Starmer recommits to nationalising everything. Bloody hell.
No wonder Long Bailey is not gaining any traction with the left.
I had almost forgotten that the Never Ending Labour Leadership contest still winds its weary way down to the special conference that will now be cancelled.
This guy was one of the biggest Project Fearmongers against Brexit. Now he wants to dismiss coronavirus as media hype
I think he is wrong; generally the scarier a CV headline, the more boringly authoritative the source turns out to be. There's a shedload of *really* frightening stuff from China and Iran on twitter, but it isn't breaking through to MSM. Indeed, I am struck by the lack of reporting from Our Man On The Spot in Wuhan or Tehran: having that footage either confirmed, or debunked, by a reliable source would clarify things a lot.
Yep. The experts have been the 'doomers' for a while. They look to be right. Italy hitting 100 deaths today is not good.
Deaths per day in Italy (today first):
+28, +27, +11, +12, +8, +4.
As I type this the US confirm their 10th and 11th deaths in WA and CA.
Starmer recommits to nationalising everything. Bloody hell.
No wonder Long Bailey is not gaining any traction with the left.
I had almost forgotten that the Never Ending Labour Leadership contest still winds its weary way down to the special conference that will now be cancelled.
Brillo is giving RLB a light toasting just now.
She's currently claiming that the electorate weren't able to understand their policies.
This guy was one of the biggest Project Fearmongers against Brexit. Now he wants to dismiss coronavirus as media hype
I think he is wrong; generally the scarier a CV headline, the more boringly authoritative the source turns out to be. There's a shedload of *really* frightening stuff from China and Iran on twitter, but it isn't breaking through to MSM. Indeed, I am struck by the lack of reporting from Our Man On The Spot in Wuhan or Tehran: having that footage either confirmed, or debunked, by a reliable source would clarify things a lot.
Who is this Melville fellow?
I reckon his tweet will look spectacularly wrong in a month's time.
This guy was one of the biggest Project Fearmongers against Brexit. Now he wants to dismiss coronavirus as media hype
I think he is wrong; generally the scarier a CV headline, the more boringly authoritative the source turns out to be. There's a shedload of *really* frightening stuff from China and Iran on twitter, but it isn't breaking through to MSM. Indeed, I am struck by the lack of reporting from Our Man On The Spot in Wuhan or Tehran: having that footage either confirmed, or debunked, by a reliable source would clarify things a lot.
Indeed so. In fact I am fairly sure there is a MSM campaign (at least in some parts) to keep everyone calm, by being frugal with the truth.
eg BBC TV news consistently says "yes it is nasty but only 1% die and 80-85% have a very mild attack or no symptoms at all".
This is at best misleading, if not an outright lie. They make no mention of the TEN percent who become dangerously ill (which, as we all know, is the real concern - as they will collapse health systems). And the 1% fatality figure (which they use all the time) is highly dubious. At the moment the WHO's best guess for a mortality rate is 3.4%. A big big difference.
So yes he's wrong on several levels.
It’s not so much whether it’s “only” 1% or 3%. The point is that 1% is actually a much bigger number than it sounds.
The thing NOBODY mentions is what happens if there’s a mutation. Those countries that let the current virus run rampant could end up like looking like visionaries! Read about 1918 flu on Wikipedia. Basically it mutated in Summer and became much more dangerous. There is reference to Sweden being large unaffected because the earlier version and swept through them.
Interesting to know how many posters on here had parents that were interested in politics, watched the news and reacted to it. We are quick to claim young people just are not interested but are the just reflecting their parents?
My parents had a normal interest in politics. My mum is a Conservative of the Christian Democrat type (she disapproves of Boris Johnson). My dad proudly boasted of being a promiscuous floating voter. They talked about politics occasionally. It was not a big part of home life though.
My mum knows I bet on politics, essentially disapproves but occasionally coyly asks me what I think is going to happen about some events. I usually disappoint her with my lack of certainty.
My father was a union man who who hated Labour and the unions AND hated corporations and their profits but voted conservative. Mum was essentially apolitical. But we always had the news on (which in those days was not part of the entertainment division) and always had at least 2 daily newspapers.
My own political awakening started at age 7 with the 6-day war, which was happening less than 100 miles away from us (in Cyprus at the time). My first recollection of a purely British political issue (other than Aden, unavoidable as all my classmates were service brats) was shortly thereafter, with the 1967 sterling devaluation. I do recall my father ranting at the dinner table about this.
I’ve been a bit bemused by the media’s reading of the Super Tuesday results (that said, admittedly my reading has been largely from UK sources who, as we know, try very hard but oftentimes are rather poor at US politics).
The BBC even suggested Bernie had a good night. Well, compared to Bloomberg and Warren I suppose he did, but from the point of view of securing the nomination (what all this is about) it surely cannot be seen as anything other than poor.
Coming off the back of the early states this was his chance to get the nomination sewn up, or at least put enough distance between himself and Biden that he looked like the frontrunner. He has ended the night behind in the delegate count and losing Texas. But California! The media cry. Yes, but although delegate heavy it is one state and he didn’t scythe through it enough to give himself the substantial lead in delegates he needed.
As of today, Joe Biden is the presumptive nominee. It could change, but he has a pretty good lead in delegates, the state voting patterns look good for him, and he’s got the Democratic establishment and ex candidates all coming out for him.
It’s Bidens to lose. And a week ago that would have sounded bizarre. That is why Bernie lost Super Tuesday.
