I have to say I'm with B-job on today's Autumn Statement, can't see it really making a big dent in the polls.... more a holding motion until hopefully even better numbers in 2014.
Mind you Ed Balls has tried his best to help the Blues.. we shall see
Osborne who has only managed to reduce the deficit by 7 billion in 3 years wants us to believe that he`s going to reduce it by 111 billion in the next 5.
If only pigs an fly...
And when did Labour reduce it ?
Didn`t Labour run a surplus between 1998 and 2001?
On this issue, they are prize idiots, to put it mildly.
And doing it at many times the cost of coal or gas. Supporters of wind power are prize idiots to put it mildly.
Surely the trick is to have as diverse an energy base as we can rather than the endless "my dad is bigger than your dad stuff" on each type of energy. Nuclear, coal, tidal, wind, they all have their place I would assume?
On this issue, they are prize idiots, to put it mildly.
That is, on what seems to be about the windiest day for 50 years in the parts of the country where the wind farms are. Perhaps we could have a survey on 25 December to gauge public consumption of roast turkey on an average weekday.
I assume most Scottish windfarms have been shut down today because the optimum speed is about 30-40 mph and it's been a lot windier than that, which is obviously very unusual.
Osborne who has only managed to reduce the deficit by 7 billion in 3 years wants us to believe that he`s going to reduce it by 111 billion in the next 5.
£7bn over 2 years as you well know - 118, 115, 111
Osborne who has only managed to reduce the deficit by 7 billion in 3 years wants us to believe that he`s going to reduce it by 111 billion in the next 5.
If only pigs an fly...
And when did Labour reduce it ?
Labour ran a surplus early in their term IIRC. And Ozzy will borrow more in five years than Labour did in 13.
More's to the point, they have been in power nearly four years so this "whatabout Labour?" stuff is growing a bit boring.
Osborne who has only managed to reduce the deficit by 7 billion in 3 years wants us to believe that he`s going to reduce it by 111 billion in the next 5.
If only pigs an fly...
And when did Labour reduce it ?
Didn`t Labour run a surplus between 1998 and 2001?
Yes, they followed Conservative policies as part of their election manifesto. Then they started to have their own ideas so between 2001 and 2010 they spent faster than Viv Richardson.
On this issue, they are prize idiots, to put it mildly.
And doing it at many times the cost of coal or gas. Supporters of wind power are prize idiots to put it mildly.
Surely the trick is to have as diverse an energy base as we can rather than the endless "my dad is bigger than your dad stuff" on each type of energy. Nuclear, coal, tidal, wind, they all have their place I would assume?
Absolutely. But not at the cost of making our energy hugely expensive. Personally I would rather see far more investment and research into improving solar PV as that seems to me a very sensible way to move forward - particularly the transparent versions for windows. The wind power economics as currently configured and promoted simply don't make sense.
Osborne who has only managed to reduce the deficit by 7 billion in 3 years wants us to believe that he`s going to reduce it by 111 billion in the next 5.
If only pigs an fly...
And when did Labour reduce it ?
Labour ran a surplus early in their term IIRC. And Ozzy will borrow more in five years than Labour did in 13.
More's to the point, they have been in power nearly four years so this "whatabout Labour?" stuff is growing a bit boring.
Yes, Labour ran a surplus when they were following Tory spending plans, what happened when they stopped following Tory spending plans?
Ozzy, IIRC borrowed more in his first month, than the first seven years of the last Labour government, that's what happens when you inherit one of the largest deficits in the world.
Fortunately no Labour supporter goes on about Thatcher's legacy, twenty years after she left office.
Osborne who has only managed to reduce the deficit by 7 billion in 3 years wants us to believe that he`s going to reduce it by 111 billion in the next 5.
If only pigs an fly...
And when did Labour reduce it ?
Didn`t Labour run a surplus between 1998 and 2001?
Only because of the hard work Ken Clarke and the pre-97 Tories did, and because of the 3G licences windfall.
@RachelReevesMP: OBR today: people on Universal Credit in 2016-17 down from 6.1m expected in March to 2.9m #AS2013 #InDeepShambles http://t.co/RwF7yY86W9
Sheesh - Rachel Reeves , yet another PPE who has never done a day's work. WTF would she know about anything ? Gobshite.
Osborne who has only managed to reduce the deficit by 7 billion in 3 years wants us to believe that he`s going to reduce it by 111 billion in the next 5.
If only pigs an fly...
And when did Labour reduce it ?
Didn`t Labour run a surplus between 1998 and 2001?
Yes, they followed Conservative policies as part of their election manifesto. Then they started to have their own ideas so between 2001 and 2010 they spent faster than Viv Richardson.
As if the Conservatives always ran a surplus.Have a look at the large deficit Thatcher and Major ran after more than 10 years of Conservative rule.
Osborne who has only managed to reduce the deficit by 7 billion in 3 years wants us to believe that he`s going to reduce it by 111 billion in the next 5.
If only pigs an fly...
And when did Labour reduce it ?
Didn`t Labour run a surplus between 1998 and 2001?
Yes, they followed Conservative policies as part of their election manifesto. Then they started to have their own ideas so between 2001 and 2010 they spent faster than Viv Richardson.
@RachelReevesMP: OBR today: people on Universal Credit in 2016-17 down from 6.1m expected in March to 2.9m #AS2013 #InDeepShambles http://t.co/RwF7yY86W9
Sheesh - Rachel Reeves , yet another PPE who has never done a day's work. WTF would she know about anything ? Gobshite.
Actually you're being harsh on Rachel Reeves.
Between 2006 and July 2009, she worked as a business planner and analyst for Halifax Bank of Scotland.
Do you know what happened to HBOS during that period?
Osborne who has only managed to reduce the deficit by 7 billion in 3 years wants us to believe that he`s going to reduce it by 111 billion in the next 5.
If only pigs an fly...
And when did Labour reduce it ?
Didn`t Labour run a surplus between 1998 and 2001?
Yes, they followed Conservative policies as part of their election manifesto. Then they started to have their own ideas so between 2001 and 2010 they spent faster than Viv Richardson.
