qute extraordinary because it is no way replicated in the UK. That Republicans are that much less concerned suggests that Trump’s controversial apporach is being followed by many of his backers.
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To be blunt.
https://twitter.com/JamesHorncastle/status/1237861682417774592
I'm glad we're getting knocked out of the Champions League, don't want to get the Covid-19.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-51843128
I am surprised he got any customers in Yorkshire at that price!
They will universally revile that disgrace of a President.
BBC News and Sky have been very poor and polluted with pointless Joe Public VoxPops.
What a shitshow.
https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/s08s3tnmu3/Internal_Coronavirus_200302.pdf
Boris didn't look too perky in the HoC either but apparently is refusing to take a test.
Didn't realise Raab is saying he's all clear after being tested.
So, Codogno, the town of 15000 where the Italy outbreak originated, had its first day today of no new cases.
In the province, Lodi, we have had the 5th consecutive day of sub 10% increments, the 40% compound increase over those 5 days has taken the province's infection rate to around 0.45%.
This is why I cannot get my head around the idea of a 70% infection rate, it simply does not chime with what we are seeing, place-by-place, nor with how previous pandemics have scaled with time. So, if 70% is being bandied around, I'm really not seeing why? OK, 70% is possible and has been seen in flus and plagues, I get that, but this Coronavirus does not seem to be behaving like that kind of beastie, even if you allow that future pandemic waves will be bigger.
Equally, the cries of China must be lying, Iran must be lying are tiresome, bandied about with numbers that are so far out of whack with anything we have seen elsewhere as to be fantastical. OK, Iran could very well be underreporting, their public health response could be so continuingly poor that the numbers are multiples of what we are seeing in Europe. But the lurid made up stuff is just someone pulling a number out of the air like some Tiddler the Storytelling Pandemic Fish?
It is reasonable to ask why not 70%. I don't know. Could it be co-immunity from other strains - might explain kids' immunities, given they tend to be snot factories at the best of times, and in environments of large scale and rotating close mingling. Could it simply be the slower time to onward infection (5 days vs 1.5 for flu) meaning health measures can better keep apace with the somewhat gentler exponent. But it seems, from the evidence, that 70% really is not where we are heading on any sensible reading.
OK, it could be 70% over 10-20 years if this becomes nativised. But there will be a lot of tuning of health care responses, a lot of medical development, a lot of mutation of the virus in the meantime.
It's not just flu if you get it, the deadliness is greater, the chance of needing intensive care is greater - this ICU need appears to be the very crux of the challenge - but the spread - that is clearly less, and it can be used to peg back the whole public health challenge.onto, yes, a scale akin to a really bad flu season, if we do this well.
"A cabinet minister is self-isolating while awaiting the results of a coronavirus test.
The minister, who the BBC is not naming, was tested on Thursday after coming into contact with health minister Nadine Dorries at a recent Downing Street reception".
So who was absent from the front bench today for the budget?
The government is more interested in balancing out a range of objectives - staying in control of messaging, repeating basic education until some of it starts to stick, not playing trump cards too early, trying to prevent public panic or crashing the economy, all while trying to limit the spread of the virus.
HMG's advisers are feeding HMG their best analysis of the (uncertain and contested) evidence so that HMG can best pursue HMG's objectives. But how much does that help me as an individual? Hancock may only be being fed a highly simplified summary of the expert assessment of the evidence, and a sensible communication strategy would seek to avoid too much hedging and nuance because the public are less likely to understand or pay attention to such a mixed message. So government statements might not represent the exact state of the science, but that's arguably how it should be. Moreover, if there's going to be a general social lockdown, they won't want all the details leaked, so statements in the run-up to one are likely to be at least partially disingenuous.
Does HMG possess top-quality expert advice on how individuals, particularly in high-risk groups, can reduce our risks? You bet. Clearly some protective actions are possible. What's the relative importance of disinfecting door handles, avoiding trips to the shops, avoiding public transport, avoiding the office, avoiding healthcare facilities, can loose food be contaminated by supermarket workers etc? Their eggheads will presumably have done a thorough analysis by now of what the science says about "cocooning". Are they going to share it with us? Only when it suits HMG's objectives to do so. In the meantime, those of us who want to reduce our risks or the risks to our loved ones are compelled to look elsewhere.
It doesn't require irrational cognitive dissonance to believe simultaneously that HMG and their advisers are taking a best-efforts, evidence-guided approach to their goals, yet also that us plebs shouldn't take on faith 100% of the words emanating from their mouths (particularly looking at you, Hancock) and that sensible precautions (especially for those in high-risk groups) may go some way beyond the extent of the current official advice.
Lots of people meet lots of people.
You would hope that all VVIP are being tested regularly.
Maybe eadric should donate some of his.
It would be both tragic and ironic if COBRA needed to be quarantined itself tommorow.
Will anybody notice?
However I'm unconvinced that governments are well-co ordinated enough yet.
Keep calm and carry on is just the worst brain-worm you can possibly have in this situation. Burn it from your collective minds you utter morons and do things you would never contemplate doing.
I guess we’ll just have to live with winning the Premier League this season.
Newsnight: tomorrow the virus advice changes to delay stage
We've been told for 6 weeks that the NHS is extremely well prepared. But when you talk to frontline doctors they just flatly contradict that and say it is quite the opposite.
Black is white, up is down.
We are going to reap a whirlwind and no amount of pushing money around on the nation's financial accounts is going to stop that.
But we really, really don't want to allow the virus into our house. I'm thinking I have to pay her the full whack to just stay away. For however long it takes. Is that being a) sensible b) paranoid?
Besides when we are all locked down soon, you will have plenty of time to clean your own home.
Stay safe Lord JohnO
For once, the US is following our trends instead of the other way about.
Reuters reports that the prime minister’s spokesman has said such a step is expected to be taken.
Moving to delay would mean social distancing measures could be brought in, such as restricting public gatherings, and more widespread advice to stay at home.
Thought I'd better check the NHS coronavirus advice. As I haven't been in contact with anyone who has tested positive with the condition nor have I been abroad in the last 2 weeks, they aren't interested. No wonder there are so few cases in the UK!
Do I self isolate to be safe? How are we supposed to know if we have it? And can everyone take time off work on the basis that they 'might' have it? As it happens I'm on leave for 10 days anyway.