I think you'll have to look closely at the potential for huge disenfranchisement from the younger generations regarding the presidential election. Although candidates dropping out and endorsing one another is par for the course in nominations. This campaign against Sanders looks coordinated and could be a huge wedge against sucking it up and voting Democrat no matter what.
The Sanders support is hugely vocal and very involved and will tie supporters of all demographics strongly to this one candidate. If Biden comes out of a contested convention after Bernie is close or equal on delegates there will be a lot of anger and strong memories of 2016. A perfect Trump wedge issue
'They cheated you again!' 'Cheating Joe and his son' 'Corrupt Dems at it again' etc etc
We should not be looking to governments to control events, it really does come down to individual behavior. Wash your hands, avoid crowds, buy sensibly to ensure adequate provisions without mass stock piling. Use a hand gel if you can get it. Some things can’t be avoided like the tube but then if you show any signs of flu stay at home. Don’t take the piss thinking it’s a good excuse for a long weekend, think twice about going to A&E with trivial issues etc etc etc Many could suffer, not from the virus but from the senseless utilization of health services which could have been avoided.
We should not be looking to governments to control events, it really does come down to individual behavior. Wash your hands, avoid crowds, buy sensibly to ensure adequate provisions without mass stock piling. Use a hand gel if you can get it. Some things can’t be avoided like the tube but then if you show any signs of flu stay at home. Don’t take the piss thinking it’s a good excuse for a long weekend, think twice about going to A&E with trivial issues etc etc etc Many could suffer, not from the virus but from the senseless utilization of health services which could have been avoided.
The tube can be avoided! I have managed it for 25 years
We should not be looking to governments to control events, it really does come down to individual behavior. Wash your hands, avoid crowds, buy sensibly to ensure adequate provisions without mass stock piling. Use a hand gel if you can get it. Some things can’t be avoided like the tube but then if you show any signs of flu stay at home. Don’t take the piss thinking it’s a good excuse for a long weekend, think twice about going to A&E with trivial issues etc etc etc Many could suffer, not from the virus but from the senseless utilization of health services which could have been avoided.
Remember when we worried about a No-Deal Brexit, comparable to That Time It Snowed but a little longer? Good times!
I've said on here several times in the last year or so that if Brexit was the biggest problem we had to deal with in the medium-term that we would be a fortunate country.
I sincerely wish that I had not been proven right so soon.
We should be doing that here. Now. Why are we still hosting France in a massive rugby match, with tens of thousands of visitors?!?!
Nuts.
You’ll be excited to learn that it’s a real possibility that a number of major airports across northern Italy will, in the next 48 hours, announce that they are closing for an undefined period.
We should be doing that here. Now. Why are we still hosting France in a massive rugby match, with tens of thousands of visitors?!?!
Nuts.
As the expert said this morning, pushing people into pubs and front rooms to watch it on TV is more risky. In an open air stadium the worst is that a carrier infects the people sitting either side. So it’s cancel, or hold, not hold with no audience.
I suppose it's out of the question to test people as they come in?
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Deaths per day in Italy (today first):
+28, +27, +11, +12, +8, +4.
As I type this the US confirm their 10th and 11th deaths in WA and CA.
She's currently claiming that the electorate weren't able to understand their policies.
I reckon his tweet will look spectacularly wrong in a month's time.
The thing NOBODY mentions is what happens if there’s a mutation. Those countries that let the current virus run rampant could end up like looking like visionaries! Read about 1918 flu on Wikipedia. Basically it mutated in Summer and became much more dangerous. There is reference to Sweden being large unaffected because the earlier version and swept through them.
If I were willing to risk another 5 grand (I’m not) I’d sell her for another £100 of profit.
There may be others on here with deep pockets who will though.
My own political awakening started at age 7 with the 6-day war, which was happening less than 100 miles away from us (in Cyprus at the time). My first recollection of a purely British political issue (other than Aden, unavoidable as all my classmates were service brats) was shortly thereafter, with the 1967 sterling devaluation. I do recall my father ranting at the dinner table about this.
The BBC even suggested Bernie had a good night. Well, compared to Bloomberg and Warren I suppose he did, but from the point of view of securing the nomination (what all this is about) it surely cannot be seen as anything other than poor.
Coming off the back of the early states this was his chance to get the nomination sewn up, or at least put enough distance between himself and Biden that he looked like the frontrunner. He has ended the night behind in the delegate count and losing Texas. But California! The media cry. Yes, but although delegate heavy it is one state and he didn’t scythe through it enough to give himself the substantial lead in delegates he needed.
As of today, Joe Biden is the presumptive nominee. It could change, but he has a pretty good lead in delegates, the state voting patterns look good for him, and he’s got the Democratic establishment and ex candidates all coming out for him.
It’s Bidens to lose. And a week ago that would have sounded bizarre. That is why Bernie lost Super Tuesday.
I was at a business meeting today where only one person (my client) was shaking hands.
It’s closing in. I just hope my usual strong constitution works in my favour.
The Sanders support is hugely vocal and very involved and will tie supporters of all demographics strongly to this one candidate. If Biden comes out of a contested convention after Bernie is close or equal on delegates there will be a lot of anger and strong memories of 2016. A perfect Trump wedge issue
'They cheated you again!' 'Cheating Joe and his son' 'Corrupt Dems at it again' etc etc
Increases in cases just today and new totals from some non headline making countries
Switzerland +32 (90)
Norway +23 (56)
Sweden +22 (52)
Holland +15 (38)
Really taking off across Europe now
I sincerely wish that I had not been proven right so soon.
TwitterReddit supports Sanders.And some on here are worried that Biden may be forgetful and a bit rambling.