As if the Conservatives always ran a surplus.Have a look at the large deficit Thatcher and Major ran after more than 10 years of Conservative rule.
Hahahahahahah
since when has labour EVER given a toss about a deficit except when it was in opposition ?
Congratulations to George Osborne for finally producing an effective Autumn Statement. Not only is the economy forecast to be in surplus by 2018/19, but unemployment is forecast to have fallen to about 5-6%. He also sensibly added local government to the list of protected departments from his latest round of cuts he announced today!
Osborne who has only managed to reduce the deficit by 7 billion in 3 years wants us to believe that he`s going to reduce it by 111 billion in the next 5.
£7bn over 2 years as you well know - 118, 115, 111
Osborne who has only managed to reduce the deficit by 7 billion in 3 years wants us to believe that he`s going to reduce it by 111 billion in the next 5.
If only pigs an fly...
And when did Labour reduce it ?
Didn`t Labour run a surplus between 1998 and 2001?
Yes, they followed Conservative policies as part of their election manifesto. Then they started to have their own ideas so between 2001 and 2010 they spent faster than Viv Richardson.
As if the Conservatives always ran a surplus.Have a look at the large deficit Thatcher and Major ran after more than 10 years of Conservative rule.
@RachelReevesMP: OBR today: people on Universal Credit in 2016-17 down from 6.1m expected in March to 2.9m #AS2013 #InDeepShambles http://t.co/RwF7yY86W9
Sheesh - Rachel Reeves , yet another PPE who has never done a day's work. WTF would she know about anything ? Gobshite.
I don't think there's any MP who wouldn't know more about what's going on in IDS' department or party than IDS. How did he happen?
Arf arf arf
Rachel Reeves - a woman who worked for the BOE when it lost the plot, who advised the Halifax as they went bust.
Just about every Tory totem you love to spout about and she's YOURS.
Dogshit on the shoe of life . Sack her. Make her do some work. Gobshite waste of space.
@RachelReevesMP: OBR today: people on Universal Credit in 2016-17 down from 6.1m expected in March to 2.9m #AS2013 #InDeepShambles http://t.co/RwF7yY86W9
Sheesh - Rachel Reeves , yet another PPE who has never done a day's work. WTF would she know about anything ? Gobshite.
I have to my shame, been reading Damien McBride's book "Power Trip" (shame because I regret paying him a single penny) I would take everything he says with a truckload of salt, but interestingly he says that much of Ed Balls apparent belligerence comes from a sense of insecurity. That seems right. He should be insecure. He's a reasonably smart man, who projected himself as some sort of genius. He isn't. He peaked in the first decade of this century. His stock will continue to decline.
On this issue, they are prize idiots, to put it mildly.
That is, on what seems to be about the windiest day for 50 years in the parts of the country where the wind farms are. Perhaps we could have a survey on 25 December to gauge public consumption of roast turkey on an average weekday.
I assume most Scottish windfarms have been shut down today because the optimum speed is about 30-40 mph and it's been a lot windier than that, which is obviously very unusual.
Yeah, so what's wrong with that ? Nobody suggested that 100% of electricity should come from wind turbines.
The good news is that 18% of the world's electricity would come from harnessing wind power by 2050 as opposed to 2.6% now. But countries like Portugal , Denmark are closed to achieving 30% already.
Luckily, even the UK is not following the luddites. UK will meet 15% of electricity needs from wind by 2020.
@RachelReevesMP: OBR today: people on Universal Credit in 2016-17 down from 6.1m expected in March to 2.9m #AS2013 #InDeepShambles http://t.co/RwF7yY86W9
Sheesh - Rachel Reeves , yet another PPE who has never done a day's work. WTF would she know about anything ? Gobshite.
Bercow always moans about the "thousands of letters" (2.5 according to FOI) he gets complaining at the behaviour in the commons and how bad it looks to observers.
I would pay to watch George Osborne doing the "I was right dance"
Osborne who has only managed to reduce the deficit by 7 billion in 3 years wants us to believe that he`s going to reduce it by 111 billion in the next 5.
If only pigs an fly...
And when did Labour reduce it ?
Didn`t Labour run a surplus between 1998 and 2001?
Yes, they followed Conservative policies as part of their election manifesto. Then they started to have their own ideas so between 2001 and 2010 they spent faster than Viv Richardson.
As if the Conservatives always ran a surplus.Have a look at the large deficit Thatcher and Major ran after more than 10 years of Conservative rule.
@RachelReevesMP: OBR today: people on Universal Credit in 2016-17 down from 6.1m expected in March to 2.9m #AS2013 #InDeepShambles http://t.co/RwF7yY86W9
Sheesh - Rachel Reeves , yet another PPE who has never done a day's work. WTF would she know about anything ? Gobshite.
She looks OK
ROFL yeah after 16 pints and given the choice of her or John Prescott you would. But it would be a close call.
Osborne who has only managed to reduce the deficit by 7 billion in 3 years wants us to believe that he`s going to reduce it by 111 billion in the next 5.
£7bn over 2 years as you well know - 118, 115, 111
9 billion over 3 years then.Same difference.
No the deficit has been reduced by £7bn over 2 years.
On this issue, they are prize idiots, to put it mildly.
That is, on what seems to be about the windiest day for 50 years in the parts of the country where the wind farms are. Perhaps we could have a survey on 25 December to gauge public consumption of roast turkey on an average weekday.
I assume most Scottish windfarms have been shut down today because the optimum speed is about 30-40 mph and it's been a lot windier than that, which is obviously very unusual.
Yeah, so what's wrong with that ? Nobody suggested that 100% of electricity should come from wind turbines.
The good news is that 18% of the world's electricity would come from harnessing wind power by 2050 as opposed to 2.6% now. But countries like Portugal , Denmark are closed to achieving 30% already.
Luckily, even the UK is not following the luddites. UK will meet 15% of electricity needs from wind by 2020.
@RachelReevesMP: OBR today: people on Universal Credit in 2016-17 down from 6.1m expected in March to 2.9m #AS2013 #InDeepShambles http://t.co/RwF7yY86W9
Sheesh - Rachel Reeves , yet another PPE who has never done a day's work. WTF would she know about anything ? Gobshite.
"Surprising poll from @YouGov (pre-Autumn Statement) coming later tonight - check back just before 10pm for details..."
Obviously suggesting a big boost for the Tories. So tomorrow when it swings away from the Tories we can blame Osborne's Autumn statement?
Rogerissimo, please don't bore us with trivia from the land of politics, regale us with what's new in Adland or how your 70s DJ pals are getting on with the Met.
On this issue, they are prize idiots, to put it mildly.
That is, on what seems to be about the windiest day for 50 years in the parts of the country where the wind farms are. Perhaps we could have a survey on 25 December to gauge public consumption of roast turkey on an average weekday.
I assume most Scottish windfarms have been shut down today because the optimum speed is about 30-40 mph and it's been a lot windier than that, which is obviously very unusual.
Yeah, so what's wrong with that ? Nobody suggested that 100% of electricity should come from wind turbines.
The good news is that 18% of the world's electricity would come from harnessing wind power by 2050 as opposed to 2.6% now. But countries like Portugal , Denmark are closed to achieving 30% already.
Luckily, even the UK is not following the luddites. UK will meet 15% of electricity needs from wind by 2020.
Osborne who has only managed to reduce the deficit by 7 billion in 3 years wants us to believe that he`s going to reduce it by 111 billion in the next 5.
£7bn over 2 years as you well know - 118, 115, 111
9 billion over 3 years then.Same difference.
No the deficit has been reduced by £7bn over 2 years.
The year before the 118 was approx £140bn so:
140, 118, 115, 111
So it's down approx £29bn over 3 years.
You are right.After the big spending cuts,the expected tax receipts failed to materialise leading to plateauing of the deficit.
On this issue, they are prize idiots, to put it mildly.
That is, on what seems to be about the windiest day for 50 years in the parts of the country where the wind farms are. Perhaps we could have a survey on 25 December to gauge public consumption of roast turkey on an average weekday.
I assume most Scottish windfarms have been shut down today because the optimum speed is about 30-40 mph and it's been a lot windier than that, which is obviously very unusual.
They need to be shut down when it's very windy or very cold.
On this issue, they are prize idiots, to put it mildly.
That is, on what seems to be about the windiest day for 50 years in the parts of the country where the wind farms are. Perhaps we could have a survey on 25 December to gauge public consumption of roast turkey on an average weekday.
I assume most Scottish windfarms have been shut down today because the optimum speed is about 30-40 mph and it's been a lot windier than that, which is obviously very unusual.
They need to be shut down when it's very windy or very cold.
What could possibly go wrong.
At the moment UK wind farms are generating enough electricity to power Denmark.
I don't know about you, but I'm quite impressed by that.
"Osborne’s peroration is worth quoting in full – it just kept coming, a relentlessly personal attack.
"“They can’t talk about their record because they had the biggest recession ever.
They can’t talk about the deficit because they’ve got no plan to deal with it.
He can’t talk about infrastructure and his much vaunted plan for a cross-party consensus because he was the person who tried to break the consensus on the biggest project of all.
He can’t talk about housing because there were 420,000 fewer affordable homes at the end of the Labour government.
He can’t talk about business rates because they went up 71 per cent under Labour.
He can’t talk about support for business because he wants to put taxes up on business.
He can’t ask about standing up to the powerful because this is the week they caved in to the trade unions.
He can’t ask about jobs because he wants more jobs taxes.
And he can’t ask about banking and financial services because the person they hired to advise them was the Reverend Flowers.”
And Balls’ only response was to point and go “Ooooo!” as if to suggest Osborne and Cameron had taken cocaine themselves.
It was far from a complete response to a massive reputational attack.
Can Labour go into an election with a liability like this? Osborne must be hoping they can."
On this issue, they are prize idiots, to put it mildly.
That is, on what seems to be about the windiest day for 50 years in the parts of the country where the wind farms are. Perhaps we could have a survey on 25 December to gauge public consumption of roast turkey on an average weekday.
I assume most Scottish windfarms have been shut down today because the optimum speed is about 30-40 mph and it's been a lot windier than that, which is obviously very unusual.
Yeah, so what's wrong with that ? Nobody suggested that 100% of electricity should come from wind turbines.
The good news is that 18% of the world's electricity would come from harnessing wind power by 2050 as opposed to 2.6% now. But countries like Portugal , Denmark are closed to achieving 30% already.
Luckily, even the UK is not following the luddites. UK will meet 15% of electricity needs from wind by 2020.
On this issue, they are prize idiots, to put it mildly.
That is, on what seems to be about the windiest day for 50 years in the parts of the country where the wind farms are. Perhaps we could have a survey on 25 December to gauge public consumption of roast turkey on an average weekday.
I assume most Scottish windfarms have been shut down today because the optimum speed is about 30-40 mph and it's been a lot windier than that, which is obviously very unusual.
They need to be shut down when it's very windy or very cold.
What could possibly go wrong.
I saw GE's wind turbine business about two years ago, and they told me that - when fitted with the 'CWE' package - their wind turbines worked at temperatures as low as minus 40.
Now, I could be wrong, but I don't think we get many days below minus 40 in this country,
On this issue, they are prize idiots, to put it mildly.
That is, on what seems to be about the windiest day for 50 years in the parts of the country where the wind farms are. Perhaps we could have a survey on 25 December to gauge public consumption of roast turkey on an average weekday.
I assume most Scottish windfarms have been shut down today because the optimum speed is about 30-40 mph and it's been a lot windier than that, which is obviously very unusual.
They need to be shut down when it's very windy or very cold.
What could possibly go wrong.
At the moment UK wind farms are generating enough electricity to power Denmark.
I don't know about you, but I'm quite impressed by that.
What could possibly go wrong with a form of electricity generation that needs to be switched off when it's too cold?
On this issue, they are prize idiots, to put it mildly.
That is, on what seems to be about the windiest day for 50 years in the parts of the country where the wind farms are. Perhaps we could have a survey on 25 December to gauge public consumption of roast turkey on an average weekday.
I assume most Scottish windfarms have been shut down today because the optimum speed is about 30-40 mph and it's been a lot windier than that, which is obviously very unusual.
They need to be shut down when it's very windy or very cold.
What could possibly go wrong.
Like, for example, when the radioactive rods are exposed as in Fukushima. A whole 20 mile radius out of bounds for 50 years. Let's go nuclear then.
On this issue, they are prize idiots, to put it mildly.
That is, on what seems to be about the windiest day for 50 years in the parts of the country where the wind farms are. Perhaps we could have a survey on 25 December to gauge public consumption of roast turkey on an average weekday.
I assume most Scottish windfarms have been shut down today because the optimum speed is about 30-40 mph and it's been a lot windier than that, which is obviously very unusual.
They need to be shut down when it's very windy or very cold.
What could possibly go wrong.
At the moment UK wind farms are generating enough electricity to power Denmark.
I don't know about you, but I'm quite impressed by that.
There is nothing impressive about it at all. Gas has been doing far more than that for decades. What matters is how much that power generation costs. This is by no means 'free' energy either now or in the future. It is economic lunacy.
On this issue, they are prize idiots, to put it mildly.
That is, on what seems to be about the windiest day for 50 years in the parts of the country where the wind farms are. Perhaps we could have a survey on 25 December to gauge public consumption of roast turkey on an average weekday.
I assume most Scottish windfarms have been shut down today because the optimum speed is about 30-40 mph and it's been a lot windier than that, which is obviously very unusual.
They need to be shut down when it's very windy or very cold.
What could possibly go wrong.
I saw GE's wind turbine business about two years ago, and they told me that - when fitted with the 'CWE' package - their wind turbines worked at temperatures as low as minus 40.
Now, I could be wrong, but I don't think we get many days below minus 40 in this country,
Personally I would rather see far more investment and research into improving solar PV as that seems to me a very sensible way to move forward - particularly the transparent versions for windows.
Some of the thin-film solar technologies are incredibly interesting - potentially super low cost, and - for the ones on glass substrates - because they actually convert some of the light into electricity, they actually reduce the need for air-conditioning in summer. Very interesting.
Of course, the way I look at it, there is only one type of power that we use, and that's solar. Gas, coal and the like are just stored solar, using nature designed batteries.
On this issue, they are prize idiots, to put it mildly.
That is, on what seems to be about the windiest day for 50 years in the parts of the country where the wind farms are. Perhaps we could have a survey on 25 December to gauge public consumption of roast turkey on an average weekday.
I assume most Scottish windfarms have been shut down today because the optimum speed is about 30-40 mph and it's been a lot windier than that, which is obviously very unusual.
They need to be shut down when it's very windy or very cold.
What could possibly go wrong.
At the moment UK wind farms are generating enough electricity to power Denmark.
I don't know about you, but I'm quite impressed by that.
There is nothing impressive about it at all. Gas has been doing far more than that for decades. What matters is how much that power generation costs. This is by no means 'free' energy either now or in the future. It is economic lunacy.
So, whenever wind production picks up, why is gas powered units shut down first ?
Personally I would rather see far more investment and research into improving solar PV as that seems to me a very sensible way to move forward - particularly the transparent versions for windows.
Some of the thin-film solar technologies are incredibly interesting - potentially super low cost, and - for the ones on glass substrates - because they actually convert some of the light into electricity, they actually reduce the need for air-conditioning in summer. Very interesting.
Of course, the way I look at it, there is only one type of power that we use, and that's solar. Gas, coal and the like are just stored solar, using nature designed batteries.
Yep I would leap at the chance to support that kind of technology. Imagine every one of our glass skyscrapers (or even just the new ones) using that form of generation.
On this issue, they are prize idiots, to put it mildly.
That is, on what seems to be about the windiest day for 50 years in the parts of the country where the wind farms are. Perhaps we could have a survey on 25 December to gauge public consumption of roast turkey on an average weekday.
I assume most Scottish windfarms have been shut down today because the optimum speed is about 30-40 mph and it's been a lot windier than that, which is obviously very unusual.
They need to be shut down when it's very windy or very cold.
What could possibly go wrong.
I saw GE's wind turbine business about two years ago, and they told me that - when fitted with the 'CWE' package - their wind turbines worked at temperatures as low as minus 40.
Now, I could be wrong, but I don't think we get many days below minus 40 in this country,
So if all the windmills were GE and they all had these CWE packages and GE had judged it correctly that would contradict the point.
On this issue, they are prize idiots, to put it mildly.
That is, on what seems to be about the windiest day for 50 years in the parts of the country where the wind farms are. Perhaps we could have a survey on 25 December to gauge public consumption of roast turkey on an average weekday.
I assume most Scottish windfarms have been shut down today because the optimum speed is about 30-40 mph and it's been a lot windier than that, which is obviously very unusual.
They need to be shut down when it's very windy or very cold.
What could possibly go wrong.
Like, for example, when the radioactive rods are exposed as in Fukushima. A whole 20 mile radius out of bounds for 50 years. Let's go nuclear then.
On this issue, they are prize idiots, to put it mildly.
That is, on what seems to be about the windiest day for 50 years in the parts of the country where the wind farms are. Perhaps we could have a survey on 25 December to gauge public consumption of roast turkey on an average weekday.
I assume most Scottish windfarms have been shut down today because the optimum speed is about 30-40 mph and it's been a lot windier than that, which is obviously very unusual.
They need to be shut down when it's very windy or very cold.
What could possibly go wrong.
I saw GE's wind turbine business about two years ago, and they told me that - when fitted with the 'CWE' package - their wind turbines worked at temperatures as low as minus 40.
Now, I could be wrong, but I don't think we get many days below minus 40 in this country,
Is that -40 Celsius or Fahrenheit...
Same temperature! -40 in either scale (strange but true).
On this issue, they are prize idiots, to put it mildly.
That is, on what seems to be about the windiest day for 50 years in the parts of the country where the wind farms are. Perhaps we could have a survey on 25 December to gauge public consumption of roast turkey on an average weekday.
I assume most Scottish windfarms have been shut down today because the optimum speed is about 30-40 mph and it's been a lot windier than that, which is obviously very unusual.
They need to be shut down when it's very windy or very cold.
What could possibly go wrong.
At the moment UK wind farms are generating enough electricity to power Denmark.
I don't know about you, but I'm quite impressed by that.
There is nothing impressive about it at all. Gas has been doing far more than that for decades. What matters is how much that power generation costs. This is by no means 'free' energy either now or in the future. It is economic lunacy.
So, whenever wind production picks up, why is gas powered units shut down first ?
It`s funny how the Tory media used to go on about Ed Miliband and now that he`s destroyed their plans with a single policy,they now think Ed Balls is the weak link.
The two big weak links are in their own party and Labour will go after them nearer the election!
The biggest problem with wind being an ever increasing part of the energy mix is when we do have very cold weather in the winter, (when we use the most energy) its when we have prolonged spells of high pressure and so little to no wind. Think of the last few winters, weeks of high pressure and very cold temperatures.
I have to my shame, been reading Damien McBride's book "Power Trip" (shame because I regret paying him a single penny) I would take everything he says with a truckload of salt, but interestingly he says that much of Ed Balls apparent belligerence comes from a sense of insecurity. That seems right. He should be insecure. He's a reasonably smart man, who projected himself as some sort of genius. He isn't. He peaked in the first decade of this century. His stock will continue to decline.
On this issue, they are prize idiots, to put it mildly.
That is, on what seems to be about the windiest day for 50 years in the parts of the country where the wind farms are. Perhaps we could have a survey on 25 December to gauge public consumption of roast turkey on an average weekday.
I assume most Scottish windfarms have been shut down today because the optimum speed is about 30-40 mph and it's been a lot windier than that, which is obviously very unusual.
They need to be shut down when it's very windy or very cold.
What could possibly go wrong.
At the moment UK wind farms are generating enough electricity to power Denmark.
I don't know about you, but I'm quite impressed by that.
There is nothing impressive about it at all. Gas has been doing far more than that for decades. What matters is how much that power generation costs. This is by no means 'free' energy either now or in the future. It is economic lunacy.
So, whenever wind production picks up, why is gas powered units shut down first ?
Because they are the quickest and simplest to stop and restart again. If we have excess capacity because of the wind generation then the gas stations are the first to be stopped. Still doesn't change the fact that we are then using more expensive energy generation instead of cheaper generation because we have designed a stupid system that needs that to be done.
As it stands the more wind generation contributing to the overall supply we have at any given time the more expensive our electricity becomes for the end user.
On this issue, they are prize idiots, to put it mildly.
That is, on what seems to be about the windiest day for 50 years in the parts of the country where the wind farms are. Perhaps we could have a survey on 25 December to gauge public consumption of roast turkey on an average weekday.
I assume most Scottish windfarms have been shut down today because the optimum speed is about 30-40 mph and it's been a lot windier than that, which is obviously very unusual.
They need to be shut down when it's very windy or very cold.
What could possibly go wrong.
At the moment UK wind farms are generating enough electricity to power Denmark.
I don't know about you, but I'm quite impressed by that.
There is nothing impressive about it at all. Gas has been doing far more than that for decades. What matters is how much that power generation costs. This is by no means 'free' energy either now or in the future. It is economic lunacy.
So, whenever wind production picks up, why is gas powered units shut down first ?
The U.K. plans to almost triple the amount of wind capacity by 2020 as it seeks to meet a target to get 15 percent of power demand from renewable energy sources. Wind and solar have no fuel costs, generally making them cheaper than coal or gas.
“As well as the higher wind power, demand is down by about 2 gigawatts from yesterday as well so it has given the chance for less efficient gas-burn facilities to drop output,” Gary Hornby, energy markets analyst at Inenco Group Ltd., said by e-mail today.
Are you seriously suggesting that Ed Balls is performing well and is an asset to the party?
Nothing would demonstrate a clean break with the Brown economic policy better than showing Balls the door.
The key is timing. It needs to be far enough in advance of the next election that the new guy/gal can master their brief, but close enough to it that Balls has to keep quiet because of the proximity to the election.
I suspect that ALP is right, and that we will have an interesting spring budget that will flatfoot the less than nimble Ed Balls, and he will be dumped in a Summer reshuffle.
It`s funny how the Tory media used to go on about Ed Miliband and now that he`s destroyed their plans with a single policy,they now think Ed Balls is the weak link.
The two big weak links are in their own party and Labour will go after them nearer the election!
It`s funny how the Tory media used to go on about Ed Miliband and now that he`s destroyed their plans with a single policy,they now think Ed Balls is the weak link.
The two big weak links are in their own party and Labour will go after them nearer the election!
Oh get real. they're both crap.
The fun is bruiser Balls has lost his Mojo and wimpy Wallace could now take him out if he had some gumption. But he hasn't.
On this issue, they are prize idiots, to put it mildly.
That is, on what seems to be about the windiest day for 50 years in the parts of the country where the wind farms are. Perhaps we could have a survey on 25 December to gauge public consumption of roast turkey on an average weekday.
I assume most Scottish windfarms have been shut down today because the optimum speed is about 30-40 mph and it's been a lot windier than that, which is obviously very unusual.
They need to be shut down when it's very windy or very cold.
What could possibly go wrong.
At the moment UK wind farms are generating enough electricity to power Denmark.
I don't know about you, but I'm quite impressed by that.
There is nothing impressive about it at all. Gas has been doing far more than that for decades. What matters is how much that power generation costs. This is by no means 'free' energy either now or in the future. It is economic lunacy.
So, whenever wind production picks up, why is gas powered units shut down first ?
The U.K. plans to almost triple the amount of wind capacity by 2020 as it seeks to meet a target to get 15 percent of power demand from renewable energy sources. Wind and solar have no fuel costs, generally making them cheaper than coal or gas.
“As well as the higher wind power, demand is down by about 2 gigawatts from yesterday as well so it has given the chance for less efficient gas-burn facilities to drop output,” Gary Hornby, energy markets analyst at Inenco Group Ltd., said by e-mail today.
1. Wind capacity needs a backup for when there's no wind. Gas is the preferred option as the *duplicated* backup system for when there's no wind cos it can be turned on and off quick.
2. As wind *requires* a backup system the cost of that backup ought to be factored into the cost for wind but it isn't.
3. Check the careful wording - less efficient than wind or the least efficient of the currently operating gas-burner facilities?
Are you seriously suggesting that Ed Balls is performing well and is an asset to the party?
Nothing would demonstrate a clean break with the Brown economic policy better than showing Balls the door.
The key is timing. It needs to be far enough in advance of the next election that the new guy/gal can master their brief, but close enough to it that Balls has to keep quiet because of the proximity to the election.
I suspect that ALP is right, and that we will have an interesting spring budget that will flatfoot the less than nimble Ed Balls, and he will be dumped in a Summer reshuffle.
It`s funny how the Tory media used to go on about Ed Miliband and now that he`s destroyed their plans with a single policy,they now think Ed Balls is the weak link.
The two big weak links are in their own party and Labour will go after them nearer the election!
Balls knows far more about economics than the towel folder and he`ll be a real asset to the party when it matters and he has his fingers around the purse-strings.
He suffers from a stammer and may have been temporarily put off by deliberate Tory/Lib Dem heckling but he`s a smart political operator and his influence will be seen in the party manifesto.
Why do you think the Tories are going after him?
The two Eds are the team that take Labour into 2015.
On this issue, they are prize idiots, to put it mildly.
That is, on what seems to be about the windiest day for 50 years in the parts of the country where the wind farms are. Perhaps we could have a survey on 25 December to gauge public consumption of roast turkey on an average weekday.
I assume most Scottish windfarms have been shut down today because the optimum speed is about 30-40 mph and it's been a lot windier than that, which is obviously very unusual.
They need to be shut down when it's very windy or very cold.
What could possibly go wrong.
I saw GE's wind turbine business about two years ago, and they told me that - when fitted with the 'CWE' package - their wind turbines worked at temperatures as low as minus 40.
Now, I could be wrong, but I don't think we get many days below minus 40 in this country,
So if all the windmills were GE and they all had these CWE packages and GE had judged it correctly that would contradict the point.
Did GE point out how much extra the CWE (cold weather environment?) Package would cost?
Getting rid of Balls would do more harm than good, so Ed won't.
And Mike is wrong, the personality of the shadow chancellor won't change votes. The arguments will. On that score, the Tories are still struggling to catch up with Labour.
Are you seriously suggesting that Ed Balls is performing well and is an asset to the party?
Nothing would demonstrate a clean break with the Brown economic policy better than showing Balls the door.
The key is timing. It needs to be far enough in advance of the next election that the new guy/gal can master their brief, but close enough to it that Balls has to keep quiet because of the proximity to the election.
I suspect that ALP is right, and that we will have an interesting spring budget that will flatfoot the less than nimble Ed Balls, and he will be dumped in a Summer reshuffle.
It`s funny how the Tory media used to go on about Ed Miliband and now that he`s destroyed their plans with a single policy,they now think Ed Balls is the weak link.
The two big weak links are in their own party and Labour will go after them nearer the election!
Balls knows far more about economics than the towel folder and he`ll be a real asset to the party when it matters and he has his fingers around the purse-strings.
He suffers from a stammer and may have been temporarily put off by deliberate Tory/Lib Dem heckling but he`s a smart political operator and his influence will be seen in the party manifesto.
Why do you think the Tories are going after him?
The two Eds are the team that take Labour into 2015.
Balls knows far more about economics than the towel folder
So if he knows so much how come every call he has made has been wrong ?
Getting rid of Balls would do more harm than good, so Ed won't.
And Mike is wrong, the personality of the shadow chancellor won't change votes. The arguments will. On that score, the Tories are still struggling to catch up with Labour.
The personality of the Shadow Chancellor is, in my opinion, an asset. He always comes over in interviews as a touch self deprecating and the way he has mastered his stammer is something very much to be admired. The fact he can play football and look like most other middle aged men doing that (ie unfit and knackered) is also a plus.
I still wouldn't trust him with my daughter's piggy bank but the personality thing is a complete red herring.
Getting rid of Balls would do more harm than good, so Ed won't
And Mike is wrong, the personality of the shadow chancellor won't change votes. The arguments will. On that score, the Tories are still struggling to catch up with Labour.
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arguments ? Which arguments ? Labour have none. Their policy bag is emptier than Prescott.s head.
On this issue, they are prize idiots, to put it mildly.
That is, on what seems to be about the windiest day for 50 years in the parts of the country where the wind farms are. Perhaps we could have a survey on 25 December to gauge public consumption of roast turkey on an average weekday.
I assume most Scottish windfarms have been shut down today because the optimum speed is about 30-40 mph and it's been a lot windier than that, which is obviously very unusual.
They need to be shut down when it's very windy or very cold.
What could possibly go wrong.
I saw GE's wind turbine business about two years ago, and they told me that - when fitted with the 'CWE' package - their wind turbines worked at temperatures as low as minus 40.
Now, I could be wrong, but I don't think we get many days below minus 40 in this country,
So if all the windmills were GE and they all had these CWE packages and GE had judged it correctly that would contradict the point.
Did GE point out how much extra the CWE (cold weather environment?) Package would cost?
If they'd been installed i expect they would have cost a lot - although probably nowhere near as much as they'll cost when their potential customers realize all those windmills aren't going to work when it's very cold. Instant premium.
Getting rid of Balls would do more harm than good, so Ed won't
And Mike is wrong, the personality of the shadow chancellor won't change votes. The arguments will. On that score, the Tories are still struggling to catch up with Labour.
chortle
arguments ? Which arguments ? Labour have none. Their policy bag is emptier than Prescott.s head.
Getting rid of Balls would do more harm than good, so Ed won't
And Mike is wrong, the personality of the shadow chancellor won't change votes. The arguments will. On that score, the Tories are still struggling to catch up with Labour.
chortle
arguments ? Which arguments ? Labour have none. Their policy bag is emptier than Prescott.s head.
Is that why the Tories stole all their policies ahead of the autumn statement?
I am a Lib Dem voter, so it is possible that my party will be supporting a minority Labour govt in 18 months. It would not be credible to do this with Balls as Chancellor, as it would be the antithesis of everything that they have done in this govt.
Balls is a Dead Man Walking, though I do think it possible that he may be a Zombie Chancellor, lurching after hard working families to feed upon.
Are you seriously suggesting that Ed Balls is performing well and is an asset to the party?
Nothing would demonstrate a clean break with the Brown economic policy better than showing Balls the door.
The key is timing. It needs to be far enough in advance of the next election that the new guy/gal can master their brief, but close enough to it that Balls has to keep quiet because of the proximity to the election.
I suspect that ALP is right, and that we will have an interesting spring budget that will flatfoot the less than nimble Ed Balls, and he will be dumped in a Summer reshuffle.
It`s funny how the Tory media used to go on about Ed Miliband and now that he`s destroyed their plans with a single policy,they now think Ed Balls is the weak link.
The two big weak links are in their own party and Labour will go after them nearer the election!
Balls knows far more about economics than the towel folder and he`ll be a real asset to the party when it matters and he has his fingers around the purse-strings.
He suffers from a stammer and may have been temporarily put off by deliberate Tory/Lib Dem heckling but he`s a smart political operator and his influence will be seen in the party manifesto.
Why do you think the Tories are going after him?
The two Eds are the team that take Labour into 2015.
I am a Lib Dem voter, so it is possible that my party will be supporting a minority Labour govt in 18 months. It would not be credible to do this with Balls as Chancellor, as it would be the antithesis of everything that they have done in this govt.
Balls is a Dead Man Walking, though I do think it possible that he may be a Zombie Chancellor, lurching after hard working families to feed upon.
Are you seriously suggesting that Ed Balls is performing well and is an asset to the party?
Nothing would demonstrate a clean break with the Brown economic policy better than showing Balls the door.
The key is timing. It needs to be far enough in advance of the next election that the new guy/gal can master their brief, but close enough to it that Balls has to keep quiet because of the proximity to the election.
I suspect that ALP is right, and that we will have an interesting spring budget that will flatfoot the less than nimble Ed Balls, and he will be dumped in a Summer reshuffle.
It`s funny how the Tory media used to go on about Ed Miliband and now that he`s destroyed their plans with a single policy,they now think Ed Balls is the weak link.
The two big weak links are in their own party and Labour will go after them nearer the election!
Balls knows far more about economics than the towel folder and he`ll be a real asset to the party when it matters and he has his fingers around the purse-strings.
He suffers from a stammer and may have been temporarily put off by deliberate Tory/Lib Dem heckling but he`s a smart political operator and his influence will be seen in the party manifesto.
Why do you think the Tories are going after him?
The two Eds are the team that take Labour into 2015.
Oh codswallop.
Ed Balls is more credible than the flipping leader of your party.
On this issue, they are prize idiots, to put it mildly.
That is, on what seems to be about the windiest day for 50 years in the parts of the country where the wind farms are. Perhaps we could have a survey on 25 December to gauge public consumption of roast turkey on an average weekday.
I assume most Scottish windfarms have been shut down today because the optimum speed is about 30-40 mph and it's been a lot windier than that, which is obviously very unusual.
They need to be shut down when it's very windy or very cold.
What could possibly go wrong.
I saw GE's wind turbine business about two years ago, and they told me that - when fitted with the 'CWE' package - their wind turbines worked at temperatures as low as minus 40.
Now, I could be wrong, but I don't think we get many days below minus 40 in this country,
Is that -40 Celsius or Fahrenheit...
Same temperature! -40 in either scale (strange but true).
Yes, a standard pub quiz question. Glad to see your expensive education hasn't been wasted, Dr Prasannan!
Getting rid of Balls would do more harm than good, so Ed won't
And Mike is wrong, the personality of the shadow chancellor won't change votes. The arguments will. On that score, the Tories are still struggling to catch up with Labour.
chortle
arguments ? Which arguments ? Labour have none. Their policy bag is emptier than Prescott.s head.
The Cost of Living Crisis.
Like it or not, that's the playing field.
Oh really straw grasping.
HMG can put money in voters pockets between now and the GE and will. Then what will Balls do ? HMG will simply steal the iodeas and put the issue to bed. What's Balls' next trick ?
I noticed a few weeks ago when spittle was appearing on Red Ed lips that the media and the PB Hodges went into a frenzy over "Red Ed foaming at the mouth". Gideon does the same at the Autumn statement......anyone hear that pin drop?
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Mind you Ed Balls has tried his best to help the Blues.. we shall see
Surprising poll from @YouGov (pre-Autumn Statement) coming later tonight - check back just before 10pm for details...
More's to the point, they have been in power nearly four years so this "whatabout Labour?" stuff is growing a bit boring.
Yes, they followed Conservative policies as part of their election manifesto. Then they started to have their own ideas so between 2001 and 2010 they spent faster than Viv Richardson.
Ozzy, IIRC borrowed more in his first month, than the first seven years of the last Labour government, that's what happens when you inherit one of the largest deficits in the world.
Fortunately no Labour supporter goes on about Thatcher's legacy, twenty years after she left office.
That's what I thought it might show.
Forced to defend Ed Balls in case Ed M actually decides to sack him
Sheesh - Rachel Reeves , yet another PPE who has never done a day's work. WTF would she know about anything ? Gobshite.
If its a whopping labour lead, there's going to be some payback on here...
Between 2006 and July 2009, she worked as a business planner and analyst for Halifax Bank of Scotland.
Do you know what happened to HBOS during that period?
::Innocent face::
What it is expected to turn out to be ?
Hahahahahahah
since when has labour EVER given a toss about a deficit except when it was in opposition ?
ROFLMBO
IIRC, YouGov's daily poll today, would have finished around 5/6pm this evening....
So I is confused.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBYzjD6OHFM
http://www.ukpublicspending.co.uk/spending_chart_1945_2010UKp_09c1li011lcn_G0t_UK_National_Debt_As_Pct_GDP
Arf arf arf
Rachel Reeves - a woman who worked for the BOE when it lost the plot, who advised the Halifax as they went bust.
Just about every Tory totem you love to spout about and she's YOURS.
Dogshit on the shoe of life . Sack her. Make her do some work. Gobshite waste of space.
I would take everything he says with a truckload of salt, but interestingly he says that much of Ed Balls apparent belligerence comes from a sense of insecurity. That seems right.
He should be insecure. He's a reasonably smart man, who projected himself as some sort of genius. He isn't.
He peaked in the first decade of this century. His stock will continue to decline.
The good news is that 18% of the world's electricity would come from harnessing wind power by 2050 as opposed to 2.6% now. But countries like Portugal , Denmark are closed to achieving 30% already.
Luckily, even the UK is not following the luddites. UK will meet 15% of electricity needs from wind by 2020.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-11-29/u-k-wind-turbines-generate-record-power-as-gas-fed-plants-halt.html
I would pay to watch George Osborne doing the "I was right dance"
http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/datasets-and-tables/data-selector.html?cdid=HF6X&dataset=pusf&table-id=PSF9
ROFL yeah after 16 pints and given the choice of her or John Prescott you would. But it would be a close call.
The year before the 118 was approx £140bn so:
140, 118, 115, 111
So it's down approx £29bn over 3 years.
In 2008 he predicted borrowing over the next 4 years of approx £110 billion
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7282002.stm
in 2009, he revised that to
Public borrowing to increase to £175bn this year
• Borrowing levels to be £173bn, £140bn, £118bn and £97bn in years after
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8011882.stm
"Surprising poll from @YouGov (pre-Autumn Statement) coming later tonight - check back just before 10pm for details..."
Obviously suggesting a big boost for the Tories. So tomorrow when it swings away from the Tories we can blame Osborne's Autumn statement?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxrFITuYmsc
@JohnRentoul: Premature, I know, but *if* EdM moved Ed Balls, who would he make Shadow Chancellor? Chuka Umunna or Chris Leslie, not Alistair Darling.
Britain is more resilient and more prepared to deal with global shocks.
But Labour, LibDems and the Conservatives are against it.
On this issue, they are top prize idiots, to put it mildly.
Richard you really need to try a PPE. this concentration on what works is just so nitpicking.
If only the electorate were as dumbed-down as your average postal-ballot. God forbide 'Bungle' Balls and 'Zippy' Militwunt were to be elected!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpIqZKJ6xCI
"Joan Collins at 80: 'I've only gone to bed with good-looking men'"
What could possibly go wrong.
I don't know about you, but I'm quite impressed by that.
Now, I could be wrong, but I don't think we get many days below minus 40 in this country,
Of course, the way I look at it, there is only one type of power that we use, and that's solar. Gas, coal and the like are just stored solar, using nature designed batteries.
The two big weak links are in their own party and Labour will go after them nearer the election!
As it stands the more wind generation contributing to the overall supply we have at any given time the more expensive our electricity becomes for the end user.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-11-29/u-k-wind-turbines-generate-record-power-as-gas-fed-plants-halt.html
The U.K. plans to almost triple the amount of wind capacity by 2020 as it seeks to meet a target to get 15 percent of power demand from renewable energy sources. Wind and solar have no fuel costs, generally making them cheaper than coal or gas.
“As well as the higher wind power, demand is down by about 2 gigawatts from yesterday as well so it has given the chance for less efficient gas-burn facilities to drop output,” Gary Hornby, energy markets analyst at Inenco Group Ltd., said by e-mail today.
Nothing would demonstrate a clean break with the Brown economic policy better than showing Balls the door.
The key is timing. It needs to be far enough in advance of the next election that the new guy/gal can master their brief, but close enough to it that Balls has to keep quiet because of the proximity to the election.
I suspect that ALP is right, and that we will have an interesting spring budget that will flatfoot the less than nimble Ed Balls, and he will be dumped in a Summer reshuffle.
Oh get real. they're both crap.
The fun is bruiser Balls has lost his Mojo and wimpy Wallace could now take him out if he had some gumption. But he hasn't.
2. As wind *requires* a backup system the cost of that backup ought to be factored into the cost for wind but it isn't.
3. Check the careful wording - less efficient than wind or the least efficient of the currently operating gas-burner facilities?
He suffers from a stammer and may have been temporarily put off by deliberate Tory/Lib Dem heckling but he`s a smart political operator and his influence will be seen in the party manifesto.
Why do you think the Tories are going after him?
The two Eds are the team that take Labour into 2015.
And Mike is wrong, the personality of the shadow chancellor won't change votes. The arguments will. On that score, the Tories are still struggling to catch up with Labour.
So if he knows so much how come every call he has made has been wrong ?
PS why is Miliband a towel folder ?
I still wouldn't trust him with my daughter's piggy bank but the personality thing is a complete red herring.
arguments ? Which arguments ? Labour have none. Their policy bag is emptier than Prescott.s head.
Like it or not, that's the playing field.
Balls is a Dead Man Walking, though I do think it possible that he may be a Zombie Chancellor, lurching after hard working families to feed upon.
Ed Balls is more credible than the flipping leader of your party.
The Lib Dems will do a deal if need be.
Glad to see your expensive education hasn't been wasted, Dr Prasannan!
Oh really straw grasping.
HMG can put money in voters pockets between now and the GE and will. Then what will Balls do ? HMG will simply steal the iodeas and put the issue to bed. What's Balls' next trick ?